Alternative Art/Stylization General

[Anonymous No.1954228]

Anime/Manga/Cartooning Thread

"To any man who has slaved to acquire skill in his art, it is most irritating to have his ability referred to as a gift. Perhaps there is one genius in a hundred years or more who can achieve perfection by divine inspiration. I have never met such a man, and I do not know any successful artist who did not get there by the sweat of his brow."

Previous Thread: >>1949863

A general message to aspiring artists: "Lack of knowledge can be greater torture than the effort of acquiring it. When all is said and done, nature is your best instructor."

Submit your drawings, receive feedback or critique others! Share your knowledge and remember to thank those who've critiqued or red-lined your drawings. Most importantly, have fun.

This thread is meant for artists who might want to try to make stylized work in-between their studies. It is strongly recommended that you use this thread in conjunction with learning the elements and fundamentals of art. You can also discuss the visual elements of various professional artists as well if you keep it relatively articulate and civil.

>Fresh off the boat? Read the fucking sticky!
http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-draw-learn

https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
>Proko
http://www.proko.com/videos/
>Ctrl+Paint
http://ctrlpaint.com/
>Hitokaku Index
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~zm5s-nkmr/
>0033
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=59317
>List of active livestreams
http://livestreamstatuslist.appspot.com/
>fellowBro's books
http://mediafire.com/?i44dwzkf9j9n8
>Tutorial/Reference Collection
http://pinterest.com/characterdesigh/
>Japanese Animu Tutorials
http://iradukai.com/
>Figures
http://reference.sketchdaily.net/

Remember the words of our good friend Glen Vilppu: “No rules, just tools.”

/ic/: "Post your work fgt"

[Anonymous No.1954300]

I know the perspectives a bit fuckey
so I might just redo the whole thing

[Anonymous No.1954313]

>>1954300
Looks like it would be good for a name

[Anonymous No.1954319]

>>1954300
do another one, similiar to this. so you wont feel that you have finished one, you will feel that you have finished two pieces. hwere did you get your idea of city from?

[Anonymous No.1954339]

>>1954313
?
>>1954319
the city came from some old blade runner concept work, I really liked the idea of these massive imposing buildings.

[Anonymous No.1954367]

>>1954339
Don't you know what a name is? Hmm it's basically a rough draft of a comic, with just enough drawings to help you understand what's going on in the story.

[Anonymous No.1954368]

>>1954339
oh i remember the scene it was MCs house balcony.

[Anonymous No.1954369]

>>1954367
They're called thumbnails. Don use Japanese when English will do.

[Anonymous No.1954418]

i wanna do more monochromes

[Anonymous No.1954431]

>>1954317
>I really like when people draw the 2hus in such a way that reflects their true power and nature.

We share a common point of view.

[Anonymous No.1954453]

> old coloured sketch
> want redo
> obvious issues circled ('tard tail, potato hand, incorrect collar)
> also total redesign of kimono

Anon points out more failures?

[Anonymous No.1954468]

>>1954453

the pose is weird, it's too jagged and looks uncomfortable, the old adage is "try standing like that"

the coloring is too harsh, it looks like you tried to do a soft blend and it failed

neck is too elongated and her right shoulder is too low

the waist wrap looks just plain weird

but i'd like to see it reworked, keep us posted

[Anonymous No.1954482]

How to draw these kind of lines? My hand writing is awful. I can't control my hand right while writing. Is it possible to have bad muscle memory? Autism? I scared.

[Anonymous No.1954503]

>>1954431
>2hu's being anything but cum sluts
pssh

[Anonymous No.1954504]

>>1954482
>I can't control my hand right while writing
>Autism
slow down there cowboy. Could be that you have such bad nerves or spaztic, so a dose of adderall would help

[Anonymous No.1954514]

>>1954482

On curved lines like that it's better to go faster to avoid shakiness.

If you want REALLY clean lines get a set of french curves.

[Anonymous No.1954518]

>>1954482
>Chinese
And those lines are just a regular G-pen. It even looks like it's from Clip Studio Paint.

[Anonymous No.1954570]

>>1954468
Thank you thorough anon.

> pose
Poses like this are a staple of certain styles of Moonland dance.

> waist wrap
Wearing it tilted was standard the last time this style of moonrobes was relevant outside of dancing costume. Unless anon means something else?

[Anonymous No.1954573]

>>1954482

Am curious to see sample of anon's handwriting. Might be helpful in determining what needs do.

Very basics: grasp pen correctly. Do not squeeze, it only prevents your muscles from working properly.

For long lines, move entire arm, not just wrist and hand.

Feel free to turn paper around to circumvent awkward angles.

Have proper, accurate sketch/underdrawing. Do a few "ghost lines" (mimic action of drawing the line but keep tool barely off paper) before drawing the line.

Only use French curves and such for inanimate objects and abstracts.

[Anonymous No.1954670]

some random character design i'm workin' on.

[Anonymous No.1954672]

>>1954670
It's just a face, dude.

[Anonymous No.1954678]

>>1954672
that's just what i have done that isn't super sketchy and bad looking

[Anonymous No.1954681]

>>1954678
Didn't really look like a guy

[Anonymous No.1954690]

>>1954681
I'm pretty pitiful at drawing masculine features to be honest.

[Anonymous No.1954705]

>>1954690
>that long ass nose

Don't make the mistake of alot of anime artists. Usually the female ones that draw yaoi.

[Anonymous No.1954709]

>>1954670
windows xp? utorrent? keeping anything but the color wheel open? stabilizer on 14? both menus to the left? what the fuck

[Anonymous No.1954711]

>>1954705
No, damn you. It looks sexy.

[Anonymous No.1954713]

>>1954709
You forgot
>1280x1024

[Anonymous No.1954715]

>>1954690
Don't worry, I suck too.
Bad habits need to be taken care of, though.

[Anonymous No.1954716]

>>1954705
ok, is this any better? I scootched his eyes down and messed with his nose some?.

[Anonymous No.1954717]

>>1954711

no it doesnt. when i see fan art (usually superwholock shit) done in this style I 180 the fuck outta there

[Anonymous No.1954718]

>>1954716
That does look better.

[Anonymous No.1954719]

>>1954709
It's a laptop from like 2005. I'm poor ok. And I don't use utorrent, the last person who used this computer had it and i haven't bothered with it.

i didn't even notice the stabilizer was that high and that one slider thing was up, to be honest

i do however like the color swatch thing. sorry.

[Anonymous No.1954721]

>>1954716
>>1954718
Nope. Men have larger and more pronounced noses in general. That looks like an asian dude at best, and a bad animu guy at worst.

[Anonymous No.1954722]

>>1954716
also just became super girly. give him some long hair, a skirt, and call it a day

[Anonymous No.1954723]

>>1954719

its ok anon i had a shit tier vista laptop til like last year

[Anonymous No.1954725]

>>1954723
Like, I got this laptop for free from someone super sketchy and i'm at least 89% sure it was stolen from my brother's middle school.

I plan on upgrading to something decent when i have enough money but it takes a bit.

[Anonymous No.1954727]

>>1954723

its ok i only got mine because my dad died

that piece of shit laptop cost me 1 human soul

[Anonymous No.1954733]

>>1954722

[Anonymous No.1954734]

>>1954733

she could pass for a butchy girl, like samus or something

[Anonymous No.1954735]

>>1954733
First nose was too long, second is too small, something in between would be perfect. The main thing I'm seeing though is the eyes are very girly.

Also, would bang.

[Anonymous No.1954738]

>>1954716
this is shitty and quick, but i think it's your main prob

i would do the eyes a lot different, but that's in your style

[Anonymous No.1954739]

>>1954738
explanation, basically make the eyes more slim or long not so rounded, and males tend to have not so slanted eyes, the slant is much more slight or reverse in comparison, unless you're going for that look on purpose

[Anonymous No.1954740]

So like >>1954715

[Anonymous No.1954742]

>>1954740
To >>1954739
Fuck

[Anonymous No.1954743]

>>1954735
okay, how about this?

[Anonymous No.1954744]

>>1954743
Looking slightly asian, not sure if that's what you're going for, but it def looks like a guy, and the style is nice. Head might be a little long, but that seems like a stylistic choice, and it doesn't really look bad tbh.

[Anonymous No.1954752]

>>1954709
>utorrent
not good? what do you use?

[Anonymous No.1954754]

>>1954752
qBittorrent

[Anonymous No.1954755]

>>1954752
>>1954754
meh, i use utorrent.. i just download shit and close the application. it does the job at the best speed i can get on this shitty internet of mine.

[Anonymous No.1954756]

>>1954743
Ears are too small btw.

[Anonymous No.1954767]

Don't worry, I'm bad, I know.

I decided to ink this thing so it would show better, then I messed up a lot. I didn't ink the legs because I want to finish them later.

Anyways, I realized that my lower body was way too small and I lassoed it to try and fix it.

Wondering if I fixed it properly, if anything else is wrong, and what just straight up looks bad.

[Anonymous No.1954770]

>>1954767
>the legs
I meant the feet.

[Anonymous No.1954772]

>>1954767
too skinny, looks like a husk.. i think you can benefit from this piece of advice the most,

don't get attached to anything you do at this stage. look at your refs, look at real girls, google anatomy images, search for sexy pictures of girls, give more form, more volume, more curves, some fat, watch the fuck out for contour disease! meaning don't focus so much on the countour! use shapes and basic forms to outline the body first, gesture, whatever, i know this paragraph is terrible, deal with it. don't focus on the minor details (the face etc) yet, you're not at that stage! unless you're doing a portrait. work fast, fast, fast. do that picture 5-10 times quick, and pick the best one, delete the others, they are shit. slap a monkey, slap yourself, and like i said, don't fucking get attached to anything at this stage.

[Anonymous No.1954785]

>>1954772
Thanks man.

I've noticed that I always make the figure skinnier as I work it more. My initial sketch had a lot more volume in the midsection.

But yeah, thanks a lot, really gives me an immediate goal to work towards.

[Anonymous No.1954792]

>>1954670
Finished the lineart for this guy.

[Anonymous No.1954793]

critiques welcome

[Anonymous No.1954808]

>>1954792
That isn't long enough anon. Next time try to pay closer attention to your reference.

[Anonymous No.1954833]

>>1954793
It looks nice, but the position of the legs doesn't look a lot like walking, she looks like she's half heartedly posing. Assuming that she's walking, anyway.

[Anonymous No.1954850]

>>1954808
awesome

[Anonymous No.1954853]

>>1954670
what's ur tumlr

[Anonymous No.1954858]

>>1954793
I rike

[Anonymous No.1954861]

>>1954808
big improvement!! i really do tend to struggle with making things too short, i'll definitely start working on that.

[Anonymous No.1954907]

>>1954861
Glad I could help.

[Anonymous No.1954942]

>>1954573
French curves?

[Anonymous No.1954998]

>>1954942
See img. Anyway, reason to not use rulers/similar for organic shapes is that it makes the form lifeless.

>>1954792
hands too small

>>1954793
- tail (?) looks like a furry turd, is this meant to be something like a slightly curled puffy fox tail?
- are the ears hers or just decs on the hat? Looks like the latter now, angle is unnatural and form painfully flattened for former.
- arms should be just slightly longer
- cameltoe looks weird due to the two weak crease lines
- think hard if you need to have a highlight on the v-right labium
- full curve of shade on v-right C-shape of the front part of her dress makes no sense for direction of light
- nice balance of detail, only head/shoulder area seems tad cluttered, perhaps reduce detail in hair?
- more deep shadows would be welcome

[Anonymous No.1955000]

>>1954998
>French curves
>Germany

[Anonymous No.1955001]

Making this quick, /fa/ thread is dead so can't link refs.
3 > 4 > 5 > 2 > 1

Out of town for this week - I expect everyone will git gud by the time I get back...

[Anonymous No.1955006]

>>1955000
Germany?

[Anonymous No.1955007]

Kill me, i spent too long for this as a request

[Anonymous No.1955011]

>>1955007
shit

[Anonymous No.1955012]

>>1955001
I love your art dood

[Anonymous No.1955077]

How to draw face in front view right? I don't have "3d feeling". It's getting even worse when you draw from refs. Front view is pure nightmare

[Anonymous No.1955135]

could someone help me setting up smuge tool properties so it would blend stuff nicely ? photoshop.

[Anonymous No.1955176]

basic coloring helps me think about the objects. also the 'more butt' button is gonna be replaced by something else later on

[Anonymous No.1955195]

>>1955001
learn to hands

[Anonymous No.1955251]

>>1955176
Dunno about this style

[Anonymous No.1955381]

>>1955012
>art
Can't tell if bait - these are more like drawings than art - thanks (if not bait)

>>1955195
>hands
Got it, it's in the mental queue for next week. I have the memory of a goldfish so hopefully I don't forget.

[Anonymous No.1955475]

>>1955381
Of course it's art; drawing is art.

[Anonymous No.1955499]

>>1955475
smearing shit on canvas is also an art
do you compere your drawing to shit smeared on canvas ? I dont. I dont do art.

[Anonymous No.1955518]

>>1955499
Oh, we got THAT guy.
Great.

[Anonymous No.1955578]

>>1955006
Germany

[Anonymous No.1955744]

I...don't even know anymore. I should go back to studies.

[Anonymous No.1955745]

>>1955744
Yuuup

[Anonymous No.1955752]

I need some help here. Around how much should a commission of this level priced at?

[Anonymous No.1955757]

>>1955752
$5

[Anonymous No.1955759]

>>1955752
It depends on a lot of subjective shit besides skill.
Maybe 50 I don't know.

[Anonymous No.1955761]

>>1954793
She looks a little off balance, like she'd topple over to our right. Pay attention to the load bearing leg and make sure the weight distribution makes sense.

Her load bearing leg looks like it's bent at the shin when it should be a lot more vertical.

The curvature at the top of her right leg is the reverse of what it should be. The lower abdomen/crotch area should overlap that leg from our vantage point, not the other way around.

The cameltoe is unnecessary and reads like a front butt in a way.

[Anonymous No.1955764]

>>1955752
that vagina makes me want to puke

[Anonymous No.1955765]

>>1955764
It's pretty crap, yeah. I believe this is an 'uncensored' edit of sorts.

[Anonymous No.1955779]

>>1955499
You should really grow up and break the cheesy fantasy of yours, especially if you're aiming for a professional artist.

[Anonymous No.1955794]

>>1955752
her crotch looks like a barfing dog no offense

[Anonymous No.1955795]

>>1955752
Give me 10 USD and I'll take it off your hands.

[Anonymous No.1955797]

>>1955794
I can't stop laughing!

[Anonymous No.1955800]

>>1955794
Can't unsee, oh holy shit.

[Anonymous No.1955801]

>>1955794
Oh fuck, with the nose and all.

[Anonymous No.1955865]

Trying to work more with tone, but it is giving me problems.

[Anonymous No.1955933]

fanart for a shit show
I'm guessing the arms are too long compared to the legs

and a big issue is that I am absolutely shite at colors and I completely guessed the hair.
any tips on which hues and values to choose? under examples, like in bright sunlight or just in general.

[Anonymous No.1955954]

>>1955752
20-40 USD
maybe 50 if your lines werent shakey

[Anonymous No.1955956]

>>1955954
>Barfing dog vagina
$10

[Anonymous No.1955958]

>>1955933
Color is the least of your problems right now.

[Anonymous No.1955962]

>>1955933
>Looks like someone needs to hit the sticky.

[Anonymous No.1955979]

[Anonymous No.1955986]

>>1955933
>I'm guessing the arms are too long compared to the legs
They are too long, but the legs are also too short.

[Anonymous No.1956051]

>>1955979
pretty nice

[Anonymous No.1956169]

[Anonymous No.1956209]

>>1955979
those look great
do you have a site?

[Anonymous No.1956451]

>>1955956
> would pay $10 for barfing dog vagina

[Anonymous No.1956459]

ugh... went through too many revisions for this one

[Anonymous No.1956463]

>>1956459
I like it
Good taste in pokemon

[Anonymous No.1956506]

>>1955011
>bored_animu_girls+touma_one_eye.jpg

[Anonymous No.1956508]

>>1955954
There are people who would pay 20-60$ for this?

Holy shit, I need to start drawing porn

[Anonymous No.1956509]

>>1956459
You know why this is awesome? Because it looks like Darkstalkers character art. That's awesome. You're awesome.

[Anonymous No.1956512]

>>1956508
MAYBE 20

Not a cent over that, no.

[Anonymous No.1956689]

>>1955933
Please, just imagine how she'd look if she stood up.

[Anonymous No.1956853]

could I get some input on the coloring of >>1956597

I know the facial proportions are a lost cause but im more worried about the coloring, which is bugging me for some reason

[Anonymous No.1956869]

>>1956853
>furryshit
Burn it with fire.

[Anonymous No.1956875]

started four months ago, read "Figure for it's worth" and watched Vilppu on gesture, I know shit about perspective even if i'm not proficient with foreshortening, but I am aware of theory behind it.

My all drawings right now look like this.
What's the weakes part about it?
What should I practice with for improvement?
Hints, leads please?
I'm confused since different people tell me entirely different stuff.
>go draw nthing but cubes and primitives for two years and you magically become a master
>go study classical art with a pencil
>go trace some photos
>do shitload of sketches and Oekaki
>keep trying to draw something too complex that you're not good enough for for weeks and you'll become good enough eventually
>DON"T WAST TIME ON TOO COMPLEX DRAWING
>DO IT
>DONT
>YOU NEED PENCIL
>YOU DON"T
I'm lost.

[Anonymous No.1956879]

Some costumes.

[Anonymous No.1956882]

>>1956875
stop worrying about what to draw and just fucking draw

[Anonymous No.1956883]

>>1956875
My very first drawing for comprssion.

The difference between them is that this one took me two weeks of effort and anoying my friend for redlines and hints. and that ( >>1956875)
new one took me one evening.

I suppose I suck the most with the colors and shades, right?
What do I do to improve on that field?

[Anonymous No.1956884]

>>1956879
it's been like 2 month since i saw the same picture. make something new.

[Anonymous No.1956887]

>>1956875
Anatomy. Face is too small, hands are too big, proportions are off, clavicle is too low, study anatomy and learn how to put forms in perspective.

[Anonymous No.1956889]

>>1956875

There really is no right answer, just draw.

The only advice that's generally on point is to draw from observation so you ca build a good base and to make sure that you don't get stuck in your comfort zone.

Although I wouldn't recommend tracing, you don't learn very much from it.

[Anonymous No.1956890]

>>1956884

I was away on business and it's the last thing I have, unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.1956934]

>>1956875
>>1956883

Looks like there's some improvement which is good. At this point what you need is the mileage. You need to draw, you need some studies, you need to practice and reiterate fundamentals, you need to actively try different things. Right now you're too self-conscious. You need to just do.

[Anonymous No.1956936]

>>1956875
If you only do digital you will have a hard time putting in the hours of raw practise sketching you need. With pencil + sketchbook, any time you need to wait for something is an opportunity for a quick study.

[Anonymous No.1957032]

How do creative?

[Anonymous No.1957079]

mfw drawthread is dead
mfw the last post in that thread was 2 days ago
mfw the quality of drawthread went to shitter
mfw alt thread has now better quality

[Anonymous No.1957087]

>>1957079
>>1955368

[Anonymous No.1957089]

>>1957079
the drawthread is still going normally. better lay off the weed anon.

[Anonymous No.1957094]

>>1957089
it is

but it was dying with no interest

there was not even a link to a new thread in it.

[Anonymous No.1957129]

>>1957032
you either do or you dont bud

[Anonymous No.1957138]

>>1957032

Do new shit. Go try something you never tried before. Go take a walk around the block. Go read a book or watch a movie or something.

Creativity has a lot to do with life experiences. If you feel you aren't creative enough, go out and experience new shit and actively engage. Mindlessly doing shit is not helping.

[Anonymous No.1957149]

>>1957138
Hmm. That's good advice. I think I just need to loosen up more than anything. I'm so desperate to do something "good" that I just don't do anything haha

[Anonymous No.1957184]

I need help, and this is the best thread to ask so here goes. I am new to art, but I think I have a decent enough foundation to at least draw basic characters. I'm having a rough time with the eyes though. I have this obsession about making everything 100% perfect with the eyes. I will spend literally hours on the eyes alone. Aligning them and messing with them until they look perfect. I think I just realized how much of a waste of time this is, but I need clarification. Eyes are always changed and doing different things independently of each other. Eyes rarely ever look perfectly symmetrical, and I noticed that a lot of artists aren't exactly anal about the eyes being perfectly aligned and symmetrical. How do I get out of this mindset, and just relax and make the eyes loosely instead of obsessing over this shit?

[Anonymous No.1957185]

>>1957184
Show your stuff or else we can't help.

[Anonymous No.1957195]

>>1957185
Let me rephrase my question since it was worded like it was written by a 1st grader.

Does anyone here know any tips, tricks, or guideline templates that can help me line up the eyes easily on a stylized character, so basically huge eyes, that I can use as guides for when I draw them while maintaining some kind of uniformity and soundness. I use 2 lines for the top and bottom of the eyes that go across the head. It rarely works out for me. The irises are always different sized or just plain wrong. I've tried drawing tons of faces, but I just can't get the eyes to work. There's always something off with them. Either the angles are wrong, the tilt, the irises, the innereye fleshy area, the top isn't rounded in the right spot compared to the other eye, etc.

I would post something, but I don't really have anything saved that's worth posting. So just imagine a retarded monkey tried to draw a girl with a stick.

[Anonymous No.1957204]

>>1954228
just a lucario i'm currently working on.
do you like it?

[Anonymous No.1957205]

>>1957204
>do you like it?
lol

[Anonymous No.1957206]

>>1957205
i don't get it.what's so funny?

[Anonymous No.1957207]

>>1957195
I kinda understood what you said before, but honestly it's much better if there's some reference of what you're currently doing to see how bad it is.

[Anonymous No.1957209]

>>1957195
Don't be embarrassed about posting, the board is anonymous. There is some pretty bad shit flying around here.

Think of it like this
>you will never be the worst artist on /ic/
>you will never be the best artist in /ic/

If you are lucky some anon might redline your stuff. Otherwise a general question will get you a general answer
>sticky

[Anonymous No.1957212]

>>1957204
colors hurting my eyes

[Anonymous No.1957221]

>>1957209
>>1957207
Alright, I'm drawing, give me a second

[Anonymous No.1957228]

Alright, I know the drawing is shit and simple, but I don't think giving it more detail will help with the question I had, so here is an example.

Lets say this is my character. When I draw it, the eyes look perfectly fine to me. Then after an hour I start noticing everything messed up with them. I mirror it and notice things that I didn't see before. Like the pupils are slightly off, the irises are different sizes, or one is too much in the wrong direction. Like, I imagine it looks like total shit to someone else, and it makes me want to just give up and redo the entire eye or face.

[Anonymous No.1957241]

>>1957228
That happens to everyone

[Anonymous No.1957259]

>>1957228
When you start becoming less shit your art will start looking worse to you.

Eventually, you'll come to the point to where you can only see the negative things about your art because you're always trying to fix it.

That's when you become a true artist, when drawing isn't fun anymore.

[Anonymous No.1957264]

>>1957228
Yes. Good. Mirror your work for sure. If you use the same perspective the entire time you gradually accept the flaw s of your piece. Rotate, flip, and (lol) hybernate your pieces to get a fresh view.

And now, here's my stuff...

[Anonymous No.1957274]

>>1957264
That sure sucks for someone giving advice

[Anonymous No.1957278]

>>1957259
True that.

[Anonymous No.1957299]

>>1957264
i believe the breast is either too low on the torso or your shoulders are too high

[Anonymous No.1957300]

>>1957274
Welcome to /ic/

[Anonymous No.1957302]

>>1957300
Touche

[Anonymous No.1957303]

>>1957274
what's with all the shitposting on /ic/ lately?

[Anonymous No.1957304]

Alright, thanks for the advice. Fucking eyes. Always having to be the most important aspect of most pictures. You fuck up the eyes, your picture is fucked.

[Anonymous No.1957307]

>>1957303
What, it's the truth.
Being honest is not shitposting.

[Anonymous No.1957308]

>>1957304
>draw nice pic
>rotate and shit
>leave it on the desktop but turn off monitor
>go to sleep
>wake up
>turn on monitor
>its fucking horrible

Luckly I have not had that happen as much, but goddamn

[Anonymous No.1957312]

>>1957307
It's unhelpful and is only meant to rile the artist up. I don't know why so many people operate under the idea that you have to be a godlike artist to give someone feedback.

[Anonymous No.1957317]

>>1957308
Fucking always
Although if you rinse and repeat that it reaches a plateau in which it looks ok.
>>1957312
Stop being a little girl and man up. This is not a place of friendship and hugs.

[Anonymous No.1957318]

>>1957308
Oh god the feels. I've spent days on a picture, and even colored it only to find that when I'm done the face just looks off for some reason. Scrapped that shit and salt for days. Faces are my bane. I can't even move on to more anatomy studies because they fucking want to rape me in my sleep. If I can't do faces right, I might as well just give up.

[Anonymous No.1957319]

>>1957303
>muh feelings
>shitposting

no nigga

>>1957312
Its a fact though nigga.
If you want to be given ther each around by your fans, you can meet your top fan and have them do it while you suck on a shake from Rally's like I did.
Goddamn that shit was awsome

[Anonymous No.1957323]

>>1957312
> people operate under the idea that you have to be a godlike artist to give someone feedback
No, but you have at least be decent.

[Anonymous No.1957326]

>>1957323
Well, I'd rather have at least one decent answer from someone trying to help than a bunch of arguing and no one even glancing at my stupid kindergarten level art questions.

[Anonymous No.1957330]

>>1957323
Honestly, what's so bad about what he posted that you think it illegitimizes anything he says? It's obviously just a simple little thing but I don't think you can just blatantly be like "LOL BAD XD".

Seriously, explain it to me. I'm curious about how your thought processes are working.

[Anonymous No.1957332]

>>1957323
"decent" is subjective, though. It doesn't take a professional artist to be able to point out mistakes or give advice.

[Anonymous No.1957337]

>>1957332
>>1957330
Niggas, cut the bullshit.
That guy can't even draw proper anatomy.
Stop turning this place into DA.

[Anonymous No.1957339]

>>1957337
didn't really respond to either reply though, did you
yes the anatomy in what he posted is shoddy, but how does it invalidate anything else that he said?

[Anonymous No.1957341]

>>1957330
I only meant it as a comment, jeez.
Why are you so defensive? I never said that what he said was wrong.
I just found it funny that some guy with shitty art was giving advice, and I still think it's hilarious and you can't do anything about it.

[Anonymous No.1957342]

>>1957274
Ill just chuck it up to trolling. My feed back was to encourage the guy. If I thought I was better then him or something I wouldn't be posting my art on 4chan. Anywho. I apoligize... I meant no harm.

[Anonymous No.1957344]

>>1957337
Redline it or something, then. Show exactly what you're talking about then it's over with, otherwise that dude is helping more people than you are. Or at least trying, I guess. However you want to look at it. At least he ain't just bitchin'.

[Anonymous No.1957347]

>>1957342
No, as the guy who asked the question, thanks. You gave me some form of feedback and suggestions, and I appreciate it. Don't stop posting just because of this guy.

[Anonymous No.1957348]

This thread really is DA

[Anonymous No.1957349]

>>1957342
Dude, its not your fault this expired jam is on the biscuit. It's just whiteknighting where it didn't need to be happening.
You sound chill, so just keep drinking that bomb ass tea

[Anonymous No.1957350]

>>1957349
It IS my fault. I stocked that jam. I stocked it. Gods help me, I stocked the jam.

[Anonymous No.1957352]

>>1957348
to be honest, DA teir drawings have been becoming 'ironic' on /ic/, but there's the curse that everything that is ironic gets turned into actual train of thought.
Its ridiculous when people [not like the guy in this thread] shit post like that.

[Anonymous No.1957355]

>>1957308
>>1957318
>>1957317

if it's really bad then you ought to look more carefully while drawing it in the first place.
this sounds simple but it's the same as with studying images/subjects: you need to grasp the angles, distances and relationships correctly otherwise you're just drawing distorted shit that only looks good in your mind.

I also used to have images so bad that i couldn't even believe i missed those issues.
now it's not nearly as bad. i'm usually aware of the level of my drawing right away (doesn't mean i can always fix it).

[Anonymous No.1957361]

>>1957228
Well lets say I finished that picture and stuck a body on it and gave it color. How fucked up do the eyes look? Do they ruin the entire picture?

[Anonymous No.1957362]

>>1957355
I've been getting used to using the lasso tool to move stuff around while I sketch, mirroring multiple times and whatnot to have it perfect in the rough sketch.
On the other hand, there's always stuff like not being content with say, a facial expression not fitting the situation and such, which is not exactly an issue with the drawing itself.
Same with poses. Even though they are anatomically correct etc, sometimes you realize you wanted something different.
That's what happens to me.

[cool anon No.1957364]

Do you know a fast way to blend without looking scratchy? I am experimenting lowering the flow.

I guess I am screwing things up again... :(

[Anonymous No.1957366]

>>1957364
Use a watercolor with high blending applying low pressure.

[Anonymous No.1957372]

>>1957349
That guy pissed me off. But this post made my day. Keep on rocking. I'll do the same.

[Anonymous No.1957375]

>>1957342
>>1957303
>>1957323
>>1957330

It would be in your best interest if you developed a thick skin now.

[Anonymous No.1957378]

I got tired of drawing folds, so i decided to draw myself tired while drawing myself being tired, while being tired.

Im still tired.

[Anonymous No.1957379]

>>1957375
MIKUFAG
PLEASE
CONSISTENCCY
JESUS
CHRIST

[Anonymous No.1957380]

>>1957375
I don't know what that even means.

[Anonymous No.1957381]

>>1957379
consistency?

[Anonymous No.1957382]

>>1957380
I think he means... "this place be fucked!"

[Anonymous No.1957383]

>>1957382
Barfing Dog Vagina!

[Anonymous No.1957387]

>>1956506
... shit

[Anonymous No.1957409]

>>1957381
please use lines that stay within the same range
it looks really off putting

[Anonymous No.1957412]

>>1956506
>>1955011

welp, thanks for pointing that out

[Anonymous No.1957416]

>>1957409
What are you talking about? That's exactly what he did. All his lines are the same width and it looks strange BECAUSE of that. You WANT varying line widths.

[Anonymous No.1957419]

>>1957416
the lines are super thin and the eyes make the thin lines nearly look invisible.

[Anonymous No.1957422]

>>1957416
I'm indifferent. The lines are great. Move on to other things and color that bad boy!

[Anonymous No.1957453]

>>1957412
I HAVE THE POWER OF 7 THIRSTY ASS ANIME GIRLS BACKING MY EVERY MOVE BITCH.
EVERY MINUTE THEY YERN FOR MY DICK.
WHATS THAT NIGGA, YOU DONT GET HEAD FROM AT LEAST 3 GIRLS EVERYDAY? IM GONNA NUT SO HARD, YOU'RE WHOLE SQUAD GONNA DIE NIGGA STEP BACK. ALSO I HAVE A COOL ASS HAND CHECK IT OUT.

I love it, jokes aside.

[Anonymous No.1957455]

>>1957453
fuckin kek

[Anonymous No.1957457]

>>1957453
I didn't even read the dood's fanfic but I'm guessing this is pretty much the plot

[Anonymous No.1957459]

>>1957457
>>1957457
if that's the case I would really like to read that. for artistic reasons of course

[Anonymous No.1957462]

>>1957459
Let me see if i can find it in my note archives

[Anonymous No.1957466]

>>1957459
found it

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10493308/1/A-Certain-Defective-Sister


skimming through it, i guess it's about misaka?

[Anonymous No.1957481]

>>1957466
You guys are derailed so hard right now.

[Anonymous No.1957498]

>>1957481
>eye sockets are completly destroyed by a force of nature
>nose is jaded, its pointed up when you have a 3 point tilt up jam [see pic for strawberry jam]
>her lips arent juicy like they should be
>her spine looks like bane had a field day on her blue ass, If you dont belive me then you try drawing her standing
>those hands, you know what you did
>pillowshading on purple part

Try not to mess up my waifu yo.

[Anonymous No.1957538]

>>1957481
i genuinely cant tell if you havent drawn the rest of the cranium yet or if shes just a face on a neck

[Anonymous No.1957590]

jinx skin idea and it dosent seem to be "crazy" or "wild" enough to fit her personality, any suggestions or coloring tips so my sketching mass wont look plain.

[Anonymous No.1957593]

>>1957590
Less clothes. It's a LoL female, which means less clothes.

[Anonymous No.1957596]

Struggled with the shoulders a lot. The left one is supposed to be close and the right far, since her whole torso is at an angle, but it felt like my brain was shutting off every time I tried to figure out how to draw it. It's not even hard, I think I'm just tired.

[RL No.1957600]

>>1957590
Flowing, trailing ribbons and scraps, torn, ragged edges, overall wear and tear on the clothes and weapons and shoes. Also, once you get the facial expression down I think that'd contribute a lot to the overall image. The mask is nice. Maybe an anarchy symbol over the logo on the shoes?

[Anonymous No.1957601]

>>1957596
Do you mean her left or our left?

[RL No.1957602]

>>1957600
>>1957590

Oh yeah and maybe worn kneepads?

[Anonymous No.1957604]

>>1957601
Sorry, our left

[Anonymous No.1957607]

>>1957604
Okay, my advice (if you really wanna keep that image) is open the sides of her coat a bit so you can see the outline of her bust, that'll help to add depth to the drawing to make her pose much more apparent.

[Anonymous No.1957608]

>>1957607
Thanks. I'm done with it for now (I should really go to sleep) but I'll keep that in mind. I didn't think about showing depth through her bust/torso, I was too focused on the shoulders themselves.

[Anonymous No.1957610]

>>1957608
Yeah, I tunnel vision hard like that myself when something is giving me issues. Sometimes shooting outside the box is the best bet.

[Anonymous No.1957611]

>>1957375
work on those folds man!
and dont make the hair lines so paralel and also vary your lineweight

[Anonymous No.1957638]

Drew up two of my characters since I haven't done that in over a year.

[Anonymous No.1957640]

>>1957638
Would read a comic of them/10

[Anonymous No.1957656]

>>1954418
Do you ever vector your work? Could make for a neat sticker

>>1955077
Have you mastered 3/4 view yet? I would start there first. Front view is less forgiving

>>1956169
Watch dem legs. She looks a bit off balance, almost like she has no weight. Do a few more gesture practices.

>>1957378
Did you get any rest? Post your folds so we can give feedback

[Anonymous No.1957661]

>>1957638

You have the most perfect lines. Is that done in vector?

[Anonymous No.1958006]

>>1954228
just fucking around in photoshop

[Anonymous No.1958017]

>>1957638
wow this is fantastic. great lines, interesting shading, design is cool as shit. do u have any specific inspo for that design? I can see a lil old army uniform inspo in there

[Anonymous No.1958032]

>>1957640
Well that's awesome, because I potentially want to make a comic about them.
>>1957661
Thanks, and I used SAI for everything on this.
>>1958017
Wow, thanks man! As for specific inspirations, hard to say. I've been mulling these characters over for a while, but things like Blade Runner, Old City Blues, and other sci-fi and police stories inspired it. I am a big history/military buff, so there's that too. I was also a bit inspired by zedig and the robots in Neil Blomkamp movies when designing the robot cop.

[Anonymous No.1958084]

>>1957656
I did, but im still mentally tired from the slow learning process
pic related: my cloth studies

[Anonymous No.1958230]

>>1954453
>>1954570
>>1954468

Fixed shoulder, neck, potato hand, shortened tail, painted over ugly-ass design.

[Anonymous No.1958287]

How do I obtain this type of style?

[Anonymous No.1958289]

>>1958287
>look at the show
>pause
>draw
>repeat
>do anatomy on the side to understand forms better
>repeat
>?
>profit shekels

[Anonymous No.1958290]

>>1958287
Make waist thinner than neck and its gd to go

[Anonymous No.1958323]

>>1958287
Get out

[Anonymous No.1958324]

Little sketch I ended up colouring.

[Anonymous No.1958328]

Little sketch of Mugi I ended up colouring.

[Anonymous No.1958332]

>>1958328
i like. you should feel honored, i don't say that to just anyone.

[Anonymous No.1958335]

>>1958328
Looks like shit

[Anonymous No.1958341]

>>1958332
Thanks anon~
Here's the actual sketch too since you're so nice!
>>1958335
s-sorry

[Anonymous No.1958349]

>>1958328
Eyes derp hard.

[Anonymous No.1958350]

Work in progress, kind of nervous to start blending
>>1958328
>>1958341
theres something oddly charming about this...

[Anonymous No.1958369]

>>1958349
Oh yea you're right, they do a bit.
This any better?
>>1958350
It's Mugi man! She always looks charming :3
But thank you.

Your painting is looking pretty nice btw! I'd say try to be a bit more careful with your linework. Try to think what line you want to put down before you put it down, since some of the linework is a little sloppy. A little extra effort on the face would help too, since the face is what we are naturally drawn to in a picture.
Otherwise pretty good, don't be scared to start blending.

[Anonymous No.1958387]

this time i'll finish something....

[Anonymous No.1958388]

>>1958341
I'm saving this for shitposting on /v/

[Anonymous No.1958392]

>>1958369
Yeah the linework is a pain in the ass, I I should probably toss my bamboo and upgrade to intuos :/

[Anonymous No.1958393]

>>1958369
The head is not connected to the neck correctly. The eye on the left is also much smaller than the other.

It's pretty stylish and mugi is best girl. I also like the lack-of-linework look, but some edges are rough, like the outside edge of the hair.

[Anonymous No.1958513]

>>1958392
Im done with this for tonight

[Anonymous No.1958537]

>>1957498
>bane had a field day on her blue ass

[Anonymous No.1958558]

in my opinion just adding a pair of crazy eyes makes a complete difference torn clothes or not. true or does she not look crazy yet?

[Anonymous No.1958564]

>>1958558

Somehow I feel that if you gave her some crazy grin it would be better than having a piece that covers the mouth. Just my suggestion.

[Anonymous No.1958565]

>>1958392
I use the bamboo fun, thats not your problem. you're probably going to want to figure out how to turn on the pressure sensitivity. make sure the drivers are up to date and the appropriate boxes are checked in whatever painting program you're using.

[Anonymous No.1958575]

>>1958564
yeah i agree

[Anonymous No.1958579]

>>1958565
blog?

[Anonymous No.1958580]

>>1958564
I don't know how to draw mouths yet so I'm not doing that.

So you think the eyes are good then.

[Anonymous No.1958592]

>>1957259
i'm at that level; always trying to fix my art, but i didn't become less shit at it and i always see the negatives i don't have the skill to even understand how things like hands and hair work at a 2D level, let alone a 3D level.

everything i draw is flat as fuck, even when i try to make it 3D. among other things though, i have a ton of shit to fix before I can even begin to get "better".

[Anonymous No.1958595]

>>1958592
>i have a ton of shit to fix before I can even begin to get "better".

Don't let it overwhelm you. Even masters learn new things all the time. Baby steps.

[Anonymous No.1958597]

>>1958595
i don't feel like i'm learning anything at all.
everytime i seem to draw something it's like someone completely different drew it. eyes are too wide apart, head too small/big, hair doesn't even work, perspective or anatomy is completely wrong 5 mins in, mouth doesn't even work like it should, arms too long or short, hand is broken or isn't even a hand at all, etc etc.

i don't think i've really learned anything drawing in the last year.

[Anonymous No.1958601]

>>1958597
Do studies where you're lacking. Use some damn construction lines and shapes. There is no excuse for having things completely out of shape if you use construction lines. I personally don't use lines because I think better in shapes than when I use the more mechanical based line approach. So silhouettes work perfectly for me. Here's what you do. Figure out proper proportions for what you're trying to draw. Block in a circle for the head, measure while you block in the rest with a large brush, and just get the form. Use the lasso and resize or erase and add shapes as needed until you have a silhouette that resembles what you're trying to draw. Make sure you check the proportions! Measure in heads, find landmarks in the body and learn them well. I use lines for the face, but you can even use a big brush and just add eye sockets into the silhouette, then make sure they are aligned properly and the right size/shape before you opacity down and draw the eyes on top. Construction is a bitch, but you can make it easy. Try different approaches, and take breaks if you're feeling stressed. Being relaxed is a must if you're going to be doing form construction of any type.

[Anonymous No.1958605]

>>1958601
More to this. Flip your canvas. When drawing the sillhouette for the subject, zoom far out so you can see the entire shape easily. Experiment and don't take anything as the only way to start a picture. Proper construction before you go into detailing and rendering is the most important part, unless you have the skill to wing it, but not many do. Don't stress out over it and be sure to have fun. A proper mindset will take you a long way.

[Anonymous No.1958607]

>>1958601
none of those fancy tools that something like SAI offers, sadly. i am stuck using the basics, so its a lot of redrawing and erasing.

[Anonymous No.1958610]

>>1958607
Drawing and erasing works just as well. Hell, I do it myself most of the time. It doesn't matter how messy your initial idea is. Go wild until you come up with something. Warming up before starting anything by drawing a bunch of circles, waves or whatever sometimes helps.

[Anonymous No.1958617]

>>1958610
i usually have my ideas already before i want to draw. i know just how i want it to look, but obviously skill ruins that idea. i still try, but it becomes disappointing to see something which you would have enjoyed drawing before a nightmare before your eyes because of stuff you can't do. like telling someone to fly a jet and just handing them the manual.

really don't think i've ever been happy with anything i've drawn in the last few years, i used to be at a point where i'd draw something and it would look great, but then i'd look at what i drew up to then and my piece that i thought was great becomes trash and i toss it and start the next one.

[Anonymous No.1958620]

>>1958617
be very loose messy and sketchy and decide your final lines afterwards, I promise you, you would be more relax and drawing will be more fun.

[Anonymous No.1958629]

>>1958620
probably need to start over with the basics, fundamentals or whatever again. nothing is seeming to stick, i can be as loose and messy as i want, but if i don't really know where a line is going correctly, i probably shouldn't draw it in the first place.

[Anonymous No.1958635]

>>1958629
>but if i don't really know where a line is going correctly, i probably shouldn't draw it in the first place.

that's the point of being sketchy, you don't have to commit to one line being correct the first time you place it and it acts as a placeholder so you can judge your next line and there's no limit how many lines you can draw over a particular spot. but of course if you want to draw like kim jong un that's another story and drilling basics is also good, whatever helps you find your process.

[Anonymous No.1958730]

anyone in here do comics?

[Anonymous No.1958732]

>>1957259
>That's when you become a true artist, when drawing isn't fun anymore.

Why do anons think having fun and improving are mutually exclusive? You'll never grind out the time necessary to actually get better if you don't like drawing in the first place.

>inb4 have fun being deviant art tier

You can be critical and enjoy the process, just about every artist you like or idolize can.

[Anonymous No.1958735]

>>1958513
Looks like you draw it without approximating her body under the clothes. You are not where you can do that.

[Anonymous No.1958749]

>>1958513
> image
Helmet hair, face too small/low, implied breasts too high and outer line of sweater on chest is weird, v-left shoulder too high and sleeve connection too high.

>others
Sweater needs heavy simple bend lines at elbow and below waist, hand a bit too small, sweater bottom implies rectangular hip shape, thighs and shins too tube-like, bottom half of shins too tapering, right foot lacks heel.

[Anonymous No.1958771]

>>1958749
your red line has the same problem as the other anon, you're both ignoring perspective.

[Anonymous No.1958773]

>>1958771
agree, but easier to fix sketch tier bg than figure

[Anonymous No.1958796]

>>1958730
kinda

[Anonymous No.1958820]

>>1958730
yes.

[Anonymous No.1958822]

>>1958796
are we seeing patreon exlusive material here? you barely post anything public anymore

[Anonymous No.1958839]

>>1956883
I liked the idea behind this, so I thought I'd sketch something.. Except with Asuka. any advice?

[Anonymous No.1958883]

>>1958749
>those breasts
fucking no dude.
goddamnit, no.

[Anonymous No.1958978]

>>1958883
> implying 12 yo breasts at 10 yo height?

[Anonymous No.1958981]

>>1958978
I'm pretty sure he's talking about how the perspective of them are totally off in comparison to the rest of the picture.

[Anonymous No.1958987]

>>1958981
>Update
Ahh true. I the redlinefag will be the first to admit that I intentionally half-assed the boobs due to the sweater's thickness. Still I'll claim it's an upgrade from OP.

[Anonymous No.1959046]

>>1954482

[Anonymous No.1959077]

>>1959046
oh shit lmao

[Anonymous No.1959169]

What do you guys think about the new metal nibs for wacom tablets?
http://alice-books.com/item/show/1113-1

[Anonymous No.1959181]

>>1959169
>http://alice-books.com/item/show/1113-1

As someone who owns a cintiq and just wore down my first nib to uselessness.

>Might want due to durability
>Might not want if it destroys my sceen

I already have a scratch right near the center, and it drives me nuts constantly. I am way past the return date, and afaik there's nothing I can do except avoid it. FML.

[Anonymous No.1959186]

>>1959181
If you look at the bottom of the page there are some nibs with a round tip.

[Anonymous No.1959190]

>>1959186

Might be cool. I'd like to hear from someone who has experience using these. I think I like the felt ones the most since it feels a bit like a marker and gives a good texture feel imo. The hard plastic ones are not my favorites. Problem with the felt tipped ones is that they wear out super fast. Not sure I'd like the cold hard feel of metal though.

[Anonymous No.1959211]

>>1959169
I use sanded toothpick nib lasting me for several months now without any worn unlike plastic.

[Anonymous No.1959213]

>>1959211
Oh shit, that sounds like a cool idea.

[Anonymous No.1959215]

>>1959046
...and then she farts!

[Anonymous No.1959221]

>>1959215
is that supposed to be funny?

[Anonymous No.1959250]

>>1955979
Solid and clean, good job.

[ᆤ No.1959291]

I don't really know where to post this so I might as well post it here.

Do any of you guys provide commissions?
I'm asking here rather than make a thread about it because I would like someone to draw something anime related. And this is a thread specifically about drawing anime type general.

I've looked in other places but haven't found anything good on tumblr or DA that didn't look like shit.

I'm willing to pay between 10 to 100$ depending on the skill and price asked.
Or maybe you can provide me in the right direction / folio or something, I dunno.

[Anonymous No.1959303]

>>1958839
Update. Problems? New to animu

[Anonymous No.1959309]

>>1959291
i take commissions, send me a messege at [e-mail]
ill send you my art samples and if you like what you see then maybe we could make a deal on something

[ᆤ No.1959311]

>>1959309
Alright. Sent.

[Anonymous No.1959318]

>>1959311
my bad its commision.stucphek
it has one s in it

[ᆤ No.1959321]

>>1959318
Ah, right, it just said it failed.

Sending it again.

[Anonymous No.1959322]

>>1959318
*[e-mail]*
sorry shitty keyboard.

[Anonymous No.1959334]

>>1959303
No idea, mine was kinda "what if Rei borrowed witch gear from Yuki"

With this one I tried to make an advance with hair and color

[Anonymous No.1959342]

Hello, this is the first thing I've in a long time. My friends never give me any helpful feed back. =[

[Anonymous No.1959348]

>>1957382
lol Issabel the barfing dog vagina assistant

[RL No.1959354]

>>1959303
Right foot doesn't seem to be bending properly considering her kneecap is facing left. Left foot also a bit wonky.

[Anonymous No.1959355]

>>1959221
Nope. Hot.

[Anonymous No.1959375]

>>1959291
Look on drawcrowd.

[ᆤ No.1959376]

>>1959375
Will do, thanks.

[Anonymous No.1959468]

>>1958796
huh, laying out pages like that is a good idea
>>1958820
You forgot to put your pencil in the shot, how are we supposed to know you used a pencil!

starting to take shape.

[Anonymous No.1959471]

>>1959375
Look at all that bitchin competition yo

[Anonymous No.1959491]

>>1959354
Thanks, anon. I'll fix it.

[Anonymous No.1959544]

Sexy bellies; the one reason I continue to suffer through learning to draw.

[Anonymous No.1959546]

>>1956890
stop milking it and get to work anon. This isn't a place for ass pats.

[Anonymous No.1959557]

>>1958558

Maybe try widening the eyes and fraying the hair a little. Her clothes are fine but her face seems a little too organized.

[Anonymous No.1959570]

???????????

[Anonymous No.1959571]

>>1955744
Try something less risky (perspective) maybe?

[Anonymous No.1959614]

oh, didn't say it before, but thanks for the sage advice guys.

[Anonymous No.1959846]

Time for a new thread?

[ᆦ No.1959859]

>>1959375
Do I just email people who's art looks good or is there a way for me to find out who provides commissions?

[Anonymous No.1959954]

New Thread:

>>1959953
>>1959953
>>1959953

[Anonymous No.1960889]

>>1955979
fucking great, you are one of the few artists on this board who can grasp manga stylistic without "westerness" and "tumblerness"