Efficient Study Schedule

[Anon No.1767248]

So how are you meant to go about learning all the necessary skills in the most efficient way? Is it best to say, stick to only anatomy and gestures etc for a few weeks/months until you get good at it? Or do a bit of everything everyday, a few environment studies, anatomy, perspective etc etc?

Also what is everyones daily schedule and how is it working out for you?

[Anonymous No.1767357]

>>1767248

Another guy that wants a schedule and a map to become a great artist.

[Anon No.1767364]

>>1767357
Just a guide would be nice, everyone always goes on about efficiency but says nothing practical

[Anonymous No.1767425]

http://youtu.be/hoIdEzOykok?t=2h11m32s

this might help.

[Anonymous No.1767428]

You know how kids learn so fast? They play, they have fun. Pick up a medium. Play in it. Try new things, try to do things in bizarre ways that make your head hurt. At some point you'll look back and realize how much you learned that no one could teach you with 80 textbooks.

[Anonymous No.1767432]

>>1767357
Thirded

[Anonymous No.1767434]

>>1767248
>Also what is everyones daily schedule and how is it working out for you?

Doing what is interesting to me at that point. Being interested in what you are doing is far better than some nazi ordnung routine you hate and get bored with and that makes you hate doing art.

[Anonymous No.1767436]

>>1767248

- Look up "Pomodoro Technique"
- Pick your subject: color, figure, composition, etc.
- Rinse and repeat

[Anonymous No.1767450]

>>1767425

at what point does he talk about it?

[Anon No.1768110]

>>1767425
Thanks a lot, this is pretty helpful

The main question I was trying to ask is if it is better to stick to a subject for a while or do a variation everyday, just want to know how whats easier to commit ideas to memory, the reason I ask is because I dont want to waste time studying poorly because I have already wasted too much time practicing the wrong way

[Anonymous No.1768216]

>>1767248
Who the fuck would put a ladder like that. It's a lawsuit waiting to happen.

[Anonymous No.1768247]

>>1768216
asking the important questions

[Anonymous No.1768250]

could I get some input on this and these:
>>1768006
>>1767949

prepping for a comic, I want to have at least somewhat of a handle on lineart before I start inking.

[one and only true tehmeh No.1768262]

>>1767248
Here's a schedule

7.00AM : Wake up, take a shit
7.15AM : Browse 4chan, play vidya
2.00AM : Go to sleep.

Don't forget to copy b/w photo of a nude chick in between that, and flood the draw thread with it.

[Anon No.1768263]

>>1768262
Haha, mfw when this is how i used to practice somewhat similar to this, just less vidya

[Anonymous No.1768269]

>>1767248
As Matt Kohr says just practice things 100 times
you can mix it up with different subjects, do some gestures here, environments there, perspective, various body parts, lines and ellipses, whatever
but you have to rack up 100 of each thing
you want mileage but don't simply plow through it
pay attention to what you're doing and don't use an eraser to fix mistakes
work lightly or make some little marks to let your eye know where things ought to be so the drawing doesn't get too busy with corrections

What you need to practice depends on your goals
if you're working on fundamentals then just grab a How To book and go from one end to the other
Keys To Drawing is a good one
maybe pair that up with Scott Robertson's book when you get to working on perspective

[Anonymous No.1768286]

>>1767357
>>1767432
Someone should make that.
When you're new to something it's often nice to have a tangible guide. It wouldn't be an absolute truth obviously, but something that gets you started and you can then modify as it suits you.

[Anon No.1768291]

>>1768269
Yeah ive recently started to have a goal in my studies which helps out a lot, thanks for the tip

>>1768286
Yeah exactly, I never said that I thought it was going to make me a perfect artist by following a certain study guide, just /ic being /ic I guess

[Anonymous No.1768294]

>>1767364
if there was a "way" to do these things it wouldn't be all that fun

the way is that there is no way. there's a basic set of knowledge which you are free to practice at any time you wish concerning color, lighting, perspective, texture, anatomy, etc. the ways these things are learned is by doing. the only way to learn is by doing.

just as your body only adapts to the force of feet on pavement or hands wrapped around iron, the mind only adapts to the stress that comes from having to ask the hard questions and search for a long time for the right answers.

and it is real stress. once you accept that real learning is difficult and stressful, and that life in general is difficult and stressful, it paradoxically becomes easier.

[Anonymous No.1768302]

>>1767248
take care of the minutes and let the hours take care of themselves

[Anonymous No.1768362]

>>1768286
it's not like the sticky doesn't serve as a general map of exactly that or anything...

[Anonymous No.1768395]

>>1767436
Someone on /ic/ said that this technique was really great and efficient

I'll try it

[Anonymous No.1768404]

>>1768362

General map more as in, do this area first using these texts, and then do this next, and then this, and so on.

The hardest thing I'm struggling with as a beginner is not knowing where I should start learning my fundamentals. If you attend or did attend and art school this isn't a problem because they give you a framework to work around. For anyone else, you're basically being thrown into the deep end when people say "just learn fundamentals".

I didn't know where to start so I just choose randomly and landed on perspective, picked up Scott Robertsons book, and am working through it at the moment page by page. After I do this, I'll probably look for a more contemporary figure drawing textbook than Loomis and work through that from start to finish too. After that, fuck knows what I'll work on. Maybe find something on composition, or design elements, or colour theory.

[Anonymous No.1768407]

>>1767436
Oh hey so I guess I already kinda do that with workrave, then. Okay. Cool.

[Anonymous No.1768414]

>>1768404
Does nobody ever google what the fundamentals are? They're normally listed from first thing you should learn to last. Here, since you're having trouble.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elements_of_art
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principles_of_art

[Anonymous No.1768425]

>>1768414

Most of these are compositional or technical. Learning these will not teach me how to draw the human form accurately from memory.

[Anonymous No.1768454]

>>1768425
The hell are you smoking? These are standard things that are gone over in art books and classes. This is all stuff that you learn so that you have the tools to be able to draw the human form.

For example, you want to draw a leg. You break it down into simpler 3d forms, put down accurate lines to make shapes (maybe drawing across the forms as well which makes them 3d), then you'd flesh it out with value so the form can be seen.
How are these not things you would need to know?

[Anonymous No.1768886]

>>1768454

You're missing the point. You can't break something down into various forms without knowing and undertstanding what it actually looks like. Like I said, these may be technical approaches to problems, but they certainly wont provide any foundation of actual applicable knowledge without real studies.

[Anon No.1769139]

Well, this turned into a shitstorm pretty fast