Improvement thread

[Anonymous No.1960916]

Thread to post side-by-side comparisons of your work, to get critique on your progress thus far.
Starting it off. top, 2013 (age 16). bottom, 2014, (age 17).

[Anonymous No.1960919]

>>1960916
>ITT people who get good at copying pictures instead of understanding the underlying structure and form.
>p-post your work fagit!!!

No, and keep fooling yourselves, keep inflating that ego.

[Anonymous No.1960920]

>>1960919
post your work, faggot.

[Anonymous No.1960923]

>>1960916
Good progress OP

>>1960919
fuck off

[Anonymous No.1960946]

>>1960919
This is honestly a big problem for me. I am at the point to where I can pretty much draw anything I'm looking at, but any sort of "creative" drawing my quality just nosedives. It's not that the form is bad or the colors are bad or anything, but everything just ends up looking "boring".

Guess I need to get out of my comfort zone some.

[Anonymous No.1960967]

>>1960946
post work

[Anonymous No.1961066]

1/4

Here is the first one in a little set of before and after pics. Been drawing almost every day from 2013 to now with some days a little more productive than others. I know for a fact I would be better than I am now if I got serious sooner. Didn't get serious until November of 2014.

[Anonymous No.1961067]

>>1961066

[Anonymous No.1961069]

>>1961067

[Anonymous No.1961075]

>>1961067
Last one for now.
Just want to clear something up about the renderings. I haven't actually done that many to get to where I am now. I've done a few cubes but not too many. Somewhere around 10 - 20 renderings. The spheres are the first 2 that I have ever done. The cylinders are also some of the first. Around 10 of these. I might update this thread with some cones later. And I also did about 5 with those.

The "after" renderings were done after I got Scott's How to Render book. He's also the only person that I've learned this from. The "before" ones were based from his gnomon dvd's but they weren't as in depth as the book is. Maybe that will convince anyone that is on the fence about buying it.

[Anonymous No.1961078]

>>1960916
you need to be 18 to post here

[Anonymous No.1961081]

I know, I know, I suck, make sure to tell my why so I can work on it.

[Anonymous No.1961103]

>>1961067
>>1961069
>>1961075

really great improvement anon! keep it up.

btw are you this guy ?

[Anonymous No.1961111]

>>1961103
Thanks. And no, not me.

[Anonymous No.1961121]

pose is still weird, but my style is so much better

[Anonymous No.1961126]

>>1961121
Whats wrong with the old style? Kinda prefer it.

[Anonymous No.1961134]

>>1961126

lines were too rigid and had no weight to them, im much happier in my new style regardless

[Anonymous No.1961136]

>>1961121
they basically look the same. i don't see improvement at all, sorry

[Anonymous No.1961138]

>>1961136
quit art, you're blind.

[Anonymous No.1961140]

>>1961136

its ok, i can personally see where i improved, its the little things

[Anonymous No.1961152]

>>1961075
Is the 'How to Render' book very good for non-beginners? I went through a bit of it (albeit non-thoroughly) and it seemed kind of 'eh'.

[Anonymous No.1961164]

>>1961152
I would say the book is good for people of all skill levels. If you're not a master of the subject then I recommend you give the book a thorough read.

[Anonymous No.1961236]

>>1961075
Share the knowledge you learned from that book with us
How did you make everything look so clean

[Anonymous No.1961245]

>>1961236
Soap and water, will usually clean things up well.

[Anonymous No.1961341]

>>1961121
great improvement .

I made this like, 10 minutes ago

[Anonymous No.1961367]

>>1961341
God, 2014 must of been a rough year for you.

[Anonymous No.1961761]

>>1961367
Yep that's true..

[Anonymous No.1961826]

You guys are doing all the same error. You don't spend time on your art, you just try to aim for a time limit speed record or something. You can all make a perfect piece, just spend 100 hours on it if necessary. How do you want to learn otherwise? Repeating the same errors over and over again? No. Also try to improve from still life like OP, not from a picture, from real objects. If you want to be able to draw landscapes, hoes and monsters you first have to learn about basics : so pick and simple objects and learn to draw them like a master.. then i promise you the rest of your drawings will be 10 times easier and more confident.

[Anonymous No.1961827]

>>1961826
Seconded

[Anonymous No.1961829]

>>1961075
A year and a half? What have you been doing man. I got from zero to that stage in 2 weeks...

[Anonymous No.1961840]

Eh, still sucks.

[Anonymous No.1961843]

>>1961840
lol'd

[Anonymous No.1961845]

>>1961843

At the art or the situation?

[Anonymous No.1961846]

>>1961845
both, kek

[Anonymous No.1961847]

>>1961846

well thats a 50% success then.

[Anonymous No.1961848]

>>1961847
saved for ylyl thread

dont worry im laughing w/ u on this, just keeping it friendly, oh and im gunna edit this "im gunna furin' mah laser" if u dont mind

[Anonymous No.1961850]

>>1961848

sure go ahead.

I wish I could re-do this one. Or inspire a better artist to do it for me.

[Anonymous No.1961852]

>>1961850
maybe i can, if i become a good artist, or let an artist i know about your art, id just like to know your screenname to credit u...
woah that sounds sketchy lol

[Anonymous No.1961859]

>>1961852
>lol
>u


Can you fuck off? Thanks. This board is 18+

[Anonymous No.1961863]

>>1961829
Let's see it.

[Anonymous No.1961865]

>>1961826
Any still life tips? I notice I start sinking in my chair after an hour of drawing it. So the picture plane will change at least 3 times while I'm working on it. I'd love to spent 20+ hours on a drawing but I am usual done with the critical form structure after 20-30 minutes. Then when it's paint time I end up finding errors in the structure anyway.

[Anonymous No.1961866]

>>1961859
oh no i forgot to say kek and fully spell out the word "you", fuck off 4chan expert I can say whatever the fuck I want, it doesnt determine how neither does it tell what age i am newfag

[Anonymous No.1961868]

>>1961859
I'm 29 and still say lol because video games. It's part of the vernacular now just accept it ;)

[Anonymous No.1961874]

>>1961868
this
and 4chan does not regard rules where you have to say "fag" or "kek" as a subsitute for lol

[Anonymous No.1961875]

13yo - 18yo
basically i hate my art more in 2015 than i did in 2010

[Anonymous No.1961885]

>>1961875
seems like your technique is bretty gud, but your faces are just so unappealing it doesn't even matter..

[Anonymous No.1961894]

>>1961885
techniques are good?

imo he should of shaded with colors instead of black and white, and the light sources in 2012 is completely off, and the angle of the faces are unrealistic

[Anonymous No.1961896]

>>1961875

Seems like you have a thing for drawing ugly women. Good technique, but jesus, those faces.

[Anonymous No.1961897]

>>1961863
Have you been only working on rendering basic forms for a year and a half? Or was this just a comparison of your rendering skills since you started?

[Anonymous No.1961900]

>>1961840
Nice improvement. You definitely discovered more and learned more. But dat face doe

[Anonymous No.1961904]

I started about 3 and a half months ago. I'm still lost as to how to go from greyscale to color without making the painting dead and cold. I've watched many tutorials before attempting. This was my first attempt at color. I want to be able to accurately go from greyscale to color first before going straight to color. Any pointers?

[Anonymous No.1961908]

>>1961894
>>1961885
trust me I realise how horribly I fucked up in all of the past versions. (and the current one)

[Anonymous No.1961909]

>>1961897
Read the description I wrote in the cylinders. I've only rendered these simple objects a few times. I've already moved on from there to more complex stuff.

[Anonymous No.1961911]

>>1961909
Oh shit. I thought youve been rendering those for a year and a half. Carry on m8

[Anonymous No.1961913]

>>1961829
No I'm a different anon. I want to see your 2 week improvement. Leave a paypal email because if I see significant improvement in two weeks I will give you 10 dollars.

[Anonymous No.1961919]

>>1961913
i already was mistaken m8 calm down. Tried to prove a point thinking that he was wasting time on just renderings and didn't do anything else for a year and a half lol. I didn't read his whole post. His rendering skills are sharp and precise. I'll still post my 2 week progress anyway.

[Anonymous No.1961958]

>>1961900

which face? I genuinely want to know

[Anonymous No.1961959]

Here's mine so far

[Anonymous No.1961960]

redid something from a character redesign thread a while back; just over a year ago.

[Anonymous No.1961963]

>>1961960
I remember that thread.

[Anonymous No.1961985]

>>1961958
The sith in the second picture has a hilarious grin.

[Anonymous No.1961989]

>>1961985

awe yeah, thanks :)

[Anonymous No.1961991]

>>1961919
You've improved a bit. But it looks like you already had some training. Keep up the good work anyway.

[Anonymous No.1962000]

>>1961121

Nice improvement, try not to hide/slack too much on the hands/feet tho.

[Anonymous No.1962014]

>>1961960
Are you squidapple?

[Anonymous No.1962020]

>>1961991
Started from ground zero m8

[Anonymous No.1962032]

>>1962014
lol i dunno, r u bearorange/

[Anonymous No.1962045]

>>1962032
http://squidapple.tumblr.com/ I meant this

[Anonymous No.1962051]

>draw anime shit as a 8 year old
>draw anime shit as a 16 year old
>draw anime shit as a 20something year old

Welp

[Anonymous No.1962061]

>>1962014
>>1962045
no i am not

[Anonymous No.1962065]

>>1962020
Everyone starts from ground zero.

By the way the rendering is the only improvement. And you didn't even render a sphere. Also perspective reading can use some adjustments otherwise yes nice improvement. Work on form. Your job isn't perfection. Your job is to fool me.

[Anonymous No.1962087]

>>1961904
Are you following a book or some series?

[Anonymous No.1962132]

>>1961904
Color is value.

[Anonymous No.1962145]

>>1962132
Colour is value, hue, and saturation actually.

[Anonymous No.1962150]

>>1962145
*value, temperature and intensity