/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.1810351]

Who do you want to be when you grow up?

I don't think I'm going to make it (he's only a few years older than me)

1. Save a painting or drawing by one of your favorite artists.

2. Put it next to one of your

3. Feel

[Anonymous No.1810352]

>>1810351
>one of "your"

Fuck's sake

[Anonymous No.1810360]

>>1810351
i don't get why people like that picture of the elf girl so much it's go so many flaws, and genericness and ugliness.

[Anonymous No.1810364]

>>1810360

[Anonymous No.1810366]

>>1810360
What flaws?

[Anonymous No.1810368]

>>1810366

Welcome to /ic/

[Anonymous No.1810369]

There's no hope. I'm not going to make it.

[Anonymous No.1810371]

>>1810364
how do you draw that conclusion? what's to be butthurt about..it just doesn't seem like a very good picture but i've seen it a lot of times. not that it's bad, it's just not great, or interesting.

[Anonymous No.1810372]

I don't even know how or where I wanna wind up. It sounds like a turd thing to say but I'm trying to git gud so I can do my own thing.

[Anonymous No.1810377]

>>1810372
You and me both man. I don't want to work in the field necessarily (not that I wouldn't if the opportunity somehow arose) but I want to make my own shit for my own projects and for that to happen I need to git gud.

>>1810371
You just need to feel it brah.

[Anonymous No.1810379]

[Anonymous No.1810382]

[Anonymous No.1810383]

general thoughts: i'm shit, i know that really well. it's all good. there is so much to look forward to. the old masters are so cool. art's so amazinggggg oh god, art art art~ art! art ar

[Anonymous No.1810384]

>>1810383
wow dude, i like the drawing you did, do you have something i can follow?

[Anonymous No.1810392]

>>1810384
oh wow, thank you so much for saying this
i'm really an idiot though because i've been going through and tweaking a lot of past things in order to collect them into one big image to toss, as a first post, into some site or other. (so's not to waste any stuff)
but just never end up finished since i keep on adding new bad stuff to be tweaked
so nada yet but thanks for the reply, you're cool anon

[Anonymous No.1810394]

artartartartart

[Anonymous No.1810395]

>>1810351

5 seconds in ms paint will suffice

[Anonymous No.1810420]

>>1810394
almost there

[Anonymous No.1810430]

I want to be an Art Director

[Anonymous No.1810431]

We're all gonna make it brahs

[Anonymous No.1810433]

I want to be a human bean!

[Anonymous No.1810579]

Sculpture bro coming through

[Anonymous No.1810597]

couple of years :v

[Anonymous No.1810612]

>>1810579
That's very pretty, I like it.

[Anonymous No.1810633]

with my rate of practice maybe i'll get there in a good five years

[Anonymous No.1810634]

When and if I become a pro I'll make it my duty to give lower level artists hugs and whisper in their ear "You're gonna make it."

[Anonymous No.1810647]

>>1810612
Thanks friend

[Anonymous No.1810653]

>>1810366
It's a shit figure, it's a traced face, it's shit design, proportions are bad, perspective isn't even trying, weight is not even close. Just look at that torso and shoulder, those hips and those legs. Only people with shit eyes will think that's a good piece. Aim higher.

[Anonymous No.1810669]

>>1810369
Cuteness lies in the eye of the Beholder.

[Anonymous No.1810671]

>>1810653

why would it be traced? it's obviously some kind of floating levitating elf fairy windmage girl so talking about weight is idiotic. there's nothing wrong with the hips and shoulders either lol... agree with aiming higher but that doesn't reduce this image.

[Anonymous No.1810675]

This is from 2 months ago, but I barely progressed since then cause this summer has been nothing but vidya and procrastination.

[Anonymous No.1810676]

I'm nowhere near I want to be. And the way things are going, I'll never be.

[Anonymous No.1810682]

>>1810675
>>1810676
go draw you faggots.

[Anonymous No.1810685]

>>1810682
Just draw is not going to help me get better.

[Anonymous No.1810686]

>>1810653
>shit figure
Whatever dude, lol

>it's a traced face

Ur mom's a traced face.

>it's shit design, proportions are bad, perspective isn't even trying,

Wrong on all counts

>weight is not even close

I fucking knew you were going to talk shit about the pose and out yourself. That surreal, impossible pose and her placement amongst the interesting shapes and textures of the tree is one of my favorite parts of the painting.

>b-but that pose is i-impossible!

That's the fucking point. Holy shit mr. Autism. In a setting that involves elves and other monsters with supernatural powers why is it so hard for you to suspend your disbelief for two seconds when it comes to a pose nigga?

[Anonymous No.1810687]

>>1810682
Soon.

[Anonymous No.1810700]

>>1810653
>it's a traced face

Why would he trace it? He could just have a photo of a face open as ref and copy it the regular way, like if he was doing a study of it. Or just reference it partially. Accusations of tracing in these type of paintings make you look like an incredibly unskilled noob. Like you are unable to even fathom that artists can use references organically without having to trace them.

[Anonymous No.1810709]

>>1810671
Because you can find the original ref he traced? its some musician i cant recall name. Weight is still something that grounds the character, and that still applies on what is obviously some magic pose. If you seriously think that's good then you have shit eyes, like i said. I can't be bothered to show you everything wrong with it, it's all obvious if you take the time to look at it.

[Anonymous No.1810715]

>>1810351
Am i going to make it guys?

hahah
hah
ha
brb killing myself

[Anonymous No.1810717]

>>1810715

sure. why not? don't be a depressed cunt.

[Anonymous No.1810720]

>>1810653
this guy is actually right, you newbs should aim fucking higher.

[Anonymous No.1810723]

>>1810709

wow. okay that's fucking lame and lazy. now i can see why this pete mohrbacher dude gets all that hate on here.

[Anonymous No.1810725]

>>1810709
>he even copied the hair

jesus fuck

[Anonymous No.1810727]

>>1810709
Yolandi Vi$$er,
bring the spice.

[Anonymous No.1810729]

>>1810685
Well, it will, but learning and understanding technique is helpful too.

Just get in there.

[Anonymous No.1810731]

>>1810715
Holy fuck you should definitely kill yourself. Or at least leave this industry, your anti talent only makes you wasting time.

[Anonymous No.1810733]

>>1810709
I've been meaning to ask, how can you tell the difference between tracing and reference?
What if they're very good at mimicking layout and proportion?

[Anonymous No.1810744]

>>1810733

if they were good enough to mimick layout and proportion, they would be good enough to not rely that heavily on accurately copying reference.

im disgusted.

[Anonymous No.1810752]

>>1810744
>if they were good enough to mimick layout and proportion, they would be good enough to not rely that heavily on accurately copying reference.
Sense when?
Even the old masters used models for much of their work.

[Anonymous No.1810759]

>>1810709
I saw this posted before. Who cares?

>traced

That's obviously what he used as a reference but I bet even you could draw that from observation let alone him. He gave her smaller nostrils and a less bulbous nose, thicker lips and made her look less like a heroine addict in general. He deserves some heat for aping even part of that ridiculous Lloyd Christmas bowl cut hairline though.

[Anonymous No.1810760]

>>1810752
Jesus, this shit again
he didn't ask that girl's permission to use her image in his work, same with the photographer who made it. It has nothing to do with a model. You need to use your brain more.

[Anonymous No.1810764]

>>1810760
>needing permission from ugly people to make them look passable

I don't even.

[Anonymous No.1810765]

>>1810764
Ugly or not, that's a well-known singer.

[Anonymous No.1810767]

>>1810759

keep your 1 ft above the floor standards. i think people who this are garbage and should get gathered up and gasses in big chambers.

in fact, let me start working towards that goal right now. brb marching towards the bundestag with my bros. we will exterminate tracing and photobashing subhuman filth.

[Anonymous No.1810769]

>>1810767
Fuck off kike

[Anonymous No.1810770]

Its funny how butthurt some people get about the practices of others. Its almost like they actually care. If you get this worked up about the ethics of an artist then good god you must have a pea sized brain.

[Anonymous No.1810772]

>>1810709
>>1810759
>>1810733
he openly admits to tracing faces and shit in one of the Level Up videos he's guest on

[Anonymous No.1810776]

>>1810653
M8, if you want to 'Dunning-Kruger, everybody is shit, master critic'- post, we have an Algen thread right on the front page.

[Anonymous No.1810779]

>>1810760
So the issue is, with permission to use a reference.

Bad as that is, it seems totally unrelated to the actual technical appreciation of the piece itself.

[Anonymous No.1810780]

>>1810772

absolutely disgusting

[Anonymous No.1810785]

>>1810772
>>1810780
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhFbt1T9lP0
skip to 45:34 ish

but to give him some credit, he did change the lighting on the traced face and all

[Anonymous No.1810793]

>>1810785
>I draw faces bad so instead of practicing Im >just gonna trace.

Take notes guys, this is a grade A example on how to make it in the industry

[Anonymous No.1810795]

carefully optmistic

[Anonymous No.1810805]

I thought you guys were simply acting up and being little children but you guys have a point. Why would an artist not want to exercise his own skill and thus get better? I just don't understand why someone who gives a shit about their own skills would trace.

[Anonymous No.1810808]

>>1810776
its nice you have learned new words but you're using them wrong. You should maybe learn what it means before you throw it around.

[Anonymous No.1810810]

>>1810808
Your passive aggressive remarks are also nice. Not him, but just commenting from the standpoint of a connoisseur of such remarks.

[Anonymous No.1810813]

>>1810795
keep it up nigga

[Anonymous No.1810821]

>>1810805
You should try to stop thinking people having a discussion is acting up and being little children. That is truly immature.

[Anonymous No.1810822]

>>1810805
If you watch the video he draws a complete face before "tracing" that isn't really awful by any means; it's like he's so insecure in his own work that he's compelled to do shit like this. It's kind of sad to watch. Obviously tracing a persons face directly is going to get a "better" result but his result from imagination isn't completely naive or bad by any means. What the fuck?

[Anonymous No.1810837]

>>1810821
I'm on 4chan. So are you. Also don't tell me how to think. Again, we're on fucking 4chan. Thanks for your morals but no.

>>1810822
I am trying to be understanding. I don't know what working in the industry is like. I am guessing that working under that kind of pressure can fuck you up from the inside out in many ways...

[Anonymous No.1810838]

Reminder that we're all gonna make it as long as we stop procrastinating.

[Anonymous No.1810840]

I still have a few years time, so I hope I'll git gud until then.

[Anonymous No.1810847]

>>1810837
It's not morals, it's common sense. Be stupid if you want. You certainly seem to think you're in good company. Who am I to stop you, you know? That's your prerogative.

[Anonymous No.1810849]

>>1810838
Needs more vilppu

[Anonymous No.1810860]

>>1810840
I like the colours in the bottom right picture.

[Anonymous No.1810867]

Started drawing last year, but only for 1 hour or less a day. This summer I started aiming for at least 3 hours a day. I hope I can make a strong progression by next summer at this rate.

[Anonymous No.1810881]

I think i'm nearly there.

[Anonymous No.1810898]

>>1810881
10/10

[Anonymous No.1810900]

>>1810709
>
That isnt traced, only used as ref

[Anonymous No.1810903]

>>1810867
what stuff did you do to get to this point in a year?

[Anonymous No.1810906]

>>1810881
not even close.

[Anonymous No.1810907]

>>1810900
it's still pathetic. it means he doesn't know how to draw.

[Anonymous No.1810911]

>>1810840
you haven't even started attempting to draw all that architecture you aspire to do.

[Anonymous No.1810915]

>>1810907
Rest of picture came from, where?

[Anonymous No.1810917]

>>1810907
Bait, but everyone uses reference at one point or another, mate

[Anonymous No.1810921]

>>1810709
Honestly I could not care shit about people who bash on this art. His result is obviously not close to what the photographer intended.

Maybe it's even photo manipulation, I still couldn't care less.

While some butthurt purist anon runs his crusade he is getting work done that people appreciate and use.

[Anonymous No.1810922]

>>1810915
>>1810917
Are you guys retarded?
See >>1810785
"I've found a model I wanted to use for the figure. And I've actually traced the face from one of the shots to be able to make sure the anatomy is right on, because I'm very bad about the copying from photos indirectly".
He traces. Because he is bad. He admitted it. Stop being in denial.

[Anonymous No.1810925]

>>1810922
I agree with you, if he had honed his skills he could have done this faster and better.

[Anonymous No.1810927]

>>1810922
I find particularly funny how the thought of maybe NOT copying the reference exactly didn't even cross his mind. Nope, he's just like "Yeah even from reference I suck, I need to trace". This is just so bad...

[Anonymous No.1810930]

>>1810917
that's fine, but they don't even tell you when they used it and everyone does it so much, they don't even bother telling anymore. when you look at their work with great admiration, you feel jealous because you want to be as good as that artist, but when you find out it's not genuine, you don't know just how much they referenced and how many of their works have been just an indirect or direct copy of something.
it might be fine in the industry, but to me personally that's really pathetic. learn to draw/paint, if you want to call yourself an artist.

[Anonymous No.1810945]

this is where i wanna be, i see the flaws with this painting but still i like it, doesn't matter where am right now.

[Anonymous No.1810949]

>>1810945
>doesn't matter where am right now.
Then what's the point of participating in this thread>

[Anonymous No.1810953]

>>1810903
Copying mostly from old masters drawings and living artists that I want to be like. I found doing that quickly improved my linework and general sense of form. I also spend time looking at a lot of art and trying to guess how the artist might have put things together.
One thing I would caution against is using too many guides like the bean shape or robot mannequin stick figure things you see in loomis' books. I got stuck on them and it made it hard for me to draw the figure correctly. I'm breaking the habit now + working on perspective which I'm terrible at.

[Anonymous No.1810956]

>>1810927
actually he did warp the face slightly. He brought the hairline down and the the chin slightly in just warping the layer before tracing.

I think there's a better way to use refs like this better. You first trace the image, then you structure the face by following the form, sectioning out parts thinking 3D. Then you can make a new version with pretty much fresh knowledge on how you should structure the face, and you can then turn it and manipulate it in 3D to make something that nobody will be able to say you traced, because you didn't use the traced ref you only used the information of the structure and not the lines from tracing the ref.

Pic related. I wanted pinup, but i am dogshit at faces. So i traced the two refs son the right and did my own on the right after that in the right perspective and position that i wanted. You cannot find a ref for it, because it doesn't exist. It's more work than tracing, but it's completely done without any ref that matches more closely than those on the right.

[Anonymous No.1810966]

>>1810949
i'm sorry that's because i only do studies. creativity comes later i need to have solid fundamentals first.

[Anonymous No.1810973]

>>1810953
>I can't draw the figure well.
>S-surely this is the fault of a method used for centuries by artists all over the world.
Flawless logic there man.

[Anonymous No.1810974]

>>1810966
put your creativity to paper anyway or you stop trying to be creative. Personal works are important as studies.

[Anonymous No.1810978]

>>1810973
I'm not blaming anyone.
Nothing aside from devoting time to drawing is a 'one size fits all' guaranteed method of learning. Loomis may have worked for you, but he didn't for me. You have to find what works for you, anon.

[Anonymous No.1810981]

>>1810978
pretty much, there are a billion ways to draw the figure, and its all just a tool.

[Anonymous No.1810983]

>>1810978
>I'm not blaming anyone.
Well, you should be obviously blaming yourself instead.

[Anonymous No.1810985]

>>1810966
>because I only do studies
Don't take these words lightly: you NEED to do personal, imaginative works to improve. Otherwise you'd just be good at copying photos/real life observational drawing. Studies don't require anywhere near the amount of critical thinking and problem solving as imaginative pieces do.

That, and you're going to get burned out just doing studies.

[Anonymous No.1810987]

>>1810709
clearly a reference and nowhere stealing.
Also you have a significant amount of butthurt in your text. What's the matter, Kevin? Did mom not hang your drawing on the fridge today?

[Anonymous No.1810988]

>>1810983
As I said to the person who asked: I got stuck on them and it made it hard for me to draw. Loomis didn't rise from his grave and point a gun at my head...

[Anonymous No.1810990]

>itt: people who can't draw faces

come on, it's really not that hard

[Anonymous No.1810997]

well this was fucking discouraging

[Anonymous No.1811000]

>>1810840
You have a terminal illness?

[Anonymous No.1811005]

>>1810956
tracing is always talked about as bad and you should never do it... fuck that. you just don't show off what you trace, and you think while you trace, why is this here, so thats how they did it blaa blaa blaa.

if you are fucking dick at everything, trace the outline of what you are doing, and try to place, it will get you better skills without you feeling like shit constantly because you can't do even the most basic shit right. when you are able to however, stop tracing, there is a point where tracing does hurt you, but its not from square fucking one.

[Anonymous No.1811009]

>>1811000
Lol no, I'll get out of college by then and I want to have an art job after that.

>>1810997
I actually like yours more if it only were more finished, the left one is all fuzzy and has no hard edges, no definition and muddy colours.

[Anonymous No.1811010]

>>1810997
Colours are nice, but you should practice working on your perspective. Do more construction.

Also work on your values and conveying form, because some objects are rather flat (the side of the building facing the viewer for example)

[Anonymous No.1811013]

>>1810686
i agree with you on weight and pose, but he did trace
>>1810700
http://youtu.be/uhFbt1T9lP0?t=45m10s
watch that for 1 minute.

[Anonymous No.1811018]

>>1811009
thank you, but he is definitely light years ahead of me. there's just something about the light feels that I cannot reproduce.

>>1811010
perspective is probably way off. you are right. I used a ref from google street view, super distorted, and I didn't add any guidelines to it.

>>1811010
ah, that's true. I was stupid to use a distorted street view image without trying to solve the perspective.

thanks for the feedback you guys

[Anonymous No.1811019]

>>1811013
>acknowledges that he's bad at observational drawing
>traces instead of just working on it and improving

[Anonymous No.1811025]

>>1810379
well... you don't have far to go. aim higher.

>>1810382
id argue in ways you are already better. use one color as a shadow and you 4 tones of it and you would be almost there at least in terms of the rendering.

>>1810383
i like yours allot, but so much of it kind of blends together that its hard to read, maybe try just doing lines for a bit...

take a look at Vilppu and try to do his drawings... honestly he will get you where you want to be probably the best.

>>1810394
prospective a bit, and i would say you are better. you at least have nicer lines then they do.

>>1810579
i like it too, though to get to where you want to be, you may need to start on a far larger scale than work down...

>>1810633
id say at least face wise you are better, now you just need to learn color... that... yea... have fun with it, all i can say.

>>1810634
best way to do that is post your entire progress, everything you do... not just the shit when you are close to or near the end game...
we need more people doing that shit.

>>1810715
lucky for you where you want to be is all down to the render, its arguably the easiest part to get good at.

>>1810838
Vilppu

>>1810867
id say got human wise, if you can do that without a reference, or even half, you are as good as the want, start trying to get prospective good.

[Anonymous No.1811033]

>>1810840
You are quite good, I think you could land a job soon

[Anonymous No.1811047]

>>1811013
I hear you and I concede defeat in this argument at least regarding the face, I still like the piece a lot for its color, composition etc. but I find it depressing that he's more or less "given up" on doing faces for himself when his imaginative work isn't as bad as he acts like it is: >>1810822 , it's just...no shit...worse than directly tracing.

It's kind of depressing. The artist Daarken shared an anecdote from school he was butthurt about wherein his painting teacher ripped up his digital painting in front of the class, and while that was definitely a dick move, I can see where that animus comes from the more I familiarize myself with how often greasy "techniques" like tracing are used in the digital art community.

[Anonymous No.1811052]

Why do most "skilled" artists paint mainly fantasy/medieval stuff?

[Anonymous No.1811053]

>>1811033
Are you a beginner? Where exactly would I get a job? I'm completely shit at painting people, architecture and designing stuff.
Well, I do hope I'll get to an acceptable level as soon as possible so I can start freelancing. And thanks anyway, you made my day a little less shitty.

[Anonymous No.1811058]

>>1811018
>I used a ref from google street view
i hate when people do that. i know one artist who said he was life drawing, when i asked how he did he plein air, he said he was drawing from google street view.

[Anonymous No.1811068]

>>1811052
You're looking at the world through internet bias.

[Anonymous No.1811071]

>>1811052
Because most games/things that need illustrations are fantasy (or sci-fi, plenty of good scifi artists) or medieval. How often do you hear about games set in the Renaissance? The average American would laugh his fat ass off if he saw what men used to wear back then. Or games in the Stone Age?

[Anonymous No.1811072]

>>1811052
That's because you don't look at the other artists.

It's like me asking why "skilled" artists paint shitty generic sexy women and space marines when all I do is look at vidya garbage.

[Anonymous No.1811073]

>>1810930
You sound like a child that was just told Santa doesn't exist

[Anonymous No.1811078]

bar set low, but I just want to draw fun cartoons

[Anonymous No.1811079]

>>1811073
you're cheating too, aren't you? of course you're going to defend this practice until drool comes out of your mouth.
i said it's fine for industry related work, but people copy refs for personal too.

[Anonymous No.1811081]

>>1810795
I want to be ovopack-level as well, but my skills are worse than yours. I never learned to paint, only flat color and block shading. I never touched a book, all I did was draw and hope maybe this time it would be better

just over 20, how should I kill myself after realizing that even if I become better, everyone else will have become much better and in a shorter amount of time by not being a naive faggot who wasted his years? Trying to not treat it like a race is very hard for me as it's just such clear-cut facts, like ''you're shit and will still be shit in X years/after learning X''

[Anonymous No.1811092]

>>1811073
But the truth here is that Santas do exist, however many people pretend to be Santas and instead of delivering presents magically produced by them, they just steal things from someone else and repackage them as gifts.

[Anonymous No.1811105]

>>1811073
you're right, i thought that some artists could draw. turned out they can't draw.
what if you found out that your lawyer or doctor don't know what they're doing?

[Anonymous No.1811166]

>>1811105
This

>>1811073
Shit analogy m8

[Anonymous No.1811183]

>>1810813
It is the only way
>>1811081
Self-loathing only lasts for a while, art skills last for rest of your lifetime

[Anonymous No.1811198]

>>1811081
I have exactly the same mindset, like i know everyone will be better from me, so why should i even try? I dunno man, it's really stopping me from progression, cancer shit.

[Anonymous No.1811206]

>>1811198
You’re gonna have to serve somebody
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you’re gonna have to serve somebody

Do or do not. There is no try.

Gather ye rosebuds while ye may,
Old Time is still a-flying:
And this same flower that smiles to-day
To-morrow will be dying.

You live for yourself, not to be judged by others. Art is not a competition, it's your self expression. If you keep trying you will surround yourself with people who will praise your skill and crave it. In that you will find success and the feeling of accomplishment, not when putting yourself against others There will always be someone better than you at something. You don't try to be the best at anything, you just do the best you can.

[Anonymous No.1811211]

>>1811047
i like it too, though in the same video you also see that he basically did the same for the hand, granted probably not trace it but he had to look around to find photo reference for it... i dont understand the point of being creative without wanting to be creative. im not one to get pissy about hyperrealism and how you must use your imagination, but for fuck sake dude, its a thumb, you couldn't draw a thumb from your mind?

any idea where than anecdote is? kind of want to listen/read to its context

[Anonymous No.1811221]

>>1811211
He mentions his experience in one of the videos here...

http://enliighten.com/blog/category/tutorials/

...but I'm not sure which one, sorry. I could have exaggerated it in my mind too as it's been a while since I'd seen it. If it's any consolation his videos are pretty good anyway and worth watching for the most part.

[Anonymous No.1811235]

maybe in like 20 years minus being able to do it without construction lines ]:

[Anonymous No.1811250]

>>1810351

[Anonymous No.1811251]

>>1811250
Let the shitposting commence!

[Anonymous No.1811262]

>>1811206
>art is not a competition
It's like you enjoy being a weakling. Art is only for people, who are going to master it at all costs, the rest is trash.

[Anonymous No.1811263]

>>1811262
i agree. if art is not a competition then there's no point in making it. it's already done, all you want. you just got to find it, it's out there.
wait, you mean to tell me that you actually enjoy making shitty art? i laff, you have got to be a masochist for that.

[Anonymous No.1811282]

how should i kill myself?

[Anonymous No.1811286]

>>1811282
>Scott Plebgrim

In some really slow and painful manner, from the looks of it, like, you should read the sticky so hard that you die xdddd

[Anonymous No.1811288]

[Anonymous No.1811292]

>>1811262
>>1811263
not that guy, but i feel exactly the same as them.
i also get the drive for competition in a way, but not in the way you two think it. rather in the way that you see good stuff from a peer and want to be as good as them, not to be better than someone but to be better than your current self. so kinda looks like both positive competition with yourself and negative competition with others both work as motivators for different folks

though i kinda want to mention that i would definitely have fun making art and would be making it even if i didn't intend to make anything of it and even if i knew how terrible were the things i were making. i would've never started if i hadn't. don't know why. it's just what i do

[Anonymous No.1811296]

>>1811292
oh yeah, and also this is sort of interesting. (you probably already know, but) a bunch of the old masters felt the same way you do about art, (competition with others) and a bunch felt the way i and that other guy do (betterment of self.) so it really doesn't matter what form your motivation takes. s'long as it works for you, it'll do just fine.

[Anonymous No.1811363]

>>1811282

Wow, I'm in an art slump and beating myself up for forgetting how light and shadow work. Seeing Scott Pilgrim art immediately makes me feel a lot better about my skill level.

[Anonymous No.1811417]

>>1810795
who is the artist for that top picture with grass and shit?

[Anonymous No.1811431]

>>1811417
Kekai Kotaki. He also did the knight pic
His traditional drawings too are goal-tier for me
http://kekai-k.tumblr.com/

[Anonymous No.1812113]

>>1810351

[Anonymous No.1812188]

>>1810997
I vastly prefer yours.


Some areas seem a bit off perspective wise, but I think ultimately it helps give your piece a dreamlike quality. You should post the full thing, would definitely save.

[Anonymous No.1812192]

>>1811363
I seriously doubt your art looks anywhere near as good as that pic, anon.

[Anonymous No.1812215]

>>1811235
i have done sketches like this, take a look at the lines and how shaky it all is... doing this level of work is nothing to hard, at least with the minimal amount of prospective needed... then again i could just be good and not realize it. and this is just for this specific drawing of his, there are many more that are FAR better.

to get better, don't draw detailed things, just draw cubes, spheres and cylinders in perspective... it will help so much more than trying to imitate it from the get go. also... fuck using the brush for now, if you are dead set on ink, use nibs, but the brush will just add a whole new layer of hard to an already semi difficult task.

>>1811262
its really not though... granted it may be a competition with yourself... but once you get to where you want to be... its over. if where you want to be is the best that ever was... well, you will fail, not saying it to be a dick, but millions have tried, and we only remember a handful and that should say something. id rather work toward a personal goal than try to be the best there ever was.

>>1812113
drawing wise you are close to there, now its all in the render.

[Anonymous No.1812237]

>>1812192
But Scott Pilgrim also doesn't know how light works.

[Anonymous No.1812258]

>>1812215
>drawing wise you are close to there, now its all in the render.
That's nice to hear. I got perspective and construction issues though, so still a long way to go.

[Anonymous No.1812297]

[Anonymous No.1812300]

Here's mine, I still have a while I'm currently 18 but hope to get to this stage around 20. I'd like to take on costume designing a bit more because I love it but never do enough of it.

Am I gonna make it /ic/?

[Anonymous No.1812303]

>>1812300

hey man, loving those costumes in the middle left. could you maybe post the one with the 5 characters in full size? would love you forever brah.

beyond that, dude don't worry one bit. you are definitely on track. you can easily be at that level by the time you are 20. keep grinding, be smart about it, and you will most likely be even beyond that by 20. promise.

[Anonymous No.1812306]

>>1812303
Here you go, thanks man I'm in a little bit of a stump right now for drawing. So I'm gonna go on my word and do some costume designs.

[Anonymous No.1812307]

>>1812306
and here's the other one because I wasn't sure if you meant this one or the other.

[Anonymous No.1812308]

>>1812306
I found a bigger version in my other folders.

[Anonymous No.1812311]

>>1812306
>>1812307
>>1812308

thanks man!

[Anonymous No.1812319]

>>1812297
top kek

[Anonymous No.1812332]

>>1812300
Your stuff looks flat, I recommend doing still lifes.

[Anonymous No.1812335]

>>1812319

[Anonymous No.1812346]

>industry artists
Literally dogs of the art world

[Anonymous No.1812389]

>>1812346
whatever fag lol

[Anonymous No.1812390]

>>1810383
that's the spirit

[Anonymous No.1812391]

>>1812346
very well fed dogs

[Anonymous No.1812393]

>>1810795
tbh for some reason I really liked the bottom right pic
some kind of silence to it man

[Anonymous No.1812423]

>>1810805
>Why would an artist not want to exercise his own skill and thus get better?
Deadlines.
You know, the things that actually get you fired if you fail at them, unlike morality and skill.

[Anonymous No.1812428]

>>1810966
>creativity comes later i need to have solid fundamentals first.
You're not gonna make it.

[Anonymous No.1812452]

>>1810392

[Anonymous No.1812456]

>>1812428
I was putting creativity over solid fundamentals, and because of that i cant draw today. So no, you have to study and study and study, until you puke.

[Anonymous No.1812469]

>>1812456
You'll never get anywhere, there is no perfection and no goal, you will always have something to improve upon and because of this you will die without ever producing anything but incipid academic chaff.

[Anonymous No.1812483]

>>1812456
I agree with you to an extent; you shouldn't bother with creativity shit until you grasp the absolute basics (thinking in 3d/getting rid of your symbol drawing, basic perspective, knowing how construction works and how to draw basic 3d prisms, etc etc, but outside of that: do some creative/imaginative stuff you dolt. Putting your knowledge on what you've learned via studies into imaginary works is what makes you learn and grow as an artist the most and fastest.

Shit, the main reason why I grasp perspective and construction well is because I draw fucking Transformers on my free time. I can construct objects from imagination easily because that's what I do a lot. That's an example.

[Anonymous No.1812484]

>>1812483
You can easily structure that as spending an hour or teo going for technical accuracy then the next hour seeing how you can apply it with imagination

[Anonymous No.1812523]

>>1812456
that's dumb. if you were really trying to be creative, ie. really trying to create something you hand in mind you would need to understand the techniques by default. you weren't being creative you were fucking around.

[Anonymous No.1812530]

>>1810351
>Save a painting or drawing by one of your favorite artists.
>Put it next to one of your
>Kill yourself
ftfy

[Anonymous No.1812629]

>>1811071
>Renaissance
Ass sass ins creeed

[Anonymous No.1812707]

>>1812483
Post dem bots!

[Anonymous No.1812721]

>>1812523

no it's not. for a long time it's MUCH more efficient to go hard on fundamentals. if you have 2 years to study, assuming you start from zero, it would be most efficient to spend the entire first year exclusively working on fundamentals, studying hard. before a certain treshold of skill, attempting to put out presentable creative work is an incredibly inefficient use of your time.

[Anonymous No.1812779]

>>1812483
You can't draw effectively without studying the fundamentals first, theres no way around it, otherwise you'll just reinforce your bad habits and make the same mistakes over and over again.

[Anonymous No.1812795]

>>1810687
no. now, you lazy ass.

[Anonymous No.1812801]

>>1810351
Frazetta Niqa Everytime I look at his art I get inspired to draw something not nearly as good ):

[Anonymous No.1812802]

>>1812456
buddy you will never reach the point when your fundementals are so rock solid studies are never necessary again. never. if you are honestly waiting for the day where your work is so perfect to your own eyes that you clap your hands, give up art study, down a milkshake then draw leet concept art dragons with perfect ease for the rest of your days, that day will never come. just draw some fun shit, the imagination needs to be indulged in order to not wither and die. anyone got that admiral ackbar progress pic story?

[Anonymous No.1812820]

>>1812802
I wanna see the Ackbar progress pic story. Looking for it now.

[Anonymous No.1812824]

>>1812802

you are a fucking idiot. nobody ever said anything about master fundamentals.

[Anonymous No.1813188]

>>1812824
Whatever fucker, keep telling yourself you don't desserve to draw yet, but hey maybe tomorrow you'll be good enough!

[Anonymous No.1813207]

One day we'll all be Mullins guys. We're all gonna make it.

[Anonymous No.1813208]

>>1813207
your proportions are really good. Except her nose seems to be looking a different direction than the rest of the face. I'm still jealous though. :/ For some reason, I have the hardest time drawing the female face.

[Anonymous No.1813214]

>>1813208
Thanks man. It's a wip so the mouth and nose still suck, but gonna keep tweaking and maybe fully paint her. I find girls the hardest to do too, love drawing grizzled old or bearded men though, so much more fun.

[Anonymous No.1813245]

>>1813214
Same. I love barbarians and anybody else really muscular and badass so drawing a dainty female is hard.

[Anonymous No.1813252]

>>1813214
in fact you can see in >>1812801
The demon came out far better than the female lol.

[Anonymous No.1813328]

just look here and you'll all feel better about yourself

[Anonymous No.1814017]

[Anonymous No.1814022]

>>1814017
Valkyrie Profile hell yeah bitch

[Anonymous No.1814026]

>>1814017
I imagined your goal would be something like Jake Wyatt or Mike Mignola, considering your drawing style.

[Anonymous No.1814028]

>>1814017
You'll get there.

[Anonymous No.1814061]

i know it may not be much, but be honest

Will i make it?

[Anonymous No.1814072]

>>1814017
Your shit is fucking tight.

Got a tumblr/deviantart/whatever?

[Anonymous No.1814096]

Still a long path

[Anonymous No.1814102]

>>1814096
just add more gloss

[Anonymous No.1814140]

My main problem is never finishing anything. after 30 mins i just feel bored

[Anonymous No.1814174]

>>1810369
suicide isn't the only fucking choice you little whining prick.. go study and learn from all the fucking books ..practice and become a god..

[Anonymous No.1814176]

>>1814140
that´s a chicken?..

[Anonymous No.1814179]

>>1814061
i think you work is better than the one you want..

[Anonymous No.1814194]

>>1814176
yeah i was going to paint a basilisk dragon thing but my laziness makes me a failure :/

[Anonymous No.1814197]

>>1814194
>basilisk
looks more like a cockatrice to me.

[Anonymous No.1814202]

>>1814102
I dont take that simply, there are fails on my lineart and anatomy I need to improve

[Anonymous No.1814206]

>>1814197
to me its the 'same shit, different asshole'. they both kill with a glance and have chicken heads

[Anonymous No.1814307]

>>1814026
Ha ha, I do love me some Hellboy, though.

>>1814028
Thanks, man; I appreciate it.

>>1814072
Hey, thanks. I've got a tumblr, but I definitely need to work on posting more often.

http://ottomensch.tumblr.com/

[Anonymous No.1814443]

>>1812456
if you aren't putting your imagination on the paper
sooner or later it will be forgotten in your brain as you busy on other stuff
like you forget your theories if you didn't write it on a notebook

[Anonymous No.1814444]

>>1812779
no you don't
unless you draw the thing and you didn't bother to relook at it and ask yourself where the problem is
your work is the prove of the progress and flaws

[Anonymous No.1814447]

>>1814179
thanks, that makes me feel real good anon

[Anonymous No.1814463]

im starting to have fun again

>>1814444
nice quads

[Anonymous No.1814470]

>>1814463
i would honestly say you are close.

try adding a harder lightsource to your work and i think you would see how close you are.

yea... looking at the thumbnail, i can clearly see your goald outline at a glance, but yours gets lost, dont have your shit blend into the background, also, do a 3/4 pose.

[Anonymous No.1814481]

>>1814463
>>1814470
Not to sound like a contrarian dick for the hell of it, but anon is far from close. Proportions are there and forms do read, but there's still a ton to learn about color theory and application, edge control, brush economy, composition, mood, establishing a focal point, and more.

Keep at it anon. For now I'd say focus on color temperature changes (especially between light and shadow), using larger brushes whenever you can, using the full spectrum of edges, and being mindful of composition.

[Anonymous No.1814483]

>>1814470
>i would honestly say you are close.
Never post again.

[Anonymous No.1814488]

>>1814470
fucking retard

[Anonymous No.1814489]

>>1814483
and how is he not?
a warmer skin done, some highlights and being able to isolate the person from the background...

s/he figures out how do the the warmer colors, and isolate... i dont think it would look to far off.

really the only way we could say he is that far away is if they have a 3/4th view that is all kinds of fucked up.

or is this one of those "the older artist will always be better because the new one isnt traditional" kind of things? at least from what i can see and its not much of a look, they used a hard round exclusively apposed to a textured brush

[Anonymous No.1814512]

>>1814489
Beginners can't see the subtleties of rendering the form, temperature control, etc. (especially when the painting is kind of fucked by the picture). It's fine you will eventually realize how bad you were when you posted this and you'll feel good about having improved somewhat.
Meanwhile, stop posting.

[Anonymous No.1814515]

>>1814489
Not that Anon (>>1814512), but I'm agreeing with him on this. That poster definitely has years ahead of him/her to get to that level.

[Anonymous No.1814526]

>>1814515
im honestly disregarding everything that isn't the head in this picture and im focusing on the face.

the posters image doesn't have a bright light source or at least a defused one so there are no highlights to work off of. thats one point where the paining looks better, the hair... im giving the poster the benefit of the doubt that they could make it look better if they didn't use a hard round, the painters... hair texture is easier you get with a brush than a hard round...

the posted forehead looks a little too rounded, and there is nothing there for eyebrows and the eyes look just place there, but these are fairly minor things that can be fixed, pallet choice... this anon at least knows how to pick colors and not just blacken what they used to make a shadow.

like i said, if they don't completely botch a 3/4th use a warmer color pallet they would be close.

[Anonymous No.1814534]

>>1814526
>im honestly disregarding everything that isn't the head in this picture
And that's why you're a beginner. There is no such a thing as "disregarding" a part of a painting. Values, color, everything is relative. The very fact that you ignore this is proof that you should shut the fuck up, together with you mentioning sticky-level advice (don't shade with black!). Seriously, stop.

[Anonymous No.1814543]

>>1814526
>im honestly disregarding everything that isn't the head in this picture and im focusing on the face.
You shouldn't, because composition is the most basal aspect of a painting, and it alone can make or break a painting. Compare the two paintings at thumbnail view. Notice how one is much more readable, and much more pleasing to look at. It isn't simply a matter of having a strong light source, as you can find tons of Sargent's paintings with a diffuse light source that's still leagues above anon's painting. Pay attention to how the value groups are arranged, and how your focus is kept on the face. In anon's painting, the back of the head doesn't read at all, and the earring is distractingly high in value.

>im giving the poster the benefit of the doubt that they could make it look better if they didn't use a hard round
You shouldn't. If anon could have painted that hair better, they would have. Don't assume that painting hair convincingly is simply a matter of using a textured brush.

>pallet choice
That's arguably one of the worst parts of anon's painting. There's practically no shift in color temperature. There's no effective use of color contrast. There are no points of interest because everything is the same color or black.

>if they don't completely botch a 3/4th use a warmer color pallet they would be close.
They also have to have the foresight to know how to pose the model, where to place the model on the canvas, how much of the canvas the head should take up, what background elements should be included/excluded. Sargent captured a sense of emotion in his portrait - anon's looks clinical, like a simple photostudy of an unremarkable photo. Then there's brush control, stroke efficiency, and edge control that are all leagues superior in Sargent's. He's considered a master portrait painter for a reason.

[Anonymous No.1814544]

>>1814534
yea, looking at things that clearly are not finished or at least of the same quality. take a look at the left eye and tell me that that same amount of detail is put into the bottom left section of the painting.

clearly im not going to win because its the popular thing here to tell people they are years off at best when a different color pallet and a textured brush would get them CLOSE, again, i said close...

if you honestly cant see where the corners are cut on the painting, and how they got different efects with minimal effort... than you also have allot to learn.

[Anonymous No.1814545]

ahahaha...hah.........h-hah

;_;

[Anonymous No.1814548]

>>1814544
>take a look at the left eye and tell me that that same amount of detail is put into the bottom left section of the painting.
Oh boy you think every part of the painting should have the same level of detail? You're trolling right? Epic, truly epic.

[Anonymous No.1814550]

>>1810383
>that drawing
>shit
anon no

[Anonymous No.1814551]

>>1814545
You're close. Honestly.

[Anonymous No.1814553]

>>1814551
maybe in 50 years....

[Anonymous No.1814561]

>>1814551

[Anonymous No.1814564]

>>1814551
>>1814561
what's it from?

[Anonymous No.1814567]

>>1814564
>>1814470

[Anonymous No.1814568]

fuck, lost what i was writing time to recreate it quick but lasier

>>1814548
no i just said why i disregarded various aspects, they are less finished.

>>1814543
i attribute the paintings ability to pop with the anon making half the background blending with the head. and googled "Sargent's paintings" and thing there are a few on the list that pop worse than the anons

the difference between using a hard round and a texture brush is kind of big when it comes to getting tons of littler details fast, i personally would not want to dick around for hours with a hard round just getting minute details that a texture would bring in... from the thumbnail, i honestly think the anons hair looks nice, where as the paintings looks like it could have long hair, both blend into the background here but anons does it worse. like i said, benefit of the doubt was given because it would be a simple switch to a texture brush that could fix any problem the hair has.

i see a fair amount of color difference, granted its all a cool color in the face, and most of it to be shadows. i would love to see what the anon does with a warmer pallet, shifting that would again, get them close.
probably have to see it in person to feel an emotion from it... but i can tell it has more character than the anons too.

but im done arguing this, you can see him as worse than he is, i see him as a palette swap and a better decision away from close.

[Anonymous No.1814571]

>>1814568
>ability to pop
Dude do you think this is illustration or something? Do you even realize you're talking about fine art? Next thing you'll suggest Sargent should have put some good old chromatic aberration. Yeah that would have made his painting pop more.
You're to dumb to live at this point.

[Anonymous No.1814572]

>>1814470
>>1814481
thank you both anons

[Anonymous No.1814575]

>>1810759
>smaller nostrils
nope
>less bulbous nose
nope
>thicker lips
nope

It's the fucking same, get your eyes checked, just with different colours

[Anonymous No.1814576]

>>1814534
>There is no such a thing as "disregarding" a part of a painting


bro, do you even Manet?

[Anonymous No.1814582]

>>1810987
>What's the matter, Kevin? Did mom not hang your drawing on the fridge today?

Haha! I bet that hurt his feelings!

[Anonymous No.1814583]

>>1814568
>googled "Sargent's paintings" and thing there are a few on the list that pop worse than the anons
Please enlighten me, link them here. I just did the same search and couldn't find one example of anon's painting having a better read from the thumbnail. Not one.

>it would be a simple switch to a texture brush that could fix any problem the hair has.
I promise you that painting hair convincingly is not just a matter of using a textured brush. Try it out for yourself if you don't believe me. On top of that, a ton of pros CAN paint hair convincingly with only a basic round. There's a lot of nuances in simplifying masses, using the correct values, the correct colors and the correct edges that a textured brush don't account for. It's a skill to do it well, but once that skill is learned it can be done regardless of medium or digital brush used.

>a warmer pallet, shifting that would again, get them close.
It's not just a warmer pallet, it's having color CONTRAST. Warms against cools, knowing how warm/cool to go in each area, and doing it all it a way that looks believable, leads the eye where it should, ans is pleasing to look at. If you wanted to see what anon's painting would look like with a warmer palette, just open it up in photoshop and play with the saturation and hue sliders. There's no established groundwork of color temperature changes that would make the painting look good no matter how you adjust the palette. It's all about knowing color theory and being able to execute it.

>you can see him as worse than he is, i see him as a palette swap and a better decision away from close
I'm not here to shit on anybody, but your initial remark is insulting to Sargent and misleading to anon. I'm not gonna turn this into a "post your art" dick-measuring contest, but I promise you that there's a ton of difficult subtlety to masterful portrait painting that you just aren't seeing yet.

[Anonymous No.1814587]

>>1814583
>misleading to anon
I seriously hope we've only got one such idiot in here, the anon who actually posted that image surely understands he is no Sargent.

[Anonymous No.1814628]

[Anonymous No.1814716]

>>1814571
i have a different view point but don't act like im a retard who would say that CA is good in any respect.

>>1814583
i cant say they are all his, i literally just went to google with "Sargent's paintings" and scrolled down, as far as i can see there are a few where everything blends together till you see it larger, and even then blend together...

and i know there is more to hair than a textured brush, im pointing out he used a hard round for a reason, getting that detail takes a hell of alot longer and i can't blame the anon for going good enough and moving on.

i believe i also mentioned that he needed a bright light source, i see this as heavy defuse where there is little to work with in varying colors unless you make up your own. and just opening up photoshop and fucking with it a bit isn't the same as painting it that way, the warmer color palette from the get go would allow him to good cooler, instead of the cool color pallet that can only get coolder if that makes sense.

and i do understand the subtlety that goes into a masterful painting, its hard to put into words, and also isn't the same as a digital painting.

here its not good, but lets equate it to numbers.
the current 0 being a stick figure, and 100 being a you need to test the paint to tell replica anons picture is at about a 20, if he went with a warmer pallet he may get to 30, when he adds the contrast possibly up to 50 and when he gets the 3/4 and he doesn't botch it the fuck up he may get to 70.

the problem is that last 30 points is going to a motherfucker to get.
trust me, i do know what i mean, i just really suck at writing it.

id say just leave it at this or this back and forth will never end.

[Anonymous No.1814816]

>>1814716
>a warmer palette instantly makes a painting better
Too bad it's not even a problem of "warmer" but just relative color contrast, you fucktard. It doesn't look warm because he can't use the colors he's dealing with properly. You can make an entire painting with only blue hues and make it look warm, but this must be beyond your tiny brain.
>i believe i also mentioned that he needed a bright light source
While many artists approved by /ic/ would agree with this, it's not a rule and you can have masterful paintings without heavy directional lighting.
>3/4 is instantly better
Again, you know nothing about composition. There is no angle better then others. You use the angle which fit the painting the most.
>trust me, i do know what i mean, i just really suck at writing it.
Considering you said that on a scale of 0 to 100, this guy is close to a master painting while being 20, I believe you when you call yourself a retard. However, considering all the things you've got wrong (you almost got nothing right) I can't help but feel you're a total beginner.
>id say just leave it at this or this back and forth will never end.
>Please stop arguing with me I'm going to cry
Yeah sure.

[Anonymous No.1814832]

>>1814628
Holy shit, I can't even tell what you're trying to depict here.

[Anonymous No.1814846]

top kek

[Anonymous No.1814881]

>>1814846

who painted image on left? looks awesome wanna look the guy up plz tell

[Anonymous No.1814882]

>>1814881
it's a woman not a guy

[Anonymous No.1814883]

>>1814882
Thanks, I'm checking my privilege right now.

[Anonymous No.1814891]

>>1814882

by 'guy' i meant the guy who painted it. not the person in the painting.

[Anonymous No.1814902]

>>1814891
oh ok. you should of said. you were completely unclear. the guys name is bedini i believe, 19th century.

[Anonymous No.1814978]

>>1814716
>i cant say they are all his, i literally just went to google with "Sargent's paintings"
It's troubling when you can be so assertive but can't tell which paintings are by Sargent. It should be very apparent in quality, but you could always cross reference an art database.

>im pointing out he used a hard round for a reason, getting that detail takes a hell of alot longer
It doesn't have to be if you soften the edge of the hard round for where you need softer edges. Just because anon painted it a certain way doesn't mean we can give him the benefit of the doubt that he capable of doing better. If he was capable of better, then he would have painted it better. Paintings don't come with a time stamp stating how much time was spent, and even if they did people who know how to paint hair won't need much time at all.

>the warmer color palette from the get go would allow him to good cooler, instead of the cool color pallet that can only get coolder
So a warmer starting palette gives him room to go cooler, but a cooler starting palette doesn't give him room to go warmer? Either way he isn't using grays effectively, so it's safe to assume that he still needs to study up on color theory and relativity.

>and i do understand the subtlety that goes into a masterful painting...
I was speaking to the knowledge and execution, not the tools used. It wasn't a remark about oil painting being different or harder, but about knowledge and execution.

>anons picture is at about a 20...he may get to 70.
And I pose that if anon's picture is currently at a 20, all of the adjustments you suggested would bring it up to a 30 at best. You again seem to neglect key parts like edge control, brush efficiency, and above all composition. Changing the angle of the head, adding contrast, and starting with a warmer palette won't suddenly make anon's painting that substantially closer to a Sargent, and that's assuming anon could pull off your suggestions successfully on the first go.

[Anonymous No.1815033]

Im still wondering in the dark. but slowly and steadly I move onwards!

[Anonymous No.1815047]

>>1814140
Lol that bottom pic is a ripoff combining two paintings by much better artists. The dragon is from a Jaime Jones painting, and the bike I forget, but was some really skilled guy who posted on cghub.

[Anonymous No.1815059]

>>1811047
>ripped up his digital painting

[Anonymous No.1815078]

>>1815059
*a PRINT of his digital painting, silly nigga

[Anonymous No.1815104]

>>1813207
right > left already, gj

[Anonymous No.1815137]

>>1810351
>>1810351
Her art is just so fluid and appealing to the eye. My anatomy is worlds away and I can't stop making my stuff look too stiff no matter what

[Anonymous No.1815153]

>>1815137
Do you even FEEL the gesture?

[Anonymous No.1815163]

[Anonymous No.1815198]

>>1810709
yo landi
HYPE HYPE HYPE

[Anonymous No.1815239]

So faaaaaaaaaaar away

[Anonymous No.1815243]

>>1815239

dear god. aim a bit lower plz.

[Anonymous No.1815255]

>>1815243
;_;

[Anonymous No.1815265]

>>1815033
whats that piece on the left??

[Anonymous No.1815266]

>>1815255

meant higher.

[Anonymous No.1815267]

>>1815239
doesn't anybody stay in one place anymore?

[Anonymous No.1815407]

[Anonymous No.1815412]

>>1815265
Nissa, Worldwaker

[Anonymous No.1815413]

>>1815407
Your picture looks nice, I can almost feel the rough texture

[Anonymous No.1815424]

>>1815413
random scratchy marks, tough to fuck up. pretty easy to make a woodcut look rough.

[Anonymous No.1815436]

I don't even have any art worth showing. I mostly delete my stuff. just cut together some images pretty randomly. I try to do a little bit of everything. My experience is low, but my knowledge is high so the difference between trying and not trying is really large. I still have high standards so when i come back to a piece i was happy with i just look at it and see problems everywhere and delete it. try harder next time.

[Anonymous No.1815449]

>>1815137
Man I hate Katie. Because of pic related.

I was unaware that I did that, and I was happy.

[Anonymous No.1815481]

dont laugh

[Anonymous No.1815489]

>>1810383
>>1810394
>>1810997
>>1813207
>>1814545
>>1815436

Best ones ITT. prove me wrong

[Anonymous No.1815490]

>>1815489
you have to prove yourself right first....

[Anonymous No.1815492]

>>1815481

I honestly like yours way more than the stuff on left

[Anonymous No.1815497]

>>1815490
strongest grasp on anatomy, light, creativity, indication of further potential, etc, etc.

[FiRez !!tndrCZJHE+I No.1815501]

>>1815492
This

[Anonymous No.1815506]

>>1815497
>strongest graps on anatomy

no, all those are are copies from models aside from >>1810394, you don't need to know tons of anatomy to do observational drawings, someone like frazetta >>1812801 and other animators/comic artist
has more knowledge on anatomy given they needs to draw a lot of them in different poses and sometimes without ref.

>light
yes, that's what most painters strives at.

>creativity
half of them are just portraits.....

>indication of further potential
everyone has it...

thanks for playing.

[Anonymous No.1815509]

[Anonymous No.1815511]

>>1815506
I'm guessing I didnt pick you. But good attempt at proving my opinions wrong....

[Anonymous No.1815514]

>>1815511
>I'm guessing I didnt pick you

you're right, because I never posted any of those.

>But good attempt at proving my opinions wrong....

in the end, it's all opinions.

[Anonymous No.1815517]

>>1815514
then why are we arguing

[Anonymous No.1815518]

>>1815517
because 4chan

[Anonymous No.1815532]

>>1815509
damn, now I'm craving for some artgerm porn art.

[Anonymous No.1815548]

>>1815489
The last one didn't even post his own work so you are wrong

[Anonymous No.1815562]

>>1815481
>stuf on right is superior

[Anonymous No.1815564]

>>1815548
whoops, I assumed the work on the right side was his.

disregard that one then. the others still stand though

[Anonymous No.1815569]

a lot of people itt are emulating lame DnD art

if you like nerdstuff at least aim higher

[Anonymous No.1815580]

>>1815509
>you will never master the soft round brush like whoever the nigga is on the left done did.

[Anonymous No.1815591]

>inb4 HURR DURR ANIMU SUCKS
I hate it because I cant get the improvements I want and every time I start drawing I hate all of what Im doing

[Anonymous No.1815613]

[Anonymous No.1815614]

>>1815591
>aims at a painted mech and background
>instead does animu lineart + colour

Dude what.

[Anonymous No.1815615]

>>1815614
I have to start somewhere. Besides, yoshinari you also does stuff with lineart, what Im mostly aiming for is the colouring

[Anonymous No.1815618]

>>1815591
If you want to get good at drawing animu is the last place to start

[Anonymous No.1815634]

>>1810709
Nissa, Worldwaker. It's based off of the character Nissa. Not that complicated

[Anonymous No.1815677]

>>1815580
Turns out the nigga on the left uses a hard flat for his works. It's in his livestreams

[Anonymous No.1815734]

Slooooowly getting there. Another year or two I reckon and I'll be close. Reiq is genuinely good at drawing though, even though he looks like a one-trick-pony. Getting to that level will be longer.

[Anonymous No.1815742]

>>1815618
It's actually as good a place as any to start. If you want to get good at anime, you need a strong understanding of perspective, foreshortening, dynamic poses and anatomy. People who are decent at drawing anime tend to have a very good eye for aesthetic proportions. The biggest problem people who start out with realism seem to have is that they can't draw for shit because they start way too early to get into painting.

[Anonymous No.1815743]

>>1815569
That looks like shit. If that's what "aiming higher" means to you, then you really shouldn't be talking down to anybody, as you are the lowest of the low skill wise.

[Anonymous No.1815747]

>>1815677
Nigga is you for real?

[Anonymous No.1815756]

>>1815742
That is just big bunch of bullshit right there. You will not get good at proportions, foreshortening, dynamic poses or anatomy by drawing anime. You will not start painting too early or whatever preposterous you are suggesting if you study fundamentals. Basics =/= realism =/= painting.

Draw gesture and figures until you learn the fundamentals, then you can do stylization just fine because you will have basic drawing skills necessary to work with

[Anonymous No.1815761]

>>1815756
not that guy, but
>You will not get good at proportions, foreshortening, dynamic poses or anatomy by drawing anime.
oh yes, you will. but that is aside from learning fundamentals and construction.

[Anonymous No.1815958]

>>1815743
don't be a huge idiot and call DiTerlizzi shit

[Anonymous No.1816019]

[Anonymous No.1816176]

>>1816019
Don't we all...

[Anonymous No.1816182]

>>1816176
to be honest i'd rather be on a computer than at the beach

[Anonymous No.1816193]

>>1816182
I don't like wires. They're coarse and irritating and they get everywhere. I wanna dip my toes in some soft and smooth sand.

[Anonymous No.1816439]

>>1815761
if anime is your only guide and your eye is untrained, you will not be able to pick the stuff worth learning from the animes of your choice

[Anonymous No.1818947]

>>1810383

Yours reminds me of Shinkawa art.

[Anonymous No.1819125]

>>1810822
source on this image?