I'm in love

[Anonymous No.1763188]

This program guys. Its like someone looked at Photoshop, realized all the shit that its missing and just added all of it and improved smoothness. Every day of using it I'm discovering new stuff that makes me wonder why the fuck Photoshop still doesnt have it.

[Anonymous No.1763191]

>>1763188
The only thing that I miss right now is liquify, but Manga has a much better/more precise warp tool, so I can live without it.

Also, I dont draw manga at all, just fyi.

[Anonymous No.1763203]

>>1763188
>wonder why the fuck Photoshop still doesnt have it

Because Adobe doesnt give shit about painters thats why.

>2014
>photoshop still doesnt have symmetry

[Anonymous No.1763225]

>>1763188

lol. fucking hobbyists.

[Anonymous No.1763226]

>>1763225
What?

[Anonymous No.1763249]

>>1763226

peasants. stick to your weirdass patchwork software. if i was an AD and i read "manga studio" i would instantly throw your application into the trash

[Anonymous No.1763250]

>>1763249
go photoshop!

[Anonymous No.1763253]

>>1763249
> if i was an AD

it's safe to use ms5 forever then, top kek.

[Anonymous No.1763259]

>>1763249
>use software thats a more advanced version of photoshop
>get called a peasant
>never change ic

[Anonymous No.1763379]

>>1763188
>Every day of using it I'm discovering new stuff that makes me wonder why the fuck Photoshop still doesnt have it.

Pretty much everyone's reaction when they use the program for the first time. And to think that we all thought "manga studio? sounds like a cash-grabber for weeaboos" before actually using it.

[Anonymous No.1763401]

>>1763249

>2014
>not using gimp like a hardass

[Anonymous No.1763407]

>>1763188
>not calling it clipstudio

I'd be ashamed of having in my desktop something called "manga" studio

[Anonymous No.1763890]

>>1763225
One day, PS die-hard fans will actually explain why it is so much better you can't touch anything else if you want to git gud.
Protip : most alternatives can read and write .psd.

[Anonymous No.1763904]

>>1763379
>And to think that we all thought "manga studio? sounds like a cash-grabber for weeaboos" before actually using it.

Thats exactly what I thought, then I tried it and never used Photoshop for drawing or painting again. But shhh dont tell them, keep the Adobe diehards in their pen.

[Anonymous No.1763906]

>>1763904

bet ya 10$ your work is total shit and you didn't use even 1% of photoshops power anyway

[Anonymous No.1765358]

>>1763906
What's Photoshop power? How would it really help to draw? All you need is brushes and layers to draw.

[Anonymous No.1765361]

>>1765358
I agree to some extent, but Photoshop is snappier and more fluid to use overall. When you have 20 years of code to build on you find ways to optimize that other people haven't.

[Anonymous No.1765363]

>>1765361
>Photoshop is more fluid
0/10 bait

[Anonymous No.1765366]

>>1765361
go home adobe, you're drunk.

[Anonymous No.1765370]

>>1765361
>photoshop is fluid

[Anonymous No.1765377]

>>1765370
They called it Photoshop because you do shopping on your pictures

[Anonymous No.1765381]

Photoshop is better for paintings.

[Anonymous No.1765485]

>>1763188
It's funny, seeing that the artist in the OP still insists on using Photoshop after doing that promotional image.

[Anonymous No.1765663]

>>1765381
How so? (real question)

Seems to me for painting Manga Studio is better in every way than Photoshop.

[Anonymous No.1765668]

If Manga Studio is so great, why doesn't Jaime Jones use it?

checkmate, /ic/

[Anonymous No.1765670]

>>1765485
Who's the artist?

[Anonymous No.1765700]

>>1765670
Stanley Lau

[Anonymous No.1765707]

>>1765485

Because he's used PS for ages, I believe.

Not go all "hurr muh app is bettar", it's just if you're starting on doing digital art right now and you're comparing features and prices between the two, MS has a better bang-for-the-buck than PS if you have to pay for a license.

All in all, the compatibility of .psd files makes any point moot between software. You use what you wanna.

[Anonymous No.1765725]

>>1765670
Artgerm., Stanley Lau

[Anonymous No.1765800]

>>1765381
Photoshop is like using a swiss-army knife when you need to open a wine bottle

Manga Studio is using the actual wine opener.

[Anonymous No.1765815]

>>1765800
What's GIMP in this analogy?

[Anonymous No.1765819]

>>1765815
a hammer

[Anonymous No.1765824]

>Fighting over software
this is some /g/ tier shit right here, no program's going to make your art better.

[Anonymous No.1765847]

>>1765819
Lies and slander! There's also a screwdriver. You drive a screw into the cork and pull it out with the hook end of the hammer.
It's so easy once you know the user interface. I don't understand why people still use other software.

[Anonymous No.1765853]

>>1765847
> I don't understand why people still use other software

because it's better.

[Anonymous No.1765855]

>>1765819
HAHAHAHAHA

May I ask what MSPaint is?

[Anonymous No.1765872]

>>1765855
MS Paint is just grabbing the bottle and smashing the neck off on the nearest hard surface.
Real men need no fancy tools.

[Anonymous No.1765873]

anyone got them frenden ms brushes? and would like to share?

[Anonymous No.1765892]

>>1765663
If it is better in every way, it wouldn't be a hidden gem, it would be the industry standard.

[Anonymous No.1765921]

>>1765892
I said "better for painting", not better overall. Photoshop has insane amounts of utility for photo editing which Manga studio doesnt at all, but its the other way around when it comes to painting.

Unless someone can finally answer how Photoshop is better than MS for painting.

[Anonymous No.1765934]

Since I don't really paint yet, are there any PS-alternatives for drawing?

[Anonymous No.1765953]

>>1765892
I don't understand why people still think Manga Studio was introduced to the market to replace Photoshop. It can't and it won't because they are not made for the same purpose.

Not to mention: Adobe has the market locked down for the foreseeable future. Someone will have to create one hell of an application suite to ever compete with them.

[Anonymous No.1765957]

>>1765873
>pirating brush sets

You can't ask your mom for 5 bucks, swamp rat?

[Anonymous No.1765959]

>>1765934
krita
but what's the difference between drawing and painting?
>>1765957
pirate brushes for pirate software man

[Anonymous No.1765970]

>>1765800
Best analogy I've seen.

>>1765892
Krita is better for painting than PS, and yet it's not the industry standard either.

[Anonymous No.1765977]

>>1765872
Thanks for the laugh.

[Anonymous No.1766035]

>>1765970
At this point Krita is too sluggish and unstable to be useful in Windows, it's like the worst qualities of Photoshop and Painter cobbled together. For now I'm sitting that one out as well.

[Anonymous No.1766037]

>>1765934
>>1765959
Krita's nice for both, but if you want a faster light-weight version just for noodling you can try Mypaint.

[Anonymous No.1766038]

>>1765800
What's SAI in this analogy?

[Anonymous No.1766039]

>>1766038
Boxed Wine.

[Anonymous No.1766041]

Mah niggas. I tried to use photoshit but it's such a pain in the ass to do anything compared to Manga studio. Like, why do I HAVE to use ctrl or shift or alt to make a shortcut? Why does my scroll wheel not resize my eraser when my stylus is upside down? Why can't I do whatever I want with my stylus buttons?

I want to like photoshop, but ms cuts out all that nonsensical bulls hit, so I always go back to it.

[Anonymous No.1766044]

>>1766041
>Like, why do I HAVE to use ctrl or shift or alt to make a shortcut?
I don't understand, isn't that what the express keys are for?
> Why does my scroll wheel not resize my eraser when my stylus is upside down?
isn't that what the ring is for?
>? Why can't I do whatever I want with my stylus buttons?
Why would you want pick something different from a right click/pan/alt for the pen buttons?

[Anonymous No.1766051]

>>1766041
I really love the little thoughtful things in Manga Studio. Like today I discovered why my brush list is still fully visible in its window despite adding new stuff to it - the font automatically resizes to fit all of the brushes so you dont have to scroll through shit.

The UI in general is really good.

[Anonymous No.1766054]

>>1766044
Shit nigga that's your desk and your notebook? Real nice.

[Anonymous No.1766059]

>>1766044
1. Not everyone has a fancy Intuos.
2. I've got my stylus buttons bound to ctrl+z and X

[Anonymous No.1766072]

>>1766059

Why???? ctrl+z and x is right next to each other.

[Anonymous No.1766115]

>>1766044
Yes, but I only have 8 express keys. As for the ring, put your sylus's eraser to the pad, now spin the ring to resize it. Does it work? No. It resizes only the tool that is set to the point end of your stylus, the brush typically, and that's fucking stupid.
and maybe I want to set the eyedropper to the stylus button, how about that? Will photoshit let me do it? Fuck no and fuck photoshop

[Anonymous No.1766119]

>PShit still doesn't have a proper color wheel working

top kek

[Anonymous No.1766405]

>>1766072
I'm a southpaw with a laptop, so using the keyboard for shortcuts is rather uncomfortable, even if I rebound them to be near the numpad.

[Germany No.1766406]

>>1766405
The fuck is a southpaw?

[Anonymous No.1766407]

>>1766406
Left-handed.

[Germany No.1766410]

>>1766407
Doesn't this setup work for you?:
left hand on tablet
right hand rests on keyboard
tablet is closer to you, both are in front of you, rather than side-by-side?

[Anonymous No.1766434]

>>1766410
That's what I do now, except "front" is more like "halfway into my lap" since my desk isn't that large. It's still not ideal to reach towards the keyboard like that, but for the most part I don't have to, either.

[Anonymous No.1766449]

>>1765959
Wouldn't you saying drawing with a pencil only is different than painting?

>>1765959
>>1766037
Thanks

[Anonymous No.1766461]

Is it better for painting as well or only for drawing?

[Anonymous No.1766490]

>>1765485
Stanley Lau uses Corel painter.

[Anonymous No.1766496]

>>1766115
get yourself a gaming keypad, they are easy to customize and the settings are even saved on the device itself. You will realize that those express keys on the intous are extremely uncomfortable to use and on top of they are nearly not enough to keep your hand away from the keyboard.

[Anonymous No.1767061]

>>1766035
>At this point Krita is too sluggish and unstable to be useful in Windows
Are you on Windows 98? Did you tried the last version? Seriously now, people who say Krita is unusable, how much ram do you have?

[You're Mom No.1767067]

>>1767061
It's unusable for me personally, I get some weird error that crashes the software of Gemini on boot. I bought it on steam because of the potential I believe it has to be a good and legally free program for others so I'm not too bugged about it (I already own photoshop after all). It's a shame the developers weren't able to help me but whatever, it's all good nigga!

[Anonymous No.1767076]

So are there any good videos or tutorials on MS5 you guys could reccomend or do I have to fumble blindly and retardedly through google and youtube and DA

[Anonymous No.1767111]

>>1767076
Smith Micro publishes their own tutorials on using MS5 on their site
http://manga.smithmicro.com/tutorials/manga5/overview.html

Manuals: http://manga.smithmicro.com/documentation/

[Anonymous No.1767121]

>>1767061
16Gb RAM

[Anonymous No.1767356]

>>1763188
OP here, still in love with this program, but encountered first real problem:

Why are there so many damn points in my vector lines? Is there a setting anywhere to fix this? Its a nightmare to fix a line by moving the points when you have thirty of them in every line for no real reason.

Thus far Ive been using simplify line on everything, but I dont think this is how its supposed to be.

[Anonymous No.1767381]

Im a photoshop die hard fan, been using it for about 10 years now, and all the other software for painting was always one step below photoshop.


You can spew your arguments all day, it wont change anything.

[Anonymous No.1767469]

>>1767121
clean / reformat your pc scrub

[Anonymous No.1767471]

>>1767381
good for you man, but you know, software is catching up, and 3 months for ps is the price for the full software

[Anonymous No.1767634]

>>1767356
>Why are there so many damn points in my vector lines? Is there a setting anywhere to fix this?

There's a simplify vector line tool.

[Anonymous No.1767685]

>>1767634
>There's a simplify vector line tool.

>Ive been using simplify line on everything

[Anonymous No.1767716]

>>1767685
>>1767356
I missed that line.

If you are already using the tool, then what's the problem? Why don't you just use the pitch vector line to adjust your lines instead?

[Anonymous No.1767752]

>>1767716
>Why don't you just use the pitch vector line to adjust your lines instead?

Ah. Well, my bad I guess, I was using the control point thing the whole time (SAI style) instead of pinch tool.

[Anonymous No.1768100]

>>1766496
That's a good idea. Which gaming pads have scroll wheels that can be used with an intuos to like zoom in and out or whatever?

[Anonymous No.1768134]

>>1767356
i can´t drawn with the mouse

i need a wacom and for that i hate it

[Anonymous No.1768141]

>tfw left handed
>tfw I'm drawing and i make a mistake and drop my tablet pen to press ctrl+z
>tfw I lost focus everytime I have to do it
Being left handed is pain.

[Anonymous No.1768185]

>>1763890
I use PS at work to touch up photos, so considering I make real money from my expertise in it, I'm glad I never switched to Painter or Manga Studio in my personal artwork.

[Anonymous No.1768186]

>>1768141
>PRESSING CONTROL Z
GET TRADITIONAL FAGGOT

[Anonymous No.1768193]

>>1765707
>pay for a license
>mfw

[Anonymous No.1768230]

>>1768141

I'm left handed too but I've never really considered it a bother. Then again I think I might use my right hand? Its kina muscle memory-esque now, ill pay attention later to it when Im home.

[Anonymous No.1768280]

>>1768230
I reconfigured my undo to ctrl + / . Seemed to be effective... However, God forbid I open anything I don't normally use.

[Anonymous No.1768282]

>>1765707
So what you're saying is it's the technical skill and art skill of the artist and not necessarily the software!?

The only real PS has over most other art programs is the availability of brushes which only exists thanks to pirates. The availability of brushes also helps Adobe make sales to companies. It's a symbiotic relationship that I doubt Adobe wants to pour drugs into.

PS is only better if an artists knows it better than any other program. Though, I wish Adobe would learn from Paint Tool Sai's water color...

[Anonymous No.1768384]

>MS5 has vector tools
Cool!
>playing with anchors is rubbish
Fuck
>can't export as EPS or any other vector file
Literally my only complaint. I work with other contractors and need to be able to share files, so not having something Illustrator compatible is kind of a bummer.

Everything else is excellent though. Brushes, panels, pages, halftone, color mixing. Really excellent.

[Anonymous No.1768399]

>>1768141
So program one of your pen's buttons to ctrl+z? Or one of your tablet's buttons and use your right hand for it.

[Anonymous No.1768406]

>>1768384
I've been overlaying black and 'clear' (transparent) ink strokes to get the lines to look right. It's memory-consumptive, and can take a while, but it works out in the end.

[Anonymous No.1768422]

>>1768406
the clear brush option is just so great, since I usually just paint white over the black lineart to get it the way I like

[Anonymous No.1771834]

Just a heads up, it's for sale at 19 dollars on Amazon.
>inbe4 "marketer pls go"

[Anonymous No.1771838]

Is there any way to quickly throw down horizontal and vertical lines in MS5?

Like in PS you can just hold down shift and then you're only able to draw vertically or horizontally, is there a setting I can change to make it do that?

[Anonymous No.1771847]

>>1768422

How is a 'clear' brush any different from pretty much any eraser?

[Anonymous No.1771862]

would SAI to manga studio be an easy enough transition?

[Anonymous No.1771867]

>>1771847
>>1768422
this. at first i kind of guessed it worked like a brush but it was an eraser. then i realized that photoshop can do the same thing if you just adjust the brush settings.

does it have to do something with the layers? so it works more like a masked layer or something?

[Anonymous No.1771882]

>>1771847
The "clear brush" isn't a brush but the ability to pick the alpha channel as colour. In other words, you can turn any brush you already have into an eraser without having to create new specific ones. Much easier, more software should have it (SAI does too).

[Anonymous No.1772069]

>>1771862
Well, SAI's interface absolutely sucks, so it would be a hard transition from SAI to any other software. But if you know how to use photoshop, it's really easy to change to MS5/CSP.

[Anonymous No.1772086]

>>1771862
No
I still can't move from SAI
Fuck

[Anonymous No.1772534]

>>1772069
I know ps fairly well, im not pro, but i have used it for several years. how reasonable is painterly stuff on Manga? i dont like to use outlines often....

[Anonymous No.1773087]

>>1763225
O.o Manga Studio is actually used Professionally quite often...

...unlike literally anything else Smith Micro sells. Seriously, everything else is horrible.

[Anonymous No.1773122]

>>1772534
It's very doable, anon. I've been testing the waters since starting to see MS5 mentioned here more, and I'm enjoying it. It's not just for line work. I've just finished up cloning my basic PS brushes and they're working well. You can definitely paint in MS5, and get a better brush engine to boot.

The only thing I see so far that PS has over MS5 is Liquefy. There might be more, but it's covering all the bases except that for me thus far.

[Anonymous No.1773255]

I've never seen any torrents or free downloads for the manga studios

[Anonymous No.1773357]

>>1773255
It's cheap as fuck for the basic version. I believe it's on sale for $20 on Amazon right now actually. Don't be a faggot.

[Anonymous No.1773488]

>>1773255
get clip studio paint, it's the downloadable version of ms5 with much frequent updates

[Anonymous No.1773493]

>>1773087
>O.o
please for gods sake fucking kill yourself

[Anonymous No.1773516]

>>1773493
xD

[Anonymous No.1773528]

>>1773516
:3

[Anonymous No.1773543]

Can someone explain the differences between manga studio 5 and clip studio paint

[Anonymous No.1773548]

>>1763188
The only thing i don't like is the borders on panels and word balloons are not sharpened, i have to make the panel lines with a soft brush and then clone the panel layers in photoshop over each other to get the sharpened borders.

Anyone found a fix for this? it's killing me. I'm using the EX version, this never happened to me with the regular version, so when i did the change something happened with the borders.

[Anonymous No.1773555]

>>1773543
manga studio comes in a cd. clip studio is the downloadable version. they are the same program

[Anonymous No.1775397]

>>1763188
Could anybody help me with this?

Here you have a screenshot of manga studio. On circle 1 there is no antialiasing even on the menus. On circle 2 you can see the lines are very good and sharped on the panels but on cirlce 3 as you can see the lines have no antialiasing and looks ugly compare with horizontal and vertical lines. Same happens with word balloons and it's not a res problem (i got this file at 1200dpi), there must be something else. This is killing me.

Thanks in advance.

[Anonymous No.1775403]

>>1775397
AA is always available in the "advanced settings" but only on some tools its in the minimenu by the default.

[Anonymous No.1775405]

>>1775403
Thanks for the response but i'm talking in general, not tools only. Eevrything in manga studio looks jagged. Thatwouldn't be a problem if when exported/saved to a different format it could get the anti-aliasing working, but it doesn't. What i see is what i get, and i get jagged panels (using the cutting utility for panels) and word balloons.

[Anonymous No.1775410]

>>1775397
circle 3 looks fine, it's anti-aliased.
you must be crazy.

[Anonymous No.1775411]

>>1775405
Might be a problem with your version/bug/something. I just tried the word balloons and for me the AA works perfectly, line is jagged with no AA and perfectly smooth with strong AA.

[Anonymous No.1775429]

>>1775410
You don't know anything anon. Looks different form the circle 2.

[Anonymous No.1775431]

>>1775429
yeah, a diagonal line is different from horizontal line. it's sharp, but not jagged.
maybe your screen resolution is shit or something else wrong with your monitor, idk. looks fine from over here.

[Anonymous No.1775434]

>>1775431
For you. And monitor res has nothing to do with this problem, i know. The thing is that i used the basic manga studio 5 debut and everything was ok, but since i installed the EX version (with the "story" menu on top and other new stuff) everything went to crap now with all the borders.

[Anonymous No.1775443]

>>1775434
this is what i got. does it look jagged to you?
note that i have anti-alias checked and through canvas resolution isn't as high as yours, i'm showing it at 100%

[Anonymous No.1775445]

>>1775443
btw, i'm using EX too.

and make sure your "basic expression color" in canvas properties in grey, not monochrome.

[Anonymous No.1775459]

>>1775445
Thanks for the reply, but it seems to have nothing to do with the resolution or color option. The entire software seems to be bugged, as you can see on the menus, the lines looks jagged as well. At first i thought it was something related with my video drivers, but i ran the 3D testing utility and my PC passed it.

I also use SAI, Photoshop CS6 and Corel XI for painting and filters and everything works ok.

I don't know what to do. I don't want to loose the Multi pages feature on the EX versions but is dealing with this in some other way or just getting back to the debut version. Damn.

[Anonymous No.1775462]

>>1775459
jesus just use a vector based program if youre that butthurt about jagged lines

[Anonymous No.1775468]

>>1775459
try this

[Anonymous No.1775469]

does anyone have a safe dowload or torrent for manga studio ?

[Anonymous No.1775476]

>>1775462
Please enlight me with a vector software to create panels, dynamic word balloons, comic effects and multi-page features, able to export to .PSD without any issues, and doing all this automatically, saving me tons of time.

I think not, but thanks for the suggestions, though i have the problem and others seems to do it just fine and so i prefer to look for a solution to this issue that seems to not be normal.

Also, i think i found a way to work this out, though i would prefer a fix. I used the pencil brush option for the word balloon like in pic related and voilá, soften borders, in case someone has the same issue. Same works for panels, thank god. What's the catch? i have to do it individually for all the word balloons, but thank god Manga studio allows me to work on panels in a single layer so i just need to select it and it do it for all the panels at once. After this, i save as .PSD and using photoshop i duplicate the panel layers over and over, then merge them and then i get my loved sharpened panels back. A bitch to do for each page but it's better than nothing.

But please, somebody, if you know a way to fix this issue for good i would really appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.1775478]

>>1775468
Again, i appreciate the effort, but i don't even use the elipse tool, just the page features, quick panel creations and word ballons with text editing. For the sketches and lines i use SAI, for the colors i use Corel and/or Photoshop and for filters i use photoshop.

[Anonymous No.1775481]

>>1775478
it's not ellipse, read what it says [Editing Balloon] and there's even an icon.

[Anonymous No.1775483]

>>1775469
Quite a few of them on pirate bay

[Anonymous No.1775484]

>>1775478
>>1775481
does it look like an ellipse to you?
click the damn setting. christ, stop giving up.

[Anonymous No.1775501]

>>1775476
>adobe illustrator

[Anonymous No.1775505]

>>1775405
have you tried what he showed you?
for every line based tool you can adjust the level of AA. i don't really understand your problem

[Anonymous No.1775515]

>>1775481
Thanks, it works, makes the lines soften but it doesn't fix the issue completely. at 100% size it looks ok, but when i see the file at 75%, 50% or 25% size, the smaller the view the jagged the lines gets, so at the end it looks good only at 100% size which is a shame, nobody sees a comic/manga page at 100% size all the time.

Right side is the file at 100% size, left one is at 20% size.

[Anonymous No.1775519]

>>1775505

Yes i did on >>1775515
But again, it seems to be a general problem, not only with what i draw. I see the jagged lines even on the menus. With the debut version this wasn't an issue, the lines worked fine, but when i installed the EX version every line got messed up and don't know how to fix it. Reinstall didn't do anything.

[Anonymous No.1777070]

>>1775519
Ok, everyone knows Photoshop is no. 1 and Corel is no. 2.
But is this better than SAI as a basic illustration/comic art sowftware?

[Anonymous No.1777080]

>>1763188
im really used to photoshop but because my computer is dying and i heard the surface runs clip studio paint better than it does ps i have been playing with it a bit.

and really do like it. however not sure im ready to give up ps just for the surface 3.

[Anonymous No.1777081]

>>1763407
also >this

[Anonymous No.1777083]

>>1765800
swiss army knifes come with a built in cork screw anon.

and unless you are a retard it works just as good as a regular wine opener. + you get a shit load of other tools as well like spoons scissors, knife, and whatever else those shits pack.

also clippaint is more fluid.

[Anonymous No.1777085]

>>1766496
that sad moment when you realize lefty master race "chose by the gods rah and jesus" is not available for almost all gaming keypads.

[Anonymous No.1777110]

>>1777070
What I really like about SAI is the anti-aliasing and the super comfy canvas rotation/flipping, does MS5 support this? How smooth does it run compared to SAI and PS5/6

[Anonymous No.1777129]

>>1773528
:>=

[Anonymous No.1777140]

>>1775397

Thats how it's supposed to be. No anti aliasing pure black and white bitmap.

[Anonymous No.1777142]

>>1763188
>no warp tool

>in the trash it goes.

[Anonymous No.1777173]

Can you guys share your brushes, using texture brush is one of my weakness and I want to start exploring it.

[Anonymous No.1777250]

>>1777110
Manga studio features the same painting/drawing system that SAI has, downside is it can get a little laggy at high resolutions. I think the same happens in SAI though.

[Anonymous No.1777253]

>>1777250
that's your pc maybe

time to upgrade.jpg

[Anonymous No.1777258]

>>1777110
Yes.
Also: http://blog.nuclex-games.com/2013/09/using-wacom-touch-gestures-in-unsupported-applications/

[Anonymous No.1777276]

>>1777253
No, it's well known than manga studio doesn't handle high resolutions well as Photoshop. That being said, manga studio is still a better program for painting.

[Anonymous No.1777277]

>>1777070
>Corel is no. 2.
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[GreyDeath No.1777286]

MS is a great tool for making comics. I've been loving the panel folder and masking tool, as well as the radial line and perspective rulers. I've yet to use the tones or lettering tools yet, and one can import 3D objects.

That being said PS still has an advantage over MS in the simple notion of making an ellipse from the center instead of a corner, highly annoying. Vector pathing tools are better even in my PS7 version than in MS.

[Anonymous No.1777298]

>>1766035
use the latest dev version not the one in the top link that's from 2013

[Anonymous No.1777343]

>>1777142
It does have warp tool, kek

[Anonymous No.1777379]

>>1777276
define high resolution
both apps can work on the gpu, and depending on your brush spacing, ps is slower

[Anonymous No.1777453]

I just got this, and I'm very very impressed with it.
One thing I can't figure out is creating thing reading left to right, rather than manga style.
Like, I drag a frame preset onto the stage, and the panels all go right to left. Is there a solution?

[Anonymous No.1777457]

>mfw I prefer MS over PS for painting but free MS brushes are fucking impossible to find while free PS brushes are everywhere

[Anonymous No.1777463]

>>1765959
There's no absolute technical categorization, but digital painting and digital drawing have pretty different feels to them because they imply different techniques.

[Anonymous No.1777471]

>>1763188
Is anyone here good with Krita? I'm a bit bothered because I have to move my stylus a bit in order to make a stroke, yet with my mouse I can just click stationary and the dot properly shows up instantly (which is what I want).

[Anonymous No.1777504]

>>1777457
the only brush you need is the chalk brush

seriously fiddle with it a bit and you'll see its the most fucking versatile thing ever

[Anonymous No.1777508]

>>1777504
Huh, I'll give that a shot. Right now I'm mostly using the Watercolor and Oil brushes.

[Anonymous No.1777509]

>>1777504
fanged zulung is that you?

[Anonymous No.1777556]

>>1777457
>not making your own shit

[Anonymous No.1777557]

>>1777250
That is false.

SAI is master in working with linework because you can modify every single line you draw, and toy can even create more mod points to the lines and move them individualy. Shit, you can even control the thickness on every single point, which is great for tracing the sketch. Manga studio doesn't have that and i don't know of another software able to do that. Manga studio just has the regular pen tool present in photoshop, which is a pain in the ass to work with.

Pic related. Linework layer.

[Anonymous No.1777560]

>>1777557
o rly?

[Anonymous No.1777561]

>>1777557
>Manga studio doesn't have that

nigga, please...
In MS5/CSP you can even change the opacity in between points.

[Anonymous No.1777566]

Oh cool Manga Studio 5 is on amazon for only $30. I should try it.

[Anonymous No.1777567]

>>1777566
The vanilla version is not as good as the EX, tho. The EX comes with freaking perspective rulers, which is fucking amazing. It's a lot more expensive, tho, but you can always pirate it.

[Anonymous No.1777572]

>>1777567
I stopped pirating because I'm getting into doing stuff professionally instead of just for myself. I think I can handle making perspective lines the old fashioned (by digital standards) way until I can upgrade.

[Anonymous No.1777577]

Now that Clip Studio Paint and Manga Studio 5 are both $30 in Amazon, is there any reason to get MS5 instead of CSP other than the fact you get a physical disc with MS5? I heard that CSP is updated significantly more often. Are there other differences?

It seems like you'd have to buy it again when Manga Studio 6 comes out, whereas CSP is more permanent (pure speculation). Is that true?

[Anonymous No.1777616]

>>1777557
Kill yourself

[Anonymous No.1777637]

im really liking it so far will end up buying it most likely.

however feels a bit too smooth for my taste. everything feels soft etc.. how to make brushes? i heard you can import your photoshoop brushes is that true?

[Anonymous No.1777669]

>>1777637
>how to make brushes?
see pic related

>however feels a bit too smooth for my taste. everything feels soft etc
see >>1775468

>i heard you can import your photoshoop brushes is that true?
try seeing this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaravBpXzmY

[Anonymous No.1777712]

>>1777669
>>however feels a bit too smooth for my taste. everything feels soft etc
>see >>1775468
i think he meant density or blending. and yeah, you can control that, so it's a nonissue.

[Anonymous No.1777714]

>>1771862
I don't know what everyones bitching about. I've used SAI for almost 4 years. Just started using Manga Studio a few days ago and it's pretty easy to get used to. I was even able to set it up similar to how I had SAI.

[Anonymous No.1777716]

>>1763188
Is there a quick way to change the 'min size' of a brush? I've only used SAI, I know you can turn off pen pressure but that's a hassle and I just want to lower it so I don't have super pointy lines.

[Anonymous No.1777720]

>>1777716
You could just make a different brush with the same settings except for the min size.

[Anonymous No.1777746]

>>1777716

Make the option visible on your brush settings by clicking on the Eye icon for quick access.

[Anonymous No.1777896]

>>1777572
It's not like your clients have any way to know, or care, that you're working on pirated software.

[Anonymous No.1777916]

Ok, youve convinced me to give it a try.
Any recommended dl link?

[Anonymous No.1778096]

>>1777896
It's an honor thing for me, too, because I know people work hard to develop software. That said I switched from Photoshop to Krita because Adobe is evil.

[Anonymous No.1778109]

>>1763188
Intredasting drawing OP. Let me translate it into muh style.

[Anonymous No.1778755]

>>1777746
Ohh, thanks!

[Anonymous No.1778867]

>>1778109
I really like your style - you're such an amazing artist! <3

So, I picked up MS5 and I gotta say that I do like it. May become my regular. I really enjoy its damn line brushes.

[Anonymous No.1778978]

>>1778109
nice man face. i bet you couldnt get her to look female if you wanted(which you were probably trying to do anywhere)

[Anonymous No.1779018]

>>1766041
you can reprogam the shortcuts...

[Anonymous No.1779019]

>>1779018
*reprogram

[Anonymous No.1779028]

>>1779019
the right word is not "reprogram". you arent reprogramming anything. you are "remapping" the keys. the difference is that remapping means it's a function of the program. programming would mean that you are making changes to the actual program

[Anonymous No.1779040]

>>1778755
>>1778867

[Anonymous No.1779063]

anyone got them frenden brushes?

[Anonymous No.1779069]

>>1779063
http://a.pomf.se/whsppw.zip

[Anonymous No.1779073]

>>1777577
Clip Studio Paint updates come quicker than MS5 does.

[Anonymous No.1779078]

>>1779028
seriously if you ever want to touch a woman you're gonna have to learn to keep corrections like that to yourself.

[Anonymous No.1779087]

>>1779028
Thanks grammar autist bro!

But wouldn't reprogram be good aswell since your changing the program?

[Anonymous No.1779111]

>>1779087
only if you're retarded. Remapping is the act of changing keybindings. Reprogramming is actual programming.

[Anonymous No.1779113]

>>1779078
no.

it's what dan savage would call "the price of admission".
if the reason you reject a person is because they are a bit of a grammar nazi then you are an asshole. no one is perfect and if you keep thinking the way you do then you are the one ending up alone. because in reality we always have to arrange ourselves with the people around us one way or another. there may be people in the world who will fit perfectly to you, but they probably arent around and you will probably never meet them, which is why you will just have to learn to live with others the way they are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1tCAXVsClw

[Anonymous No.1779163]

>>1779087
>"Oh yeah, I'm a programmer. I can copy text using the F6 key in Photoshop."

[Anonymous No.1779173]

>>1779069
is it wrong that i expected dolphin porn?
thanks anon

[Anonymous No.1779875]

>>1779073
Are the lineart tools as good?
DL link where?

[Anonymous No.1779998]

>>1779028
Thanks for the correction, I couldn't think of the right word.

[Anonymous No.1780016]

>>1777577

You should be getting an option to upgrade from MS5 to MS6 with your existing MS5 license, when 6 is available. Going from 4 to 5 worked the same. You dont have to rebuy the whole damn thing.

[Anonymous No.1780018]

>>1777567

MS5 regular version also had perspective rulers. What MS5 doesn't have is multipage comic layouts. EX is suitable if you're doing a very long narrative.

[Anonymous No.1780128]

>>1779875
Inking tools are probably better than the coloring.
You can usually find it on Amazon for less than $20

[Anonymous No.1780131]

>>1778978
agreed.

[Anonymous No.1780210]

>>1763188
is the right boob bigger than the left one? or is it just me

[Anonymous No.1780247]

>>1780210
Just u

[Anonymous No.1783107]

don't want to start a new thread, but, how do you add a ruler (symmetry one) in the center of your drawing? I mean dead center

[Anonymous No.1783769]

>>1783107
1- put down the ruler
2- select it with the object selection tool
3- change the x coordinates to half of the canvas' length
4- ???
5- profit!

[Anonymous No.1783942]

I just got this program and I am liking it, but I turned off the stabilizer since I saw people bitching about it for SAI artist. Does it really matter if I use a stabilizer? I want to git gud and was just curious what the pros prefer. Does photoshop have a stabilizer?

[Anonymous No.1783958]

>>1763188
Saw this on Amazon for $18 and didn't grab while it was low. But isn't this Clipstudio, or round about the same thing?

Also, any other software like this for OS X that you'd recommend? I like Photoshop for certain stuff like pixel art and animation and all the other options it has, but digital drawing and painting in it is a goddamn chore.

[Anonymous No.1783975]

>>1783942

Photoshop does have a function in brushes for 'smoothing' that's a slight stabilizer but it doesn't do too much. The problem with using stabilizer is it takes longer to build up line confidence which means when you don't have it your lines look like shit and it generally takes longer to hit the right line with high stabilizers than those who just have good hand coordination.. You watch some of these Sai users and it literally takes them 20+ attempts for every fucking line. It also is really easy to make the lines look lifeless because they're all so fucking perfect, a little bit of wobble adds character (this is personal opinion though I've heard others say the same).

My advice is when sketching and painting turn the stabilizer off or low, when doing final inks then feel free to turn it up, best of both worlds really.

[Anonymous No.1783984]

>>1778109
didn't know you did digital art, fagboss.

[Anonymous No.1783992]

I got this for my birthday and never installed it. I'm going to now because of this thread.

[Anonymous No.1784004]

>>1783975
Thanks, appreciate the reply.

[Anonymous No.1784082]

>>1783992
>I got this for my birthday and never installed it.

How ungrateful can you be that you didn't even try it?

Kids these days.

[Anonymous No.1785881]

Ok, this thread inspired me to go and try it...

how is this better than photoshop?

[Anonymous No.1785926]

>>1785881
>draw vectors on the fly
see >>1777561
>perspective rulers (my fav feature! but it's only for the EX ver)
>better painting engine
PS's painting engine is pretty outdated. I think the biggest update was on PS 7, 12 years ago. After that it was just tweaks and bug fixes. I remember getting very frustrated when my lines were all wobbly. I thought I was really bad before discovering that it was Photoshop's fault.
>huuuge customization of brushes.
Tools like erasers, pens, patterns brushes and mixers brushes are pretty much just brushes with various settings (also, see pic related! you can change pressure and tilt setting for individual brushes).
>huuuge customization in the UI and shortcuts.
You can add multiple keys for the same function and multiple functions for the same key. You are not limited to just the functions keys for the actions, unlike PS (yes, there are actions, just like in PS). Also, you can even add icons and stuff.
>way lighter than photoshop
It feels like PS is going to burn my poor old notebook's processor sometimes
>posable 3D models
I don't even use them, but some people might find them useful to use like mannequins and stuff. Only for EX version as well
>color wheel
>change AA
PS's AA is too strong, it makes the lines look too soft
>usable paint bucket
kek
>multiple pages and panels & balloons tools for comic books (EX)
>cheaper
I'm a piratefag tho

[Anonymous No.1785931]

>>1785881
it feels like a cheaper (cost-wise) photoshop with less features to me. it's missing things like channels, copy merge function (I can't replicate this even with auto-action keys), custom shape tool, zooming of multiple canvases at the same time, smart objects, content aware fill, colorize layer, luminosity layer and i couldn't really get it to replicate photoshop's dual brush feature exactly.

it does have neat things like simple 3d models, a built in color wheel so you don't need a plugin, auto fill areas for line art, perspective rulers (if you need it) and premade tones for comics though which I don't think PS has. also has a touch mode for tablets though still runs like ass if you're trying to save a painting with a huge resolution.

[Anonymous No.1785935]

>>1785881
>>1785926
There are more minor stuff that I could have said (you can divide the layer panel into two! heh), but really it's Photoshop's fault for being so outdated. Every single new feature is always devoted to photo retouching and not a single one for the artist. The last new feature for artists was the mixer brush on the CS5 or 6, which is almost useless considering the low customization options for the tool.

[Anonymous No.1786650]

>>1785926
ok, i got the 64bit ex version...

lightweight... no.... not by a long shot. this bitch is eating ram like no other program i have ever used.

using a mouse with the program makes the lines go apeshit (just testing the program, tablet they are smooth as fuck, but god damn mouse sucks balls.)

i cant find any of these extra things that would make the program better. ill be honest, i'm only on and off dicking around with it right now but still... the ram use alone makes me hesitant to use it. and than there is just putting a line down on a 2000X2000 72dpi page eats 25+% of the processor but eats ram far harder than photoshop...

its possible bigger images it runs better than ps, but yea.

still looking into it, i just have no idea what to think.

[Anonymous No.1786698]

>>1786650
>and than there is just putting a line down on a 2000X2000 72dpi page eats 25+% of the processor but eats ram far harder than photoshop...

From what kind of mad world did your pc come from? I'm drawing in a 2000x4000 600dpi page with a bunch of layers right now and it's consuming less than 1/3 of the ram PS eats here. Hell, it's even consuming less than half of Firefox's usage right now.

[Anonymous No.1786711]

>>1786698
if you set the pixels then the dpi doesn't matter.

[Anonymous No.1786763]

>2014
>using photoshop for anything other than photos
>muh concept art

[Anonymous No.1786765]

>>1786698
at default i think it was something like 3000x7000 at 600dpi, that ate 3.5gb of ram after 7 minutes of dicking around... like i said, i have no idea what to think because i know photoshop at the worst i ever did with it, never ate ram like that.

also, photoshop seems to handle large brush sizes better than this too.

out of curiosity, there is a cross hatch brush, in my short time using it, i think it sucks for what i want to do, are there any full page filters that have lines, so i can more or less create the cross hatching through masking? crosshatching is something im never going to manually do digitally even if i like doing it in real life.

>>1786763
what other programs do you suggest because it seems like photoshop is the standard... i would love to know what others are worth looking at which is partially why i am looking at manga studio.

[Anonymous No.1786771]

>>1786763
Photoshop is fine, quit being stupid.

[k.takeru !7tfNS7RsTw No.1786784]

>>1768100
Razer Nostromo

[Anonymous No.1786805]

>>1786765
>that ate 3.5gb of ram after 7 minutes of dicking around

Dude, what the hell. I don't think it ever took anything more than 500mb of ram here. Maybe you were dicking around with the 3D models? This is something I never use.

I have some crosshatch materials here, but I don't know if it comes with the default package. If there isn't then download this pack:
https://kickass.to/manga-studio-5-materials-t7354109.html

[Anonymous No.1787501]

>>1786805
i dont even know how to put 3d models into the program

and i didn't mean making a pencil crosshatch like that, i meant just a cross hatch layer, and i mask out the areas i don't want crosshatched.

[Anonymous No.1787797]

any good (and free) comic fonts? inb4 comic sans

[Anonymous No.1787803]

>>1787797
there's one they use for translating manga all the time "wild words" or "cc jim lee" or "anime ace" one of them, i can't remember what the difference is.

[Anonymous No.1789008]

>>1787803
ill try em. thanks m8

[Anonymous No.1789341]

>>1787803
>wild words
the Frenchs use anime ace

[Anonymous No.1789354]

Photoshop is great simply by the sheer amount of features it has. It's an indispensable tool for me and my main workspace. The thing is that when you use it for a bit, you can really tell Adobe doesn't really give a fuck artists. It acknowledges artists use photoshop from time to time, but it's too much of a general tool that you'll never, EVER see any functionality built specifically for artists like other programs do, which is sad because it's what forces me to jump back and forth between applications.

[Anonymous No.1789370]

>>1789354
>you'll never, EVER see any functionality built specifically for artists
nigga what. they put in blender brushes and canvas rotation specifically for artists.
i like to paint in PS mainly because i can do it with opacity.

[Anonymous No.1789380]

>>1789370
oh joy they put stuff other programs already have for years, top yey for adobe.

[Anonymous No.1789430]

>>1789370
> It acknowledges artists use photoshop from time to time

The rest is an hyperbole and doesn't hold up if you take it literally.

[Anonymous No.1789449]

>>1789380
>"le photoshop is shit because it doesn't have X!!!"
>actually, it does
>"WELL ACTUALLY photoshop is shit because program Z had it first!!!"

[Anonymous No.1789458]

>>1789449

>Program X's development is behind the curve
>implying this is a good thing

shig.

[Anonymous No.1789471]

>>1789458
Say that to all the features Photoshop has over other software.

[Anonymous No.1789537]

>>1786765
out of curiosity, there is a cross hatch brush, in my short time using it, i think it sucks for what i want to do, are there any full page filters that have lines, so i can more or less create the cross hatching through masking?

Try the (half)tone layer setting and dick with the line settings.

[Anonymous No.1789547]

quality discussion here on /ic/ as usual. circle jerking about your programs and putting others down cuz they use a different one.

>krita
>ps
>manga studio/clip paint
>sai
>art rage
>ms paint
>an actual canvas
>verve
>black ink
>etc

pick one. paint. stop being depressive children. maybe get a job too.

[Anonymous No.1789555]

>>1789471
you meant all those other useless features for photos manipulation that eats RAM and CPU unnecessarily?

top kek

[Anonymous No.1789564]

>>1789555
Close.

I meant the features that allow me to edit 50000x50000+ px images without significant lag.

[Anonymous No.1789565]

>>1789564
>editing

top kek

[Anonymous No.1789566]

>>1789565
When you draw on a canvas, you're editing the image.

[Anonymous No.1789568]

>>1789566
>When you draw on a canvas, you're editing the image.

I start with a blank page instead of some image underneath.

[Anonymous No.1789572]

inb4 50 posts arguing semantics

[Anonymous No.1789576]

>>1789572
>inb4
You're a bit late.

[Anonymous No.1789612]

I use Colors on my 3ds. Is that a decent program to learn to draw with?

[Anonymous No.1789614]

>>1789612

[Anonymous No.1789633]

>>1789612
I just got it too myself and i think that its a good program but i think you have to really know what you're doing to make the most of it. I wouldn't try to learn how to draw on it though, if anything i would start on paper and pencil

[Anonymous No.1789643]

>>1789633
Paper and pencil is pretty much the one thing I'm avoiding learning how to do, due to the cost and messiness of it.

I just started drawing like 2 days ago, I don't want to spend a lot of money if I end up being unable to do it.

Colors is kind of need though, but I have a lot of problems drawing straight lines with it because of the small screen size and always accidentally bumping the corner with my palm. It's very uncomfortable to hold it and draw.

http://colorslive.com/details/351515

[Anonymous No.1789659]

>>1789643
dude paper is cheap as fuck. You don't need some pretentious italian shit to draw on. In your local store there is a lot of paper which costs. like, 5-10 cents per huge list. Same about pencils. Sure, pricey stuff may be great, but it doesn't matter if you're working on your line control or smth like that.

[Anonymous No.1789667]

>>1789643
>Paper and pencil is pretty much the one thing I'm avoiding learning how to do, due to the cost and messiness of it.
>Cost

>1 ream of printer paper + pencils = $6
>Tablet + manga studio $100+

[Anonymous No.1789684]

>>1789643
get a job if u are worrying about price. paper and pencils are cheap as fuck anyways. you wont b able to get good if you dont dont draw traditionally. then you will be able to switch to tablets with ease. also, pencil and paper is wayy more precise than tablet, including pressure, width, shading, etc, even if your tablet supports 10 billion pressure inputs. also, there is no lag times or loading times on paper, its portable, and if you are worrying about messiness, then go back to being the pansy lil bitch you are.

if you have to make excuses for yourself, then it's obviously not important to you.

[Anonymous No.1789686]

>>1789568
>2014
>not being a photo-bashing concept artist

[Anonymous No.1792486]

I just picked this up in the sale and spent a while importing brush tip shapes.
When used with Indian Ink a good portion of the nib shapes result in the same black colour, regardless of actual colour used to draw. Is this a bug? Other tools seem to be fine, default nibs too. What the heck determines whether a brush tip shape works or not?

I've also often got this issue where my tablet changes into mouse mode when hovering over the canvas, while functioning normal on the rest of the UI. I don't know who thought that was a good idea.

[Anonymous No.1792501]

>>1792486
Never mind, it seems to be a toolwide thing. Damn, this is annoying.

[Anonymous No.1792506]

>>1792486
file > preferences > tablet

[Anonymous No.1792508]

>>1789667
infinite paper and colors
infinite canvas size

[Anonymous No.1792515]

>>1792508
Electricity costs.

[Anonymous No.1792517]

>>1792506
I've already looked there, with no luck.

[Anonymous No.1792519]

>>1792486
Black color fix:

>while importing a brush make a new layer
>convert the layer to grayscale
>draw the tip shape you want
>now continue with setting it as material etc. as per usual

[Anonymous No.1792539]

>>1792519
You have my eternal gratitude, anon.

[Anonymous No.1792688]

Does Manga Studio have something like the mirror in SAI/openCanvas that lets you view the canvas horizontally flipped without actually flipping it?

[Anonymous No.1792721]

>>1792688
i'd like to know this as well. i've used transform>flip, but it's getting annoying.

[Anonymous No.1793109]

>>1792721
>>1792688
i actually found it. for anyone else who wants to know, it's not set to a shortcut. you have to go to file>shortcut settings>main menu>view>rotate/invert>flip horizontal and set it to whatever key you want.

[Anonymous No.1793114]

>>1792721
>>1793109
there is also a button that lets you do that.
it's in the navigator/preview/what'sitcalled panel. you know, the one that previews your canvas as a thumbnail.
you can flip horizontally and vertically

[Anonymous No.1793245]

>>1789667
Don't forget about buying or upgrading a PC. Add up like $500+ or even a toaster for -$300

[Anonymous No.1793294]

>>1765485
artgerm uses Photoshop and Painter, so pls... he doesnt care much about program, he proved it manytimes. Yet, most of the time he uses these two.

[Anonymous No.1794416]

is there a way to set the middle mouse button as the pan / move tool?

[Anonymous No.1794435]

>>1789667
>.2 lead container + 3 lead packs (sketching, lining and rendering) = $35
>Ton of 250 cardstock = $30
Not even going semi-pro is digital cheaper than analog until after 5 years of constant work or so, and you'd have to upgrade your PC every 3-6 years anyway.

[Anonymous No.1794457]

Any MS users here ever do a Livestream or Ustream or anything like that?
I've tried it recently, and Manga Studio is really laggy while I'm broadcasting compared to Photoshop. I am wondering if there are any ways to optimize things so I can use MS while streaming.

expert mode: on a Mac

[Anonymous No.1794564]

ms is so confusing. Dled it cause of this thread, i don't know what's going on. This is nothing like photoshop. It's more like corel painter, but all the comic book stuff is really daunting.

[Anonymous No.1794569]

>>1794564
What do you mean anon, like how is it confusing? Its basically same as Photoshop with some more stuff to play with.

[Anonymous No.1794573]

>>1794416
file > modifier key > scroll to the bottom > on middle mouse button click the "common" and select change tool temporarily > expand "move" and select "hand"

[Anonymous No.1794584]

>>1794569
the icons make no sense, i have no idea why there are lines on the canvas, the descriptions of things are not clear. it's definitely a huge time investment to learn all this shit all over.

[Anonymous No.1794595]

>>1794584

Yep, seriously what's with the fucking lines on the canvas.

And for me personally, ms is laggy. Not massively, but compared to the basically 1:1 response of Photoshop, it's unbearable. No idea why everyone in this thread is sucking ms dick.

[Anonymous No.1794639]

>>1794595
Glad I'm not the only one who notices this.

I love how MS handles painting, but that lag is annoying. Also the interface is a bit clunky. I wish it were more like SAI.

[Anonymous No.1794644]

... how old are your pc's, guys? are you running MS with a game in the background and seeding with torrents? jesus.

[Anonymous No.1794645]

>>1786805
How to make UI dark?

[Anonymous No.1794647]

>>1794644

Not really old. Running 8gbs RAM, high end i5 (can't remember which one), and no heavy processes in the background. I can work on PS at 10kx10k+ canvases without any issue at all. Like I said, the lag isn't bad or anything on MS and it's slight, but when you come off of the response time of PS it's very noticeable.

[GreyDeath No.1794648]

>>1794645
Preferences>Interface>Color>Dark Color

[Anonymous No.1794659]

>>1794648
Looks like I need to update to do that and I can't get the update files because pierat.

[Anonymous No.1794662]

i have an i7 with 16gb, i lag only when using india ink darker bleed. Not when low pressure, only max pressure. That's very specific, it shouldn't lag there either but normal brushes dont lag.

[Anonymous No.1794667]

>>1794659
i think you need EX version to change interface color, then. you don't have to upgrade, just pirate it.

[Anonymous No.1794671]

>>1794667
I have EX but version 5.0, just need to dl newer one and reinstall to get updates.

[Anonymous No.1794974]

>>1794667
Nope, I've got Pro and I can do that just fine.

[Anonymous No.1795021]

>>1794667
you just need to update to the newest version. ex doesnt matter

[Anonymous No.1795036]

>>1794662
actually didn't notice yesterday, but with i7 haswell and a 770 it still lags when just using regular tools like eraser and pencil. Is it really this unoptimised or is it something in the options to change? That's really kind of annoying.

[GreyDeath No.1795038]

>>1795036
update the tablet drivers? Try different ones? maybe switch from Tablet PC to Wintab in MS5 preferences?

[Anonymous No.1795047]

i'm running a toaster AMD 3.2 GHz with 6GB RAM and never experienced any lag. something's wrong that's causing you to lag, but it's not MS.

[Anonymous No.1795061]

>>1795036
Dude what lag

MS doesnt lag at all, unlike Photoshop

[Anonymous No.1796661]

>>1794644
AMD PhenomII X4 965 c3
Nvidia gtx 650 ti 2gb
8 GB ram 1600mhz
Crunchbang Linux (Sid)
A wee bit old and new, I really wish every app can fully optimize the GPU instead of the CPU even if there is opengl available feels half baked.

Most popular apps end up for windows and Wine hardly works for some or never opens, PS, MS, SAI
Thank god for neckbeard developers bringing alternatives to these and I use them all.

[Anonymous No.1797804]

So what exactly is the difference between Manga Studio 5 EX and Clip Studio Paint Pro? From what I've understood, they are the same software but the latter is an English translation by the Japanese maker, and Manga Studio is by some western publisher? Are there any pros and cons in regards of updates and such, does Clip Studio come with dark theme too?

[Anonymous No.1798057]

>>1797804
its the same thing. clip studio is a digital d/l and ms5 is a hardcopy. literally in their website mr. detective.

[C_Abdulio No.1800553]

>>1794457
Does having a Mac affect MS performance in the least? I'm interested in getting this program to replace my old Corel IX as a lineart and painting program.

[Anonymous No.1800612]

>>1763188
So why is this better/worse than photoshop?

[Anonymous No.1800627]

i was messing around with MS 5 a bit and i noticed i couldn't find the option to make the brush rotate with stroke direction
Did anyone find this option.
I found an option that can do it (Ribbon) option that can do that but it locks the interval of brush stamp, so you can't adjust the spacing of the brush anymore.

[Anonymous No.1800638]

>>1800627

[Anonymous No.1800641]

>>1763203
>Photoshop doesn't have symmetry

I don't understand what you're saying. What exactly can't you do?

[Anonymous No.1800644]

Hey guys, I know this is off topic, but does anyone know what program professional animators use? I.e. The people who make Naruto, Bleach, DTB, FMA... I can't find any info.

[Anonymous No.1800649]

>>1800644
probably retas pro

[Anonymous No.1800651]

>>1800649
Ah nice Thanks based anon! I have searched and searched but it's impossible to get solid information, thank you so much for the help.

[Anonymous No.1800677]

>>1800651
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdzjqOuO_Ig#t=31

[C_Abdulio No.1800861]

>>1800651
You can always try TV Paint Pro as well. It's like photoshop basics combined with a really good animation program. A bit counter intuitive but once you get past the curve, ti's awesome

[Anonymous No.1801084]

>>1800677
That video is from 2004, I assumed technology has advanced beyond hand - drawing each frame in the ensuing decade.

[Anonymous No.1801365]

>>1763203
Do you have symmetrical ruler? MS EX v5.0.2 here, i don't have it.