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https://www.patreon.com/KR0NPR1NZ
What the fuck. 3000 PER WEEK to draw. This guy has my respect, he's not even 25. I can't believe it..

>> No.1955813

>>1955810
Oh look another kr0npen1z bait thread
>inb4 chromatic abrasion
>inb4 same face
>inb4 comfort zone
fuck off OP and go draw

>> No.1955821

One thing I don't get about the people who cry comfort zone is this.

Who the fuck gets paid 3k to draw shit they don't like and aren't good at? Aside from making 1k on a single furry portrait, I don't know what being a jack-of-all-art even does financially.

I'm pretty sure if the top Devvies drew pots, or trees or cityscapes people wouldn't buy it even if it was professional grade.

>> No.1955839

>weekly Kron shill thread
Right on time!

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1955862

Jelly, eh?

>> No.1955883

He gets paid to draw the things he enjoys?.. Good for him.

>> No.1955885

>>1955813
You could call this same shit on Artgerm tho

>> No.1955887

>>1955883
He enjoys getting money.

>> No.1955899

>>1955887
he is just a simplistic moneylover unlike you. You draw lolicon out of the sheer enjoyment of it

>> No.1955901

>>1955887
you don't?

>> No.1955907

>>1955899
>>1955887
that sounds fun

>> No.1955925

>>1955901
I don't care about money. I don't have any hobbies that require money nor do I want anything in general.

>> No.1955928

>>1955810
>he's not even 25
He's 25 years old you, autist.
And patreon is not even his main job

>> No.1955942

>>1955925
Then do it for money, and rip it up in front of people for your own amusement?

>> No.1955950

>>1955810
1.He can draw pretty girls all day
2.He actually enjoys doing it
3.He gets paid for it
I don't see the problem here. Good for him.

>HURR DURR, he's not pure artist, money loving scum.
Fuck you guys, admit it, you would all like to be in his place

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1955951

>>1955950
these threads are basically this.

>> No.1955952

>>1955942
I don't get amusement out of that. If I had that money, I'd donate it all.

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1955961

>>1955950
admit what? i draw shit that's actually good. im a fantastic writer. im the one that's going to make money off of doing something i enjoy, not the guy who is stuck drawing white girls with big eyes, having no redeemable skills and leaving no legacy behind.

nigga im gonna have a big ass wikipedia page. fuck this nobody.

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1955963

>>1955961
You and me both man. See you on the long term success side!

>> No.1955965

>>1955961
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian(/ic/)

>> No.1955973

>>1955961
How much are you making with your "actually good" artwork, and your "fantastic" writing abilities? It's simple to overvalue your shitty skills, but bitch please. Wake the fuck up. You don't make shit, and you never will.

>> No.1955976

>>1955973
>all that matters is how much you make
Ewww this is what society has done to the artist. Truly a disgusting time to live in.

>> No.1955978

>>1955976
Well yeah, it does amazing things for an artist when they have food to put in their mouths and they can pay their damn internet bills and gas to live. I mean, not all of us live with our parents still. So stop projecting.

>> No.1955983

>>1955973
i make very little. wake the fuck up. not everyone whos successful makes money in their lifetime especially with artwork. all you have to do is see the quality of content i put out on this site to know that success doesn't come immediately. it could take decades after your gone. you have to work towards it and see the bigger picture of your artwork beyond a few great pieces.

trust me if i didn't believe in what i was making, and didnt understand the value of it outside of something monetary id have quit and just spent the rest of my life as a machinist or a ditch digger.

>> No.1955989

>>1955978
What exactly was I projecting that isn't true? That we're all too dependent on money?

>> No.1955995

Lolololol the Wikipedia.

>> No.1955998
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1955998

>>1955961
keep dreaming, kid. maybe if you made work on canvas or published books, but no one cares for digital.

>im the one that's going to make money off of doing something i enjoy, not the guy who...
you can't be serious. do you honestly refuse to believe that kron likes what he does?
>this guy can't be for real

>> No.1955999

>>1955965
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian(/ic/)
some one keep the page alive for fuck sake

>> No.1956004

>>1955998
He can like it all he wants but do you really think he's going to like it forever? At the rate he's going, he's going to burn out REALLY quickly.

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>>1955998
>maybe if you made work on canvas
i sold this for $500 a few years ago. my good ideas are rare. lightning in a bottle. working digitally is a way of working through ideas before spending money on supplies because i don't have a whole lot to spend.

and no there is no enjoyment to be had from grinding out skill points in painting with no content behind it. its a completely neutral experience if you spend your time doing that. it has to be a gateway to something greater. if this kron guy actually applied his skill in painting to some solid ideas i could get behind him but im not going to blindly support someone who hasn't proven himself.

he shows no signs of going in the direction i'd like him to go in. its going to be nothing but white girls for the foreseeable future.

>> No.1956009

>>1956004
you could say that about any artist in history and you'd be wrong.

>>1956006
ok we get it, you like black grills. not your fetish. move along, fellas.

>> No.1956012

>>1956009
Yes, because there's no such thing as an artist who got burnt out.

>> No.1956014

>>1955983
If you love your artwork, you will make money from it if you're smart. That is especially true in this age of the Internet and Patreon. If you're really as good as you claim, there is no reason for you not to be making enough to live. Either you didn't come up with a good plan, you have too many expenditures, or you lack passion.

>> No.1956020

>>1956006
>he shows no signs of going in the direction i'd like him to go in. its going to be nothing but white girls for the foreseeable future.
i like you brian but shit man you seem kind of bitter right now
anways
Go outside and ask some one if they know who "kronprins" is
most likely no one knows who he is
but the thing is brian you got potential man
you have that memorablility, I know most people here are a bunch of angry wanabe "concept" artist who'll most likely spend their lives doing $10 porn commisions till they hopefully get "big"
even still you'll at least be remember on /ic/ like teal or bagbosse.
now im gonna go puke beecause i havent descaled my coffe maker in about 6 months.

>> No.1956024

>>1956012
I wouldn't be or get burnt out if I were to receive 3k/month.
Again this is for drawing and that's something artist want to do.
The more you draw the more you learn and getting paid for it, not bad at all.
Regardless of the critics or what anyone else says.

>> No.1956027

>>1956020
Jokes on you. We'll be making pretty girl faces and earning no less than 3k a month on Patreon while he makes shitty "smurt" idea paintings that no one gives a fuck about outside of old women. Oh yeah, times are a changin.

>> No.1956028

>>1956024
It doesn't matter what the incentive, burning out happens as a result of constantly doing too much work. 3k a week, a BJ a day, you name it ain't gonna do shit except put more pressure on you to put out even when you can't. And if that happens, you're done.

>> No.1956030

>>1956027
The Old Masters would be so proud.

>> No.1956035

>>1956030
Fuck the old masters. In time old things become obsolete. People need to stop obsessing over shit that's gone and over and accept our mighty animu overlords.

>> No.1956046

"Muh ideas" is just as bad as "Muh style". Even ponyshit artists are more respectable than you first world faggots who think your paintings deep.

>> No.1956048

Beats being poor and starving, so good on him to feed himself

>> No.1956050

>>1956046
>first world faggots
>better than being a poor piece of shit who bathes in the smell of his families feces as they shit right outside their house
>enjoy your diseases and insects you poor bitch

Is this like, 3rd world scum privilege or something? It's like "white people can't be racist" but it comes from poor bitches who wipe their asses with their own hands.

>> No.1956052

>>1955961
you already have a wiki page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandiose_delusions

>> No.1956053

>>1956050
>privilege
Kill yourself.

>> No.1956057

>>1956050
I AM TRIGGERED

>> No.1956061

>>1956053
I would say kill yourself instead since you're not worth shit, but I'm pretty sure the disease or crime will handle that.

>> No.1956066

>>1956048
>a living shit tier artist is better than a dead one

>> No.1956081

>>1956014
no, what's most important about making money is pandering. if your interests and skills align with a sizable population, you'll do well with even mediocre skill. loving your artwork doesn't mean shit for money unless someone else loves it enough to pay for it.

you could be the smartest, most enthusiastic professional artist on Patreon who specializes in drawing fingernail clippings. planning, belt tightening and passion cultivation will earn you shit all.

>> No.1956083

>>1956081
True enough. I feel sorry for any artist that has shitty boring interests. There's a reason people who draw pretty girls, cool action scenes, sex, etc are more popular than those artist who draw old people licking popsickles or fingernail clippings. That shit is wack, get an actually subject of interest to make art of. If you or any artist actually has a fingernail clipping fetish, you need to reevaluate your life.

>> No.1956084

>>1956052
>hopes and dreams have been trivialized into delusions

You're all a bunch of cynical bastards aren't you?

>> No.1956086

>>1956083
People have different interests and opinions than yourself. Just leave them be you fag.

>> No.1956091

>>1956086
>other than yourself
annd the majority of the Internet, which is why they are actually popular.
>leave them be
I will, and so will everyone else. Which is why they have no hope of earning any money.

>> No.1956093

>>1956091
>internet
Fuck off aready, generation z.

>earning any money
Surprise surprise, not everybody does art for money. Only those who are good at nothing else.

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1956094

How do people even look at his art without getting a headache?

>mfw chromatic shit on monochrome art

>> No.1956095

>>1956093
>generation z
Yeah, alright. Which generation is that? I literally don't give a fuck like someone else obviously does.

>only those who are good at nothing else
Or those skilled and passionate with a subject matter that's actually interesting to people, and a smart use of learned abilities to become pleasing to the eyes of their audience. Blanket statement much? I'm not irrational, I'm the voice of reason.

>> No.1956096

>>1956095
>I literally don't give a fuck
Well thanks for confirming it for me.

No, it's specifically those who can't do anything else. That's not to say they won't ever be good at other things just at the point of them starting. Hence the allure of drawing/painting for money rather than going straight into the workforce.

>> No.1956098

>>1956096
>proclaim to have a unique voice in art
>uphold the notion of being a sheep in workforce

top kek.

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1956099

Most if not all artist from the old times were poor. None of them got to see a cent of what their paintings are worth now.

So why not milk it for what its worth now and enjoy the money?

>>1956094
That monochrome art is making money though.
>Pic related.

>> No.1956100

So people do this now instead of commissions? Is it easier to do this?

>> No.1956101

>>1956099

Lol dude do you even into art history? The only poor sod of the old masters was Van Gogh prerty much and that's with a reason, his work really isn't that good.

>> No.1956103

>>1956098
I didn't proclaim shit. Probably not the guy you think you're talking to?

>> No.1956104

>>1956096
>Well thanks for confirming it for me.
Confirming what? That you use blanket statements and other stupid remarks to label everyone in an entire generation into exactly the same stereotype and mindset? Face it, you're a piece of shit and you need some good old fashioned mental unfuckery. I'll be happy to school you on just how deluded you are at any time.

>> No.1956105

>>1956100
You get to draw whatever you want without the one who commissioned it breathing down your dick for not rendering that one vein on the horses dick.

>> No.1956106

>>1956096
>can't do anything else
>I went from working a full time job that would make you cry like the little bitch you are to doing commissions for a living
>check yourself, you shitty basement dweller

>> No.1956108

>>1956104
No, I was confirming that you're of generation z by your language. Since you're too lazy to google what it is, it means you were born after 2000.

>> No.1956109

>>1956108
and this is why you're a retard. As they say "constantly" in the military-Assumptions make an ass out of you and me. Make a mental note of that.

>> No.1956110

>>1956106
I will after you learn how to use meme arrows.

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1956111

>>1956109
>Assumptions make an ass out of you and me.
People still use this? I thought that was like some cheesy 90's saying.

>> No.1956114

>>1956093
talking in absolutes can get you into trouble. there's obviously a continuum of money earning artists, where on one end you have people who do it for nothing but the paycheck while at the other end you have people who are lucky enough to enjoy making things that others appreciate, absolving them from the need to spend time on a job when they can coincidentally make money doing what they love.

the issue this thread and others like it raises is not whether the continuum exists, but where on that continuum you place random internet artist #45,694. If you hate <insert mainstream style/subject matter>, you increase your chances of being correct at picking out the wage slave artist because 1) the pool of artists is larger and 2) the chance of a money pursuing artist operating in that pool is greater. but you really can't tell what is hidden in the hearts of men nor is there a point in doing so. arguing about someone else's interests, abilities and motivation is a waste of your own time and energy that's not worth the solace it provides to one's ego.

>> No.1956116

>>1956111
Just goes to show that you're more retarded than you think you are.

>>1956110
>meme arrows
>bitch these are whatever I want them to be arrows, also quotes and thought arrows, you moran

>> No.1956121

>>1956100
It's better overall. Patreon lets artists get paid for basically just existing with their expertise, like a petroleum engineer. Commissions only let artists get paid for selling products like a cellphone guy in the mall.

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1956128

I honestly don't understand the purpose of these threads.
He is obviously good, better than all of /ic/.
He find the excellent format to sell his work — thing you better learn from him if you don't want to starve (also, while he was living in Russia and working for their companies he was pretty fucking poor because no one gives a shit about art there).
Every week he provides decent amount of content.
People want to give him money themselves, he doesn't force anybody to do that.
So what the fucking matter?

>> No.1956132

>>1956121
>>1956105
It does seen better though "requests" and whatnot are a common feature for patrons who pay a higher amount on accounts with multiple reward levels so things inevitably get made anyways

Still, maybe now we can see more western erotic artists on patreon make things other than Naruto, Avatar and Nintendo art

>> No.1956134

>>1955821
>can't draw anything but one girl
That's what makes me better than them. I'm better than everyone on that site because I actually can draw anything I want accurately.

>> No.1956135

>>1956128
jealous

>> No.1956138

>>1956128
I'm not against his work at all, I'm more in awe at the sheer amount he's making. He's making more off this than many skilled, highly educated professionals in most industries

>> No.1956140

>>1956128
>He is obviously good, better than all of /ic/.
>that kind of rendering
>good

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1956145

ok, so this is slav artists thread now
posting the buddy of kron, arsenixc

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>>1956145

>> No.1956148

>>1956140
Like you could do better. XD

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1956150

>>1956147

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>>1956150

>> No.1956152
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>>1956151

>> No.1956154

>>1956148
Better than you. :P

>> No.1956155

>>1956145
>BORING AND SHIT

>>1956147
>KANNNEDDAAAAAAA
>good perspective exercise

>>1956150
>good perspective exercise

>>1956151
>BORING AND SHIT

>>1956152
>good perspective exercise

so...does this guy only have two modes?

>> No.1956156

>>1956154
You challenging me to a draw-off, milk drinker?

>> No.1956188

>>1956138
That's what happens when you pander to the retarded masses.

>> No.1956199

>>1955950
fucking eh i wana be in his shoes, i look up to this nigger to make money of art. but im shit

>> No.1956206

>>1956140

Show me one thing from /ic/ that looks as solid.

Protip: there isn't. Even the "big concept industry people" rarely post anything besides scribbly WIPs, and outside of a few established artists that visit, it's mostly elitist 20-somethings who've been regurgitating the same bitter, high-art circle-jerking that's neither commercially viable nor appealing to the palate of their peer groups.

>>1956093

>Surprise surprise, not everybody does art for money.

Good for you. Now, if you genuinely meant that, you wouldn't be a snarky faggot about how artists decide to make their money. You're jealous dude, just admit it. I'm jealous of a lot of people, but I don't delude myself into thinking that I'm just way ahead of the curve, because if that were the case, I'd have been litigious enough to do *better* than the top-earners on Patreon. Same with you or anyone else. A good artist has to understand the value of gaining an audience, otherwise you and "muh ideas" may as well be in a coma.

>"JUST BECAUSE I DON'T MAKE MONEY WITH MY ART DOESN'T DEMEAN IT"

No, but if you're going to boast about the integrity of your work, then have more to back it up than "I'm the shit guys, just wait and see! These people who get more and more money every month won't have shit on me!"

Maybe post a picture? And if you're not confident enough to submit yourself conceptually to the approval of other artists, then what are you doing on here?

Oh wait, we covered this, you're being an elitist faggot who's jealous because you're seeing people younger than you make more money at something they love.

>> No.1956213

>>1956206
Dial it down on the projection, man.

>> No.1956221

>>1956213

Do you even know what projection is? Maybe look that up. Not even him; that was just too weak not to call out.

>> No.1956225

>>1956213
must be retard day today!

>> No.1956231

>>1956221
>>1956225
>transfer or attribute one's own emotion or desire to (another person), especially unconsciously.

Because his spiel on me being jealous and so on wasn't just that. Even if it isn't his own personal feelings on the matter, he still projected a viewpoint on to me based on nothing than his own presumption.

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1956238

>>1956206
>Show me one thing from /ic/ that looks as solid.

>> No.1956260

>>1956238
>coloring
>lighting
>textures
good stuff

>flat perspective
>high school level anatomical posing
...goddammit anon

>> No.1956263

>>1956231
But you are jealous. Observations aren't projections. Brown is brown, ultraviolet is ultraviolent, jealous whining is jealous whining.

>> No.1956264

hey guys it's me kronprinz how y'all DOIN

>> No.1956266

>>1956264
send me monies, I has no monies and dying.

>> No.1956276

>>1956128
>He is obviously good, better than all of /ic/.

that's fucking offensive mate.

>> No.1956281

>>1956213

Projection requires leaking insecurities that are largely unrelated to the topic at hand. This entire thread has been nothing but bitching between one or two people who think that they're these brilliant artists that the world will soon be witness to blossoming and their butthurt over people that are somehow beneath them. So connecting those very easy to connect dots =/= projection. It's not even close.

But keep reaching for nerdy 4chan kid lingo to base an argument around. I guess your next reply is going to include the word "cuck" somewhere, right?

>> No.1956282

>>1956238

>/ic/ will shit on technically solid and brilliantly composed artwork with vibrant colors but will defend bland, interchangeable military grunts with on-the-nose crew cuts and sloppy-non backgrounds

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAnd this is why like the rest of 4chan, /ic/ is beyond saving.

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1956289

>>1956282
lol you're such a new newfag, i wish you knew how you look taking merc_wip seriously

>> No.1956300

>>1956289

You're right, I'm the faggot for not keeping up with epic may mays XD

>> No.1956304

>>1956300
yup

>> No.1956311

>>1956156
that's what I thought, faggle.

>> No.1956312

>>1956300
definitely means you should lurk moar instead of posting ~sigh /ic/ so bad sigh~ farticles all over the place.

>> No.1956317

WAIT

Do these guys have jobs? Do they balance their job and this?

Or do they just make this their job and work from home?

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1956320

>>1956282
>>1956260
No wonder this place has gotten worse, it's the fucking newfags shitting everything up.

>> No.1956333

>>1956317
Why the fuck would someone who makes 11,000$ a month need another job?

>> No.1956334

I always find it funny how so many people on /ic/ are proud of having no comfort zone. You know that a comfort zone means you have something you are good at, right? EVERY good artist has a comfort zone. If you don't, then that means you have nothing you are good at.

>> No.1956335

>>1956333
Just asking for the lesser people that don't make as much as 3dglasses guy

>> No.1956339

>>1956152
shirow miwa/ redjuice vibe but not quite

>> No.1956341

>>1956335
Well, obviously that's different from person to person. What do you even mean with "these guys"? Artists who have a patreon? Fanartists? The majority of professional artists using patreon just do it to have a nice little bonus income each month without having to do anything for it and make their living like they always did with in-house jobs or freelance commissions.

>> No.1956352

>>1956312
Because that's what people do here, they lurk instead of drawing.

>> No.1956366

wtf is happening in that video of his

>> No.1956373

>>1956366
You need 3d glasses.

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1956375

I fucking quit.
I'm better than this guy, I work all goddamn day and I hardly make a few hundred bucks a month. Fuck this industry. I want to fucking die.

>> No.1956376

>>1956375
See there's the question. He makes alot of money.....

But can we learn anything from him art wise?

>> No.1956379

>>1956376
I don't want to make my life more miserable by painting anime all day just to be more popular.

>> No.1956380

>>1956379
There's always sexy strong Marvel DC comic book heroines.

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1956381

>>1956206
>Show me one thing from /ic/ that looks as solid.

>> No.1956386

>>1956128
>He is obviously good, better than all of /ic/.
jace is a better kron then kron

>> No.1956393

>>1956381
Does Thorsten really count though, since he doesn't really frequent here anymore?

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1956394

>>1956134

lol so where's your patreon worth $3000?

if you were better than him, you'd be smarter than him, more talented than him, and you'd be making more than him.

"being better" is subjective. you have no quantifiable way of proving you are indeed better.

>> No.1956395

>>1956276

prove that he's not.

you can't.

>> No.1956396

>>1956379

if you don't want to make money making anime, then why do you care how much he makes? if the art truly matters to you, then make art, and let people come to you based on how good you're art is.

if all you really care about is mad dosh, then shut the fuck up and bend over, whore.

>> No.1956401

>>1956375
If you really are better than him yet you can't make money, then you might just be really fucking stupid. Also stop it with your pathetic excuses already, there are thousands of artists who don't draw anime and make loads of money.

The reason why you aren't successful is not because you are such a special snowflake oozing integrity, but because you are flat out too dumb to market yourself.

>> No.1956402

>>1956393
I lurk mostly but I still post critiques every now and then. It's a good mental exercise, I think.

>> No.1956403

>>1956379
You know I really wonder, what exactly it is that people like you enjoy to paint? You always talk about how much you hate anime, how much you hate fanart, portraits are comfort zone shit, anything concept art related is photobashing shit, anything fantasy or sci-fi is juvenile. Just what is it you enjoy painting?

I would assume that you are at least interested in entertainment art because you are talking about "this industry" and you are getting mad that an artist less skilled than you makes more money within this industry.

>> No.1956405

>>1956403
> You always talk about how much you hate anime, how much you hate fanart, portraits are comfort zone shit, anything concept art related is photobashing shit, anything fantasy or sci-fi is juvenile.
What the fuck are you even talking about. You don't know me. I said I don't like doing anime. It's a big stretch from anime to concept art, sci fi and fantasy don't you think? I enjoy doing original work within those genres.

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>>1956403
i do mainly abstracts, lots of semidigi stuff, mspaint, glitch art, that sort of thing, here's an mspaint example, it's a riff on trad vs digi in naive art, and the nude.

>> No.1956418
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1956418

Kron's old life drawings from art school. Stay mad. Russian art schools are best.

>> No.1956425

OP here, kek you guys are so butthurt, have some respect for him, he's one of the top artists of the world and he's not even 25, he will do more money than you will ever do. Instead of complaining why don't you finance him and learn from his tutorials?

>> No.1956426

i'm jealous..

>> No.1956429

>>1956418
this is boring and irrevelant to this topic, mods do your work for once

>> No.1956430

>>1956425
top artists in the world? lel. you probably couldn't even name say, 5 of the top artists atm.

>> No.1956432

>>1956406
And you genuinely believe that is better than what Kron does?

>> No.1956433

>>1956418
Pls stop shitposting

>> No.1956434

>>1956432
yeah, i don't see him travelling into the heart of darkness and pulling out gems from the swamp of raw naive creation and forging them into crystalline answers, at once both base and sublime!

>> No.1956435

>>1956406
Holyshit this is awesome
This is real art and not some soulless commercial crap

>> No.1956437

>>1956430
He's at the level of the top artists.
You can easily place him next to the podium of Ruan Jia Jia, Dave Rapozza, Feng Zhu, Scott Robertson and Joe Mad (I tried to name various artists here)
If you think my list sucks try to explain why, but I guess you can't because only a fool would not agree with me on that point.

>> No.1956438

>>1956437
$$$ it's the only way to put a number value on it, and by that standard, the gold standard, the best artist is damien hirst, with his $1 billion net worth.

the end

>> No.1956446

>>1956375
Uh huh. Keep telling yourself that.

>> No.1956448

>>1956438
You are half right here, he's the best artist when it comes to self-promotion / marketing, the only way to evaluate the best artist in this category is the networth. Now in the skills category, your damien is getting his ass raped like college girl.

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>>1956448
there's no skills category. the only thing quantifiable is what people bought their stuff for.

thus the best painting ever was "false start" by jasper johns.

deal with it.

>> No.1956457

>>1956260
jealous

>> No.1956458

>>1956437
Podium of kitsch digital and comic artist hacks who are draftsmen more than artists? I imagine your work has tons of fantasy knights and goblins in it.

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>>1956433
>Pls stop shitposting
>this is boring and irrevelant to this topic
>this thread
Stay mad

>> No.1956468

and just like I said in other threads these past few days.

This thread is proof that majority of /ic/ is filled with whiny, BITTER, shitty, jealousy artist, that do nothing but shit on artists that are better than them or doing something with their art. Instead of babbling and crying on the internet from mommies house.

Fucking weirdos.

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>>1956468
o oh, it's the "this is what /ic/ is like.." guy, come to ruin the party!

don't you get that all these people are just fucking around. what a stick in the mud, ha!

>> No.1956474

>>1956458
Are you >>1956406?

You are either a troll or mentally challenged if you seriously believe that commercian entertainment art is in any way, shape or form inferior to the shit you draw. Not even the guy you replied to and I'm pretty sure that guy was trolling you in the first place.

>> No.1956475

>>1956468
We should start screencapping these posts and put them in one big collage, that'd be pretty good actually.

>> No.1956479

>>1956452
>>1956458
Yes, I'm afraid conceptual illustration is the top tier art when it comes to skills.

To be an efficiant conceptual illustrator like the ones I listed, you need to MASTER fundamentals, perspective, light/shadow/tone, composition, unique style, colors, etc.. to create something FROM YOUR MIND (the true essence of creation) that will communicate a solid idea. That's why Frank Frazetta had an influence on almost any god tier concept artists.

So on one hand you got an artist that master all these skills and on the other hand you got an artist that only spash paint on a canva. The splash might more pleasant to look at for some people, but it comes to taste, not skills.

>> No.1956480

>>1955813
you cant deny that he makes the same face over and over again, they all look like Mikasa

>> No.1956481

>>1956468
I feel you anon. Maybe you should stop going to /ic/.
I come here like once a month and every time I visit I get reminded why I left in the first place.

>> No.1956483

Interview with Kron. Google-translate this shit if you want
http://en.render.ru/books/show_book.php?book_id=2120
http://otaku.ru/post/91344642713/kr0npr1nz

>> No.1956485

>>1956480
Every artist has "same face".

>> No.1956486

>>1955810
I wonder if Kron comes here every week to see another thread of him and laughs about it while wiping his ass with dollars

>> No.1956488

>>1956474
depends how you define better.

well let's use a human definition.

commercial art is for the human equivalent of pigs, you can throw whatever you want in the sty and the pigs will eat it.

and beau art is for the human equivalent of gods. looking down on the world with condensation and divine insight.

an anime is for teenagers, who are garbage cans, and consume garbage.

so using this simple tiered scale, what i do is better, and more so what i do is almost a holy act.

the best um, mr. chromeprince can say is that he doesn't litter.

>> No.1956490

>>1956486
Only Saejinoh read /ic/ and /v/ http://saejinoh.blogspot.kr/

>> No.1956494

>>1956490
How is the weather in south korea

>> No.1956495

>>1955810
Jesus Christ hes like the Newton of illustration
"at age 11 he entered the Moscow Art Lyceum architecture"

"and I began to study hard: Wool Loomis and Bammesa" You should adore him /ic/

>> No.1956496

>>1956488
Dude, you are on the same level as Illistrat. People laugh at you and your "art". Your "art" has about the same value as a literal retard taking a dump on a crowded street. Sure, he invokes emotion with that, he makes people feel something, he shocks people, but ultimately, he's still just a retard taking a dump and people stare at him in disgust, laugh at him or feel pity for him. That's what you are to people.

>> No.1956498

>>1956488
stop trying, no one takes you seriously anymore.

>> No.1956502

>>1956488
> beau art
It's beaux arts you dumbass shit and there's nothing godly about it, it's all about copying what's in front of you
If you can't draw without a reference you're not worthy

>> No.1956505

>>1956495
yes he is a godly prodige, I hope he will keep getting better and not sit on this pile of cash, for the sake of the art community

>> No.1956511

>>1956333
To be fair, depending on Patreon's workload, I could see someone with a good work ethic keeping/getting a decent job outside of that.

Even more money to save up for a house or whatever plus it's some variety to your life outside of drawing and whatever hobby you have. Of course you'd have to be the kind of person who can't sit still and have a goal for all that cash outside of hiring hookers.

>> No.1956515

>>1956495
Doesn't matter how good he was, if he's creating bad art he's a shit artist.

>> No.1956519

>>1956498
but i'm not serious?
>>1956502
i said "beau art" as in the singular, not "beaux arts" as in the plural. so i think beau is more appropriate, but i think there is some leeway there.

anyway, all i'm saying is that i'm better than you and i think we can agree on that at least.

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>>1956515
He isn't creating bad art though. You might dislike the stylization and I personally hate his use of filters and chromatic abberation, but at the end of the day, his work is solid and most definitely better than yours. He can draw, he understands perspective, he has a solid and sharp rendering technique. That's all you need to create good and appealing work.

>> No.1956540

>>1956525
i see what you mean, ripe with meaning those pictures of japanese school girls.

one days he'll be hung in galleries right next to caravaggio and titian

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>>1955862
Looks familiar

>> No.1956573

Oh look, another thread on /ic where children gossip about successful people like a bunch of 50's housewives.

/ic is shit

>> No.1956576

>>1956474
Im not that guy. That stuff is okay, i mean technically speaking its impressive but very superficial. Old masters blended high technical skill with proficient storytelling abilities and symbolism. I mean if you feel digital art is the highest form of artistic expression id say youre probably 19 but everyone has their own tastes.

>> No.1956577

>>1956573
we already filled that part bro

>> No.1956582

>>1955810
I certainly admire some of his pieces but I feel really sad for the guy. He's living in a fantasy realm, dreaming and yearning for something more than what he's been doing for the past 10+ years. Art is the reflection of our experiences, and you can spot from a distance that he's just a glorified weaboo with typical nerd interests that has spent the majority of his youth indoors shut away instead of living out his life. I can only hope he saves up some of that earned cash and lives a little, and by live I mean something other than take bland photos of food and people during what little time he's outside.

>> No.1956584

>>1956582

Holy shit, the projection is unreal here.

>> No.1956585

>>1956584
what projection... ? go and watch djurdjevic's video on life

>> No.1956587

>>1956582
Your definition of "living life" is a fucking joke, I can say by my own experience that getting drunk and fucking chicks is a waste of time.

>> No.1956589

>>1956582
Literally cuck: the post

>> No.1956590

>>1956582
Not everyone enjoys the same shit as you. He IS living. He enjoys making the artwork that he makes, AND he is making a very nice paycheck off of it. What the heck are you trying to say here? All I see is jelly.

>> No.1956592

>>1956582
>top tier assumptions as a coping mechanism to trick himself that he's a better person than kronz.

top kek

>> No.1956593

>>1956590
Oh, by the way, this is coming from someone who wakes up in the morning and says "fuck yeah, I'm gonna do art today!" and when I go to bed, I say "damn, I want to do more art, but I really need to sleep sometimes."

I hate socializing, I don't like being around random strangers, and I have no interest in doing any of the shitty mundane things that you call living. You can fuck off.

>> No.1956594

>>1956582
Damn, do we really have this kind of people in /ic/? I thought everything is just trolling and sarcasm but this guy sounds like having a serious delusion.

>> No.1956601

>>1956582
I certainly admire some of your post but I feel really sad for you. you're living in a fantasy realm, dreaming and yearning for something that you have never achieved doing for the past 10+ years. Art is the reflection of our experiences, and you can spot from a distance that you're just shitposting in /ic/ with typical jelly that has spent the majority of his youth being shitty at drawing. I can only hope you saves up some of that earned cash and git gud a little, and by git gud I mean something other than pirating DVD tutorials and go to some atelier and stuff.

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>>1956590
>>1956589
>>1956587
>>1956592
>>1956593
>>1956594
>>1956601
LOL
I expected all you basement dwelling weirdos would get defensive about your "lifestyle" seeing how where we are. Get a grip on reality and look in the mirror sometime. You're neets, and those people are successful.

Here's the problem- look at Dave, he has it right. And yet, you WILL STILL come in here and talk about how he sucks because he doesn't sit indoors all the time and practices. Except that he already did that, for two years. And yet you WILL STILL come in here and be hypocrites about things that you believe in just for the sake of arguing. You will talk about how he's a faggot for getting tagged in party pics, how he's a degenerate. Real life and socializing =/= degeneracy, you're the degenerate ones for sitting indoors all day for decades, and suggesting to do so even AFTER you get the hang of painting and drawing. And the worst part, is that you will feign ignorance and subvert any argument against this in a form of dismissing it as " oh you're just jelly". Just stop.

>>1956593
Especially you. Holy shit dude, how does it feel to know that even though you sit indoors all day it's not about the amount of hours you put into it, and it never was about the amount of time you put into it. When are you going to realize that it's how you use those hours amounted to you. And that is the reason why so many "prodigies" get good in such a small amount of time.

Hahaha you wasted away your youth, and keep wasting it for literally nothing. Don't worry buddy, one day you'll be successful too! Don't worry, once you get good all that reclusive and hermit lifestyle will be justified! One day!

>> No.1956604

>>1956582
holy shit, thanks for the good laugh.
it's a shame you haven't seen some of his streams with other artists

>> No.1956605

>>1956604
Sitting online in a videocall with your shitty neckbeard friends=! socializing.

>> No.1956606

>>1956605

LOL yeah bro, totally. So yeah, I got this Malaysian chick at the bar the other day, she was so easy. And like, I told her I was an artist and she was like, can you capture my gesture. I was like...bitch you know I can feel your flow.

>> No.1956607

>>1956605
So you haven't. Otherwise you'd heard some interesting and unexpected (for you) things about his life.

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>>1956603
tl;dr

Why are you wasting your time if they ain't gonna get your point anyway?

Just call them fags and praise KRON to piss em off. That's all you gotta do.

Praise Kron

>> No.1956612

>>1956607
>believing claims and hearsay without a source
Yeah, people like saying things about themselves that aren't entirely true, your point?

>>1956609
Because I'm sick and tired of the perpetual belief on this board that unless you sit indoors 24/7 and grind your way in you are literal shit, and that and only that is the definition of a successful artist living a successful life. That's not life. That's fucked up bullshit.

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>>1956612
>mfw the denial is real

>> No.1956616

>>1956603
First of all, you don't know shit about me so stop making stupido assumptions, shit for brains.
I own a house and land. I've been around the world, been through college, and fucked more hot ass bitches than you ever will. Also, I'm gaining followers by the day, and I'm somehow doing well as an artist even though I haven't been at it for long. It feels good, and I'm enjoying every minute of my life. I can do whatever I want, all day, every day. I don't stay inside and do art all day because I'm struggling. I do it because I WANT TO STAY INSIDE AND ART ALL DAY. Also, I've been outside multiple times today, so fuck you.

You are projecting so hard.

>> No.1956618

>>1956612
You can't change them.

Have you seen /pol/ and how they've become stormfront? How about /v/ and their gamergate conspiracies about how threatening to kill women is "preserving the sanctity of america"? It's the same with almost all of the slags on /ic/ who see a sakimichan/kron picture and get rabid.

That perpetual belief is wrong, no matter how much they portray it.

>> No.1956620

>>1956483
>Start with the basics is always worth. It often happens that beginners grasp at something complicated, they have not, and they throw this thing, they think that they have "no talent". Talent is basically a myth, but the desire and commitment - quite the real thing. Everything comes gradually, you should start with a simple and moving on to more complex things only when convinced that the basis of a well-studied. You need to set a goal, to prepare a plan, do not be afraid of failure. Failure will be, but can not be without setbacks and rapid creative growth. Do not lose heart!

based fucking ilya kuvshinov. Kr0n's the damn greatest

>> No.1956621

>>1956612
> that unless you sit indoors 24/7 and grind your way in you are literal shit
But that is true. There is nothing wrong with being shit tier if you want to be shit tier.

>> No.1956622

>>1956616
> I own a house and land
>I fucked more hot ass bitches
>Getting followers every day

but you can't prove that, neckbeard boy.

>> No.1956623
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:^)
kr0n

>> No.1956625

>>1956622
I don't need to prove it. That's the thing. When you're sound as fuck in life, you don't have to prove anything, ever, to anyone. It's fuckin awesome mate, and I doubt you'll ever achieve such a thing. Keep up the good fight.

>> No.1956626

>>1956614
>saving a pic of that cunt
See this is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. You and your neet cancer bullshit need to fucking die off. Three years ago we didn't have your shitty r9k maymays in the drawthread, or the BLOO BLOO threads with the a woe is me why can't I x, why am I depressed and so on and so forth. Just fuck off.

>>1956616
The irony and beauty of your post is in your last sentence.

>>1956618
If you keep long enough in the cesspool, you find that newcomers take it as solid fact. You've got a prime example of a genuinely certified mongoloid right here in this post >>1956621
He actually believes it. And that is the problem.

>>1956621
No. It. Is. Not.
You don't know fucking squat. You and the rest of these fucks need to stop parroting this bullshit and look at real progressions.

>b-b-but muh special snowflake lifestyle
>everyone improves differently
fuck off

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>>1956625
Put your pencil where your mouth is, then. Let's see your shit.

Drawoff.

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>ITT people looking for any excuse not to be drawing today

>> No.1956629

>>1956627
he's gonna post merc wip
it needs to happen

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>>1956626
:^)

>> No.1956631

>>1956628
It's pretty ironic that people who are against me in this thread, who actively believe that the only way to get good is to draw constantly and virtually never leave the house, are now arguing instead of drawing.

Like do you fags see a pattern now?

>> No.1956633

>>1956630
I'm gonna draw that bitch.

See you guys later.

>> No.1956636

>>1956626
Dude. Read your post and analyze it. Anyone can see that you're a sad individual who is losing this argument in every way possible. It doesn't take a certified mental health counselor to figure that out. I'm enjoying your butthurt. It goes really well with this freshly ground coffee and sunshine. 13 followers this morning on my shitty art blog. I wonder where I'll be in a year or two.

>> No.1956640

>>1956636
If you're so good then post your shitty art blog.

I double dog dare you.

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>>1956626
>You don't know fucking squat. You and the rest of these fucks need to stop parroting this bullshit and look at real progressions.

How hard is it to comprehend? The more hours you clock in the better. Or do you think that after a good nights rest you'll internalize what you learned the previous day like you're studying for a math test? That if you only practice 1hr a day that in 2 years you'll be as good as all the other pros? Art Center students clock in 8+ hours a day, you need to replicate the competition. This isn't a game you know.

>> No.1956642

>>1956631
>It's pretty ironic that people who are against me in this thread, who actively believe that the only way to get good is to draw constantly and virtually never leave the house,

You're arguing with people who literally never said anything of the sort. Leaving the house is fine. I'm saying it's a personal choice, and you're basically going full retard.

>> No.1956643

>>1956631

I'm on my lunch break :^)

>> No.1956646

>>1956640
Stop being asshurt. Did you comprehend the post where I said I don't have to, and I'm not interested in proving anything to anyone? Re-read it a couple of times until it sinks in, and then ponder the question to yourself about whether or not I'm ever going to cater to your simpleminded questions.

>> No.1956647

>>1956636
Same as today, up in your basement, arguing for the 24 hour neet lifestyle while chowing down on tendies instead of drawing. Just take that in for a moment, key word is irony.

>>1956641
>The more hours you clock in the better.
You will never fucking get good until you start to think about what you're doing, stop being an indoctrinated drone and think for yourself. It doesn't matter if you practice for a decade if you just go through the motions. And most of your just go through the motions, and I can guarantee that you do so too. I am not going to tell you again to go and check up on progressions. Go look up tehmeh's posts, melon, foals, catbib. Literally anyone who's been here knows what's up.

>>1956642
Yes they have. THAT IS THE ENTIRE ARGUMENT.
They are trying to justify being antisocial and reclusive as a clutch for getting good at art. That's what I was against, and what I said in my first post.

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>>1956628
the jelly level in this thread is off the charts

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Thread a shit.
Kr0n a god.

>> No.1956652

>>1956647
I don't have a basement sadly. Also I don't know what tendies are. I don't eat processed shit, and I live a healthy lifestyle with good natural food. Key word is projecting? Or, stereotyping?

>Yes they have. THAT IS THE ENTIRE ARGUMENT.

Well, you're arguing with me, and I'm not advocating what you say I am. You're basically putting words into my mouth. Textbook definition style. You need to cool off and look at posts you're replying to objectively.

>> No.1956654

So, he is basically new Bahi for /ic/?

>> No.1956655

>>1956646
Nope. Despite your fairy tale, I'm actually better than you, and laugh at the fact that you have nothing to back it up with. I'm not even going to greentext this. Offscreen dick-stroking ain't gonna save you here.

Post your blog and prove me wrong, unless you are a liar. But you ain't gonna, now are you? Like those wiccan kids who say they can use magic but "don't have to prove it to you"

>> No.1956656

>>1956647
>That's what I was against, and what I said in my first post.
you must be one hell of a retard, your first post doesn't even have any sort of actual point just pure assumption that some dude is stuck up in his basement being a nerd just because he draws anime all the while he's actually travelling the world and now live in japan.

>> No.1956657

>>1956628
It's also pretty obvious most of them are newcucks unintentionally feeding trolls. You can tell by the words they use and the shitty reading comprehension they have.

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>>1956627
I actually want to see this draw off. It's like a streetfight throw-down is breaking out in this thread.

>> No.1956660

>>1956647
>You will never fucking get good until you start to think about what you're doing

I don't have an IQ below 90

>> No.1956661

>>1956650
>>1956649
>>1956628
These threads are a fucking joke, anyone who bothers to waste their time arguing about people literally no one outside of digital art community knows about.

>> No.1956662

>>1956655
It's funny, but nothing you say is even remotely accurate. Better than me? Don't know about that. I said I'm a new artist, and even called my art shit basically. So if you're having a dick stroking contest with me, then you're probably either a very terrible and deluded artist, or just a prick mental case who I really don't even need to reply to. Have a nice day.

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>> No.1956668

>>1956666
I agree, fuck all of you
fuck this site

>> No.1956672

>>1956668
Welcome to the Internet prissy bitch. Enjoy your relocation to redyt. You lasted a whole total of what, one morning?

>> No.1956675

>>1956666
nice quads

mods please delete
what could we have done to stop this?

>> No.1956677

Another /ic/ thread for the purpose of circle jerking a hate boner to feel superior. What an artist chooses to create is their own prerogative. Threads like these have people that want to dictate what an artist should do based on their arbitrary definition of art. I have seen hypocrites in these threads say that art can't be defined, only to define what they think art should be moments later.

First I'd like to question what obligation a person has to be creative. First and foremost a person, not an "artist" which as a word gets thrown around these days where different people have developed different meanings for it. If a person is happy to make something for fun, good for them. Consider that the same people you complain about consider art like knitting or putting puzzles together.

Many complaints people have isn't even about the art itself, but the business side of art. Art is sacred as it is base, get over it.

Some of the worst offenders in these threads have the gall to say, "I don't think popularity determines the worth of a creation" only to complain in the next moment that they don't have enough followers or likes. That means you don't believe it nor follow it yourself.

Regardless if the artists are guilty of what the accusation is complaining about it won't do anything. You are only responsible for yourself. High standards for others while lacking the self-awareness of the standards they hold for themselves.

If you are none of these people I described then I'm not describing you. I think these threads are made by trolls most of the time. 10/10 for making me reply, I mad.

>> No.1956679

>>1956675
Avoided the Internet entirely.

>> No.1956680

>>1956672
This website is fucking disgusting to the core. You can't even fathom the mere notion of it being disgusting, so you'd rather make shitty fucking assumptions about me frequenting websites that I'd say are arguable even worse. Fuck all of you degenerates and your shitty neet lifestyle.

>> No.1956681
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1956681

>>1956662
Or I'm just plain better and putting an artless anon down. I'd feign indifference but really this is fun. When people can't back up their skill, they'll try to weasel out anyway they can.

>>1956655
Now for the 3rd time, let's see your work.

>> No.1956682

Just stop. If you ever post here again, I will fuckin’ choke slam you into a coffee table, with any luck it will be one of those old school antique coffee tables that was made out of the really good wood from deep in the fucking forest and not that Ikea bitch that explodes like a fucking stunt table. I will put you right through it, and pull you up by your god damn larynx and then right through the dry wall, my hand would be disappearing into the wall like I just fisted a fucking horse. Then I’d pull you out, you’d have plaster all over your fucking hair, you’d be deprived of 3 quarters of your oxygen, and you’d start to cry. Then I’d just whisper into your ear, really calmly, like one of those bad guys in one of those great 80’s movies with Mel Gibson, or fucking Stallone or whatever, where once the goons would get him tied up and the head bad guy that’s running bitch would come in all relaxed with his dress shoes and suit and would just come up and put his face like parallel to the other dude’s face and just come in and whisper in the guy’s ear nice and calmly. That’s what I’d do to you, as you’re struggling to breath, I’d put my head right next to your ear and just be like “If you ever post in this section again, I will fucking kill you. You understand me? The only reason you’re not dead right now is because I haven’t figured out how to get away with it yet. If you even come in this section again, I swear to god, I will grab you by your fucking baby fat and the top of your fucking head and I will throw you upside down through a bay window” As you sit out there in the rain, picking the glass and the wood shards out of your body, I’m gonna take a tray of hot macaroni and throw it right on your fucking face. That’s what I’ll do if you ever post here again.

>> No.1956684

>>1956677
But popularity does not determine the worth of the creation. You've got the music industry as a shining prime example.

>> No.1956686

Holy shit.
I don't even know where to start making fun of you. This is like when an elite hitter gets a fat BP fastball and he panics because he doesn't expect it.
Did you even read the post? Is your reading comprehension the lowest level possible? Clinically Retarded? Autistic? Drunk? Vision Impaired? Trolling? TDK? Distracted by your own small penis?
I am at a loss. It's like you read the first word of my post, made up your own idea of what the post was going to be, and then just posted what ever shit came out of your ass first. HURR. HURR. DURR.
You should stop posting. Forever. Turn off your computer, unplug it forever, and just walk away. Just walk away.
Dumbest post I've read all year. By far. I honestly believe you don't deserve to breathe anymore. You should be locked in a room, and hooked up to an oxygen machine. Except this machine hold out, giving you no oxygen until the last possible second and you wail and gasp in pain, and gives you a tiny amount, before starting the torturous process all over again. Don't worry, it won't effect your brain like it would normal people who aren't fucking retarded.
C'mon son.

>> No.1956688

>>1956621
it's not. let me use analogy that you can understand: even if you play games 24/7 won't automatically mean that you'll be good at those games. you get good if you put in actual effort to get good. can't do that with mindless grinding.

>> No.1956690

>>1956688
The only way to win, is to not play at all m8. This board is fucked beyond redemption. I should have left in 2012.

>> No.1956691

>>1956688
>can't do that with mindless grinding.
Hold the fuck up, that's exactly what games are designed to be. You're thinking of skilled games like chess or something. Videogames are grinding timedumps.

>> No.1956692

>>1956688

You get good at competitive games by simply watching youtube to learn the mechanics..dumbass. Everything else is just mashing buttons, and you need to do a lot of "mindless" mashing buttons to get good at knowing when to mash a button.

>> No.1956694

>>1956691
Some games take skill, like Dark Souls, but you're overall right.

>> No.1956695

>>1956691
If you grind the same path with the same build, with the same pacing, with varying degrees each time, you will not get better. And you will not pass that path unless you statistically get something thrown into your favor. That, objectively, isn't getting better.

>>1956692
>mashing buttons
get the fuck out shitter, you've obviously never played any fighter games beyond the entry level

>> No.1956696

>>1956684
>But popularity does not determine the worth of the creation.
>Implying he said it does
nice reading comprehension faggot

>> No.1956697

>>1956680
Watch your blood-pressure, BRO. Good lahd.

>>1956681
>back up their skill
>weasel out
You're one of those fags who provoke fights and incite bullshit. Understood. Hey, to each their own. You probably had a shitty upbringing, and I'm not putting you down for being a little special. Also, you're not putting me down. The fucks I don't give are off the chart.

>>1956686
>>1956682
Stop the copypasta.

>> No.1956699

>>1956697
Please do us all a favor and take a knife or pen, whatever you can find with a point, and push it up into your jugular vein. You need to stick that so far into your neck that it comes out the top of your head. You are the stupidest fucking moronic retard I've ever seen post on here and the world would be a better place if you weren't in it. I wish I could go back in time and abort you by finding your mother and kicking her down the stairs, stomping on her stomach and making her drink bleach. Never, ever post here again you stupid cunt muscle.

>> No.1956701

>>1956696
He was buttblasted about people saying that popularity doesn't determine the worth of a creation. Making the implication that he considers that is does. Is english your third language?

>> No.1956702

>>1956697
All those petty insults and still no art. It's like you're scared or something.

>> No.1956703

>>1956688
Yet, you can put in actual effort while also putting in more time, which equals more progression sooner. I don't understand how you aren't seeing this.

>>1956690
The second best time is now. Goodbye.

>> No.1956704

>>1956695

I bet I can beat you in any fighter right now.

>> No.1956705

>>1956702
He's not scared, the denizens of this thread are just newshits and people from other boards, like /v/, /r9k/ and possibly /a/. Business as usual, /ic/ at it's finest. Stop taking the bait and go back to doing something with your life.

>> No.1956706

>>1956647
>you're not living life until I say you do!
Stop posting anon.

>> No.1956707

>>1956704
It's funny but chances are you won't. Plus, seeing how new fighting games are going to be made, according to Itadaki, the guy at the height of DOA, you won't be able to win anyone anytime soon with the button mashing mindset.

>> No.1956708

>>1956699
What did I just say about your blood pressure? I would make a stupid shitty cut and paste joke about your mom or aborting you like some angsty middleschooler just to troll you, but I'm pretty sure this is serious and that your blood pressure will be your undoing before you even reach middle age.

>> No.1956709

>>1956705
>Stop taking the bait
>Quoting someone who is literally baiting
Reeeetard.

>> No.1956710

>>1956708
Go and start a family you disgusting middle-aged loser. Maybe then we won't see anymore of your "is it too late to draw" kind of threads.

>> No.1956712

>>1956709
He isn't baiting, he's calling you out on your shit. There's a difference. And your shit stinks hard.

>> No.1956713

>>1956710
>Go and start a family you disgusting middle-aged loser.
I've never heard that insult before, congrats. However, I have no interest in starting a family. Sorry to inform you. Also, I troll the threads that you claim I start. Just to inform you, since you're pretty out of touch with everything.

>> No.1956714

>>1956712
Maybe, but not as bad as you stink. Also, your reading comprehension is equally deplorable. Perhaps you should take a break from the Internet to try and raise your IQ.

>> No.1956716

>>1956701
>He was buttblasted about people saying that popularity doesn't determine the worth of a creation.
Where?

>> No.1956717

>>1956713
Hah, of course you aren't, you old degenerate cuck. Who'd want to start a family with the likes of you. At what point do you take a step back and realize
>this is my life right now
>shitposting on a chinese imageboard

On the other hand, I'm kinda glad you won't be procreating at all.

>> No.1956719

>>1956708
I can smell the pathetic musk on the faggots that start these kind of threads. HURR DURR youre on 4chan at 11 pm on a Saturday night so you must be a no pussy getting beta. NEWS FLASH, not everyone lives in the same fucking timezone. The nights still young where I live and I'm watching some games before I go out tonight. If watching sports makes before I go out with some bros to a party makes me beta in your eyes then youre a fucking faggot that has ZERO friends. I even kind of feel bad calling you a faggot over the internet because of how pathetic I know you are. Does it make you feel better about yourself to tell yourself that there are people just as pathetic as you? inb4 all the LOL U MAD faggots. I could care less if people think this is just me getting mad that I'm staying in because thats not what is actually happening. People actually get excited when i walk into a party because im not some beta pussyless shut in that has to make themselves feel better to imagine that other people are doing the same to repress the fact that their a fucking loser and everyone that knows them thinks so too. I've already been pregaming it for awhile with some FRIENDS and am 8-9 beers deep or else I wouldn't even waste the time dignifying this thread with a response. Get a fucking life and shut the fuck up faggot.

>> No.1956721

>>1956714
LOL well I'm young and you're not
so long faggot

>> No.1956722

>>1956717
What I choose to do in my free time is up to my discretion. I've lived more of a life already than you will by the time you're in the grave, and I'm not even 30 yet. I would put you down more, but it's not really worth it. You're putting yourself down more than anyone else ever could.

>> No.1956724

>>1956722
>the amount of edge in that post
Man are you on drugs or something? That was really cringeworthy.

>> No.1956725

>>1956627
Damn this is gonna be good

>> No.1956726

>>1956722
>I've lived more of a life already than you will by the time you're in the grave, and I'm not even 30 yet
Prove it

>> No.1956727

>>1956719
Holyshit. Someone put this in Urban Dictionary under the term MAD.

>>1956721
Define young. I'm not really old, but at a ripe old age where I can laugh at and enjoy the younger retards with less developed brains.

>>1956724
>are you on drugs or something
>claims I am the cringeworthy poster

>> No.1956728

>>1956719
>trying this hard to look right

>> No.1956731
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>>1956641
>The more hours you clock in the better.
>Clocking hours

Have you ever met anyone that "clocks hours"? They don't do shit, just drag their feet racking up the time for that fat paycheck. People have taken this whole "10K hours" spiel and transformed it into some weird hourly self-hire gig where every hour "clocked" pays out imaginary artist credits.

Fucking "clocking hours" training for a career that pays by salary or commission, are you goddamned serious?

>> No.1956732

cаcайте лалки)))
крон

>> No.1956733

>>1956726
Don't have to. Suck my dick.
>notevenjelly

>> No.1956735

>>1956727
You are the most contradictory, immature, disease infected sons of bitch ive never met in my entire life. with the exception of a few, i would never do anything to help you. if you were dying of thirst i would spit in your mouth and bitch-slap you. if you needed a ride, id hit you with my car, back up and do it again. if you needed directions, id send you straight to hell. if you were held hostage, id call in SEAL team 6, fast rope from a Blackhawk just to tell you "no, i dont know that feel bro", then go back in the chopper and go home to sleep soundly to the thoughts of your beheading and subsequent video posting on liveleak. if you were fighting 1k Agent Smiths, id get some popcorn and enjoy your beatdown. if you had a headache, id carve our your eyeballs with a rusty spoon and skull-fuk you while saying singing the cupcake song.
Look, you fat phuck... Let me lay out the truth for you, seeing as you appear to be completely delusional about yourself, men, women, and life in general.
You ARE fat. In fact, you're obese. Yes, your tits are large but in no way shape or form are they desireable. They most likely hang like an African tribal chick's. That's just the way it is, you can't help it, but the least you can do is admit it and stop trying to come off as a more rationally responsible poster than anybody else - because anybody with half a brain can see through your bullsht charade.
Shyt, to be blunt, you don't even have an attractive face. You talk about how many chubby chasers there are out there and how many dudes that want to smash you... Well, sorry to break it to you luv, but the guys that want to smash you just recognize you as an easier target than a girl they'd consider, potentially, out of their league. No 'chubby chaser', given the choice, is going to choose your moley fat face over an athletic, fit woman with facial aesthetics. It's just that simple, mate.

>> No.1956736

>>1956731
>Fucking "clocking hours" training for a career that pays by salary or commission, are you goddamned serious?

Ironic we're talking about a guy who is making more money than an IT guy out of college.

>> No.1956737

>>1956735
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

>> No.1956738

>>1956735
Dude, no one is even going to read that. Are you retarded? I don't even know if it's copypasta because I'm not reading past the first comma.

>> No.1956739

>>1956732
не получилоcь в архитектуре пошёл риcовать анимешниц? ничё может через пару лет добьёшьcя.

>> No.1956740

>>1956733
>several posts bragging about how his life is the shit
>has no balls to prove it
Barking dogs never bite

>> No.1956741
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>this thread

>> No.1956742

>>1956739
Ну давай разберем по чаcтям, тобою напиcанное )) Складываетcя впечатление что ты реально контуженный , обиженный жизнью имбицил )) Могу тебе и в глаза cказать, готов приехать поcлушать?) Вcя та хуйня тобою напиcанное это проcтое пиздабольcтво , рембо ты комнатный)) от того что ты много напиcал, жизнь твоя лучше не cтанет)) пиздеть не мешки ворочить, много ваc таких по веcне оттаяло )) Про таких как ты говорят: Мама не хотела, папа не cтаралcя) Вникай в моё поcлание тебе< поcтарайcя проанализировать и cделать выводы для cебя)

>> No.1956743

>>1956737
Did you know that what you are talking about is limited by your false sense of reality? Maybe if you studied just a little bit harder while in school you wouldnt be blinded by these fallacies that have cast a cloud over your judgment. I once knew a guy like you who had everything he could ever want but in the end it meant nothing, because he never knew his true place in the grand scheme of things. Im not trying to tell you how to live your life but, honestly buddy I think its time you stepped down off of your high horse and looked life square in the eyes.

>> No.1956744

>>1956740
So who are you and why do I have anything to prove to you?
>didn't think so

>> No.1956745

>>1956742
иди блядь на двач cвой ебучий обратно, никто у ваc руccких нихуя риcовать не умеет.

>> No.1956746

>>1956745
Well let's look at , what you wrote )) Seems like you're really a contused , mentally injured imbecile )) I can say this face to face ,how about you come and listen?) All this bullshit that you wrote is just plain simple fucking lies , you indoor rambo)) your life wouldn't get better cuz you wrote a lot)) bullshiting isn't a hard job, lots of fags like you melted in spring )) People say about fags like you: Mom didn't want it, dad didn't even try) Read my message to you closely and try to analise it and make some conclusions for yourself)

>> No.1956747

>>1956746
ты тот же имбицил что риcовал медведя? я те блядь cказал чё учить, пошёл нахуй

>> No.1956748

Вcе Амерекоcы долбаёбы
Путин ваш рот ебал

>> No.1956749

>>1956746
>>1956744
You know what boys? I'm better than you will ever be, and I'm a girl myself. I'm PROUD to be an independent woman. You were making fun of one of my friends here, but now you're dealing with me
I'm richer than you'll ever be, I make close to a million a year by myself, and this is just the beginning. Next big billionare? With a womans touch I think so!
Women have only been kept down because our power, our intellect is too dangerous for the patriarchy. We ARE the original nuclear weapons
I'm stronger than you'll ever be, I squat 400 lbs and I'm a master of krav maga and jujitsu. If you lay a scrawny little finger on my I will break every bone in you and carry you to the nearest emergency room like a little sack of potatoes
If you think you're smarter than me? I've gotten perfect grades and gone to ivy league, got a law degree in 2 years with no studying and an MBA at 22. What are you doing, dicking around in community college?
I can hit a penny with a .45 from a 100 meters away, I can speak 5 languages and I'm fluent in 3 programming languages. I'm better than you at video games, sports, and I'll be the one at the workplace you gotta suck up to if you wanna have a chance. I have a wonderful husband now who makes 6 figures, is tall, muscular and handsome in a suit yet knows his place as an equal beside us women.
That's right "broseph", get back in the kitchen and make me a smoothie, a girl is in charge here!

>> No.1956751

>>1956747
>>1956748
>>1956749
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>> No.1956753

>>1956749
If you're going to feminism copypasta at least pick something shorter so I am motivated enough to read it.

>> No.1956757

откуда же вы нах берётеcь то, cука гниды ебланные вмеcто того чтоб войти на борд и увидеть нормальные трэд я натыкаюcь на эту хрень

Ебал я ваc в рот и зад фалоcом чё нельзя нахуй не поcтить чужь вcякую

>> No.1956759

>>1956757
ОБАМА СУКА ОБЕЗЬЯНА

>> No.1956761

>>1956753
That's a very short text though. If you aren't able to read more than 10 lines it means you're a uneducated pleb that should kill himself

>> No.1956766

>>1956761
>making assumptions
It's not that I'm unable to. It's that you're too stupid to post something shorter. If it's copypasta then it likely isn't witty, or worth reading. Thus, the time expenditure is not worth.

Lets discuss which one of us is the uneducated pleb shall we? Never mind, we both know it's you.

>> No.1956771

Golden thread never change /ic/ i love you all.

>> No.1956775

>>1956757
Так делай cвой трэд, умник. Может хватит проёбывать время на бордах?

>> No.1956779

hitler did nothing wrong

>> No.1956780

>>1956766
>the time expenditure is not worth.
You're arguing with anonymous shitposters on a shitty derailed thread on a taiwanese cartoon imageboard. You're retarded if you think you're not already wasting "worthy" time by browsing this site and replying to shitposters like you
Pleb.

>> No.1956782

>>1956780
Why do you care what I do in my free time retardo? If you want to ride around on your high horse, you should probably not complain about someone for doing something and then do the exact same thing in your own post. I mean, pot kettle, etc. Pleb fits you dramatically well.

>> No.1956787

>>1956782
Why do you care what I do in my free time retardo? If you want to ride around on your high horse, you should probably not complain about someone for doing something and then do the exact same thing in your own post. I mean, pot kettle, etc. Pleb fits you dramatically well.

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>>1956480
so how the fuck this is "sameface"?
you are literally retarded

>> No.1956798

>>1956742
>рембо ты комнатный
kek

>> No.1956799

>>1956796
Because he didn't even look at the art. He just saw big eyes and immediately made assumptions based on the style. Then his jelly got the best of him, and he started venting in this thread. Same story with most of these retards really.

>> No.1956818

>>1956569
holy nostalgia

>> No.1956845
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1956845

>This thread

Stay golden, /ic/

>> No.1956973

this has been a very productive day.

>> No.1956982
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1956982

best thread ever. Goes from talking about a guy who actually makes a living from art to mindless bickering and art "challenges". This is why I love /ic/.

>> No.1957043
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1957043

>mfw I'm actually one of the backers on Patreon