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[Anonymous No.1993154]

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>>1989166


Post your current drawing here and give constructive critiques to others!

Please make sure your posted image is clear and is under 1500 x 1500 pixels in size.
If you want critique on a drawing from the previous thread, you can delete it there and repost in this one.

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[Anonymous No.1993156]

[Anonymous No.1993162]

>>1993154

Jesus christ that upper body height is just unnerving.

[Anonymous No.1993166]

>>1993154

[illastrat No.1993169]

I want somebody to surpass me itt.

[Anonymous No.1993170]

>>1993154
SHORTER. TORSO.

[Anonymous No.1993171]

>>1993162
You're right, i did an overlay and it looks like I started stretching her out once i hit the navel.

I'm pretty mad at myself that I didn't notice.

[illastrat No.1993172]

>>1993162
Its beautiful though. U couldnt do better.

[Anonymous No.1993174]

>>1993154
AAHHHHHH

[illastrat No.1993175]

>>1993171
Its beautiful

[Anonymous No.1993177]

>>1993154
You made me feel a lot better about myself I thought I was the only one that did that with the Torso being too long and all.

[Anonymous No.1993178]

>>1993177
>>1993174
>>1993170
>>1993162
;_; please forgive me

[Anonymous No.1993180]

>>1993178
I'll post mine so you wouldn't feel so alone

[Anonymous No.1993185]

>>1993154

longfitgirl is long

[Anonymous No.1993189]

>>1993178

Don't worry bro, as long as you are aware of it you can fix it. Unlike that namefag above, take crit well and you shall do fine.

Back to studies with me, drawing for /dzg/. For shits n giggles, nothing serious.

[Anonymous No.1993196]

>>1993154
The elongated torso actually gives this character in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.1993208]

>>1993178
take it easy friend. You draw well, just a misstep in proportion. Easily fixed.

[illastrat No.1993214]

Heres one with a normal torso. Wip.

[illastrat No.1993218]

>>1993208
If it was my art youd say....

[Anonymous No.1993221]

>>1993214

That torso is anything but normal. Imagine her standing upright, it's still fucking long as hell.

[Anonymous No.1993227]

Just got this scanned, gonna start colouring soon

[Anonymous No.1993229]

>>1993154
The one error aside I actually like this a lot.

[illastrat No.1993231]

>>1993221
Oh well....i was 15 when i drew it.


*gloating

[Anonymous No.1993232]

>>1993214
You can't call something that you haven't finished and haven't touched in years a WIP. It has to be "In Progress" to be a Work in Progress.

Also, please stick to your own threads so that people can hide them if they want to, rather having this whole thread eventually get derailed by you or people imitating you.

[Anonymous No.1993236]

why is rendering rocks so addictive.

[Anonymous No.1993238]

>>1993154
Offputting, yet, it's still believable, it's somewhat like a caricature. Perfection isn't important. You've still created a successful drawing.

[illastrat No.1993243]

>>1993232
Cool. I was just waiting for these super great artists. They must be asleep. Whatever.

[Anonymous No.1993250]

>>1993231
How come you became so much worse in all those years? I mean, not that this drawing is any good, but it's not quite as horrid as your more recent stuff.

[Anonymous No.1993259]

>>1993227
You better use some light tones so they don't blur out your shading and textures. I like it m8

[illastrat No.1993260]

>>1993250
Okay...

I made this a few months ago. Created it in 4 hours on 18x24. Its not the best. But lets see better.

[Anonymous No.1993264]

Testing my imagination to see how much i learned from clothes studies. Please critique.

[Anonymous No.1993266]

>>1993180
Anything you guys see off please respond.

[Anonymous No.1993275]

>>1993260
>Its not the best.
honesty
>But lets see better.
insecurity

[Anonymous No.1993276]

Made this last night (sorry if it's sideways God damn phone does that without any warning), gonna ink it and possibly make a portrait sized one with much more detail, but for now, critique?

[Anonymous No.1993277]

>>1993180
>>1993266
Clavicles don't make sense. The arm on our left is too long. Pelvis + mid torso doesn't make sense - as in there's inconsistencies in the forms involved.

Don't you normally post these in the animu threads?

[Anonymous No.1993278]

I think this piece is almost finished. Please critique. I like it rough.

Bonus question: How close is this to actually-getting-paid-for-work level?

>>1993180
Her right hand is definitely too long. Alse her left boob is... look at it. You'll figure it out.

[Anonymous No.1993279]

>>1993277
>Don't you normally post these in the animu threads?

No

[illastrat No.1993283]

>>1993279
Lol!! You cant draw hands

[Anonymous No.1993285]

>>1993260

Jesus christ.

[Anonymous No.1993288]

>>1993279

woah is that legal??

[Anonymous No.1993287]

>>1993278
>actually-getting-paid-for-work level
personally i think you're kinda there already. It really depends on who needs this kind of work.

I don't know what art directors are looking for.

[illastrat No.1993291]

>>1993275
No. Not insecurity. Just poetic justice. You cant call it shit when compared to other artists. The same artisys that havebeen talking shit. I am one of the best on the board.

[Anonymous No.1993292]

Some people have long torsos and non-standard bodies, please deal w/ the fact that not everybody is the same

[Anonymous No.1993293]

>>1993288
Do small breasts scare you?
>>1993283
I procrastinate hands they're the very last thing I hate them

[illastrat No.1993295]

>>1993293
You hate them because they are "hard."

[Anonymous No.1993299]

>>1993260
theres only room for 1 bones.

[Anonymous No.1993300]

Finished this finally.

[Joe Walker No.1993302]

Some skull work from a few weeks ago, had trouble with the flower shapes and stems even with a ref

[Anonymous No.1993306]

>>1993236
Because while your brain evolved to spot anatomical errors (so that you won't procreate with an unhealthy specimen), it never really needed to spot orological and mineralogical mistakes.
You just can't see that what you're doing is wrong, so it seems more fun as in "whoa, finally I can make something entirely right!". But that's just an illusion.

[Anonymous No.1993317]

>>1993300
SWORD HANDLE IS AWFUL AND SHE HAS NO CURVES

[Anonymous No.1993323]

>>1993299

My sides are gone.

[Anonymous No.1993325]

>>1993292

those chicks are seriously groce mane. would rather bang a fatty.

[Anonymous No.1993338]

>>1993306

that makes sense. i'm not sure if i got the second part though.

[Anonymous No.1993342]

>>1993325
Mein Neger.

[Anonymous No.1993352]

>>1993300
Pretty nice, but there are a lot of nitpicks. Mostly things to do with materials and consistent lighting, as well as where forms sit in space. I also think the Q<3 can be larger and have the image slightly smaller with more white space around it. But overall good job.

[Anonymous No.1993355]

[Anonymous No.1993358]

>>1993154

[Anonymous No.1993360]

>>1993292
Poor girls, I didnt know the rack is still being used.

[Anonymous No.1993361]

>>1993360
>>1993325
That's one person, are you guys blind or retarded?

[Anonymous No.1993365]

>>1993361
you are speaking to jealous fat girls

[Anonymous No.1993366]

>>1993361
It's /ic/ with poor observational skills as usual. She is very interesting to look at you normally don't see these proportions often.

[Anonymous No.1993369]

>>1993366
>you normally don't see these proportions often.
Yeah because those tits are 95% plastic.

[Anonymous No.1993371]

>>1993366
>Some delicious tithair there

[Anonymous No.1993372]

>>1993369
Will you stop being a jealous brat and observe at her overall proportion? Look especially at her torso and pelvis.

[Anonymous No.1993373]

Whoops I didn't realise there was a new thread :((

I did this about a year ago, and I'm thinking about remaking it (it hurts eyes, i'm sorry)

Any tips on how to improve composition/tones etc..?

[Anonymous No.1993376]

>>1993372
samefag here, I love how you can clearly see the iliac crest and how it starts to turn over and around giving that "bowl shape" and disk look I sometimes have a hard time trying to show this on my drawings.

[Anonymous No.1993378]

>>1993372
I'd advise against it. You should shield yourself from these baleful proportions and let your eyes only see bodies as perfectly proportioned as possible. Otherwise you'll end up doing sketches that look like these monstrosities and people will naturally feel they are wrong (like it happened with the OP) even if they aren't. It's just like if you drew girls who looked like Hiroshima survivors. Just because somewhere some people exist that met such criteria, it doesn't mean you should draw them like that.

[Anonymous No.1993384]

>>1993372
>>1993366
>>1993342
>>1993292
>people find these body types attractive

[Anonymous No.1993386]

Can a few people give me critique instead of talking about long girl torsos? >>1993358

Pretty please? :/

[Anonymous No.1993395]

>>1993378

Actually, now looking at the image, it looks like the leg placement is what throws it off rather than the long torso.

[Anonymous No.1993397]

>>1993366
>Doctor Pavel I'm ayy lmao

[Anonymous No.1993400]

>>1993277
>>1993279
My bad then. The thin frame, big head and quality of the lines made me think you were Mikufag.

To elaborate on what I mentioned earlier, the clavicles are strange because you aren't showing the handle-bar like form that they take, and the gap between clavicular heads is too large.

The arm looks too long partially from the pubic bone being raised, and a lot from the belly button being raised and the shoulders being narrowed.

For the waist you need to emphasize the pinch on one end and the stretch on the other. Your markings for the anterior superior illiac spine are misplaced, and it looks like you arbitrarily trimmed out a lot of tissue in an effort to make the figure skinnier, but you didn't fully take into account the structure of the pelvis. As a form it's now lopsided and skewed.

[Anonymous No.1993406]

>>1993278
>How close is this to actually-getting-paid-for-work level?

not close at all. not trying to be rude or a dick, that's just how it is from my experience.

[Anonymous No.1993414]

>>1993400
Very well put thank you

[Anonymous No.1993415]

>>1993406

[Anonymous No.1993421]

>>1993414
Unless you sell it on Fiverr or so. :)

[Anonymous No.1993422]

>>1993386
there are many things wrong
keep studying and then go back to this

[Anonymous No.1993432]

Trying to get better at backgrounds.

[Anonymous No.1993433]

>>1993432
Dat lighthouse got attitude!

[Anonymous No.1993444]

>>1993433
lol sure it has. but i like how its different than those
>muh dragons
>muh epic landscapes with
>muh epic composition

[Anonymous No.1993448]

>>1993444
Stop projecting.

[Anonymous No.1993450]

>>1993444

It doesn't make sense for it to look that bendy. That's what that guy was alluding to.

[Anonymous No.1993451]

>>1993444
Do you really have to post like this? If you can't say anything good about something other than "hurr it's better than muh subject matter I dislike" then don't say anything at all.

[Anonymous No.1993455]

what the hell /ic/ let me post. fucking bullshit captcha.

[Anonymous No.1993459]

am i anthony jones yet?

[Anonymous No.1993461]

>>1993455
Buy a 4chan pass, Anon and say goodbuy to all those troublesome captcash at only $20 shek-I mean dollars a year!

[Anonymous No.1993462]

>>1993459
Well you sure got the "monster with terrible anatomy" thing going on. I would hide the other hand too for maximum resemblance.

[Anonymous No.1993469]

underpainting. gonna try not to screw up what goes on top of it

[Anonymous No.1993471]

>>1993469
pretty thick for an underpainting

[Anonymous No.1993472]

>>1993459
almost there m8
almost there

[Anonymous No.1993474]

Im looking for exercises that will help me be more accurate by eyeballing from reference. Also I want to be able to draw something from a diffrent angle then in reference better


gib exercises.

[Anonymous No.1993475]

>>1993474
Here's one with an interesting angle.

[Anonymous No.1993478]

>>1993475
no, I mean gib me ideas of exercises to be able to draw more accurate from reference.

[Anonymous No.1993481]

>>1993478
Bargue

[Anonymous No.1993483]

Feeling good about this so far, any critique?

[Anonymous No.1993484]

>>1993478
You get more accurate through repetition and critical thinking, not by whatever approach tutorials or pseudo science says because the bottom line is you just do it.

[Anonymous No.1993489]

>>1993483
The linework on the beach (?) right where the land meets the water feels a little weird. It implies some strange angle and is somehow way too consistent.

And I don't understand the shading of one object in the background, where this figure is standing on one of these "branches". To its right there is some strange structure, I don't understand how this shape works.

Otherwise, seems cool, I'm trying to go somewhat the same direction.

[Anonymous No.1993490]

>>1993483
That it looks fucking awesome. lol

[Anonymous No.1993491]

>>1993474
What he said >>1993481. Copying Bargue plates is a great way to start building your observational skill. Be sure to follow the technique outlined in the Bargue and Gerome Drawing Course.

The next step is to get a ton of experience drawing from life. Be sure to practice constructing your forms while you're at it. Once you know how forms work in real life, and how to construct complex forms from basic ones, you'll be able to easily interpret reference photos both in terms of basic shapes and basic forms. You'll of course need to understand at least the basics of perspective to do all of this well.

[Anonymous No.1993495]

>>1993489
Thanks man i appreciate the feed back
The structure to the right you might be talking about is a cloud, i did shade that one a bit dark

[Anonymous No.1993508]

>>1993495
>The structure to the right is a cloud
Aah okay.
Yea it's kinda hard to understand because you put a similar lineweight to it than everything else.

Are you going to color the rest as well?

[Anonymous No.1993515]

>>1993508
Yea i will be, il post where im at every now and then

[Anonymous No.1993532]

>>1993483
Great work so far. His right shoulder though, it reads 'cyborg arm' to me, but just below looks distinctly bandaged, a confusing combination.

[Anonymous No.1993539]

>>1993532
Thanks dude. I see what you mean, i actually meant it to be a little shoulder tattoo, il need to make it more subtle

[Anonymous No.1993540]

posted in the last thread, but i think i'm finished w/ this

[Anonymous No.1993550]

ghetto setup/lighting/etc

[Anonymous No.1993551]

>>1993540
his legs above the knee look unnaturally long

[Anonymous No.1993556]

Perspective stuff.

[Anonymous No.1993558]

>>1993556

[Anonymous No.1993560]

>>1993540
looking good
why don't you play with negative space a bit?

[Anonymous No.1993562]

>>1993550
Looks pretty good anon. You MIGHT be missing some dark occlusion shadows where the objects meet the table, but it's hard to say for sure without seeing the setup in person.

[Anonymous No.1993574]

Just did this in painter.

[Anonymous No.1993576]

>>1993574
the thumbnail doesn't do it much justice .

[Anonymous No.1993598]

Anyone here into drawing space stuff?

[Anonymous No.1993600]

>>1993598
what kind? post something

[Anonymous No.1993606]

>>1993373
the entire upper and right half is COMPLETELY FUCKIN BLANK. either zoom in and detail the bottom left corner, or throw in some detail that makes the whole picture interesting.

Also, the way the mermaid is positioned makes you want to look what she is looking at, which should be close to the center, or where you want people to look at. The bottom left corner is normally not the most appropriate place to make people look in a composition.

[Anonymous No.1993616]

Fuck I'm so slow

Crit appreciated

[Anonymous No.1993634]

>>1993551
>>1993560
tried to fix the legs and made the sky a bit bigger, it looks a lot better ((i also added some tiny stars))

[Anonymous No.1993636]

>>1993616
I liked some of the earlier versions to be honest. Right now it feels boring and the black smoke cloud behind her seems too conveniently placed and artificial. The huge dead space behind her is also boring and feels unnecessary.

I wanted to add more interest to the image and make the space behind her lead into her. So I made the smoke be a couple big billows that cut across the composition diagonally. This leads into her and also contrasts the angle of her body and the flagpole. I also added more flags in the distance to echo the rhythms in the image and help force the eye to the main figure while filling the image out more so it doesn't feel as empty. I still felt hte image was lacking, and thought that a bit of interesting lighting might help. So I threw in a strong warm light at a low angle--maybe a sunrise (which seems to fit the theme of the image)--and it lets us add in some strong colour on the focal point and break the shape up a bit, as well as get the interesting effect of light passing through fabric and lighting it up with some nice SSS. The ground was too uniform too, so I made it slant slightly and added a bit more variety in the texture and the grasses sticking up.

Now keep in mind that I made a ton of changes and may have strayed form what you are going for. I just feel your image is a bit lackign and needs some changes to really make it powerful, so you need to decide yourself what changes best suit what you want. Look at the reasoning behind my changes as much as the chnages themselves Isuppose. Hope this helps a bit.

[Anonymous No.1993640]

So I restarted this

[Anonymous No.1993644]

Working on an assignment, hopefully should have it done tomorrow. Does it look too dark, I've had issues with things not transferring right from my computer to the interwebz or other peoples. Might need to adjust the contrast on my screen.

[Anonymous No.1993647]

>>1993644
It's a bit dark but mostly it's just really really muddy. The values are all patchy and the colour temperature looks bad. Can you post the ref? You're probably working from a heavily edited image and then because you are a beginner it is multiplying the effect of muddiness even more.

[Anonymous No.1993649]

>>1993647
Took the shot directly from netflix.
Though I put an exposure layer on the wip and it looks better on my phone.

[Anonymous No.1993659]

>>1993483
I'm digging it so far. Keep up the good work mane.

[Anonymous No.1993660]

>>1993636
The smoke billows you added divide the space in even bands, gives a patterning effect, which flattens the picture plane. For the original artist, I suggest thinking about where the smoke is, whether it's on the ground right behind her or in the distance and accounting for that with some kind of atmospheric perspective or gaps on the smoke that imply that it's billowing from a location nearer the figure.
I feel the additional flags does the opposite of leading the eye to the figure. They distract and look out of place hovering (visually) inches above the ground. A light mass in front of a dark field is enough to draw the eye, especially holding a red banner, which is echoed in her hair color. To combat the emptiness, I would add some tertiary element like birds might do the trick. I think we all want to see this piece succeed because of it's striking simplicity and I think that's worth holding on to.
I think the lighting changes are a good addition, as is the sloping ground, with the exception of the photoshop brush.
A final thing to consider may be the near tangent between the banner and the top of her head. It's not immediately clear where in space the banner is whether it's above, behind, or in front of her head. I think some overlap would help clear that up.
I'm not trying to argue with the person who did the paintover, I think you picked out a lot of the problems with the picture, I just don't agree with your solutions. Hope this is somewhat helpful!

[Anonymous No.1993666]

>>1993644
>>1993649
Cool, so the issues I see are as follows:
-you image is not warm enough (flames provide very warm light)
-you should include the light sources in your image so it is clear how things are being lit
-you are way too detail focused and aren't thinking big picture enough

I think all the details and the transparent stroeks are ruining the image. I put a filter over your image to simplify it and glazed a bit with a soft light layer for that warmth. From there it is easy to add some small details and proceed. You can see how little information is needed though for a clear read on the image.

[Anonymous No.1993678]

>>1993666
Thanks a lot, it really helps. I can see where the light from the fire is hitting and why the image is lit this way.

Will need to take a better look and do some work on this. Hopefully I will be able to post and update tomorrow. Thanks again =D

[Anonymous No.1993681]

>>1993634
Reference a starry sky and do the negative space anon suggested

[Anonymous No.1993682]

My first attempt at digital. W.I.P. Feedback please!

[Anonymous No.1993708]

>>1993682
the horizon line looks too high for the perspective

[Anonymous No.1993711]

Does anyone have any tips on how to digitally paint/render fire?
>inb4 reference
I already am using reference but I'm really at a loss as to how to approach this.

[Anonymous No.1993715]

i drew Eminem with big tits tonight

[Anonymous No.1993716]

>>1993715
tried to keep the muh style to a minimum

[Anonymous No.1993717]

>>1993715
Oh god this made me laugh so hard my eyes are tearing up.

[Anonymous No.1993718]

>>1993716
3 of these 4 were 20 minute poses. takes me a while when im trying to do measurements

[Anonymous No.1993719]

>>1993708
I think that's an underwater view.

[Anonymous No.1993720]

>>1993718
and last one. again, i was drawing rather slow.

[Anonymous No.1993722]

>>1993708
Thank you, I didn't notice it but you're right.

[Anonymous No.1993757]

>>1993154
update on this. cant seem to take a good picture of it

[Anonymous No.1993784]

>>1993720
you know figure drawing is supposed to be about drawing figures right. not roughing them in as a kind of accessory for the face.

the faces are nice and all but you put so little effort into anything else.

[Anonymous No.1993786]

>>1993757
I love the colors, can't wait to see the end-product

[Anonymous No.1993790]

>>1993784
some of it is admittedly a little out of whack. drawing the faces, hands, and feet is still really difficult for me so if I get to the rest of it that's great but it's not a priority. That's probably unhealthy in the long run though. I'll try to even out the effort a little more next time.

also I made sure I got to stare at her tits for at least 3 minutes each pose, but that's just specific to this girl. it's usually old ladies.

[Anonymous No.1993791]

>>1993720
Your line-work is improving but your figures are lacking interior forms and they're only "2.5D". They almost look like they're engravings without a backside to them. They can't rotate. You'd be able to improve a lot if you 1. make sure all of your feet are properly grounded in perspective and 2. you simplify the limbs further till they're almost perfectly cubic (while focusing on the joints specifically)

[Anonymous No.1993872]

Guys teach me to perspective, please.

[Anonymous No.1993876]

>>1993872
things that are farther away get smaller and closer together

things that are closer get bigger and further apart

ezpz

[Anonymous No.1993879]

>>1993757
I really like the way this especially pops and a specific minimum distance and at the same time pulls apart at the seams once you're closer.

[Anonymous No.1993881]

decided to use lens flare, and nobody is gonna stop me.

[Anonymous No.1993927]

>>1993881
The depth on this is great so far. Keep up the good work.

[Anonymous No.1993951]

i tried

[Anonymous No.1993952]

>>1993306
>"whoa, finally I can make something entirely right!"
>just an illusion

[Anonymous No.1993953]

>>1993951
Beautiful piece overall!
Feedback : The woman's posture looks ape-like; I don't know if that's intended. Also, her hair looks like it's caught up in significant wind but none of the plant life hints at that wind which makes it look out of place.

[Anonymous No.1993956]

>>1993881
Have you posted a sketch of this before? It looks familiar to me.

[Anonymous No.1993967]

>>1993927
thanks anon!

>>1993952
that post confused me aswell

>>1993956
yeah i posted a set of sketches a couple of weeks ago, this was the approved one

[Anonymous No.1993968]

>>1993292
>>1993372
>>1993366

Actually that really is an interesting longchick, those who think that there are wrong and right proportions should take a look at her,

I suppose I'll take her ar a reference and do some studies because her body constitution is interesting

[Anonymous No.1993969]

>>1993876
reading "The Art of Perspective" now seems like a total waste.

[Anonymous No.1993970]

>>1993154
Did you use a reference of any sort?

I'd really like to take a look at this longchick is she actually exists.

[Anonymous No.1993974]

>>1993970
She isn't that long. I totally fudged the torso.

[Anonymous No.1993978]

>>1993974
would make a bette sculpture than a photo

[Anonymous No.1993980]

>>1993974
Pretty interesting.

I actually am struggling to draw a figure like this but I can't do it right, I either get "right" proportions or something fucky

[Anonymous No.1993984]

>>1993264
Hey it's yellow paper guy

Both sets of arms in the BG are kinda small and over detailed with the wrinkles. As in, I wouldn't expect to see so the folds so explicitly shown so far away.

Have you tried rendering any of your folds yet?

[Anonymous No.1993987]

>>1993558
Freehand ellipses?

But still cool even if you didn't.

[Anonymous No.1993988]

Holy shit, Anons, this is grand, thanks, I'll study the hell out that

[Anonymous No.1993992]

>>1993169
the post below yours comprised of nothing but text already has.

[Anonymous No.1993999]

>>1993980
>that longass waist
jesus

[Anonymous No.1994006]

[Anonymous No.1994007]

>>1993300
her left arm isn't foreshadowed or lighted correctly. You did a good job of trying to get the felt look right.

>>1993616
keep working on rendering basic forms


you guys seem to give the best crits, so any help would be appreciated

[Anonymous No.1994017]

Trying to get a painted metal feel, also thinking about making the wood a bit more worn out and putting some winded rope between the blade and handle! Any crits?

[Anonymous No.1994019]

>>1994007
Damn it to hell! Any photos in this or is it painted only?
Loving it!

[Anonymous No.1994020]

Clothing is hard. Send halp

[Anonymous No.1994022]

>>1994020
Postin ref

[Anonymous No.1994031]

??

[Anonymous No.1994034]

>>1993967
its taking far too long .
the buyer if not your friend will prob ask for discount now.

[Anonymous No.1994036]

>>1994034

really? he is happy so far. but seriously what is a normal turnaround time for a polished illustration? timeframe was agreed on before the gig so it's not like i'm testing his patience.

[Anonymous No.1994038]

new to these threads got no reply prev thread tt

[Anonymous No.1994040]

[Anonymous No.1994048]

This is my progress over the last five months, critique?

[Anonymous No.1994066]

>>1993636
>>1993660

First of all thank you so much, both of you for your replies. I could not have asked more from strangers on the internet. You have my deepest thanks.

Ok so something both mention is the smoke. What I was actually going for were dense dark clouds but the diagonal streaks also look like clouds and I really like what it does to the image.

The second poster said it seems to flatten the image but I think that might be because they stay or or less the same length so I think I'll make it smaller as it meets the horizon. I see the need for adding more and although I'm not sure about the flags I'll definitly try to think of something.

About it not being clear where the flag is, I had that feeling as well and the overlap was agreat suggestion!

Stuff like the light and the ground I was already planning on adjusting but thank you for taking the time to illustrate that! Maybe I should have mentioned it's still WIP

Many thanks once again! Will post results later today or tomorrow

[Anonymous No.1994068]

So someone said that to make my art more interesting, I should try telling a story. Here's my current WIP. How's the story? Also anatomy/perspective/etc crits are also welcome.

P-pls no bully

[Anonymous No.1994069]

>>1994068
main issue here is composition - I domt know who to focus on and it just looks flat and plan. I would redraw it from a different angle, maybe from the side of the bar in a one point perspective?

[Anonymous No.1994074]

>>1994069
How bout now? I kinda like that perspective, I dunno. And if it's a composition issue, there's other ways to lead the eye to the focal point

[Anonymous No.1994087]

I wanted to try something different

[Anonymous No.1994089]

>>1994087
well, it's messy

[Anonymous No.1994097]

Another update

[Anonymous No.1994101]

>>1994097
I would make everything behind the guy and the ground he's sitting on a few hues darker, your character is sort of blending in to everything right now. Really like the colours though

[Anonymous No.1994104]

>>1994048
The shoulder seems off.

If you're going for realism, tone down on the outlines. There are no outlines in real life. Otherwise, good job.

[Anonymous No.1994108]

>>1994097
Add some depth to the image, you could make the front darker and satuurated.

But love the way this image is going :)

[Anonymous No.1994109]

>>1994108
forgot to ask, do you have a tumblr or something?

[Anonymous No.1994113]

>>1994108
>>1994101

Alright thanks guys i appreciate it
Yea i have a tumblr - https://www.tumblr.com/blog/garresh

[Anonymous No.1994114]

>>1993715
those aren't even big
0/10 for disappointing me

[Anonymous No.1994124]

>>1994038
>>1994040
10/10

why are you even posting here instead of making your own thread of master pieces?

simply ebic

[Anonymous No.1994126]

>>1993952
>"whoa, finally I can make something entirely right!"
>*it's a hologram*

[Anonymous No.1994128]

>>1994007
I'll be more mindful of lighting in the next one. I wasn't too sure how to light the arm in that instance.

[illastrat No.1994138]

Lol. Still looking for these dope artists that are better than me. The only art in this thread that could give me a run is the torso girl, the "card" queen, and the skull. The rest of yall SUCK, and not even slightly suck. I hope yall aint posting in my threads. If you are you seriously cant talk shit. Fucking pathetic.

[Anonymous No.1994139]

>>1994124
i thought people post here to get feedback on their works

[Anonymous No.1994145]

>>1994138
huh?

finished this. took a picture in natural light

[Anonymous No.1994146]

>>1994138
without even opening the thread, I can say that this guy is better than you:
>>1994145

bragging about being the best in a thread on /ic/ is like arguing you're the biggest goldfish in the bowl. but all the better sites kicked your annoying ass out, so you have to play in the kiddie pool.

[Anonymous No.1994148]

>>1994145
don't photograph in direct light. if you're using natural light, photograph either when it's overcast, or in the shade.

[Anonymous No.1994149]

>>1993422
Can you explain?

[Anonymous No.1994150]

>>1994148
got it!

[illastrat No.1994159]

>>1994146
Yea, because biting vangogh is much more noble than having your own style. I guarantee i draw better. The criticism i get is that i cant DRAW:)

[Anonymous No.1994160]

>>1994139
To be honest, I feel like I had already seen those two pics posted before. But come on, did he even bothered to read the sticky?
The orange one seems to have some effort, he tried. However the penis one, Jesus.
He couldn't possibly expect real feedback on neither of them other than
>git gut
>sticky

[Anonymous No.1994163]

>>1994159
you don't have style, you're just unable to draw. everything looks wonky because you have no grasp of the fundamentals. that's not "style", that's just inexperience.

[Anonymous No.1994167]

>>1993634
the stars should be brighter, it would balance out the piece more

[Anonymous No.1994169]

>>1993757
wow i love this anonbb

[illastrat No.1994170]

>>1994163
I draw better than 97% of the board. Empirically.

[Anonymous No.1994171]

found this shitty shit in my wip folder and spent a few hrs fucking with it since i just got a new tablet

>>1994170
pleas efor the love of god check your voicemail and email

[Anonymous No.1994174]

>>1994171
"yes is this mr. tyrone illastrat? we're sorry to inform you you've been turned down by yet another gallery, and you'll have to continue painting out of your mother's spare bedroom. thank you for your interest and have a good day."

[Anonymous No.1994176]

>>1994171
wow i made that png way too small my bad

[illastrat No.1994178]

>>1994174
Not my art, plus i draw better than u. Thank u now stfu

[Anonymous No.1994180]

>>1994178
>not my art
no shit you dumb nigger. I'm responding to his comment about your voicemail. I hope you draw better than you read... oh wait

[illastrat No.1994182]

>>1994174
Oh sorry i missed that. Lol funny

[Anonymous No.1994184]

>>1994160
o-ok

[illastrat No.1994185]

>>1994180
>>1994180
I hope u draw better me. Oh wait, you cant. U let a dumb nig excel over u. U arw inferior to a blackie. Lol

[Anonymous No.1994186]

L-leave Chauncey alone!

[Anonymous No.1994197]

>>1994170
then why do you post terrible shit?! we don't want to see crap art if it's just a show your putting on to get attention. you'd get much more attention ( the right kind of attention) if you posted your good work.

and i really hope you don't do bad shit on purpose just to get a rise out of people. that's a waste of everyone's time including yours.

[Anonymous No.1994200]

>>1993366
Dude, that is photo shopped you idiot.

[illastrat No.1994205]

>>1994197
Why do i post wack shit?

Its fun.....duh. Do u realize how popular i am because i do. This draw thread is the culmination of my tactics. A three year art project. See how small you all feel.

[Anonymous No.1994206]

>>1994170
You did not draw this. Its not even impressive if ya did. And IF you did you sill cant draw faces for shit. Why don't you jest draw to improve your abilities and for the love of it insted of pissing of an already grumy comunity. Your portfolio is small relitve to the sloppiness of you work.
>>1994180 Way to be a racist you sub human asshole.

[Anonymous No.1994208]

>>1994206
>Way to be a racist you sub human asshole.

We do not tolerate the intolerance of others here. >>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.1994209]

>>1994205
Now your jest pretending to troll because you suck.
If you are a troll, congratulations.

[Anonymous No.1994211]

>>1994206
>>1994208
fucking niggers. niggers

[brian No.1994212]

>>1994205
and the culmination of this will be what exactly? if anyone on this board has made a breakthrough in painting it's me.

i made a painting so good it made me stop masturbating 2 years ago. what's your art project gotten you?

nigga

[Anonymous No.1994214]

>>1994208
So racist are ok but we can't have bigots?

[Anonymous No.1994216]

>>1994211
Why are you mad? I'm telling him to go blog about it at /pol/ maybe they'll teach him a bit of tolerance.

[Anonymous No.1994217]

>>1994214
We can't have whiners.

[Anonymous No.1994223]

>>1994212
>i made a painting so good it made me stop masturbating 2 years ago.

I gotta see that painting. I saw a vango and masterbated that same day.

[brian No.1994227]

>>1994223
its an entirely unfascinating painting. painting it is what changed my mind on stuff, not looking at it. trust me if I made a painting that made people stop masturbating by looking at it I'd have won a Nobel Peace Prize by now.

[Anonymous No.1994230]

>>1994205
>popular
>on 4chan

Wooooooow. That must feel reallllllllly good

[illastrat No.1994234]

>>1994206
Lol....you said i did not draw this....lol

[Anonymous No.1994235]

>>1994227
see? we have plenty of crazy without you illastrat. trying to outcrazy the people on here is a tough thing to do.

[illastrat No.1994239]

>>1994206
Who drew it then? Also apparently, i can draw something as complex as a ribcage but i cant draw something as simple as a face. Logic.

[Anonymous No.1994241]

>>1994239
>i cant draw something as simple as a face
truth
prove us wrong.

[Anonymous No.1994244]

>>1994241
i feel like illastrat is seeing other people becoming more popular on the board, and now he wants more attention. gonna suck when he starts posting his actual work and nobody really cares :(

[Anonymous No.1994246]

>>1993462
top kek this made me chuckle

[Anonymous No.1994247]

>>1994241
I don't have anything to prove because the prove is already there. Do you see that ribcage? It's infinitely more complicated than anything you will ever draw in your life. And definitely more complicated than a stupid face.

I wish people faces were ribcages. That way it would actually be interesting to draw them

[Anonymous No.1994248]

>>1994244
>his actual work
sadly, the slapdash portraits of glittery-eyed women ARE his actual works...

[Anonymous No.1994249]

>>1994247
>I have proof I can draw faces!
>posts ribcage
wut. It's much easier to tell when faces are even a little bit off because we're hard-wired to recognize them, and we see them every day. You can get away with a lot more imperfections drawing a ribcage.

You know what would be good evidence that you can draw faces? a well-drawn face. Sadly you've never created one.

[Anonymous No.1994250]

>>1994170
where can i buy shirts and prints of your shit bro? i wanna be you

>>1994019
no photos but i gotta try that shit

[Anonymous No.1994252]

>>1994239
Lol. The fact that you said "who drew it then" would imply you want evidence. We can not image search this high contrast, black and white image. You smell guilty. the lines are in this image (ribcage) copared to any other work, you have.

I cant prove you drew this but you can, easaly. So why dont you. I will admit I am wrong, for what its worth.
Also why dont you expand your small portfolio?

[illastrat No.1994254]

*gloating

[Anonymous No.1994259]

>>1994254
Holy shit, that's awful.
You polished that turd well, though.

[Anonymous No.1994260]

>>1994249
*gloating

[Anonymous No.1994262]

>>1994171
can i get some criticism or what

[Anonymous No.1994263]

>%75 of the posts in the draw thread are about some troll

guess you guys didn't learn from bones. I'm out, these threads used to be pretty good but now they're just filled with a bunch of shitters.

[Anonymous No.1994264]

>>1994031
Not bad, realy like you line. Boring composition.

[illastrat No.1994265]

I drew that shit on 4 in art school. 8x24 in art school.

[Anonymous No.1994271]

Where did you faggots go?
Keep on shitposting.

[Anonymous No.1994273]

>>1994108
Changing the color on the tattoo was a perfectly simple fix. Great progress, looking good.

>>1993879
Also, bumping for feedback on this please.

[Anonymous No.1994279]

>>1994170
>>1994254
Interesting visually, but the proportions of both are way off unless you're drawing the remains of a culture that practiced forms of skull and chest binding in infancy.

[Anonymous No.1994285]

>>1994171
I like the colors but have no idea what is being portrayed. Topless girl on beach wearing fox-scarf and pissy girl with ripped tank-top being stalked by...beach ghosts?

[Anonymous No.1994286]

>>1994206
Lol Illastrat is running away because his is being called out on intellectual theft. I cant believe it took this long to find out he stole that image (Ribcage)

[Anonymous No.1994291]

>>1994171
figures are stiff and unnatural. you're paying attention to important things, like head/neck/shoulders, but it what about clavicles or sternomastoid? the figures also look pretty flat, especially the one in back, due to both the shading and the pose (straight on, arms not projecting into space, mugshot angle). the faces are also too big for the heads. where are the ears? even if you aren't drawing them, you need to know where the are so you know where the jaw slopes up, where the sternomastoid connects, etc. first thing to do though is get some poses that actually convey emotion or personality.

[Anonymous No.1994292]

>>1994286
5000 internets to whomever finds the original artest.

[Anonymous No.1994293]

>>1994292
illastrat go home. this thread isn't about you anymore.

[Anonymous No.1994297]

>>1994292

This >>1994279
and >>1994293

Nobody cares. Go pull one out on your face in a mirror and grace the world by depriving yourself of all forms of human interaction.

[Anonymous No.1994302]

>>1993974
i was kind of hoping this was a study from life :(

[Anonymous No.1994312]

What's wrong with the stomach?

[Anonymous No.1994318]

>>1994312
rib cage too wide, and/or waist too thin

[Anonymous No.1994320]

>>1993562
You are probably right, there should be darker shadows when there's hard light

The lighting in this one was just atmospheric light from the window. I'm thinking now maybe the edges of the cast shadows should be softer, also the proportions are slightly inconsistent-

[Anonymous No.1994322]

Here is the finished piece, im happy with how it turned out
My first time doing anything with backgrounds so i have learned alot for next time

[Anonymous No.1994325]

>>1994320
Pretty good in my opinion
Then again, my opinion is shit

[Anonymous No.1994327]

>>1994320
Perspective on the cup looks wonky. Also why are you not blending at all? Even a quick smudge tool treatment in some key places would really help. Like a big part of still life is understanding how light interacts with form on different types of materials, and you aren't conveying the materials as well as you can without modulation of edges.

[Anonymous No.1994328]

>>1993276
It appears to me that the fingers on the clenched hand are smaller than the fingers on the other hand, and the neck seems slightly too far forward on the body based on shoulder position

[Anonymous No.1994333]

>>1993278
The character is way too detailed relative to the environment. Not sure if you're looking at fixing that with your "rough" finish, but it doesn't look right as it stands

[Anonymous No.1994342]

>>1993400
I tried to think of the fatpads between the pelvis and the ribcage to show the stretch and compression, I hope it is convincing enough?

>>1994303

[Anonymous No.1994350]

>>1994318
Yes, it sticks out like a sore thump now when you say it. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.1994355]

>>1993292
Shooped models are less than ideal for reference.

[Anonymous No.1994358]

>>1994355
Her anatomy isn't shooped

[Anonymous No.1994359]

>>1994322
Really like it :D (saved) I would recommend next time working on your far background and make it lighter and bluer as if the atmosphere is occluding it slightly.
And also the brush strokes in the sky are a little distracting.

But apart from that awesome :D

[Anonymous No.1994369]

>>1994322
Looks great! Some clouds closer to the foreground would help a little. The red forest(?) behind him matches his belt and tattoo, which is not ideal; some depth is lost there.

[Anonymous No.1994375]

>>1994322
i think textured brushes really takes away from this. smooth gradients and hard brushes would've done this more justice than whatever it is you used. and its been said but the values on this aren't great and the colors themselves are very washed out and drab.

[Anonymous No.1994395]

Are the back of the thighs mostly flat?

[Anonymous No.1994412]

>>1994395
god i fucking hate women

[Anonymous No.1994422]

>>1994395
Depends on the person and gender. It's usually fairly rounded though, especially near the ass where there is more muscle and fat. As you approach the knees you get less fat and the shape becomes more determined by the tendons so it takes on a more flat squarish form. Also keep in mind that in the example you posted their thighs are being distorted in shape since they are being pressed against a bar, so the shape does appear flatter than if they were standing.

[Anonymous No.1994428]

>>1994412
Slow down, nigga damn.
You wanna talk about it?

>>1994422
Fantastic observation Anon.
Ill keep it in my notes

[Anonymous No.1994433]

>>1993786
>can't wait to see the end product
>the picture is signed and obviously finished

every time

[Anonymous No.1994448]

>>1994020
His left chest needs a little more shade, it'll help that sleeve stick out like in the picture.

[Anonymous No.1994453]

>>1994395
watch twerking videos, gibes you a proper idea of where fat is stored

[Anonymous No.1994468]

>>1994453
>the wonderful mystery of black girls

Its very interesting, my race has developed suuuper early. I mean the females, they start growing hips and an ass before growing breasts.
Fascinating as taking pictures in a Savannah, watching the young females develop love for dick before they can even read, and men buying Jordans for no reason.

[Anonymous No.1994474]

>>1994468
oh mama

[Anonymous No.1994481]

>>1994474
Good taste

[Anonymous No.1994485]

>>1994468
>>1994481
my nigs

[Anonymous No.1994486]

I come from industrial design so drawing and defining forms with value is weird as fuck. the slightest hue difference can result in an entirely differently shaped face for example
still, this is my second serious attempt at a study and although i've cheated a couple of times with a quick photo overlay to check where my lines were I'm still quite happy with how it's going

should I just go and start studying books and shit if I want to get better at painting? I'm not sure how much I can learn from doing copies as the whole anatomical build up isn't there at all

[Anonymous No.1994493]

I fucking can't into coloring from grayscale, does anyone have any tips?

[Anonymous No.1994495]

Shitton of problems as it is, but I cannot for the life of me get the left index finger to work the way I want it. I have spent way too much on this as it is, and I would ditch it, but I want to use it for inking practice too. Halp

[Anonymous No.1994499]

Shitton of problems as it is, but I cannot for the life of me get the left index finger to work the way I want it. I have spent way too much on this as it is, and I would ditch it, but I want to use it for inking practice too. Halp

Other critique welcome too, but that finger is pissing me off.

[Anonymous No.1994504]

>>1994486
you made the forms a bit too round and soft. example: check that shadow on the tip of her nose. on the right photo it looks sharper, but on the left photo (your photo), it looks very round and fleshy.

also check the teeth

[Anonymous No.1994506]

>>1994504
still a wip, I've gone from big blobs to smaller and smaller so I guess i'll continue doing that
should I just use sharper brushes for detailing? I don't really know where to start with textures either

[Anonymous No.1994511]

>>1994506
after you fee like you can't do any more, and you feel that you've accurately lay out the shadows, forms, etc. then start to detail. you'll have to blow it up into a huge size

but first, fix the edges! edges are all too soft

[Anonymous No.1994515]

>>1994493
Better to paint in colour than to try to add colour to greyscale. That being said, the reason yours looks so wrong is that the values are way too light so it can't add very much colour to it.

[Anonymous No.1994587]

Having a rough time with the pelvis. Guess that just comes with time.

Otherwise, just chugging along, looking at anatomical reference whenever I need it.
I might need to make the spine a bit smaller, I'm not too sure tho.

[Anonymous No.1994739]

Just a quick colour study, really fucked up the perspective though, oh well. Trying to be more efficient with texture and markmaking, but I dunno how well it's going.

>>1994587
Watch your proportions, the legs are a bit short. Pelvis is okay, but you should grab some reference. Peck's book helped me a lot with the pelvis, and he has it shown from tons of angles. The scapulas are not shown clearly either, I think the messy linework is causing some problems. Maybe just lower the opacity of everything and go over in a clean more accurate set of lines.

[Anonymous No.1994758]

>>1994066

I had a bit of time, this is where I'm at

[Anonymous No.1994767]

>>1994758
Nice but the values on the clouds/smoke doesn't make much sense. The bottoms are too dark, or the light parts are too light. Maybe try to find some reference.

[Anonymous No.1994786]

please help me. i would very much appreciate it! i've made a real mess of it.

[Anonymous No.1994825]

From todays studies. Each one about 30 min.

[Anonymous No.1994828]

>>1994493
What I've found to really help me is to colorize the grayscale to whatever brown undertone, and then bam it's suddenly not grayscale painting.

[FiRez !!tndrCZJHE+I No.1994835]

Bridgman hand studies.

[Anonymous No.1994892]

>>1993154
i think im gonna do another painting.

[Anonymous No.1994898]

>>1993154
A wip im doing for my art class

[Anonymous No.1994902]

>>1993154
A wip im doing for my art class, gonna eventually use gouache for color

[Anonymous No.1994906]

>>1993154
A wip im doing for my art class, gonna eventually use gouache for color

[Anonymous No.1994918]

>>1994906
Good start, but before you go to the next step you should fix the shape of his head.

[Anonymous No.1994919]

Feedback welcome

[Anonymous No.1994920]

>>1994919
oh man I really love the awkwardness of this
It looks like he was covered in oil and was now trying to remain still in an uncomfortable position.

The things I really don't like are his hair, face and ears.

[Anonymous No.1994923]

>>1994739
yah, perspective is visibly fucked up, i like the light game on the mid snow ground though
how long did it take you?

[Anonymous No.1994926]

>>1994923
Thanks. Dunno how long it took, I don't really time myself ever anymore. Not too long though since I get bored fast these days, so I'd guess at least an hour, maybe up to 2? Not sure really, that may be off.

[Anonymous No.1994936]

>>1994920
that's what i was going to say more or less. the awkward rendition suits the awkward pose.

[Anonymous No.1994943]

>>1994739

wonky perspective like you say but light and texture is absolutely beautiful. really good stuff.

[Anonymous No.1994949]

>>1994920
I appreciate the feedback, back to work!

[Anonymous No.1994979]

Currently working on a project due in two days. I plan on just doing color tomorrow, and fix values and composition (and everything else/ the basic ideas) tonight. Anyone?

[Anonymous No.1994980]

>>1994979
Oh yeah, forgot to mention that I'm using just Sai, because my main lappy with PS crapped out weeks ago. I feel like there's an obvious difference between that and PS, but I'm not gonna make any excuses. I'm just a terrible artist.

[Anonymous No.1994982]

>>1994979
I'd love to give feedback, but all I can tell so far is that there's a guy on a balcony with a flag.

[Anonymous No.1994985]

>>1994982
It's supposed to be the Storming of the Bastille during the French Revolution. I just used the guy as a foreground.

[Anonymous No.1994987]

>>1994982
well it's your fault if you cant recognize the bastille buddy, or your teachers fault anyway.

[Anonymous No.1994988]

>>1994985

oh boy. i hate painting scenes like that. incredibly hard to depict masses of tumultous people without rendering the crap out of tiny items. good luck anon. i would be very worried if i was you (and it was a paid job).

[Anonymous No.1994991]

>>1994988
Dude, I am extremely worried. It's pretty hard, and it doesn't help that I'm a bit out of practice with digital, and it's Sai ._.
Nah, it's just for school.

[Anonymous No.1994992]

[Anonymous No.1995001]

>>1994987
I'm just saying it's not completed enough to give any feedback. I'm sure once progress is made people will be able to tell that the rough collection of lines is the Bastille, but as it stands I can't tell if it's a construction project, a slummy apartment, or a castle.

[Anonymous No.1995011]

>>1993156
I like it, do a series of figures with elongated parts of their bodies. The rendering is fun to look at. I love it basically

[Anonymous No.1995086]

>>1993372
>>1993366
>>1993292
Those tits don't go with the body at all, fake tit's, all never understand why some women get them.

[Anonymous No.1995089]

Left side of this seems lacking. What do?

[Anonymous No.1995092]

>>1995089
pretty lady in a dress with a cocktail

[Anonymous No.1995093]

>>1995089
Move the square in the background towards right so the composition doesn't lean left so much.

[Anonymous No.1995094]

>>1995089
>>1995092
and maybe put her in the foreground to add more depth

[Anonymous No.1995095]

>>1995092
I was considering adding another person in. Thanks, might do.

>>1995093
I see, thank you

[Anonymous No.1995098]

>>1995093
Hold on, did you make a mistake on the directions?

[Anonymous No.1995131]

Pretty much one of the first works where after a while i havent left it unatended.

[Anonymous No.1995135]

>>1995131
HE

[Anonymous No.1995248]

>>1994992
You gotta /Todd/ it bro.
Chug it down

[Anonymous No.1995272]

[Anonymous No.1995295]

>>1994825
Your features on the girl are too large.
Her jaw is also way to big compared to her neck/skull.

It's as though her mouth and her chin belong on a different head.
If you want to keep the head, features, and neck size, change the jaw.
Otherwise, you'll have to make everything bigger in order to make it fit with the jaw and mouth.
Additionally, skulls are not perfect circles, especially when viewed from the side.

The dude is alright, though.

[Anonymous No.1995324]

>>1995295
Thanks! I noticed the dudes cranium is actually way too thin as well but maybe it's not as noticeable.

[Anonymous No.1995372]

>>1995295
nigga maybe dat bitch has a big ass face, naw what im sayin?

[Anonymous No.1995414]

8 posts over bump limit

>>1995412
>>1995412
>>1995412

[Anonymous No.1995782]

>>1993574
perspective is all whack. The anatomy looks great up till the lower back area and below where it all just looks way off.

[Anonymous No.1995849]