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1822729 No.1822729 [Reply] [Original]

okay guys.
pls post the most technically impressive picture of an anime girl (since that's what we love of animu) you got in your computer or from the internet.

I'm curious as to what anons consider draftmanship in animu.

>why only anime girls
That's the thing that makes anime special from any other genre.

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>>1822729
someone's going to spam it with shitposts and you know it.

>> No.1822741

There's a containment anime thread already
post there >>>/1819601/

>> No.1822743

>>1822741
that's for draw, this is for discussion, you need to stop being retarded.

>> No.1822744

>>1822741
not the same faggot.
I'm looking for the best of the best.

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>>1822736
inb4 before it all goes to hell

>> No.1822751

>>/h/
>>/c/

>> No.1822753

>>1822751
most of that is vanilla tier.

>> No.1822757

>That's the thing that makes anime special from any other genre.
what?

Girls don't exist in other genres?

>> No.1822758

there's no most technically impressive picture of anime gurl, it could have but then that depends on your criteria even so with the infinite variation you could take on art it's hard to tell and in the end just falls to your taste and likes.

>> No.1822760

>>1822757
girls in other genres don't look like animu.

most males that doesn't have a female face looks like comics or cartoons.

>> No.1822761

>>1822758
>I can't post my favorite pic.

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>>1822760
>girls in other genres don't look like animu.
Then males should be allowed by that logic, because
>most males that doesn't have a female face looks like comics or cartoons.
isn't anywhere true.

It's like you don't even watch the shit

>> No.1822771

>>1822767
you know what I mean by animu waifu.

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>>1822729

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>>1822771
Then you should go make a thread in /c/, because you're clearly not interested in the "draftmanship in animu" but rather looking for just pretty pictures of anime girls.

Prove me wrong.

>> No.1822777

>>1822775
look nigger.
I have 2GB of animu girls as reaction pics.

But I'm looking towards what's the best of the best anime can do.

feel free to post wathever you like.

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>>1822777
>But I'm looking towards what's the best of the best anime can do.
Then you should have said that instead of thinking with your dick for once

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>>1822777

>> No.1822786

>>1822777
>I have 2GB of animu girls as reaction pics.
Holy fuck, why? Do you think this is something to be proud of?

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>>1822786
I dunno, I save cool pics on my 4chan folder.

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actually the only anime girl picture i have on my computer. It's not technically impressive, but I find it nice to look at.

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Well took me a while. This one is the least fucked up I have from that pixiv artist whom i cant recall his name.

>> No.1822796

>>1822789
>having a 4chan folder

>> No.1822798
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I'm no fan of animu because of the lack for realism on 99 per cent of it, but dayum, this man knows his stuff.

>> No.1822800

>>1822773
Strength nryion

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>>1822729

>> No.1822804

>>1822796
>not having a 4chan folder

>> No.1822807

>>1822798

wanted to post this but thought 'aw snap rather not post anime CP'

lol. good taste anon (artistically)

>> No.1822808

>>1822782
>tokiya sakuba
thanks for posting, i've been trying to find him.
do you have a pic he made with blue women eating goo or something? i can't find it on any of his sites anymore, and it was the most memorable to be :(

>> No.1822813

>>1822808
*to me

>> No.1822824

>>1822796
I pretty much have that too though.

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No redjuice? Redjuice is best juice

>> No.1822834

>>1822832
I'm not a fan of overly polished animu art. I like my girls a little rough around the edges.

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>>1822832
Indeed.

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>>1822832
Goddammit you beat me to it.

>> No.1822847

>>1822832
>>1822844

Is he using 3D software for parts of the background?

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it's hard to tell. it's like asking what the highest level of cartoon is.
with some artists you can obviously tell that there is a lot of skill there, but a lot of them focus on very different things and it's hard to compare.

animu art is a bit different from what we usually value though. it's more like cartoons. it's more about what you can do with the style, or what you are depicting with your art instead of how great a single image is.
i find it incredibly hard to find one image or artist that tops everything in every aspect.

i'll try posting a few images i guess

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>>1822849

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>>1822852
there are these type of artists, and then there are artists that render more like most korean or chinese artists

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>>1822847
I know he's perfectly familiar with using modeling programs for concepts he's done. So probably yes, although whenever he has used it for the concepts he gives credit to his use of it? And I've never seen him give credits on his drawings? Idk.

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>>1822853
i like it if there is a good mix between both.

>> No.1822858

>>1822857
That's hideous though.

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>>1822834
like this?

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>>1822858
because you're a weeb

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>>1822860
and usually, drawing is more important than coloring. (colors are important for presentation, but if the drawing is shit, nothing works)

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With all the Loomis thumping and the strive for fundamentals, why have we not managed to replicate these here? The only person I can think of that has come close to the level of skill ITT would be Teal and maybe Temeh but even Temeh has said he wish he could draw moe.

All we ever do is talk about other Artists, has anyone actually gotten to this level of draftsmanship that is from /ic/?

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>>1822863
honestly, who cares about the best? animu is supposed to be fun.
just like with cartoons and animation, it's more about "what" you draw and what you can do with your drawings rather than single illustrations

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>>1822864
>teal
lel

>> No.1822867

>>1822859
yes, loving that.
I like to see the brush strokes. It feels more honest and unpretentious that way.

>> No.1822869

>>1822866
My question still stands, why have we not managed to git gud? What are we missing?

>> No.1822872

>>1822869
dunno, probably not enough practice?
i hope i'm getting closer

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>>1822867
you are gonna love hjl, then.

>> No.1822878

>>1822864
the background is good, but the girl isn't that impressive. i can draw a girl like that without a problem, but if it's background that you think we're lacking, then it's the wrong thread.

>> No.1822881

>>1822802
who painted this? i like it.

>> No.1822882

>>1822876
>hjl
highly jizzed ledges?

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Anything from the original GITS is faultless Loomis wise.

>> No.1822966

>>1822910
how the fuck would you know

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>>1822729
i like those old anime which are still pretty much animated versions of the manga, so they still have the manga look, hatching, line, silhouette. like the old OVAs you know?

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>> No.1823016

>>1822793
So a realistic painting with an outline and a shit symbol face? Would actually look good without that disgusting animu face.
>>1822798
Same here

So basically what you consider good anime art is realism + anime sameface? Why the fuck do they need to have such revolting bug eyes for you to consider it good art?
You people disgust me. Please don't post outside your contamination threads, at least not on /ic/. We should really have that in the rules - no fucking animu mango shit

>> No.1823027

>>1823016
I posted >>1822798 and as I said I don't like anime. You are totally right about the faces. If the artist (RA, in case anyone wants to know) used realistic faces it would be so much better.

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>>1822729
I was looking for Little Witch Academia art book today... any one has it or knows where to get it? As for the draftmanship and such... In my case I will say is the gesture and such, since it's for animation. If we are talking about the stylization then it really depends if it fits the story or characters

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>>1822760
>girls in other genres don't look like animu
Completely agree, I find that girls in comics/cartoons usually look meh or just not as appealing but that's probably because I'm into 14 y-olds and muricans are too puritanical to sexualize teenagers
>>1822767
Not the anon you are replying to, and I'm not agreeing with him either, but I think animu male characters often look awful

>> No.1823127

>>1823098

Is there a scan of the lwa book?

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>>1823016
Talking shit about symbols and simplified things in stylized works shows your ignorance. Cartoons are designed to be inoffensively attractive like photoshoped stock models. They have only the bare minimums of what makes a face so that brain can't find anything wrong with them.

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>>1822979
Dezaki anime you mean

>> No.1823165

>>1822910
shoulders too big

>> No.1823169

>>1823016
>>1823027
what are you on? realistic faces are disgusting. fuck you and your bad taste. if it bothers you so much, don't include it in your artwork. worry about your art, etc.

>> No.1823248

>>1823127
I hope so

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hoshi kubi

>> No.1823305
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When anime is done badly, it looks like a nightmarish parody of humanity. When anime is done well, it's a distillation of humanity's essence.

also pretty girls

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>> No.1823312

>>1823310
>thatsnothowreflectionswork.png

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this

>> No.1823323

>>1823310
Can't read this at all. Are two skies there? The shitty blocks of stone are just there to look distracting.

>> No.1823559

>>1823165
That's the jacket though.

>> No.1823565

symbol faces
hair-thin linework
everything is rigid and geometric - clothes, hair, water
perspective is very (but not completely) flattened

Any anime/manga that manages to avoid these is good.

>> No.1823614

You can always tell the artist knows their shit with a lot of Anime.

Early Gainax escpecially

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>>1823269
I've been wanting to know who this guy is for ages, I only have one picture and it wouldn't reverse search. Thanks!

I wanted to post an example of a girl with pushed proportions to a point that would be ugly irl but is still cute because it's anime, but this is all the ainmu I can find on my computer.

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pomodorosa

>> No.1823827

>>1823801
How can someone be so good at drawing bodies but completely fuck up the perspective of the water surface and background.

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>>1823827
Because it's the people that are the focus in being pixiv star, most anime/manga has blank or static clip art/ filtered-photo backgrounds.
Nobody every wants to be the inker or the background artist, they want to be head mangaka and draw the cuties.

Pic related similar

>> No.1823851

>>1823827
it's a slanted perspective, you fool.

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>>1823849
Lolwut. Top pixiv artists in the original work category almost always feature extremely complex/busy backgrounds and minimalistic/no character.

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>>1823801
I've been a big fan of his works for a long time now. I'd say he's one of the best technically proficient artist I've ever seen.

link to his pixiv:
pixiv.net/member.php?id=2244

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>>1822729
Would be nice if he drew different body types though.

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I love this shit.

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>>1822729

>> No.1824900

>>1822767
Is that...

Yukimura Sanada and Kanetsugu Naoe?

I played Samurai Warriors, but why on earth would you make historical characters look fabulous?

>> No.1824903 [DELETED] 

>>1822802
This is good. Everything else is symbol face shit.

Anime doesn't need to have symbol faces. Even if you want to include symbol faces in your art, you have to understand that you can't make it look super realistic otherwise it looks like shit. I fail to understand why the chinks don't get that.

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Cellar-FCP draws pretty ballin animu females and males.

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>> No.1825032

>redjuice
why

>> No.1825038

>>1822736
>latex socks

>> No.1825041

>>1822869

not making shitty, catty meta commentary posts or falling for bait on /ic/ for hours, draw instead

>> No.1825043

>>1825041

also you could have at least sourced the posts in this thread you fuckers

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>anime thread
>no tatsuyuki tanaka

stay plebs

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>>1825051
>plebs
yet you post a reaction image pretty much opposite of him

>> No.1825092

>>1825051
>tatsuyuki tanaka
that probably wouldn't count as "anime" in OPs definition.
hell, i bet cellar fcp barey counts.

>> No.1825094

>>1825051
>tatsuyuki tanaka
op wants technically impressive pics of grills, not backgrounds. lrn2read faggot.

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yoshinari you is god

>> No.1825404

>>1822729
my favroites style wise are the berserk guys shit, both in manga and painted/marker scenes he did with caska and the witch (forget her name)

the guys style is what i want.

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>>1824564
Agreed, I've always wondered how the fuck he got so good.
It's a shame I don't read moon, I want to know about him. How old is he? I've assumed he's a man but there's some really in depth knowledge of alternative youth fashion there.
And he's not afraid to put his really full on fetishism side by side with the rest of his work.

His comics look fun too http://drawr.net/metalunamutant

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100% pure skill

>> No.1827381

>>1827379
damn the brown chick's arm is really long

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>> No.1829876

>>1825032
Why what? What's wrong with Redjuice?

>> No.1829885

>>1827381
Talk shit about busty brown 1 more time m8 and I swer on me mums fookn loiyfe I'l bash yer fukn skull in m8 innit

>> No.1829886

>>1827379
>100% pure skill
>hiding hands

kek

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>> No.1829921

>>1829910
nice, kinda reminds me of jen zee

>> No.1830069

>>1823822
>pomodorosa
Bring me the coffee.

>> No.1830078

>>1822729
>>>/a/

>> No.1830083

>>1830078
>i'm 12

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>>1825092

>cellar fcp
>anime

by that logic all asians draw anime because their art has asian sensibility.
Fuck off

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>>1830083

>> No.1830088

>>1830087
>dat HD projection

>> No.1830091

>>1830088
>doesn't know what projection means
whatever you say anon.

>> No.1830093

>>1830091
>being this mad

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>>1830093
>original retort
please,more anon-kun

>> No.1830098

>>1830096
confirmed mad

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>>1830098

>> No.1830103

>>1822786
nigga my folder was ~64 gigs+

>> No.1830106

>>1830102
I'm sad that you are mad

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>> No.1830212

>>1830208
I think I know what uncanny valley means now.

>> No.1830287

>>1823305
This picture is beautiful, as is your comment.

>> No.1830298

>>1830212
That's not UV though

>> No.1830403

>>1825098
this is my kind of style more pls

>> No.1830478

>>1825098
chicken scratch

>> No.1830488

>>1830478
>incorrectly spouting /ic/ buzzwords

kek

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>>1822758
Just post one of your favorites man.

>> No.1830762

>>1830751
dat giant hand

>> No.1830765
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>>1830084
So where is the line between "anime" and "asian sensibility", huh?

>> No.1830770
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>>1830084
He's the perfect mix of anime and real.

>> No.1830813
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I really like takamichi, the artist that does the comic LO covers.
His drawings are always so minimalistic and simple in terms of brushwork and yet they feel so reach and alive.

>> No.1830824
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>>1830813
>LO

>> No.1830914

>>1824933
>tfw working in korea as a concept artist
>taking extra class because i wanna git gud-er
>I like the painterly style like cellar
>they won't allow me to deviate from the semi-realistic mmo style every korean game has

Fuck individualism here... at least I'm getting out of here soon into the USA with reasonable work hours.

>> No.1830991

>>1830824
>Getting arrested for drawings
>"uh you know, the subject matter of drawings is as equally damaging and uh, repugnant like the real thing, so uh, it should be illegal too! you know like, uh it gaves an oportunity to fuck people over nothing so yeah lol, uh, u r done ;p"
I wonder how long it will take for the moralfag bullshit to reach my country.

>> No.1830997

>>1830991
It's already there anon.

It's everywhere.

>> No.1831004

>>1830997
Its only times like those that i am glad that i live in a artistically illiterate third world country.
Maybe most of the things suck, but at least i can draw what i want and enjoy drawings.
I noticed that late night anime are starting to become heavy in censorship of violence lately, it's slowly
coming to an end isn't it? soon most of the world will not even be able to depict violence without being paranoid.

>> No.1831008

>>1830997
>>1830991
Usually, people that have loli on their hardrive also have real cp, if they only searched and prosecuted retards in possession of the real deal it would be fine, but "illegal drawings" is a concept so fucking stupid I can't believe it exists, and I'm not even into loli.
It's like those assholes who chopped dicks out of statues because "muh morals".

>> No.1831013

>>1830991
>>1831008
This is just a consequence of older people learning how to internet. The problem is at its peak now and will decline as they die off.

The other, younger end of the spectrum (SJWs) will never hold political power as long as politics takes money so there's really no danger. Expect everything to blow over in the next decade or so.

>> No.1831018 [DELETED] 

>>1831004
And it gets worse, they are taking things down slowly, systematically, to reach what they really want, total control over creativity.
They start taking objectionable things first, no one will fight for them, and those who do will be ridiculed, and make their way to freedom of speech, shit, they are already censoring everything they can.

>> No.1831019
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>>1831008
Please not the loli talk again, this was a very nice thread, yes drawings being illegal is stupid but we could have another full thread about it and still not come to a conclusion. I really like this artist.

>> No.1831022

>>1831019
Oh he was already posted, didn't notice.

>> No.1831032
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>>1831019
>>1831013
>>1831008
>>1831004
>>1830997
>>1830991
Things like these make me want to go into loli just to piss off the retards.
Pic so I don't shitpost.

>> No.1831036

>>1830914
Really?

I always thought cellar was pretty standard korean mmo style.

>> No.1831037

>>1831032
Some western artis are already doing it, http://exhentai.org/g/721023/4a7c54d1d2/
>All Characters depicted in sexual situations are underage. So what?
You probably can't do it if you want a professional career outside of japan though, you will probably have a hard time finding
work in high profile companies if you are known for loli sadly.

>> No.1831089

>>1831037
Oi man, can you post the picture? or the artist name?
I don't go to sad panda and I just tried to bypass it in several different ways, I even registered to the g.e.hentai forums and nothing.
Call me a fag, retard, tech illiterate or whatever, it's true, just post the pic please.

>> No.1831096

>>1831089
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=44851388
Its the whole thing, i hope you can access pixiv at least.

>> No.1831145

>>1831096
Well, it wasn't what I expected, I'm suspecting that you posted the cover.

>> No.1831150

>>1831145
You are suspecting wrong, did you discover the internet yesterday?

>> No.1831209
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>>1831145
You retard, you have to click this cover and wait for the sequence of images to load.
You probably don't know you have to click on a picture on DevianTart to enlarge it, either?

>> No.1831396

>>1822864
I think it must be the culture difference. Even when western artists copy everything, they still draw bitch girls, a la >>1831089

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>>1822863
Wasn't going to post this till you said that. Obvs colours can't save bad line art, but they can ascend mediocre line art.

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>> No.1831552

>>1831150
>>1831209
Are you both fucking retarded? Did I say or implied that I couldn't read the shit or didn't clicked on the image? Do you fail to grasp the fucking meaning of what's written in ther, or what that fuck are you two guessing in here, huh?
Jesus christ, nice reading comprehension dipshits, I bet you don't understand half the shit you read.

>> No.1831573

>>1831552
If you cant write properly it doesn't fall to the readers to decrypt your nonsense.

>> No.1831584

>>1823857
I have a pixiv artbook from the supposedly 'top' artists. Those which I thought stood out without falling into the same moe or generic rubbish I tagged. About 10% were tagged only.

>> No.1831603

>>1823087
>>1824564
oh my holy god
>>1831423
whoa

>> No.1831613

>>1831573
If you fail to grasp the context on which the reply is written, it is your fault, besides, what kind of chode reacts like that?

>> No.1831629

>>1831613
Don't you think that you are getting too defensive just because you couldn't write your thoughts properly?

>> No.1831654

>>1830084
cellar fcp almost copied samura's style to a tee, and that's a mangaka. just like OP, you have a very limited view of what anime style looks like

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>>1831552
You can't access Sadpanda, which you can literally do with the first answer from Google, in less than 5 minutes. It is obvious that you are not the brightest person in this thread.
An no, I don't know "what's written in ther", who is ther, anyway?

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>>1831629
I know I expresed my thoughts correctly, people just assumed the meaning of my words due a poor grasp of context.
>I wan't to get into loli to piss retards
> Some western artists are already doing it, http://exhentai.org/g/721023/4a7c54d1d2/
>I tried but I can't get past the sad panda, can you post the image?
>http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=44851388
>I thought it was an illustration, but it's a comic and it isn't top notch, it wasn't what I expected.
>I wan't to piss retards, and the cover is the only thing directly pissing retards, I was never able to see this http://exhentai.org/g/721023/4a7c54d1d2/ so I'm suspecting you posted the cover as an example before, right?
>"hurr duur u no use internet lel xd suc dik"

You idiots assumed that I knew it was/expected a doujin, you assumed I was talking about the pixiv post and you assumed I wasn't able to read it.
You gave a complete different meaning to my comment, and acted like douchebags pointing at nothing.
What a fine display of intelligence guys, well done.

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>>1831944
Pls don't cry.
Here, have a naked loli.

>> No.1831960

>>1822832

Mah nigga. Hate the hungry skeleton style, but everything else is great. Shame about the trainwreck he was concept artist for...

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>>1831802
I tried to bypass it several times in different ways, I did exactly what the instructions told me to do, and nothing, my last resort was registering to the forums and even when I logged in, it didn't grant me acces, so fuck you, smart guy.
Also I wrote that shit at 3:00am , I bet you haven't written any typos in your life, right? You're the embodiment of perfection dude!.
Get fucked.

>> No.1831974

>>1831957
could be 13-28 years old.

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>>1822729

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>>1831802
>being able to acces a website is a meter for intelligence.
Oh, and then what? being able to click on images to enlarge them is also a sign of overdeveloped ribbon synapses?

>> No.1831982

>>1831970
what is funny is that you were accusing others of bad reading comprehension, yet you couldn't even understand that i was
spoon feeding you the link that you couldn't access. Of cures no one would understand what you were saying.

>> No.1831989

>>1831982
And what's the relationship between terrible reading comprehension and spoonfeeding? huh? And "spoonfeeding" me was up to you, you massive faglord, you could have very well refused and kept your "sicrit weebsites" to yourself.
>I don't want to post an image on an image board so you can reverse search for it if interested, neither do I want to post the whole thing on another link, like a normal human being, I want you to work for it so you can be part of the weeb club :D

>> No.1832000

>>1831989
I posted the gallery because it's much more convenient than having retards asking for the source, yet as it seems retars will be upset no matter what you do.
Its not my fault that you can't understand the most basic things about the machine you are using, and i also gave you an alternative, you still didn't understand that i
did that, so you started complaining that people misread your post because you were in fact even more stupid than your understanding could guess.

>> No.1832005

>>1823312
>i don'tknowaboutshadows.jpg

>>1823310
still, i like everything about the picture, except the wings. They look like they were copypasted there.

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>>1832000
>and i also gave you an alternative, you still didn't understand that i did that, so you started complaining that people misread your post because you were in fact even more stupid than your understanding could guess.
The fuck you're talking about? I read the doujin in your "oh so benevolent" alternative, that has nothing to do with the fact that you fucking idiots over reacted to stuff that wasn't even there.
And how is accessing sad panda "a basic function" do you think i't basic because it uses cookies to block you? Do you feel smart and clever for following instructions and browsing that site? Or from where are you drawing your massive missleaded ego?
You're right in something, no mater what you do or say, retards like yorself won't understand anything and will question and attack you for the stupidest reasons.
>u didn't understtod, you shold had readed it on pixiv, u r stupider than u culd guess!

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>>1831979
Being able to understand the step-by-step tutorials for accessing it is a meter of intelligence. A very low one, and you still failed to pass it.
But your tantrum is at least entertaining, faggot.

>>1831974
Doubt it, Murata only draws lolis.

>> No.1832023

>>1832016
>over reacted to stuff that wasn't even there.
But everything that i quoted was there, also yes i usually expect people to have a basic understanding of the things that they are using,
if you knew the first thing about it you would have guessed on your own why you can't access it and how to access it, yet you couldn't even do it
following basic instructions.

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>>1832016
Whoa re you quoting?
And, besides, you are the only one overreacting, the swearing is a pretty good indication of it.

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>>1832020
Hey asswhipe, I did every step as told, several times, are you unable to read or what?
Or do you also expect me to fix whatever is wrong with my pc?

>> No.1832029

>>1832024
> the swearing is a pretty good indication of it.
>>1831150
>>1831209

>> No.1832032

>>1832027
>Or do you also expect me to fix whatever is wrong with my pc
Of course not, you better take it to your technician and ask him to fix it because you can't access a porn site about drawings.

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>>1832032
Nice rebutal DR. Hominem, completely avoiding the point and mocking me, this clearly absolves your idiocy on the matter.

>> No.1832041

>>1832040
And what was the point that you did every step and still not got in? have you thought that maybe you didn't do it right?
Also why were you mad again? how did this conversation even got this far? please just stop already.

>> No.1832043

>>1832027
>Hey asswhipe, I did every step as told, several times, are you unable to read or what?
And considering everyone else has no problem accessing, the logical conclusion is that the problem lies with you.

>> No.1832044
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>>1832029
If you really think that "retard" is a swear, please go back to Tumblr, where you belong.

>> No.1832047

>>1832044
Why are you surprised? you should remember that this is one of the boards with the biggest non 4chan population.

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>>1832041
The point is that you're calling me out for "being a retard" when I did everything you say I didn't do.
>have you thought that maybe you didn't do it right?
Of course I have, that's why I repeated the steps several times ya dingus.

>> No.1832053

>>1832044
Anything can be a swear if used to insult people, in this conversation, "retard" is being used as an insult, you retard.
>lern2logic
>>1832043
Yeah, because isolated problems don't exists

>> No.1832055

i have a pixiv related question.
i used to navigate through pixiv.com, but now that it shut down i'll have to get used to the main site. anyone know how to adjust my feed to only show artists submissions? I don't need to see all there favorites, as some guys make quite a lot of them in a short timespan.
in general i want my feed to be set up in rows and columns again just like my bookmarks.
this can't be a premium thing, can it?

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>>1832047
I am not surprised, I am disappointed.

>>1832048
He didn't call you a retard, it was I who called you retard.
Retard.

>> No.1832059

>>1832048
Have you thought that maybe you repeated them wrong? do you even understand what you're doing and why?

>Yeah, because isolated problems don't exists
In this case no they dont, there are only two ways a site can know that he tried to access it without an account and he clearly
doesn't understand how to clean his identity, but i guess sometimes it's for the better.

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>>1832057
Well, now you understand why you are the retard, retard.
Still don't get it? re-read the conversation lazy faggot.
By the way , Im no from tumblr nor anywhere else, it's just that I don't browse the rest of 4chan, just this place.
> mfw dissapointed of /ic/ because some random dude can't acces ex-hentai.

>> No.1832069

>>1832066
>Im no from tumblr nor anywhere else, it's just that I don't browse the rest of 4chan,
You should go then, you will feel right at home.

>> No.1832070

>>1832059
I made an account at the end and still couldn't access.
It's just not worth the secrecy and filtering if the stuff can be found anywhere else.

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>>1832069
You should try too, I've heard it's a wonderful place for stupid people with idiotic notions of intelligence.

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>>1832066
I am disappointed in people thinking that "retard" is a swear word, now your lack of comprehension shows.
And your being new to 4chan shows as well, please google how to use "mfw" correctly next time.

>>1832070
Did you delete the first exhentai cookie afterwards? You still won't be able to access it even with the account if you won't do it.
I would explain to you how to delete a single cookie and which one, but I will need to know what browser you use.

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>>1832076
>I've heard it's a wonderful place for stupid people with idiotic notions of intelligence.
>posts picture straight from Tumblr

My gods, you are a really entertaining person.

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this thread is very funny to read

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>>1832078
>not understanding that anything can be swearing regardless of the intrinsic nature of the word
Gay is not a swear yet it can be used as one, "cracker" means cookie yet it can be used as "nigger" with white people, redneck is a strictly offensive term yet it can mean just that, a red neck, it all lies in the context.
http://dictionary.reverso.net/english-synonyms/swear
>new to 4 chan
>mfw wrongly used
lel

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>>1832080
>google images doesn't bring up tumblr results
An image with a tumblr url can only mean I browsed and downloaded it directly from tumblr.
Pretty sharp thinking man, any other clever assumptions you want to share?

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>>1822729

>> No.1832102

>>1832095
So the artists that you believe have great draftsmanship come from google searches? what are you searching for, cool anime pictures?

>> No.1832108
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>>1832102
No? I search the artists by name, yoh yoshinari and Pyeongjun Park gave me those images.
Jesus man, what are you trying to prove now?

>> No.1832113

>>1832108
Nothing, i am not the person you were talking to, i just find it strange that you need google to find works of your supposedly favourite artists.

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>>1832113
Maybe he changed his computer and doesn't have anything saved on the new one?
He's not very computer literate as this thread shows, so I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't know how to back up the files.

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>>1832113
oh, ok.
I feel It's easier to type in what artist works you're looking for and set the image size to large, also you get to discover new artists with related results.
>>1832118
Not at all, I just don't like having or using website accounts to track people's work, it's not like I strictly use google to get my stuff, and not all artists have specific websites to be followed anyway.
>You couldn't acces ex-hentai, you can't use a computer at all.
s-stop it you guys

>> No.1832122

>>1832118
Even then i am surprised people don't have actual sources for their favourite artists, some people even posted samples, they are really cute.
My little /ic/ can't be this technologically retarded.

>> No.1832126

>>1832122
>you use google to find images?! lol, this means you don't have official sources from your favorite artists!
What is ithis now? assumption shit fest or what?

>> No.1832130

>>1832126
>Even though i follow my favorite artists and i have files with the biggest resolutions i choose to save samples and random google results.

>> No.1832137

>>1832130
And what artist would that be? and what site is he on? Yoh Yoshinari's deviant art doesn't have many of his works, Pyeongjun Park's cghub is down (duh), or what samples are you talking about?

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>only one or two good pics in whole thread
I really expected more.

>> No.1832144

>>1832140
>my taste>your taste

>> No.1832145

>>1832137
I don't know, figure it out yourself it's not my favorite artist.
>or what samples are you talking about
>>1823822

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>>1832144
It's my subjective opinion of course, but anyway...

>> No.1832164

>>1832140
And you did not post one of them, so...

>> No.1832167

>>1832140
>>1832146
I am more turned on by the rendering and coloring, delicious

>> No.1832171

>>1832140
and which ones would that be?
which ones are the good images itt?

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>> No.1832196

>>1832195
Hello Magister.

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>>1832196
I don't know what "Magister" is a reference to, but hi.

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There are some people with really low standards in this thread i tell you hwhat

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>>1832214
Can you please point out who they are? I really want to know in case there's something wrong with art that I posted.
It might help me know that I take inspiration from the wrong sources, for example.

>> No.1832227

>>1832205
I am not sure if you are being serious, but if you are finding some shitposter form /jp/ a high draftsmanship artist then you must have started drawing yesterday.

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>>1832214
Yah, like ur mum.

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>>1832227
I don't know what your cunny is all sore over, but I'm going to keep image-dumping for my own amusement while you keep shit-posting, k?

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>> No.1832238

>>1832195
...m-muh dick...

>> No.1832242
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>> No.1832256

>>1832238
Say it with a want, a strong desire not like a whimpering ...oh m-m-muh d-d-dick... it's MUH DICK!!! fucking softie.

>> No.1832257

some people really don't understand the difference between their brain and their dicks.

>> No.1832258

>>1832048
this thumbnail at a quick glance looks like boobs are front and center... was disappointed when i clicked.

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>>1832257

>> No.1832266
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1832266

i like this artist

>> No.1832267

>>1832233
I am just amazed at the fact that you posted some amateur hobbyist that doesn't even begin to understand
fundamentals along with professional artist, you don't even seem to understand the difference.

>> No.1832271

>>1832267

post your shit or stop talking shit

>> No.1832277

>>1832271
>asking for a d/ic/k measuring contest

kek

>> No.1832280

>>1832277
Not him but I would also like to see your work

>> No.1832281

>>1832280
Shit nigga I'm not even the guy who was even challenged.

I...I just like throwing the term
>d/ic/k measuring contest
around

>> No.1832283

>>1832271
You just posted some hobbyist from the /jp/ draw threads in a thread that you are supposed to post the best of draftsmanship in anime,
your taste can't get more shit than that, and your personal skill level also since you can't realize how bad it is..

>> No.1832286

>>1832283
cool story, bro.

>> No.1832290

>>1832283

Yeah and I bet you aren't better than him.

>> No.1832293

>>1832290
I think the point is every other artist posted in this thread is better than him. Sure he might be better than the average ic poster but he doesn't come close to the other stuff we're seeing in this thread.

Besides, people on /ic/ always shittalk and criticize people above their skill level, sometimes its valid, sometimes its not.

>> No.1832301

>the worst things I ever drew, that I made 5-6 years ago still circle around the internet
Jesus christ.

The internet really does immortalize your shame.

>> No.1832306

>>1832301
I know you're neither of these, I see through your ruse.

>> No.1832315

>>1832286
>>1832290
not that guy, but he's right.
why the fuck would you post magister in this thread. you might as well add teal to that.
i'm actually surprised it took that long for these kind of tits&ass artists to get posted.
not saying that that image is the only image that doesn't fit with this thread, but still

>> No.1832318

>>1832315
imo, your image doesn't fit in this thread.
whatever it is.

>> No.1832323

>>1832318

I know exactly what his image is.

>> No.1832324

>>1832306
It's hands down the worst image in this thread, so nothing unbelievable about it. Even you could do better, anon, I'm sure of it.

>> No.1832325

>>1832324
Nice try.

>> No.1832329

>>1832325
Maybe you're right.

Maybe it's better this way.

It's definitely not me. I'd never draw that. Thank you for lifting this weight off my shoulders, anon. After all these years, I'm finally free.

>> No.1832332

>implying magister has improved

>> No.1832333

>>1832048
this is the worst image in this thread, because it doesn't even have anime girl in it.

>> No.1832436

>>1832266
The thumbnail looked like a shiny,oiled ass.

>> No.1832440

>>1830765
google the meaning of anime and google the meaning of asian art and you shall be enlighened.Now go ,my son.Go and spread the word of rational thinking

>> No.1832443

>>1825043
Use iqdb or saucenao

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>> No.1832448

So what's the best way to learn how to draw moe girls? A lot of the guides here are for realism art.

>> No.1832453

>>1832448

Learning how to draw realistic cute girls first is key to drawing all the moe crap you want.

Check the art book thread out and download some anime books for reference.

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>anime

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>>1832448
You must first draw like this, to be able to draw good moe

>> No.1832786

>>1832271
You sound like a fucking child. Go back to deviantart you autist.

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>>1831423
>what is shoulder

>> No.1832928

>>1832921
Its being covered by the jacket you fuckwit.

>> No.1832964

>>1832928
fug.
can I blame artist for making it so confusing?

>> No.1832969

>>1832964

Yea, probably.

>> No.1832978

>>1832964

I looked at it and thought it was obvious. How else would it just be floating there?

>> No.1832987

>>1832964
Of course. Who else would you blame?

>> No.1832991

>>1832987
obama

>> No.1832993

>>1832991
But anon, Obama painted that.

>> No.1833131

>>1832993

gawd damn Obama , why you so perfect !

>> No.1833138

>>1830813
Comic LO makes me so obscenely angry. The comics could trick you into thinking it's a easygoing slice of life manga, maybe with some kids at school.

But no, it's garbage pedoshit.
Waste of talent.

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>>1822729

>> No.1833142

>>1833138
If it makes you feel better, at least Shou seems to have taken to drawing non-pedo non-porn. Shame about him being a fuckwit and getting caught tracing on the first attempt, but Stretch seems to be going well.

...is he still doing porn, though?

>> No.1833158

>>1830478
>People on /ic/ still believe this shit

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>>1830403

>> No.1833390

>>1833139
chin makes her look a bit 'tarded

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>>1833388

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>>1833398
also if you didnt know it, yoshinari you has a deviant art profile, link's in the filename

>> No.1833406

>>1822729
>I'm curious as to what anons consider draftmanship in animu.
In anime? Itself?
I care a lot about animation in animu, so posting a pic wouldn't do much good.

>> No.1833435

>>1833390
"Pointy chin" (tm) sycra

>> No.1833438

>>1833138
Considering that the are now on their 126 volume and other porn comics die at volume 10, while also counting the numbers of pirated
downloads of people who cant or dont want to buy them, the artists at LO get a pretty good exposure and appreciation so it's hardly a waste of
talent if you ask me. What i considered a waste of talent is porn artist who are very good at what they do, wanting to no matter what to do something
non porn and fail hard at it, like takeda hiromitsu who half abandoned his porn career and instead of producing his great quality porn is now producing
a weak at best ecchi manga. Just because someone is a good illustrator or porn artist doesnt mean that he would do a good job going away from porn.

>> No.1833454

>>1833438
lel, only someone who only cares about hentai could say that.
it's always better for an artist to make actual manga. i doubt he is forced to make one. of course it's going to be harder. people wlll actually care wether it's intersting or not.

>> No.1833462

>>1833454
I never said that he was forced to make on, quite the opposite he forced himself to do it because he wanted to but he is not cut for it, and i don't care only about hentai but i care as much as i do for other entertainment
Sectors. For me and i think for many others, hentai is a sexual entertainment, far more than a substitute for sex, we can enjoy all kinds
of taboo that we cant or dont want to do in life behind the safety glass of our fantasy, and we can experience interesting sexual scenarios and unrealistic fetishes. I like my porn
to be good, and so my other entertainment, the mentality that an artist cannot be respected if he only does porn is a very dangerous one that causes great
artist to go out of their way unnecessarily, thankfully it's not that appeared in japan, as pretty much everyone does porn.

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>>1833462
please, not this "freedom porn" shit again. why the fuck are some of you so insecure about this shit?

nobody said they can't be respected. i like tons of artists and their work as well as their skill.
i'm just saying, as far as ambition goes, serializing your own manga is always a step higher than making short stories, H or not.

>> No.1833473

>>1833468
Porn artists has some sort of complex about their art not being as legit as not-porn art.

>> No.1833477

>>1833468
>nobody said they can't be respected
The conversation starte just like that. >>1833138
Also if his manga is going to be shit and his short H stories actually good, he'd rather make shor H stories.
What's the point of doing something that he can't do right while abandoning the one thing you he actually produces right?

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>>1833477
well that guy who mentioned LO wasn't me. i just replied to your point where you're saying he should make H because he is "better" at it.
In the end he can do what he wants to.
yould you say the same thing to tosh? his manga is successful and pretty good as well.

the retarded thing is, hiromitsu wants to make manga. he isn't forced to do so. and here you are, saying he should limit himself to porn.
with people like you i always feel this vibe of "porn 4 life" mentality. porn isn't all there is. some people would like to weigh their options.

>> No.1833493

>>1833490
Never said it its, i just said that artist should stick to what they are truly creative at without thinking of outside pressure as that guy was saying
and that was my point, like artist who draw very creative doujins at comikets and then go back to draw boring things for money because wani
won't publish their things and they want to be published by a big name to get well known and get money, i am not saying that they should stick to porn
or non porn, i am saying that i'd rather have few artists doing non porn things but doing them good, or few artist doing porn but doing it good, what
that guy was saying is that people should stop doing porn and sould all do non porn works because its a waste of talent, and many artists actually fall for that
first making it into the industry by porn because that's what they love, and then seeing that no matter how good they get or how much they work on it they will never
be as respected and as famous as non porn artist, so they try to force switch to that, that's what i am saying is bad, of course i don't know hiromitsu personally and why
he did it, it was an example to my point.

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>>1833493
you're making a lot of assumptions. and they're very biased too.
you assume that they
>are "good" at doing H because they love it
>they are "baited" into making non H things and are bad because they don't love it
i'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with love at all.
the truth is, non-porn works are just harder to make. with porn you'll always have the sex, (and with that, you pretty much have the climax of the story!) and you can escalate the sex it in many directions to keep the readers attention. in the end it's mostly about the sex, and the fact that characters can actually have sex. there is nothing overly creative about that. especially when it comes to hiromitsu, i wouldn't say that he is very creative. his manga is generic, and his H is actually pretty generic as well.
you have to be careful when comparing H to normal manga, because your sex drive will always make the H seem better than it is.

also again, i have to bring up tosh: you think he would be this good at making shonen manga if he didn't actually like or care about what he was doing? his approach seems pretty fun and easygoing if you look at the way he does some of the scenes.

and again, i'm not the guy who mentioned comic LO. it's never a waste of talent to draw any kind of comic.
that's why i don't agree with you either when you say "it's a waste of talent to make H artists do serialized manga". that's just the same kind of bullshit.
You only consider it a waste of talent because as it turns out, hiromitsu can't make anything interesting if there is no sex going on. you couldn't make that point if the manga was actually good. in the end you're just bitter because he "betrayed" your most beloved niche.
you should start caring about something other than porn, seriously.

>> No.1833518

>>1833493
>then seeing that no matter how good they get or how much they work on it they will never
be as respected and as famous as non porn artist
So if a porn artist actually has a goal that he want to draw meaningful shit, he shouldn't do so because he's better at doing porn?

I seriously doubt that any porn artist is truly satisfied with only doing porn. Most people has a story they want to share and it's kinda hard to make that come through in porn only.

>> No.1833536

>>1833517
>>1833518
>So if a porn artist actually has a goal that he want to draw meaningful shit, he shouldn't do so because he's better at doing porn?
No i never said that, i sad that if an artist loves porn he should not be forced out of it because of the market and people's opinions.

>in the end you're just bitter because he "betrayed" your most beloved niche.
Hiromitsu was just an example that first came to mind, he never even drew my fetishes.

>"it's a waste of talent to make H artists do serialized manga
Yes to make someone do non H either by social pressure or personal one while he's doing good as an H artist without having any exceptional reasons to do it on his own just so his name
won't stuck in the 18+ section can be a waste of potential in my opinion.

>> No.1833538

>>1833536
If you already began drawing and selling porn, I doubt you'd even give a shit about social or personal pressures.

Porn artists moving to non-porn is really common because as I said in my post before, many people has stories they want to tell, but they don't always involve sex.

>> No.1833549

>>1833538
Its good if it really works that way, then again why do only porn artists jump ships to non H while you almost never see
the reverse happening? It's also very interesting to see how some artists struggle with smart censorship and try their best to maintain
their basically porn work in the non H section even if it involves actual sex, the porn industry is a lot more mistreated than the non porn one, that's for sure.

>> No.1833568

>>1833549
>while you almost never see the reverse happening
You won't see it because the people who do usually works under a pen name.
Fanservice is in mangos cause it sells, the reason they never go over the sex line is because it would need an 18+ rating which would hurt the sales.

Fanservice doesn't automatically mean the author really likes to draw it.

>> No.1833577

>>1833536
>he should not be forced out of it because of the market and people's opinions.
> to make someone do non H either by social pressure or personal one

again.
you are assuming that they are forced to do it. they are simply NOT.
they want to do it because in the end, having people read and follow your comic is more of an achievement than making people horny with your drawings.
look at it like this: people who like drawing in general, and like drawing sexy girls might be very satified with doing porn and nothing else.
but people who actually care about COMICS, grew up with them and read them all the time probably wouldn't be satisfied with only making porn all the time.

you don't get it because you don't read much manga. obviously, since you are just another pornfag.
i can't stand seeing your type on /ic/. i can tell by the way you're writing that your understanding of "animu art" is DIRECTLY linked to lewd art. you probably post about porn, tits, dicks and ass way more than you do about any other art related subject. because that's the only thing you care about.

>Hiromitsu was just an example that first came to mind, he never even drew my fetishes.
and yet you fault him for doing an ecchi manga

>>1833549
you don't see it happening because why would you.
like i said, one type likes drawing girls and lewd things, and the other type likes manga in general.
why would the latter type start drawing porn for no reason? of course in reality it'S not quite that black and white, but this is just an example.

also, you do see artists do that under different pennames. but none of the big names do that

>> No.1833580

>>1833568
I am not talking about casual fanservice i am talking about that ecchi work everyone at some point read where the characters are clearly having sex but it's heavily censored and
almost implied and then it goes back to heavy fanservice again so it won't fall to the ero categorie, that's part of what i don't like, it would be better if artist would draw exactly what they
visioned, but it's true that they have to consider if their art is going to be viewed as porn or not.

>you are assuming that they are forced to do it. they are simply NOT.
And you are assuming the opposite.

>you don't get it because you don't read much manga. obviously, since you are just another pornfag.
While you seem to talk about porn with some kind of hate, i said some time above that i care about art and entertainment in general,
i just like eromanga with the same passion as non ero onsen and i don't see them as lesser works when they deserve it.

>and yet you fault him for doing an ecchi manga
Because his manga is so bad that to my eyes it's almost an excuse of him not wanting to be just a porn artist anymore and thinking just because he made some illustrations worth masturbating to
that he was a good manga artist.

>> No.1833761

>>1823016
>>1823027
if you morons care so much about realism why don't you look into photography?

>> No.1833764

>>1833761
Sure if all you want to paint is wrinkly old men, but if you want to paint something that doesn't exist, photography isn't really an option.

>> No.1833766

>>1833764
But if it didn't exist, it wouldn't be realistic.

>> No.1833767

>>1833766
this post is unrealistic

>> No.1833770

>>1833761
a camera actually distorts perspective in ways that a human eye doesn't

photos simply aren't realistic enough for us

>> No.1834650

>>1832964
>That disgustingly bad tangent
Yeah, you can.

>> No.1834930

>>1832220
Asians don't have blue eyes, chink.

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>> No.1835897

>>1829886

>he has literally never in his life seen another 23 pic
>You must always show hands even when it doesn't communicate information in case some massive no-life turbo shitlord complains about it!

>> No.1836140

>>1826153
it's a woman in her late twenties