Beginner Thread #19

[Anonymous No.1829964]

Because we should not have to make new threads or post in draw threads with our fundamental exercises. Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up. Practice makes Perfect!

A friendly reminder to do wrist exercises and take breaks as you practice to avoid getting CPS.
http://www.eatonhand.com/hw/ctexercise.htm http://wnyptot.com/articles/info_education/carpal_tunnel.pdf

Previous thread: >>1825385

[Anonymous No.1830048]

Latefag here, just spent an hour doing this.Can I get any feedback on it? I have a lot of trouble getting faces to look similar.

[Anonymous No.1830056]

>>1830048
Really bad symbol drawing going on here. Try flipping the picture upside down and drawing that. If the body is not instantly recognisable it makes it easier to draw what you see and not what you know.

[Anonymous No.1830059]

>>1830056
Gotcha, thanks anon

[Anonymous No.1830101]

>On one piece, draw vertical and horizontal lines 2" from the edge, again connecting the lines
at points on the diagonals. Cut out the inner rectangle. This is your “small viewfinder.”

if the horizontal lines are 1 inch from the edge of the paper then how will they intersect the vertical lines if they are also 1 inch away from the paper's edge? the vertical and horizontal hit the diagonal lines at different points

[Anonymous No.1830195]

I've recently been trying to adapt to the overhand grip for drawing and today I feel like I've started to get the hang of it and it really lends itself to drawing flow which is nice.

The problem is that I can only really use it on paper, when I switch to my graphic tablet it becomes almost impossible to use and a real pain.

Is there a more suitable way to hold a tablet pen? Or is the writing grip the only way?

[Anonymous No.1830199]

what do I need to fix?

[Anonymous No.1830200]

hey guys, how do i into proportions the right way? most of the times i fuck up my gesture drawings because of this.

[Anonymous No.1830204]

>>1830200
Can I add to this request?

When I'm doing gesture drawings I always end up running out of room once I reach the legs nearly every time, how can I prevent myself from making my drawings too long?

[Anonymous No.1830205]

>>1830204
>https://www.youtube.com/user/ProkoTV
>http://youtu.be/K_YSxO5ojls
Proko good for gesture stuff

[Anonymous No.1830206]

>>1830204
Dont make youre drawings too long.

Next question.

[Anonymous No.1830207]

>>1830204
Place two mark to signify the top and bottom of your image and create a basic gesture within those limits.

[Anonymous No.1830239]

>>1830207
This.
Create a bounding box around the pose.

[Anonymous No.1830252]

Doing some loomis, what to fix?

[Anonymous No.1830259]

>>1830252
This actually looks pretty solid for early loomis practice.
Keep up the good work.

[Anonymous No.1830266]

>>1830259
Thanks!

[Anonymous No.1830285]

>>1830252
It's shit.

[Anonymous No.1830299]

>>1830195
Have you tried holding it this way?

[Anonymous No.1830301]

>>1830285
>what to fix
inb4 another shitpost

[Anonymous No.1830313]

>>1830301
if your having issues seeing things try rotating it as you progress.
Hope this helps Anon!

[Anonymous No.1830321]

>>1830252
>>1830301
Well, it'd be nice if the first one wasn't horizontal but w/e it happens. First thing that pops up to me is how inconsistently heavy your lines are. Also your ears could really use some work. Other than that it's all just a lack of strong fundamentals, keep practicing and you'll get it.

[Anonymous No.1830354]

>>1830299
now that's just pants-on-head retarded.

[Anonymous No.1830374]

Didn't find the time to finish it until now, so here it is.

[Anonymous No.1830378]

Silhouette fag here

I tried. I'm sitll not done, just taking a break.

I know I know, values aren't as bright and wrong. I'll work on it.

Proportions aren't completely correct. Still difficult for me. I try to adjust things as I go.

[Anonymous No.1830387]

>>1830195
the point of this grip is to draw with the shoulder instead of wrist + allow for different strokes not easily attained with with a writing grip.

just dont make wrist movements and hold it like you were writing.

[Anonymous No.1830413]

>>1830378
The main problem I see is a lack of indication of the structures (clavicle, jugulars, traps) around the neck which makes it look like she has turner's syndrome. Also the jaw is way too square. Contours are nice for the most part.

[Anonymous No.1830479]

>>1830413
Yeah the parts around neck are horribad. I haven't completely gone over around the face and neck as much as other parts.

I'll fix it though. I appreciate the help.

[Anonymous No.1830525]

>>1830378
the angle on her right side needs to be more angled, not curved

[Anonymous No.1830642]

Study #6

>Do your best sexy bastard.

[Anonymous No.1830678]

PLEASE tell me what I need to do differently. Tear me a new one! I'm honestly ashamed for posting this.

[Anonymous No.1830689]

>>1830678

almost everything wrong with it is fixed by undestanding picture related.

notice the relation between hightlights and the light source.

[Anonymous No.1830886]

>>1830642
welp

[Anonymous No.1830909]

>>1830642
am i a concept artist yet?

[Anonymous No.1830942]

>>1830909
I LOVE THIS OMG
you can really see the filters and the tracing you did, oh that's so amazing whats your tumbler haha

[Anonymous No.1830952]

I'll repost this here, just in case that anon misses it in the dead thread.
>>1829985
pic related.
As for the lines, Scott Robertson and Peter Han both have videos where they talk about exercises to improve line quality.If you're a beginner, your aim should not be speed (which can result in scratchy lines), but accuracy. You'll get better lines if you practise.
Be concious about your mark-making and stop yourself if you notice you're scribbling when you don't want to be. Roughness is fine at the early stages, but be sure that you can produce clean lines in the end.

[Anonymous No.1830954]

>>1830642
This is gonne be a pain.

>>1830886
Nice, your values are a bit off though. Some shadows are missing ant the ref has more contrast. Push the analysis on one area (which will be your focal point).

[Anonymous No.1830957]

>>1830942
no filters or tracing. pure skill.

another study, all from scratch.

[Anonymous No.1830967]

>>1830957
this is actually interesting

[Anonymous No.1830971]

>>1830957
>I-I didn't trace it you guys!

[Anonymous No.1830975]

>>1830971
>implying it wasnt painfully obvious already

[Anonymous No.1830979]

>>1830642
This was nigh impossible for me, since I can't really into anything besides linework on a tablet (I'll start working through ctrl+paint in some time).
It was still a fun value exercise, though.
The procedure was as follows: plan out basic proportions with gesture, zoom out and fill in the shadow areas, shrink image down to 100px, do the rest of the values, upscale to 600px.

[Anonymous No.1830981]

>>1830979
Since this was my first time using values for anything more complex than the basic primitives, the idea was to get it to read well (~ish) without getting bogged down with the details.

[Anonymous No.1830992]

few sketches b4 work. finally warming up to villpu though i need to practice more. [Spherical forms]

[Anonymous No.1830994]

>>1830992
doechnic asdf

[Anonymous No.1830995]

>>1830971
of course, i'm that good. i guess my skill level is too high for you to believe that. by the way, i'm a professional concept artist, so everything i say is undisputed truth.

[Anonymous No.1830996]

>>1830994
whoops, typed captcha in wrong field

[Anonymous No.1831006]

Newfag here cant draw 3d and Im bad at shading

[Anonymous No.1831009]

>>1831006
sticky.

[Anonymous No.1831112]

Is posemaniacs good? I like it, but I've heard other people say they're too stiff.

>>1831006

That's why you look at references, ya numbnut!

[Anonymous No.1831118]

I'm starting to see paterns and shapes in poses, am I going on the right path?

[Anonymous No.1831166]

i did some texture/foliage study. some of it turned out a lot better than others. i think i did good on the palm, the tree in the back (havent got to the top yet), the rocks, and the two bushs. the brick wall and brick terrace are too similar and im not even sure how to do them. also the walkway is supposed to be pool decking which i messed up.

any feed back or tips?

[Anonymous No.1831168]

>>1831166
the grass is shit too, just noticed. and i did make it taller on purpose.

[Anonymous No.1831216]

Just finished the line work on this, what am I doing wrong?

[Anonymous No.1831219]

>>1831216
She is supposed to wear clothing! I just want to get the pose right

[Anonymous No.1831220]

>>1831216
head too big, eyes too big, hair what the fuck, hands too small, hips too small, learn to draw well proportioned figures(using reference, or life) before stylizing them and drawing from imagination

[Anonymous No.1831229]

Butt study

...with some brightness contrast adjustment in the end.

[Anonymous No.1831236]

>>1831216
The most helpful thing i can tell you right now is that fundamentally everything is wrong with this.
the proportions are absolutely horrifying. Her spine looks like it's broken, the arms look like spatulas, the shoulders are uneven and beyond too square, the tits dont look like tits they look life tennis balls (breats arent entirely circular from any angle unless they're fake), and the crotch is too low
don't give up on drawing though, there's still hope.
study anatomy man. study it hard and study it often. that's the best possible thing you can do right now.

[Anonymous No.1831248]

>>1830056
really good symbol drawing imo

it doesn't look like the pic but it still looks like a good comic book girl

[Anonymous No.1831254]

>>1831229

Studying from shitty artists?

Pleb.

[Anonymous No.1831260]

>>1830979
It looks accurate, you could push the value on your shadow a little more.
However that's only the very first step of the study.

[Anonymous No.1831265]

I am new. This is my first exercise and drawing in a couple of years. I read the sticky and went through the couple of exercise books and i found it very vague although I tried a couple. It turned out i managed to draw my hands fairly well once I was through with the three exercises I have so far done. Where can I go from this? I have tried to draw 3D objects but it is a whole new way of seeing things compared to even just my hand. Should I just try to make the best out of how I see it, or are there exercises to help me skip trial and error?

[Anonymous No.1831269]

>>1831260
Thanks for the feedback! Looking at it again, I'm starting to see so many mistakes. Dat indented left boob...
>However that's only the very first step of the study.
See, that's the thing. I have little to no idea of how to approach this kind of study. If I were to continue, would I just focus on progressively smaller patches of value?

[Anonymous No.1831272]

>>1831265
>skip trial and error
Art is basically trial and error. Go through the recommended list, doing all of the exercises, while focusing on applying the knowledge that the books\videos are trying to give to you.
There's no short-cut that to cheat your way out of practising.

[Anonymous No.1831277]

>>1830642
I wonder if this got the sculpture any tail?

[Anonymous No.1831279]

early wip

new tablet fag from last thread here

[Anonymous No.1831297]

It didn't turn out as bad as I thought, but I don't know what will happen with the rest of it

[Anonymous No.1831314]

It occurred to me when I was about done that half-assed values are probably a lot worse for my improvement than just not including them whatsoever and focusing on the line work, if I'm not going to flesh them out. I am indeed more worried about getting the proportions accurate first, so sorry about that.

I understand the chicken scratch is bad, I'm working on it. Frequently it seem hard to get the line I want without making a thick, ugly line and erasing to where I want. Is there any trick to making a good line first try, or is it all down to practice?

[Anonymous No.1831315]

Can't find the photo I used, but yeah

[Anonymous No.1831326]

>>1831279

lots of little fixes

[Anonymous No.1831329]

the lighting is all weird in this picture

[Anonymous No.1831334]

He looks way too sad for me.

>yiff in hell

It's for a friend.

[Anonymous No.1831336]

>>1831229
Don't study other artists' art. Study reference photos so that you learn to draw reality. Then after you have that down, you can feel free to make things as exaggerated and sexy as you want.

[Anonymous No.1831342]

>>1831329
>front & back lighting
>weird

[Anonymous No.1831352]

>>1831342
yes, anything other than rembrandt is wierd

[Anonymous No.1831355]

>>1831336
when will you learn??

[Anonymous No.1831358]

>>1831334
Thats really bad man.

[Anonymous No.1831363]

>>1831334
>>1831358

It is, but that's not helpful.

Check out the sticky, man. You're symbol drawing to the max, you need to get a good idea of human and animal form before you can start actually mixing their anatomy, and the perspective is *really* off.

Work on them fundamentals, check the sticky and do what it says.

[Anonymous No.1831374]

>>1831336
>study photos so you can learn to draw reality

god i fucking hate you sometimes /ic/

[Anonymous No.1831377]

>>1831374
I think there's an inherent assumption that leaving your house is off-limits here.

[Anonymous No.1831378]

>>1831358
I'm not particularly proud of that one. lol


>>1831363

Thanks, mate, I appreciate your attention.

[Anonymous No.1831379]

>>1830952
this actualy helps alot, was having trouble with the way her body was facing and gave up, I'll give it another go and concider your advice.

[Anonymous No.1831380]

Kkuem studies.

[Anonymous No.1831432]

>>1830642
here's mine still wip.

[Anonymous No.1831452]

>>1831297
So... here it is

[noko No.1831457]

quick study of portrait since im pretty terrible at drawing side faces. also trying out some new hair brushes.

[Anonymous No.1831508]

How do I draw attractive (or even plausible) heads from the bottom angle? Fuck!!! Also, critique what anatomy you can see (sorry for blurriness)

[Anonymous No.1831514]

>>1831508

[Anonymous No.1831530]

random baseball thing. sort of drunk. etc.

[Anonymous No.1831535]

I've been trying to practice drawing gestures recently but I can't help but feel like I am doing something wrong. The top sheet are gestures I did in 30-45 seconds and the bottom sheet are gestures I did in 2 minutes. Can someone comment on it before I go any further?

[Anonymous No.1831538]

>>1831535
Stop drawing wobbly contours, or contours at all. The gesture should capture the motion of the figure, or the flow of the major masses. Think of it like capturing the figure in as few simple curves (C curves and S curves) as possible, with straights where absolutely needed. If any of your lines are wobbly, or have bumps, then something is going wrong.

There should also be a sense of structure to an extent. Remember that you're drawing figures with mass, not wobbly playdough men that can't hold themselves up.

Watch through the Proko gesture videos again, and go through the material in Vilppu and Hampton if you haven't already.

[Anonymous No.1831557]

>>1831538
I tried again after rewatching Proko's videos. I don't really have Vilppu and Hampton's readily available so Proko is the only thing I can go off of. Hopefully this attempt is good or at least better than my last one.

I've been wondering about the gesture. Is the gesture going along the motion of the skeleton or the motion of the outline of the figure? Hopefully that question makes sense because I'm really, really new to this. I ask this because my first try in >>1831535 is where I focus a skeleton with motion while my latest attempt is where I focused on the motion of the outline of the figure.

[Anonymous No.1831564]

>>1831557
>Is the gesture going along the motion of the skeleton or the motion of the outline of the figure?
The skeleton. The spine, the major masses.

The outline, the contours of the figure are a result of the movements of the underlying bones and muscles, so it should make sense to focus on the skeleton.
Vilppu and Hampton are your friends, anon.

[Anonymous No.1831566]

>>1831564
I'll see what I can do about getting Hampton and Vilppu's work. One more quick question though since I don't have the material yet, what do you mean by major masses?

[Anonymous No.1831567]

>>1829964
How do I know when is the best time to go practice?

I was thinking of alternating between Drawing With the Right Side of Your Brain, Fun with a Pencil, and drawing for fun.

I've done a few of the first exercises in the first book, and they bore me to death. I'm really interested in drawing my friend's characters instead.

How do I know when to go back to a book or not? Also should I be trying to alternate between books, or jut grit and bear it with one?

[Anonymous No.1831568]

>>1831557
>Is the gesture going along the motion of the skeleton or the motion of the outline of the figure?
Neither and both. The skeleton is too stiff and rigid to properly convey gesture (except the spine). You're also not aiming to copy the outline of the figure. What you are aiming to capture does relate to both in some ways. It's somewhat like taking an 'average' of the figure primarily along the line of action.

Download pdfs of Vilppu's and Hampton's books. It's important to see some of the many different ways of handling gesture before you can get a solid understanding of it. Proko's approach on it's own isn't too useful, but becomes more useful when it's one of many different ways of thinking about gesture.

[Anonymous No.1831571]

>All this talk of gesture
>Not one mention of based Michael D Mattesi's book Force

[Anonymous No.1831572]

>>1831566

>>1831564 here.
>>1831568 explained it better than I did. When I said skeleton, I didn't mean each and every bone, but thinking of the spine usually helps.

>What do you mean by major masses?
The head, the ribcage, the pelvis.

[Anonymous No.1831575]

>>1831568
if i wonder if that guys just got a shitty wiggly line or his drivers were messed up

[Anonymous No.1831577]

what I got so far... tough one this fucker.

[Anonymous No.1831581]

Hey, I've just started working through the exercises in Scott Robertson's 'How to Draw Objects and Environments'. When drawing straight lines and curves through defined points, my fat hand gets in the way and I can't see the point that I'm drawing to (using a tripod grip). Am I doing it wrong?

[Anonymous No.1831592]

Ughhh i'm relatively new to humans. Top faces are just a character I made up to doodle, bottom one is 'Kvothe' from a book I read. Used to do skull studies etc. So I think I've got a good feel for bone structure (even though these ones in particular are just cartoony). Any critique I can use?

Starting on bodies soon.

[Anonymous No.1831710]

So I started "Drawing with the right side of brain" And this is my first attempt to advanced contour drawing. I must say I am pretty disappointed. Dunno what I was hoping for tho. An piece of advice from fellow anons? Would appreciate that.

[Anonymous No.1831712]

>>1831577
im almost tempted to do a quick study to show you ma process but it's late

anyway look at the body parts compared to each other; the shoulders are less wide than the hips, you made yours almost the same like a block of macerated swiss cheese. double check ur vaaaloos becuz nigga dat stomach be whiter than a black ass cracka

[Anonymous No.1831714]

[Anonymous No.1831758]

>>1831710
That's alright anon. The progress you'll make during the first two months will be huge if you work properly.
You just have to practice everyday for a few hours.
Cocerning your drawing, your lines aren't confident yet. I don't know If you've learned how to hold your pencil, check proko/vilppu for that and try to get used to it. Also don't smudge, ever. Use cross hatching.

[Anonymous No.1831900]

I think this turned out ok, head on is easier.

[Anonymous No.1831908]

>>1831900
Take a 10-minute break, go away from the screen. Come back & flip the canvas.
Your eyes are symbols, the shape of the face is wrong, the lips and the nose are off.

[Anonymous No.1831916]

>>1831336
>>1831374
So much bad advice being thrown around here

[Anonymous No.1831918]

>>1830642
reporting in

also, im >>1831166 does /ic/ not do textures or some shit?

all feedback is appreciated

[Anonymous No.1831929]

>>1830954
Thanks, managed to find some time to fix it a little bit, don't think i will finish it though.

[Anonymous No.1831943]

The chicken scratch is bad, I know, I'm working on it. Right now I'm mostly focused on improving my ability to just draw accurate form and proportions, though, and working on my line quality at the same time is a bit much.

[Anonymous No.1831945]

>>1831943

I fucked up the negative space between the arms at the last minute, dammit.

[Anonymous No.1831949]

>>1831943
shes fat and the rear leg can come forward a bit

[Anonymous No.1831967]

>>1830689
Thanks, man.

[Anonymous No.1832022]

Doing some more loomis today, thinking about moving on to gestures today.

[Anonymous No.1832031]

>>1832022
This looks solid, sans the wonky eyes. How about some more extreme angles\tilts?

[Anonymous No.1832042]

>>183203
>How about some more extreme angles/tilts?
Like this one?

[Anonymous No.1832056]

>>1830952
Thanks man.

[Anonymous No.1832120]

Quick question about the Picasso's Igor Stravinsky upside down exercise in the sticky.

I understand Stravinksy reference is upside down but do I also draw him upside down or do I draw him normally right side up?

[Anonymous No.1832123]

>>1832120
Did you even read the text?

[Anonymous No.1832124]

>>1830642
took me about 5 hours. very hard to achieve likeness. hopefully i got general forms right.

[Anonymous No.1832127]

pls tell me what to draw

i'll post results and you can rip me apart

i'm shit at drawing

[Anonymous No.1832128]

>>1832123
I did read it. It just says while holding Stravinsky upside down. Doesn't really say anything on how the it should be drawn on the paper it but it does state I have to copy it.

[Anonymous No.1832131]

Im shit, im not sure what to do. I could find pictures of animals and trace and play around with them until ive memorized it but i dont really want to copy someone else. Animals are not my thing but i would like to be able to draw at least what the drawfags on the other boards can do. Any time i try to draw people it ends up some kind of cringey highschool weeb shit.

[Anonymous No.1832133]

>>1832131
>Any time i try to draw people it ends up some kind of cringey highschool weeb shit

I know how you feel, I can draw a body pretty well but then faces just fuck me over.

faces are complex m8

[Anonymous No.1832136]

>>1832127
>Doesn't really say anything on how the it should be drawn

It does. Anyway, draw him upside down, obviously. The point is to draw exactly what you see, "not seeing, overturning in your mind, and draw", dumbass.

[Anonymous No.1832138]

>>1832133
Faces, hands, and feet man. Im better at whatever the hell this is but im not satisfied with it and it irritates me.

[Anonymous No.1832139]

>>1832136
Sorry. I just wanted to make sure so I don't practice the wrong way and pick up bad habits.

[Anonymous No.1832142]

>>1832124
how funny and original

>>1830909
>>1830957

[Anonymous No.1832148]

>>1832138 >>1832131

Do lots and lots of studies, it really is the best way to get human form/anatomy/whatever right. The one in this thread isn't life, but do it anyways, report back.

[Anonymous No.1832149]

>>1832139
No problem, I acted too aggressively.

[Anonymous No.1832154]

>>1832148
There are so many shapes im not actually sure where to dig in.i want to start with the torso but i cant get the shapes right after i get the torso shape on paper.

[Anonymous No.1832156]

>>1832154
I just wanna be like john baizley ;-;

[Anonymous No.1832168]

>>1832142
nah man, those were mine but i really tried this time. honest.

[Anonymous No.1832175]

How does one shade

[Anonymous No.1832179]

>>1832175
ayy lmoa

[Anonymous No.1832183]

>>1831315
the whole face configuration is messed up. you need to study the planes of the face.

[Anonymous No.1832184]

>>1831315
and the neck is way too long, i can see you have a lack of knowledge about anatomy. start there.

[Anonymous No.1832237]

Brogrammer form
>>1829803
>>1831445
Here's the finished thing of exercise #2.

I have no idea what I'm doing, but I already feel getting better. This one took me tons of time, 5 hours at the very least, probably way more.

Well, no, I do kinda get the point, but it's still hard to jump into that kind of drawing so soon after beginning. I already feel kinda capable of drawing stuff without turning the drawing upside down.

On to the next and last exercise before continuing the book.

[Anonymous No.1832241]

>>1832175

[Anonymous No.1832249]

What are some good books for learning how to draw the human figure?

[Anonymous No.1832250]

>>1830642

[Anonymous No.1832254]

>>1832249
Hampton. No idea where it can be found a human prize, though. Also, read the sticky.

[Anonymous No.1832272]

>>1832179
i tried to emphasize her characteristics, but ye maybe she does look alienish lol

[Anonymous No.1832303]

Loomis says to eyeball the tilt of the head but I consistently get it wrong and my center line and brow line always face a different direction than the model as a result. How do I accurately represent the tilt of the head?

[Anonymous No.1832309]

>>1832303
if you know it's wrong, fix it until it looks right. are you fucking stupid?

[Anonymous No.1832310]

>>1832309
Not him but I love you /ic/. Never change.

[Anonymous No.1832311]

>>1832309
I don't know? Problem is that I might only realize it's off until my features are already established. Or I can never really get the tilt totally right...

[Anonymous No.1832314]

>>1832311
so erase what you drew and draw it again, are you so fucking lazy that it's too haaaaaaaaaaaaard for you?

[Anonymous No.1832338]

>>1832314
It is possible to criticize someone without going full Aspergers over it, if you weren't aware. Observe.

>>1832303
If it doesn't look like, draw and redraw until it does. Patience is key.

[Anonymous No.1832341]

>>1832338
I can confirm this, today I drew a lot and now I draw better.

[Anonymous No.1832374]

>>1831918
>>1831166
holy shit. gib feedbacks pls.

also, here's my second try doing gestures. 1 min each

[Anonymous No.1832418]

Got back into sketching recently. Been using sharpie because I love the way the colors pop. Trying to get drawing people down but have always had a hard time getting details right.

[Anonymous No.1832446]

I tried doing that one the other day

[Anonymous No.1832530]

>>1832374
Slow your roll bro, don't expect feedback for EVERYTHING, just post and go back to drawing

>>1831166
There's no depth in this landscape, everything looks incredibly flat and it's hard to discern foreground from background. You got too much detail on a lot of parts that should have been simplified. For example, on the grass, I'm seeing every blade in yours, but the ref looks like a blur - same with the bricks

>>1832374
As far as your gestures go, try to find the line of action and start there instead of just replicating the contours. Everybody learns differently, but for me I usually don't get too hung up on a literal copy, I use the ref to get a gesture started then I just make up the rest as I see fit. This way I don't get lost in making a perfect copy.

Keep drawing, it's good to see that you are motivated :)

[Anonymous No.1832533]

Please critique this line art before I color it. How do I fix the hands? Any glaring anatomy mistakes? Any tips on better line art?

[Anonymous No.1832535]

>>1832533
Stop using the stabilizer or lazy nezumi or what ever the fuck is giving your strokes sharp tips.

[Anonymous No.1832536]

>>1832303
Take an afternoon to draw 50 heads, and make it your only goal that your 50th head is better than your first - you'll get it right based on trial and error

>>1832237
Nice, keep it up. Just curious, which do you like more coding or drawing? I got to the point where coding just bores the shit out of me, but it pays the bills. On the other hand, drawing is hard as fuck and I enjoy seeing my progress.

[Anonymous No.1832539]

>>1832533
Looks like a tranny in a WW outfit. Shoulders and neck are a bit too manly compared to the rest of the body. Looks like you got lazy on the forearms and the biceps check some anatomy on the location of the muscles.

If you just want a shortcut for the hands make them fists knuckled into her hips.

[Anonymous No.1832546]

>>1832272
she looks fucking terrifying, I love it

[Anonymous No.1832548]

>>1832341
This post is actually really uplifting

[Anonymous No.1832561]

How do I go about blocking in major value shapes when everything besides the forearm has such tiny subtle values? I've barely got the basic values even half done, yet drawing anywhere near the fingers feels like detailing.

[Anonymous No.1832566]

>>1832530
thanks for the comments. yeah i wasn't going for perspective or anything in the landscape, strictly textures. i guess its good im getting more detail than the ref. as for the gestures. yeah i realized im not looking for the longest line and building off that. i was just starting off the head and going the easiest route from there.

[Anonymous No.1832573]

>>1832533
gave it a quick go over. it's just a sort of general skeletal thing. i didn't think the arms were too bad so i skipped them and a bit of associated musculature on the chest which i also think you got pretty okay. i assumed the dutch angle was intentional. i put the boobs higher than usual because she has a sort of corset. sorry if it's no help.

[Anonymous No.1832574]

>>1832566
> its good im getting more detail than the ref.

Sometimes less is more - if you know what I mean.

Part of the challenge with textures is projecting them onto a surface. Some work in perspective would go a long way. You rarely have a chance to just draw textures on a plane - think of fabric textures for clothing, bark wrapping around a tree, stones forming the spire of a castle etc

Just keep practicing and posting, it's good for you

[Anonymous No.1832576]

>>1832574
true point didnt think of that. i tried to a little bit in mine with the palm sinew going 'around' and i tried to add some depth to the bush to the left of it. thanks again

[Anonymous No.1832618]

Alright beginners. Since we all know that grinding studies all day erry day gets you nowhere when you don't apply it, let's try something different. This is feel guy. Try give feel guy his very own 3D form. It's up to you where you put your lighting. This exercise also has the advantage of being your own custom reaction image, so that's a plus. Remember to take it slow and carefully if you're not that confident and always keep in mind the planes of the face with respect to the lighting. Highlights, cast shadows and bounce light might seem like a nuisance if you're just starting out but they do very much bring the image together, just be careful around them, subtlety is key.

Goodluck guys.

[Anonymous No.1832622]

>>1832618
Feel guy pic that is not for ants.

[Anonymous No.1832625]

>>1832618
A-am I Mullins yet???

[Anonymous No.1832626]

>>1832625
10/10

[Anonymous No.1832627]

>>1832625
>tfw you can also draw your own feel guy and not just paint over the outline because that would look kinda off
>tfw it still looks pretty impressive

[Anonymous No.1832650]

So I bought a Pentel brush pen and decided to try loosen up by drawing Bigu Bossu. Tell me where to get better?

[Anonymous No.1832663]

>>1829964
Hey, you guys know good shading tools for pencil drawing that are easy to use? (The pencils are a bit too scratchy for what I want.)

[Anonymous No.1832669]

>>1832561

get perspective and drawing right before you move onto greyscale rendering

[Anonymous No.1832670]

>>1830048
You... even symbol drew her tits.

OBSERVE, my man. "Draw what you see, not what you think you see". It's a cliche but it's true. Sharpen those observation skills.

[Anonymous No.1832672]

>>1830204
Shit tier answer: Draw the legs really short to compensate.

Mid tier answer: Finish the drawing so some details are cut off by the edge of the page.

Correct answer: Mentally or literally box out the boundary of the drawing. Kind of like the guy in pic related. Obviously the size of the box will change depending on the pose but as you practice you'll get a feel for it.

[Anonymous No.1832686]

>>1832650

Step 1: Get some lineless paper

[Anonymous No.1832692]

>>1830252
>>1830301
- Keep referring back to the sphere-with-bits-bolted on model. This means every feature you add has volume. If you end up drawing some guy and he has no cheekbones, then things have gone wrong.
- Although, the head isn't literally a ball. Look at the profile of your chinaman-looking guy, he needs a recess for the eye socket.
- Do you grind your pencil into the paper using a fist-grip?! Because that linework is heavy as fuck. Relax your hand.
- Careful with that ear placement.
- Keep drawing.

[Anonymous No.1832697]

>>1831166
Never mind doing textures, get your layout and values correct first.

Tree in photo is one of the darkest objects. In your drawing it's the same shade as the wall. Many of the palm's trimmed bits are lighter than the trunk. In your drawing they're universally dark.

That bush - don't draw every last leaf unless you're planning on doing hyperrealism. Much more important to suggest the detail of the bush by getting the shape correct, the values, and focus in on a few of the leaves, e.g. the ones that are catching the light in front of the darker mass of the bush.

You symbol-drew the bricks. They don't all have dark mortar around them. In fact some of the bricks are significantly darker than the mortar. Get the values correct before adding details.

In what alternate reality do you render smooth pebbles with furry, hairy strokes!? Focus on the shadow shapes.

You missed a trick in abstracting the patchy grass to be uniformly stringy. Render grass with tight, short strokes, paying attention to highlights.

To repeat the main points: work on your perspective, proportion, and values first.

[Anonymous No.1832698]

>>1831216
>what am I doing wrong?

Drawing anime.

Seriously.

(dat tiny vagina tho)

[Anonymous No.1832700]

>>1831315
Hey, there's some good things about this. Be really careful with measurements of proportions, and try not to outline. If you're struggling to see where the subject ends against the background, that usually means you haven't pushed the values far enough.

[Anonymous No.1832702]

>>1831334
Then your friend should yiff in hell.

Drawing furry shit means you need to be competent drawing both humans and animals. Start there, especially the human side. You're jumping in too deep for your current skill level.

Also furry stuff is degenerate; stop it.

[Anonymous No.1832704]

>>1831508
....

ABORT ABORT ABORT

How long are those arms? I'd wager they'd go well past her knees when straightened.

Sorry dude by the anatomy is fucked. The perspective too. Brush up on both those areas.

[Anonymous No.1832705]

>>1831535
>>1831557
You've gone from rag-dolls to noodly figures, which I guess is a step in the right direction. You're still getting hung up on drawing contours and outlines though. Do what Proko says and exaggerate. You want graceful, swooping, strong gesture lines.

[Anonymous No.1832706]

>>1832128
Turn the image upside-down, draw what you see, then when you turn your drawing upside down it should look right-side up. It's probably be weird-looking the but whole point of that exercise is to break your reliance on symbol-drawing.

[Anonymous No.1832707]

>>1832131
>I could find pictures of animals and trace and play around with them until ive memorized it but i dont really want to copy someone else.

Well, tough shit. Unless you're some kind of genius savant who can imagine a symphony without ever having heard music, everybody improves any skill you could mention by initially copying others. There's no shame at all in doing plenty of studies until you intuitively understand the structure of a human, animal etc and can eventually draw them from whatever angle you like.

[Anonymous No.1832709]

>>1832156
I guarantee you John Baizley got that good by doing loads of studies in addition to learning the fundamentals. So that's what you should do too.

[Anonymous No.1832711]

>>1832303
Practice. Your observation skills will improve.

Also always be on the lookout for "friendly" angles like horizontals, verticals, 45 degree angles. For angles in between it can be helpful to think of them as clock directions; "Hmm, her eye-line is almost at a 2 o'clock angle", or whatever.

[Anonymous No.1832712]

>>1832650
Hmm.. this is almost OK.

Block in dark areas more uniformly. What, there's no cast shadow under the collar, or in the creases of his shirt?

Line weight. His collar seems too flimsy.

Those tiny teddy-bear ears... also, don't symbol draw.

[Anonymous No.1832714]

>>1832663
I don't understand what you mean.

You don't want spaces between your strokes? Hatch tighter. It takes longer but it's worth it.

Your pencil nib is too sharp? Blunt it with a couple of strokes on sandpaper if regular use doesn't achieve it for you. Or turn the pencil so you're shading with the side, not the point.

If you wanted to be lame you could smudge or blur the graphite using your finger or a paper stump or a Q-tip or something similar, but I don't recommend it. People tend to let it become a crutch and their work develops a very samey, airbrushed feel.

[Anonymous No.1832715]

Just how do you make the jump from drawing on paper with drawing on a tablet.

On paper I can at least draw a comfortable circle with one stroke. On the tablet it does not even remotely looks like one the 10th time I go around.

[Anonymous No.1832716]

>>1832715
I got my first tablet late last week and it was pretty weird but it's just something you get used to the more you draw

[Anonymous No.1832840]

[Anonymous No.1832871]

Anyone have some good advice for materials?
I can't make objects appear to have the intended surface.

[Anonymous No.1832881]

>>1832697
great tips thanks. like i mentioned earlier i wasnt paying attention to perspective or proportion, just textures and value, which i obviously need to improve. will find another place to study foliage from and try again. thanks!

[Anonymous No.1832885]

>>1830942
I thought the "concept artist" was the hint to tracing.

[Anonymous No.1832886]

>>1831334
Your friend must hate you.

[Anonymous No.1832890]

[Anonymous No.1832898]

>>1832840
That's pretty good.
Now you should try to look at the shadows more carefully without being bothered by the little details. for exemple you only drew the shadow under the "guy's" chin when you should have looked for the general shape of that shadow, which actually goes further than the chin. Same for the hands. Start with abstract shapes, and in the end the form will make sense. Using a very big brush to begin the drawing or squinting your eyes could help you.

[Anonymous No.1832917]

>>1829964
>tfw finding torsos a lot more difficult than hands.
I just get them wrong, all the time.
I must study more but fuck it's demotivating.

[Anonymous No.1832936]

>>1830378
Bah I'm way too drained to continue on this one now.

I think I'll move on to a new image to study from. This one was difficult.

Moar

[Anonymous No.1832938]

So guys, where (or when) i can find Figure Drawing: Design and Invention at human price?

[Anonymous No.1832942]

>>1832938
What the fuck, amazon.com has it at $24.60 (19 €), while the cheaper on amazon.it is at € 64,59 ($ 83,89)

[Anonymous No.1832951]

>>1832702
furries pays a lot for commission tho

[Anonymous No.1832996]

>>1832938
do you even pirate?

[Anonymous No.1833003]

>>1832996
and by pirate I mean cgpeers. Don't forget to seed.

[Anonymous No.1833012]

Feel free to criticise my terrible work into the ground. I've almost given up with drawing.

[Anonymous No.1833022]

I have not drawn in ages, and i really wan't to pick it up again, but i have no clue where to begin, this is what i did yesterday from a reference, please tear it apart.

[Anonymous No.1833023]

>>1833012

Don't give up you fucking faggot.

Do you have any stuff from reference?

[Anonymous No.1833027]

>>1832996
I really want a physical copy, I hate reading books on computer.

[Anonymous No.1833029]

>>1833027
fattelo stampare in una copisteria

[Anonymous No.1833032]

>>1833022

Looks decent, couple of perspective issues, especially with that main gun and roof area. Work on cleaning up that chicken scratch.

[Anonymous No.1833033]

>>1833023
I did it from memory.

I am just terrible at this shit.

[Anonymous No.1833035]

>>1833029
Mi sa che dovrò fare così. Prima volta che vedo una discrepanza di prezzo tale tra i due amazon.
Comunque, sempre bello incontrare italiani su 4chan.

[Anonymous No.1833056]

I got a tablet a year ago because I want to do digital art but a lack of interest in any "real" subject matter combined with ADD has prevented me from practicing pretty much completely, digitally or otherwise.

I'm really into pokemon because I'm an autist with no taste, and I decided to start doing these quick and dirty gesture sketches to help solidify some basic understanding of form. I plan on doing all of the pokemon eventually because this is one of the very few ways I've found for me to actually get some mileage on the tablet without getting bored.

Now, my concern is that I'm using the Ken Sigumori art for "study", if it can even be called that, and obviously a lot of the shapes he does are symbolic. Would this still be worth doing for practice, then?

[Anonymous No.1833091]

>>1832936
It's missing a few things anon.

[Anonymous No.1833096]

Redo

[Anonymous No.1833101]

>>1833091
Should I just redoit from the scratch then?

[Anonymous No.1833118]

>>1833091
>>1832936
Noticed several things that ended up bothering me too much to leave it.

[Anonymous No.1833122]

>>1832618
here's a lame attempt

[Anonymous No.1833134]

>>1830642
I think my dinner is done so I'll just post what I have so far

[Anonymous No.1833135]

>>1832618

[Anonymous No.1833137]

>>1833134
sorry, dumb mistake

[Anonymous No.1833140]

Could I do a Rembrandt study using pencil
I'm on keys to drawing and I don't have a ink brush to do his study

[Anonymous No.1833144]

>>1833140
You could do it in chalk or strategically peeing in the snow if you wanted. Use the tools you have until you can get the tools you want.

[Anonymous No.1833145]

>>1833144
Why don't I see more piss in snow on /ic/?

[Anonymous No.1833146]

>>1833145
The world isn't ready

[Anonymous No.1833147]

>>1833144
THanks

[Anonymous No.1833169]

I'll go ahead and leave my WIP in the correct thread this time

[Anonymous No.1833212]

>>1832712
Thanks anon. I'm gonna do a study on ears a little later. Meanwhile, I just quickly did another one. How's this?

>>1832686
I have some sketchbooks but it's in another room that I have to clean up before I can grab them so yeah.

[Anonymous No.1833417]

>>1833118
That's better but you still forgot the nipples.

[Anonymous No.1833520]

>>1831118
Do you have any tips for breaking down the figure into shapes like you've done? I feel like it'll help my own linework in looking more three dimensional.

[Anonymous No.1833564]

>>1829964
did this one without reference, I need to improve my poses, do gestures really help a lot? because I don't do those much. I also need anatomy but I'm more concerned about making poses that look natural

[Anonymous No.1833567]

did this one without reference, I need to improve my poses, do gestures really help a lot? because I don't do those much. I also need anatomy but I'm more concerned about making poses that look natural

[Anonymous No.1833600]

>>1830642
Anyone willing to tell me how to do a study in photoshop? Apparently I suck tremendous amounts of dicks.

[Anonymous No.1833614]

>>1833600

[Anonymous No.1833622]

>>1833614
Thank you.

[Anonymous No.1833624]

>>1833600
Try a harder brush and block in the values instead of trying to render the values from the start. Not much different than traditional techniques.

[Anonymous No.1833643]

>>1833614
original pic please

[Anonymous No.1833646]

[Anonymous No.1833652]

>>1833643

Don't have it, this content is not mine, should have mentioned that sorry

[Anonymous No.1833663]

>>1832871
i always see noobs, and myself to some extent making this same mistake. materials that look a bit like putty but it's hard to see exactly why that is. i feel like it's several factors. i always want to say to people 'hey that shit looks like badly modelled clay, here's what you should do to stop that happening..' but i don't know what they should do.

[Anonymous No.1833666]

>>1830204
it's indicative of you not taking enough time. next time you do a gesture set aside 2 whole minutes where you just look at the model and think about how you're going to translate it onto the page. don't even touch your pencil. then do a 30 second or 1 minute gesture. i think you'll be pleasantly surprised by the results as long as you spend that 2 minutes wisely.

[Anonymous No.1833669]

>>1833652
i mean the photo btw

[Anonymous No.1833685]

i try

[Anonymous No.1833690]

Kinda skewed, but this is the first time I do a skull.
Also real skulls are kind gross, I never expected that.

[Anonymous No.1833696]

meh

[Anonymous No.1833701]

>>1833696
drawn again, upside down

[Anonymous No.1833750]

first attempt at a figure drawing
advice please?

[Anonymous No.1833783]

>>1833750
Try practicing by drawing "template" skeletons and such. Check the sticky.

[Anonymous No.1833800]

here's my first attempt at a skull. all critiques welcome!

[Anonymous No.1833804]

>>1833696
form looks fine to me? besides there being to much space in between the shins. render more detail

[noko No.1833991]

did this just now! took a while, would like some critique, thanks!

[ArtGolfer No.1834012]

>>1833800
Looks good. Did you draw from a photo, or do you have a prop? It seems like the placement of the eye sockets worked well. The jaw shape seems to be too square. The upper and lower teeth fit together well. Try doing a skull drawing next to a face drawing.

[Anonymous No.1834078]

Are there any exercises to practice perspective?

It's very frustrating understanding how all these concepts on how to build shapes work. But I just end up drawing random shapes from imagination and getting nowhere.

[Anonymous No.1834099]

>>1834078
norling

[Anonymous No.1834103]

>>1834012
yeah i used a ref pic. interesting enough, the pic isnt even a pic, its someone elses work in some modelling program. now i see what you mean about it being square. theres a curves ridge

[Anonymous No.1834128]

>>1832536
I can't tell, anon. I just began drawing last week. So far I would say that drawing can make me a bit mad when the drawing just won't fucking come out. It can be very frustrating, and I'm not even drawing things I want at the moment anyway.

On the other hand, there are things that I just HATE coding. I've been working with integrations, like integrating a platform with for example, Mandrill, Mixpanel, Eventbrite, etc., and it's one of the worst things I could do, I hate it.

But coding stuff I like is seriously satisfying. Making clean also gives a very nice feel, but at the end of it all, I think that what I like is simply "creating" itself. I just feel fantastic, making something from nothing, creating something useful, beautiful, or impressive, and I get this feel with coding, drawing, and music.

What do you code, anon? Some stuff is just plain boring, but there are genuinely fun things to do in programming.

I'll post the next drawing in the book soon, it's kinda weird and I've been busy. I hope to finish it in later tonight.

[Anonymous No.1834140]

What are you supposed to do or look for in a "study"?

I tried to copy.

ref >>1822802

[Anonymous No.1834147]

>>1834140
pick something you want to improve on. her head is tilted wrong

[Anonymous No.1834148]

>tfw realize that you started too big and the rest of the picture won't fit in paper

Fuck me.

[Anonymous No.1834157]

Does drawing robots actually help grasp anatomy (and specifically the streamlining/stylizing thereof), or am I just lying to myself so that I can draw fun stuff?
(I've made robots a part of my figure drawing curriculum and I felt like it helped me understand, but my instructor said I'm full of shit and am building ruinous habits, now I don't know what to do.)

[Anonymous No.1834162]

>>1834157
Not when you suck at it.

>>1834140
You look at something you like and then you identify why in particular you like it, and then you look at how the artist produced the reasons for why in particular you like it on the medium and then you replicate the latter to understand the artists craftsmanship.
Not to be rude, but you're not gonna effectively do that on a different fucking medium you fuck. Unless, of course, you're only interested in composition or construction in which case you should probably save some time and just analyze instead of replicate.

[Anonymous No.1834163]

Should I start with loomis, hampton or vilpuu?
I like hampton, also
how do I grind till awesome?
progression wise i mean

[Anonymous No.1834164]

>>1834148
>not planning everything out with thumbnails beforehand
>not establishing basic forms first

Get it together anon

[Anonymous No.1834165]

>>1830642

My very first /ic/ study. What do you think fellas?

I got lazy on the arm and the highlights, but man I wanna sleep - I've drawn/painted easy 5 hours today. Photoshop still seems unwieldy to me - the brush never does what I want it too.

[Anonymous No.1834166]

>>1834164
That's what I'm trying anon, this is only my 4th or 5th drawing. I'm trying to git gud and not have shit like this happen.

And what's that thumbnail planning you mention?

[Anonymous No.1834167]

>>1834163
You should try Scott Eaton, Found him great.

[Anonymous No.1834168]

>>1834166
A thumbnail is just a small drawing which you do before a larger illustration, its an initial sketch focusing on composition and the overall idea of a piece.

[Anonymous No.1834188]

>>1834147
I don't have an idea I want to express myself. So I am just copying in order to build experience and remember what looks good.

>head is wrong
Also the shape on the left side is wrong.

>>1834162
The appeal for me is in the subject matter. She is a young girl but wearing working clothes and has such a resigned expression. Also, her pose simultaneously shows her meek demeanor and draws the eyes to the boots as the focal point. The low key colors also add to this feeling : a quiet resignation to the hardships of life.

So I guess the only technical aspect would be facial expression, which I managed to fuck up...

I guess I will try this again in color later on.

[Anonymous No.1834194]

I just did this and now I'm gonna watercolour over it, but I'm fucking terrified. Any tips for watercolour?

[Anonymous No.1834196]

No matter what I do I just can't get better at post processing my renders

[Anonymous No.1834198]

>>1834194
yeah, make sure the ink is waterproof.

since there's already shadow pattern any wash would be suffice. just have fun with it.

[Anonymous No.1834202]

>>1834157
Don't draw robots to study fundamentals. I drew robots, cause I like mech, but you can cheat a lot with robots to bypass anatomy and gesture, by making the robots bulky or extra thin.

Do gesture and learn anatomy, and it will make you robots look fucking badass.

But don't stop drawing robots, cause you need to study mechanisms and detail placement to git gud at robots.

[Anonymous No.1834203]

>>1834198
Yeah, it's India ink. Thanks mate

[Anonymous No.1834215]

>>1834196
humm, that delicious 75% dark chocolate coffee table.
10/10 would eat.

[Anonymous No.1834227]

does anyone have any exercises or tutorials or anything to help learn crosshatching or any other form of shading? I followed the sticky, but loomis feels too cartoony, like I'm drawing for the funny pages in the sunday paper.

[Anonymous No.1834251]

>>1834198
Here you go. Not really good with this stuff, I'm gonna try again tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.1834254]

>>1829964
I've been trying to do gestures of the OP and trying to shake off the contour drawing. Am I on the right track?

[Anonymous No.1834255]

>>1834254
This one was done an hour later.

[Anonymous No.1834257]

>>1834251

looks like that metal gear artist

[Anonymous No.1834260]

>>1834257
Yoji Shinkawa has god tier art

[Anonymous No.1834262]

>>1834257
Yeah, I ripped him off. Shinkawa's one of my favourite artists ever.

[Anonymous No.1834424]

>>1833033
Well there's your problem. Use references. Build up a visual library. You drawing a machine? google up some fucking machine parts and use them as references for drawings.

[Anonymous No.1834429]

>>1834255
These do look better. Why are you only doing one pose though?

[Anonymous No.1834452]

This shit took me like 40 minutes or something, fuck hands.

[Anonymous No.1834466]

>>1834452
That wrist is way too large. Also that type of study is much faster to do in pencil. There is no reason to use digital for it.

[Anonymous No.1834501]

Can someone recommend a site with some good 3d models?

[Anonymous No.1834507]

>>1834501
3d computer* graphic* models

[Anonymous No.1834519]

>>1834466
I tried to do it on paper it came out it even worse, I'm just going to skip the hands section for now and move on to the leg part in the book.
Fuck hands.

[Anonymous No.1834546]

Studyig hurts

m-moar..

[Anonymous No.1834553]

How are the values on this?

[Anonymous No.1834558]

>>1834553
It's not perfect but I like the handle

[Anonymous No.1834561]

>>1834553
Your whites are too strong.

[Anonymous No.1834566]

>>1834561
>>1834558

I see, thanks.

[noko No.1834587]

>>1834546
look good but would come together when you put in the highlights on the left side of his face, shoulder, and fingers. dont be afraid to go whiter.

[Anonymous No.1834615]

>>1834553
Add fresnel, the edge of the silouette should be lighter. Otherwise it appears flat at the edges.

[Anonymous No.1834687]

Today I'm going to learn how to draw heads & faces.

[Anonymous No.1834710]

>>1834260
Amen

[Anonymous No.1834728]

I´m trying to get away from going full chicken on my sketches.

How did this head turn out?

[Anonymous No.1834738]

Beautiful girl, sorry for being late but I couldn't pass her..

I'm not sure what to do from here. Also the values were hard to catch

[Anonymous No.1834743]

>>1834738
urgh Sorry about the face. Didn't do her justice but the version I had had really bad resolution... that'll be my excuse.

[Anonymous No.1834746]

>>1834728
Flat

[Anonymous No.1834758]

>>1834746
Well, you answered my question but that´s not really helpful. Care to explain?

[Anonymous No.1834761]

New >>1834760

[Anonymous No.1834785]

>>1834743
its okay. doing her justice wouldnt really help her much anyways

[Anonymous No.1834795]

Why won't the pain go away Anon...

[Anonymous No.1837264]

I need help /ic/! I started drawing last year in december. here is some work so far... Lately i'm in a rut, I try to draw a face that would have taken me 20 minutes to at least look recognisable and now after an hour I can't even get the features right. Can't even fathom how to render, never been good at it.. I need an exercise I can do that will make me feel better about art again, I'm seriously on the edge of just giving up.