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http://3d.about.com/od/Creating-3D-The-CG-Pipeline/tp/50-Artists-Past-And-Present-Who-Work-In-Film-Games-And-Animation.htm

Noah Bradley on this top 12 worldwide Concept Design / 2D artists???????? This must stop now.

>> No.1956465

>>1956443

lol. just lol.

>> No.1956469

>>1956443
>This must stop now
lol @ this. you really sound like a whiny 12 year old girl.

>> No.1956470

>>1956443
>this much need to pander
Ahahahahaahaha is he really trying to paint like ruanjia/linran now? What a pathetic failure.

>> No.1956473

>>1956443
well at least here's one "pro" that /ic/ is really better than!

>> No.1956476

>>1956443
>Dave Rapoza: Character artist with rendering skills right up there with Frazetta himself

lol. you can just tell whoever made that list has no fucking clue what he's talking about.

>> No.1956484

>>1956443
It's a personal list of some random faggot, who the fuck cares? Do you also get mad at video game or movie top 10 lists that you disagree with?

>> No.1956489

>2. Concept Design / 2D Aritsts
>Aritsts

also who takes this fucking list seriously, honestly.

>> No.1956491

>>1956484
yes of course we fuckin do,

jack gyganhall snub anyone?

>> No.1956501

>>1956484

when georgio gimenez, the plumber who plays candy crush on the weekends, makes a list about some nieche industry activity, ofcourse you get mad. who the fuck gives him the right???

i don't walk aorund making lists about the top 10 heart-surgery instrument designers, because i have no fucking clue about that shit.

>> No.1956516

>>1956501
The person who wrote that article is a 3D modeler and studied digital art so clearly he has an interest in that industry which makes him entirely entitled to make his own, shitty top ten list. Unlike you, apparently he even worked in it. His list is shit, but it's the exact same as some random youtube let's player making an end of the year top 10 list. If you get mad at some subjective, personal opinion top ten lists, you are literally autistic.

Here's my top ten most autistic posters on /ic/ list:

1. Chunbum
2. Illastrat
3. You
4. The guy who thinks Merc_wip is hilarious and uses it any opportunity he gets
5. Deathelm
6. That one guy who always writes "perspective is fucked"
7. The Jaime Jones fanboy who draws triangles and weird ass grids over Jaime's paintings
8. Lefty
9. The guy who keeps making "is (...) cheating?" threads
10. That one faggot who always tries to start shit by writing >digital "art"

>> No.1956520

>>1956516

fuck you. not one mention of me. a simple 'you' isn't gonna cut it anon. i demand some recognition.

>> No.1956521

>>1956516
I guess you reserved 0 for yourself.

>> No.1956523

>>1956516
Those guys you mentioned, do they nick the same elsewhere too or where can I see their stuff? And merc_wip?

>> No.1956524

>>1956516
i do like 6 of those things semi-regularly, but it's not me all the time, so there must be lots of dudes working as one, now that's "art."

>> No.1956527

>>1956516
Oi m8 my collabs with feng zhu are the shit!

>> No.1956530

>>1956520
This.

Also is Noah Bradley the Loius CK of art?

>> No.1956539

>>1956516

That is actually a really good list

>> No.1956542

>>1956530
>Also is Noah Bradley the Loius CK of art?

Louis CK is hard-working and respected by his peers. Noah Bradley is not hard-working, as evinced by his terrible art and him traveling all the time, and is not respected by anyone who knows anything about art.

>> No.1956545

>>1956542
Why are you speaking down to 12th best in the industry? You are like the people who hate on Wojtek Fus for doing something wrong just that one time

>> No.1956551

>>1956530

what? loius ck is fucking awesome, get out of here.

>> No.1956555

>>1956551
yea but he's a cuck

>> No.1956561

>>1956555

dafuq is a cuck??

>> No.1956613

>>1956561
It's a netorare

or weeaboo dane cook

>> No.1956683

>>1956561
cuckold
New super epic meme all cool kids use

>> No.1956754

>>1956555
this shit from /tv/ is actually infesting other boards.
and yes, I know cuck is the big thing, but to call Louie CK a cuck just because he's getting mentioned.... that's very /tv/ of you.
you should stay on that board you piece of shit.
go jack off to little girl feet.

>> No.1956823

>based NB hate thread

ah. Needed to stock up on my /ic/ brand salt.

in other news, his personal project, The Sin of Man, is shaping up to be baller as fuck. Surprised there's not a movie in the works over it yet.

>> No.1956827

>>1956823

Every time I see someone who actually likes Noah's work, a sick part of me really wants to see what THEIR work looks like. It must be unspeakable.

And no, no one is going to make a movie about Noah Bradley's muddy rock paintings.

>> No.1956831

>>1956754
no his really is a cuck, he did a whole bit about it.

that's where it came from.

>> No.1956837

>>1956827
the worst thing is that he's a shitty person too. he's like the embodiment of an antiparable.

"Hey kids, you can be mediocre as fuck and still be pretty successful, all you have to do is be jake gyllenhaal's character in nightcrawler!"

>> No.1956841

>>1956827

Did I say stock up? because I could open a business with the salt mine this thread is becoming.

>muddy rock paintings

funny how these "muddy rock paintings" will be 100x better than any shit you'll ever paint. topkel

>> No.1956856

>>1956823

hahahaha fuck off noah.

>> No.1956858

>>1956841
>funny how these "muddy rock paintings" will be 100x better than any shit you'll ever paint.

are you sure? You don't know who I am. Not everyone on here is a hopeless noobie who dreams of enrolling in Noah's Art Camp like you.

>> No.1956865

>>1956858

post art then if you're not a cowardly little gayboi

>he won't
>he just shittalks from the anonymous sidelines

>> No.1956880

>>1956865

>says the guy shittalking anonymously without posting work

>> No.1956885

>>1956880
>says the guy shittalking others work without posting his own

I mean, NB is so bad right, surely even a doodle from your sketchbook will trump his muddy rock paintings. Why are you hiding for? Hey stop running come back

>> No.1956893

>>1956885

I'll show you mine if you show me yours.

Hey stop running come back

>> No.1956894

>>1956885
Not the guy you were talking to, but does >>1956443 look good to you?

Whenever we have portrait study threads, there are at least a dozen of people who are better than that. Even most of the shit tier beginners won't fuck up eyes this badly.

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1956898

>>1956823
Stay salty nigga

>> No.1956900

>>1956893

I'm not the one that barged into the thread with a bitter shitter rampage about how much NB's art sucked, it's cute how far you're going to avoid showing work though.

>he can't even top le muddy rocks

Wow, Really?

So this really is like every other salty "let's gang up and tear down [insert successful artist] because my ass is sore!" thread. /ic/ is a adorable in that failing art student who tries to critique his superiors way.

>> No.1956904

>>1956898
those eyebrows.. y

>> No.1956914

>>1956900

>I'm not the one that barged into the thread with a bitter shitter rampage about how much NB's art sucked

Nigger, that's what this thread is about. Did you read the first post? It's a Noah Bradley hate thread. We have like 3 of these a week.

You must be new here.

>it's cute how far you're going to avoid showing work though.

I just said I would if you did. But you're not going to, so shush.

>> No.1956918

>>1956914
>I just said I would if you did. But you're not going to, so shush.

This guy has been being a retard all morning.

>> No.1956952

>>1956918
>been being
pot calling the kettle black

>> No.1956955

>>1956952
>bringing race into things

It's 2015 dude.

>> No.1956980

>>1956955

>assuming xi's a dude

Why don't you drop your phallocentric, gender-binary, heteronormativism and get with the times, cis-scum shitlord.

>> No.1956988

>>1956952
>minor grammatical errors
>retard
Good to know I am in the majority.

>> No.1956991

>cuck
>salt
>soggy knees
>cis scum
Did I stumble into /v/?

>> No.1957011
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1957011

>Environment artist with a knack for dramatic lighting.

>> No.1957020
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LITTLE WHITE DICKS

>> No.1957038

>>1957011

one thing I've noticed is that he seems to hide a lack of detail with these "whimsical" lines and effects. I see it in almost every painting he does.

>> No.1957056

>>1956443
Madfags gonna mad.

>> No.1957124

>>1956516
Don't forget Brian(/ic/)

>> No.1957306

>>1956516
>The Jaime Jones fanboy who draws triangles and weird ass grids over Jaime's paintings
My sides

>> No.1957512

>>1957011
Wizards seriously approve this kind of garbage these days?

>> No.1957520

>>1957512

post work.

>> No.1957532

>>1957011
Someone redline the statues proportions. I'm too lazy.

>> No.1958243

>>1957532
Bump
I need to see this too

>> No.1958256

Noah's actually a pretty chill dude...
You can easily tell from any of his interviews..
The level Up! One is pretty recent..

Not sure why /ic/ hates him so much.. most likely Jel.

>> No.1958263

>>1958256

this. TSOM is also looking very exciting, hyped to see where he goes with it

>> No.1958264

>>1957520

Are you implying you think that's a good image?

>> No.1958269

>>1958264
I think he was implying that /ic/ can't do any better so they have to be moody booties about it.

Same thing with the redline...You can draw weird ass lines all over a (successful) persons work but I doubt you could actually paint that image...lol

>> No.1958270

>>1958256
>Noah's actually a pretty chill dude...
>You can easily tell from any of his interviews..
>The level Up! One is pretty recent..

That Level Up interview annoyed me. About 10 times, he mentioned to the Pollacks how they were "finally" inviting him for an interview, as though his turn on the podcast was way overdue. Like, he really thinks he deserves to get on there and lecture with the likes of Maciej and Feng Zhu and the other industry veterans they talk to. And then he painted some grey rocks against a grey rock background, lol.

Noah seems very full of himself to me. You can see it in those weird selfies he's always posting of himself, or in the way he replies to people in his self-aggrandizing Reddit threads, or in the way he apparently acted at the MB workshop that made everyone think he was a huge douche.

I don't know where you're getting the impression that he's a chill, cool dude. He seems like a prick to me. I'd say that even if I thought his art was good.

>> No.1958271

>>1958269

Are you that same guy who was demanding that other people post their work earlier and then disappeared when they asked you to post yours first?

That image sucks. It's /ic/ drawthread quality. It's amazing that it got past WotC quality control.

>> No.1958276

>>1958271
>wow this art sucks epic dick lol amirite /loomis/!?
>hey if it sucks so much post your own work it's probably ten times better right?
>HAH, LOL, LEL, POST YOUR OWN BRAH, MAYBE ILL POST MINE KEKE, SMEL

I'm not posting work because I'm not the preening faggot who makes threads to display his seething jealousy to everyone.

>> No.1958282

>>1958271
>that image sucks

Says the anonymous poster on /ic/, meanwhile, Wizards of The Coast thought highly enough of it to use it as promotional material.

I'm going to trust Wizards on this one friend, sorry.

>> No.1958330

>>1958282

Hahaha... ok. If you want to think that >>1957011 is great art, I wish you the best. You're gonna need it.

>> No.1958334

>>1958330
he didn't say it's great, he said it's better than yours.

>> No.1958338
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1958338

>>1958256
It's a well known fact that Noah's a douchebag.

>> No.1958339

>>1958338
it's hearsay.
besides, maybe we should make a scandal out of the things you do while intoxicated.

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1958343

>>1958338
Oh is that what this is referring to?

>> No.1958345

>>1958276
>>1958282

Just goes to show that the people who are fans of Noah's work are the noobies who really can't tell good work from bad.

>> No.1958346

>>1958339

Jesus Christ crawl out of NB's ass.

Have some dignity. It's hard to even understand you with all the slurping you're doing on his cock.

>> No.1958354

>>1958338
Is that it though ? :/ Pinch some girl's ass and forever an asshole?.. Meh... I didn't know about it but still..

>> No.1958358

>>1958338
>>1958339
>>1958354

You all know that image is a meme, right? X does Y to your gf, what do?

>> No.1958361

>>1958358
Nope.. was wondering why Google wasn't giving any hits on "Noah Bradley Pinches Girl's Ass"

>> No.1958362

>>1958270
yea, he just likes to suck his own dick too much
Like seriously he's barely out of DYEL mode with like 16% bodyfat yet he wears shirts 2x too small for him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an9Rzgrzwtk
Also notice how he positioned himself for the video, definitely on purpose, fucking faggot

There was this one time he posted a work on facebook of this nude lady standing on a rock or some shit in the sea and the anatomy was all sorts of fucked up, there were comments pointing it out for him

Then he deleted it coz he was butthurt then made an excuse that he got banned for 24 hours, even though he literally posted something about "hurr durr dont critique muh artwork" right after he deleted it....such a faggot god damn

>> No.1958367

>>1958362
That last part does sound shady as fuck, but I really can't picture him doing that... I watched a lot of his videos and some of it helped me out a bit with some decisions, like not signing up for 50k of Debt.

>> No.1958368

>>1958358

Yeah, that's a meme, but the guy that made that didn't just stick Noah in for no reason. He pretty famously made an ass out of himself at a workshop, acting like he was a big-shot art rockstar and hitting on some girl right in front of the guy she was with.

Noah's a douche-canoe.

>> No.1958370

>>1958367
Well he has a massive ego so it does seem like something he'd do

>> No.1958371

>>1958362
looks like Proko plus facial hair

>> No.1958372

>>1958368
>He pretty famously made an ass out of himself at a workshop, acting like he was a big-shot art rockstar and hitting on some girl right in front of the guy she was with.

I read about this on another thread ages ago, was this posted anywhere else? lol

>> No.1958389

>>1956443
Did Noah do this

>> No.1958400

>>1956516
>(you)
Does this look like encyclopedia dramatica to you faggit?

>> No.1958405

>>1958362
i was seriously 14 days out of posting on 4chan.

what compelled me to take a peak ended up in 4 hours of reading /ic/ shitposting.

i hate myself.

>> No.1958430

>>1958405
Hey Noah.

>> No.1958451

>>1958389
Yes.

>> No.1958733

>>1958339
It's been confirmed by two people I know who went to the event.

>> No.1958739

>>1958282
>I'm going to trust Wizards on this one friend, sorry.

You need other people to tell you whether or not something looks bad? Do you have no eyes and brain of your own? I mean, the guy you were replying to might very well be worse than Noah, but that doesn't somehow make that terrible painting any better.

>> No.1958799

>>1956516
you forgot the retard who uses ms paint and doesn't follow any kind of logic or advice

>> No.1959839

Noah's not terrible and he shares what he knows to the public and his classes are reasonably priced. The guy's an enviro painter and you're surprised his portrait skills aren't that great? It's not even that bad of a painting he just fudged on the far features a bit.

>> No.1959844
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>>1959839
Nathan Fowkes is primarely an environment painter too.

>> No.1959850
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>>1959844
That's a good point and I'm not trying to defend that he lacks in portraiture but 1) Nathan Fowkes is on a whole different level. The dude has had more experience in the industry (has obviously spent more time doing portraiture) and is honestly just over-powered territory. You're almost comparing an apple to an apple tree. And 2) Noah still churns out work, more than most of us do and he does decent enough to get commissioned by Wizard to do environment paintings.

We like to pick on some of these guys for not being the greatest ever, Noah, Algen, Feng Zhu, etc. but what do we have to show for it? I understand the critiques given can be valid but we wail on these guys like no tomorrow. Cut them some slack and maybe we should focus on our own work more and look at the positives of their work instead of bickering on, frankly, minor shit in comparison to what their work is known for and what they obviously do exceed in.

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1959860

Reminder

>> No.1959866

>>1959860
Surprise he uses references?

>> No.1959869
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1959869

>>1959866
Pretty sure using reference and tracing are two seperate thigns. Although, seeing what happens when he tries to deviate from the trace, maybe he should stick to it.

>> No.1959872

>>1959850
I generally agree with you and I personally always get annoyed when some jealous faggots hate on successful artists who are good, yet not great at what they do. Noah however is flat out bad. Algen and Feng are way better than Noah is. when people hate on those guys, it's stupid because they are genuinely good at certain aspects of the game. Noah however is not. His rocky landscapes are just as bad as his portraits and the work he does for WotC, at least what I have seen so far, is laughably bad.

>> No.1959873

>>1959869
I dunno if he was tracing man.

>> No.1959874

>>1959866
It's not a reference when you copy-paste the photo itself and paint over it. You aren't referencing anything at that point.

>> No.1959879

>>1959860
oh man, the facepalm levels are tremendous in this img.. noah never stops to embarass himself, as we speak, he is probably jerking off to his own reflection in the mirror

don't stop posting more juicy details about him, this thread is win so far

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1959881

>>1959872
I think people mostly hate on Feng because he's an asshole. But also because his work is incredibly bland. Never understood why people hate on Algen, though.

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Another epic piece of his critically acclaimed "the sin of man" series.

>> No.1959890

>>1959881
Wow what the actual fuck...

>> No.1959905

>>1959889
I think he is actually regressing. His older rocks were a bit better, characters as terrible as always.

>> No.1959909

>>1959890
I actually did some googling...
It's very hard to tell whether or not this actually happend ... since the only proof is stuff from IC but holy fuck

>>/ic/thread/1669848#p1670911

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1959910

>>1959909
The proof is from all the people who got the message on facebook, the fact that Long backed it up, how tons and tons of people left drawcrowd (which at the time was the only major alternative to CGhub), it was also brought up on the one fantastic week podcast, etc.

>> No.1959913

>>1959910
> it was also brought up on the one fantastic week podcast

Where?

>> No.1959916

>>1959913
Forget which episode. Presumably one uploaded in march 2014.

>> No.1959925

>>1959916
On what podcast anon

>> No.1959926

>>1959916
>>1959925
Nvm, apparently there actually is a podcast called "fantastic week", kek.

>> No.1959930

>>1959889
dat leaf brush

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>>1959910
>>1957020
>>1958338
Dam I wish I could wear a tight ass shirt like these sexy ass niggaz. I got flappy moobs. Even Miles can DL 500 lbs.

>> No.1959998

>>1959889

mfw this picture had 4,000+ upvotes on Reddit last night, and people in the comments were complimenting Noah on "nailing the human anatomy".

I'm glad I have you guys, /ic/, to share my rustled jimmies with.

>> No.1960004

>>1959998
That's the problem with laymen: they're easily impressed and it can get to your head. That's why a lot of high school kids think they're hot shit, because the people around them don't know any better.

On the plus side if they think something is wrong with your pic that means you REALLY fucked something up. What they assess as the problem is rarely right, but they're right in that there is a problem.

>/tangent

>> No.1960008

>>1959998

I wonder how many jobs Noah actually gets from those Reddit posts he's always making. I suspect it's very few. Seems like the only client he works for is Wizards on MTG.

>> No.1960021

>>1956443
sry dont have time to read all this shit im omw getting gud

>> No.1960023

Reddit sure has good taste though.. Case in point /u/Shittywatercolor being one of their favorite artists..

What the fuck it's in his fucking name.

>> No.1960025

>Feng Zhu
stopped reading there lol

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>>1960023
the irony is that hes actually a good artist now because he just accepted he was shit, and kept painting.

I admit it. I like shittywatercolor. I like Jaime Jones as well. I like anything really. Even old Asian shit. There's a lot of stuff worth studying.

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1960039

>>1960008
How WotC still give him work is completely beyond me. This is the latest card illustration he posted. I mean, regardless of his low skill level, he clearly doesn't put any effort into this stuff and half-asses it like crazy. This looks like a bad 30 minute speedpainting, not a paid card illustration.

>> No.1960048

>>1960039

I dunno dude, you're just some random anon, and WoTC is a big company, so that must actually be really good work, and you're just too blind and jelly to see how good it is.

/sarcasm

>> No.1960049

>>1960029
I honestly Don't understand his art.. to me it's like if the guy who wrote SMBC suddenly took out all the words in his comics and said "This is art now" ... I love SMBC.. but I wouldn't read it anymore..

>> No.1960064

>>1960039
damn i don't wanna get involved with bashing noah, but i think i can do better than that.... yeesh

before you guys say "post urs then"

noah's is good lots of basic fundamental stuff covered in that pic, but it's completely uninspired... It's just an example, no desire to blow us away, just uniform, boring shapes, boring basic comp, i didn't even see the dragon until my screen scrolled accidentally.

If he pushed this a little more this MIGHT be really great. But he signed it and said "good enough"

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>>1960049
It's just cutesy and looks like a children's book. It's nice and makes me feel warm. It looks like he's trying to improve, and it's working because he's maintaining the aesthetic.

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>>1960039
He must be a pleasure to work with from the Art Director's standpoint.

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>>1960049
He clearly takes inspiration from people like Quentin Blake, and that's an aesthetic on children's book covers that a lot of people grew up with. It's familiar, but still unique, and it definitely has some charm to it. I can see why it would be used for editorials, book covers, etc.

>> No.1960084

>>1960064
>noah's is good lots of basic fundamental stuff covered in that pic

I disagree 100%. Noah ISN'T fundamentally good; that's a big part of the problem. He can't draw for shit; his figures especially are horrendous. His colors are muddy. His value structure is just flat bad.

The other big problem is what you mentioned: he just easy-modes everything. 98% of his work is just pictures of rocks, which are the easiest thing to paint ever, and he still paints them poorly, they're uniformly smudgy, muddy blobs. That pic above is just a few square rocks stacked into the distance, a mind-numbingly boring round hill in the foreground with grass, and some muddy nonsense in the midground that might be sand dunes or a city or something, but it's all so smudgy that it's impossible to tell. Clouds are unreferenced, generic blobs, and, weirdly, there's more texture in the clouds than in most of the rest of the picture. There's no focal point at all; there's no 'payoff' to the image. It's not a fundamentally strong image by any means.

It really does look like that anon above said: like a bad, 30-minute sketch.

Inb4 someone says I'm just jealous of Noah. There are lots of bad painters; Noah is only annoying to me because he swaggers around acting like the baddest motherfucker in the art world, and because some terrible AD at Wizards keeps inexplicably giving him money to shit on their franchise.

>> No.1960089

>>1959881
Holy shit.. do you have a better source? This is huge.. it reminds me of what Jason Manley did to Brad Rigney.

Feng Zhu and Jason Manley are trully the top assholes of the artists in this industry.

>> No.1960091

>>1960078
That's what I think too, he meets deadlines and isn't a pain in the ass. That's two of three right there, most importantly the two least negotiable aspects.

Pain in the ass? Bad PR skills? No work for you, doesn't matter how good you are nobody wants to put up with your shit.

Can't meet deadlines? Always late and need extra time? What's the fucking point of hiring you then? The best painting in the world ain't worth shit if it can't make it to print.

Variable quality? Sometimes your painting is just kinda bad? Well, as long as you're amiable and meet deadlines an art director can work with that. Afterall, that's the one thing they can actually do something about.

>> No.1960092

>>1960084
i never tought i would agree so much with someone from ic..

>> No.1960094

>>1960084
>Noah is only annoying to me because he swaggers around acting like the baddest motherfucker in the art world

That's even less reason to be mad, especially if you know better. Who cares how he acts

>and because some terrible AD at Wizards keeps inexplicably giving him money to shit on their franchise.
> shit on their franchise.

I don't know you, or know your motives, but again, it doesn't matter if he gets work or not as far as your own success, there's literally no reason to be angry. You may not be jealous, but I'm thinking a lot of poster ITT are somewhat entitled.

>> No.1960095

>>1960078
Pretty sure Neil Gaiman invented this.
http://www.davidairey.com/neil-gaiman-uarts-commencement-speech/

there's videos all over.

>> No.1960097

>>1960089
They just get obsessed with the Guru thing. Women throw themselves at them. Men worship them, it's not exclusive to art. Joe Rogan talks about Yoga instructors and effeminate hipster guys. All you have to do is say, "Namaste" and their panties moisten up.

>> No.1960098

>>1960094

Well, it's not like I want to kill him or something. He just rustles my jimmies a bit.

>> No.1960101

>>1960084
He gets invited to speak at art schools, he has his fundamentals down. He did or used to do plein airs. He knows his shit. He just doesn't have the cutthroat I WANNA MAKE THIS THE BEST.

Otherwise I do agree.

>>1960091
>>1960078
yep exactly. If I was a clueless AD who was hired based on passion instead of merit, I'd hire Noah if I couldn't get the jaime jones clone.

>>1960094
he's got some good points in there. No need to call everyone entitled over some passionate posting.

>> No.1960102

>>1960097
what are you talking about? Go back to /x you skyzo shit

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>>1960102
I'm relating Manley/Zhu/Bradley to being art guru's. Have you ever seen or met a "guru" even a tech guru? They have glory day/fame success stories and feed off of it until the end.

Meet one of the videogame gurus. Except he had no public relationship skills. If he learned how to control his fame he would have been well respected.

>> No.1960114

>>1960078
Spending this little effort on your commissions is kind of rude towards the client. If I was an AD and i'd get some half assed 30 minute sketch while I was expecting a professional, finished illustration that the artist had over a week time to complete, I'd be very pissed and probably wouldn't hire him again.

>> No.1960124
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>>1960089
This was pretty big news last year. Feng went into damage-control mode on his fb page, the fanboys started sticking up for him etc. But a lot of people were already saying that Feng was shady and his school was a rip-off before this even came out.

>> No.1960125

>>1960101
>He gets invited to speak at art schools, he has his fundamentals down.

He also has his own online art school, so that must mean he's an amazing artist, right?

No, that's retarded. Why would you judge his competence by anything other than his work? Who gives a shit if he gets invited to speak at some podunk art school? Have you ever even been to art school? Most art teachers are shit artists.

>He did or used to do plein airs. He knows his shit.

Wow, he paints outside. That must mean he's a master.

Your criteria for judging artists is weird and dumb. Only work matters. Noah's work doesn't reflect strong fundamentals. Thus, Noah does not have strong fundamentals. It's really that simple.

>> No.1960128

>>1960114
According to Clint Cearley, they get about 3 weeks of time including a lot of back and forth. The AD sees and approves of the sketch, and requests changes along the way as needed.

You need to remember than these cards print fairly small. 1.5"x2.5" IIRC. The artist will paint stuff at a higher res and with more polish if it's going to be used for promotional purposes. If it's only appearing on a standard card the full res does often look a bit loose.

Take Noah's image >>1960039 and shrink it down to card size. It doesn't look bad. Not amazing, but not bad. This one for example is REALLY bad >>1957011, and it's the only one I'm really surprised about concerning his work for MTG. He's mostly hired to do environments, and most of the time he does them decent enough to satisfy the target audience. I wouldn't be surprised if Wizard hired him to do that statue one on a very tight deadline, knowing that he could deliver something in such a short turn-around.

>> No.1960142

>>1960089
>This is huge.
It really wasn't. Mauro's message reeks of manipulation and pettiness, and it's only a big deal if you already want to believe Feng is an asshole(aka 99% of /ic/, because they hate anyone who's successful).

Bottom line; Ben signed the contract, then decided he regretted it later. By his own admission. I find messages like his extremely suspect; I can only read "red flag" so many times before I become suspicious. Apparently he was smart enough to recognize these red flags, but not to act on them? I believe it's a sob story he manufactured to smear Feng/garner sympathy. Mark Andrew Smith wrote a similar message smearing Jame Stokoe, but apparently realized it was stupid to post something like that publicly and deleted it(probably because it could lead to a libel lawsuit).
>>1959909
Basically it's Ben's word vs Feng's word, and of the two, Feng acted more professional.

At the end of the day, /ic/ will believe anything negative about someone they don't like(read; is successful) no matter how shoddy or questionable the evidence.
>>1959910
>the fact that Long backed it up,
...who had motive to smear Feng as he was allegedly fired for sexual harassment.

>> No.1960184

>>1960098
Yeah I know, 4chan in general seems to go into histrionics fairly easily though.

>>1960101
You can be passionate about your opinion and still entitled. Whether or not Noah deserves to work is a non issue, but I'm sure there'll be more gossip threads no matter what I say. It just seems like a bunch of anons have decided he's a bad person and are inventing reasons not to like him.

>I heard he pinched a girl's ass at a party, I know a guy whose realted to the DJ who saw this.

>> No.1960189

>>1960142
Then why did he send it out as a PM, and only do so when drawcrowd was released?

>> No.1960304

>>1960089
Hey um... you got more info on Manley vs Rigney?..

>> No.1960315

>>1960125
anon, we can agree we aren't fans of his work. You cannot deny he knows his way around a brush.

He just precame once he figured it out. I'm aware of the art school thing, but he can still teach and motivate. That's his career now.

>> No.1960330

>>1960315

>You cannot deny he knows his way around a brush.

Not the guy you replied to, but what the fuck are you even trying to say? Noah does not have good fundamentals. That is a fact, not an opinion. He doesn't understand how color and light works, his values are weak and his drawing is terrible.

Can you honestly look at any image posted ITT and say it has strong fundamentals?

>> No.1960338

>>1960315
>anon, we can agree we aren't fans of his work. You cannot deny he knows his way around a brush.

I deny that categorically. I think I said so, like 5 times. I think Noah's work is bad, and he can't draw the figure well at all, and his paintings of rocks and blobby clouds are mushy and muddy.

>> No.1960339

>>1960304
Brad posted a journal entry on his deviantart page but looks like its gone now. Someone else probably has something saved on it. Basically boils down to Manley not paying artists for the video tutorials they did during conceptart/ TAD days. Backhanded stuff was said and legal trouble was started. It's related to the whole conceptart/TAD downfall.

>> No.1960342

>>1960330
>say it has strong fundamentals?
>strong

didn't say that just said he knows the fundamentals, didn't say he can display it. You guys all learned from people you all draw better than now. I think Noah has every right to teach, he knows what he has to do to get back in the game. But he's satisfied with what he's doing now. A summer of drawing trees and bushes outside opened his eyes to the possibilities. He settled at the ripe age of 25. It's sad.

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>>1960315

Here's an image that is sort of like the ones that Noah is trying and failing to pull off that I'd say has strong fundamentals. It's basically a painting of rocks with some colorful effects, like basically all of Noah's stuff. I didn't pick a Jaime Jones or a Mullins piece; this is just by some middling concept artist making a living doing competent work. This guy isn't an art superstar, but he knows his way around a brush.

I could do a detailed critique of all the ways that this blows Noah's stuff out of the water, but I don't think I need to. But look at the variation in shapes, the way the textures are variable and interesting instead of generic and all the same, how there's a clear focal area and cool negative shapes and coherent value massing and even a storytelling aspect and you can tell that the artist put thought into the image rather than rushing it off in easymode because he thinks he's hot shit.

This is an artist I'd say knows what he's doing, even though there are some things I don't love about the picture. I would not say Noah knows what he's doing.

>> No.1960364

>>1960357
This is what can be achieved once you are at Noah's level. Noah has to sit down shut up and do the work study study study. He knows the fundamentals. What are the fundamentals anon?

The fundamentals aren't drawing water/clouds/rocks. The fundamentals are line / shape / form / perspective / value / texture / overlap etc etc etc. So noah draws rocks, he can open the door to drawing clouds, drawing better rocks, drawing better clouds, attempting water, getting better at drawing figures. This is what fundamentals are about. He has this, he's not doing anything about it.

He works as a professional illustrator because he does have some ability. He teaches because he knows how to draw even on a basic level. A middling illustrator like you said, can also reach those ruan jia / mullins levels of painting with more research and challenging personal development. Isn't that what we always talk about?

>> No.1960368

>>1959889
Jesus fuck those rocks and mountains. That looks exactly like what I do. That's how you know it's bad. Those characters look like some disgusting dA tier amateur anime artist drew then. The composition is raping my eyes. It honestly hurts so much. Also
>I don't know how trees work.
Fuck I want to kill myself.

>> No.1960375

>>1960364

I personally conceptualize the fundamentals as drawing (blanket term for form, perspective, anatomy, and everything else that can be depicted with linework), value (everything to do with light that isn't color), color, and edges (though this one is a maybe imo), with composition emerging from the interplay of those. I wouldn't call "texture" a fundamental skill, necessarily, because you can make great paintings without worrying about it at all. A fundamental skill is something that is fundamental to any good picture. I'm not even sure what you mean when you say that "overlap" is a fundamental skill, unless by overlap you mean edges.

I think it's a very dubious assertion that painting rocks opens the door to getting better at figure drawing. Figure drawing requires studying anatomy, proportion, gesture, and a lot of other things. Painting rocks really doesn't improve any of those fundamental skills.

>He works as a professional illustrator because he does have some ability.

He works as a professional illustrator because people pay him money to make illustrations. There are a lot of very bad professional illustrators. You continually conflate ability with things other than an artist's work. Whether an artist gets money or gets asked to talk at an art school really has no bearing on their ability. Only their work is indicative of their ability.

>> No.1960377

>>1960368

That tree is particularly sad, because if you look closely, there's definitely some photobashing going on in there. Look at the branches buried in all the noise: those are photos.

And he still managed to turn it into a messy mass of noise. For shame, Noah.

>> No.1960378

>>1960364
>He works as a professional illustrator because he does have some ability.

By this logic wouldn't Damien Hirst be the best artist in history.

>> No.1960382

>>1959889
This is just sloppy. He's definitely regressing. Some of his past stuff (before he became reddit's slut and grew an ego) was actually consistently decent to a few good. This is below amateur now. How sad.

>> No.1960385

>>1956516
This is kind of off topic but I haven't been active here anymore for like 5 or 6 years - how did Lefty progress?

>> No.1960401

>>1960189
...kinda my point. He put it out there when it would potentially do the most damage, when Feng was starting a new venture, using a method that left Feng unaware of the fact that this information was being spread and thus unable to refute or rebut it. It's classic information control.

>> No.1960420

>>1959889

>returnofthemudgirls_directorscut.mp4

>> No.1960438

>>1959889

this is cool as fuck.

also
>hating on TSOM

Dude's creating his own Ip and all I can smell here is fucking jelly. Try reading up on some of his written lore before you cry about "muh muddy rocks". All you faggots crying about these nitpicked mistakes can all be easily chalked up to stylistic decisions that fit into the world he's created. Do your fucking homework.

>> No.1960443

>>1960438
So I guess that means all the shitty animu on dA is just "style" right?
8/10, I replied and am slightly disgruntled

>> No.1960455

Why does /ic/ hate Zhu now? Someone can explain?

>> No.1960460

>>1960438
>this is cool as fuck.
I uh...really? It's some girls sitting under a tree, man. It's not even really amazingly technically or anything, and it's a really static, boring image.
>Dude's creating his own Ip
And you know the biggest disappoint of that? It's not really that great.This is his big personal IP project and it's just kinda meh. That one in particular isn't anywhere near the best of his Sin of Man series, and definitely not among his best work. Is this, unconstrained by deadlines, and freed creatively, the best he can do? The series looks like more card illustrations, and not amazing ones.

Not even hating, I don't know or care if Noah's an asshole or not.

>> No.1960472
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>>1960375
I can talk about this for hours. But I'm gonna cut it off here. Have you seen the Asaro head? It's a rock cut into the shape of a human head. Anything drawn is simply thought of in form. If you can sculpt it linearly then you can tackle anything with more focus.

All I'm saying is that Bradley can draw rocks, but he can draw even better rocks now that he knows how to build them.

>> No.1960481

>>1960460

The problem is that you're just looking at the pictures without context, check out some of his writing about it, the stories are really creative and his prose is really fantastic.

>> No.1960498

>>1960481
>The problem is that you're just looking at the pictures without context,
They're presented that way. The Sin of Man website presents them as a series of images, and the prose and poetry is a separate(and by the way, the poem on the site? Also not amazing. And just going by the first few paragraphs, his prose is not great either. It's already grating on me.) thing in a different location. They aren't presented together at all. His prose isn't even linked to from the Sin of Man site.

And even so, again, this is his best work? If this is so important, why aren't these stronger, better images? I would think this, being his personal IP project, would be his strongest work and easily distinguishable as such. But it really isn't. It's extremely underwhelming, both individual images and the series as a whole.

>> No.1960501

>>1960438
>Try reading up on some of his written lore before you cry about "muh muddy rocks".

hahahaha. Would reading his "lore" make his paintings not suck?

I don't give a fuck about some book he's writing. I only care about the art. And it's terrible.

If I need to do "homework" to appreciate a piece of art, that art sucks. A good artist can tell you all the story you need to know in their painting itself. If you can't do that, you're not a good artist.

>> No.1960503

If I ever post a picture here on /ic/ and people start telling me it sucks, I'm definitely going to get buttmad and tell them they need to read the story I'm writing about it before they can judge it.

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>>1960501
although i agree with you that whoever the guy is sucks i do think sometimes you need to do your homework to appreciate a piece of art.

like for example once i saw a documentary suggesting that greek statues were just casts of actual people and not modelled. which is ridiculous if you're at all used to nudes, they aren't even all that naturalistic, they could practically be animu for all the resemblance to real people they have. but this guy, and apparently many other people were blind to this very obvious thing because they just hadn't bothered to do their homework, reading like one book on how these things are put together aesthetically would blow the theory away. no artist's eye required.

i mean tell me this could be cast off a real guy and i'll tell you to get back to your anatomy studies.

>> No.1960724

>>1960528
i must admit i got respect for you, you found a twisted logic in the dephts of your mind to convince yourself that Noah is good and that this sculpture has bad anatomy

I must aplause your blindness

>> No.1960750

>>1960438
He's a visual artist and he's trying to tell a story through paintings. The story these paintings tell is a group of anatomically fucked up, lifeless people stare at the sky in weird ass unnatural poses or walk through boring, rocky mudscapes. I suppose his ability to tell a story is even worse than his painting skills.

>> No.1960752

>>1956516
hahahah top kek. This guy knows whats up. cheers

>2015
>cheers

>> No.1960754

>>1956858
>Noah's Art Camp
When is art camp 3 coming? Serious question.

>> No.1960761

>>1960438
Stop shut posting, Noah. We know it's you.

>> No.1960771

>>1960754
Do you know if Art Camp 2 was hosted on youtube as well? Would like to see em'

>> No.1960941

>>1960023
He's an excellent illustrator, he makes fun, communicated pictures that are joyful to listen to. People on this sub are like the greasy-haired aspies who think music is about compositions that's are as complex as possible.

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>>1960481
>his prose is really fantastic.
https://medium.com/@noahbradley/paint-women-like-women-18ec54c0948e

>> No.1961054

>>1961034

Ugh. If it weren't enough that he's a terrible artist and a constant source of douche-chills, he's also a tumblr-level SJW.

Noah Bradley confirmed for worst person 2015

>> No.1961072

>>1961034
>all this delicious hypocrisy
Goddamn Noah, it's like you want people to think you're a joke.

>> No.1961076

>>1961034
I'm honestly surprised he didn't plug in his atrocious painting of that naked woman with the fucked shoulder and ocean. I would've thought it was satire if he did.

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>>1961034
>>1961076

>oiled up: check
>striking a random sexy pose without any purpose: check
>mindless woman with vapid stare: check
>no personality whatsoever: check

He was also clearly going for an idealized body type if it weren't for his ridiculously bad anatomy knowlede and drawing skills which make her look like a melting mutant.

How can one person be this much of a hypocrite?

>> No.1961165

>>1961162

Everything about this painting is... eeeeugh.

He literally felt good enough about this to post it online and that bothers me.

>> No.1961174

>>1961162
Wasn't he with his gf at the time? You telling me he couldn't get reference from her? Jesus christ man. How do you fuck this up so badly?

>> No.1961178

>>1961165
>He literally felt good enough about this to post it online and that bothers me.
No offense, but I can almost bet it's better than anything you've ever created art wise. Does everyone here think they're an art god or something? Lets get our egos in check here.

>> No.1961181

>>1961178
that's beside the point. he probably isn't as good as Noah, but Noah is a professional artist who gets paid by some important companies. One expects his work to reflect that, acknowledging that he failed to meet this expectation is fair, and is hardly the same as claiming one is better than the artist in question.

>> No.1961190

>>1961178
No offense, but I can almost bet that you won't even post your art to back that statement up.

And what exactly does that have to do with anything, this painting is demonstrably bad. It doesn't take a Rembrandt to know that.

So the question here is, are you ACTUALLY Noah Bradley? Do you need a bandaid for your ego?

Because I am Craig Mullins, nice to meet you Noah.

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>>1961178
Oh, forgot this little bit!

>> No.1961196

>>1961190
>No offense, but I can almost bet that you won't even post your art to back that statement up.

Everyone uses this to try and prove every point, but it's completely ignorant. I never made any stupid claim against an artist, so why do you assume I am flaunting my artistic abilities? It's good artwork, and you're nitpicking it, not me. So you must have amazing artwork if you think that piece is so bad he should feel ashamed for posting it. Your words, not mine.

>>1961194
Nice troll. I hope it helps your sorry ego.

>> No.1961198

>>1961178
>better than anything you've ever created art wise
Why is this the go-to defense for every criticism on this board? It doesn't take an art master to tell that amateur professionals shouldn't be making simple mistakes that anybody with a years worth of fundamentals knowledge can easily spot.

>> No.1961200

>>1961198
Because he thinks Noah should be ashamed for even posting it. It's all in the words.

For instance.

>waiter serves a meal, customer says it's bad and send it back
>waiter servers a meal, it is quite edible and better than any other food in the surrounding area
>customer says "you should feel ashamed for serving food like this"

Makes you think that second customer is probably a chef with much better food skills.

>> No.1961201

>>1961196
>Everyone uses this to try and prove every point
which was his fucking point. he was mocking your position, dipshit. you really can't see the anatomy flaws in the work? I guess I can only feel sorry for you.

>> No.1961207

>>1961201
Read, >>1961200

Also, in reply to you, I can see the anatomy flaws. No one is perfect. The piece is good otherwise. Now check your ego.

>> No.1961210

>>1961200
wut. it's more like
>waiter serves moldy bread
>"this bread has mold, you should be ashamed to serve this"
>IT'S NOT MOLD THERE IS NO MOLD. HOW WOULD YOU KNOW? ARE YOU A FUCKING CHEF?

>> No.1961212

>>1961210
this

>> No.1961213

>>1961207
>it's good other than the flaws
uh. ok.
and what's my ego got to do with this? I never claimed to be better than the artist, nor did I claim that he should be ashamed to post this work, just that it's flawed and you're defending him like you're his mother.

>> No.1961219

>>1961213
I'm defending him because this board is always overly critical of little things and instead of critiquing eachother to get better they wallow in their own filth and make potshots at artists that are light years ahead of them.

>> No.1961229

>>1961174
By thinking you're good enough to not need reference. Which Noah clearly does, an evidenced by his continued spate of work with really piss poor anatomy.
>>1961200
That's not what he said at all. He said that is bothered him that Noah felt good enough about it to post it online. Do you have reading comprehension issues? He didn't say "Noah should be ashamed," he commented on how he feels about Noah's standards(or more appropriately, the lack thereof).

And, are you implying that Noah is an especially good illustrator? You say better than anything in the area but among his peers Noah is really nothing special.
>>1961219
White knighting for him doesn't help, and will only make people like him less and/or assume you are him.

Noah's a big boy, he doesn't need you defending his honor on an anonymous message board.

>> No.1961239

>>1961207
>No one is perfect. The piece is good otherwise

You need to get your priorities checked for what makes a painting good.

You simply can't paint an image of a woman with the sole focus of the image being said woman, then fuck up EVERYTHING about her, from the pose to anatomy to facial features and then claim there is anything redeeming about that painting. I can see why beginners like you can easily be distracted by shiny rendering, but no one should have this pathetic standards for the drawing, the actual substance of an image.

>> No.1961244

>>1961229
I just find it funny. It's like a bunch of cripples sitting on a couch complaining about a football start who accidentally messed up a play on TV.

>> No.1961248

>>1961219
>because this board is always overly critical of little things

I actually agree with you on this. /ic/ often times is ridiculously critical of decent artists and nitpicks them to death. Noah however is not a decent artist. People aren't nitpicking, they aren't overly critical of little things, they are overly critical of big fucking fundamental things that he does horribly wrong.

>> No.1961250

>>1961244
And what's wrong with that? Does that make their sentiment any less true? No it doesn't.

>> No.1961251

>>1961244

not even close noah. plenty of us here are MILES ahead of you (funnily still shit, so just imagine how bad you are)

>> No.1961252

>>1961244
More like a college football "star" who never made it big because he has never made a decent play in his entire life, but makes a living thanks to fooling idiots into attending some motivational speaking seminars of his.

>> No.1961254

>>1961213

>This just in, local faggot claims that Noah Bradley is Light Years ahead of Craig Mullins!

There's only so much you can critique when you don't know where to even start. From her horrendously elongated and twisted clavicles to the weird placement of her neck being placed directly beneath her jaw like a damned lollipop, I really can't give a better line advice other than do more figures.

Now is that to say I'm a better artist? nope.
Noah's environments are pretty damn good in my opinion. However, if it takes someone as LOWLY as little ole' me to point out the obvious, then there is something that is clearly in need of refining.

Cheer up Noah.

>> No.1961259

Don't be so harsh. It's clear that anyone who doesn't do a large amount of practice sessions on the human body will be under par when it comes to painting the human body, but the environments are some of the most amazing pieces you've probably ever seen. To say that he's a bad artist is a bit silly honestly. You seem to be vastly underestimating his ability to paint environments. Maybe you should do a google image search for Noah Bradley to educate some of yourselves.

>> No.1961263

>>1961219
>potshots at artists that are light years ahead of them.

No. There are more than a few people here that are much better artists than Noah. They're not the majority, but they're around.

Just because this board is anonymous, don't assume that everyone is at your level. There are more than a few pros who lurk here, even if they don't look for critiques in drawthreads. I know because I talk to some of them and work with some of them. Noah is definitely not better than everyone on /ic/.

>> No.1961268

>>1961263
Show me one environment by any 4chan /ic/ artist that's better than Noah Bradley quality. I'll give you time. Post it whenever you're ready. Coming here once every month does not count. If they aren't active, or don't post here, they obviously don't count because nothing can be proven. God could browse this board, no one knows.

>> No.1961269

>>1961259
Are you serious? His environments are every bit as terrible as his figures.
Just look at >>1960039 and >>1959889 But he has an entire DA gallery full of equally shit tier environments.

I honestly can't imagine what the fuck must be wrong with your eyes if you genuinely believe this shit is "some of the most amazing pieces you've ever seen"

The only reason why you might think his environments are better than his figures is because he only paints rocks and clouds and those are very forgiving when it comes to drawing.

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>>1961269
YOU can't be serious. You vastly underestimate how hard it is to make decent looking art. You probably just started learning.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noah_Bradley

He has worked professionally as an artist for a big name company that is notoriously picky for choosing decent artists. He has a huge following for a reason.

Hm, where's your wikipedia page?

>> No.1961282

>>1961268
Maybe working professionals have enough foresight to know that associating themselves with /ic/ and 4chan in general is a bad idea?

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>>1961268
Tehmeh, duh. And before you go "hurr he doesn't post here anymore". He posted wips of that painting on /ic/ for weeks.

I've also seen many environments by anonymous posters who are leagues apart from Noah's crap, but I usually don't save work from /ic/ unless it is incredibly good, so I don't have those to post. Noah is really bad, /ic/ has plenty of mediocre - decent artists and Tehmeh and Catbib shit all over him.

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>>1961268
tehmeh
>Coming here once every month does not count
What an arbitrary restriction. The people that are good will post their art less frequently because:

a) they don't need much feedback on average

b) they're busy drawing and doing work under NDA that can't be shown here

and c) they could easily be commenting without posting their art or using a trip. It's an anonymous board.

>different anon btw

>> No.1961289

>>1961277

lol, watch the blood pressure noah

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>>1961277
Either you are Noah or you have absolutely no fucking taste whatsoever. Of course creating decent looking art is difficult. Doesn't mean we should worship Noah's shit art. Once he becomes decent, I will give him and his art the credit it deserves.

Until then, maybe you should broaden your horizon a bit and start looking at actual good environment artists for a change.

>> No.1961294

>>1961282

i promise you, nobody gives a shit.

>> No.1961295

>>1961284
>>1961283
First one is alright, second one not so much. To say those are higher than Noah Bradley quality is not exactly truthful. So he barely ever posts here, and this is the best example you can give? What is he, the less than 1% of good artists that post here? The first picture there is literally the one really Noah Bradley quality picture I could find by him. Everything else is very un-rendered and blocky or just not as well composed. Look, all I'm saying is that Noah Bradley is a professional artist, and even the best of the best from here don't really compare. Lets be realistic when we say he is "terrible" like how much ignorance can you spout?

>> No.1961297

>>1961294

Except for the person asking whether professionals or professional level artists come here or not.

I promise.

>> No.1961298

>>1961283

This has nowhere near the beautiful whimsy Noah's art has. It is at a clearly lower level than him skillwise.

Not saying it's not great, but it's nowhere near topping some of Noah's recent work.

>> No.1961302

>>1961259
>but the environments are some of the most amazing pieces you've probably ever seen
Really? Noah's environments are good, but they're not THAT good. Tell you what, my art folder contains 26,748 images and not a single one is from Noah.
>To say that he's a bad artist is a bit silly honestly.
He's not a bad artist, NOR is he a great artist. His work has a lot of flaws still, and it's really nothing all that amazing.
>>1961277
>He has worked professionally as an artist for a big name company that is notoriously picky for choosing decent artists.
Good for him. Maybe he's really personable and really fast and he gets work because he's well liked and doesn't miss his deadlines.
>You vastly underestimate how hard it is to make decent looking art.
So? Doesn't make the flaws in Noah's art suddenly vanish. Nor does his following, or my possible lack of wiki page. Seriously, google logical fallacy.
>>1961298
>This has nowhere near the beautiful whimsy Noah's art has.
I'm sorry, do you mean formulaic sameness? I have a game for you, go through Noah's gallery and take a shot for every landscape that features something large in the distance. You'll be dead before page four. Noah's got a pretty clear comfort zone he's stuck to, and it shows.

>> No.1961303

>>1961295

oh noah... you silly boy.

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>>1961277
Damn it Noah, learn to use some color. don't you get sick of always painting the same grey and brown dirt-scape? Don't get me wrong, I love rocks and clouds as much as the next guy, but you are really bad at it, which is pathetic considering it's the only thing you do.

>> No.1961306

>>1961298
I think it demonstrates more finesse in terms of composition and how the characters in the scene interact with one another.

Noah just paints tattooed guys standing around over-rendered clouds and rocks. Not very exciting or whimsical if you ask me.

>> No.1961307

>>1961298
Yeah, the fantasy element and fantasy like colors really sell his work for me. Tehmeh just looks like he is trying to imitate movies or real life a little too much and seems uninspired. Not that his work isn't beautiful in its own right, but it's much more the quality of someone who is just touching the surface.

>> No.1961310

>>1961304
>I don't like the subject matter so it's shit

protip: TSOM is set is a super bleak constant apocalyptic setting, it's sort of a fucking drab existence.

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>>1961304
Oh good, thanks for the information. Look, the pictures have already been made in a couple of seconds that took your useful advice into account, thanks!

>> No.1961312

>>1961295
> Look, all I'm saying is that Noah Bradley is a professional artist, and even the best of the best from here don't really compare.

Now you are just being silly, Noah. First of all, Tehmeh is a professional too and he probably makes more money than you do with client work. Secondly, your work is mediocre even for draw thread standards. The best of the best from here are worlds above you skill wise.

>> No.1961313

I dunno /ic/ Bashes Noah A lot. like a LOT
.. This guy is still young... and he has achieved a LOT for his age..

Best painter/artist/illustrator? Meh No one is the best..

Easily one of my top50.

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>>1961311
Using colors since 2012

>> No.1961315

>>1961313
He does, but /ic/ will bash on anyone successful.

That said, he's still not that great and wouldn't be in my own top 50.

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>>1961314
Oh man, the colors are everywhere!

>> No.1961317

>>1961311
>>1961314
>>1961316

>muh "muddy rocks and clouds" fags status
>not BTFO []
>BTFO [X]

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>>1961310
But I DO like the subject matter. You just suck at it, Noah.

The color thing was just a suggestion, you know, to change it up a bit. Dark and bleak is fine too, if it's actually done well.

>> No.1961320

>>1961317
>Protip:
Get a better monitor.

>> No.1961322

>>1961320
>noah's s-shit!
>you just can't tell because of your monitor!

Loving every Laugh

>> No.1961323

>>1961311
>>1961314
>>1961316
Those are indeed colors, jarring, ugly colors without any sense of color theory and understanding of how color and light actually works.

>> No.1961327

>>1961323

Getting desperate now

>> No.1961331

>>1961323
Just proving my point that you guys are ignorant and impossible to please. Nothing to see here.

>NOTHIN BUT BROWN
>OH GOD THE COLORS SO SATURATED

>> No.1961334

>>1961327

no you are noah. it's funny how you try to fight the truth.

>> No.1961338

>>1961327
See, they were calling me Noah a second ago. It's like Starwars attack of the Noah clones up in here. Anything to prove their point without hurting their wittle feelings.

>> No.1961343

>>1961327
Not that anon but those examples are all heavily saturated except for the eagles one. More than few are pretty jarring and more than little ugly.

By the way,not rebuttal that actually addressed the point brought up. No, seriously, if you can't even properly rebut what are we supposed to think but that you can't?

>> No.1961345

>>1961331
Why I admit I was wrong, he apparently has lots of colorful work as proven by you. He unfortunately sucks at colors just as much as he sucks at everything else.

>> No.1961346

>>1961338
Maybe you shouldn't be such a self-aggrandizing samefag, Noah.

>> No.1961347

>>1961343
Those were all done 3+ years ago. Just proving some points.

>> No.1961349

>>1961338
It's pretty obvious at this point that Noah and a handful of his little art-camp minions are posting ITT. Whether you are Noah or one of his deluded reddit followers is kind of hard to tell, so yeah, you are all Noah for now.

>> No.1961350

>>1961311
>this is over-saturated
>despite the artist being notorious for only ever in his entire life painting muddy brown rocks
>>1961304
but this isn't

nah you guys are just jealous fucking haters

>> No.1961354

>>1961349
>this delusion

Get a fucking grip dude.

Maybe it's just that seeing "let's viciously tear down [X]!" threads here is really disgusting and pathetic. Shouldn't you fags be drawing instead of putting your jealousy on display like glorious preening peacocks?

>> No.1961355

>>1961349
>implying that /ic/ isn't just Noah having a schizophrenic episode

>YOU'LL NEVER BE A GOOD ARTIST NOAH! NEVER!

NO! THAT IS NOT TRUE!

>YES IT IS NOAH, YOUR ANATOMY SUCKS. EVERYTHING YOU DO SUCKS AND YOU'LL NEVER GET BETTER! YOU'RE A BAD ARTIST NOAH!

No!

>YES!

NO!

>YESSSSSSSssss!

>> No.1961357

>>1961354
You know, the funny thing is I usually would agree with you. I absolutely hate these type of threads where /ic/ shits on decent artists out of jealousy. In Noah's case however, I can 100% assure you that I don't feel even a fraction of jealousy towards his work. I honestly, genuinely and completely do not consider Noah Bradley to be even a mediocre artist. When /ic/ shits on the likes of Algenpfleger, Feng, Dave Rapoza or even someone like Sakimichan or Kronprinz, I tend to defend these artists, because they are at the very least decent at what they do. Noah is not.

>> No.1961359

>>1961354
>>1961357

This sounds familiar.

Just to let you guys know, Justin Beiber makes good music. You're all just jealous because he's handsome, is talented, and has a lot of money.

>> No.1961360

>>1961350
There's this thing called context, right? A bright color next to likewise bright colors doesn't appear as saturated as a bright color next o dark colors, see>>1961314
Now while the eagles on is probably one of his better works, he's still putting bright colors on a dark background, making them appear more saturated. In truth the actual saturation in pretty close between the two images, but the relationships of the colors to each other makes one appear more saturated than the other.

This is like color 101.
>>1961355
Oh my god, that would be hilarious. Sadly not the case but I like the way you think, you seem fun.

>> No.1961361

>>1961357
Because you prefer their subject matter more. They mostly draw humans and girl faces. Sounds like a case of

>The things he creates are not my interest
>So his art sucks
>FengZu photobashing master, amazing landscapes kekeke

>> No.1961363

>>1961259
>>1961277

Hooooly fuck. I can sort of understand the people who say Noah isn't terrible: they're amateurs and they haven't developed the ability to tell good work from bad yet. I used to be there; I get it.

But saying that Noah's work is "the most amazing work you've probably ever seen"? That's amazing. I don't even know what to say to that. Either you're trolling hard, or you are literally Noah himself, or his mom. There's just no other excuse for that level of delusion.

>> No.1961365

>>1961298
>the beautiful whimsy Noah's art has

Ahahahaha, this is why I come to this board. That just made my day.

>> No.1961366

>>1961359

Well, Noah is quite easy on the eyes.

>> No.1961368

>>1961363

Some of his stuff is really great, you have to be blinded by pure malicious hate of him or just a really bad case of the jellybellies to not be able to see it, and I pity you for that.

>> No.1961371

>>1961368
>Some of his stuff is really great,
Post some then.

>> No.1961372

>>1961363
Oh god, you can practically feel the hatred and edge seething out of your pores. How much bitterness does it take to create a being like this? Please, relax and remember that are can be fun, no matter how much of a hard time you're having making it.

>> No.1961374

>>1961368
>Some of his stuff is really great

Tell me honestly: how long have you been drawing? You don't have to post any work, just tell me how many years of serious practice you have under your belt.

No one who has achieved any progress as an artist thinks that Noah Bradley is really great. Once you get to a very modest level of competence, you see how poor his work is.

>> No.1961375

>>1961371
No one can post anything that would be able to please you through the shroud of ignorance and dislike that you have veiling your eyes from everything subjective. All you're doing at this point is trying to troll people into posting anything so you can further fuel your burning hatred by bashing it.

>> No.1961376

>>1961374

since about last thursday

>> No.1961377

>>1961374
>No one who has achieved any progress as an artist thinks that Noah Bradley is really great.

Alright, now you have officially invited yourself to this conclusion. You are practically begging the question

>So post your art.

>> No.1961380

>>1961372

No hate bro, I'm just laughing my ass off over here. I make a good living doing art, btw, so I have no jealousy for anyone else who does. (I don't even have to supplement my income with teaching like Noah does. What, you didn't read what he wrote about how hard it is for him to make a living?)

>> No.1961381

>>1961366

that's not true noah.

>> No.1961382

>>1961375
Yeah see, now you're assuming that I hate Noah, which I have repeatedly stated I do not, being as I am
>>1961302
>>1960460
>>1960498
and as I have said before, I do not believe Noah to be a terrible artist, NOR is he a great one. Convince me that I'm wrong, anon. Convince me that he deserves a place alongside my folders of Mead and Frazetta and Kim Jung Gi and Eugène Galien-Laloue and so on and so forth.
Oh, and since jelly comes up so much, I am in fact super jelly of Kim Jung Gi.

>> No.1961385

>I'm not jealous of his success!
>That's why i'm posting in a hate thread about him bashing him, that's just how not-jealous I am!

Wow. Really?

>> No.1961387

>>1961380
>I made a living off my art drawing big tits and big hips because people are idiots
>I can't actually make decent art, and have no idea how it works
>I probably cell shade, if I shade at all
So tell me something that actually impresses me.

>> No.1961390

>>1961387
Wait, so you're going to chide him for bashing Noah, then you're going to bash HIM? Wow, you are so the better person.

>> No.1961394

>>1961387

>he seriously thinks drawing porn is a bad thing
We can't all get paid to shit on the floor in modern art galleries or starve to death while we paint our hundredth "Melancholy Woman Looking Out to Sea, Oil Paint on Woodblock"

>> No.1961400

>>1961381
But Noah, we are handsome.

We are gorgeous, Noah...

> A low and distorted version of Cristina Agulara's "I Am Beautiful" in g major eerily floods the room

>You realize that you ARE Noah Bradley.

>> No.1961401

>>1960438

I think his IP is cool as fuck too, Anon. Noah has some pretty fucking awesome works too - far better than ANYTHING i've ever sen on /ic/.

Haters be hating.

>> No.1961402

>>1961390
>Better person
>on 4chan

Oh quit it.

>> No.1961407

>>1961402
Just sayin', kinda undermining yourself anon.

>> No.1961408

>>1961401
>Noah has some pretty fucking awesome works too - far better than ANYTHING i've ever sen on /ic/

Blatantly true to anyone with
>eyeballs
Everyone jelly, ignorant, or has a shitty monitor with terrible resolution and cheeto stains on the screen.

>> No.1961412

>>1961407
Welp, your mistake for thinking I'm trying to win a 4chan thread war or amass a following of like-minded people to win a 4chan crusade. Anyone's opinion of me as a person as opposed to the thoughts and opinions I am expressing are not even a spec of sand on an imaginary beach.

>> No.1961413

>>1961385
>That's why i'm posting in a hate thread about him bashing him, that's just how not-jealous I am!
>Wow. Really?

Do you think everyone who posts in Rob Liefield hate theads is jealous of his figure drawing skills? That they only WISH they could draw Captain America as good?

Are you retarded? Are you trolling? Why are you such a fucking imbecile? You can not like an artist without secretly wishing you were him, you sad little Freud wannabe.

>> No.1961414

Denial.

>> No.1961415

>>1961387

I do concept art, not porn. Not that there's anything wrong with doing porn. I love Incase and a bunch of other good porn artists.

>> No.1961418

>>1961413

Didn't mean to strike a nerve kid.

Go draw and maybe finish up that Noah voodoo doll you have in the works.

>> No.1961425

>>1961415
We'd love to see some concept art from such an esteemed artist who thinks Noah's landscapes look like trash. You have to be god tier. I mean, what kind of landscapes are YOU drawing? Fluffy purple marshmallow landscapes with floating dildos in them? God, I can't wait to see them.

>> No.1961426

>>1961425
>Fluffy purple marshmallow landscapes with floating dildos in them?
SOMEONE PLEASE DRAW THIS ASAP.

>> No.1961429

>>1961418
You know what motherfucker? Maybe I will.

Also, taking a screenshot of this thread as we speak.

I will proceed to print it out and tape it to the mirror/Noah Bradley shrine that I have situated in my closet because I too am Noah Bradley.

>> No.1961431

>>1961429

What, you going to post it in the next mindless bash thread as "100% PROOF" that noah shills are among us

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>>1961429
>I will proceed to print it out and tape it to the mirror/Noah Bradley shrine that I have situated in my closet because I too am Noah Bradley.
Oh god, my sides.

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>>1961431
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qir-MgJqG1o

>> No.1961512

>>1961483

You did this instead of drawing.

Chew on that for a bit

>> No.1961542

>>1961512
Don't you dare tell me how to live my life.

>> No.1961546

>>1961483
>And that time you were sharpening your pencil, and the lead broke for the fourth time?

>IT WAS ME, NOAH! ME!

>> No.1962465

>2015
>still this fucking jealous

We need to move on.

>> No.1962478

>>1962465

Then why did you bump this up from page 3 faggot?