/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.1894987]

Lets get an animation thread started. It'll be a little different this time.
ITT: Post references and we will study them.

[Anonymous No.1894991]

>>1894987
I guess I'll get the ball rolling even though I gave up 2 frames in. It's the thought that counts right?

[Anonymous No.1894997]

>>1894987
Here's one more

[Anonymous No.1895009]

>>1894991
jw, what software are you using to animate?

[Anonymous No.1895025]

>>1895009
Seriously, the word "software" should be banned from these threads. It's flash, by the way.

[Anonymous No.1895026]

>>1895009
I used toonboom animate. You could get the same result with flash though.

[Anonymous No.1895028]

>>1895009
I used toonboom animate. You could get the same result with flash though. The other dude isn't me, don't know why he replied.

[Anonymous No.1895231]

>>1895025
what makes you say that?

>>1895026
thanks for the info

[Anonymous No.1895997]

I'll try working on this soon, but in the meantime, for people who want to know more about animation check this thread that a guy made that compiled information for animation based learning >>1894428

[Anonymous No.1896552]

>wow it's fucking nothing

Whatever, had fun.

[Anonymous No.1896743]

kind of forcing it into a loop

[Anonymous No.1896744]

Here's mine, I got lazy and looped the body though

[Anonymous No.1896746]

I would forget the attachment

Here's mine, I got lazy and looped the body.

Nice work in the thread, always better to try something than not do anything

[Anonymous No.1896763]

>>1894987
>>1894997
Oh wow these are great references for practice! Where did you get them from? Are there any more??

[Anonymous No.1896768]

>>1896763
http://www.youtube.com/user/endlessreference/videos

[Anonymous No.1896788]

>>1896743
why would u...

[Anonymous No.1896798]

>>1896743
That looks really nice

[Anonymous No.1896802]

>>1894997
i can't do this

[Anonymous No.1896857]

something

[Anonymous No.1896864]

>>1896743

[Anonymous No.1896872]

>>1896864
nice forms but there not enough sense of weight or momentum in it.

[Anonymous No.1896886]

uhhh i know this isn't really relevant to any references or even near realistic, but i just started animating, i know some basic basic concepts but that's pretty much it. I just got a trial for flash and Im just testing it out

These are pretty simple keyframes, but I was just trying to get some movement down, any tips?

Also, how many frames per second should i work with?

[Anonymous No.1896892]

>>1896864
Cool. Got a webpage or gallery of any kind?

[Anonymous No.1896905]

>>1896872
thanks, i understand weight but what is momentum in animation? what do you do to show momentum?

[Anonymous No.1896907]

>>1896857
another something i made

>>1896886
nice motion! I especially like the end part when he kicks towards the camera.

[Anonymous No.1896912]

>>1896892
thanks but I got nothing

[Anonymous No.1896914]

>>1896905
I don't know what I'm saying I guess weight and momentum are the same. What's bugging me is when he jumps he just kind floats up without showing any build up. He also spends too long in the air. Anticipation and reaction.

[Anonymous No.1896925]

>>1896914
yes I agree that jump needs better timing

[Anonymous No.1896951]

well I did this yesterday

[Anonymous No.1896961]

>>1896907
You need a walk cycle before this. People don't just slip and fall while standing still.

[Anonymous No.1896964]

>>1896951
really good, i like it

[Anonymous No.1896968]

>>1896961
I think the implication is there was an earthquake or explosion or something. Notice the frame shakes?

[Anonymous No.1896969]

>>1896961
>>1896968
Yeah I was going for an earthquake.

[Anonymous No.1896971]

>>1896951
The forms are pretty inconsistent. She looks like a much taller person sitting down than when standing up.

[Anonymous No.1896975]

>>1896971
You're right, and she also varies quite a bit in weight/body shape. It's just what happens when you work without any plan or keyframes. I'm still trying to get better at the consistency thing.

[Anonymous No.1896978]

>>1896969
You should add some objects in the environment (like a vase or flowerpot) that react to the earthquake, which could also show the force of the earthquake.

[Anonymous No.1896985]

>>1896864
changed some stuff

[Anonymous No.1896986]

>>1896985
Center of balance seem to be off, is he's running a circle around the box, he needs to lean inwards more.

[Anonymous No.1896987]

>>1896986
wow didn't thought of that thanks!

[Anonymous No.1897690]

how do I into animating effects like this?

[Anonymous No.1897692]

>>1897690
Slowly, for hours. It's easier than it looks, but a pain in the ass to do. Consult Adam Phillips if you want specifics.

[Anonymous No.1897796]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuQqGbkYE90

try something from this if interested.

[Anonymous No.1897829]

>>1897796
Ain't that the truth.

I spent most of the day trying to make this work. The animation itself wasn't hard. But trying to make the effects work through various experiments was a huge pain in the ass. It's still too rough though (he even lost his belt somehow?) so I'll have to refine this color thing with the next one some more.

[Anonymous No.1897856]

[Anonymous No.1897858]

>>1897856

[Anonymous No.1897860]

>>1897856

[Anonymous No.1897869]

>>1896768
Thanks!

[Anonymous No.1897874]

>>1897860
I'd go one frame deeper with the crouch and also lift the heels of the ground.

[Anonymous No.1897886]

>>1897860
the balls frame rate is too slow

[Anonymous No.1897915]

>>1897874
>>1897886

[Anonymous No.1897922]

>>1897886
>>1897874

[Anonymous No.1897923]

>>1897874
>>1897886

[Anonymous No.1897927]

>>1897923
I think the person seems to be too quick standing back up.

[Anonymous No.1897931]

>>1897927

[Anonymous No.1897935]

>>1897927
I think it's all right, it's just that this anon seems to have a really... blocky and "strict" form of blocking out. Id recommend going more loose, instead of putting crosses on all joints and stuff.

[Anonymous No.1897936]

>>1897927

[Anonymous No.1897953]

>>1896802
Could do with a little more exaggeration, but it actually flows really nicely, good job

[Anonymous No.1898236]

Walk and run animations for a game I'm developing

Any quick fixes before I move on to the next set of poses?

[Anonymous No.1898239]

>>1898236
the head is so stiff it looks like shes wearing a mask

[Anonymous No.1898243]

>>1898239
yeah head animation(hair/ears/eyes) will all be animated in-game, so I won't have to worry about syncing all those with the body frames. sorry should have pointed that out

[Anonymous No.1898245]

>>1898236
surely you'll animate the head as well? The hair, maybe add blinking in the run-cycle, things like that.

Also the hands, you gotta fix the 'tweening on those, the shapes are inconsistent which makes them wobble. There's some wobblyness in the shoes as well but the hands are definitely the biggest problem.

[Anonymous No.1898247]

>>1898236
Info on game?

[Anonymous No.1898249]

>>1898245
hands are definitely the biggest pain i've had. Are you mostly talking about the walk cycle's hands?

[Anonymous No.1898254]

>>1898249
Yeah mostly. In the run cycle, when her arm is fully extended forwards there's a weird twitch when she starts pulling it back as well.

[Anonymous No.1898257]

>>1898247
Not much info yet since I just started. It'll be similar to rayman legends though. So far just a few poses/BG done

[Anonymous No.1898260]

>>1898254
thought it was just me, but I guess not. Will fix, thanks

[Anonymous No.1898736]

>>1894987
Bros, i want to try making some animations, experiment with it and see if it's cool as shit, but i have no idea where to even start.

Do you have any tips on everything animation? Can i do it on photoshop? Which programs are the best? You get the gist

[Anonymous No.1898753]

>>1898736
For super noobs like you I suggest a super simple program so you don't get scared off or have to learn much.

http://www.flat2d.com/easytoon/Downloading.aspx

Your first exercise is animating a bouncing ball.

[Anonymous No.1898763]

>>1898753
I'd really like something with a bit more advanced than that, taking the time to learn a program is nothing scary to me. I just wanna check it out, and if i find it cool, i'll do the basics like guy walking, bouncing ball, sack falling to the floor, guy lifting weights, guy pulling something heavy and so on.

I'd really like to use photoshop, but i've heard that it's not really ideal at all, and tedious as fuck, true?

[Anonymous No.1898770]

>>1898257
Do you hang out on any IRC channels? Also, are you programming this on your own?

[Anonymous No.1898781]

>>1898763
Yeah photoshop is not ideal for animation but use it if you want. Flash is better, but If you're just starting out you don't really need any more than the basic tools anyway. Easytoon is all you need the only thing holding you back is skill. pic related was made in easytoon.

[Anonymous No.1898785]

>>1898781
As an animation, thats just awesome, but i just hate the look of the lines. Hurts my eyes.

Flash can't be that hard? Looks pretty basic and easy as a program

[Anonymous No.1898792]

>>1898785
Yeah It's not bad. It's what I use.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFDVybD0QAs&list=UUPTCR7jiB9QP1HZrya3N9pw

Start by going through these tutorials to understand the basics for frame by frame animation. (Most of the flash tutorials out there are focused tweening crap.)

[Anonymous No.1898805]

>>1898792
Thanks man

[Anonymous No.1898824]

>>1896975
Don't let that get you down though. Nice work!

[Anonymous No.1898843]

>>1896975
That's pretty nice work, Anon. I'd suggest working on proportions of the body and just general anatomy for a while, that would help you alot.

Keep at it!

[Anonymous No.1899025]

>>1896987
Dude youre doing good. Keep it up, the motion is great

[Anonymous No.1899152]

>>1897860
Make a blog so I can see more of your stuff.

[Anonymous No.1899208]

>>1898236
Needs more swing/rotation in the upper torso while running, I'd say. The shoulders look more like they're rotating around the body freely than like they're directing the weight of it.

Also those feet are coming awfully high off the ground for a very inefficient cycle. Too much up and down.

Not a fan of running in stilettos, btw.

[Anonymous No.1899262]

>>1897860
you're too good for this board

[Anonymous No.1899265]

>>1898257
>similar to rayman legends
with that stiffness in the character animation? bruh, I've been there, replicating the synthesis of animation and control of the new rayman games is fucking hard.

[Anonymous No.1899287]

>>1899265
rayman isnt hand animated, so it'd be impossible to 100% replicate spline movement

they probably meant gameplay-wise

[Anonymous No.1899304]

>>1898770
None as of yet. I'll get more involved once I have at least half the animations done. (Need jump, fall, land, skid,crouch,crawl, guard-idle,guard-walk/run,etc)

> Also, are you programming this on your own
That was the plan. I feel pretty comfortable using C#. Physics for the engine is mostly done. Once the core mechanic is fleshed out, it'll be smooth sailing. Of course I could always use help, but I'd hate to ask for that when im still in such an early phase

>>1899208
>swing/rotation
you're saying the arm swinging should be more dramatic?

> Too much up and down
since its a bunny-like creature, i wanted more bounce to the run, due to the walk cycle being pretty bland.

>Not a fan of running in stilettos
no sane person would go adventuring in heels, but i really like the design of those type of footwear

>>1899265
Yeah I mostly meant the gameplay elements, but it'll still be its own thing

[Anonymous No.1899319]

[Anonymous No.1899400]

>>1899287
dope walk, very cute

[Anonymous No.1899402]

>>1899304
>Once the core mechanic is fleshed out, it'll be smooth sailing.

this is adorable

[Anonymous No.1899776]

What should I work on?
Currently I'm wondering how to make things non-wobbly w/o making them seem stiff.
Any pointers would be nice, really.

[Anonymous No.1900043]

>>1899776
I think you need better spacing as well as good timing for things

[Anonymous No.1900201]

>>1899319
Micheal Bay would be proud

[Anonymous No.1900269]

>>1899262
nah, you're just too bad and as a result too easily impressed.

[Anonymous No.1900282]

>>1900043
Um the second time is intended to be faster but maybe I messed it up if it doesn't look right. How does that one look?

[Anonymous No.1900291]

>>1900282
what are the hands doing?

[Anonymous No.1900296]

>>1900291
Groping invisible breasts, then quickly going face down when caught.

[Anonymous No.1900300]

>>1900291
Errr, clenching and then turning around? What does it look like? I don't think it's that abstruse.

[Anonymous No.1900562]

[Anonymous No.1900575]

>>1900562
it looks like he's limping, make sure you have an equal amount of frames on each step he takes.

[Anonymous No.1900704]

>>1900575

[Anonymous No.1900716]

>>1900704
The head/body barely moves up and down. It should go up when the leg is directly underneath and down when they are apart.
I can see that you can draw well but your animation isn't so great. You should read through the animator's survival kit and study up on how things move.

[Anonymous No.1900746]

>>1900716
Thanks, will do

[Anonymous No.1900882]

>>1900562
>>1900704

I know that this is probably because you have really good time, and are unsure about your own skill. But please, knock off all the measurements. It's nice if you want to have robotic and consistent form, but that should come by itself, as long as you have your anatomy down. Doing things as thoroughly as this is not really an option if you ever were to pursue this as a profession.

It also has some downsides. Your animation will become very limited and "realistic", but not in a good sense. It won't look to real, because of the strict measurements. Having constricted forms like that will also make fast and flashy movements seem really dull, and the animation will be dull to look at. But it's not like I'm saying that you should stop doing it. If you want to animate mecha, I think doing stuff like that is great.

[Anonymous No.1901262]

>>1900882
you're right, I do realise early on it's a problem but I'm not confident to do it differently. I'll work on trying other ways

[Anonymous No.1901269]

i like this thread

lets contribute

[Anonymous No.1901310]

>>1896743
dunno who you are but you have serious potential, I tell ya wh-uat

[Anonymous No.1901312]

>>1901269
>>1898236
really like these

[Anonymous No.1901313]

>>1896951
yeah looks like her legs below the knee kind of shrink at the end

[Anonymous No.1901318]

>>1901269
I feel like there should be an entirely separate board just for animation. I can only dream<3

[Anonymous No.1901437]

>>1901269
Hey i really love this, how did you go about making it? Got any tips for a noob like myself?

[Anonymous No.1901438]

>>1901318
This needs to happen!

[Anonymous No.1901458]

>>1900704
Are you the same person that does these?

[Anonymous No.1901497]

>>1901458
source?

[Anonymous No.1901545]

>>1901458
is this a specific approach to figure drawing?
is it based on a book?

[Anonymous No.1901651]

>>1901437
i'm a beginner myself

right now i just go from one image to the next, and constantly flip back and forth making sure the images "connect"

also, it helps to to just lay down just simple lines or shapes to get a foothold of what the next frame will look like

[Anonymous No.1901902]

>>1901651
What software?

[Anonymous No.1901965]

How do I git gud?

[Anonymous No.1901973]

>>1901965
Use a reference, I dont even know what he's supposed to be doing

[Anonymous No.1901975]

>>1901965
Take more time over it, i can tell you rushed this. Try to keep your forms consistent. Constantly flick back and forth between frames checking for any mistakes.

[Anonymous No.1901982]

>>1901973
i-it was supposed to be an uppercut.
>>1901975
yeah I did it in like 10 minutes.

[Anonymous No.1901991]

lewd

[Anonymous No.1902123]

>>1901902
TVPaint

[Anonymous No.1902125]

>>1901965
I know its just sketchy, but try to control the proportions of the shapes, stretching for certain effects is okay, but you have to be able to keep the accurate sizes the way they should be, before modifying it without it looking too wobbly or weird

[Anonymous No.1902206]

>>1902125
any tips on doing that?

[Anonymous No.1902224]

>>1902206
traditional drawing techniques, measuring, it sounds cheesey but the books from the sticky guide help with all that stuff

[Anonymous No.1902331]

>>1901965
yeah use reference or act it out yourself.

You just kinda approached the movement with the thought process of "in an uppercut you punch upwards" and you just kinda did that, but that's not really how an uppercut works.

there's the stance, right? That ain't a fighting stance. there's twisting of the torso in the movement as well. you gotta take all things into consideration.

[Anonymous No.1902332]

>>1897690
It is literally 35 frames for these 5 Seconds.So yea like the other anon says. Slow.For many many hours depending on how detailed you want it to look. Animation is suffering.

[Anonymous No.1902338]

>>1898781
Damn, how long did this take you ?
Must be over 1000 frames.
Did you ever color this in ?
Did you lose your sanity ?

[Anonymous No.1902345]

>>1898781
Fuark that's amazing!

[Anonymous No.1902346]

>>1902338
that's a very early animation of Bahi JD

[Anonymous No.1902394]

>>1902338
Bahi said he did it over his summer break or something.

[Anonymous No.1902705]

>>1901269
Nice style! Do you have a gallery/tumblr/deviantart/etc?

[Anonymous No.1902717]

Any tips on how to improve my weird simplistic animations? I think I'm just no cut out to animate cause I'm far too lazy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzPWES2YgHc

[Anonymous No.1902731]

It would be cool if these get translated
http://www.pa-works.jp/tobibako/index.html
http://www.gainax.co.jp/staff-info/0001.html

[Anonymous No.1902743]

>>1902731
Nice find, it looks like they're talking about sakuga and giving advice. I would be forever grateful if an anon could translate a few of these, or at least give us a summary of what they're saying. Google translate is retarded with Japanese.
http://www.pa-works.jp/tobibako/index.html

[Anonymous No.1902746]

>>1898257
You mean H-Rayman

[Anonymous No.1902748]

>>1901991
Not erotic at all. And even if it's finished you will always notice that these are just figueres with clothings. Must be hard to be a porn artist when you can't fap to your work.

[Anonymous No.1902754]

>>1902748
>Not erotic at all
>liessss

[Anonymous No.1902776]

>>1902754
Sorry. Some people don't have low standards.

[Anonymous No.1902787]

>>1902776
*tips manora*

[Anonymous No.1902789]

>>1902776
Some people are just assholes who want to shit on everyone. That, or you're a female and your opinion doesn't mean shit in this specific scenario.

[Anonymous No.1903138]

Torrent when?

[Anonymous No.1903144]

>>1901318
Please moot. I don't care if it gets slower than /po/.

[Anonymous No.1903279]

Quick thing done in class. I'm currently working on a 1 minute thing for my exams, and it's gotten boring, so I had to do something else for a while.

[Anonymous No.1903293]

>>1901991
I liked the fungi on the shaft

[Anonymous No.1903299]

>>1903279
nice.

for anyone interested in superb animation, i can really recommend the movie "redline".

[Anonymous No.1903627]

What do you guys think of this youtube animator?

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbrJOQ6Yw2HQTChPQZCPfAw

I think his stuff is really cute and funny. He's been posting videos regularly for a couple of years and is still really unknown.

Also I'm not this guy, I've been subbed to him for months and it breaks my heart that all his work goes unnoticed.

[Anonymous No.1903696]

>>1903627
>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbrJOQ6Yw2HQTChPQZCPfAw
You have to have a real specific taste to enjoy this content in the slightest

[Anonymous No.1903706]

>>1903627
It's kind of neat in a quirky way(yeah yeah 'lel so quirky xd hipsters lel, I know.).

But all of his videos are drawn in a super simplistic way, there's minimal animation and his videos are 20 seconds long. There's not a lot of work going to waste here.

[Anonymous No.1903708]

>>1903696
Really? What you dislike about them?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoRP0WRebnk&list=UUbrJOQ6Yw2HQTChPQZCPfAw

[Anonymous No.1903714]

>>1903706
Yeah but his characterisation is real good and comical. Treat it like a simplistic webcomic, but animated.

[Anonymous No.1903716]

>>1903627
I've clicked on 5 videos and none of them are animated

[Anonymous No.1903717]

>>1903716
the older ones are

[Anonymous No.1904012]

>>1903708
>Author trying to get help with his mediocre cartoons