Alternative Art/Stylization General

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Alternative Art/Stylization General Anonymous Thu Jan 8 18:36:14 2015 No.1938300 [Reply] [Original]

Anime/Manga/Cartooning Thread

"Remember that most of the action in your figures must come from you as you feel it rather than from a model. A vital expression is more important here than accuracy."

Previous Thread: >>1934034

A general message to aspiring artists: "Lack of knowledge can be greater torture than the effort of acquiring it. When all is said and done, nature is your best instructor."

Submit your drawings, receive feedback or critique others! Share your knowledge and remember to thank those who've critiqued or red-lined your drawings. Most importantly, have fun.

This thread is meant for artists who might want to try to make stylized work in-between their studies. It is strongly recommended that you use this thread in conjunction with learning the elements and fundamentals of art. You can also discuss the visual elements of various professional artists as well if you keep it relatively articulate and civil.

>Fresh off the boat? Read the fucking sticky!
http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-draw-learn

https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
>Proko
http://www.proko.com/videos/
>Ctrl+Paint
http://ctrlpaint.com/
>Hitokaku Index
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~zm5s-nkmr/
>0033
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=59317
>List of active livestreams
http://livestreamstatuslist.appspot.com/
>fellowBro's books
http://mediafire.com/?i44dwzkf9j9n8
>Tutorial/Reference Collection
http://pinterest.com/characterdesigh/
>Japanese Animu Tutorials
http://iradukai.com/
>Figures
http://reference.sketchdaily.net/

Remember the words of our good friend Glen Vilppu: “No rules, just tools.”

/ic/: "Post your work fgt"

Anonymous Thu Jan 8 18:44:52 2015 No.1938306
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Since there's a new thread might as well repost this...

Can i get some critique on these sketches? I know the proportions aren't quite right, been focusing on the gesture. Also, how to make this coloring style more appealing?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 8 18:45:28 2015 No.1938307 File: 262 KB, 1056x1492, LANCE OF LONGUINHO.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1938306

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 8 18:46:11 2015 No.1938308 File: 262 KB, 968x1880, GUERREIRO.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Thu Jan 8 18:53:18 2015 No.1938313
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Might as well repost mine too.
I'll put these on a 50% grey background when I get home, as I got that comment before the new thread was made.
Are these looking alright so far? Trying to be more loose than I normally am with these.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 8 19:16:07 2015 No.1938330 >>1938313 nice : ) could you recommend me books/other ressources on rendering?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 8 19:24:51 2015 No.1938338 File: 272 KB, 793x900, Seaporthimecolor.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Color'd and moved the nose down. Thoughts?

Anonymous Thu Jan 8 19:34:39 2015 No.1938346
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Reposting too

>>1938032
I might, although that depends on the time I get.
>>1938156
Thanks for the idea; it was meant to be 17 individual pieces though, I just compiled them together like this for fun.
>>1938032
Maybe.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 8 19:52:13 2015 No.1938367 >>1938338 Looks fucking retarded, sincerely don't do art anymore.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 8 21:31:14 2015 No.1938434 >>1938195 who's kyle? and thank you for your correction

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 8 21:34:14 2015 No.1938436 >>1938367 Not him, but is it because it serves no purpose other than fap material or is it due to more technical issues such as anatomy?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 8 22:17:53 2015 No.1938458 File: 252 KB, 604x1000, checkem.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 8 22:23:44 2015 No.1938467 >>1938300 >shell never eat your hot dog

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 8 22:32:21 2015 No.1938472 >>1938467 Don't sexualize my daughteru

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 8 22:39:18 2015 No.1938479 >>1938472 may i take her hand in marrige?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 8 22:46:41 2015 No.1938481 >>1938479 why hello there love rival.

Anonymous Fri Jan 9 00:01:10 2015 No.1938523
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>>1938338
>spiky hands near the cooch
Personally I don't like that, but if thats the character, then whatever.

>muscels in inner thigh
Ill admit, Im cherry picking like a mother fucker.

>overall
Eh. I might fap to it if Im just looking at the pussy and asshole. Everything else doesnt appeal to me personally, but thats just taste

Anonymous Fri Jan 9 01:24:04 2015 No.1938572
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I want to draw some really over exadurated stuff
I just can not decide on what heads shape look good
Do I want realistic head, do I want one thats basically a circle, do I want the ones where the cheeks stick really far out, I just cant decide
Is there anywhere I can look and compare styles?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 02:44:46 2015 No.1938581 File: 971 KB, 3000x2400, fart noise.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] finally got up the motivation to draw in months. is there anything i should fix with the sketch of person 1 before moving on to the next person?

Anonymous Fri Jan 9 02:48:08 2015 No.1938583
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finally got the motivation to draw for the first time in months. is there anything i should fix with the sketch of person 1 before moving on to person 2?
(reuploaded, fucking forgot about the file size.)

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 03:58:45 2015 No.1938599 >>1938367 Why do you even come here?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 06:08:39 2015 No.1938637 File: 230 KB, 801x1382, kk.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] unrelated warmups

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 07:23:37 2015 No.1938654 >>1938583 nicely dynamic, but the arm's position is wrong. the legs are in an extreme pose, so the right arm should be too and counterbalancing the body. I am talking about the carrier

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 08:02:32 2015 No.1938663 File: 893 KB, 3508x2480, Untitled-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Worth persuing?

Anonymous Fri Jan 9 08:10:29 2015 No.1938667

>>1938338
Your style kind of reminded me of neromashin, maybe it's the character. You drawing is quite fappable, two things bother me, one is that the blush lines that you use are very
thick and without any line weight and it makes them look like someone draw them on her face with a marker, take a look at how this artist does it to see what i mean http://exhentai.org/s/025410bbc7/760573-13

The other thing is how you render the eyelids, i know that you wanted to show form and then they are round but the eyes are actually in a pit inside the face and by not showing the forehead's shape
you made the eyes pop out like a horse's, i suggest you either render the whole skull more 3D or you tone down the rendering on the eyes as well.

>>1938367
Epic win, screencapped for future generations.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 08:35:23 2015 No.1938674 File: 629 KB, 1689x950, gettinallmichaelbayupinhere.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Not entirely happy with the colors in this but I'll post it anyway. Any advice would be appreciated though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 08:40:57 2015 No.1938677 >>1938674 its like I'm on newgrounds in 2005 again

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 09:00:28 2015 No.1938682 File: 1.62 MB, 4500x3400, desert tiger.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] something about the leg is bothering me, but I dont know what

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 09:25:16 2015 No.1938697 >>1938663 >DEM HANDS N' ARMS Remember, even with stylization, anatomy and proportion are extremely important. So study up and git gud.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 10:24:37 2015 No.1938729 >>1938682 her leg leg is too long in regards to how her hips are sitting

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 10:29:30 2015 No.1938733 >>1938729 ah, I see it now thanks m8

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 10:33:09 2015 No.1938735 >>1938682 I wonder what /k/ thinks about that weapon handling. It looks a bit awkward as if she's in the middle of doing something with it. What is she doing with it?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 10:36:28 2015 No.1938738 >>1938735 shotstocking the rifle beneath her armpit while she brings her left hand up from whatever she was doing with it I tried it out with my rifle and it felt okay, if its wrong I'll fix it

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 10:40:18 2015 No.1938739 File: 329 KB, 1500x566, eyesockets.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1938338 here's a suggestion for the face. try showing the bride of the nose more. I might try drawing one of these Enemy Vessels sometime

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 10:45:08 2015 No.1938743 >>1938739 This looks uncanny to me, i think just showing the depth and shape of the skull is enough, the noise is overdoing it in this style.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 11:12:48 2015 No.1938757 File: 1.69 MB, 4500x3400, desert tiger.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1938729 any better? I have a really hard time with this kind of pose, particularly with the legs

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 11:17:34 2015 No.1938761 File: 301 KB, 1500x512, dubs.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1938458 redjuice bro is back. check the foreshortening on that leg.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 11:30:17 2015 No.1938769 >>1938743 Uncanny is such a cop out buzzword on this board

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 11:32:41 2015 No.1938771 >>1938743 I'm with you. Shits gotten more weirder

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 11:42:13 2015 No.1938775 >>1938769 in this case it's applicable. he shouldn't have added nose. the face is so squashed, there's simply no place for the nose.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 11:43:51 2015 No.1938777 >>1938775 oh nvm, just saw the original. redline is better, but both are wrong stylistically.

Anonymous Fri Jan 9 11:51:46 2015 No.1938782

>>1938777
I am the guy who said that the first one looks like horse eyes, the redline made it better by adding depth to the skull but the nose has no place
in such a style as the other guy says, the style is made without a nose in mind, it looks out of place.

Anonymous Fri Jan 9 11:59:57 2015 No.1938785

>>1938739
The stuff you've copied there from Hampton or whoever without doing any actual thinking on your part is an abstraction of how the anatomy works. The plane changes are exaggerated further than real life just to make them more clear. Anime and plenty of other stylistic approaches try to simplify the plane changes, not exaggerate them.

You are the perfect example of someone who just mindlessly copies without actually understanding the practical application of it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 14:33:50 2015 No.1938887 File: 124 KB, 697x619, akai1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1938739 I dunno why everyone's hating on this guy, he did a pretty good job on the nose. But in my opinion, the mouth needs some work.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 14:43:18 2015 No.1938893 >>1938887 Because except for the eyelids that don't look bad now, it now looks like an anime girl with a disney nose, he basically changed something that there was just no reason to change in the first place the nose looked just fine.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 14:52:38 2015 No.1938906 >>1938893 Eh. It was just a suggestion, it's never bad to get lots of opinions and different pov's on your work. And some people really dig this semi-realistic style, so why not.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 14:59:52 2015 No.1938919 >>1938761 ayy nice fix thanks bro I was experimenting a bit with my workflow and didn't think it was still recognizable, guess it's the proportions that gives it away

Anonymous Fri Jan 9 15:01:33 2015 No.1938924

>>1938906
Because there was nothing inherently wrong with the placement or way of showing his nose in the first place and you might make him wander aimlessly of what he did wrong, you should have made it clear that it was a matter of taste from the beginning,
you did do a good job with the rest of the face however.

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>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 15:59:04 2015 No.1938974 >>1938654 thanks for the reply! i figured that something was off about the pose but i couldn't really put my finger on it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 18:35:49 2015 No.1939084 >>1938924 I only did this one edit of the paintover. >>1938887 But you've got a point, I guess.

Anonymous Fri Jan 9 19:33:11 2015 No.1939118
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im too a-scared to post my art on a forum like DA or tumblr. Anyone know any websites that upload images as easily as rule34paheal?

I dont know what to call this style, western underground?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 20:21:53 2015 No.1939133 >>1939118 >to scared to post on da or tumblr >post on 4chan you're backwards, mate. just upload it on tumblr dude. if you don't tag it no one will see it unless they have your url.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 20:43:26 2015 No.1939156 File: 598 KB, 1280x946, january 9 2015 4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] trying to reconcile basquiats approach to brushstrokes with my personal imagery.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 21:07:16 2015 No.1939174 >>1939118 I like it dude. You should go for it

Anonymous Fri Jan 9 21:36:58 2015 No.1939198
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I've been working on this old thing for a while since it was bugging me. I think I'm improving a lot but I don't want it to become too static, also I want to make convincing looking thick hips/thighs in perspective. I can't tell if I'm doing that exactly right.
one thing suggested to me was to make her fingers thicker, and I'll be doing that soon.

>Here is the original:
http://i.imgur.com/6xznzR7.png
>And the old version:
http://i.imgur.com/QLfjpQK.png

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 22:56:15 2015 No.1939257 File: 263 KB, 502x993, ren2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] warmup sketch, reworking this >>1937423 not doing nomura style this time im feeling a little stiff today, not like my muscles are stiff or anything just generally stiff

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 23:04:00 2015 No.1939264 >>1939257 >stiff yea man, loosin up dude. Get some gesture in there and drink some tea

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 23:15:14 2015 No.1939272 >>1939257 I agree with the other anon. A pose that isn't just standing with the arms at the side would liven things up. Exaggerated expressions and movements in drawings always help give it life.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 23:25:43 2015 No.1939274 >>1939198 Brekkist?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 23:31:12 2015 No.1939278 >>1939274 this?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 23:37:42 2015 No.1939281 >>1938436 Both.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 9 23:37:51 2015 No.1939283 >>1939274 No, but he's the one who made the suggestion >>1939278 what's that supposed to mean ;-;

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 10 00:01:21 2015 No.1939294 File: 1.95 MB, 2480x3508, 5675876.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] random doodles before bed

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 10 00:03:32 2015 No.1939295 >>1939294 muv luv top left?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 10 03:57:32 2015 No.1939435 File: 720 KB, 1596x710, reddudes.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How's all this? Leftmost girl was done first, rightmost girl was done last

Anonymous Sat Jan 10 04:01:40 2015 No.1939437

>>1939435

Improvement in the clothing and face is definitely noticeable anon, good job.

The hair in the first seems a bit better rendered compared to the last though, theres more sharp edges to it.

Look up Gurney Ribbon Technique for some neat advice on rendering hair and keep up the improvment mate.

Anonymous Sat Jan 10 04:25:17 2015 No.1939447
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Still having fun with these.
>>1938330
I'm probably the worst person to ask for stuff like that, I've never used any books. I just look at things, use mirrors, or look up visual references. I'm sure someone else can probably recommend some.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 10 05:10:10 2015 No.1939465 >>1939447 thats interesting! thank you anyways : )

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 10 13:18:42 2015 No.1939738 >>1939447 try to do something fappable.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 10 13:47:10 2015 No.1939762 File: 150 KB, 600x840, bug-esca2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 10 13:47:56 2015 No.1939764 File: 170 KB, 600x840, fairy-diansy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1939762

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 10 13:48:28 2015 No.1939766 >>1939762 good jobu rincunt.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 10 13:49:32 2015 No.1939769 File: 2.04 MB, 1280x2880, 20150110_012224.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anime studies and some bad stuff from imagination that I'd rather take out.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 10 14:11:23 2015 No.1939778 File: 17 KB, 235x331, sim.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Does anyone know if there exists some pdf's of this guys books? Really want to check them out but im a poor fag so i cant really afford them

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 10 16:46:00 2015 No.1939933 >>1939769 bretty gud

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 10 17:27:05 2015 No.1939961 File: 155 KB, 800x600, Clementine Draw.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is the figure standing out enough from the background in this? I always seem to have trouble making a focus in black and white pieces.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 10 17:38:39 2015 No.1939974 >>1939961 The left leg is getting kind of lost, and the cloud on the left side is at a similar angle to the bow, forming a tangent. Also I couldn't really tell that's a mountain; once again it's too similar to the clouds. Everything else is real good.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 10 18:25:31 2015 No.1940013 File: 223 KB, 1700x1024, bedpost.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 10 18:58:08 2015 No.1940053 >>1939274 it's brekkist's gf, keppok.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 10 18:59:20 2015 No.1940058 >>1940013 Looks interesting you should work on it more (the angle of the reflection in the mirror is wrong.)

Anonymous Sat Jan 10 19:41:41 2015 No.1940090

>>1939294
really nice spacepod figure in top left

>>1940013
I'm fond of this sketch, but head seems a bit large for the rest of the body and it doesn't look to be attached to the body (no neck), can't get a good read on her face, butt needs to be rounded out and fatter (too many straight lines)
and issues with the reflection as >>1940058 said

Anonymous Sat Jan 10 19:54:30 2015 No.1940096
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Hello! I have a few tips for aspiring manga artists, or even those who want to learn the style!

Mark Crilley is a good artist to learn from. He posts lessons on his youtube channel, and even has a couple "How To Draw" books (I only have his first one, but I'm looking for his second)! I also have a "How To Draw" book by Jeannie Lee, and it's really helpful!

Both are great with proportions, expressions, and ideas. Mark's book also helps with setting a scene and the surroundings! Both of them are very different in how and what they draw, but they're both really great!

While we're on the topic of references, there's these great reference sites called Atarichan and AtarichanDrawer. On AtarichanDrawer, you can draw figures over premade poses. On Atarichan, you can make your own poses!

I really hope this helps!

Mark's Youtube:
www.youtube.com/user/markcrilley

Jeannie's DeviantArt:
http://junosama.deviantart.com/

Atarichan:
http://www.eggazyoutatsu.net/atarichan.html

AtarichanDrawer:
http://www.eggazyoutatsu.net/atarichanDrawer.html

Anonymous Sat Jan 10 19:56:38 2015 No.1940097
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Tried to do that hand color light study from the Q thread. The colors are blending funny. More experimentation is needed and more hand practice.

Been browsing Pinterest recently - sorry don't know the artist refs. Doing quick sketches, then decided to practice coloring. Tried to outline stuff in gel pen to see what it looked like - I don't think it made any difference.

Thinking I might polish a turd or something tonight...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 10 20:03:46 2015 No.1940106 File: 33 KB, 584x576, 1362263720054.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1940096

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 10 20:10:41 2015 No.1940116 >>1940106 What?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 10 20:13:05 2015 No.1940119 >>1940096 I hope beginners don´t actually believe this shit

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 10 20:14:00 2015 No.1940122 >>1940096 This b8 is way too easy 4/10 try harder next time

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 10 20:40:56 2015 No.1940157 >>1940097 Holy crap, these are good! And those hands are just... UNF!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 10 21:41:01 2015 No.1940196 >>1940097 >color light study from the Q thread. Which is that?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 10 22:30:35 2015 No.1940219 >>1939447 Really like these. specially the guy wearing goggles, the fat lady and the guy's face next to her.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 00:31:58 2015 No.1940269 >>1940196 >>1940157 There are a bunch of really great hands in the question thread >>1936162, the originals are pretty cool mine are crappy knock offs

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 01:29:17 2015 No.1940296 Today is day two of art block for me. This hasn't happened in months. Shit I am scared. There is nothing that sounds appealing. What the fuck am I going to do?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 01:31:08 2015 No.1940298 File: 914 KB, 200x113, 1400795341761.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1940296 live and get over it

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 01:36:52 2015 No.1940301 >>1940298 >live I was expecting to be told to kill myself. 4chan, always keeps ya guessing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 01:38:24 2015 No.1940302 >>1940296 draw cubes

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 01:39:52 2015 No.1940303 >>1940296 Go do something. Watch a movie, go away for a bit, play vidya. Come back feel refreshed with new ideas or not

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 02:35:02 2015 No.1940324 File: 1.08 MB, 3000x3000, mlp.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Trying thinking in tumblr dimension.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 02:41:42 2015 No.1940326 >>1938739 If she's asian inspired then it would make sense that she doesn't have a pronounced nose bridge, asian people generally don't.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 02:46:31 2015 No.1940332 >>1940303 Yeah thats what I was actually doing. I was going to watch anime and read manga until I found something that I gave a damn about drawing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 02:50:28 2015 No.1940336 >>1940326 She's not Asian. She's a ship

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 04:05:20 2015 No.1940360 File: 86 KB, 600x630, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what do you think of my anime sonic /ic/

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 04:19:42 2015 No.1940365 File: 148 KB, 1118x759, 1417964355251.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1940360 Make sure to color his arms blue

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 04:26:24 2015 No.1940367 File: 2.92 MB, 2200x2212, sketchdoodlesFINISHEDweb.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1939738 Eh, don't really have any desire to draw porn. >>1940219 Thanks, glad you like 'em! I'm about done with these now, they were a fun diversion.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 05:39:34 2015 No.1940387 File: 235 KB, 521x1022, ren3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1939257 >>1939264 >>1939272 better?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 06:04:34 2015 No.1940392 >>1938307 >>1938306 >>1938308 the anatomy is really fucking bad.

Anonymous Sun Jan 11 06:10:03 2015 No.1940394
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I don't know how to paint and would like good guides on them and how I should set up Photoshop.

This was made out of spite so I have no real attachment to this piece. Come at me, bros.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 06:16:07 2015 No.1940396 >>1940394 Lines are messy and too thick Arm and leg are fucked Amazing polka dot stars Face, skirt could do some work Try to make do with few layers and not a bazillion of them

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 06:20:04 2015 No.1940401 >>1940396 Actually I'm only using Lineart, a single layer for coloring and background; the others were for gestures.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 06:20:42 2015 No.1940403 >>1940367 these are so neat. I want to follow your tumblr or something.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 06:23:14 2015 No.1940406 >>1940367 This is so good. Everything looks so good.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 06:42:33 2015 No.1940410 File: 351 KB, 630x1192, ren3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1940387 fixed the pose a little on my own

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 06:47:59 2015 No.1940412 File: 64 KB, 600x600, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What I saw compared to what I got. Absolute beginner, /ic/ pls help

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 06:54:13 2015 No.1940413 >>1940412 You should check out the sticky and beginner thread. Also, when drawing, don't reference another drawing unless you've got a basic understanding of how to draw the picture first. Use photographs of real people.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 07:55:42 2015 No.1940432 >>1940367 you dont have to draw porn to make girls fappable.

>>	RL Sun Jan 11 08:08:17 2015 No.1940446 >>1940412 See things as actual objects in 3d, not just outlines of 2d images. So like, you need to make sure she actually has a shoulder instead of a vaguely phallic-shaped outline.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 08:11:40 2015 No.1940448 >>1940412 Wow, I did not think that somebody could be that bad. That's lower than beginner, anon.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 08:13:11 2015 No.1940449 >>1940448 Then you havent seen mikufags first post.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 08:21:44 2015 No.1940453 >>1940412 That's a fucking terrible image to be studying anyway. PLEASE do not copy things that are already stylized, because there's no guarantee the artist knows what they're doing either.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 08:29:49 2015 No.1940458 >>1940453 This Oh god, I remember the days I thought Refeia was 10/10.

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>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 10:04:51 2015 No.1940520 >>1940096 lel. fucking kill yourself

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 10:08:58 2015 No.1940523 >>1940519 i like it. but you should try to be more delicate with the face, especially the eyes. a little to sloppy. it could look a lot better.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 10:16:34 2015 No.1940532 >>1940449 please do provide it if possible

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 10:26:08 2015 No.1940538 >>1940519 what the fuck are those tiny brush strokes ? you bitch nigga. it looks gross. use lasso around the fat bitch you drew and then invert it and then use big fucking brushes on background. bitch nigga.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 10:35:07 2015 No.1940542 >>1940538 please end yourself for the betterment of humankind. it's cringeworthy, ESPECIALLY if you're trolling.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 10:37:34 2015 No.1940544 >>1940538 don't know what you mean by tiny brush strokes? on the line art or the coloring? I did paint on a white background which I know makes the colors kinda gross

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 10:50:06 2015 No.1940549 >>1940544 the spacing on your brush is too big. I mean the brush strokes you did on background. you should use big brushes on BG. niogga.

Anonymous Sun Jan 11 11:48:29 2015 No.1940580
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How do you guys go about obtaining a "style"

I'm currently still a beginner and learning realism since that's the thing you're supposed to do, but how would you go about studying other art styles like pic related?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 11:50:55 2015 No.1940582 >>1940580 when understanding fundamentals make a moodboard of the styles you like and practice them and combine them, at a point you will make up things yourself

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 11:58:08 2015 No.1940584 >>1940580 it comes natural. you can try to force it, but really it just comes natural.

Anonymous Sun Jan 11 12:02:46 2015 No.1940587

>>1940582
>>1940584

Alright. I just want to make sure I'm heading on the right path since I'd like to see myself as an cartoon animator in the future. Taking classes for it this semester but I'd like to get a head start.

I will say this, as I continue to learn the anatomy of realism in people, cartoon anatomy makes a lot more sense and I feel its becoming easier to understand why certain features are exaggerate.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 12:20:53 2015 No.1940600 >>1940367 gunsmoke is absolute shit. compared to how well you rendered ogre below, it's disgusting. Sai or PS for colors?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 12:36:26 2015 No.1940612 >>1940580 you can start by reading the notes on the image you posted. "style" does come naturally, but it is still something you have to think about a lot. if ..you want it to aesthetic, that is.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 12:51:06 2015 No.1940626 >>1940600 >ogre is the new name for cyclops

Anonymous Sun Jan 11 13:15:16 2015 No.1940639
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>>1940584
>it comes natural

Does it though? I think we should make a distinction here between your personal style and the actual theory behind good stylization and shape design.

Sure, given enough time, you will naturally develop certain preferences which can be attributed as "your style", but will you naturally develop an understanding of what is actually good stylization? I highly doubt that. There is a lot of theory behind appealing stylization that is not something you just naturally pick up but is rather something you have to actively study and try to understand.

Anonymous Sun Jan 11 13:21:07 2015 No.1940644

>>1940639

There's a difference between learning the theory behind good stylization and personal stylization. From what I read the theory is a mix of "this is how you avoid falling into the uncanny valley" and the effects that certain stylization choices have on the onlooker.

Anonymous Sun Jan 11 13:28:59 2015 No.1940646

>>1940644
Yes, but when you say "personal stylization comes naturally", that means the artist who you told this and now believes that, won't bother learning the theory behind good stylization, so whatever personal stylization will come to him naturally won't be very good due to his lack of knowledge.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 13:43:13 2015 No.1940651 File: 257 KB, 1000x700, Untitled-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1939764

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 13:49:01 2015 No.1940654 File: 2.31 MB, 3264x2448, IMG_5149.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Because I didn't sleep :/

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 13:49:25 2015 No.1940655 >>1940639 someone explain to me the round and planar thing

Anonymous Sun Jan 11 13:50:19 2015 No.1940658

>>1940646

Well that isn't *entirely* true. Developing a style requires study on what's appealing, how to invoke a certain feeling, and a lot of winging it to make it look right.

I feel that /ic/ is taking the "don't use MUH STYLE as an excuse and focus on the fundamentals" bit of advice to its logical extreme. Like it's now "STYLE IS LIKE SUPER EASY TO DO YOU BUT YOU GOTTA BE AN ANATOMY MASTER THATLL MAKE LOOMIS AND VILPPU MAD JELLY FIRST"

Anonymous Sun Jan 11 13:58:48 2015 No.1940663

>>1940658
>a lot of winging it to make it look right.

Why would you want to "make it look right" you do it right with a solid foundation. If you are just doing guesswork while you are drawing maybe you should consider changing that and study on what you are guessing and be sure with confidence on what you are doing is in contrast with what you find in life.

The reason why /ic/ is always ontop of anatomy is because the knowledge that comes from anatomy includes proportion and forms necessary to get out of the flat and "into the solid" but that's not mentioning perspective you can not draw the figure without perspective but perspective will not teach you anatomy you must have a strong foundation on these things otherwise you will be guessing and struggling all the time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 14:00:03 2015 No.1940665 >>1940654 Now i wont be able to sleep

Anonymous Sun Jan 11 14:10:37 2015 No.1940671

>>1940663

When I say winging it I didn't mean guessing anatomy. I mean trying out new simplifications of form. For example,instead of fully rendering out a figure with all the values you only render with a shadow value, base value, and light value, and seeing what you like, don't like, and screwed up.

Also /ic/ is on top of anatomy because quite honestly it's the easiest bit to point out. We instinctively know when something feels off about a human figure. Most times we know something is off but it takes another pair of eyes to point out where.

Anonymous Sun Jan 11 14:21:48 2015 No.1940677

>>1940639
>There is a lot of theory behind appealing stylization that is not something you just naturally pick up but is rather something you have to actively study and try to understand.

In that case, where can I begin to understand this? Also, where did is the original source to pic related.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 14:31:13 2015 No.1940686 >>1940665 Haha!

Anonymous Sun Jan 11 15:27:27 2015 No.1940740

>>1940403
Thanks! And sure, my tumblr is: thdark.tumblr.com
>>1940406
Thank you, glad these came out alright.
>>1940432
I guess, but I don't have an urge to draw much of that either.
>>1940600
Wasn't really focused on the gunsmoke, just did that quickly for fun. So I agree with you, I didn't put much work into it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 15:36:28 2015 No.1940746 File: 181 KB, 1180x900, 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What do you guys think and of these, worth finishing?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 15:37:04 2015 No.1940747 File: 204 KB, 1043x900, 2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1940746

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 15:37:46 2015 No.1940748 File: 169 KB, 429x900, 3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1940746 >>1940747

Anonymous Sun Jan 11 15:40:59 2015 No.1940750

>>1938523

Thanks for your reply, i'll work on the legs and try to improve them.

>>1938667

Now that I look back those blush line were a bad choice yeah, i'll use the artist you mentioned as a reference. (nice stuff btw)

I also agree on your second point, I still find faces hard to define with color/values. Not sure if i'll edit the face in this piece but I will edit the blush lines/.

>>1938739

Thanks for the paint over, I don't think adding the bride of the nose will fit the style but I'm able to get useful information out of the repaint.

Sorry for the late respond by the way, I didn't have internet for 2 days.

Anonymous Sun Jan 11 15:53:19 2015 No.1940760
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>>1940677
>In that case, where can I begin to understand this?

"Drawn to life" is a pretty decent book on that subject. Also study gesture drawing. It is quite essential to stylization and uses the same principles of using curves and straights to create appealing contrast and guide the eye through the figure. Force is a good book for gesture drawing for animators.

>original source to pic related.

You mean the drawing of Rapunzel? Probably Glen Keane or Jin Kim. The picture itself is from Shiyoon Kim's tumblr where he posts quite a lot of that sort of stuff.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 16:33:04 2015 No.1940812 >>1940746 >>1940747 >>1940748 I wouldn't fap to it, but at least you learned something from your drawings. Someone else could very well like fapping too it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 16:37:48 2015 No.1940820 >>1940747 butthole isn't directly below the vagoo just fyi, needs to be lower and there's no taint to speak of

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 16:57:25 2015 No.1940840 File: 39 KB, 1148x549, guppy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1940820 its only by a tiny bit more than he already has bro. The length of balls to anus are more than cooch to poop shooter

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 16:59:44 2015 No.1940842 Where would I start if I wanted to draw people the way Adam Hudges does?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 17:00:28 2015 No.1940843 >>1940842 any picture he has made.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 17:01:50 2015 No.1940845 >>1940843 Que? Study it, until I get the style down from imagination?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 17:02:08 2015 No.1940846 >>1939778 bump

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 17:06:50 2015 No.1940849 >>1940845 I was in the same Jim Lee/ AH! shoe jam. What they both say is just learn anatomy so that making their style is super easy. And its yields truth.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 17:20:04 2015 No.1940864 >>1940820 Taint?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 17:28:02 2015 No.1940870 >>1940864 colloquial term for the perineum, the area between the balls/vagoo and anus

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 18:38:35 2015 No.1940909 >>1940367 Dude, do you have deviantart or tumblr?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 22:32:32 2015 No.1941052 File: 678 KB, 2000x1500, Midori Cruiser.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Drew this for a request thread. Feels like I did fairly well, even if it is a boring pose and I need to practice painting values way more.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 22:33:26 2015 No.1941053 >>1941052 amongst other things

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 22:35:47 2015 No.1941055 >>1941053 Many other things, but I'll get there.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 22:50:49 2015 No.1941064 >>1941055 dont only draw anime. doesnt matter if you want to be a mangaka or not, try new things that you think you'll be shit at. you will, but youll get better!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 23:04:11 2015 No.1941069 >>1941064 I do do that. Bloody hell, how poorly did I do to get this kind of response?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 23:06:36 2015 No.1941072 >>1941069 It looks really flat

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 23:20:54 2015 No.1941078 >>1941072 I see what you mean, some parts have some depth but overall it does look flat, especially the feet and twin blade thing. Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 23:35:17 2015 No.1941085 >>1941078 Also, I think the lack of any twisting makes it look flat as well. Legs are side view where torso and head are 3/4 and I'm not seeing any sort of connection between the two.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 23:46:50 2015 No.1941086 >>1941085 I was going for a 'skipping forward, turning to look at the viewer' type pose. But even then the legs would be following the motion of the head and torso if even a little. Gotta keep that one in mind.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 11 23:57:40 2015 No.1941098 >>1940760 Thanks for that info. As for the book Force, do you mean "Force: Dynamic Life Drawing for Animators"? If so, I'll go ahead and purchase that when I can.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 00:40:16 2015 No.1941119 File: 144 KB, 1476x957, julian.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Started as warm-up, but now I want to continue working on it and add more figures.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 00:51:19 2015 No.1941130 >>1941119 head should be a bit bigger I think really like how you got those textures on the chair though, lovely linework

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 01:52:01 2015 No.1941164 File: 333 KB, 543x687, Lulu.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do I colour? Are my perspectives good?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 02:20:23 2015 No.1941177 File: 1.02 MB, 818x1000, january-11-2015-2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1938300 gonna post this here too. its not anime but it's kind of a stylization.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 02:25:07 2015 No.1941178 File: 982 KB, 822x1000, january-11-2015-3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1938300 whoops wrong image. not anime but stylization kinda

Anonymous Mon Jan 12 03:09:08 2015 No.1941205

>>1941069

Very badly. There's some issues with the face especially with the eyes not respecting the plane of the head and the deformed jaw, but most of all the pose is stiff as fuck. Learn to gesture and create a more interesting and dynamic pose overall; right now she just looks like a mannequin where you just shifted her body parts.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 03:24:43 2015 No.1941209 File: 326 KB, 1000x1414, wendys.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Same anon as >>1941119 Did this one now for a drawthread at /co/

Anonymous Mon Jan 12 05:07:19 2015 No.1941243
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Did some major turd polishing - it was really boring.
>top - colored a quick sketch of some /ic/ bw ref.
the face and shoulders are wonky, if you hold it at an angle the face almost looks ok... Otherwise, I learned a bit about layering gray over the colors - it helps reduce saturation pretty well.
>bottom - not sure if it counts as OC, I'll post the ref in a sec
while I was inking I realized I had drawn a bunch of pikachus instead of bunnies. I had a lot of fun with the grass. I wish I could redo some of the color choices especially with the outfit, and the skin got too dark with v95. I also kept forgetting where the light source was - so the lighting is really inconsistent

Are colors farther in the BG supposed to be lighter / less saturated? Any tricks for calculating the cast shadow? I'm always afraid I am going to over do it.

Anonymous Mon Jan 12 05:10:11 2015 No.1941244
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>>1941243
>Top Left - ref picture
>Bottom left - pencil work
>Top Right - inked
>Bottom Right - colored
Probably should have used Bristol board instead of shitty card stock - oh well something to look forward to next time I'm turd polishing

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 05:24:09 2015 No.1941250 >>1941205 Do you mind giving me an example or a redline to help me understand how I went wrong with the eyes and jaw?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 05:36:43 2015 No.1941260 File: 350 KB, 1077x1429, Lulu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1941164 I tried Used the water brush on Sai

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 07:18:30 2015 No.1941287 File: 182 KB, 718x876, 2015-01-12_20-08-30.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Need a crit. Colours are just there to make me happy so ignore it,I'll change those later

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 08:54:16 2015 No.1941355 File: 82 KB, 450x253, 760070-bigthumbnail.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] For the Digital artists What do you draw in? Sai, photoshop, Manga Studios, MS Paint?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 08:57:57 2015 No.1941357 >>1941355 Sai and PS

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 09:01:09 2015 No.1941359 >>1941355 sai, manga studio and photoshop, all of them have certain useful things or things that the one do better than the other, download them all and experiment.

Anonymous Mon Jan 12 09:05:54 2015 No.1941362 [DELETED]

>>1941287
I feel as though the foreshortening on the the far streetlights should be more extreme giving the kind of 'lens' you've chosen.

there are some wobbly ellipses on the bike that need to be better in the finished thing, machines and bikes especially for some reason tend to make the smallest mistake very visible.

as it is now there is way way too much pointless space up there in the top-right, you could crop in way closer to the rider. 'filling the frame' as it's called is generally a good idea. if there's going to be something up there be careful that it isn't the same size as the rider (in a 2d sense) otherwise the comp. will be too balanced, you could fix that by repositioning the rider and bringing her/him closer to the viewer.

it's also perhaps a bit boring for a stand alone illustration. if it's part of a series of some kind as an establishing shot or something it's fine.

good stuff, looking forward to seeing more completed versions.

Anonymous Mon Jan 12 09:08:22 2015 No.1941368

>>1941287
I feel as though the foreshortening on the the far streetlights should be more extreme given the kind of 'lens' you've chosen.

there are some wobbly ellipses on the bike that need to be better in the finished thing, machines and bikes especially for some reason tend to make the smallest mistake very visible.

as it is now there is way way too much pointless space up there in the top-right, you could crop in way closer to the rider. 'filling the frame' as it's called is generally a good idea. if there's going to be something up there be careful that it isn't the same size as the rider (in a 2d sense) otherwise the comp. will be too balanced, you could fix that by repositioning the rider and bringing her/him closer to the viewer.

it's also perhaps a bit boring for a stand alone illustration. if it's part of a series or some kind as an establishing shot or something it's fine.

good stuff, looking forward to seeing more completed versions.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 09:34:29 2015 No.1941384 >>1941355 SAI and sometimes Photoshop to fix the colours on scanned drawings.

Anonymous Mon Jan 12 10:01:46 2015 No.1941397
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>>1941368
>good stuff, looking forward to seeing more completed versions.

Anon please,I can't handle expectations.

Anyways,thanks for the crit
I'll try to apply what you've said in the final version

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 10:38:27 2015 No.1941418 >>1941355 Clip Studio Paint/Manga Studio does everything you'll ever need.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 10:58:53 2015 No.1941435 File: 92 KB, 557x671, Ahri.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1941260 And another one with those weird Helmet mouth guards noses

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 10:58:58 2015 No.1941436 >>1941418 I have Clip Studio Paint because it came with my tablet but I don't really use it since I can't find the stabilizer settings. Where the fuck are the stabilizer settings?I've tried googling but had no luck whatsoever finding it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 11:08:40 2015 No.1941441 File: 42 KB, 528x684, ss+(2015-01-12+at+11.07.31).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1941436 Here

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 11:15:59 2015 No.1941448 >>1941436 >I can't find the stabilizer settings. Seriously if this is hindering you form work maybe you should practice on your line confidence instead of relying on a crutch.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 11:25:24 2015 No.1941451 >>1941448

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 11:28:04 2015 No.1941452 File: 65 KB, 747x351, ss+(2015-01-12+at+11.24.21).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1941448 I often notice that lines look much worse and less natural with high stabilizer. No stabilizer is the only way to go.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 12:08:15 2015 No.1941474 >>1941448 very minimal stabilizing is fine. the stylus is way more slippery than a regular pencil.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 12:40:28 2015 No.1941511 >>1941164 >>1941260 >>1941435 How did you obtain this type of style in drawing?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 18:51:18 2015 No.1941818 >>1941355 FireAlpaca. Am I missing something from those commercial softwares?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 19:59:30 2015 No.1941877 File: 214 KB, 961x827, paintingpractice.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1940394 Is this how I should fix it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 20:00:48 2015 No.1941879 >>1941435 Wrong hand.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 20:53:51 2015 No.1941935 >>1941511 Err, I wasnt really trying to do anything special Its kinda a bland style I'd say >>1941879 Oh Shit thanks buddy

>>	RL Mon Jan 12 20:57:00 2015 No.1941937 >>1941877 I think the left leg could be a bit more forward, more dynamic. Nice job correcting the weird leg proportions.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 21:11:36 2015 No.1941943 File: 386 KB, 710x703, tumblr_n7y2glWfso1ra4ip5o1_1280.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Not sure if right thread....but Id love to colour like feverworm - any tips? Pic related is one of their artworks

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 22:04:28 2015 No.1941986 >>1941448 the problem was that the stabilizer was too strong it was annoying rather than helping my lines

Anonymous Mon Jan 12 22:27:07 2015 No.1941997

>>1941943
I don't know this artist very well, but just by looking at this piece I can give you a little bit of advice.
>pick main color- in this case, red- and have it be the most saturated overall
>pick color opposite main color- in this case, green- and make it almost as saturated so that it pops out
>use pastel-esque colors (a pale yellow-orange for skin, grey-green/blue/red for banners in the back
>blur the subject matter with the background where there is no need for emphasis (such as the area by the bend of the arm)
>use a hard round brush on varying opacity so that you can blend easily by color picking and so on

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 23:19:46 2015 No.1942045 File: 269 KB, 1280x470, january 12 2015 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] landscape

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 12 23:23:00 2015 No.1942048 >>1941943 Yeah look at the hyung tae Kim thread in the Catalogue. It's the same shit with thicker and flatter strokes.

Anonymous Tue Jan 13 00:51:38 2015 No.1942091
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Why is it all I draw now is LOL champs
Anyway
When drawing this I found the head to be a pain in the ass and tried to measure how big the jaw should be by putting a small oval under the head circle
Is there any good head tutorial for anime?

Anonymous Tue Jan 13 01:12:24 2015 No.1942103

I'm primarily interested in cartooning / comic / manga art, so I'm assuming this thread is the best place to ask.

Where do you begin with practice when it comes to these sorts of styles? I'm assuming I need to have a fluid grasp on being able to draw real human beings and creatures before I even attempt to draw something more along these lines, right? I keep hearing that it's a bad thing and that looking at manga / etc. will influence me in the wrong ways / get me into bad habits / etc.

Or is it something I could / should be practicing concurrently to studying more "traditional" art? I'm afraid of screwing up and winding up like those 'improvement meme' people who don't improve at all in ten years, so I've been avoiding attempting to draw or even look at these kinds of things for fear of it.

Anonymous Tue Jan 13 01:20:32 2015 No.1942108

>>1942091
BRUH!!! did you not take the advice the others have given you!!! i also hope you're not trolling us :( but like actually go back to the drawing bored find friends that are capable of helping you and practice drawing on paper first. I don't want to see you get shit on while you're still a beginner :( good luck and listen to advice

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 13 01:21:52 2015 No.1942110 >>1942108 board* you fagget

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 13 01:25:27 2015 No.1942111 lol stupid ass ppl cant even spell properly on ic -.-

Anonymous Tue Jan 13 01:34:14 2015 No.1942115

>>1942091

You need to start by drawing on paper. Digital art is more advanced and allows you to multiple things that you probably wont be able to do until you master the basics. Start by drawing on paper. Also master your proportions and draw ACTUAL people. The people who draw beautiful cartoons/animations/etc all begin by drawing real people and understanding how perspective works.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 13 01:39:12 2015 No.1942116 >>1942111 lol ppl, you mean people? lol stupid ass person cant even support his argument with proper spelling. -.-

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 13 01:45:38 2015 No.1942117 File: 434 KB, 4096x2304, New Canvas.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1942091 Here is a good edit for you!

Anonymous Tue Jan 13 01:56:30 2015 No.1942123

>>1942108
Im really confused right now, I didnt get any advice. Isnt /ic/ the primary educational drawing board?
>>1942115
Yeah I should draw from reference more, been drawing for about 3 or 4 months now and I know more than what I did before
I dont really have any where I can just draw people IRL, is stuff like sketchdaily.net good?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 13 01:59:44 2015 No.1942125 File: 455 KB, 966x1372, anniecocks.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1942091 >>1942117 and another

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 13 02:00:41 2015 No.1942127 >>1942123 niggah i gave you advice on your last drawing :( or are there two fucking annie drawers

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 13 02:01:17 2015 No.1942128 >>1942125 lol noob cant even fucking red line properly. That cum drop on the chin looks like her chin is melting. fix it you fuck

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 13 02:02:45 2015 No.1942129 >>1942125 this is perfect what a marvelous red line. Toppest of cocks and you deserve the finest praises. welcome to ic kids

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 13 02:04:44 2015 No.1942131 >>1942125 Thats not a redline Thats an entire different drawing, you dont shade when doing a redline

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 13 02:07:27 2015 No.1942134 >>1942131 well there are lines that are red soooooooo yeah he has that going for him. plus its a joke

>>	RL Tue Jan 13 02:17:34 2015 No.1942140 >>1942125 More redlines please

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 13 02:30:39 2015 No.1942144 >>1942127 Ah right, well I have been studying up on that Been looking into getting into a art class, but the government decided to go full retard on us

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 13 02:38:46 2015 No.1942147 >>1942103 You're definitely going to want to learn the fundamentals of realistic drawing if you want to be good at stylization.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 13 02:53:50 2015 No.1942151 >>1941435 Grandma, why does your breasts sag so bad?

Anonymous Tue Jan 13 02:56:06 2015 No.1942154
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Trying out some composition sketches for a boxing match, thinking about taking some elements from the orange and purple one, after fixing his broken arm and body floating in space.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 13 03:12:27 2015 No.1942159 File: 344 KB, 1080x478, In order.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1942123 >>1942115 >>1942108 >>1942091

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 13 03:24:52 2015 No.1942166 >>1942159 How does something that super deformed even reflect on that kind of detail and anatomy? I'm willing to bet that if you found the artist on the left they couldn't pump out the shit on the right.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 13 03:57:40 2015 No.1942184 File: 113 KB, 954x629, fuck.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] is there a simpler guide to perspective than made easy? like I want to draw robots and shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 13 04:22:09 2015 No.1942190 >>1942159 i think the person who drew that chibi probably could trace a few poses bra.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 13 04:31:04 2015 No.1942191 File: 20 KB, 480x640, everything is a box.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1942184 If you can draw a box, then you can draw a robot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 13 04:41:04 2015 No.1942195 >>1942191 I don't know how to post the link on 4chan, but there's some anatomy guide that teaches perspective, it's the first link when you search "perspective anatomy deviantart" on google so pretty much the lines have to be the same?

Anonymous Tue Jan 13 04:47:10 2015 No.1942201
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I'm sorry if it's not the right place to ask, I'm not a regular as you can see.

I'm trying to redraw the arm that was under a sound effect but I can't get it to look right. Could someone give me a hand?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 13 05:06:16 2015 No.1942208 >>1942201 The whrist is thiner.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 13 05:11:27 2015 No.1942210 File: 35 KB, 200x275, hey.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1942201

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 13 05:13:38 2015 No.1942211 >>1942208 >>1942210 Thanks.

Anonymous Tue Jan 13 05:29:15 2015 No.1942219
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Watched how to train your dragon - downloaded the art book. The back of the drawing looks more interesting that the front... markers were bleeding like crazy. Any tips on sketching quickly and minimizing the bleed?

Uhhh what should I work on this week?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 13 07:12:06 2015 No.1942251 File: 3.34 MB, 4200x5100, nuggers.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Need some critique on this stupid piece i just made in like an hour. Been drawing since mid July of this yea.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 13 07:46:23 2015 No.1942276 >>1942251 perspective

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 13 07:49:06 2015 No.1942280 >>1942251 Looks super flat and your line quality is low quality.

Anonymous Tue Jan 13 08:13:36 2015 No.1942294

>>1942251
>Been drawing since mid July of this yea.
Nobody cares about your excuses.

I hate your edgy color palette, shadows that doesn't make any sense (no clear source of light, horns are lighted from the bottom, skull is lighted from left and face is lighted from above and right), your line quality is terrible (next time for making 1 edge use only 1 line), cramped composition looks just ugly (next time spend at least 5 minutes making various thumbnails) and lack of any edge control makes it look very lazy (use masks, watch some videos from ctrlpaint).
Looks like a waste of time to me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 13 08:53:40 2015 No.1942314 >>1942276 >>1942280 >>1942294 Thanks

Anonymous Tue Jan 13 10:12:05 2015 No.1942344

>>1941935
I only ask cause I'd like to avoid taking the path you're taking. I'm doing my studies from the sticky and taking advice here, but my biggest fear in my drawing path is to obtain a style like yours.

I was hoping you'd give some more insight as to how you got that style so I can avoid any trail to that path at all cost.

Anonymous Tue Jan 13 10:18:26 2015 No.1942354
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>>1942166
>mfw I was once this stupid
>"Why learn real life? I wanna draw anime!" I thought
>Finally shut up, learn real life anatomy
>Months later after studying a lot of anatomy (among other things), I watch a random anime show to see how they do their anatomy
>It all makes too much sense now.

Honestly, drawing from life is the best way to get better. I feel so dumb for questioning it to begin with.

Anonymous Tue Jan 13 10:51:49 2015 No.1942375
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>>1942344
Well I didnt have a style in mind when I drew, think I was watching a Nichijou clip during Ahri, the fox girl,
I havent had more than like 20 "stylized" drawings since Ive started so I wouldnt really call it a style
Sat down and thought about it, and thought that I would like to eventually draw like these guys, its both basic but at the same time well detailed where it needs to be
Guess I should try emulating them? After I study more real stuff

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 13 14:30:27 2015 No.1942576 File: 1.33 MB, 2232x3264, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] gonna bring this into Sai for colors, forgot how natural traditional inking feels.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 13 14:34:06 2015 No.1942578 >>1942576 more like how unforgiving it is.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 13 14:55:47 2015 No.1942592 File: 439 KB, 850x1100, Sketchbook_221_colors.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1938300 I wanna refine muh style. Any thoughts? (change face, coloring, hair etc)

>>	RL Tue Jan 13 14:59:29 2015 No.1942595 >>1942592 Everything is pretty decent, I especially like the hand, but the face leaves something to be desired. All her features seem squashed into the bottom portion of her face and thus her face seems out of proportion with the rest of her body.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 13 15:13:30 2015 No.1942609 File: 100 KB, 733x1000, 1421151126437.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Do you often get bored right in the middle of drawing?

Anonymous Tue Jan 13 15:17:22 2015 No.1942613

>>1942592
Face is far too small for the size of her head, and if you make the face larger it won't make the hands look so gigantic either. Since it's a simplified style I would suggest some thicker lines and varying up your line weight to make the whole thing more interesting to look at.
There's also issues with the body that you could fix by doing more anatomical studies.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 13 15:30:08 2015 No.1942621 File: 45 KB, 461x400, 1419671480604.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1942251 >>1942609

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 13 15:31:11 2015 No.1942622 >>1942592 Looks like a better Sycra, ya dun gud kid

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 13 15:40:32 2015 No.1942627 >>1942621 Yes, >>1942251 become my inspiration, after I criticized him. I started wondering: am I really in any position to criticize him? Am I better? Unfortunately I'm not a better artist (since I can't even), but at least I had some fun.

Anonymous Tue Jan 13 17:24:07 2015 No.1942719
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your faces are still no good.
as you mentioned, "refinement" is an issue. you faces are too rough, and i'm not talking about the features, i'm talking about the execution in general.
with the eyes you can't even tell where she's looking. there is no character at all.

pic related. you can have simple faces while still retaining some life to it. yours doesn't do that at all.
or just look at >>1942375
compare yourself to those, put them side by side and see what you lack in execution/detail/care.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 13 20:42:31 2015 No.1942874 Ran into a site called Cartoonsmart.com. That a good source in getting educated to capture that style?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 13 20:49:01 2015 No.1942881 File: 424 KB, 942x1000, ruan_waifu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] doodle

Anonymous Tue Jan 13 21:08:18 2015 No.1942895
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>>1942874
I thought I recognized that style anywhere.
As for the other works on that page, they look like shit. Seems like they were going for a Dobson and a Scribblenaughts look

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 13 21:08:34 2015 No.1942896 >>1942881 >height: 183 cm I guess manlets will never waifu Ruanjia.

Anonymous Tue Jan 13 21:31:17 2015 No.1942904
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I want to practice anatomy. Should I take lots of time on drawing a single figure exactly as I see it or would it be better to do lots of smaller gesture drawings with less detail? Or are there better options to getting anatomy right?

Anonymous Tue Jan 13 21:53:01 2015 No.1942915
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>>1942904
start by drawing the neutral position on a larger scale. Once you can do that decently, then you can start to experiment with different poses. If you feel you're too pro for that, try copying pose references.

Anonymous Tue Jan 13 22:22:01 2015 No.1942930
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I'm still really new working digitally, but I wanted to try my hand at a simple design to get the hang of it. Still took forever. I know the outside line is really sloppy, and the arms/hands are really simple/not correct, but I'm not completely sure how.

Also, depending on the piece, how long does it take you to do a digital piece, and how long do you think it took you when you were first starting out?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 13 23:08:12 2015 No.1942967 >>1942895 Yea, I wasn't too if I should approach it, but upon second thoughts, I may pass for now.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 00:59:58 2015 No.1943074 File: 204 KB, 1125x743, Konachan.com - 193917 2girls ass bed black_hair blush breasts gray_hair headband jjune nipples open_shirt original panties petals purple_eyes thighhighs underwear - Copy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] red line pls

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 01:02:31 2015 No.1943075 >>1943074 What do you gain from posting a random hentai picture here?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 01:03:40 2015 No.1943076 >>1943075 Proof that all anime artists are shit?

Anonymous Wed Jan 14 01:06:03 2015 No.1943078

>>1942930

It can take from a few hours to days depending on how much time youre willing to dedicate towards the work. However, to be honest an artist should know that none of their work will ever be "finished" because there is no such thing as complete perfection in art.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 01:06:11 2015 No.1943079 >>1943074 no fuck off

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 01:07:22 2015 No.1943080 >>1943076 >niche thread on /ic/ >all anime artists

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 01:33:15 2015 No.1943089 File: 276 KB, 1200x685, gatini.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 01:37:54 2015 No.1943093 File: 1.83 MB, 900x1128, Dodorider_resize.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just drew these over the past couple of days. 1/2

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 01:38:25 2015 No.1943094 File: 1.72 MB, 900x1099, kookookachooresize.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1943093 2/2

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 01:41:31 2015 No.1943096 >>1943074 how can someone understand so much but draw that leg like that?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 01:44:19 2015 No.1943099 >>1943096 but it's fine anon.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 01:45:20 2015 No.1943101 File: 480 KB, 3300x2400, Newve.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1938300 More practice sketches.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 01:46:25 2015 No.1943102 >>1943099 look at the right femur... way too long.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 01:48:46 2015 No.1943103 >>1941355 I really like ArtRage, personally.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 01:51:25 2015 No.1943106 >>1943102 but anon, if you take the left and measure it to the right it's the same length and you have to account the perspective like how the buttcheeks are drawn.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 02:10:33 2015 No.1943121 >>1943106 her hips are a cocked a bit towards the 'camera.' there is an error there if you take a look at how her hips are working, but it's nothing to do with the length of the leg.

Anonymous Wed Jan 14 03:40:15 2015 No.1943165
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>>1938300

Just a doodle for a random TES-based thing I'm doing. I find it's easier and more fun to design and color a character as a mini before getting serious with them.

Happy with the way the axe guy came out. Sword guy will need a tweaking, and I need to choose better colors for the underclothes for big coat dude. Thinking of all browns with varying values.

>>1943094
I like the flowing curve, from the slope of the forehead, to his tusks and down his open blazer.

>>1943089
The way it's right forelimb is positioned seems awkward. Maybe press both of them together so it looks more symmetrical?

>>1943093
Love the coloring in this one, especially the orange on blue palette. Face looks a bit weird, but if it's style, it's okay. Torso seems stiff and blocky.

Was this TD?

>>1943074
The thigh of the white-haired woman on the left is way longer than her right. The eye placement on both girls is a bit off, too, and the back of her left hand seems to cave inward.

Great, otherwise. How does her underwear work?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 11:11:29 2015 No.1943368 >>1942592 blog?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 11:50:12 2015 No.1943385 File: 2.59 MB, 1385x1778, cicero2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 14:02:00 2015 No.1943503 >>1943368 http://www.sycra.net/

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 14:21:57 2015 No.1943519 >>1943503 >>1942622 lel

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 14:36:32 2015 No.1943534 >>1942251 >middle of july, this year >it's still January

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 15:19:01 2015 No.1943562 >>1943074 the only problem with this is that the two aren't looking at each other.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 15:28:33 2015 No.1943566 >>1941244 Too cute

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 15:48:03 2015 No.1943576 >>1941244 >>1941243 One problem I see is with the 2nd image I'm not getting a sense of twisting from her torso.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 15:53:51 2015 No.1943587 >>1943101 Neat! Keep on!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 15:53:53 2015 No.1943588 File: 678 KB, 380x400, 1403730259417.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1943368 http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=13298523 http://knylon.tumblr.com/ Yeah. >inb4 New blog

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 16:14:18 2015 No.1943607 File: 10 KB, 156x191, pringle-eyed.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1943588 >Gender: Female

Anonymous Wed Jan 14 16:18:30 2015 No.1943612

>>1943607
Gee way to help attract all the autists.
>>1943588
>not hiding your personal info
All it too was a hint of pussy to dox Teal and start a massive shitstorm involving their work, if I where you I would revise that profile and reveal as little info as possible especially if you publicize on /ic/ but that's just me

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 16:22:29 2015 No.1943616 >>1943607 My pixiv profile also says female, doesn't mean it's the truth.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 16:26:32 2015 No.1943623 File: 61 KB, 480x636, it really does attract them.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1943612 >implying dan is actually female

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 16:52:33 2015 No.1943647 >>1943623 d-dan?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 16:55:51 2015 No.1943651 >>1943623 >>1943647 Dan-iela Silly anons

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 16:56:58 2015 No.1943652 >>1942592 That face is super small and there's clear anatomy issues.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 18:19:11 2015 No.1943765 >>1943588 Don't call yourself an H-doujin artist if you've never drawn a comic.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 18:54:52 2015 No.1943798 File: 19 KB, 149x156, 6547657876868678686786876.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How to draw "girly" shoulders and clavicle? I can't construct female figures. Shoulders always is too big. They're looking like a Apollo

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 19:01:11 2015 No.1943804 >>1943798 Maybe if you posted an image not for ants.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 19:12:17 2015 No.1943813 >>1943804 I deleted it because of 303% zoom. It's shit anyway

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 20:53:19 2015 No.1943908 >>1943623 How do you know I'm Dan?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 14 22:38:07 2015 No.1943993 New Thread: >>1943992 >>1943992 >>1943992

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 15 07:19:41 2015 No.1944230 >>1943534 kek

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 15 11:51:46 2015 No.1944397 >>1943908 because the face looks stupid

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 16 13:05:44 2015 No.1945638 >>1941069 pretty bad. try to flip the picture horizontal maybe you ll see it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 17 19:24:10 2015 No.1947172 >>1939769 draw more dude heads, Chicks look chicky, dudes look pointy or skull less

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