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dear fellow people of /ic/. as of recently it has come to my attention that the feels have been spilling over to every imaginable thread. this is unacceptable and hampers productivity. we cannot afford to flood every thread with petty arguments over how sad our lifes are and how pathetic this and that is.

so this is the contaimnent effort: art feels thread - january of 2015 edition.

>> No.1943821

obligatory "I will never git gud and am just wasting my time" post

>> No.1943823

>that feel when I'm the best artist there ever could be and there's no higher level for me to ascend to

>> No.1943824 [DELETED] 

If you've got time to whine you have to draw.

>> No.1943825

I have a problem relating to my art that I can never talk about to anyone anywhere because it also relates to gender and I'm really frustrated about it because I really could use some advice but I have nowhere to turn. It fuckin sucks.

>> No.1943826

If you have time to whine, you've got time to draw.

>> No.1943829

I feel like my ability to produce artwork is loosely based on the vibrancy of the emotions i feel. This causes me to either
a.) Sensationalize everything in my life to the point of numbing myself to simple pleasures
b.) Analyse every little simple thing in my life until i can discern monumental impact, and use that as fuel, leaving myself impervious to getting 'caught up' - the mindshare where those most vibrant emotions flourish.
Balance doesn't help.
what do?

>> No.1943839

i stopped making art, but i think about it all the time.

>> No.1943845

>>1943839

why brah?

>> No.1943860

>>1943825
y you could turn to me

>> No.1943874

>>1943860
I'm not sure you're "equipped" to answer my question though.
I mean I guess I'll go ahead an ask and hope I get some answers rather than a shitstorm but I'm already expecting the worst.
Basically, whenever I get close to menstruating, my drawing ability plummets. Not saying I'm so great or anything, but I literally, and I do mean in the actual sense of the word literal, can't physically draw the same way. My eyes won't stay focused, I can't remember how to do things and construct things like I do all the time. I've tried medicines, I've tried to keep up my nutrition and water intake, nothing seems to work; for that week every time I go to draw something I may as well be drawing drunk. I don't have any artist friends irl who share this problem and it's pretty iffy to ask about, especially here, but I'm dealing with it even right now as I try to draw a commission and it's really problematic.

>> No.1943877

>>1943874
when I used to smoke up I had problems focusing on drawing so I usually stick to painting otherwise i get terrible headaches, tho i could stop the kush but I see your problem you cant get awayfrom.

>> No.1943889

>>1943874

might wanna talk to your gynocologist (or whatever you spell that) about it. doesn't sound normal. although i have dong, so i wouldn't know what's normal.

>> No.1943890

>>1943877
Yeah and I just want to find out if there's anyone else dealing with this and see if there's something I could possibly do to help it. It was better when I was taking a multivitamin for a while, but for some weird reason I started having really bad allergic reactions to them, even when I tried other brands. But I mean there has to be something, right? Caffeine sort of helps, but it only gives like a really short window of normal focus before it wears off, like one hour, whereas normally a small cup gives me 4-5 hours.
>>1943889
Unfortunately I don't have one...I'm trying to get my medical situation worked out currently, though. Maybe that IS the only way.

>> No.1943901

>draw some shitty warm ups
>they look nice
>draw an actual thing you have to draw
>it's shit
i cry evry tim

>> No.1943919
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>>1943874
This happens to me too, though noticeably less so. I have problems thinking through what I'm drawing (in other words, my construction's weak, my lines are unconfident, and I have a bit of trouble thinking in 3d), and my attention flits around from one concept to the next. It used to be much worse, though, and has improved since I forced myself to think very, very hard about construction, form, line quality, and value when i wasn't menstruating. When my period and its concomitant issues started, there was obviously the drop in quality of work, but it was overall less bad than before.
Or, perhaps you have a different problem. I know that when I'm feeling unconfident in my skills, my work reflects it. Maybe every time you realize that you're on your period, you subconsciously assume that your work's going to be shit, and it ends up turning out that way. I'm still working on solving that one myself.

>> No.1943926
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1943926

>want to sell porn because why not
>create a dumblr page
>building a fanbase of 230 people in 3 weeks with 7 pictures total (three of which are finished ones) and without having posted in like 2 months
>still about 2 new followers a day
>mfw too lazy to work on several sketches

>> No.1943934

>>1943926

so the legends are true? it really is that easy?

>> No.1943937

>>1943934
Maybe I got lucky or something, I don't know but yeah I gained more than 100 followers after I uploaded the last picture about 2 months ago
But I guess it's mostly people who use their account like once every 10 years

>> No.1943963

>>1943874
Perhaps you are anemic and your body is reacting to the loss of iron through your blood flow. Its really weird though, I can't say I've noticed having a problem like that. Somedays I don't draw as good but I don't know if its related to my cycle.

>> No.1943965

>>1943890
Yeah I seriously bet you're anemic. Its really easy to get tested for.

>> No.1943968

>>1943926
Link pls?

I wonder if drawing lolitas would work too. Don't want to draw porn because my family follows my work, but sexy ladies/lads are still acceptable.

>> No.1943972

>>1943968
Search for hardbloo on tumblr

>> No.1943974

>>1943874

Have you looked into birth controll?
They eliminate/ reduce periods cramps all that jazz. My wife has like less then 4 periods a year.

My wife loved the lack of periods or rather sickness. Whenever she do get them they were really short. She had or still has the 5 year shot.

>> No.1943975

>>1943919
I've noticed a similar trend with my stuff. As I've been studying/working harder during the other times, the results I get during this time are generally not nearly as bad as they used to be, I mean if I held up two of my drawings side by side they used to look like they were done by 2 totally different people. I don't know if it's psychological, usually I realize it's about to come because I find myself struggling with some really simple drawing. I can still make stuff that's reasonably ok now, it just takes much much much longer.
>>1943963
>>1943965
Actually I am anemic, I was tested before. That's probably why taking vitamins helped. I don't want to take iron pills because dairy makes them not work and I live on that. I'll try to find some ways to supplement my iron intake and see if that helps.
>>1943974
I haven't, I might though, when I get my insurance and doctor stuff set up.

>> No.1943982

>>1943839
I also no longer create art.

Feels bad, but creating art is worse sometimes because of the grinding disappointment and frustration of it.

>> No.1943990

>>1943839
>>1943982
You guys are giving me the feels.

>> No.1943994

>>1943901
probably cause your going too slow and subconsciously fucking up lines and strokes

>> No.1943995

>>1943990
I was moderately successful, too. But I just feel so utterly mediocre.

I feel like I'm derivative and utterly uncreative, and it's too late to make up for the lack of improvement over the past five years. I'm 27 and thirty feels like it's an eyeblink away.

Where did the time go?

>> No.1944017

>>1943995
Stop giving me feels! I'm 27 and have all those same concerns. It doesn't help that because of some insane bs I had to move back in with my mom and now she's sick and not getting any younger and if I don't do something right now, I have no idea where I'll end up. I'm terrified about it every day! But my friend and mentor told me those are the times to draw the most. Even if you think it turns out bad, even though it's frustrating. If you have to, go back to the simplest basics and do studies. Take on whatever small crappy art related job you can so you're held accountable. I did both those things last year and you know what? That small job I took on just turned into a huge opportunity for me, maybe life-changing. I know it's cliche to say hang in there and have faith but sometimes it's so true. And no matter how unoriginal you think you might be, you can always do nsfw, they don't care, and you'll start improving quick, something I also tried out. Don't just give up, man!

>> No.1944032

>>1943972
>hardbloo on tumblr
srs? It's not even good art. If true, this shows some potential though.

>> No.1944052

>>1943812
>everybody in high school praised my art in despite of being begginer tier
>encorage me to go to art college
>pass
>now I know that I'm not special
seriusly fuck that people I always known there are very good artist and I'm not one of them yet, Why they treat me like a prodigy?

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>>1944052
I have this too. I'm mediocre as shit and my husband and family act like I'm some brilliant genius. I don't know if they really think that because they love me or if they're all lying to me because they think it's too cruel to tell me I'm mediocre.

>> No.1944059

>>1944053
Whoa, what is that gif from? Also I don't really know what to say about that problem, I always got a moderate amount of support and criticism from my family, maybe because many of them also draw or do other forms of creative things. When all else fails, some of the best advice I've ever been given was to just "stay present". Keep your mind on your work and what you want to get out of it, not what anyone says about it or anything else that could distract you.

>> No.1944082
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1944082

I'm sick of being a beginner.
I just want to create something.

>> No.1944134
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1944134

>tfw starting drawing seriously at 34 year old

Everything's ok. I'm gonna get pro. Everything's ok.

>> No.1944136

>>1943826

This is the only anon in this thread that fucking gets it.

>> No.1944141

>>1944136
That anon don't get NUTHIN
>Implying I haven't been drawing this whole time and just looking at the thread once in a while

>> No.1944142

>>1944141
post your art m8

>> No.1944147

>>1944142
What? Why?

>> No.1944148

>>1944059
Quantum Leap.

>> No.1944150

>>1944148
Oh, duh. Even though I recognized Scott Bakula the thing he's most famous for, the show where he jumps into other people's bodies, was the one thing that didn't come to mind. I actually thought of that horrible Star Trek show he was in. Ugh.

>> No.1944420

I find it very irritating when people expect you to be able to draw /anything/, just because you can draw a certain subject. It's not that simple and I wish they understood that.

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1944424

>find cheap drawing tablet on Amazon
>"this item can not be shiped to your country
>fuck me

>> No.1944444

>>1944420
>not being able to draw anything
It's not their fault for not knowing that you are a shit artist

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>>1943812
Fuck this thread and fuck you OP. We're all human beings, we have feelings, fears, hopes and dreams. Not everyone's a success story, some of us hurdle through and there's literally noone on this entire planet that'll comfort or give a shit besides the people close to you or those who can relate to what you're going through. We make these posts because we desperately need someone to acknowledge the struggle everyone keeps silent about, all the unvoiced problems everyone goes through, because apparently it's the norm to act cold and distant to everybody in today's society, you're just supposed to appear with git gud works out of the fucking blue, and now you want to alienate us even further by making this shitty thread with the premise that we are devalued and flawed, well fuck you buddy, you're the flawed one with no value. FUCK YOU.

>> No.1944471

>>1944444
Nice digits :^]

>> No.1944478

>>1944457
You're right, but there is people we can help in this thread. Except those who just whine Ofcause
>I'll never be good like X
>why can't I draw X
Just. Keep. Drawing.

>> No.1944487

>>1943812
>tfw the only thing you drew in the past week, everyday for hours on end, is a naked picture of your furry boyfriendo that's not even finished.
>can't post it because he's a character for a story you're writing and you already fucked up by posting porny pics of him a long time ago.

lol.

>> No.1944545

>>1944457
Ay but it worked, you had a place to vent your feels just now. Don't you feel better?

>> No.1944562

>have imagination and ideas and shit but cant an stick figure
>learn2art
>few years later can an art
>no more imagination and ideas

>Brain why you do this

>> No.1944567

>>1944562
more gesture drawings and value/color thumbnails
do it

>> No.1944569

>Lost my sketchbook and copy of the Art Spirit while shopping

;-;

>> No.1944571

All you fucking pussies are just going to give up because you're "mediocre", "bad", or "not good"?
Then lie down and give up on life, because with that attitude you won't succeed at anything in life.

>> No.1944588

>>1944569
Aww...
>>1944571
You obviously didn't read anything in the thread and are trolling for reactions.

>> No.1944591

>>1944424
What country?

>> No.1944598

>>1944588
I did read them and it's all excuses.

>> No.1944668

>>1944598
Excuses for what? A couple of people said they stopped drawing but didn't give any reasons. The rest of us are just talking over problems we face and looking for solutions, nobody's asking to be excused for not doing anything because nobody's trying to get out of doing anything.

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1944773

I just wanna hug everyone in this thread ;_;

Keep going guys, we'll make it one day.

>> No.1944787

>>1944773
I wanna hug that bear.
Or a bara...

>> No.1944954

>>1944032
It seems to be good enough to easily gain followers

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>>1943926
if you tag your shit as 'cartoon porn' and the like you automatically get a shit ton of porn bots following you

considering none of your posts have more than 20 notes i would chill maybe

>> No.1945188

I feel pumped up to draw one day and as soon as I go home, I'm lethargic as hell.

>> No.1945189
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1945189

I'm gonna complain. I get so sad when I find someone the same age as me and has been drawing as long as I have draws better than me. Therefore, I lose my motivation to draw and I don't git gud. Feels bad.

>> No.1945192

Haha being a loser and creating a thread for all the losers to gather and talk about their feelings.

This is the kind of humor /b/ couldn't achieve. You guys should be comedians instead, you guys are better at it.

I was fishing for talents but i think i will be on my way now.

>> No.1945202

>>1945182
Not that anon, but are those bots helpful in any way? Do they reblog stuff from blogs they follow at least?

>> No.1945219

>>1945189
same feeling here

>> No.1945249
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1945249

>have absolutely insipid self doubt problem
>to the point where I wasted two years avoiding developing the abilities that are most significant to my interests (being an aaaaaartist) because I was shit
>be depressed because I'm shit
>be shit because I'm depressed
>rinse and repeat until I fail two college courses leading up to some career that I wouldn't have enjoyed anyway

>even if I really do make it I will always hate myself for that ridiculous fucking waste of time and never be able to let it go

>> No.1945303

>>1945249
You need to find a way to release that baggage, dude. You have to find some way to forget and forgive and relax, or you're gonna be stuck in that forever.

>> No.1945514

>>1945182
What exactly do you mean by chill? I know that most of those aren't useful followers and I'm not exactly thrilled about them anyway. My point is that I'm too lazy to work on changing that.

>> No.1946428

I abandoned education in favour of drawing for a living. I feel like I've been making some really good progress, but I still get frustrated when things don't go properly, when i constantly fail to adhere to a schedule, and even more so when noone gives a shit about my work. I don't get views favourites etc. It's not vanity, but more of the idea that if I can't even get people to view my work, the idea that I'll ever be able to get commissioned seems laughable.

In two months i'll be forced into conscription because I possess a dick. That's another two years where I won't be able to draw. I honestly don't know if I can make it.

>> No.1946483

>all this self wallowing in pity first world problem bullshit

You people need to fight in a war or something.

>> No.1946486

>>1946483

Tell me more about the Great War grandpa.

>> No.1946542

>>1946483
I know a man who fought in two wars. He's constantly drinking and getting ready to participate in another one because he's just not used to normal living. Other people fought wars so you don't know what it's like.

>> No.1946552

>>1946483
>all this not actually reading the thread, making assumptions, and trying to start shit

>> No.1946559

>>1946552
I've read the whole thread it's all a bunch of petty 'muh feels' bullshit and excuses.

The whole premise of the thread is bullshit.
Being a sad sack of shit on a Vietnamese table tennis forum posting about how hard drawing is, is pathetic to it's very core.

>> No.1946568

>>1946559
Pathetic is coming to a place where people are trying to help each other overcome their obstacles and shit on it. If we're all such pathetic losers, what does it make you that you just HAD to come in here and talk to us? And what does it say about your worth that even losers give no shits about your opinion? Congratulations, you found the thread where you most belong.

>> No.1946574

>>1946559
>visiting imageboards at all
What's the point?

>> No.1946634

>>1946428

Feel ya, spent 2014 as a whole in the military...
Take all the paper and pens in the world with you, otherwise you won't be able to stay sane.

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1946800

>>1944773
>tfw havent been hugged in 1.5 years

>> No.1946819

>>1946800
being embraced > hugs

I hate when people hugs me when saying goodbye, it's the coldest and most artificial thing ever. It has ruined hugs for me.

I just want to feel someones skin against mine

>> No.1946821

>>1946428
If your nation's military is homophobic, pretend you're gay. Leave some gay porn pictures somewhere or maybe "forget" a sketchbook full of naked men laying around somewhere.

Either that or pretend that you're a bloodthirsty psychopath. Just walk up to the interview or whatever and say shit like:
>HEY, MAN, WHEN DO I GET TO DROP THE NUKE, MAN, GONNA TURN ALL OF THOSE NON-WHITES INTO FUCKIN' BACON, MAN, GONNA MAKE THEM GOOD FOR SOMETHING, MAN!
>Y'know, Sarge, I've wanted a gun since I was just a kid. Just the thought of that cold, dark steel being held in my hands... imagining all of the POWER. The POWER to spare a life- or take it away. With just the pull of a little metal hook. To me, that's art. The bullets, my paint, the AK-47, my brush, and all of those Hadjis and Jappos and Ruskies and Jews... THEY ARE MY CANVAS.

And you'll be outta there in a hot minute!

>> No.1946828

>>1946819
At the risk of sounding extremely antisocial, I just recently learned that friends hug each other and say "I love you" all the time. That's just... weird. I feel like only families should do that.

The closest I want with friends is a handshake and a "catch ya later." It doesn't help that my old psychology teacher taught me that people hug as some kind of childlike animal instinct, like it makes us feel safe.

Just eugh.

>> No.1946837

>>1946800
I've never been hugged in my life
I read somewhere that there's some chemical mojo that happens when people hug but I've never hugged
What's it like?

>> No.1946840

>>1946828
What country are you from?

>> No.1946841

>>1946840
USA. Yes, friends do this shit, here.

>> No.1946845

>>1946828
I'm from cold european country and never seen shit like this. Hugging a friends with phrase like that should be between gays or females only.

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>>1946828
>>1946841
how old are you? it's only really common with certain types of people. im a gril (which i assume are the people who do this the most) and i dont really get that close unless its like a really close friend and we're being goofy

also showing close affection to your friends is not just an american thing...?

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1946852

>>1946845
>he doesn't have good friends
>his father didn't give him enough attention

>> No.1946857

>>1946841
Between males too? That only really happens between females here. From Netherlands.

>> No.1946858

>>1946852
>he has bazillion friends
>he fucked every one of them
No homo

>> No.1946860

>>1946857
>>1946849
>>1946845
Male, 23. I think it happens between people who are pretty close friends, or open about their feelings.

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1946872

>Has a cousin that draws too.
>She has the ego as big as Jupiter and is an DA ego.
>Believes she draws better than I and always tells me to draw other art style instead Chinese monkeys.
>My answer every time she suggests me that.
>feels damn good.

>> No.1946888

>>1946837
I don't wanna make you feel bad but a real, genuine, "I fucking love you" hug feels like you are surrounded by sweet atmospheric affection and that you and the person you're hugging are on a cloud where nothing bad can happen... Or something like that. When I hug my significant other it feels better than anything in the world and is extremely addicting, like they get annoyed that I NEED to cuddle them all of the time but I can't fucking help it- I'm weak and need that comfort.

May you have as many hugs as you need to make up for never having one... Like I just wanna hug you right now. I hope you find your cuddle monster soon, anon.

>> No.1946919

>>1944052
>>1944053
>>1944059
because the average person can barely draw a stick figure so in their eyes youre on a better path then they are

getting to art college and seeing everyone around you is rough but it represents a small amount of people on earth who are trying to do something similar to you and most likely dont have the same aspirations to do the job you want

most will drop out at some point

the few who make it get even better but you mostly should still study on your own time

basically if you have the drive to be the best artist you can be then youll eventually surpass about 95% of your college class at some point most of them will slow down and stagnate but if you keep going youll get better eventually

>> No.1946921

>>1945249
are you me?

i did the same shit but then i went to therapy and got rid of all that shit dude you should try it

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1946932

I'm envious of those people that can draw/paint emotional shit to express their feels. I have all these pent up frustrations/feels/etc and I don't know even know how to express them with draws because I feel I lack the creativity and ideas.

In short, I feel like a very boring artist that draws the same thing all the time

>> No.1946947

>>1943926
>draw fetish smut requests on tumblr
>almost 200 followers after a week or so

this isn't the path I want to take but people really like to fap

>> No.1946969

>Try to make it on fetish furry website
>Post a bunch of awesome art
>Barely any watchers in half a month or so
>See trash artists with galleries full of stick figure sonic taking a shit and other absolute garbage
>They have 1,000+ watchers because they have 30 pages of terrible artwork
>Fuck you Inkbunny

>> No.1946972

>>1946969
continued
>People who do nothing but favorite and watch other people
>They have hundreds of watchers more than me
>Can't get useful feedback because Inkbunny and other furry sites are circlejerks
>This is not how I wanted to start with my art

>> No.1946982

>>1946969
>>1946972
>furry
Everybody knows that furry have the most fucked up community ever. You want to make dosh? You better start drawing dicks, huge muscles, shit, inflation, every single fetish that is considered outside of normal. You can make name by drawing well, even get into high profile sites with payments, but it will take much longer.

>> No.1946988

>>1946982
I'm just trying to find something that I can enjoy and work up a decent fanbase for some commissions down the line. I love art, and for the first time I feel like I can have a job that I enjoy doing. Yes, I love drawing weird shit. I even love drawing furry, but that furry community... I can't stand roleplaying, and I don't have a fursona. I just like girls with animal features. I have the desire and the skillset to learn and become a good artist, but I don't know what to do with myself. A lot of things I enjoy drawing are not liked by any 'normal' communities. I don't know where or how I want to start peddling my art. I just know that I am having a hell of a time drawing, and people would enjoy the things I produce. Dat fucking inkbunny though.

>> No.1946998

>>1946988
I'm a beginner and I look at the time when I'd be able to do commissions with fright, and I'm asking myself the same questions. I think your best bet will be get into community, get to know it, announce that you do commissions, drop a link there and there. It's all about promotion. On he other hand you can disregard everything and just do art, do a story, participate in creative challenges in art communities, hone your skills and don't sweat about amount of people that follow you. Second one if you're not in trouble with money ofc.

>> No.1946999

>>1946972
>Can't get useful feedback because Inkbunny and other furry sites are circlejerks

>Draw porn
>Get watched by people whose only common thing is liking drawn porn
>Annoyed that people into drawn porn aren't art connoisseurs that can give the most valuable feedback in the world

Your only chance at getting any semblance of feedback in the porn drawing world is from other artists.

Honestly you're out of your mind if you are expecting anything besides "hot" and "purr" from random users' comments in a furry porn site.

Inkbunny is a terrible choice too, you would do better in Tumblr. The only thing Inkbunny has going for it is a website that was made in this century.

Go draw what you love and you may find yourself surrounded by people with similar interests, who can't draw, and are willing to pay you to draw.

>> No.1947001

>>1946999
I don't know shit about tumblr. Guess it's time to do some research. Anyone with a tumblr have some advice? What kind of stuff can't I post on tumblr?

>> No.1947030

>>1947001

It's a blog platform home.

It's famous for many things including: Social Justice Warriors, ignorant teenagers, anime/manga tards, porn, weird porn, drawn porn, web comics, photography, sensitive people, death menaces, its self-aware lack of built-in comments(use disqus instead), and perhaps most important of all, web design that should have died in the 90's but is somehow still alive in blogs in the year 2015.

The most important thing about it for you is how its reblogging system will help you gain exposure much faster than any other art platform.

>> No.1947037

>>1947030
Can't you get banned for posting certain kinds of porn though?

>> No.1947048

>>1947037

Loli/shota probably. Some artists get around this my posting SFW thumbnails with links to hosting sites. (Yahoo doesn't want loli/shota porn stored on their servers but blogs about it are alright it seems)

You could post SFW thumbnails as photos and use the click-through link to the respective Inkbunny page for example. Reblogs of photos keep the click-through link so anyone who reblogs your picture would be linking to your inkbunny illustration page.

>> No.1947060

>>1947048
Awesome, thanks for the advice.

>> No.1947067

>>1946828
even within the US there are different cultures that behave differently. like the mormons and nudists.

>> No.1948030

I feel like every time I make something that looks good, it's pure luck because I have to spend 5 hours on a sketch before it turns out decent.

>> No.1948080

>>1944420
They see you're alright at something, they don't realize you're shit overall. You should tell them.

>> No.1948308

>>1943812
instead of whining, why don't all you losers just go draw something? i'd say more, but I'm going to go draw.

>> No.1950349

>>1946932
same here, if you can't draw different things, find different ways of drawing what you can't stop drawing.

>> No.1952015
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animators?
>>1952004

>> No.1952020

>>1948308
post your art

>> No.1952025
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Holy fucking shit, I just had the worst drawing class imaginable.

>Want to git gut
>Sign up for two weekly drawing classes
>One is drawing objects and still life, turned out pretty good
>Other one is "fashion drawing" because I gotta learn how to draw clothing at some point anyway, right?
>Go there today
>Starts out with gestures using the broad side of two inch charcoal pieces
>Fat teacher plays cheesy music on recorder
>"Gotta let yourself go, feel the music"
>Okay, could be worse, gestures actually turn out decent
>"Now we're going to warm up with some dancing"
>wat
>Awkwardly dance for three minutes
>"Now we're switching to pen, this time our model will keep moving around, you just gotta feel the music and let yourself go, also make sure to hold the pen very loosely"
>Everything turns out super scribbly to the point where you couldn't even tell what's going on in most of the drawings
>Half an hour later
>"Now we'll keep doing the same thing holding two pens of different colour in the same hand, it'll bring out the three dimensionality!"
>Same result
>"Now when I tell you to switch you'll move one space to the left and continue drawing where the other person left off"
>Everything turns out even worse than before
>"Now in the final half-hour you'll make a collage of the model posing"
>We have to tear up coloured pieces of paper and glue them down in the shape of the model posing and then draw the outline with pencil
>Turns out literally kindergarten-tier
>"Now that we're done I want you to lay out all the drawings you did today. Then everyone will pick one they like and tell the person why they like it."
>"The most important thing is that you leave with a positive experience"

I am so mad at this. Thank you for reading my blog.

>> No.1952033

>>1952025
Did anyone pick yours? Gotta know.

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>>1952033
Yeah, the model picked one of my gestures.

>> No.1952049

>>1952025
I am about to start a fine art course and I am terrified of this

>> No.1952050

>>1952040
Decent amount, how useful these studies are I have no clue about, feeling loose yet? I actually like the ones that look totally like a person with severe Parkinson painted it.

>> No.1952059

>>1952050
I hate them mostly because they are so squiggly that I can't see the mistakes.
With the charcoal ones you can make out mistakes and keep them in mind for next time, with the squigglies this is almost impossible.

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>>1952025
>Awkwardly dance for three minutes
lost it

>> No.1952079

>>1952059
The point to these exercises isn't precision, you don't need to 'see your mistakes' the whole point is to feel the movement of the model so that when you go back to drawing static gestures you can feel the movement easier. I hate these exercises becuase the result look like shit but they are helpful every now and then to loosen up.

>> No.1952091

>>1952079
I can agree with that, I don't really mind them in moderation.

>> No.1952140

>>1952025
you're in high school or middle school?

>> No.1952189

>>1952015
Though traditional animation is dieing, you cant still be of use in video game related fields, and the tools for video game creation are getting easier to use everyday.

Go download un!ty, and follow some tutorials. You can have a working prototype up in a day, even as a beginner.

>> No.1952390

>>1943812
a theme too good for this thread. fitting nonetheless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r594pxUjcz4

>> No.1952406

I'm an absolute beginner and I'm concerned that I'm not getting the basics provided by various resources for teaching drawing.

I'm continuing to practice but I don't think I'm getting anywhere because I'm still baffled by how to approach drawing simple things, it seems logical when I read/look at it but I can't translate that into an act/process of putting it on paper.

>> No.1952424

>>1952406
Try RapidViz, to be honest i have had the same problem, books like RapidViz and Frank Changs stuff have helped me get a feeling for the real fundamentals of drawing I think are overlooked in the self- learning circles

>> No.1952434

>>1952140
They're public evening classes offered by an art school in my area.

>> No.1952452

>>1952025
that sounds fucking hilarious. i wish i had an art class like that.

>> No.1952510

As soon as I stopped drawing shit for fun and started learning practicing I lost all interest.
Every time I draw I get overwhelmed by reflection.
Now I just want to be good in a skill I don't enjoy.
Actually not sure if I still want to. My existence became void.

>> No.1952514

>>1952510
that's what you get for being soulless, you're basically already dead mate.

>> No.1952515

>>1952514
As if it was my choice to walk past the line to soul dispenser.

>> No.1952527

>>1952434
for the elderly? because i've mistakenly signed up to one and was the only young person there.

>> No.1952531
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Portfolio is taking shape, I have contacts in the games industry that are checking around for me right now. Other projects are getting started and I can get work on the side as a graphic designer.

My art feels are pretty good rig now.

>> No.1952538

>>1952531
get out.

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>>1952538
Its alright to feel good sometimes friend

>> No.1952545

>>1952527
Some, but most people there are either art students at the school that want extra lessons or they are apprentices from other art-related professions. Generally it's pretty good and the prices are heavily reduced if you're still in education.

>> No.1952547

>Finally getting into the habit of drawing regularly.
I think I might just make it.

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>>1952547
we're all gonna make it

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>>1952531

What type of work are you doing that's getting you noticed by the games industry? Concept art? Illustration? Animation? Did you self-teach graphic design? Did you go to formal schooling for any art skills you have now (beyond high school)?

>feels

Finally dropping my uni degree in accounting and starting a foundation course in Feb and get some colour in folio aside from the loomis and bargue drawings. After that I plan to apply for another arts school and focus on a certain field for either illustration, graphic design or animation.

To you guys doing well, did you ever felt you had to choose one way or another or did you work out a way to follow different paths but still kept a strong sense of direction in your work?

>> No.1952616

Sometimes I feel like I can't get good because I'm too busy balancing a relationship and looking for a part time job. At least I'm gonna be going back to school in four to seven months so I can study art that way. I want to truly embark on the artist journey and be a student. I'm scared and hopeful and excited all at the same time. I LOVE art.

>> No.1952631

>>1943812

>be me
>be an engineer
>be good paid
>hate job
>love art
>practice but getting better its taking forever
>hate both things because I can only dedicate half my time to both
>come to 4chan and whine

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1952633

>being me
>working hard on learning construction and perspective (pic related)
>leaving rendering for later, when I'll know how to draw (because sticky and many d/ic/ks told me that's a good idea)
>meanwhile some ignorant of perspective faggots are getting money from their commissions on patreon just because it's "realistically" rendered

;_;
Only thing that matters is frosting, cake is a lie.

>> No.1952652

>>1952569
Highschool and uni classes.
To get noticed im just looking what the industry wants in terms of quality and presentation and then doing original designs at that quality / presentation level.

One pixel brush have an excellent guide on what getting hired requires and Other studios have art on their webpages as a representation of what their finished client products look like.

Just find out what they are being paid to deliver and try to match that.

>> No.1952668

>>1952631
>>1952631
Are you me?
Really, high five man!

>> No.1952679

> don't draw for a few weeks because I was sick
> try and bust out the ol' sketchbook
> shakey hand
> get angry at sketchbook

But it's okay now because I got better.

>> No.1952685

>>1952633
Who is this guy? I dont believe he earn that much for this shitty things.

>> No.1952687

>>1943890
What? How do you drink caffeine without getting horribly painful cramps?

>> No.1952697

>>1952687

femanon here, I dont get cramps when menstruating and drinking coffee, you just need to get used to caffeine, also the more toasted the coffee is the more damage it does to your stomach so try to avoid super toasted/acid coffee

And for >>1943890 I used to get crazy cramping in my period, lay in bed for like 4 days straight trying not to move because it was painfull as hell, then when I was 19 my gyno suggested me to start taking birth control pills because they help balance hormones and within months the severe cramping stop, and I could focus on normal life, also I used to bleed like fucking hell which make me feel dizzy at times, with the pills I bleed a lot less so you should ask your GP or gyno about it

>> No.1952711

>>1952685
Here's link: https://www.patreon.com/markydaysaid

Do you feel it now?

>> No.1952746

> no local art colleges
> can't afford to move/live out-of-state
> the closest one is a University with an 'awarded artist," as the head of the department
> the department is a joke
> half of the classes are jokes
> 20-somethings that still draw on a middle-schoolder level are being passed out of prelimenary courses and put into advanced/secondary courses
> like three of the professors actually know what they're talking about
> I can't get into any of their classes because they're constantly filled
> "Fuck, I bet that's where the other artists are."
> check
> yep
> still full
> beg to be reassigned to those courses
> get a 'next semester' for the last three semesters
> I've only got two left
Am I going to get that piece of paper that says I know how to draw so people will look at my portfolio?
Yes.
Have a learned a god damned thing over the last year and a half?
Not from any of the studio classes, no.

Fuck, Drawing 101 was more like, "Charcoal 101." We spent maybe 1/3rd of the course learning how to use charcoal, and half of her critiques were about charcoal-method.

Then I gota' go to these "critique" days that all the studio classes ares structured around and listen to a bunch of tumbler-hacks and deviantart-furries (there are two literal furries in this course for the record) look at my stuff and critique it, all the while they're shelling out stuff that isn't even fucking finished half of the time, and our grades are all within like 8 points of each other because the professors refuse to give out As to anyone south of Leonardo De' Fucking Vinci, and would apparently pass a bunch of skill-less wannabees than stir ire from administrations.
Half of the time the other students are just, "wow man, you're really good." and that's great and all, and I appreciate the compliments, but I need someone to rip me apart and put me back together. I came hear to learn damn it.

>> No.1952765

>>1944134
ha! me too bro. I'm 36 now. I'm not trying to go pro, but just to be at that level. I don't want to suck at my hobby.

>> No.1952797

>>1944134
>>1952765
Good luck, dads of 4chain!<3

>> No.1952865

>Highschool
>Give up most of social life to get decent at drawing
>College
>Off to a great start. Actually getting really good at art
>My social life sucks
>Made some really good friends, but I never hang out with em
>Starting to get depressed

I'm dying here guys
I know it's winter, but this is bad

>> No.1952872

>>1952711
I have strange mix of emotion about a guy who gets 1600 for this kind of art, but still was a student working 2 jobs.

>> No.1952873

>Slowly gitting gudder, not amazing yet, but getting there,
>Watch and read about Art Center and FZD
>British and poor though
>"Well shit maybe there's something like that here. Even if it doesn't end in a guaranteed job, jumping into a shitton of practice among other people motivated to do the same would make me better and that's all I really want."

>Check out the open days for local university art degrees.

>The 'Fine Art' is 2deep post-modernist shit; edgy emo messes of paint and a literal pile of garbage.

>'Illustration' is children's book doodles. One good artist there is a dude in his 30s who amazing before enrolling.

>"So do you have any life-drawing classes? Stuff on perspective and composition?"
>"Well we don't try and tie our students down with that as much as we like to focus on raw creativity and imagination"

Well fuck england's art education system then. Where are the places that are gonna grill me for doing a knuckle wrong during an all-day figure drawing class and give me twelve hours of draw-through perspective homework?

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Every day I feel immense sadness over not having started sooner. It's so horrible because there is nothing I can do about it. I can't turn back time. I see all these people that are as old or younger and can draw so well because they started when they were young. And they will only get better with time. I have all these ideas I want to bring to paper but I am unable to right now and it frustrates me. It will take years for me to get good enough to do it. And by then I will be old. I had also so much more time back then. I feel so impatient. I am so jealous of all you guys here that post these great drawings. Sure you hard to practice a lot but you have it behind you.

>> No.1952915

>>1952873
If you're serious, you can learn in your own time, or you actually can learn in an art school. Go to a cheaper one but most of them have life classes that run every week if the students show or not.
If you go to one, you can use the student loan to find your studies for a good couple of years while having your own studio, access to art books in a library, and some times a decent tutor.
If you listen to the tutors, start to sink in with your peers or even care about your grades, you'll probably turn into a fine art person and lose that drive. Although, if you have the drive to withstand this shit, you have the drive to just go NEET and learn at home.
Enjoy! Love, UK art grad

>> No.1952917

>>1952908
The more you whine about what you could be now, the farther behind you're getting from your peers (who you shouldn't even be comparing yourself to in that way anyway). Unless you're some 90 year old WWII vet who got both his arms blown off, there's no fucking excuse as to why it's somehow too late for you to get good at drawing other than your "boo hoo I'm so far behind all these young kids" mentality.

>> No.1952929

>>1952917
>who you shouldn't even be comparing yourself to in that way anyway

Why not?

>> No.1952934

>>1952929
Because everyone is in completely difference circumstances for where they are in their lives and the reasons for why they want to draw so dismissing yourself by saying that you started too late compared to an more experienced artist who happens to be younger is debilitating to your own self confidence and has no actual gain. This is evident by how many people here bitch about this exact thing and never actually end up getting good, which isn't surprising. It's just a defeatist way to look at it and only serves as another excuse for your brain to make so it can procrastinate instead of practising.

>> No.1952948

>>1952917
Not the person who made the post but I feel his frustration, thanks for this post anon. I'll try to keep your words in mind next time I feel like whining.

>> No.1952951

>>1952934
But I am already practicing.

But I feel this need to rush so I get frustrated easier.

>> No.1952964

I just wasted a month posting on a furry site trying to build a fanbase, and I barely even like furry art. It started fine, but now I can barely bring myself to draw anything. I'm learning how to draw furry stuff, but I don't want furry. It's like a side-fetish of mine that I sometimes like, but not all the time. I've got pictures that I owe people too and a few watchers that are expecting pictures from me, but deep down I just want to run and draw something else that I enjoy more. These feels are weird, I don't like them.

>> No.1952966

>>1952908

>The best time to start was 20 years ago. The second best time is now.

>> No.1952967

>>1952951
That's good to hear. It takes a long time to actually become really good as opposed to just "decent" and I get how you feel, but really just try to take it slow and at whatever pace you feel comfortable at because everyone learns at their own pace and has their own schedule to deal with. If it takes two years or twenty years it doesn't really matter in the end as long as you make steady progress you'll get there. You probably won't give two shits that you started "late" by that point either.

An important thing that I'd suggested doing is observing how far along you are every now and then. I know for me personally that it helped to see old stuff that I did months ago as a way to confirm that I'm indeed making progress when I'd feel like I'm stagnating because that feeling definitely does hit you sometimes, especially at the very beginning and again when you're trying to bridge that horrible gap between "good" and "amazing".

>> No.1952974

>>1952967
Sometimes I get this idea in my head that I'm good because I have a good hour or so where I just bust shit out and make some crazy good stuff. Then I get to a certain point in a painting and I just don't know where tf to go from there. I'm met with my complete lack of experience and it's jarring. Or the next hour I can't even draw a face or anything correctly. It's like my brain isn't grasping what I'm teaching it.

>> No.1953011

>>1952974
Just keep at it and eventually you'll find a way that works. There's no definitive answer to learning this stuff and it's something that you'll eventually figure out on your own, which is part of the reason learning takes so long to begin with and you really have to stick to it. All that can really be said now is to just stick with it through all the highs and lows because there's always gonna be those and sometimes it just makes you want to give up or complain about it in a thread full of other people going through their own low points and complaining about it...

>> No.1954511

>force myself to draw everyday to improve
>always start with random sketches
>finally get something I like but it's not good enough, pose is boring, would probably have to redo the entire thing for it to be any better
>notice I wasted 2 hours on sketching and barely learned anything new

Fuck fuck fuck. I always tell myself to at least use a ref so I won't get stuck in the sketching stage forever but I never do. It's nice to create something new everyday but I feel like I'm barely doing anything if I keep drawing only for fun. Help. ;_;

>> No.1954547

>>1952865
>>1954511
Im in the same jam as you two

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>>1952865

I take inspiration from The Punisher.

The Punisher only cares about one thing: His mission. The only things that are important in his life are the mission and the things that enable him to complete the mission. The mission is more important than friends, girlfriends and even his own life.

Art is my mission and it is all that I care about.

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>better than a lot of concept artists
>actual good concepts
>$400 to my name
>70 followers on tumblr
>750 likes on facebook because humans of new york took a picture of me
>out of 750 people maybe 10 still look at my stuff regularly

i aint nobody /ic/. feel like im gonna be one of those niggas that gets famous after he dies.

>> No.1954645

>>1954642
>Concept art

Well theres your problem. Concept art is the shittiest way of making money for an artist.

>> No.1954648

>>1954642
>feel like im gonna be one of those niggas that gets famous
>why nobody gives me attention that I deserve

You seem like a very arrogant and pretentious person. Maybe that's the reason?

>> No.1954652

>>1954648
goes much deeper than that. trust me. arrogant and pretentious doesn't even scratch the surface.

>> No.1954654

>>1954642
may b cuz u a picasso rip off nigga
#SEVERD

>> No.1954657

>>1954654
i thought this was a safe place

>> No.1954661

>>1954652
So you're even worse? Please do humanity a favor and die in a ditch.

>> No.1954664

>>1954661
oh yeah. much worse. total dirtbag

>> No.1954700

>>1954657
>safe
kek

>> No.1954703

I know im gonna get shit for this, but you guys can just put this in the backround starting at 10:55.
Its not very long, and I got a lil confidence boost from it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp7yE2uCKhw

>> No.1954706

>>1954703
by backround I meant just audio.
and start at 10:55

>> No.1954761

MICA foundation year is shit. Half of my professors would rather see how edgy and provocative you can be than how technically skilled you are.

>> No.1954811

I JUST HAD A SATISFYING TRAINNING SESSION I DONT WANT TO FEEL

>> No.1954849

>>1954761
good. you won't get anywhere from technical skill alone.

i swear if /ic/ were about directing instead of art people here would spend 100% of their time talking about being a DP instead.

>> No.1954926

>>1954849
>good
No. I'm fine with art being edgy and meaningful and all of that, but I'd like to at least be taught color theory, anatomy, and perspective, and things that are important instead of arguing about whether it's politically correct to refer to line weight as "masculine or feminine", and wasting time critiquing a tampon smeared with charcoal as though it's art

>> No.1957597

>>1946919
i'll second this one, but family and friends are kind of hard to get crits from because they don't want to burn a bridge and they don't want to make you quit... for better or worse.

also, i'm the dick friend who will rip shit apart if asked, the only time i had nothing to say was when a friend in school did a watercolor thing... it looked like a washed out goldensun image mixed with a secret of mana box art style prospective... i had shit to say to that only because at that point in time i had no idea water color could do anything impressive. thinking back on it now... theres still little i could say in terms of flaws, but thats because it was the style he went for mixed with water color being an absolute bitch to do good with.

>>1943874
plenty of women have problems with the crimson curse, though i hate when they blame their bitchy attitude on it.

go to a doctor and find out what was fucking with you in the multivitamin and see if there is one without it.

and on the chance you cant fix whatever's up see if you cant get an adult add medication, it may fuck you over in the long run but if you only take it when the period hits it will probably help.


>>1952711
>>1952872
>>1952685
>>1952633
the guy draws a mix of comedyporn, he isnt watched because his art is great or he gets people off, his shit is just funny, at least if its the same person i'm thinking of...

also, stop grinding prospective like that if you made that image. a basic understanding is all you will need for 99% of what you do unless you want to draw mechanical shit or cars. 100% perfect.

>>1952746
post here, we are good at ripping most people a new asshole... granted that asshome may be in the wrong spot.

>>1952964
did they pay you... if no... fuck em.

>>1954645
you get lucky, you get fucking well in the 6 figures 160k+... thank you sony leak

>> No.1957609

>>1957597
>stop grinding prospective like that if you made that image. a basic understanding is all you will need for 99% of what you do unless you want to draw mechanical shit or cars. 100% perfect.

I've seen a lot of shitty advice on /ic/ but this takes the fucking cake.

>stop learning the basic thing that can instantly kill a drawing if you don't fully understand it

>> No.1957637

i want to draw more like i used to

but i just don't

:((((((

>> No.1957643

>>1957609
all you need is a basic understanding of prospective for almost any drawing to do it right... i cant understand why whenever this is said this comment comes out like i told you you don't need it at all...

is what i consider a basic understanding (iv been going through books recently, so far nothing brought up is shit i don't know) and what you think i mean by basic understanding completely fucking different?

tell me how doing that much bitch work with prospective is helpful at all outside of architecture or mechanical drawings.and how knowing 1,2 and 3 enough to get shit in prospective isn't enough.

>> No.1957657

>>1957609
>the basic thing that can instantly kill a drawing if you don't fully understand it

I have no idea what you're talking about. Is it because I'm a finance major or something?

>> No.1957790

> tfw everyone beats me down for my bad art when I only do it as a hobby and not a living

Please ic

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>>1952633
this guy makes 3000 a month, you just have to let it go and know that people in general care more about consistency and pandering than anything else

>> No.1957857

>>1952908
How old are you, I started at 24 and im 26

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Your art is reflective of you; take care of yourself. Make friends, go out, eat right, read, and learn to love yourself. All these good qualities will spill into your creative work.

>> No.1957871

>>1957862
Your life must be a shithole then.
When are you going to move out of that comfort zone and actually try and improve?

>> No.1957872

Feel like shit because I am not learning at the rate I want to, how do you guys even spend 8 hours per day without dicking around? I get tired and frustrated way sooner than that.

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>enjoy drawing big noses because it's fun and noses can have a lot of character
>"what is this generic tumblr shit"

>> No.1957918

>>1957871
You sound like a blast at parties.

>> No.1957920

>>1957872
Autism

>> No.1958070

>>1957657
apparently he thinks a basic understanding = autistic sonic fan art.

either that or he thinks basic understanding is something FAR less than what i consider a basic understanding. like i said iv been going through books looking for something i don't get when it comes to prospective, and all i'm coming up with is a good half the books i know already, and the rest is logic that i didn't need to be taught to know... the only areas where there is anything i could learn would be architectural or mechanical drawings where everything needs to be 100% accurate or else its easily noticeable.

as for my comment, the person is on learning to make a spiral staircase in perspective, you have gone beyond everyday prospective use there and should stop the grinding, perspective is a very easy but time consuming part of drawing which will burn you out.

>>1957849
i would also say comedy, many of the porn artists that i see that make money but aren't necessarily good are more funny than sexy.

>>1957910
once you are good the only thing tumbler they can bitch about is the noses being redder than anything else, but even then depending on the drawing it could be a baseless criticism. without seeing your shit, you probably have more to work on than just noses.

>>1957872
spread that 8 hours out over a day, or play some tv or movies you like in the background, the less you need to pay attention to it to understand whats going on the better.

>> No.1958528

depression and anxiety ;/

>> No.1958531

>>1958528
that's a prerequisite for this thread and half the boards on this site

>> No.1958547

>>1957872

Get a game plan. Telling yourself to draw 8 hours a day is intimidating the same way a blank piece of paper is intimidating. Don't think of it like that. Tell yourself that you're going to do an hour of anatomy studies, an hour of composition studies, an hour of environmental studies, etc. An hour is nothing and when you finish one move onto the other.

This week I'm doing six hours a day. I wake up at 8:30, start drawing at 9:00 and tell myself I have until noon to do two and a half hours. This gives me a half hour of break time between my start and my finish. I set my deadline at noon because at 1:00 I watch the Anthony Cumia show live for two hours and draw the entire time with no break, so I want to eat my lunch and jack off before that. By 3:00 I have done four and a half hours and just have 90 minutes left. But the problem I'm hitting is heavy procrastination to get that 90 minutes done. A short break turns into a long break which turns into me at 10:00 cramming it in before bed.

This week has been an experiment at seeing how well I do when I sleep in. No go. So I'll be adjusting the gameplan and adding another half hour. Next week I'll be getting up at 7:00, starting at 7:30 and trying to get four hours done before noon. Setting short term goals, tracking my progress, analyzing the data and identifying weaknesses keeps me on track.

>> No.1958870

>>1958528
I feel the same way.
I'm stalling making a portfolio because I don't think it will be good enough. And as of recent, my artistic eyes have gone blind, everything I see when I go out is a blur. There's no excitement anymore. I just shit out something to work my arms but I don't "feel" her anymore.
I can't feel her in my mind like I used to.
Something is stagnate.

>> No.1958886

>>1957918
parties are for plebs who will never get gud

>> No.1959039

Kr0n works four hours a day. If four hours is good for him, im sure four or three is good for you retards

>> No.1959044

>>1958547
must be nice to be unemployed.

>> No.1959066

>>1959044

Aside from the whole "being broke and living with Mom" thing, it is.

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1959074

I don't have a lot of contacts. I enjoy drawing and I enjoyed doing all those commissions some months ago but work has dried up.

At the worst time too. I need a place to live and a way to support myself. I am willing to work, I'm applying to art jobs 24/7 but it doesn't bear fruit.

>> No.1959150

>>1946969
To be fair, most people are only on Inkbunny for the underage fetish stuff. I would have tried on FurAffinity instead if you weren't trying to pull in the cub crowd.

>> No.1959162

is everybody in this thread professionnal or trying to be?

>> No.1959175

>>1959162
I am trying so hard. So so hard.

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>>1959074
>At the worst time too. I need a place to live and a way to support myself. I am willing to work, I'm applying to art jobs 24/7 but it doesn't bear fruit.

Im in the exact same pickle. Things went waaaay south this evening, and I barely have any followers. Its my fault though, all I do is sketches of shit.
I need some insight on what to do in this city I call "The big Easy".

>> No.1959458

>>1959450
polish up your work

>> No.1959488

>>1946828
Happened to me, thought a girl was leading me on. Knew I was wrong the whole time. I guess I just kinda hoped.
>autistic me clearly

>> No.1959494

>>1944082
Create something shitty anyway
You'll look at it and see it as terrible
That doesn't reflect on you as at whole
Just you as of that moment
Make it worthwhile though
Really put effort into it
And when you're done
Practice where you went wrong

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>>1945249
are you me?

>> No.1959765

>>1946828
sounds like middle eastern bydlo culture

by the way I know how you feel, Im still somewhat antisocial but Im a lot better now that I started socializing
in the beginning I was repulsed by the notion of touching people, handshakes gave me fucking shivers
but Im through, I just some day realized that this kind of thinking is unnatural and started deconstructing my own psyche and fixing shit I didnt like about myself

>> No.1959766

>>1959765
ha you see a lot of posts where you go >that guy is definitely a teenager.
not often do you see one where you go, >that guy is definitely in his early 20s.

but man if that wasn't the most "i'm 22" post i've ever seen.

of course i'll turn out to be wrong but still.

>> No.1959767

>>1952025
I only read that shit and Im mad by proxy already

>> No.1959768

>>1958886
How are you supposed to learn and improve if you dont make new experiences?
You can only regirgurate your own stuff for so long until you need fresh influence from outside sources.

>> No.1959770

>>1959766
Im 25 brah
but I know what you´re getting at
Im about 4-5 years behind regarding social experience and emotional intelligence because half of that time I was bedridden and the other half Id rather not remember, fondly or otherwise

´sides, isnt this the "abloo abloo hug me anon im so shit"-general?

>> No.1959775

>>1959770
i didn't mean to imply any negativity, it's good to go through the correct developmental stages of growing up. if you don't then you're retarded.

i'm in the late 20s stage myself which appears to be a lot of stuff about feeling like one isn't really "a young person" anymore or soon won't be anyway and that i better find my place in the world pretty fast because soon i'll be old and dead.

>> No.1959918

>>1959458
Rodger that sir.


>>1959488
Tell me about it.
When a girl actually liked me in college, I thought she was leading me on as some prank like in highschool.
She was devistated that I left her in that state alone. That was 2 years ago.
I only recently forgave myself.

>> No.1959945

>>1957910
Shit man, me too. I got obsessed with noses before tumblr even started with their red noses thing. I fucking love crooked, large noses ; I think they give the face its structure.
At least I paint them a flesh colour and not bright-red, I guess.