/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.1950501]

ITT: We talk about bad art supplies that we repent purchasing

>pic unrelated

[Anonymous No.1950511]

Gouache teacher made me buy two cups for water but I only needed one what the fuck

[Anonymous No.1950515]

inb4 anything branded "manga"

[Anonymous No.1950520]

montval sheet papers, they look like cheap disintegrated paper when you wet the paper before doing a wash and stays that way when dried. I'm not sure if the pad ones have the same papers though.

[Anonymous No.1950526]

>>1950501
bought pic related
>bought it since I trusted their brand (they make very nice charcoal pencils that I still use)
>sticky as fuck
>doesn't erase shit
>leaves eraser marks that stick on paper and ruin your paper and art by making the paper sticky
>too soft to the point of not being able to maintain a sharp edge on the eraser to erase small parts
>inflexible as fuck; it detaches even if you pull a little (just like clay)

I threw it in the trash but seriously what the fuck

[Anonymous No.1950548]

>>1950501
I bought a sketchbook with bad paper, well it was 10 dollars but heck im poor ;_;

>>1950526
stick erasers are better

[Anonymous No.1950553]

>>1950548
I actually have stick erasers (mono brand: extremely good), but sometimes, kneaded erasers are better than stick erasers.

[Anonymous No.1950677]

>>1950553

agree

hahaha anyway not that anyone cares but I bought a wacom bamboo intous, its suposed to arrive on friday, I hope it doesnt become a part of this thread

[Anonymous No.1950700]

>>1950501
Charcoal and pastels. Not that they were shit(the pastels were) but I personally can't stand them.
>>1950526
I picked up a similar Faber-Castell eraser that's fairly sticky and very soft, but it picks up way better than a normal kneaded eraser. Comes in bright colors for some reason.

[Anonymous No.1950734]

>>1950700
Do you know if they are the same as pic related?

[Anonymous No.1950780]

Pic related is like painting with glue.
No, that is an asult towards glue.
Its like painting with candlewax

[Anonymous No.1950795]

>>1950501
learn how to rack

[Anonymous No.1950805]

>>1950780

Why would you buy shit acrylics anon?

Even the name sounds like PLEB

[Anonymous No.1950875]

I think some of these might be the result of me doing something wrong, if they are it would be great if someone could lead me into the right direction but I had a bad experience with these things

I bought a daler rowny large firm kneaded eraser, it was very firm. I've had it for a few months now and I've yet to be able to knead it out of it's original shape, you can still see the rectangular shape of it.

I bought another one, I think was Faber Castel, it's like goo, I can't even get it out of the packaging of pick it up let alone use it as an eraser.

I've found poundlands pack of 3 for a pound have been the best I've used so far.

[Anonymous No.1950880]

I bought a pack of pens from faber castel, the 3 fine point pens are great but the brush pen stopped working after a few weeks and the point wasn't as fine as I would have liked. The ink quality was good but it just dried up despite using it everyday and keeping it in a container.

[Anonymous No.1950892]

And lastly a windsor and newton a5 sketchbook
The paper quality is fine and it looked very cool but the thing is falling apart and it's very hard to keep open. I can't open it flat without the use of clips and even then it's stiff in the middle. It's impossible to scan anything from this and is overall unpleasant to use. My hand feels painful after holding it open for 10 minutes. The 2 bits of paper holding the the book to the covers come off easily, one has already broken and if the other breaks the covers will not hold the pages

[Anonymous No.1950899]

>>1950880
That image doesn't show how bad the line is
It's like one of those dried up markers
It's not a nice line

[Anonymous No.1950901]

>>1950734
I don't. All the grey ones I've gotten were labeled "Kneaded Eraser," so I would assume that one is the same as the colored ones since it says Art Eraser.

[Anonymous No.1951418]

>>1950677
It may be. If you don't use tilt then Monoprice might've been a better purchase.

[Anonymous No.1951437]

>>1950734
I have this putty eraser 11/10 would purchase again. I assume the coloured ones are essentially the same thing but I'd rather stick to the grey for my graphite/charcoal just in case any colour residue is left (which is unlikely but why risk it).
Just remember to cut this bad boy up into small peices at a time and keep it sealed air tight to prevent ageing or drying out.

[Anonymous No.1951444]

Fuckin' Reeves Acrylic paint
Bought it from the best art shop in the area. Load of fucking horse shit, the black is inconsistently runny and then creamy. Their ultramarine has the literal consistency of soft shit. In literal actual complete fact, it is like some dog turd in a tube, I shit you not. This paint is fucking pathetic.

[Anonymous No.1951445]

>>1950880
I had those pens too, some 'tone' pack or something. Some of the pens became greasy, like actual oil was leaking out of it or something. They felt great at first, but after a few weeks, they just...disintegrated into a disgusting set of pens.

[Anonymous No.1951446]

>>1950677
>wacom bamboo intuos
my sides
I've got some bad news for you

[Anonymous No.1951470]

>>1951444
i have a few tubes of that, i quite like it, lots of body, and it drys into like an actual coat of vinyl kinda stuff.

sounds like you just don't like it, and you might of got a few old ones.

'soft shit' sounds like a pretty good consistency for paint too. what are you used to? i assume you also don't like oil paint much.

[Anonymous No.1951497]

At some point I got Roseart colored pencils mixed in with my Prismacolors.

Fuck Roseart colored pencils.

It's all fucking wax. There is almost no fucking pigment. You have to grind the shit out of them to get an even color.

Why do I even have them?

[Anonymous No.1951500]

>>1951497
idk, you could use them for blending or glazing

[Anonymous No.1951502]

>>1951500
also priming, idk if priming is a thing with colored pencil

[Anonymous No.1951504]

>>1951500
>>1951502
I could but fuck Roseart colored pencils.

[Anonymous No.1951573]

>>1951437
>just in case any colour residue is left (which is unlikely but why risk it).
>>1950700 Here, it doesn't.

[Anonymous No.1951605]

>>1950511
is this post troll post

[Anonymous No.1951610]

>>1951446
please dont saaay that Y_________Y!! Is it that bad?

[Anonymous No.1951628]

this thing

[Anonymous No.1951637]

>>1951610
There's no such thing

[Anonymous No.1951686]

>>1951610
It doesn't exist
You may have just bought an elixir of eternal life from that guy with the wagon

[Anonymous No.1951703]

>>1951686
you are trolling me, right? RIGHT?

[Anonymous No.1951713]

>>1951703
there's a wacom intuos and a wacom bamboo, there isn't a bamboo intuos.

but, what used to be called a bamboo is now called and intuos and what used to be called a intuos is now an intuos pro.

so you're probably getting one or the other, not some chinese knockoff or something.

[Anonymous No.1951722]

>>1951713
ok I think I miss spelled it, but im getting the one in pic related >>1951703 for about 100 bucks which is nice

[Anonymous No.1951726]

>>1951722
well it should be good enough for the moment at least, enjoy

[Anonymous No.1951736]

>>1951726
thanks anon, I will

[Anonymous No.1951776]

>>1951628
Is this from the 1800s?

[Anonymous No.1951794]

Bought some Faber Castell Pitt Artist pens, in colors and all.
Barely ever use any of the colors, only greytones and sometimes a light blue. The rest is slowly drying up.
They're kinda nice though for people-sketching, but all these colors weren't necessary.

[Anonymous No.1951823]

>>1951794
im getting prismas soon but I havent decided between 48 and 72, is there such a thing as too much colors?

[Anonymous No.1951887]

I got charcoal for christmas, tried to work with them and now they are just sitting there and making me feel like shit, not a purchase but a gift which I can't figure out at all.

[Anonymous No.1951894]

>>1951823

With markers there really isn't such a thing as too many colors. In fact the reason why working with markers is so expensive is because you NEED a lot of colors. It's not enough to have a a couple different kinds of blues, you need to have lighter and darker values for each of those blues.

Look at it this way: There are 358 colors in the Copic line and it's still considered incomplete. There are 11 regular color families and each one ranges from 00 to 99, plus 000 and 000 which are super light colors. That means that to be complete each family would need to have 102 markers for a total of 1122 colors. Thats just for the color range without getting into the 46 Gray markers, which should be at least 48 and possibly 56.

[Anonymous No.1951922]

>>1951894
Holy shit anon thats a lot of colors. And what about pencil colors are 72 enough? I just want something to start learning color somewhere else than digital

[Anonymous No.1951927]

>>1951823
This anon >>1951894 is right. Depends on how you use them.
I rarely do any delicate renderings with markers (the ones I have have water-based ink and don't blend as well as the Prismacolors) and use them mostly for quick and expressive (?) stuff. Sketching people I see in the city.
I'm usually more than happy with black and some warm grey, don't think I'd ever need three shades of bright pink.

But can't you also choose individual markers you want to get with the Prismacolors?
Just pick some of the more common colors and whenever you absolutely need more, just buy them specifically.

[DemiZen !YESueGotH6 No.1952023]

Had a pack of watercolor pencil crayons on sale, using it just to expand the palette, among with an colorless blender pencil.

Some huge-assed mixed-media paper, Now realized i can use both inks and watercolors on it like Peter Caldwell's method of colored washes.

Before when i had the kolinsky watercolor brush from Raphael back then, I'm concerned what type of ink can be used safely, the Winsor & Newton ink had shellac, first i used on a drip-pen then showed some rust-like surface(alcohol cleans it) that made me think, time to get something safer so i got Pebeo ink instead and brush cleaner soap. Huge difference indeed

[Anonymous No.1952030]

>>1951922

Pencils are sort of the same. You can't mix them but you can control the intensity of the color with your pressure. They're also really cheap so a 72 pack should be plenty.

I think the best medium to start learning traditional coloring is watercolor or ink or any sort of liquid medium where you can mix.

[Anonymous No.1952094]

>>1951922
Yeah, I own a shit load of Copics (read: I am almost close to having the entire collection) for portraiture and still life and I still don't have enough colours for what I need. I'm glad that some degree of blending is achievable but I go through so much ink it's ridiculous.
I'm switching over to oil paint but I just hate having to clean up and take care of brushes and using other fluids for consistency blah blah blah, when using pen is just wham bam, there you go, didn't even make a fucking mess.

[Anonymous No.1952097]

>>1951894
>>1951922
Yeah, I own a shit load of Copics (read: I am almost close to having the entire collection) for portraiture and still life and I still don't have enough colours for what I need. I'm glad that some degree of blending is achievable but I go through so much ink it's ridiculous.
I'm switching over to oil paint but I just hate having to clean up and take care of brushes and using other fluids for consistency blah blah blah, when using pen is just wham bam, there you go, didn't even make a fucking mess.

[Anonymous No.1952102]

>>1952094
Get into watercolors. The only chemicals you're working with is paint and water, and clean up is stupidly easily. Half the time I forget to clean my brushes after a session, but all it takes to clean them is water and some hand soap.

[Anonymous No.1952106]

>>1951887
kek

[Anonymous No.1954029]

>>1950805
kek

[Anonymous No.1954049]

>>1952106
>>1954029
kek

[Anonymous No.1954182]

>>1951610
It's fine, they're just pulling your leg. It's a bit pricey compared to a few other brands that have proven themselves to be decent, but depending on your country and software (compability) those might not even be feasible. Wacom's pretty much the industry standard worldwide.

[Anonymous No.1954184]

>>1950880
Before you toss em away, you can try to determine if the ink is water- or alcohol-based (sniffing) and then keep the tip of it suspended in water/cleaning alcohol for a short while.

[Anonymous No.1954311]

>>1950880

The brush pen is a disposable, it's not going to last long. But there are two things you can do:

1) Pull out the nib. The nibs are double ended so you can get more use out of the pen

2) Load the ink sponge with some india ink.

[Anonymous No.1954674]

>>1954311
how do you load it with ink?

[Anonymous No.1954677]

>>1954674

Pop the cap off the end of the barrel, pull the spongey tube out and use an eyedropper to load it one drop at a time. When it's full it won't suck up the ink as fast and when you overload it it'll start dripping out the other end. Before I filled a Copic with india ink I used this for filling in medium areas.

[Anonymous No.1954679]

>>1954677
thanks very much
i was about to toss it

[Anonymous No.1954831]

>>1950880
felt tip brush pens are the devil. Literally after only one drawing, they're rendered fucking useless. Real brush tips are the best. My Pentel pocket brush is still an amazing tool for inking.

[Anonymous No.1954846]

>>1954831

Kuretake and Zebra are the exception. They're the only ones that can flex without fraying.

[Anonymous No.1954877]

Copics actually.
I bought like 10 of them because I saw a classmate do some really amazing stuff with them, but that was before I learned to paint. Now they just sit in the bottom of the supply drawer, reminding me of how much money I wasted on them.

[Anonymous No.1954878]

>>1954877

Sell them. Theres a resale market for them.