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Does /ic/ have a drawing level info-graphic?

Something that shows drawing on different stages of learning and the material they should be studying?

I mean so people can do a quick comparison between their work and the examples, make an educated guess of where they are, and see what they should be reading.

An unified one would be pretty hard to pull off, but one for anatomy, other for perspective, lighting, etc?

>> No.1778783

I don't think /ic/ could pull off something like that.

>> No.1778788

>>1778783
It would be easy to make, it just is chem consuming. Honestly it only needs to go up to like low-middle tier art, since by that point you already would know how to keep progressing further (it would also be more personalized at that point) and you already should have the fundamentals down pretty well.

>> No.1778790

>>1778788
time* consuming, autocorrect fucked it up

>> No.1778794

>>1778779

i'll take it upon myself to create one!

might take a while tho.

brb

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1778796

>>1778794

godspeed anon

>> No.1778800

>>1778796

i give up. sry. started collecting stuff from the drawthreads and the beginners thread but i quickly realized i would offend a fuckton of people and it's very difficult to even remotely asses what step on the tier-ladder a drawing belongs on without context or atleast some similarity in subject matter
.

>> No.1778804

>>1778800

>i would offend a fuckton of people


do it faggot

>> No.1778805

I honestly don't think an infographic is necessary.

If what you draw doesn't look like the reference (whether it's life or photo), then you're low tier. Work on shape recognition and reproduction, visual measuring, simplifying and focusing on big shapes before refining down to smaller shapes.

If you can do that, but what you draw from imagination looks like shit, then you need to learn perspective, basic forms, complex forms and construction, study how light works, and expand your visual library.

You can technically subdivide from there, but the problem areas will be different for everyone. One person in stage 1 might have a strong grasp of proportions before values, while another might have a strong grasp of values and not proportions. Not everything can be reduced to a basic order where anyone can accurately look up where they are because people aren't starting at the same point or studying the same way.

The only definitive 'rule' to abide by is to practice whatever you're weakest at. Whatever you can't do, learn how to do, but focus on more basal skills first (i.e. don't try to learn color when your values are equally weak).

>> No.1778815

>>1778779
I don't think this is such a good idea. Every artists learns, progresses and draws differently and I can say from personal experience that this will lead to frustration when your stuff doesn't look exactly like the example or you haven't fully grasped a concept like it says you should have by a certain point.

>> No.1778817

>>1778800
You can just ask anons or do it anyways. It's not like they aren't posting their shit to 4chan on their own will, would be different if you went and dug around in dA for shitty art

>> No.1778821

>>1778815

rules of thumb are still useful tho

>> No.1778835

Get one of the art Gods you follow on FB/Twitter to make one. Watch everyone argue their art God is better and therefore the infographic is worthless.

>> No.1778851

>>1778800
Also, some artists have different levels in different areas. I'm a good draftsman, but pretty bad at painting.

>> No.1779207

If one person makes one, somebody will call it bullshit and make their own. This process would repeat until we have like 100, which would be perfect since it would give people choice one what they think would be best for them.
Somebdoy make it.

>> No.1779209

>>1779207
Nah, it's a ton of work as the other anon who quit already pointed out. If someone gathers like 50 artworks of varying levels then it would be easier to do, but collecting all of that will be a pain.

Maybe if there was a thread where people could submit their own artwork to be a part of the chart it would be more realistic? Also would get around the issue of grabbing someone's art who doesn't want it to be used or who will get insulted.

>> No.1779228
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1779228

I made this plebby infographic once to show some anon what the difference between basic and advanced is. probably not what OP is asking for, but maybe it can get you some ideas.

>> No.1779238

Noob - Do perspective books.
Straight lines
Boxes, Cylindars, Circles, Ellipses
Still lifes
Value

Beginner - Do form books.
Gestures
Line confidence
Value

Amateur - Do anatomy books.
Figure studies
Value

Onwards - repeat what you're the worst at and develop all your skills
Lineweight and other tricks.
Value
Colour
Rendering

Mastery - Congratulations, you are dead. You can rest now.

As always you need to draw well before you can paint well. Do not become one of the pathetic people who plateu because they don't realize they are masters at polishing turds.

You don't need more than that for an infographic.

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1779241

took some random image from the beginner thread

>> No.1779338

>>1779228
You'd think gesture would be pretty important when starting out.

>> No.1779363

>>1779338
Well, isn't it more helpful for beginners to learn proportion and perspective before attempting it?

The reason you can tell the difference between as stick figure and a gesture drawing is that the latter shows an artist's knowledge of the human form.

>> No.1779365

>>1779338
nah, this want a tutorial or anything.
it's more about what layers there are between simple and complex.

>> No.1779369

>>1779363
I see your point, one thing I've noticed though, is that beginners who practice gesture usually have better line control later down the line.

>> No.1779431

>>1779363
Proportion comes from gesture drawing. you will learn to see if something is off, simply put. thats what 30 sec drawings are for. So I in all sincerety, disagree with you.
I don't even understand what people are meaning in "studying proportions". If it isn't gesture drawing, I don't even understand how one can learn proportions.

>> No.1779432

>>1779431
lol a beginner's 30 second gesture will be shit with shit proportions, it won't teach them anything. Better to do a lot of 5 and 10 minute drawings.

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>>1779431
>If it isn't gesture drawing, I don't even understand how one can learn proportions.

srsly anon?

>> No.1779458

>>1779432
2 minutes maximum that is needed even for the worst of beginners. its gesture not a detailed drawing.