Alternative Art/Stylization General

[Anonymous No.1876180]

Anime/Manga/Cartooning Thread

"Success comes only with personal effort, aided by whatever knowledge the individual can apply along with the effort. If this were not true, we would be able to do anything in the world simply by reading books."

Previous Thread: >>1872230

A general message to aspiring artists: "Lack of knowledge can be greater torture than the effort of acquiring it. When all is said and done, nature is your best instructor."

Submit your drawings, receive feedback or critique others! Share your knowledge and remember to thank those who've critiqued or red-lined your drawings. Most importantly, have fun.

This thread is meant for artists who might want to try to make stylized work in-between their studies. It is strongly recommended that you use this thread in conjunction with learning the elements and fundamentals of art. You can also discuss the visual elements of various professional artists as well if you keep it relatively articulate and civil.

>Fresh off the boat? Read the fucking sticky!
http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-draw-learn

https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
>Proko
http://www.proko.com/videos/
>Ctrl+Paint
http://ctrlpaint.com/
>Hitokaku Index
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~zm5s-nkmr/
>0033
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=59317
>List of active livestreams
http://livestreamstatuslist.appspot.com/
>fellowBro's books
http://mediafire.com/?i44dwzkf9j9n8
>Tutorial/Reference Collection
http://pinterest.com/characterdesigh/
>Japanese Animu Tutorials
http://iradukai.com/
>Figures
http://reference.sketchdaily.net/

Remember the words of our good friend Glen Vilppu: “No rules, just tools.”

/ic/: "Show me your drawing faggot"

[Anonymous No.1876202]

>>1876180
thanks for not using firez shit, i don't have to hide thread anymore because of that

[Anonymous No.1876228]

>>1876202
It was an edit and much worse than the original.

[Anonymous No.1876232]

>>1876180
I liked it when OP was posting anon's artwork from the previous thread. It gave you a glimmer of hope that you might just make it into the OP if you were good enough

[Anonymous No.1876234]

I don't think I posted the coloured version of this

[Anonymous No.1876238]

Commission for a fanfic writer

[Anonymous No.1876243]

made this just today. i drew it on a cardboard spacer that came in a package of underwear. im interested in adding some color to it but im afraid since i dont have any real practice in colored pencils. maybe i'll come back to it in a couple months.

[Anonymous No.1876254]

>>1876232
It's still form /ic/

[Anonymous No.1876256]

I think you need to push your values stronger in the legs.

[Anonymous No.1876258]

>>1876256
for
>>1876238
I'm an idiot

[Anonymous No.1876261]

>>1876234
is she holding Dominators from psycho pass?

[Anonymous No.1876267]

>>1876258
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind next time.

[Anonymous No.1876268]

>>1876243

Troll post?

[Anonymous No.1876296]

>>1876238
Nice.
How do you get that grainy texture on your brush?

[Anonymous No.1876310]

Tried emulating Hartman

[Anonymous No.1876312]

Ahhh. Not sure what's going wrong

[Anonymous No.1876340]

Started on a wizardess costume, I drew a template underneath so I could make more.

[Anonymous No.1876345]

>>1876340
Is that a female? The face comes across as masculine.

[Anonymous No.1876347]

>>1876296
Thanks!

I've accumulated them, one is Drew Green's signature brush.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/eaj1qdp8si283bc/Brushies.abr?dl=0

[Anonymous No.1876352]

>>1876340
This
>>1876345

If you soften her features it will look much more feminine

[Anonymous No.1876357]

>>1876352
>adding sculptural elements to paintings
Truly the photobash of ages past.

[Anonymous No.1876421]

>>1876310
love it, pls colour

[Anonymous No.1876447]

Drawing anime is like playing a four-chord song on the guitar; It's plain, generic, and only takes 20 minutes to learn.

[Anonymous No.1876449]

>>1876447
>I only listen to vidya OSTs and Aphex Twin

[Anonymous No.1876455]

>>1876310
legs on punk girl are too short

[Anonymous No.1876488]

This was my alt art for a cyberpunk orange lantern but i cant seem to get the image i want

[Anonymous No.1876525]

>>1876180
>merc_wip

[Anonymous No.1876541]

Didn't feel like fundies today, now I must suffer

Was going to draw a ryuko, but turned it into female vega instead. Boobs are hard. Takes me forever to ink shit now too...

That's right, no faces on anybody - saving that endeavor for next week

[Anonymous No.1876547]

can i be part of your thread too guys?

[Anonymous No.1876549]

>>1876547

wow this is great

[Anonymous No.1876550]

>>1876547
only if you learn to draw kawaii eyes.

[Anonymous No.1876554]

>>1876541
your style reminds me of sycras spiky style

do you sketch with pencil before you ink? or do you use fineliners from the get go?

post some pencil sketches

[Anonymous No.1876605]

>>1876541

>Mfw tableguy works harder than I do

I feel like shit.

[Anonymous No.1876618]

>>1876605
>tfw tableguy works as much as you do

:)

[Anonymous No.1876640]

>>1876180
I'm trying to achieve that cool realistic looking cartoon style. Too bad I suck at both realism and proper cartooning.

> oh god

[Anonymous No.1876644]

>>1876640

[Anonymous No.1876646]

>>1876640

blend it and clean the edges up more

[Anonymous No.1876648]

>>1876644
I wasn't on drugs when I drew her tough.

why does she look so ugly, god damn
Especially the thumbnail looks like she is a total hamface. I can't put my finger on it! is it the distance between ear and face, or the nose? Is the whole face too big?

[Anonymous No.1876651]

>>1876648
It's uncanny. Realistic lips and nose with those big eyes do not go well, either simplify the face or adjust the proportion of the eyes to fit the entirety of the face. I wasn't implying you're on drugs she just reminded me of that cat.

[Anonymous No.1876673]

>>1876640
Can you post an example of "that cool realistic looking cartoon style" so we might have an idea of what you're doing wrong

[Anonymous No.1876678]

>>1876648
that cat wasn't drawn on drugs though

[Anonymous No.1876682]

>>1876554
Just used a pilot fine liner for the left for a quick sketch. Penciled the right, then went over with a 0.1 next time I'll snap a picture of the pencil work

>>1876605
>>1876618
>mfw I overslept because I stayed up too late drawing
>mfw I have to drive to work now because I'm playing hooky tomorrow for Halloween
Don't overdo it anons - everything in moderation

[Anonymous No.1876705]

>>1876673
like this.
Cartoony and free, but it still looks like an actual three-dimensional object. Like something that could actually exist in this world.
It's my biggest goal to draw like this, but I still suck dicks and balls.

[Anonymous No.1876709]

>>1876705
Okay, you need to then do what >>1876651
says and make the face simpler. Much much simpler. Just look at the images you posted, there's nothing realistic about these character designs. They've just been shaded in a way that makes them look 3D.

[Anonymous No.1876711]

>>1876709
> shaded in a way that looks 3D
That's what I'm trying to do.

What do you mean, simpler? The design? Every kind of design can look cool if you shade it right I guess.
I did alter it a little to make it more cartoony and less uncanny valley.

[Anonymous No.1876712]

>>1876711
no you are trying to implement anatomy instead of simple shapes.

[Anonymous No.1876713]

>>1876640
The shading looks muddy. Smooth it up and make her nose have a less realistic shape. Love the shading on her headband.

[Anonymous No.1876727]

>>1876541
>>1876605
Too bad. ALL his drawings looks like childish 16 years old. There's no progress for him. He's doing something wrong.

[Anonymous No.1876730]

>>1876727
I think it's because he's referencing from animu directly either from another artist or screenshots off a show. Maybe he would benefit from getting real world references and learning how to stylize from a real figure.

[Anonymous No.1876742]

>>1876727
Ya I flipped through all my drawings yesterday, I only noticed 2 things that changed
>I got better drawing tools
>my torsos were freakishly long and now they are shorter
I was disappointed, gotta work smarter not harder

>>1876730
I have been referencing from shows recently. I was trying something out, but I'll try real stuff next (after I put in some time with faces). Always looking for study tips, the problem is I usually can only keep it up for a week before reverting back to guilty pleasure drawing.

[Anonymous No.1876745]

>>1876742
Okay now use what you have learned onto a real reference and see how much you've picked up. I strongly believe you can improve better this way by referencing off of real faces and people and stylizing them yourself as you will be problem solving stuff that have otherwise been solved from referencing animu directly.

This may also help develop your own thing.

[Anonymous No.1876749]

>>1876742
i foken told ya to study quality asian artworks but u keep on drawing from anime i swir to got.

[Anonymous No.1876752]

What to work on

[Anonymous No.1876754]

>>1876752
Fingers on her right hand look fat.

[Anonymous No.1876759]

>>1876754
How about now/anything else?

[Anonymous No.1876760]

>>1876759

[Anonymous No.1876764]

>>1876711
Those eyes are unfocused

>>1876488
Try a darker background. Like, pitch black. Get a strong and eye-catching contrast in there.

[Anonymous No.1876767]

>>1876760
What can I do about the nose, specifically? Trying to go for a more detailed nose or realistic one seems kind of weird, really

[Anonymous No.1876770]

>>1876711
>Every kind of design can look cool if you shade it right I guess.
Not all of them actually can.

If your character design is shit, has shit proportions etc. no amount of realistic shading will save you. The expression 'polishing a turd' comes to mind.

By simpler I mean lose all the unimportant detail and just keep the essentials. Give a really hard look to the harley quinn picture you posted earlier and how her face is stylised. Pay attention to the proportions as well as to the amount of anatomical detail (see how there's almost none). It's completely different from what you're trying to do here. You have too much anatomy and not cute enough proportions if you're trying to go for the same effect.

[Anonymous No.1876780]

>>1876767
You may fill in the shadow of a nostril since she is slightly looking up. The placement of this shadow has to be right, that right there depends on where the bottom of the ear is and how it lines up with the bottom of the nose.

[Anonymous No.1876808]

>>1876180
>that image

[Anonymous No.1876810]

>>1876808
oh boy.

[Anonymous No.1876814]

working still

[Anonymous No.1876817]

>>1876814
m-mikufag?

[Anonymous No.1876819]

>>1876814
>dat puffy vulva

[Anonymous No.1876821]

>>1876817

[Anonymous No.1876823]

>>1876817
no, but i like miku too.

[Anonymous No.1876848]

>>1876745
Cool thanks I'll give it a go

>>1876749
I just got a bunch of artist names from >>1874426 I wasn't sure who you were referring to earlier, if you have specific names let me know, and I'll check it out

[Anonymous No.1876855]

what would look more interesting previous one or this ?

[Anonymous No.1876857]

>>1876855
What's she doing with her hands? And why?

[Anonymous No.1876859]

>>1876855
previous one, that one just makes my eye move annoyingly all over the place.

>dildo :)

[Anonymous No.1876860]

>>1876857
shes imitating a dog or something. you know.

>>1876859
ok will use previous one

[Anonymous No.1876884]

>>1876310
dont go for the flat stuff he makes, but just like >>1876455 said otherwise bretty gud

[Anonymous No.1877035]

>>1876821
what happened to the one with the hand?

[Anonymous No.1877039]

>>1876347
useful thanks!

[Anonymous No.1877092]

>>1876742
Thing with improvement is that sometimes you see the results directly but at other times it's only much later that you realize how much you benefitted from something. That said, it's probably a good idea to change up your practice habits a bit if you feel like you're stagnating.

One thing that helped me a lot was to tackle areas I had trouble with one part at a time. If faces are hard for you maybe try practicing the individual features first and then try to put them together correctly. It's difficult to get the proportions right if you're still struggeling to draw the features themselves because you have to concentrate on too many things at once and begin to feel overwhelmed.
Not sure if that's the best way to go about it of course, but it worked for me.

[Anonymous No.1877098]

>>1876808
You do realize it is like the most basic stiff pose ever right? The fact that the pose is similar is pure coincidence.

[Anonymous No.1877115]

I dunno. Tried using nothing but colors for this, simulating markers and shit.

10 minutes in paint. Maybe finish when I dunno.

[Anonymous No.1877126]

>>1877115

[You're Mom No.1877134]

My pure imagination work still looks very silly.

pic related

I think I'm still symbol drawing just with slightly more symbols than when I began. Very slightly.

I will never achieve my dream of being a highly mediocre independent animator at this rate; I'm not sure if I don't draw the things I'm weakest at relentlessly like I know I'm supposed to out of sloth or fear or both. Either way I guess I need to stop being a pussy and be a real nigga like Duke Nukem or Merc_Wip. Anyone else hung up?

[Anonymous No.1877136]

>>1876640
looks a little like the art from spelunky hd.

[Anonymous No.1877149]

>>1877134

Definitely drawing symbols. More life drawing required!

[Anonymous No.1877175]

>>1877149
Isn't that shit expensive though? I'm nothin' but a po' nigga

[Anonymous No.1877224]

>>1877175

Use photos.

[Anonymous No.1877264]

>>1877175
You don't have to pay to draw from life.

[Anonymous No.1877475]

>>1877149
Isn't everything symbol drawing though? Unless you're copying life exactly? Like, it just gets into more complex symbols?

[Anonymous No.1877479]

>>1877475
That's just semantics; usually once someone knows how they're constructing the form and understands it in 3D space, it isn't considered "symbol drawing."

[Anonymous No.1877480]

>>1877475
Symbol drawing is what you think you see instead of drawing a form in space; maybe perspective will help you steer away from that. If you draw from life you should be drawing in perspective, you may fit objects inside a cube that is not limited to figures

[Anonymous No.1877482]

>>1877475
No, everything is using geometric forms. A symbol is a flat circle, a form is a sphere.

[Anonymous No.1877512]

>>1877482
no, you people have no idea about anything.

A symbol drawing is a drawing that shows symbolical representaton on a thing. Thru whole your life you see symbols that represent things. Cross is a hospital a fork and knife is a resteurant. You consume all those informations thru your life and when you finnaly want to learn to draw you use those symbols because thats all your visual library has.

[Anonymous No.1877541]

>>1877512

>Blind leading the blind

[Anonymous No.1877553]

>>1877541
He's right though, symbol drawing is drawing what you think a thing looks like and not what the thing actually looks like.

[Anonymous No.1877589]

>>1876234
All I can think of is an angry Rei here.

[Anonymous No.1877595]

>>1877175
No silly.
From life.

get some ol water bottles you drank from and set them up nicely with like a blanket or something.
An egg or a pot will do good as well.

[Anonymous No.1877613]

>>1877595
How will drawing bottles help me draw human beings?
Poorfag with no access to models here.

[Anonymous No.1877615]

>>1877613
just draw some bitches walking on the street homie

[Anonymous No.1877616]

>>1877613
1. You'll learn how to draw something
2. You'll learn how to observe the surface and form
3. The human body is composted of basic shapes, you master those and you''ll be able to draw anything

see Vilppu for more info.

[Anonymous No.1877628]

>>1877615
dem bitches walk too fast for me to draw em proper
then they get offended that the drawing aint good
>>1877616
aight

[Anonymous No.1877630]

>>1877628

go to a cafe or something and just sit there and draw people. most people aren't gonna notice or care. you'll get better at drawing people who move fast with time, training your eye takes you a lifetime.

[Anonymous No.1877637]

>>1877630
>go to a cafe or something and just sit there and draw people

bad idea, with how politically correct and sensitive people are nowadays just fucking search for pictures of people on the web and be a shut in instead of bumping into a stronk independent womyn who needs no man having her bitch fit and cry rape because she feels you stroking her with every line you lay on paper.

[Anonymous No.1877638]

>>1877637
Depends, if you're in a crowded area you can get by just fine.

I like to roam around my school and draw passerbys, I'm sure a few notice but they don't care.

[Anonymous No.1877649]

>>1877637

i've been doing this for years and nobody's given a shit. i live in brazil tho, might be cultural. I still think that like >>1877638 said, you can get by in a crowded area.

[Anonymous No.1877667]

>>1877649
I did it in Japan, Belgium and Korea.
Sometimes people start conversations (especially old folks), want to take a picture or ask if they can have a sketch. Never had a bad comment.

But man, old folks really keep you from drawing.
"You know,I have a cousin who does drawing too, his name is anon. He does painting though because his education is painting and he studied at ... and you should look him up, wait I'll take my card so you can write it down because our last name is the same because he is my cousin but his first name is anon, a-n-o-n and yeah, he draws just like you but he paints and you know there are people who are great painters like Rubens. Do you know Rubens? But you know who I like, I like----"
and there goes your drawing time.

[Anonymous No.1877688]

>>1877637
No one cares about you drawing, done it plenty of times.

[Anonymous No.1877689]

>>1877512
You are a fucking idiot. If someone wants to draw a head and uses a flat circle as representation because that's what he thinks a head looks like, he is using symbol drawing. If someone wants to draw a head and uses a 3 dimensional sphere to represent the cranium, then that is NOT symbol drawing, but using forms. No idea why some people like you are so fucking retarded that they can'T even understand something as simple as this. Symbol drawing has nothing whatsoever to do with thinking of crosses for hospitals or forks and knives as restaurants, that's dumb as shit.

[Anonymous No.1877720]

>>1877689
>If someone wants to draw a head and uses a 3 dimensional sphere to represent the cranium, then that is NOT symbol drawing, but using forms
>uses a 3 dimensional sphere
>3 dimensional
anon, i'm going to blow your fucking mind right now: your sketchbook and monitor are 2D surfaces. you cannot draw 3D drawings. all drawings are 2D, if something looks 3D it's just an illusion.
not that anon, btw.

[Anonymous No.1877728]

>>1877720
ayy lmao

[Anonymous No.1877748]

working on.

[Anonymous No.1877751]

>>1876488
the right leg is too short

[Anonymous No.1877757]

>>1876860
why do people like that? do they want to fuck animals or something?

[Anonymous No.1877769]

>>1877757

I dunno, I guess it's submissive and falls into that whole 'wanting women to just be fucktoys and not actual people' kinda vibe. Who cares, at some point you've got to realise it's pointless to question the shit that turns people on.

[Anonymous No.1877772]

>>1877748
torso too short, makes her look like a midget

[Anonymous No.1877774]

>>1877757
>>1877769
NTR pisses me off the most.

[Anonymous No.1877776]

>>1877774
Just imagine you're the guy getting to do the fucking

[Anonymous No.1877777]

>>1877637
Live in New Orleans son.
No crazy feminists live down here, and its a general ice breaker

[Anonymous No.1877778]

>>1877777
>77777

[Anonymous No.1877779]

>>1877772
i dont see it. Its 3 heads tall as it should be. maybe redline it cause i cant see it.

[Anonymous No.1877783]

>>1877776
Ehh...
I'll try.
I just love the 'power' aspect of porn, ya know?

[Anonymous No.1877785]

>>1877778
Ohh shit nigga

[Anonymous No.1877788]

>>1877779
maybe it's because you made torso too wide
proportions, m8
and don't give me that "she jus big boned", midgets have wider skeletons

[Anonymous No.1877791]

>>1877788
thanks for ref.

[Anonymous No.1877792]

>>1877788
need orig ref plox

[Anonymous No.1877802]

>>1877788
better ?

[Anonymous No.1877804]

>>1877802
You just drew over the same lines...
You need to actually make her thinner up top.

[Anonymous No.1877814]

>>1877804

[Anonymous No.1877920]

[Anonymous No.1877933]

>>1877920
anyone redline? Or advice on cloud shape?

[Anonymous No.1877938]

>>1877689
> If someone wants to draw a head and uses a 3 dimensional sphere to represent the cranium, then that is NOT symbol drawing
Depending on what you mean, not necessarily. Your usage of "symbol drawing" betrays what the actual meaning is in the sense of the words. Simply drawing a sphere can be just as symbolic as drawing a flat circle. Just as the head is not a flat circle, it is not a sphere either.

[Anonymous No.1877956]

>>1877933
>anyone redline?
her butt looks odd. both cheeks carry weight and thus should get pushed up by the thigh instead of just drooping and rounding forward like that

[Anonymous No.1877962]

>>1877920
>>1877956
also, her right calf is twisted too much to the right, they usually point in the same direction with the same faces.
You are showing the right side plane of the thigh but not the right side plane of the calf.

yes, calves have some rotation but not like this, at least not comforably

[Anonymous No.1877973]

>>1877962
>>1877956
Thank you, I'll keep working on it!

[Anonymous No.1877978]

May i get a critique? Wondering if the legs are correctly positioned before continuing. And any other helpful advice. Head may be too big and the left hand is wonky from what i can tell.

[Anonymous No.1877982]

>>1877978

arms are too short and face doesn't look like it's in proper perspective even by animu standards. eyes don't match.

[Anonymous No.1878025]

>>1877748
i think seeing your mistakes drawn by someone else helps you seem them better so thats why i included the outline from your original drawing as well as from the one i tried to edit

[Anonymous No.1878060]

[Anonymous No.1878130]

How's this?

[Anonymous No.1878138]

>>1878130
Its okay but watch out for her left hand and the inner side of her left leg

[Anonymous No.1878139]

>>1878130
nice for beginner
Head quite off.
The hair is too hight.

[Anonymous No.1878163]

>>1878130
why does her deltoid muscle end at her triceps?

[Anonymous No.1878172]

>>1878130
>That face
>on that body
what a shame

[Anonymous No.1878173]

>>1877978
Your contour lines on the left leg are like we're viewing them from above, not at waist-level viewpoint. The "hip" on that leg is too low, and too widely drawn for that angle.

[Anonymous No.1878180]

>>1878172
Are you ashamed that the face has that body or vice versa?

[Anonymous No.1878182]

>>1877978
Heads and its features have form even when simplified, being aware of this is important to drawing the features correctly. Example is how the eyes are a spheroid with a small hemisphere attached to it. Line work could also be improved to suggest form better. Also, the figure might improve with a more natural stance.

I try to demonstrate in the simple picture though I'm sorry if my skills can't match up.

[Anonymous No.1878186]

>>1878025
but you made her in diffrent perspective

[Anonymous No.1878187]

>>1878180
he either wants boobs or realistic face, either way he's a faggot.
your drawing looks good, but the neck is a tad too wide for animu.

[Anonymous No.1878344]

>>1877814
not the other guy but erase the lines you're not using anymore it's p hard to tell what's going on here.

[Anonymous No.1878387]

Tried designing some clothes.

[Anonymous No.1878399]

>>1878387
Too gaga-esque

[Anonymous No.1878400]

>>1878387
I like first and third

[Anonymous No.1878494]

>>1878387
I like the first 3, functional and stylish.
The others look kinda meh and don't share the same design sense of the first ones, last one is interesting though.

[Anonymous No.1878536]

not done yet. what do you think so far. I have mixed feeling about face.

can I finnaly upload something to my tumblr ? i want to sell porn commissions. Is this level sellable ?

[Anonymous No.1878571]

>>1878536

I could fap to it but I have very low standards. Face could use work, show some kind of emotion or something, also maybe have her look at the person in front, rather than straight at camera.

I'd have to see how you finish the picture off, but you could probably make some money selling commissions, but skill is only half the battle, it helps to build up a fan base, just draw some porn of some popular characters, try to pump them out at a good rate too, for some reason consistency is seen as a replacement for skill by many.

[Anonymous No.1878579]

>>1878536
i like it anon, just define more the eyes, maybe looking up
the bellybutton a bit higher, altough if you are making her chubby i guess its okay

[Anonymous No.1878650]

>>1877126
Atleast the Ears arent hide

[Anonymous No.1878659]

sketching something, hoping to finish it this time

>>1878536
its sellable to the right audience but I think it looks too western for the subject, but that could be a selling point who knows

[Anonymous No.1878804]

>>1878182
>>1878173
>>1877982
thanks a lot, will try again.

[Anonymous No.1878819]

>>1878399
And Gaga wears Haute couture
>implying she invented it

>>1878387
Neat
I wonder why when some people do fashion designs and choose to do chubbier models instead of the usual living coat hangers. Any reason here?

[Anonymous No.1878823]

>>1878187
Who are you to answer for me, kid.
The face is 2D whereas the body is 3D. Makes no sense.
i.e. >>1878657

[Anonymous No.1878827]

>>1878823
indeed you're not making sense

[Anonymous No.1878828]

>>1878823
i guess right, didn't i? choke on a dick, turbofag.

[Anonymous No.1878834]

>>1878828
You type like a retard, because what your wrote said "i either wish the boobs were supor animay sized or the face realistic".
I dont care for either. Just stick to one or the other - anime, or realistic.

[Anonymous No.1878854]

>>1878834
you type like one of those westerners who believe that art should be as close to reality as much as possible or a very graphical, symbolic saturday cartoon. well i'll let you know, kiddo, that there is a thing called anime made in great nippon and it's a mix of both. now go to sleep, it's past your bedtime.

[Anonymous No.1878856]

>>1878536
needs more kawaii, we want to see cute things being defiled. Also the lighting is inconsistent and I'm not being picky or anything it just really stands out and bugs me, even pre-art study if I saw that in a doujin it'd bug me.

[Anonymous No.1878898]

Hi. Still working on this

[Anonymous No.1878877]

>>1878854
Nigger. Fucking read.
I don't care for either style. Do you need all caps to read? You could do either ANIME or REALISM, I don't care. I care about both equally.

[Anonymous No.1878902]

>>1878877
>actually believes all art has to fall into neat little predefined stylistic boxes

hahaha wow remove yrself

[Anonymous No.1878904]

>>1878902
Too bad - it looks bad.

[FiRez !!tndrCZJHE+I No.1878961]

Reference: http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=39744307

[Anonymous No.1878962]

>>1878961
Cute as fuck

[Anonymous No.1878989]

Just got my tablet today. Wanna git gud. wanna know if my anatomy is okay, before I move on.

[Anonymous No.1879030]

>>1878989
What is he a ballerina? Pose looks annoyingly stupid.

[Anonymous No.1879055]

[Anonymous No.1879065]

>>1878961
super cute cant wait ;)

[Anonymous No.1879067]

>>1878961
>http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=39744307
>that ref
i knew it looked familiar. you're a fucking faggot, all the work is already done for you

[Anonymous No.1879103]

[Anonymous No.1879119]

>>1878989

It's not even close to OK. From the looks of it you're going completely off of memory and have never actually studied anatomy in your life. I've been there. You'd be amazed by how quickly you learn if you get some reference and look at it while you're drawing.

I just drew 100 feet and now I'm working on doing hundreds of hands. It's tedious but you've gotta put in your reps.

[Anonymous No.1879125]

>>1876711
Lower the ear a bit, but your main problem is the eyes. Too open, she looks surprised and they're a bit too big. The irises and pupils are not round but rather ellipses. The far eye is too small make them the same size, it doesn't really matter that much perspective wise. Study some eye expressions imo.

[Anonymous No.1879143]

>>1876340
features are starting to get a little misaligned

[Anonymous No.1879164]

>>1876808
That pose is so basic and common it could be a pure coincidence. It's clearly not traced either, so there's nothing to shout about, it's just a super-generic pose.

[Anonymous No.1879205]

>>1876711
>>1879125
I agree. I'd also suggest making the lips a tad bit larger and the neck a little further to really push the cartoon look.

When you go to do the hair, don't fall into the trap of making it all individual hairs, but simplify it into an appealing mass with a few strands if necessary.

The only other thing I had an issue with was her headband, which doesn't feel to me like it's 'wrapping' around her forehead.

Keep up the good work though, I like the colors you're using!

[Anonymous No.1879291]

>>1879055
dope, try animation

[Anonymous No.1879305]

>>1879067
>it's a study calm down

[Anonymous No.1879509]

>>1879291
That's the plan. The sketches were so I could get more or less comfortable drawing him for a fanart thing.

[Anonymous No.1879557]

Could someone do a redline please? And I would like to know if the stylization was successful

[Anonymous No.1879568]

>>1879305
>"it's a study"
>in the alternative art/stylization general
>not having your own style
try again faggot

[Anonymous No.1879583]

>>1879568
It's quite different though. The eyes for instance.

[Anonymous No.1879591]

>>1877638
I've tried drawing people passing by before, but they all go so fast that I can't draw them.

How do I do the thing?

[Anonymous No.1879606]

[Anonymous No.1879641]

>>1879606
that's tite

except it seems like the one horn bulges and the other doesn't

[Anonymous No.1879668]

>>1878898
Done. How did I do?

[Anonymous No.1879669]

>>1879668
I didn't include the fucking image. Christ

[Anonymous No.1879672]

>>1879669
>hair seems kind of flat on chest
>feels like you used lack of definition to cheat parts
>supercrisp headpiece, superchrisp hair, fuck-my-eyes blurry midriff
>dat top of head proportion

Overall it's great, love the tones, values etc.

[Anonymous No.1879679]

I went completely different style for this. Normally I never lineart nor cell shade. Tried going a little bit Moebiusish

[Anonymous No.1879715]

>>1879679
get gud at drawing your lines
use your whole arm/elbow if you're using your wrist. some lines look cheap
speaking of cheap, the clouds coming out of her rocket legs look bland and doesn't blend well with the rest of the pic

the anatomy looks off but I won't get into detail because I'm not an expert on it yet

[Anonymous No.1879833]

any glaring mistakes or

[Anonymous No.1879848]

>>1879669
It doesn't look very finished. Other than that it's nice, but like >>1879672 I can't help but wonder if you're using a lack of definition as a crutch.

[Anonymous No.1879850]

>>1879679
Nice colors!
But... how does she land? It seems to me like you didn't think the design through very well.

[Anonymous No.1879904]

>>1879833
i like it

[Anonymous No.1879907]

>>1879833

I think you should make the egg more gooey. The yoke being completely round is a big gripe of mine, considering how it's a liquid-y thing and gravity is at work here.

[Anonymous No.1879979]

>>1879833
>you dont have to tell me what happened but you need to eat this bowl of ramen

[Anonymous No.1879982]

do you guys know any artist that doesnt use lines?
having some problems here

[Anonymous No.1879991]

>>1878819
yeah, because those guys are amateurs. In a fashion design sketch only the fabric and clothing pattern needs to be shown, and it's better shown on skellington ladies. You can draw straw dolls too, nobody will give a shit, but don't focus on the figure, when doing a fashion design, focus on the fabric and how it's falling.

[Anonymous No.1879993]

>>1879833
the perspective is off. put the bowl lower, because right now it looks like a person is cracking an egg on to the table and a boy is sitting in front of a insanely large bowl.

[Anonymous No.1879996]

>>1879672
>>1879848
Like i kinda skipped on the values in certain areas? Alright, I can see that. thanks

[Anonymous No.1880000]

How do I even draw butts?

[Anonymous No.1880020]

>>1880000
study butts buttlord.

[Anonymous No.1880021]

>>1879833
it's very flat, lacks depth from contrast

and the hands are lit from the perspective but casting shadow down

[Anonymous No.1880029]

>>1879833
im hungry

[Anonymous No.1880033]

>>1878659
>>1878856
yeah I will try to make next ones more cute.

[Anonymous No.1880036]

>>1879979
>most highly underrated post of the year

[Anonymous No.1880038]

>>1879982
check out doyora (http://medicalwhiskey.com/?author=6)) and hjl (https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=hjl))

just to mention a few of the top of my mind

[Anonymous No.1880040]

>>1880033
Use a reference of Miku next time, that drawing looks almost as if it's a 3dpigu playing as Miku but not really Miku she needs to look more like Miku and stop pretending to be Miku; actually she just needs to be Miku all together study more Miku.

[Anonymous No.1880042]

>>1880040
would this style be better for it ? i didnt polish those faces yet but just showing for direction.

[Anonymous No.1880047]

>>1879982
it seems like you put in lines and tried to color over them, still wanting the lines to define your edges- as opposed to letting the color values define your edges

hope that makes sense

[Anonymous No.1880048]

>>1880042
It would help, one of the most prominent features aside from the nose are the eyes. It would also help if you simplified the nose further it would help deviate away from that 3dpigu.

[Anonymous No.1880049]

>>1880042
it looks so western

[Anonymous No.1880052]

>>1880048
>3dpigu
what means this 3dpigu?

[Anonymous No.1880054]

>>1880052

[Anonymous No.1880055]

>>1880049
how it looks western when i studied most of them form japaneese artist.

[Anonymous No.1880057]

>>1880055
because your lines lack diciplin.

[Anonymous No.1880058]

>>1880057
those are rought sketches...

[Anonymous No.1880059]

>>1880058
they still lack it

[Anonymous No.1880060]

>>1880059
:(

[Anonymous No.1880063]

>>1880060
It's not your fault

[Anonymous No.1880066]

>>1880063
how do i into line disciprinu ? i can do fairly clean lines at the inking phase but no sketchphase.

[Anonymous No.1880075]

Trying to composition here.

It's crude because I'm trying to get the base right before going into details.

>Main Focal is the giant, black orb.
>Secondary Focal is the guy in the cliff, looking at the cliff pointing towards the Orb.
>Background mountains form a line leading from man to orb.

Just found out I forgot the foreground. How should I go about it?

>Balance is fucked up because I want the giant ball to look as jarring as possible.

I know I'm fucking up somewhere and I'd like some pointers.

[Anonymous No.1880077]

>>1880033

I know it's still rough but I hope you're planning to soften the block in on Mike a lot because I don't think that rough texture works well.

[Anonymous No.1880078]

>>1879833
I think you should go crack a few eggs into a bowl and see what your hands do. Pay attention to how you grip the egg, how you pull to open it, how you pour out the contents, what the egg looks like as it falls, etc.

[Anonymous No.1880086]

>>1880075
I would make the sphere cut out of frame more to show massive size, crop it like that and add depth with clouds becoming smaller and smaller going into horizont. Also the spikes around the spehere can pint into the guy more. idk just sayin.

[Anonymous No.1880089]

>>1880077
actualy its finnished I wanted it to look rought. I could soften the texture but you mean like on her skin or everywhere on her ? Im trying to be like hjl.

[Anonymous No.1880090]

>>1880066
another anon here.
i get what he's saying, but i don't think it's a line issue. i think it's an detail issue.

basically, your sketches are sloppy. put a little more attention into the details.
with good artists, you can see a strong sense of expression even in crude sketches. but in your crude drawings, the expressions, the hair, lines etc just look derpy. they give off the "i'll refine it later" kind of vibe, and that's no good.

[Anonymous No.1880091]

>>1880086
KK. Thanks a lot.

Good pointers.

[Anonymous No.1880152]

hurr.

[Anonymous No.1880157]

>>1879715
I'm bad with lines, tried using Sai for them because I always use ps for stuff and ps is shit for lineart, but my friend showed me some tricks I'll try when I have more time.
>>1879850
Thanks!
Ehmm yeah it's a good question, it is not like I was thinking more than a few minutes about this drawing though =X

I will go deeper in this kind of style soon, especially the use of colors, and ehh better line art :P

[Anonymous No.1880182]

Redrawing an old piece http://i.imgur.com/akQWjct.jpg

Suggestions?

>inb4 furry

[Anonymous No.1880185]

>>1880152
Work a bit on your expression give it some feeling. Had to rush it don't want anyone to see this at work.

[Anonymous No.1880189]

>>1880185
> a mad teaparty

lmao

thanks man. Thats a way better expression. 8/10 would shake hands with you.

[Anonymous No.1880205]

Which one?

[Anonymous No.1880210]

>>1880205
butt is still messed up, or the pussy rather, in fact, both are still wonky.

[Anonymous No.1880217]

>>1880210
I appreciate the feedback, but I am referring to the comp. Which one is preferable?

[Anonymous No.1880236]

>>1880217
I dont know, neither look very interesting.
The one on the right has an neat fisheye distortion of the forest but the girl is unaffected.

http://youtu.be/5pbyagcLj8g
here, take a look at this clip for inspiration.

[Anonymous No.1880237]

>>1880236
That was pretty neat, thanks.

[Anonymous No.1880265]

>>1880217
the left

however those barbie legs need to be fixed. the stance is so unnatural

[Anonymous No.1880278]

>>1880236
flcl is great

it has a similar feel to scott pilgrim

[Anonymous No.1880280]

>>1878060
Face looks flat.
>>1879103
Not bad, but something about her left hand bothers me.

Any feedback for this one?

[Anonymous No.1880286]

>>1880278
Head lacks depth, not enough contrast, anatomy is all wrong, smoke does not work like that. Go back to the beginners thread you're not ready yet.

[Anonymous No.1880287]

>>1880286

[Anonymous No.1880294]

>>1880287
Have you ever seen what a real human face looks like? Sticky.

[Anonymous No.1880296]

>>1880286
nothing is wrong yer a fag.

[Anonymous No.1880313]

>>1880296
Not that Anon, but the eyes are too high just look at where the ears are. If she was looking slightly up the hairline wouldn't be where it is now they at least have a hint of it with the nose but they did a bad job with the eyes

[Anonymous No.1880317]

>>1880313
Low ears are very very common among anime art styles and "cute" things

[Anonymous No.1880318]

>>1880313
ffs it's stylized and its from an anime/manga. if you dont know: they were doing this intentionally. there is no fucking point in nitpicking this shit other than to be a fucking wise-ass. you may even have noticed that she looks fucking different in each of these gifs

try not being a 12 year old for once

[Anonymous No.1880334]

>>1880318

you're new is showing

[Anonymous No.1880356]

flcl critics: show your own art. youre probably scrubs

[Anonymous No.1880364]

>>1880294
>>1880286
holy shit, how much of a newfag are you?
do you even know what thread youre in?

[Anonymous No.1880367]

[Anonymous No.1880382]

>>1880367
that's not a very good octopus

also the vein on the glove bothers me- it's pointless and distracting from the overall tone of the piece

[Anonymous No.1880397]

>>1880313
>>1880317
>>1880318

[Anonymous No.1880427]

>>1877667
it's fun to listen to old people so it's okay!

[Anonymous No.1880443]

Crits?

[Anonymous No.1880450]

Did this a while ago...

Sorry if it comes out sideways. Still don't know why it does that.

[Anonymous No.1880453]

>>1880443
don't know where the focal point is, wasn't until the 2nd or 3rd time I looked I saw the tubes coming out her neck

are those lights/lit/bright? because the lighting is wrong if they're not cold red plastic

ears seem too low for the angle, either the ears should be higher or her chin up (which would match the nose more maybe)

the body has that warm grey which idk where it's coming from, but it goes back to idk where to focus

body lighting doesn't match the face lighting at all

one of the eye triangles is misaligned (her right cheek)

[Anonymous No.1880461]

>>1880443
Needs more value to bring out the focal point, right now it is very flat and kind of disorienting. There is no movement at all, and that makes it very unappealing to the eye. I would recommend making her hair be blowing upward in an air blast or something, and darkening her surroundings to make her more prevalent.

[Anonymous No.1880577]

>>1880334

[Anonymous No.1880613]

>>1880382
you're easily distracted, Patrick
and that is not an octopus

[Anonymous No.1880658]

>>1880367
clean and entertaining, best piece in this thread

even tried to do flat shadows?

[Anonymous No.1880666]

>>1880182
>http://i.imgur.com/akQWjct.jpg
FA?

It's hard to find furry that is plump and not hyper fat

could you draw her from more angles?

[Anonymous No.1880707]

>>1880658
thanks, yeah just finished it

[Anonymous No.1880818]

>>1880038
>>1880047
thanks a lot guys!

[Anonymous No.1880893]

A WIP, thoughts so far?

[Anonymous No.1880907]

>>1880707
That's real dope

[Anonymous No.1880934]

working on edge control. trying to stay away from relying on lineart so much.

[Anonymous No.1880936]

>>1880666
This is kinda old but is pretty close to how I imagine her http://i.imgur.com/Lo31T3s.jpg

My FA's mellowhen, if that's what you meant. Gotta love them plump ladies!

[Anonymous No.1880937]

>>1880934
I'd get some more reflected light on there, it feels flat to me. Greyscale it every so often and make sure your values are working on their own.

[Anonymous No.1880941]

Tried sketching an Orc-ish character for fun but can't get the expression right.

Any pointers?

Beginner by the way

[Anonymous No.1880944]

>>1880937
ya i got the colors on a separate layer while i refine the lighting. It does feel flat and i thought some bright highlights could fix it but now that you mention it I could brighten up the reflected light more. especially under his belly and arms. thanks for the advice.

[Anonymous No.1880947]

>>1880937
how would i even know if the values are working on their own~~ ?

[Anonymous No.1880951]

>>1880944
>>1880947
mmm. unrefined but seems like the a step in the right direction
I think i gotta add more light on the legs.

[Anonymous No.1880954]

>>1880818
superhot wats ur site????

[Anonymous No.1880959]

>>1880941
learn facial construction and how to set the features properly.

[Anonymous No.1880965]

>>1880951

[Anonymous No.1880972]

il post some of my stuff :)

[Anonymous No.1880975]

[Anonymous No.1880978]

[Anonymous No.1880980]

>>1880972
Inspired by The Reward?

[Anonymous No.1880982]

>>1880980
YES, Kenneth Ladekjær art style has been a massive influence on me, as well as some others

[Anonymous No.1881007]

What gets more chicks, drawing or making music?

What gets more money?

What gets more respect?

[Anonymous No.1881009]

>>1881007
Music by far.

[Anonymous No.1881010]

>>1880975
head too little

[Anonymous No.1881016]

>>1881007
It's too subjective to say. A good artist gets more than a poor one.

[Anonymous No.1881023]

>>1881007
ZUN does all 3. Get gud.

[Anonymous No.1881026]

[Anonymous No.1881032]

>>1880972
cant tell if you are shit or not.
no offence. i would have to see more to see how far your stylisation is intentional or just a way for you to avoid your artwork looking like shit.

[Anonymous No.1881035]

>>1881032
(cont.)

if you arent shit then take it as a compliment. if you are shit, well then i was just stating the obvious

[Anonymous No.1881044]

>>1881026
very nice.

[Anonymous No.1881076]

>>1881035
il post some more

[Anonymous No.1881078]

[Anonymous No.1881084]

>>1881076
Are you the guy that used to post in the /co/ Batman threads all the time with the Moebius-like free line drawings?

[Anonymous No.1881092]

>>1881084
nah sadly not

[Anonymous No.1881094]

>>1880941
Same guy here

Drawing my buddies character from WoW
Any advice is greatly appreciated

[Anonymous No.1881096]

>>1881094
Have another look at the hand, try work out the finger proportions you need for the hand pose

[Anonymous No.1881119]

>>1881092
Well I still like your work, especially the green guy with staff. Just thought your stuff was reminiscent of the guy I was talking about. So are these for a comic you're working on?

[Anonymous No.1881123]

>>1881119
Thanks i appreciate it, nah these are towards an animation id like to have made within the next few years, a comic would be awesome but i have a hard time doing anything but characters and simple backgrounds

[Anonymous No.1881130]

>>1881026
Beast
>>1881094
I like it. The horns especially. I think they can look really cool. when doing them you should decide on a single plane and follow it as your horn twist. I'll show you what i mean in a sec.

[Anonymous No.1881138]

Guys, I'm going to move to Tokyo and become the first nigger mangaka from his work! I can't draw yet, but I'm learning now!

[Anonymous No.1881167]

>>1881094
Here you go. It shows how much you try to think through forms, so I think if you improve at following your planes it benefit you. You can even take it to the next level and apply it to things like the pauldrons. The purple line is following the back contour of the horn, because I find it useful to know when that line will become the edge on the "other side" of the horn. There is a lot more space inside them than you're using! Hope I can help, keep it up.

I took tried to draw a Draenei for a friend a while back. Here it is if you'd like to see it.
http://i.imgur.com/qHZhz1p.jpg

[Anonymous No.1881169]

>>1881167
>You can even take it to the next level and apply it to things like the pauldrons.
>There is a lot more space inside them than you're using!

Sorry these were suppose to be together.

[Anonymous No.1881255]

>>1880965
This is pretty freakin helpful. thanks breh!

[Anonymous No.1881288]

How's the composition?

Girl is supposed to be 9 year old, so not very tall. Most problems probably come from that and the fact that it's an angled shot.

[Anonymous No.1881292]

>>1881288
1. Chickenscratch

2.I have no idea what's going on in this picture so I can't comment on anything else.

[Anonymous No.1881312]

>>1881288
terrible, start over

[Anonymous No.1881314]

Fingers crossed the thread isn't dead yet. How am I doing so far? I'm wondering particularly if their breasts pressed together looks convincing.

[Anonymous No.1881318]

does anyone know how to make this look less fucked

[Anonymous No.1881320]

>>1881314
both breasts should be pressed up, it doesn't read enough

>pic related, not mine

[Anonymous No.1881329]

>Obsess over getting better
>Spend years practicing fundamentals
>Eventually decide fuck it and work on muh style
>Now employed fulltime as an artist and can get commissions whenever I need them

I don't know what to believe anymore.

[Anonymous No.1881331]

This is something I did a little under a year ago, I just got illustrator on my personal computer so i'm finally able to draw again.

[Anonymous No.1881332]

>>1881320
Tried pushing it a little more. Am I heading in the right direction?

>>1881318
It's sort of a mish-mash of angles with some bogus anatomy. If you haven't popped over to /s/ for a pose reference, I recommend it. You should be able to find a few in a pose like that. If you need it, I can jury-rig a redline to give you a hand.

[Anonymous No.1881334]

>>1881329

[Anonymous No.1881341]

>>1881292
Some schmuck getting blown to pieces.

>>1881312

Completely forgot lines shouldn't lead out of picture.

Also moved girl a little bit more from center.

How's this?

[Anonymous No.1881343]

>>1881341
Looking at the changes, I've been thinking of moving the girl's face closer to the camera, because the explosion looks off as fuck where it is.

[Anonymous No.1881348]

>>1881332
that would be great if you could. I've been looking at stuff and redrawing it over and over.

[Anonymous No.1881372]

I need to work on my lines

[Anonymous No.1881379]

>>1881372
You can refine them later, as if you were inking, anyways go for it if you feel like it.
Cool doodles tho, where can I follow you?

[Anonymous No.1881380]

>>1881318

updated version.

[Anonymous No.1881388]

>>1881318
Like I said before, a lot of it is competing perspectives. You can see from my sketches that you used the back end from a side view and top end from a front angle. It's quick but I hope it helps, I've got to get back to my other work.

This is open to analysis by others, I was bad and didn't look for a ref first.

[Anonymous No.1881405]

>>1881388
ok. that makes it clear what I did wrong, I can see it now. thanks.

[Anonymous No.1881406]

>>1881076
nice.i guess you may not be shit

[Anonymous No.1881430]

>>1881130
The way she stands still looks rather unnatural, probably because her butt indicates that she's standing in a way that distributes her weight evenly between both legs while her legs look like she's leaning more onto the left one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scR4fIseBv8&list=UUUQTqWAaSzhAKRanOpes1nA

[Anonymous No.1881537]

>>1881332
sorry badly explained, tried to redline what I mean- the wine glass girl is actually pushing up bottle girl's boob.. it's more.. invasive that way; she is not just rubbing her own boob up she is pushing up bottle girl's.

[Anonymous No.1881540]

>>1881329
you started drawing furry porns?

[Anonymous No.1881544]

How does it look?

Girl looking over shoulder.

[Anonymous No.1881547]

New Thread:

>>1881546
>>1881546
>>1881546

[Anonymous No.1881627]

>>1881544
>no forehead
>poorly copied style
>awful photo angle

you best be trolling

[Anonymous No.1883621]

>>1881544

Wtf is this shit. I hope to god you are trolling here

but if you aren't go best thing I can say is go read the sticky.