/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.2021233]

> Capomontone
> 18 year old
> girl
> only draws Lucky Luke slash
> already achieved god mode

Why live?

[Anonymous No.2021236]

>>2021233
They're probably some hyper autist or something.

[Anonymous No.2021245]

>>2021236
This, or they practiced like crazy in every free minute of their responsibility-free teenage life. Now, with a job and all, there's no fucking time to practice. How will I ever catch up to this.
feelsbadman

[Anonymous No.2021256]

>>2021245
You have enough time to browse and post on /ic/ but enough to practice? Nigga please
I know 30 year olds who went professional in less than three years and had families to take care of on top of a job. You won't make it not because you don't have enough time, but because of your attitude.

[Anonymous No.2021260]

>god mode
>this
Are we talking about the same artist here?

[Anonymous No.2021262]

Awesome.

[Anonymous No.2021264]

>>2021233

Girls develop their motor skills at a faster pace than males (it's a fact). So while men are spending their latter years developing their motor skills to be more proficient in laying down strokes, women achieve this MUCH sooner given the same test conditions.

Besides, that's not Godmode. Godmode is reserved for the male artists who had to learn and hone their motor skills, rather than let it come naturally to them.

[Anonymous No.2021272]

>>2021260
that's the thing that bothers me. She's totally capable of doing amazing art, but she chooses not to most of the time because she just does what she wants. That lighthearted fucking attitude, man. She doesn't even try to show her greatness. She mostly does those doodles, and yet she's capable of doing awesome coloring jobs like on that gay ass.

You can't deny that that gay ass is concept art tier.
Give her one more year and she'll be JessiBeans level.

[Anonymous No.2021275]

>>2021264
> Implying all girls are automatically gud
I wish

[Anonymous No.2021283]

When will this epic chromatic aberration meme finally die?

[Anonymous No.2021285]

>>2021283
when people stop confusing phtographs for reality, so never.

[Anonymous No.2021291]

>>2021283
When did the whole fad start?

[Anonymous No.2021292]

>>2021283
When it hits the news that somebody got a seizure and died looking at such pictures.

[Anonymous No.2021311]

>>2021264
Skill is not measured by the handicap you had or had not when you started. According to your logic, the best female soccer player is automatically considered better than the best male soccer player because technically, the woman isn't as strong as the male physically. Nobody cares. In reality, in a match the male player will anihilate the female player. And that's what people care about in the end - Results. Noone cares about your background, handicaps or advantages you might had.

> Godmode is reserved for males
nigga pls.

[Anonymous No.2021312]

>>2021291
started with 3d

or really, in printmaking people have been printing with intentional bad registration for a while.

but in the computer guy drawing world it started with 3d renders where a lens' focus is simulated, chromatic aberration is a lens effect. i guess 3d guys thought it looked cool an abused it, and then 2d guys thought they could abuse it too, to make their stuff look more photographic, or really, more like a 3d render.

[Anonymous No.2021316]

>>2021312
That's dumb. It makes me wonder if they feel a bit of pain when they use the filter or look over their art that already has it.

[Anonymous No.2021317]

>>2021316
I actually find it neat in some cases. Like OP's ass pic. It gives a nice touch if it's not overdone.
Does that make me a hack

[Anonymous No.2021318]

>>2021264
> artists who had to learn and hone their motor skills, rather than let it come naturally to them
That could be applied to "talent" aswell.

Some people learn insanely fast, learning comes naturally to them, while we, simple mortals, need to work twice as hard to get there.

[Anonymous No.2021321]

>>2021311
It matter for the ones with the handicap, it can be an even greater victory for them to compete against someone that had a head start.

[Anonymous No.2021326]

>>2021321
art isn't sport, beyond competence it come down to sensibility not motor skills. at that stage there is no 'better' in the mind of the artist, only the audience.

[Anonymous No.2021328]

>>2021264
Aside from the bullshit,
>Godmode is reserved for the male artists who had to learn and hone their motor skills, rather than let it come naturally to them.
what kind of logic is this?
>Somebody cannot be considered great because they can learn something faster and more efficiently!
And it isn't "naturally" so much as practice and learning as well as if they were male.

[Anonymous No.2021331]

>>2021317
The question is, using it on your own and deciding if the filter looks nice on or off.

[Anonymous No.2021332]

>>2021326
It doesn't make you necessarily a better artist, but gives you more control over what you want to do.

[Anonymous No.2021334]

>>2021321
maybe, but personal victory has no influence on what's actually godmode and what's not.

[Anonymous No.2021336]

>girl
Why is that a problem/something to note about?

Also,
>dat ass
>don't know what Lucky Luke is, check out art and assume there's hot male pin-ups
>oh God why

[Anonymous No.2021340]

>>2021336
Because I'm a girl too and when I was 18 I was being a lazy fucktard. It makes it more personal. It could be me. Kill me now and so on.
Also you don't expect 18 yo girls to be crazy good artists that draw hunky men in bottomless pants. That's what shut-in gay autists normally do. I guess that's why I mentioned it.

[Anonymous No.2021344]

>>2021340
This really should've been obvious but protip: sex doesn't matter.
>Also so you don't expect 18 year-olds to be crazy good artists...
ftfy.

Now quit mirin' dat ass and other artists and focus on your own art instead.

[Anonymous No.2021351]

>girls
>good

Explain the shitload of yaoi artists in japan.

[Anonymous No.2021355]

>>2021344
tublr pls go.
>>2021351
Laurel D. Austin. Your argument is invalid.

[Anonymous No.2021357]

>>2021355
>Laurel D. Austin
das just 1 grill cmon man name like 10......

Please? Female artists make me hard.

[Anonymous No.2021358]

>>2021233
This made me happy.
Godspeed to that beautiful bastard.

>>2021351
Manga in general has low standards. Lot of it is tracing from photos and other manga, and the writer and artist are the same person meaning double the workload.

[Anonymous No.2021364]

Luky Luke? Why? It's 2015

[Anonymous No.2021366]

>>2021357
Karla Ortiz, Helen Chen, Claire Wendling, Claire Hummel, Janaschi, Elsa Chang, Claire Keane, Lisa Keene, Sara Pichelli, a whole bunch of female chinese artists whose names I can't remember. Just look at the ending credits of animated Disney / Dreamworks / Pixar movies and you'll find plenty of great female visdev artists. Also a whole bunch in illustration and the comic industry. Just because there aren't that many who work in video games doesn't mean they don't exist.

[Anonymous No.2021369]

I've never had the sex drive to so obsessively draw porn/erotica. I wonder what they feel like. Must be torture being that horny.

[Anonymous No.2021371]

>>2021369
>learn drawing to draw stuff and fulfill my secret fetish
>3-4 of practice later
>still haven't completed one erotic piece for myself, don't really care anymore

eh

[Anonymous No.2021372]

>>2021357
> JessiBeans
> llllle
> ailah
those three are the shit. Check them out on Deviantart.

Makani and Brianna Garcia are good too, if you're into more cartoony stuff.

[Anonymous No.2021373]

>>2021369
>Must be torture being that horny.
On the contrary, it's pretty awesome.

[Anonymous No.2021374]

>>2021373
when i get horny i try to fuck women instead of drawing, so i guess it's lucky i'm not very highly sexed or i'ld spend all my time chasing tail.

[Anonymous No.2021377]

>>2021374
forgot to say i felt this woman up at saatchi when we were both massively drunk, apparently she's a big deal now. too bad about that faccce

[Anonymous No.2021389]

>>2021377
And my dad works at Nintendo. :^)

[Anonymous No.2021390]

>>2021272
>She's totally capable of doing amazing art, but she chooses not to most of the time because she just does what she wants.
What a bitch, amirite? Someone doing what they want. Such blasphemy.

>>2021369
>implying a sex drive has anything to do with drawing porn/erotica
Are you 12?

[Anonymous No.2021398]

>>2021390
why are you so angry?
I never implied she shouldn't do what she wants. I was praising her.

[Anonymous No.2021406]

>>2021398
I never implied I was angry. If you think a backhanded compliment is praise then I can't argue with you.

[Anonymous No.2021409]

>>2021369
When you're 15 and your sex drive is unlimited hell mode, yes.

[Anonymous No.2021411]

>>2021374
>when i get horny i try to fuck women instead of drawing
For what purpose

[Anonymous No.2021412]

>>2021406
you sure are angry. :^)

[Anonymous No.2021413]

>>2021406
Not that Anon but I thought you sounded angry too. Quit being an ass for no reason mang.
>>2021351
>implying Fujisaki Kou isn't amazing :^)

Also a lot of manga's art is shit, regardless of sex.

[Anonymous No.2021419]

>>2021413
>quit being an ass
Because I flippantly replied to what was a fairly amusing backhanded compliment. Alright then.

>>2021412
Sure am. :^)

[Anonymous No.2021421]

>shitposting general

[Anonymous No.2021428]

>>2021419
Yes, that's what happens when you be passive aggressive for no reason, Anon.

Go do some gesture drawings or something. REALLY FEEL THE FORM

[Anonymous No.2021434]

>>2021428
you're such a dildo

[Anonymous No.2021442]

>>2021428
>for no reason
okay.jpg.tiff.exe

>>2021434
you sure are angry :^)

[Anonymous No.2021444]

>>2021442
>for no reason
because you're upset*

[Anonymous No.2021446]

>>2021444
>implying

[Anonymous No.2021460]

can we get back to the glorious ass pls

[Anonymous No.2021466]

>tfw wasted 7 years

I will probably never get that good.

[Anonymous No.2021484]

>>2021466
Grab your balls and git gud

[Anonymous No.2021486]

>>2021484
Can't get them out of your mothers mouth >:3

Literally burning through anatomy training as we speak, as a straight white male I can appreciate the majesty of those asses though.

[Anonymous No.2021611]

>>2021245
Dood I work full time to pay the bills and I still find the time

Draw everyday. Doesn't matter how long. Work out, eat healthy, draw gud

[Anonymous No.2021636]

>>2021611
I get up at seven and come home at eight. I also have a SO that wants pampering. How the fuck do people find time for anything at all. I already struggle to keep up with the housekeeping, let alone drawing.
wtf

[Anonymous No.2021729]

>>2021636
Its called 9am-5pm jobs anon
What the fuck are you doing

[Anonymous No.2021741]

>>2021264
I want r9k to fucking leave.

[Anonymous No.2021743]

>>2021636
You get home at 8? Do you work more hours than normal people? Or do you have to rely on public transportation or something?

[Anonymous No.2021747]

>>2021636
Hmm for your situation, I recommend just drawing every day. Can be an hour, half hour.... 5 mins... If you don't have 5 mins you can spare, thats a true personal problem. Just get in the act of drawing DAILY. make it a habit. Soon you will want to draw any chance you get, no matter how long. Even if you're with your SO u can still sketch something in a sketchbook, no?

Synopsis: just aim for drawing daily, even if you can only spare 5 minutes. Make a good habit; habits die hard

[Anonymous No.2021772]

>tfw I'm 18

[Anonymous No.2021776]

>>2021772
>tfw 19

[Anonymous No.2021784]

>>2021772
>>2021776
Fuck, you're making me feel old I fucking hate that.

[Anonymous No.2021798]

>>2021264
you're full of shit, just saying

[Anonymous No.2021805]

>>2021776
>tfw 21 and havent drawn anything until I was 20

[Anonymous No.2021824]

That ass is perfect, I just wish the faces weren't so cartoony.

[Anonymous No.2021868]

>>2021351
Shut up, yaoi is awesome

[Anonymous No.2021871]

>>2021805
I started at 22, with shit paying job, 10 hours a day. Is this a contest of who have it harder or are we gonna git gud instead?

[Anonymous No.2021879]

holy shit this thread
bunch of whiners in here

grab your nutsack and draw

[Anonymous No.2021882]

>>2021264
Wooow. Sounds like you just can't accept a girl being better than you.
You sound fucking retarded

[Anonymous No.2021894]

Capomontone made me homophobic.
This art is far from any notion of god or godliness, I can tell you that.

[Anonymous No.2021897]

>tfw 78 years old

Is it too late for me brahs?

[Anonymous No.2021911]

I don't think it's that great, tbh.
Just soft shading and filters to impress plebs.

[Anonymous No.2021918]

>tfw waited until i was almost 26 to start drawing again
>pretty sure i developed carpal tunnel from my NEET days

Hold me bros

[Anonymous No.2021923]

>>2021264

[Anonymous No.2021926]

>>2021897
lol

[Anonymous No.2021936]

>>2021897
Are you Ron Paul? If so, yes, it's over.

[Anonymous No.2021943]

>>2021897

nah bro all you need is passion for art and loomis to git gud

:^)

[Anonymous No.2021950]

>>2021943
Thanks

[Anonymous No.2021956]

Dont worry bros, ya'all just need to accept our lord and savior Vilppu in your hearts and everything's gonna be alright

[Anonymous No.2021968]

>>2021805

>tfw 28
>started drawing at 14 and I'm still shit

[Anonymous No.2021972]

>>2021968

I know that feel bro

I'm 24 but still feel terrible when i see art prodigies popping up born in the late 90's. Its just the fact that, these kids somehow became amazing without loomis or any learning materials.

maybe 26 is the absolute threshold before my brain will retain new knowledge, if i dont make it by then, i give up.

[Anonymous No.2021977]

>>2021264

I love seeing the mental gymnastics people on /ic go through to avoid coming to terms with the fact that other people are just better at art.

[Anonymous No.2021984]

>>2021972
they still studied somehow you have to if you want to make anything look accurate like armor or guns or whatever its not like youre just born with all that knowledge lol

[Anonymous No.2022011]

>>2021972
>that picture is pretty much true

[Anonymous No.2022014]

>>2021972
Stop being a whiny little bitch and deal with it. You have two options, struggle through to achieve what you want most, or give up. They are your only options. Yes their are those who are drawing and painting proficiently at younger years, but they went through their 'difficult years' too, just younger. Remember anon, you can either power through, or quit. But do you want your story to be about the guy who had everything handed to him, never struggled and had an easy boring life, or do you want your story to be about the guy who never gave up, never surrendered, no matter how hard things got?
https://vimeo.com/84022735

[Anonymous No.2022017]

>>2021972
Cryptcrawler started in his late twenties iirc.

[Anonymous No.2022020]

I don't understand how it can be "to late" when it comes to art. Maybe modeling, sports, or other fields that require a young body, but art?

Unless you have horrible arthritis or something, you can pick up a pencil and draw.

[Anonymous No.2022028]

>>2022011
I wonder if I'll be shitposting on 4chan in my 40s. I probably will if it's still around. Fuck.

[Anonymous No.2022030]

>>2021390
Looking at the amount and the way she draws it, I'm very sure it exites her sexually.

[Anonymous No.2022050]

>>2022030
>being this naive

[Anonymous No.2022057]

>>2022014
The second one is also really good.
https://vimeo.com/87448006
Thanks you for showing this to me anon, i'm young and stupid and i needed that perspective on it.

[Anonymous No.2022085]

What really destroys me is when I see these young artists that are insanely good at 17-19 years old but they also have lot of nice friends, epic cute girlfriend and sometimes are even fit as heck (for example : miles johnson but trust me that's not the only one in this situation)

And I am there, almost 27, no friends, no gf, social inept, fat.... Life is shit, but I won't give up. If you are young don't fuck up and work hard guys. you dont want to end up like me.

[Anonymous No.2022093]

>>2022050
What's your opinion: why does she draw the sort of thing she doesn't find it sexually appealing.

[Anonymous No.2022096]

>>2022085
Life isn't shit, life is easy; You suck. Draw more faggot, a year is all you need.

[Anonymous No.2022097]

>>2022096
lmao prove it, post art
1 year is not enough trust me

[Anonymous No.2022103]

I'm planning on going homeless just so that I can get good. If I can get $200 per month ($7/day) for food then that's all I need.

sacrifice bitches

[Anonymous No.2022105]

>>2022097
Hurr Durr 8 hours every day for a year is less than 4 hours every day for two years which in turn is less than one hour every day for eight years

[Anonymous No.2022106]

>>2022085
Life is shit, on that we can agree, but the reasons you listed are not why it is shit.

They are simply trivialities controlled by your own had.

Fat, read the sticky on /fit/
No gf, go out and get one faggot it's not rocket science.

Stop being a fag.

[Anonymous No.2022107]

>>2022103
Darwin award

[Anonymous No.2022111]

>>2022107

It's not like I have a choice anyway.

[Anonymous No.2022116]

>>2022105
dude if it was that easy everyone would be ruan jias

stfu

[Anonymous No.2022120]

>>2022116

that's where talent comes in

[DemiZen !YESueGotH6 No.2022178]

>>2021747
>>2022106
/thread
Even if I'm the same age as her without any fundamental knowledge, doing small things(drawing, being /fit/) as a habit in life can kickstart into interests for progression.

If i find anyone like her in RL and is better than me, I always ask them for any advice or sometimes can help out in projects together.

[Anonymous No.2022186]

>>2021972
>study without Loomis

The only reason they got gud is cause they studied Loomis. Stop being a bitch, ready Loomis and got gud already.

[Anonymous No.2022198]

I have 2-14 months to achieve her level. Going to have to step up my game, I feel so motivated now.

On the topic of beautiful asses, how old is sunibee?

[Anonymous No.2022323]

I can't get over how beautiful that ass is. I just want to touch it.

[Anonymous No.2022469]

>>2021636
>I get up at seven and come home at eight.
You still have 11 hours for sleeping and drawing.

>I also have a SO that wants pampering.
If you are working 12+ hours a day your "SO" needs to get off her/his ass and pamper you. It's clear you're paying the bills.

>How the fuck do people find time for anything at all.
You make time.

>I already struggle to keep up with the housekeeping, let alone drawing.
>wtf
So wait, you are working ~12 hours a day, come home and have to pamper your girl/boyfriend, AND you have to do the housekeeping?

Holy fucking shit you need to drop your girl/boyfriend right now.

[Anonymous No.2022500]

>>2022469
>we're not even married AND he does the housekeeping!

[Anonymous No.2022504]

>>2022085
Im fat too, but Im bringing in the rolls.
Dont need gf.
Just got a job, and buckled down to draw porn for side rolls.

[Anonymous No.2022519]

>>2022198
I know he was underage when he drew for /vp/, I think he's like 20?

[Anonymous No.2022525]

how do you get smooth rendering like the OP?

[Anonymous No.2022911]

>>2022469
My SO works full time too. We're both pretty much fucked when we come home. I need 8 hours of sleep to not die in the morning, which leaves me with three hours. One hour is pretty much consumed by cooking, eating and doing the dishes. Then I'm fucking tired and just want to lie on the couch.
So much work, and we're still poor. That's what you get for wanting a creative job.

>>2021729
>>2021743
public transport in a big city. Also I work overtime to get my shit done. If I wouldn't I would probably lose my job. Everyone works overtime here.

>>2021747
Maybe I could use the time on the train to draw in a sketchbook. That would not help me with coloring, but It's better than not using that time I guess.

>>2022500
I'm the woman.

[Anonymous No.2022916]

time to accept the fact she has put in much more practice into her craft than you and has more discipline than you ever will :-) you mad man?

[Anonymous No.2022920]

>>2021233
aren't these threads basically the Console War threads of /ic/.
Low effort to make, everyone becomes butthurt, and it is really easy to add new fuel in the fire if the threads start dying.

[Anonymous No.2023006]

>>2022085
Listen, Al. You need to get your act together. You got a negative attitude. That's what's stopping you.

[Anonymous No.2023019]

>>2021233
>Capomontone
Lol, i know her and we were da friends for years. I noticed how she draws ONLY lucky Luke stuff...to be honest i found about this character from her drawings.

[Anonymous No.2023051]

>>2023019
Any insight on what's up with her obsession with Lucky Luke?

[Anonymous No.2023053]

>>2022085
>tfw not 27 yet

Thankyou anon, your shittiness has kept me going.
I'll still be 30 by the time I'm good though.

[Anonymous No.2023058]

>>2023019
Wait is lucky luke not known outside of europe? Do you know about asterix, Iznogoud, spirou, marsupilami, gaston lagaffe? Or is this also not as known as i imagine it to be.

[Anonymous No.2023062]

>>2021264
Why do you do this to yourself?

[Anonymous No.2023063]

>>2023058
Burgerland here dunno any of those or lucky luke

I do know about burgers and freedom fries though

[Anonymous No.2023066]

>Just a random person who draws random stuff.
>Loves randomness and weirdos.

she is literally the penguin of d00m xD

captcha: horny

[Anonymous No.2023094]

>>2021264
>Look up source
>Find this
I actually laughed. Even if it is true; men also has advantages: (Source is me being a biology mayor and using non-english sources, try and look up specific sources yourself)

Men have an easier time working systematically, with actions, and objectively, instead woman are more affected by emotions.

Men have lower willpower (if it is not trained), while womans willpower (if it is not trained) is higher (although during during menstruation willpower is basically drained all the time, leading to self-indulgence).

Males also have better spacial orientation on 2d-planes than females.

I could go on and on about gender differences, how woman sometimes are better than males and the other way around.

You want to know what actually matters?
Fucking practicing, sit down, draw, that's it.
That is all you can do to improve. You can't change your gender, history, mental stability, race, and so on.
You can only change your actions.

[Anonymous No.2023099]

>>2023094
I don't think anyone (most people anyway) is saying he's wrong, just that he's stupid for the 'Godmode' thing. ('hurr it doesn't matter b-b-because in the end, men can still be better since they end up having to work harder for the same skills!'...which is retarded.)

And then there's the obsession some of /ic/ has with bringing up sex differences as an excuse for their inferiority or lack of success.

[Anonymous No.2023100]

>>2023058
Canadian here, never heard of Lucky Luke either. Only familiar with Asterix from that list.

I don't think European comics are all too known here like American comics, unlike Tintin and Moomin. Maybe Corto Maltese to a lesser extent.

[Anonymous No.2023108]

>>2023099
I think that's not an /ic/ tendency, that's just a human tendency. People always want to find reasons for their lack of success / ability that are not they themselves.

People want to feel like their mediocricy is justified and that others are only better because they are lucky. Similarly, people justify that others are worse off because they somehow deserve it. This is especially prevalent in American culture, where the whole "you can do it if you only really try!" thing is so deeply rooted, that there is a big tendency to feel like poor or unsuccessful people deserve it for not trying hard enough.

[Anonymous No.2023111]

>>2023099

the greatest artists of all time have always been men, even now, they're all men.

horny kids who fap and shill for sakimichan are the ones who think people like her are among the "greats". shes ZERO.

this muh women and men are the same is a recent phenomenon thanks to feminism and oestrogenic tap water. faggots.

btw, im not saying girl artists dont exist, im saying they're the EXCEPTION... and the few that do exist get lots of attention because of chronic masturbating white knights who shitpost on ic all day

[Anonymous No.2023124]

>>2023111

[Anonymous No.2023144]

>>2023111
The fact that women were not allowed to be aprentices to master painters sure didn't help women in the great master's era.

[Anonymous No.2023146]

>>2023111
So how do you explain the fact that there are so many female artists who are better than you in particular? Are you exceptionally bad and untalented for a man?

[Anonymous No.2023149]

while you faggots keep arguing, I'm drawing! Mwahahahaha!!!

[Anonymous No.2023163]

>>2021256
>I know 30 year olds who went professional in less than three years and had families to take care of on top of a job
Different anon, but is that true? Please tell more and show examples.

[Anonymous No.2023164]

>>2022911
>takes on the majority of responsibilities
>feel guilty for neglecting self
>whines about it

women are fucking dumb

[Anonymous No.2023165]

>>2023146
>So how do you explain the fact that there are so many female artists who are better than you in particular?
Uh, because that dude isn't one of the greatest artists of all time? Did you even read his post? He's not saying women can't be good artists, he's just saying there are none who have ever been GREAT ie. someone important in art history.

>>2023144
Women have been welcome to study under masters for over a hundred years now. And there have been historically women who have painted centuries ago (Artemisia Gentileschi for example) but none of them ever held the same impact as that of the men of their time. And there have been plenty of men who were self taught.

[Anonymous No.2023173]

>>2023019
Can you tell me about her routine/discipline?

[Anonymous No.2023177]

>>2023164
>single person
>hurr (plural)

[Anonymous No.2023181]

>>2023163

There are none. He's lying.
There's a peak period in which you can "make it".

[Anonymous No.2023183]

>>2023111
>bringing up /r9k/-tier gender debate for no reason
Fuck off m8, this shit is stale as year old bread.

Quit ruining an otherwise decent(ish) thread.

[Anonymous No.2023188]

>>2023181
Don't put me down for no reason, I'm genuinely curious.

[Anonymous No.2023194]

>>2023188
There are some examples of people starting late and making it pro, but you need to realize that A) this is unusual, B) it takes longer than 3 years, and C) they usually didn't have full other responsibilities. Brad Rigney gets mentioned a lot, I think he started in his thirties? Forget the exact age. But his wife took care of all the bills and it took him like a decade of hard work (he works HARD, like 8 to 18 hours a day) to reach a level where he was making serious money. The other big name late started is Min Yum, who began sometime around 26 I think. But I don't know the details of his life other than that.

[Anonymous No.2023195]

>>2023194
I think he started at 28? I have that number stuck in my head.

That said; wasn't he a drug addict or some shit? I can't remember his backstory.

[Anonymous No.2023202]

>>2023194
I can at most give it 8 hours a day. I work a day job, so something crazy like 18 daily is right out.
So I guess there's pretty much no chance I'll make pro starting at 26? I figure if I have the abilities at ~35 it won't matter much due to lack of work experience?
I really couldn't start before, that kinda sucks now.

[Anonymous No.2023203]

>>2023195
Yeah Rigney had some alcohol problems. Think he went to AA? Anyways, he got clean, realized his life was shit, and decided to pour every ounce of energy into his art.

[Anonymous No.2023208]

>>2023202
Well Rigney only works stupid hours like 18 a day when trying to hit a deadline. The first jobs he was getting he got paid around 100$ each...and he would take over 100 hours on a painting. It also took him a decade partly because he figured out most things on his own since the same resources we have now online weren't available back then.

If you can hit 8 hours a day then that's plenty. I doubt you can though, at least not at first. It's crazy hard to have the self discipline to work a full 8 hours each day on art. If you can manage hitting like 2 or 3 hours a day for a couple years you can get pretty good, and by then you will have the discipline to be able to bump it up more to say 4 or 5 hours a day or whatever and just keep going. Study smart though.

And realize there is nothing inherently different about an 18yo putting in 8 hours daily and a 26yo doing the same. The main difference is that the 26yo probably has more responsibilities in life such as bills, rent, a family, a job etc that make it tougher to put in those 8 hours, and they are more likely to have the "I'll never make it" attitude that you are clinging to.

[Anonymous No.2023210]

>>2023181
>There's a peak period in which you can "make it".

here we go again...

[Anonymous No.2023211]

>>2023194
I forget his name but there was also that one Chinese artist who started when he was like 30 something and is now an art director at some game studios.

[Anonymous No.2023214]

>>2023202
The hard part is actually working at it, there's just so much shit you can do at 21 that you can't do at 26.

If you worked on art in all of your spare time, taking small breaks here and there to avoid burn out you could get good in 7 years just as most people who start at 15 get good by 22.

[Anonymous No.2023215]

>>2023208
I'm doing around 4 or so hours now, ramping it up slowly. Being smart about it is harder, but I have help.
The biggest issue I have and a thought that I can't get rid off is that younger people already finished schools and can have a proper education, yet I'm just doing it now.
That and the fact that I can't go to a daily school. Which I'd like a lot.

But we'll see where it goes. I'm not clinging to that attitude, it's just a lingering thought.

[Anonymous No.2023220]

>>2023194
>There are some examples of people starting late and making it pro, but you need to realize that A) this is unusual

Of course it's unusual. But that's because people usually already have an established career at that age and don't just start up something completely new. It has nothing to do with that your brain suddenly shuts down in your mid 20s and you are unable to learn, you fucking retard.

Not everyone can get great art art, but the level of skill you need to "make it" is ridiculously low and anyone with a working brain can easily do that at any age as long as they don't suffer from dementia or other age related mental diseases.

[Anonymous No.2023222]

>>2021233

>basic round surface rendering using smudge tool
>white background
>chromatic abberation
>god mode

you might need to check those standards of yours.

[Anonymous No.2023226]

>>2023222
I'm not OP and I certainly wouldn't call it god mode either, but understanding the basics is all you need to create good art. There's no reason to be fancy just for the sake of being fancy. Just understand how form works, where the sharp, cast shadows go and where the soft form shadows are and the specularity of the material you are rendering. 99% of /ic/, you included, is unable to do that and most try to hide their lack of knowledge behind shitty "painterly" wannabe Jaime Jones brush strokes.

Also, the chromatic abberation is incredibly sublte in that image. Like so subtle I had to look very closely just to notice it after you mentioned it. So you are complaining about really irrelevant shit.

[Anonymous No.2023244]

>>2023220
>assumptions
I was just pointing out it was unusual, which it is. That's all I said. He was expecting lots of examples of people who have done it, but the fact is that not many have. That's all. Chill out dude.

[Anonymous No.2023254]

>>2023244
Haha. He called you out and made your butt hurt. Fucking ic. Mouth spewing experts.

[Anonymous No.2023257]

>>2023214
>7 years

jesus, it doesn't take that long, does it? i thought 2 years was a good estimate

[Anonymous No.2023261]

>>2023226

you should not talk out of your ass. if you are easily impressed by basic shading and soft rendering, some shitty generic gaussian blur and some chromatic abberation then I'm sure your standards aren't very high either. I'm not going to step into the post your art faggot circle, but you never know to who you are talking. do not project.

[Anonymous No.2023263]

>>2023226
it's certainly not god mode but it's also not good art.

[Anonymous No.2023264]

>>2023257
It's dependent on how much time you spend and how you spend it.
Some people can dedicate 12 hour every day for six months and focus on improving, they will get good fast (Sinix)
Someone working for 2 hours every day for 3 years for fun will not improve nearly as fast. (Most artists)

[Anonymous No.2023266]

>>2023257
Well it depends on your definition of what "good" is. And it depends how many hours a day you are putting in over those years. So it is very variable (and some people learn more quickly than others too, or do more efficient studying etc).

That being said, 2 years is a bit short, unless you are doing like 12 hours a day insane progress. 7 is a reasonable number to go from noob to solid pro.

[Anonymous No.2023268]

>>2023254
He actually never said anything about what that other anon was saying though, lel.

It is unusual that people pick up a career in art/git gud (or a new career in general) at that age. I don't know how the other guy thought unusual = impossible.
>>2023257
2 years is definitely not a lot of time. Of course it all depends on what's your current level of drawing + how many hours you pull into it + if you study efficiently.

A lot of people say five years is a good estimate assuming you put sevearl hours a day and work smart, assuming you're just a beginner/just picking up the fundamentals properly.

[Anonymous No.2023299]

For you guys that are over 25, its not over. You just need to do the Overlap.

http://seanwes.com/podcast/137-the-overlap-technique-a-crash-course/

[Anonymous No.2023338]

>>2021256
>I know 30 year olds who went professional in less than three years and had families to take care of on top of a job.
Yeah, right.
Post their names or didn't happen.

[Anonymous No.2023343]

>>2023338
Louie Anderson
Howie Sutton
Dominic Peck

[Anonymous No.2023346]

>>2023164
> whines about women to anon
> anons is a girl
> whines about anon

:^)

[Anonymous No.2023350]

>>2021776
>>2021772
>>2021805
>tfw 19 yesterday and nobody else than my family (not even relative ones) wished me happy birthday
I don't fucking care an ounce.

[Anonymous No.2023364]

>>2023343
>the only person I could find (Louie Anderson) paints like on pic related
>others have no online portfolio, no website, I couldn't find anything about them
Are you sure that they are pros?
Are they teachers, or something?

[Anonymous No.2023393]

>>2023364
and there you have it folks.
lel started when i was 13

[Anonymous No.2023400]

>>2023364

Surely the poster meant artists they personally knew, not top tier concept artists with over 1000 mercs under their belt. If this person can pay the bills with their art what's your excuse?

[Anonymous No.2023430]

>>2023400
>If this person can pay the bills with their art what's your excuse?
I would be ashamed to sell something as shitty as this.

[Anonymous No.2023436]

>>2023430
Never
Gonna
Make it

[Anonymous No.2023437]

>>2023430
And this is why you miss out on golden opportunities. Keep up that mentality.

[Anonymous No.2023469]

>got retinal detachment 3 years ago
>waste time for recovery
>now age 30
>next month 31
>eye sight is 80%
>my left eyes is beyond repairable for life
>kinda depress when seeing young artist can see and draw better

I dont fuckin care if its too late, some thing cant be unforseen, i just want to draw... you dont know the terror of seeing shadow coming down inside your eyes

[Anonymous No.2023488]

>>2021772
fuck you, I wish I could go back in time to that age knowing what I know now

fucking social anxiety and depression over problems I could have easily solved

[Anonymous No.2023511]

>>2023469

every now and then i see tiny flashes in my vision and I've noticed I've got more floaters recently, my optician said that it could be a sign of retinal detachment, just the thought of it scares me so I can't imagine what it must actually feel like.

[Anonymous No.2023543]

Is "making it" a meme?

>get an art job
>art director: Well meme'd, friend!

[Anonymous No.2023549]

>under 20 year olds complaining about anything

[Anonymous No.2023552]

>>2023469

thats not a passion to draw, thats a mid-like crisis m8. just take a holiday and draw out in the open, then come back to the monotony of life. sorry to say, buts your not gonna make it, you're too old - its a FACT of life.

i'm not gonna be an astronaught and i've accepted that, just like YOU wont be an artist. but keep it a hobby, noones saying you cant do that.

[Anonymous No.2023560]

I'm 21 which is almost near 25 which means if I don't get good by then I'm never gonna make it.

Just fucking KILL MEEEE

[Anonymous No.2023631]

>>2021369
Sometimes i wish i was asexual, i cannot finish a nice drawing without a dick hidden somewhere.

[Anonymous No.2023711]

>>2023163
Does it matter if he's lying or not?
Just practice and work on your studies. Having trouble? Take some online courses and are highly recommended.

There's youtube vids out there that even pro artists say "I wish I had this when I was growing up work on my art" since they help aid on drawing so well.

With all the info that came out in 2013 and online courses becoming a thing, no reason not to git gud in 3 years.

[Anonymous No.2023917]

>>2023711
>>2023163

Ever heard of the 10,000 hour rule, where it takes roughly 10,000 hours of practice.

If you practice 2 hours a day for a year, that would be 730 hours.

3 hrs = 1095 end of year

4 hrs = 1460 end of year

Etc, etc, you can come improve a lot fast if you actually focus and every time you practice always think of it as "what can I improve today".

I'm an art major and at times I feel behind. So don't worry. Just practice.

[Anonymous No.2023919]

How does age matter when it comes to art? You're not an athlete who needs their body to be in peak physical condition.

[Anonymous No.2023921]

>>2023917

>Cont.

>10,000 hours makes you basically a master.

[Anonymous No.2023930]

>>2023919

No, not really. I've seen people with one eye at an older age, still paint and draw masterpieces.

It just depends on how hard you work and practice. Being an artist is a skill, not based on a state of physical condition. You still retain the same skills over time if you don't practice them. You maybe rusty, but they are still there.

Now go out and draw from life you lil' scamp. Draw your room, backyard, neighborhood, go to the zoo and draw, DRAW FROM LIFE!

[Anonymous No.2023939]

>>2023543
>Is "making it" a meme?

Used constantly on /ic and not once have I seen someone describe what it actually means.

From what I have gathered its either becoming a concept artist or DA/Patron superstar before you are 30.

[Anonymous No.2024022]

>>2023543
>>2023939
"Making it"
Means that you can soley live off of your art.
Commisions or otherwise

[Anonymous No.2024109]

>15 year old girl did this

time to suicide

[Anonymous No.2024142]

>>2024109
did you expect a 15 year old guy to draw that

[Anonymous No.2024149]

>>2024109
ask her to do some gesture drawing
then u can see her true power

[Anonymous No.2024156]

>>2021233
>studying to be animator
well that explains it

[Anonymous No.2024160]

>>2024109
http://mochiaa.deviantart.com/

[Anonymous No.2024176]

>>2021233
Younger artists are getting better and that's a fact. They're getting exposed earlier to better artists, tutorials, books, etc.

Plus now they are more aware that art can be made for a living.

[Anonymous No.2024201]

>>2024176

>Why aren't we killing ourselves yet

>23 and am so-so atm

>Art major, fml

>Switching to join the Navy, fuck this shit

[Anonymous No.2024236]

>>2024201
What are you going to do, paint on the shells?

[Anonymous No.2024240]

>>2024236

>Not painting on bomb shells

>Not painting on rockets

[Anonymous No.2024243]

>>2023469
Ignore >>2023552 pessimism and just draw

[Anonymous No.2024246]

>>2024240
>try to google a nice pic of some guy painting a bombshell
>go through a string of searches
>find out pinups on those planes are called bombshells because they blew your socks off [in bothways]
>thus leading to the "bombshell" body type

[Anonymous No.2024259]

>>2024246

Murica', fuck yeah!

[Anonymous No.2024312]

>>2024201

Don't do it.

I did an enlistment and it was fucking miserable. It's a bureaucratic clusterfuck populated by people who worship Glenn Beck.

[Anonymous No.2024323]

How do you get rendering like the OP?

[Anonymous No.2024506]

>>2024109
>m-m-m-m-motor skills

[Anonymous No.2024651]

>>2024142
>done by the fat guy in the back of the classroom
Makes sense

[Anonymous No.2024796]

>>2024109
did you know Sakimichan is 23 years old

[Anonymous No.2024817]

>>2021233
Some good cartooning, but that's as far as her skills go.
Still pretty impressive for a 18 year old I guess. It sure beats whatever shit I was doing at her age.

[Anonymous No.2024863]

>>2023299
Whoa. I don't think you realize what you've stumbled upon here.
>Hey listener. Do you have dreams? Do you want to fulfill them? Well, here's your chance. Join 'the community'!
>There you'll be in a context where everyone has the same mindset, the perfect environment for priming yourself.
>mindlessly parrot what we tell you until you start believing it. It doesn't matter whether you think that what I'm saying makes sense or not, just pretend you do.
>Also, get rid of all those negative influences in your life. Anyone who's telling you that you're making a mistake is just holding you back.
>Sure, you're brainwashing yourself, but trust me, it's for your own good. You just gotta believe me on this. I promise you won't regret it.

Also note that the second guy is there to mime the part of the skeptic, so that listeners are more likely to suspend their own skepticism and accept what they are being told, and the fact that there's an aftershow session that's meant to make the listener feel like the podcasters are sharing something intimate with them, which makes them fall under the illusion there's a bond between them.


I hate to break it to you, but this guy is obviously trying to create a cult. His Ideology isn't all that different from scientology.

[Anonymous No.2024950]

>>2024863
Now you're brainwashing me into not being brainwashed.
Or maybe its the other way around

[Anonymous No.2024980]

dat ass
wonder what her refs were

[Anonymous No.2024982]

>>2024817
>but that's as far as her skills go
That makes sense when se wants to be a cartoonist wouldn't you think.

[Anonymous No.2025307]

>>2021233
WHAT THE FUCK WHY WOULD YOU DRAW LUCKY LUKE GAY PORN

FUCK DEVIANTART

[Anonymous No.2025370]

>>2025307
Why not?
Is rule 34 a new thing for you?

[Anonymous No.2025404]

>>2024980

shes a cute 15 yo italian girl im sure she can look in the mirror

[Anonymous No.2025422]

>>2025370
I like r34 but lucky luke ? That's fucked up

[Anonymous No.2025429]

>>2025370
>>2025422
And it's the only thing she is drawing, it really disturbs me

[Anonymous No.2025577]

>>2025429
Girls love their ships.
Some more than others.

[Anonymous No.2025595]

This is like one of those silly/useless superpowers thread
>Draw very well, but you can only draw Lucky Luke gay erotica
>I TAKE IT

[Anonymous No.2025724]

>>2025595
This is so weird. how does such a talented artist end up drawing such weird shit.

[Anonymous No.2025730]

>>2025422
>>2025429
>4channer being triggered over rule 34

>>2025724
isn't that why people learn to draw?

[Anonymous No.2026023]

>>2021233
>18 years old
>achieved godmode drawing Lucky Luke gay porn
are you seriously jelly of this?

[Anonymous No.2026045]

my sides this is amazing

[Anonymous No.2026046]

>>2026023
Are you really this uncreative?

[Anonymous No.2026050]

>>2023488
What was the problems and how did you solve them?

[Anonymous No.2026061]

>>2025595
>This is like one of those silly/useless superpowers thread
>Draw very well, but you can only draw Lucky Luke gay erotica
Holy shit i laughed so hard at this. And ended up with laughing like a most ridiculous person.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWMDqQPpWg8

[Anonymous No.2029202]

>>2025595
my sides orbited

[Anonymous No.2029677]

>>2021233
AHAHA
wow

I have to say, that is some good sense of shape!

[Anonymous No.2029738]

>>2024109
time to find out where she lives and so I can fuck her face

[Anonymous No.2029754]

>>2025595
It's so smooth, it makes me want to take a cock up my ass.

[Anonymous No.2029887]

Egon Schiele became famous at 18, died 28.

[Anonymous No.2029892]

>>2029887
And Thomas Lawrence was supporting his entire family with his pastel portraits at age 10, then by 18 was the top in the world and was painting the queen, oh and he was self taught. Art history isn't fair when you look through it since there are those 1 in 10 million people who are freakishly good.