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[Anonymous No.1812254]

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Post your current drawing here and give constructive critiques to others!
Please make sure your posted image is clear and is under 1500 x 1500 pixels in size.
If you want critique on a drawing from the previous thread, you can delete it there and repost in this one.

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[Anonymous No.1812257]

>>1812254
OP wants to hear an opinion on whether to continue this or start something new <3

[Anonymous No.1812261]

I painted a skull today. It's an improvement from a year and a half go

[Anonymous No.1812278]

>>1812254
something I'm working on... Any help? Is for a client.

[Anonymous No.1812283]

>>1812278
Is that a cross between a cobra and a dragon?
That's the fucking coolest thing I've ever seen.

[Anonymous No.1812292]

>>1812278
cool design on the creature

[Anonymous No.1812298]

Can I get some advice on the leg placement in this drawing?
Any other critiques are appreciated as well, of course.

[Anonymous No.1812299]

>>1812278
Really cool. Do you have title placement, etc. all figured out yet? If not, get on that.
And maybe make the peak that is nearer the viewer a bit larger (but not higher.)

[Anonymous No.1812301]

>>1812298
Given the torso, that right thigh wouldn't be visible.

[Anonymous No.1812302]

>>1812261
The hole in the forehead seems a bit superficial. Try to render the inside edges of the hole a bit more to give a better sense of depth.
>>1812257
Flesh it out a bit more, and then start something new. I feel like the composition is a bit to pedestrian or limited to be worth putting a huge amount of time into.

[Anonymous No.1812304]

>>1812301
Understood. Thanks.
After I get rid of the right thigh, would increasing the size of the left leg and shifting it a bit to the right make sense?

[Anonymous No.1812309]

>>1812298
Did you draw out her entire body before putting the water over her? How deep is that tub?

[Anonymous No.1812314]

>>1812309
I did. Not that deep.
Here's a fairly limited collection of the undersketches I made that didn't get deleted/painted over. Most of the issues I had had to do with my lack of experience with extreme foreshortening.

[Anonymous No.1812316]

just a quick one done really late last night

[Anonymous No.1812326]

spooky sketch before ebdtime

[Anonymous No.1812354]

>>1812283
>>1812292
thank you guys...
>>1812299
No idea about the title... to be honest I think I'm a horrible option for cover art but, well... I'm getting paid for it. As it is now, I think the bottom would make a good place for tittle and such.

[Anonymous No.1812417]

the wonky knight started to bother me aswell. also it's crazy how the last 10% of an image take up 75% of total working time.

[Anonymous No.1812424]

Some doodles from experimenting with a pixel brush with no pen sensitivity. How does it look?
>>1812417
right now my eyes are drawn to the to the super rendered platform at the top of the stairs instead of the cloaked figure

[Anonymous No.1812425]

>>1812424

[Anonymous No.1812429]

Filling as much as possible with drawings from head. reduced it's size though.

[Anonymous No.1812430]

>>1812417
stop blurring the foreground,either use a brush to give it soft edges, or just let it be pulled out with value.
It reeks of a blurring filter and its distracting.

[Anonymous No.1812432]

>>1812430
>It reeks of a blurring filter

Why would this be a bad thing though? It obviously is a blurring filter but, who cares? Just wondering.

[Anonymous No.1812436]

>>1812432
Because it looks hokey and cheesy? Because you can do better than that?

[KJKallio !OTcb98yDKo No.1812485]

Ok so here is the finished version of the painting, a lot was learned.

[Anonymous No.1812497]

>>1812485
I did a small adjustment to your piece. Work on emphasizing important details through value

[Anonymous No.1812498]

>>1812497
>muh contrast

Not everything needs to have deep blacks anon, you're making the image much more severe than it needs to be

[Anonymous No.1812499]

Guess what book I just got.

[Anonymous No.1812500]

>>1812498
>muh contrast
>implying contrast isn't one of the most important staples of painting
I exaggerated the darks to make a point that contrast and leading the eye with value is important.

[Anonymous No.1812501]

>>1812497
naw dude

[Anonymous No.1812504]

>>1812500
nah ah, you took a sledgehammer to a surgery bro.

[Anonymous No.1812505]

>>1812504
ok

[Anonymous No.1812507]

>>1812497
nonono mate just look at them both side by side,
originals got this jolly mood
yours too gritty dark imo although forms read a bti better in yours
>>1812485
great i can smell the wet grass of the underbrush

[Anonymous No.1812525]

>>1812507
diddnt know, armor and killing utencils were jolly...

[Anonymous No.1812528]

Wow everyone here are so good, how is mine? :s

[Anonymous No.1812529]

Wow everyone here are so good, how is mine? :s
It's a wip obviously.

[Anonymous No.1812531]

>>1812525
you didn't know a rabbit riding a guinea pig in a joust was jolly?

[Anonymous No.1812532]

>>1812525
You didn't know you can dictate the mood of a painting regardless of the subject matter? Wow, you must really suck at this.

[Anonymous No.1812535]

>>1812485
Do you post your new stuff anywhere or is it because you haven't worked on anything else but work-related things lately? Are you even working atm?

[Anonymous No.1812558]

>>1812261
you've still got work to do!
but it's very nice to see the progress you've made, I find these kind of images inspirational

[Anonymous No.1812560]

just started texturing a low poly axe

[Anonymous No.1812566]

>>1812560
what's the point of low poly if you're going to use huge frickin texture maps.

[Anonymous No.1812568]

>>1812566
it's 1024x1024
how's that huge?

[Anonymous No.1812569]

>>1812568
it's maaaasive. 256x256 is correct for low poly

[Anonymous No.1812570]

>>1812569
>>1812560
>>>/3/

[Anonymous No.1812577]

>>1812569
alright! thank you
>>1812570
>>>/mlp/

[Anonymous No.1812579]

hi /ic/, newfag here. still working out the kinks with new drawing tablet. i use SAI, any advice?

[Anonymous No.1812580]

>>1812579
of course, i forgot my pic

[Anonymous No.1812587]

>>1812254
I was going to make some sort of weird abstract background for the create a waifu thread but i ended up making this instead

[Anonymous No.1812614]

Would be someone kind to help me with this? Redline maybe? Feels somewhat odd...

[Anonymous No.1812616]

>>1812302
Will do
>>1812558
Yea lots still to do but I'm happy I'm getting somewhat better

[Anonymous No.1812618]

i hate inking hair, it always comes out looking so lifeless and stiff
anyone know how to help with that?

[Anonymous No.1812621]

>>1812614
too inexperienced to redline it.
but it feels like there should be more weight on the right leg (from our pov)

[Anonymous No.1812628]

https://www.picarto.tv/live/channel.php?watch=junmund

Streaming again

[Anonymous No.1812631]

>>1812614
should be more like something like this, she's looking too short compared to her head.

[Anonymous No.1812634]

>>1812429
Nice. The linework and forms seem very sound. Got any color work? A lot of times I see folks on here with great values and line work, but then shit on everything with their colors.

[Anonymous No.1812638]

>>1812485
I've been following this piece since it's first WIP. Great job on pushing the saturation and colors. Looks great!

[Anonymous No.1812664]

>>1812634
no unfortunetly i don't, I have a very bad time translating my lines in colors or hard values. Even though i can pretty much draw anything from head after seeing it once, it doesn't work with colors at all. I can only do simple things, and they look very basic. I'm working on it though

>pic related, difference between my color/value

i gotta say too, painting isn't really my priority.

[Anonymous No.1812685]

>>1812621
>>1812631
thank you guys!

[Anonymous No.1812686]

>>1812664
perhaps your coloring is lacking because you are mainly drawing faces and therefore kinda stuck in your comfort zone?

[Anonymous No.1812694]

>>1812560
some progress

[Anonymous No.1812698]

>>1812694
still 1024x1024
you might aswell reduce its size to 512x512 because that's the maximum size it will have for low poly. when you reduce the size you will probably stumble upon a bunch of issues with detail being too small or just not visible.

[Anonymous No.1812699]

>>1812664
You'll need to develop a basic sense of colors at some point, even if 'painting isn't a priority'. It's important to becoming a more well rounded artist. Lot's of people can do really nice, tight line work, but it's the people who have a profound sense of color that really enjoy much more success. It's harder to do, and less people bother with properly understanding it.

Just as you have been practicing your faces, I really recommend you start practicing some colors. You have a lot to learn based off that example - and that's okay - just take it back to the basics. To start, remember that a darker value of a color is not necessarily a more black version of the same color.

Again - don't constrain yourself by just doing line work. I'm not seeing a whole lot of understanding of values either, so I think this might be a good point to start focusing on other fundamentals.

Good luck!

[Anonymous No.1812706]

>>1812698
well, it's not really about making a great low-poly axe.
it's more about practicing my painting and creating detail from the texture rather than modelling it!
I will keep the size in mind though, so thank you for the tip

[Anonymous No.1812747]

>>1812618
Might be that you're using too slow strokes to ink it. Hair especially tends to look best when done in quick, long, loose strokes, not short and neat ones.
You're working digitally, so you don't have to worry about ruining the picture with a bad or too long line.

[Anonymous No.1812769]

Been working on an image
my tablet shit the bed so im working with a mouse, Id have to say its actually very interesting. I end up staring at the image, contemplating, thinking more about each decision made.

I think once my tablet is fixed things will work out better than before...maybe who knows.

[Anonymous No.1812771]

>>1812664
Your colors look lifeless because, as >>1812699 mentioned, you're just using a darker version of the same color for shadows (and a lighter one for highlights) when in reality there would be nuances of colors from the surroundings in them.
I'm an ESL so I have a hard time explaining this well. It has to do with how light works, so I would recommend looking up a good tutorial on how light influences color.

That aside, it's also a good idea to think of a general color scheme for your picture before you start.

[Anonymous No.1812781]

i shat out some beauties today
30 mins each x 4

[Anonymous No.1812782]

[Anonymous No.1812784]

>>1812769
This is getting good

Dont fuck this up anon

[Anonymous No.1812785]

the last 2 went pretty badly, couldnt find any good ideas

[Anonymous No.1812786]

eh

[Anonymous No.1812787]

some left overs- not timed
the ones on the right are from imagination

[Anonymous No.1812791]

>>1812614
I'd say she looks a bit unbalanced. Can't put my finger on it, though.
>>1812631
Still didn't quite fix it.

[Anonymous No.1812797]

>>1812354
Thinking about changing the kid's gesture. It feels a bit odd... Also, any suggestion regarding the cobra's left wing?

[Anonymous No.1812803]

>>1812797
I'm a little curious as to why it's wings are spread, considering it looks like it's just resting there, wouldn't it have the wings to its side?

And what sort of emotion is the kid supposed to be feeling? Shock? Curiosity? it's not too clear at the moment.

[Anonymous No.1812810]

>>1812769
The lips aren't quite lined up with the center line, and look like they're being forced to the side of the face that the viewer sees. I think you need to take a little more care to show the lips from the underside, as they look more like they're level with the viewer when the rest of the head isn't (I think it's mainly the lower lip).

I'm thinking you intended to make the zygomatic arch more pronounced and protruding, but instead it looks like the front bottom of the zygomatic bone is severely underdeveloped and caved-in. Don't forget that you need to visually account for the muscles that attach to this bone from the underside that fills in the face.

[Anonymous No.1812817]

>>1812803
Curiosity I guess. The wings are spread mostly because that's how I imagined it, I think it makes it a little more interesting visually.

[Anonymous No.1812823]

>>1812769
I tried a quick one of these for fun. I don't think I learned anything because I just scribbled it instead of thinking about the strokes.

[Anonymous No.1812826]

>>1812784

Working with a mouse so it's pretty hard to goof up

>>1812810
praise be to he who gave a shit
thanks dude awesome critique! Will fix shit!

>>1812823
working with a mouse? for me its just alot of contemplating and thinking about how I can change things, I think maybe try it on a more advanced piece of yours?

[Anonymous No.1812828]

>>1812817
It makes the beast look a little more alarmed at the boys presence, so if that's what you were going for, then it's fine. I think the kids balance is a little odd is all, try a few poses and see which one you like most.

[Anonymous No.1812832]

>>1812618
I'm not an inker myself, no no advice on that, I just want to say that your lines are awesome. Did you use the pen tool or something?

[Anonymous No.1812838]

~4 days tinkering

Really awful with colours so i did a value study first. no trace just guidelines. Got a lot more experience from this, but i still didn't nail the likeness. Wasn't as careful with the hair cause i just wanted it done. i probably overworked this.

[Anonymous No.1812840]

last update for the night.
played around with some chippings and grunge on the blade

[Anonymous No.1812845]

>>1812628
stream over here's some (slow) progress

>>1812787
The bottom left's tree is very nice

[KJKallio !OTcb98yDKo No.1812848]

Took a previous sketch a bit further, maybe something will come out of it.

[Anonymous No.1812865]

>>1812848
Eye placement is off. Flip the canvas or take a break and look at it again with fresh eyes. Otherwise looks really nice, the thumbnail reads great already.

[Anonymous No.1812871]

>>1812845
really like this so far

as for criticism, on one hand I feel like your colors are too dull and could use more variation, but on the other I think it actually works on this piece as it creates a somewhat lifeless, desolate look that seems appropriate for an abandoned outpost (man this sounds kinda backhanded but I do mean it in a positive way)
that said, you should probably push the values more, right now most of the different elements blend way too much into their surroundings

[Anonymous No.1812872]

>>1812781
I like this one. Appealing shapes and colours so far. This has potentials to make a nice scene.

[KJKallio !OTcb98yDKo No.1812881]

>>1812848
Thanks, will fix!

[KJKallio !OTcb98yDKo No.1812886]

>>1812865
Thanks, will fix!

[Anonymous No.1812887]

>>1812881
>replies "thanks!" to himself
are you always drunk?

[Anonymous No.1812891]

>>1812747
Well, I try to make quick lines but they come out too straight when I do that. Guess I need to practice being quick + loose, I'll try.

>>1812832
Aa, thanks. I'm using Sai with these brush settings (which I got from an artist on Tumblr named Skoptsy

[Anonymous No.1812900]

just meh

[Anonymous No.1812906]

agonyyyyyyyyyy

[Anonymous No.1812921]

>>1812906
Have you considered cropping it?

[Anonymous No.1812923]

I'm lacking in the fundamentals to make this into a finished image. Any advice on how to take it further?

I'm particulary having problem with the 'rails'

[Anonymous No.1812930]

>>1812923
>Any advice on how to take it further?
yeah, photobash some more.

[Anonymous No.1812931]

>>1812921

it works too, but i didn't want the illustration to be about the character. that's also why i was so reluctant to render him out, i was afraid he could become too important...

[Anonymous No.1812934]

>>1812923
extend the canvas horizontally and show more space. THink of logistics, add elevators, or stairs. Some generic sci fi floating cars down at the parking lot

[Anonymous No.1812985]

>>1812840
What's the point in this? It doesn't show a cool design or any information about the object. If the title wasn't wipaxe I wouldn't even have known it was an axe

[Anonymous No.1812993]

>>1812985
then you're a bit thick son

[Anonymous No.1813019]

Plotting out a piece, just putting together where everyone will be.

[Anonymous No.1813024]

Guess what videos I've been watching.

[Anonymous No.1813025]

>>1813019
Bodyguards are tall and bulky. unless you really want to make a sleazy dictator stand out and not the power he has, in which case the image works as well withou them and just add metal fences

[Anonymous No.1813028]

>>1813019
Feels like a hollywood star rather than a dictator. Not sure if the irony is intended.

[Anonymous No.1813030]

>>1812930
>t...there's no way this guy is better than me, it's all trickery and witchcraft!

[Anonymous No.1813033]

>>1813024
>Guess what videos I've been watching.
Shitty Safari

[Anonymous No.1813055]

>>1813019
very polished for a rough plotting out piece. Don't waste your effort.

[Anonymous No.1813065]

>>1813028
Bit of both.

>>1813025
Fair point I could stand to bulk them up a little.

[Anonymous No.1813114]

trying out some new stuff

[Anonymous No.1813116]

another two

[Anonymous No.1813117]

and then this one, which admittedly is kind of a mess

[Anonymous No.1813119]

>>1812906
this was good now its total shit

[Anonymous No.1813120]

>>1813024
casting couch?

[Anonymous No.1813122]

fast

[Anonymous No.1813125]

>>1812906
How long have you been working on this? I've seen it popping up here all week. It really shouldn't take so long, move on.

[Anonymous No.1813147]

>>1812254
I don't really post here that much so I mine as well post my latest piece. What do you all think?

[Anonymous No.1813158]

Recently started taking drawing more seriously and used Paint Tool Sai to make this. I have no idea how to make it more interesting/give it more dimension. For context, it's a Tokyo Ghoul-inspired drawing.

[Anonymous No.1813168]

>>1813158
>>1812962

[Anonymous No.1813169]

>>1813168
Ah, sorry about that. Will post in that thread! Thanks.

[Anonymous No.1813283]

>>1812828
how am I doing? Any help regarding the kid, I think it looks better than before but I think it can still improve.

[Anonymous No.1813309]

>>1813283
Darken the background behind the snake dragon guy to make him pop. He gets lost in the lighter values.

The red lines on his wing and mountain behind him are causing too much focus because they're exactly parallel. Same thing with the snake dragon's wing and it's tail.
The mountain in the background shoots out at an irregular sharp angle and is right beside the end of it's tail causing even more unwanted focus.
Same can be said of the sharp angle on the middle left of the rock formation it's on.
The red on the bottom is not clearly defined. So figure something out with that.
And finally, the green marks are too straight of lines. Make them interesting by breaking the line and shape. Experiment with it's silhouette.

[Anonymous No.1813323]

>>1813309
Thank you. Any idea for the frame rocks? I was thinking about just getting rid of them. Or would that leave too much empty space there?

[Anonymous No.1813329]

>>1813323
Don't take it out completely. You need a foreground element for scale and depth. Look at paintings from other artists and see what they did for a foreground element when the focal point was purely in the mid ground. It can be a number of things. Another story element, an inanimate object solely for composition's sake and leading the viewers eye to where it needs to go. Just make sure there's something covering that area or else the painting will lose a balance of weight and cause so much unwanted attention because it's just empty.

[Anonymous No.1813338]

I believe I have to go back to the very basics.

[Anonymous No.1813343]

How do I improve this?

Link to reference:

http://i.4cdn.org/ic/1407867524433.png

[Anonymous No.1813344]

welp

[Anonymous No.1813383]

still life

[Anonymous No.1813419]

>>1812254

[Anonymous No.1813423]

>>1813024
watching CP?

[Anonymous No.1813424]

>>1812497
just no

[Anonymous No.1813448]

sorry if this is annoying but I didn't want to start a new thread. I am doing a commission at the moment and I actually can't post the WIP as the figure is near completion and it is private (by request) so i have traced the silhouette... I was wondering what sort of background would go well with this figure, I am inspired by old oil portraits but she is dressed in contemporary clothing. I'm not even sure about the perspective and I'm overall having a bad time

[Anonymous No.1813458]

>>1812497

Too much contrast - the mark of a noob

[Anonymous No.1813462]

Scrapped my old brushes, testing out a set of more "painterly" ones.

[Anonymous No.1813465]

>>1813462

use the mixer brush. i always lol when people talk about brush sets, without taking into consideration the power of the mixer brush.

[Anonymous No.1813483]

>>1813465
how do

[Anonymous No.1813494]

>>1813483

just experiment. you'll figure it out.

[Anonymous No.1813527]

>>1812699
>>1812771

oh...yeah indeed this is what i do, thanks for the help, i'll try to train a lot on it now.

[Anonymous No.1813571]

>>1813465
>tfw painter had it for years

[Anonymous No.1813587]

>>1813344
Haven't got a lot to criticise here if this is the level of detail you wish to settle on.

The legs could use a little retouch. The gap between the two seems a little wide, or at the very least the right thigh (from our perspective) looks far too thin underneath compared to the rest of the leg. So does his upper arm on the same side. Left foot also appears to be pointing too far down at the tip unless he's actually positioning on an uneven surface.

And the facial expression. He looks worried or confused about something totally unrelated to his current situation. Like he just remembered that he missed an appointment. Or that he's overcome with paranoia about contracting an STD. At the very least he doesn't appear to be gazing with purpose.

[Anonymous No.1813633]

>>1813383
another still life with same objects

[Anonymous No.1813672]

[Anonymous No.1813682]

how do i zedig?

[Anonymous No.1813683]

>>1813633
how are you going about these, i put it to you that your methodology is flawed.

[Anonymous No.1813694]

>>1813683

I don't get it. What methodology are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.1813696]

>>1813694
the procedure you followed to create your picture.

like

1. open ps, ready canvas
2. choose fill color
3. draw guide-lines

etc.

i want to know what your procedure is so i can perhaps recommend you a better one, but perhaps not, that's why i want to know first. :)

[Anonymous No.1813697]

never thought i would actually enjoy rendering out characters.

[Anonymous No.1813699]

>>1813697
rendering is the chill part, i agreeg.

anyway looks nice. sweet values. perspectives a little fishy.

[Anonymous No.1813715]

>>1813696
1. opened ps, ready canvas
2. drew the grey parts with a big brush
3. drew guide-lines of objects
4.started painting colors

[Anonymous No.1813734]

>>1813697
Still working on this? Post the updated WIP. I gave you some color help that you said you liked so I'd love to see where it's at now.

[Anonymous No.1813739]

>>1813715
well then i put it to you that you should paint the background first, then the furthest away object, moving forward until you paint the closest.

not to a polished finish mind, but perhaps just a bit further than you have gone so far.

one object at a time. then at the end polish it all up, blending and such.

it's helpful to break a task down like that. i know many people including me would like to paint the whole painting at once but one 'color group' at a time is the usual and perhaps therefore smart way to go.

[Anonymous No.1813748]

>>1813338
>>1813343
sticky

[Anonymous No.1813759]

dumping my shitty ipad drawings.

go easy on me, i just started picking up drawing again

[Anonymous No.1813771]

[Anonymous No.1813805]

>>1813759
>>1813771
Stop using those foliage brushes. They are just going to hold you back.

[Anonymous No.1813810]

>>1813682
You've got to first learn how to draw and how light works. Then you can play around with his techniques, but until then it will look like a very flat cutout.

[Anonymous No.1813839]

>>1813734

will be posting wips nonstop during the next 6 hours probably. i applied alot of the advice subtly, and some i wrote on a little sticky note on my desktop, to see if i stillfelt that it applies as the piece comes together. thanks for the avice :)

>>1813699

i always yell at people to quit rendering, but i'm starting to see the appeal now i think... thanks! perspective wise it's only a small portion tho

[Anonymous No.1813846]

>>1812891
I had a slight heart attack when I saw your lines, they look a lot like Skoptsy's. I love your work so far, you're great at controlling the smoothness and pressure. Keep posting updates.

[Anonymous No.1813854]

>>1812781
>>1812782
>>1812785
>>1812786
>>1812787

hey man is this the result of your latest streaming session? solid stuff! muted palette appeals alot to me, and is incredibly hard to pull off... props for that. you should post more often.

[Anonymous No.1813856]

grumpy old bastard

[Anonymous No.1813857]

>>1813856
That cat has seen some shit

[Anonymous No.1813860]

>>1813633
Use a bigger brush, and try to have it as opaque as possible for your block-in. Establish the color of the environment too. What color is the table and the wall? Those colors will interact with the objects on your table and shift hues around a bit. Try it out for yourself. Paint a white cue ball that's resting on a red surface. Now paint one that's resting on a green surface, then finally one resting on a black surface.

Anything that's perceivable and isn't jet black is a light source (it omits or reflects light into your eye). It thus acts as a light source for other objects that are nearby.

[Anonymous No.1813864]

>>1812278
What kind of brush did you use to make that effect ?

[Anonymous No.1813892]

this is where i'm now. working out lot of compositional issues but it's really just damage control. gotta do thumbs lol...

[Anonymous No.1813899]

>>1813854
Im not this guy >>1812628 >>1812845
but I have been watching his stream.

It almost feels like a compliment to be mistaken for anon. however this muted palette is only proof of my incompetence in colour. probably my go-to colours; definitely comfort zone

im working on moving away from it, but I like that you like

[Anonymous No.1813903]

First day back in Uni, decided to doodle in my moleskine, and now I can't stop tinkering. Also, I can't place the fucking mouth for the life of me

[Anonymous No.1813909]

>>1812499
Heads and Hands?

[Anonymous No.1813916]

>>1812614
She looks like she's sitting on the edge of a large box. Swing her leg a bit more to the right, to make it look like she's standing completely up

[Anonymous No.1813930]

>>1813903
>Also, I can't place the fucking mouth for the life of me
I think it's because you made his entire jaw animu; extend the lower half of his face and your mouth placement will be fine.

[Anonymous No.1813994]

>>1813283
>>1813309
Moar progress...
>>1813864
something I downloaded I guess. It was on a brush pack I found on tumblr.

[Anonymous No.1813996]

Done with this Skull Kid portrait.

[Anonymous No.1813998]

Done with this Skull Kid portrait.

[Anonymous No.1814012]

>>1813998
Very nice. I'd buy a print of this.

[Anonymous No.1814021]

Today's study

[Anonymous No.1814023]

>>1814021
Nice, forearm looks weird, like a lumb. Maybe reinstate the foreshortening?

[Anonymous No.1814027]

>>1814021
very good;
ref pls

[Anonymous No.1814030]

>>1814021
blurry shit

[Anonymous No.1814034]

>>1814030
this guy is mad

[Anonymous No.1814038]

>>1814030

you are stupid as fuck. painting soft like that is incredibly hard and important to learn and apreciate.

[Anonymous No.1814039]

>>1814030
No he's right. it's very blurry and only looks good from a distance. Plus, the hands and arms are just blobs. Don't hide a lack of knowledge behind fancy techniques

[Anonymous No.1814053]

>>1814039

[Anonymous No.1814054]

>>1814023
isnt that only because the other arm is pushed against it?

[Anonymous No.1814062]

>>1813856
continued

[Anonymous No.1814083]

>>1814039
No, "he" is wrong. You can paint as soft as you like as long as you know what edges need to be sharp and in that painting, that is the case for the most part. Painting like this only becomes a problem when you ignore the sharpness of cast shadows and areas of high contrast and paint them with the same soft edges as the rest.

[Anonymous No.1814090]

>>1814039
Oh god please stop posting

[Anonymous No.1814091]

>>1814039
It's obvious that these soft forms in the hands and arms are still a WIP, you fucking dipshit.

[Anonymous No.1814103]

anyone fuckin with these?

[Anonymous No.1814110]

>>1814021
olly?

[Anonymous No.1814121]

>>1814038
>painting soft like that is incredibly hard
anon, pls. everything's hard for you.

[Anonymous No.1814186]

>>1814062
moving on to coloring next

[Anonymous No.1814191]

>>1814186
Very nice, though the muzzle looks a bit flat and it's bothering me.

[Anonymous No.1814309]

>>1814021
JANUS!!! JANUS!!! JANUS !!!JANUS!!! JANUS!! !JANUS!!!

[Anonymous No.1814311]

>>1814309
http://www.poocg.com/works/view/648971 作品发布于 2014-05-05 22:27

[Anonymous No.1814326]

>>1814021
ebin ruse

[Anonymous No.1814327]

Need thoughts

[Anonymous No.1814347]

proceeded to render the everloving crap out of this knight.

[Anonymous No.1814362]

>>1814347
where do you get your refs?

[Anonymous No.1814366]

>>1814362

flickr and tumblr mostly. i have waaay too much though, and i don't use it enough. didn't use any for this knight for instance.

[Anonymous No.1814367]

>>1814021
Very very nice, I feel like some parts are too soft and other shadows too sharp, but it's close. Blog?

Latest doodle/experiment. I have no idea how lips work.

[Anonymous No.1814368]

>>1814327
maybe a bit too slender, and the nose is a bit off. Other than that, it's pretty good

[Anonymous No.1814377]

meh...to lazy to continue..

[Anonymous No.1814378]

>>1812587
another generic sketch

[Anonymous No.1814381]

>>1814378
forgot to attach image

[Anonymous No.1814392]

how'd I do?

[Anonymous No.1814403]

>>1814377
>>1814392

I like these. There's emotion and action which draws me into them.

[Anonymous No.1814405]

>>1814366
you didnt? i want to get some knight photos :(

[Anonymous No.1814413]

>>1814392
idk if this is better but yea

[Anonymous No.1814438]

im trying
am i gonna make it
tips advice

[Anonymous No.1814440]

>>1814438
ref

[Anonymous No.1814446]

>>1814438

can you see that the boot is way too wide?

maybe try and practice more drawing from reference,
use proper measuring and angle checking techniques

[Anonymous No.1814450]

Been practicing on hands.Anything I can improve on?

[Anonymous No.1814451]

how do i make prettier hair

[Anonymous No.1814465]

Blocking stuff trying to get everything right before I start to render.

[Anonymous No.1814469]

Eh, no one said anything in the beginner thread but anyways, I feel like the elbows are kinda off and that the left arm looks a bit weird. The hair is also giving me some trouble. Any tips?

[Anonymous No.1814475]

Hey guys I dont know whats wrong with this drawing, if anyone could help me out it would be much appreciated.

[Anonymous No.1814479]

>>1814469
Well all I can offer about hair is to think of it as just one big mass, do not focus on showing individual strands.
Getting the dark, midtone and highlights down then adding some some strands here and there to give an illusion of hair, rather than doing strands individually which give the 'spaghetti hair' that is common in beginners.

I know there is a image macro floating around with more info but I don't have it, perhaps someone else could oblige.

[Anonymous No.1814484]

>>1814479
Hmm. I think I get it. Thanks, anon!

[Anonymous No.1814486]

>>1813994
I'm done with this... got paid 50 bucks for this!

[Anonymous No.1814493]

XK-2

Galactic War mecha which never made it past the design phase.

[Anonymous No.1814494]

hey again

[Anonymous No.1814495]

[Anonymous No.1814496]

>>1814450
The angle of the thumb. I dunno about you, but i've never seen a thumb that, when relaxed, sits a perfect right angle to the rest of the hand. I'm talking about both the angle AND the twist of the thumb, btw
The fingers are good though. Just watch that finger-webbing. It's sitting just a tad, tad, too low for my liking.
Even though it's minor, the webbing between the index and middle finger is usually the highest, or at leas on par with the middle webbing.

[Anonymous No.1814498]

>>1814486
niiiiice

[Faggneto No.1814500]

So…

[Anonymous No.1814503]

did this with black ballpoint pen and a bit of red

what can I do better?

looks better as a thumbnail methinks meself

[Anonymous No.1814517]

>>1814486
Good on 'ya, man

[Anonymous No.1814524]

[Anonymous No.1814527]

>>1814524

[Anonymous No.1814528]

>>1814524
you should probably give up about now

[Anonymous No.1814533]

any crit? i feel like im looking at the wrong times sometimes.
30-90 seconds for each of them.

[Anonymous No.1814557]

>>1814392
>>1814413
help?

[Anonymous No.1814560]

>>1814524
diggin the face, expression, colors and what not, but the proportions of the feet to thigh and what not are absurd

and lets not forget the elephant in the room..
the ass hole, cover it pls ;-;

[Anonymous No.1814585]

>>1812254

[Anonymous No.1814594]

>>1814585
Oh man, snakelady harem. Doesn't get much hotter than that.

(better keep us posted nigga, for real tho)

[Anonymous No.1814603]

>>1814496
Thank you

[Anonymous No.1814609]

First drawing on an iPad, just got a Jot touch. I'd like some feedback and maybe some help getting the perspective right on the legs, I tend to have trouble with that. Also, Don't worry about the lines, I'll touch them up later

[Anonymous No.1814623]

Just finished this one tonight, i'd love some brutally honest critique on it, I think it could look better but i'm not exactly sure what could be changed.

[Anonymous No.1814644]

>>1814609
I'm having trouble wondering what you are drawing.

[Anonymous No.1814650]

>>1814644

man you know what you should do?
you should do a pictures of trains with spider crab legs high in the sky

thats what I would do if I had you art style anyways

[Anonymous No.1814654]

>>1814644
Not sure if you mean the character looks like this, or that the lines aren't smooth. Both are true at this point, and whether this is serious or not you helped me realize that I'm not getting the point across with what I wanted on the face. So thanks

[Anonymous No.1814655]

>>1814623
try changing the thread, back to beginners.

[Anonymous No.1814672]

>>1814655

[Anonymous No.1814673]

>>1812278

head isnt heady enough, looks like a smooth undefined object

[Anonymous No.1814676]

still life

[Anonymous No.1814677]

>>1814603
meinen pleasure

[Anonymous No.1814693]

>>1814594

I really like this piece it is one of the most powerful works on sexuality in modern art

Clearly a metaphor for mans descent into reliance on cybersex, and reminiscent of Odysseus being drawn into Circe's hedonistic prison, The first two frames speak of power to the male who stands amongst his fantasy concubine who wait to please him.

From frame three onwards we see him become increasingly isolated, and his objects of lust become abstract, then pixellated, then ghostly, representing the transition from .jpg to smooth streaming video. He begins to look bored, even resistant in the penultimate frame. Perhaps he begins to realize his fantasy is not heaven but hell?

Finally, as man achieves full virtual simulation of sex, free from the emotion and obligation that women require, and the economics and logistical barriers to sexual fulfillment are finally destroyed, in a nietzschian twist has become a ghost himself, inside the machine, an object, nay a spirit of pure carnality

[KJKallio !OTcb98yDKo No.1814742]

More work on the portrait, I made this a study of Rembrandt's portraits, only taking the most important elements from his paintings, just the way he does color and lighting. Still lot to work on. Any critique more than welcome.

[Anonymous No.1814744]

>>1814742
bit odd to say as rembrandt's stuff changes heaps over his life.

[KJKallio !OTcb98yDKo No.1814748]

>>1814744
Yeah it is, trying to keep it subtle, but maybe need to take more influence.

[Anonymous No.1814769]

>>1814742
>>1814748

looking gud bro.. just gottta keep on rendering the face i would if i were you and make it sharper

[Anonymous No.1814781]

>>1814465
Updated

[Anonymous No.1814806]

totally random character

[Anonymous No.1814825]

>>1814806
and that's pretty much exactly how he looks. random. it just looks lazy. the sleeves don't even match.

[Anonymous No.1814826]

>>1814486
must be a nice feeling!
how did you know the client? friend or family? or someone who contacted you for a fanatasy inspired painting?

[Anonymous No.1814829]

>>1814440
I like that you're using super shitty reference. Good luck, brother. That is a true test of skill.

[Anonymous No.1814831]

>>1814825
k

[Anonymous No.1814845]

Current WIP. Trying out new colours and new lighting situations.

[Anonymous No.1814861]

>>1814781
mind your edges, group your values and establish unified lighting.Also not sure if the face anatomy is correct but his mouth looks skewed.

[Anonymous No.1814865]

>>1814861
Thanks for your input mate, much appreciated. Mind me asking what brush you used for your paint over?

[Anonymous No.1814870]

>>1814623
underageb& confirmed.

[Anonymous No.1814877]

>>1814826
some one who contacted me. He said he'll recommend me with his friends for more paintings. I think I should rise my prices a bit.

[Anonymous No.1814905]

Found an old sketch page featuring a bunch of studies featuring light houses (from life) decided to touch one of them up. Need to clean up some shapes but it's very far in the process.

Keep forgetting how much it eases the process the along by having lines. I haven't had to retrace any steps so far.

Also everyone should try and paint a landscape featuring a cozy scene but at a dutch angle!

>>1812871
Most of the things that blend together into things that you can't discern are things I haven't resolved yet. The final painting may have a very different layout. Also it's very easy to glaze in colors in photoshop at later stages.

>>1813899
It is not a very hard style to imitate since it is basic brush work on top of forms and not much else. I would wish that you would spent more time considering your shapes, how they belong one into the other. Among the things you posted
>>1812782
is by far the strongest and would be very easy to take to a 'finish' not as in a conventional finish as in rendering every detail but rather are more careful arrangement of shapes and colors. Try and take a break from your pieces instead of posting them and then comming back to them a week later, see them with fresh eyes.

Gives you time to think and you avoid a lot of noodling

>>1813024
Shaddy safadi's technique lends itself well to very graphic rendering. Try to stylize the shapes even more than you already have. He goes on about the 'feeling//essence' of things with good intentions in mind. Copying the technique without applying more thought to your shapes will do you little good.

>>1814367
Looks nice, If you're going to render it out I'd suggest resolving the issue present in the nose (looks like there's only one channel / uneven(?))

>>1814877
Nice dude, getting commissioned to do art is such a sweet feeling.

[Anonymous No.1814906]

>>1814905
rendering every detail isn't conventional.

[Anonymous No.1814910]

>>1814905
And some steps, last step is a value check.
I can see that I have a bunch more dark left to push into the treeline
>>1814906
Yeah I know

[Anonymous No.1815005]

>>1814742
>>1814748
The skin looks much too yellow on that blue background. I don't know what a Rembrandt would look like around the time of painting, but I suspect you've made the skin too warm for that cool of an environment. Try to get more cool grays in the skin

The placement of her eyes and the direction of her gaze has be believe that her head is tilted upwards and a bit to our left, but the lips are painted as if viewed from perfectly straight on.

Some of your reds feel a bit gaudy. The hair looks like an unnatural color and the lips(tick) too red.

[Anonymous No.1815008]

>>1814186
Not quite content with the colors, but gonna call this done.

[Anonymous No.1815011]

>>1814905
>>1814910
Real nice. But I feel like the clouds going directly to the focal point is a bit much. Like it's too convenient and purposefully done. That's kind of my issue with all composition. Everything feels convenient. So not really a complaint or crit but just an observation of mine.

[Anonymous No.1815034]

>>1815008
how/where do I learn to do this? do the values in b/w first, then figure out the colors? I might be better off asking this in absolute beginner but I've seen this process a lot

[Anonymous No.1815049]

[Anonymous No.1815054]

>>1815049

see if you find joy in using the smudge tool to soften edges.

[Anonymous No.1815055]

totally stuck. please tell me what to add/delete/improve!

[Anonymous No.1815057]

>>1812316
Needs more colour dodge and shitty colours

[Anonymous No.1815060]

>>1815049
funny lookin

[Anonymous No.1815064]

>>1815060
I dont know why the background went so green. it was ment to be grey with blueish tints, I was working with the light off so i could see the candle better.
I like how the win glass turned out. Critique?

[Anonymous No.1815074]

>>1815054
I'm working on that, but I usually fuck it up with the smudge tool. Do you have any tips regarding the settings or brushes for smudging?

[Anonymous No.1815094]

>>1812838
shiet, i like it

[Anonymous No.1815107]

>>1815074

oh boy. yeah that's the thing the smudge tool is incredibly versatile depending on brushtip, brushsettings and smudge strenght. experiment alot with it, and if you find something you like save it as a tool preset (saves everything, including flow/opacity and brush size).

[Anonymous No.1815144]

>>1814845
Working on it little-by-little, especially with the skin and lighting. I think I might end up changing the hue of his skin if he's going to be a blonde, along with the gas mask.

[Anonymous No.1815168]

>>1815034
I did the values first and then the colors on separate color and saturation layers. I don't quite like the result though, so any tips for coloring with this method would be nice. I think it has to do with choosing the right color for each value, as every color has it's own optimal value range. Or something like that.

[Anonymous No.1815174]

[Anonymous No.1815176]

shrug

[Anonymous No.1815184]

Every time I finish something, I kind of like it for 5 seconds before I realize how shit it is. Pic related.

I don't know if I'm gonna make it, /ic/. But I'm still gonna try. ;_;

[Anonymous No.1815187]

>>1815184
i think everyone feels that way at some point.
just don't spend too much time trying to fix something. finish it, identify your mistakes, learn from them, and move on to the next pic. it's important to keep moving.

[Anonymous No.1815193]

>>1815184
reminds me of Majora's Mask haha

[Anonymous No.1815195]

>>1813846
aaaaa thank you. i like skoptsy's work a lot so that's a big compliment.

[Anonymous No.1815199]

This is my base drawing.

[Anonymous No.1815201]

>>1815176
That's not how mouths work. You made it look like they both have the front middle of their lips closed and the sides of the mouth open. Don't use animation shortcuts without a real reason to do so.

[Anonymous No.1815203]

>>1815199
Afterwards, this is the final image. Done in Illustrator.

[Anonymous No.1815202]

>>1814825
another one, is this lazy ?

[Anonymous No.1815204]

>>1815202
This is amazing. Great lines.

[Anonymous No.1815206]

>>1815203
Your lines are wonky and the colours aren't very appealing.

[Anonymous No.1815209]

>>1815202
it isn't even done.
and the design already looks random

[Anonymous No.1815212]

>>1815202
>>1814806
Just looks like you recently found a way to make smooth lines.

There's no design and not enough work put in to make it interesting in any way.

Work more on something and post it.

[Anonymous No.1815215]

some drawings over the past two nights. Something-to-draw.com

[Anonymous No.1815226]

Can anybody give me some advice on how to continue to draw this, i always get stuck when i get to this point. Any other critics are appreciated as well, thank you

[Anonymous No.1815240]

sketching some stupid wrestlers / wrestling related guys

[Anonymous No.1815272]

>>1815226
All I see is a good contour exercise, and should be the first of many. You should try your hand at values as well.

However, It looks like you simply eyeballed the general lines of the figure. You have a decent eye for proportions yet your lines are still hairy. I recommend drawing more. I'm not going to advise you on this drawing because it's uninteresting.

[Anonymous No.1815275]

>>1815240
Very cartoon network

[Anonymous No.1815288]

>>1812254
Drew a thing real quick today, Don't really know how to render and or make this look crisper

[Anonymous No.1815303]

>>1815240
I really like your style!

>>1815174
Is it WIP? It's pretty flat and boring so far, but it has potential. Please keep us updated.

[Anonymous No.1815356]

been mirin Yang Qi hard

[Anonymous No.1815372]

>>1815202
>>1815212
WHAT IS THIS SECRET LINE TRICK, my look like shit no matter what.

[Anonymous No.1815380]

>>1815356

eeeew paint more opaquely

[Anonymous No.1815394]

>>1815372
I guess any kind of 'smoothing program'. Or just drawing with the shoulder.

To be fair his lines is not especially good.

[Anonymous No.1815399]

>>1815372
those are bad lines. The secret to good lines is removing bad lines. The eraser. The selection. The mask. The undo button. People like you haven't even tried to make the lines look good, just cry and act amazed at lines that aren't chicken scratching.

[Anonymous No.1815400]

>>1815394
drawing with the shoulder? not used to all these terms I just got into tablet drawing again, any sort of tutorial for lines like this?

mine just come out like this

[Anonymous No.1815402]

>>1815400
OH GOD THATS BIGGER THAN IT SHOULD BE IT LOOKS AWFUL LIKE THAT

whatever, anyway, the lines need smoothing and just don't seem crisp

[Anonymous No.1815403]

>>1812587
>>1814381
studies from google maps. South America.

[Anonymous No.1815406]

>>1815403
Lovely!

>>1815400
Just slow down and spend time on it. You won't learn anything from stressing out, giving up and coming here to whine about it.

[Anonymous No.1815409]

>>1815400
Use a bigger canvas at least 3k squared and use a tiny brush with size depending on pen pressure. Any lines will look like shit when you draw big brush on small canvas.

[Anonymous No.1815418]

>>1814413
Not bad. The hand position looks weird, try posing like this and you'll see how awkward it is. Also, that fur looks terrible, use some references and textured brushes.

>>1814533
Study anatomy, don't just copy the contours

[Anonymous No.1815419]

[Anonymous No.1815420]

>>1815418
>Dont look at the contour
>look at the gesture
>dont look at the gesture study anatomy
>stop worrying about form so early
>look at the gesture
>study anatomy
>look at the gesture
>feel the drawing
>stop looking at the gesture study anatomy

[Anonymous No.1815429]

Critique plox

[Anonymous No.1815441]

>>1815420
Gesture study is also about proportions. If you get good gestures you can build anatomy on it. If you are good at anatomy and shit at gesture you get stiff stuff. But if you know nothing of anatomy you can't get proportions right and you don't contort the body right.

you can study both at the same time. First do a gesture of a ref. Then make a study of the forms on a new layer. In the form you will find the anatomy. Section big muscle groups or forms, and show the form with crossing lines. Gesture is feeling and understanding. Anatomy is knowledge and understanding.

[Anonymous No.1815450]

bleh

so not done.

not never

[Anonymous No.1815456]

>>1815380
>>1815418
better?

[Anonymous No.1815493]

>>1815456
your edges makes me physically ill

[Anonymous No.1815512]

>>1815456

yeah. but still, try painting alot more opaquely. you will probably be really really good in a couple of years btw.

[Anonymous No.1815515]

aaand one more

[Anonymous No.1815557]

>>1815493
the pixelation?

[Anonymous No.1815607]

tada.

[KJKallio !OTcb98yDKo No.1815620]

>>1815005
Thanks, all valid critique, I went too far too fast into rendering it, and it shows. Back to the drawing board.

[KJKallio !OTcb98yDKo No.1815633]

>>1815557
>the pixelation?

No, all of your edges are smudgy and there is very little difference between sharp and smooth edges, It just all looks the same. The proportions of the character are far too over exaggerated, I understand this is a fantasy character and not all the rules of normal proportions should apply, but they still look far too stretched and comical, whether it is a fantasy character or not, you should still find a good balance, and make it look more realistic. Shapes and forms need a lot of work too, it just looks overall shapeless, give more volume to the clothing, make the bits of armor fit to the perspective, and so on. Also why is the swrord so weirdly curved? and the scabbard not? I like the overall design, but this needs a complete overhaul.

[Anonymous No.1815661]

Any thoughts?

[Anonymous No.1815700]

>>1815420
Most people tell you to do gestures first, but everyone sucks at them without knowing how an actual body looks like. It helped me A LOT studying anatomy and construction first, specifically Hampton, and only then add some motion and looseness to it.
Same thing as having to know fundamentals first before stylising, it's a lot easier knowing realism when simplifying and gestures require a lot of simplifying.

[Anonymous No.1815721]

>>1815201
aaah, well, since it's manga fanart i did want to keep it vaguely anime. but i suppose it does kinda clash with the rest of the non-anime elements.
either way, i'm finished, but would love some crits for next time. i already know that i fucked up around the legs area, and it doesn't really seem like they're making eye contact..

[Anonymous No.1815751]

[Anonymous No.1815757]

Need thoughts on the monkey. I'm going to tweak the hand some more since it's not a total rip off (same with the colors)

[Anonymous No.1815759]

>>1815757
What I'm ripping off of by the way

[Anonymous No.1815762]

>>1815751
I'd try and bring out the darker parts a bit more and maybe do a bit more detailing other then that the values and anatomy look good

[Anonymous No.1815763]

>>1815429
You need to work on your side cheeks, I only know this because I need to as well

[Anonymous No.1815797]

Hnuugghhhhhhrrr

[Anonymous No.1815820]

>>1815762
Thank you. I'll use your advice

[Anonymous No.1815826]

[Anonymous No.1815843]

How do I make reflections on windows?

[Anonymous No.1815881]

i draw a lot of ao no exorcist fanart...

[Anonymous No.1815904]

i need an inexpensive hobby, so i want to start drawing again, i havent done anything in 3-4 years. dayum im rusty

with some time i want to move away from the obviously-copied-from-a-photo-look

[Anonymous No.1815905]

small practise

[Anonymous No.1816036]

>>1815881
finished it in a rush because it had to be done today (it's the character's birthday)

[Anonymous No.1816044]

http://www.drawinghowtodraw.com/directoryhome.html

thought this could be helpful