Beginner General #3: NEVER GIVE UP

[Anonymous No.1761985]

Because we should not have to make new threads or post in draw threads with our fundamental exercises. Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up.

You are a beginner if it still says so in the sticky, so Absolute Beginner and Beginner.

Practice Practice Practice!

[Anonymous No.1761992]

Where is the link to the previous thread?

[Anonymous No.1762003]

>>1761985
>>1761992
LAST THREAD:
>>1756653

[Anonymous No.1762039]

first time poster here, decided to pick up drawing because I've never been quite good at it. I have a career in programming but I want to specialize in realtime 3d, so while I was at it I decided I'd learn modeling and texturing and become a one-man-band just for the kicks. I felt like having a solid basis in traditional art would be "just" beneficial but after a week or so practicing and lurking here I'm starting to enjoy this in and of itself. that said, here's something I just drew a few minutes ago.

[Anonymous No.1762092]

>>1761796
Saying focusing on the contour would be wrong, because we're not trying to draw contours, but 3D objects/masses (nitpicking, but I want to be clear on this).

Constructing figures with basic shapes over geistures is nice exercise. Just don't take too long in each pose, shading only to indicate planes and some forms, we're not doing finished pieces.
This exercise requires understanding planes, forms and proportions, so don't fear using references. Afterwards do few from imagination. There comes the real problem solving, trying to remember how and understanding why things are like they are.
Adding cross contours and trying to understand how they work, can be really good exercise too.

Do both, geisture and construction, mix them up. Use timer, if you feel like it. Geisture takes only few minutes, but construction requires time.

[Anonymous No.1762136]

What are the suggested books again? I've got Robertson and Norling at the moment.

[Anonymous No.1762156]

>>1762039
Are you using
Noice anon, keep going that in the end it'll pay off.
>>1762136
Vilppu and Hampton comes to mind. CGMA, Proko and Robertson on youtube.

[Anonymous No.1762157]

>>1762156
>Are you using
Ignore this sentence, my browser has been coping pasting things automatically for some spooky reason.

[Anonymous No.1762166]

>>1762156
Ok, thanks to Norling's book i've just got how perspective works. What's next? Got Loomis, Hampton etc. but Loomis somehow doesn't work for me. Maybe it's because I personally hate that cartoonish style. Isn't Hampton too hard for beginners?

[Anonymous No.1762169]

>>1762156

>>1762136 Here

Thanks pal.

>>1762166

I am using Hampton as a two week beginner and whilst possible, some elements I still struggle with.

[Anonymous No.1762202]

>>1762156
why thank you! last time I picked up a pencil was something like a decade ago so I wasn't hoping for good feedback, now I'm happy :)
>>1762157
well that didn't sound so bad either, it feels like a lousy pickup line, "are you using? yeah cause that shit's dope" or something like that

[Anonymous No.1762258]

I'm really struggling with face proportions. It never turns out at least 90% like the ref I'm using. ;_;

[Anonymous No.1762283]

>>1762258
Post art, fagit.

[Anonymous No.1762330]

I'm forcing myself to study and draw at least 2 hours a day, no matter what. I'm incredibly happy with my progress so far. Thanks guys.

[Anonymous No.1762337]

>>1762330
Don't thank anyone just yet, work harder and post progress.

[Anonymous No.1762339]

>>1762258
When you draw someone's face, what do you draw first? I've noticed that I get the proportions better if I start with one of the eyes.

[Anonymous No.1762346]

Last time I posted a face I was working on and said I have no idea what I was doing. I got some helpful advice to start with simpler things. So here's an apple.

It's really a lot more fun working on something that isn't overwhelmingly difficult.

[Anonymous No.1762370]

study of light on simple forms

[Anonymous No.1762372]

>>1762346
I might have been the one giving you that feedback.

It looks as if you followed bumskee (min) 's tutorial that is often posted around here except it has a little too big highlight. It's good! Keep taking small steps toward those more difficult shapes.

[Anonymous No.1762421]

>>1762372
can u post said tut ?

[Anonymous No.1762480]

Help

[You're Mom No.1762490]

Accidentally tabbed out of the reference pretty early on but decided to try and soldier through. It wasn't intended to be a value study but I decided to shade it in the end and see how I'd do (which turned out to be "not very good", lel).

[Anonymous No.1762501]

>>1762421
no. google.

[Anonymous No.1762502]

>trying to learn how to draw.
>go to /ic/
>read the sticky
>start Keys to Drawing
>>close one eye as you draw
>tfw I can't close one eye

I lost some facial strenght due an ill sequel. For closing an eye I need to put a lot of effort, is really uncomfortable and I can't keep it for more than seven seconds.

It sounds ridiculous, but I'm thinking in drawing with an eye-patch, at least for now...

Is there any drawback of drawing with an eye-patch?

[Anonymous No.1762507]

>>1762502
uwotm8.tar
why the fuck would closing one eye be of any help?

covering one eye might get tricky if you hit your dominant eye
what eye is dominant?
>stretch out your arms
>form a small hole with your hands
>focus on an object trough that hole
>move hands towards your face
>maintain focus on object
>eye not getting coverd in the end is dominant

[Anonymous No.1762510]

>>1762502
Not really no.

I use it in life drawing classes and still life studies because my eyes aren't coordinated, even with my glasses on.

[Anonymous No.1762511]

>>1762480
It's more important to draw the underlying structure (the basic spheres, etc.) when doing these exercises. And draw through your forms (ie. if you draw a cube, draw ALL its edges, including the back ones).
Also: https://www.google.ca/search?q=preston+blair&rlz=1C1DVCJ_enCA390CA390&es_sm=93&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=w1CrU-nKG4mh8QGnyYGABg&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=903&bih=573
^
A better book for learning cartoon structure

[Anonymous No.1762512]

>>1762502
You have to close an eye only when you doing somethin you can't do with both eyes opened anon, for example - measuring things with a pencil.

[Anonymous No.1762515]

>>1762511
>Draw through your forms
Didn't know that would be important too.

Thanks for the help, anon

[Anonymous No.1762519]

>>1762515
Found a video on it btw: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsdkhQis34U
The guy isn't the greatest artist but he gives a good idea of what it's all about anyway.

[Anonymous No.1762523]

Perspective, proportions, body practice. Come at me, I need to get stronger, figgitz.

[Anonymous No.1762524]

>>1762523
terrible, try harder

[Anonymous No.1762531]

>>1762523
Shoulders, hands don't follow perspective. Probably more stuff that doesn't follow perspective. Generally the halfway point of the body is at the crotch.

[Anonymous No.1762539]

>>1762524
>implying I don't already know I need to try harder
>implying I won't deliberately take bait
>implying I'm rustled easily

Nigga, tell me something I don't know, for starters.
>pic related, bitch

>>1762531
This guy is alright. You're alright, guy. I'll get on it.

[You're Mom No.1762567]

Felt like taking a little more time on this.

[You're Mom No.1762571]

Felt like taking a little more time on this

[Anonymous No.1762577]

>>1762519
but he's making hairy lines and sticky says not to hairy line

[Anonymous No.1762588]

>>1762577
When watching Cykra videos, you should not really look at his examples. Sycra is actually a terrible draughtsman. He gives a lot of good advice, but he doesn't actually really understand it himself--he just parrots shit like 90% of /ic/. Again, it doesn't mean his advice is bad, but his execution is really poor because he doesn't actually know what he's talking about.

[Anonymous No.1762673]

Doesn't look much like the ref, but I kinda like it.

[Anonymous No.1762733]

I cannot for the life of me get eyes to match up when im constructing a head from imagination.

The eyelids always seem to get fucked up, cant seem to wrap my head around how the curves of the lids should be at various angles, any advice?

[Anonymous No.1762735]

>>1762733
do some ellipses in perspective

[Anonymous No.1762738]

>>1762733
Remember the eyeballs protrude from the face slightly, so they're wrapped around a sphere.

[Anonymous No.1762747]

>>1762733
>take some reference and zoom in on the eye
>copy it 100% accurate
>dont think
>copy
>put away reference try drawing from memory now
>will turn out as crap
>compare drawing 1 from memory with reference
>notice differences in lines, angles etc
>draw from memory a second time
>compare to reference
>repeat untill you have 3 or 4 memory drawings

its not breath-taking fun i suppose (though for me it is kind of) but it forces you to think why some tiny marks drawn slightly different will result in a bad representation of the eye (or whatever you are drawing that way) and will hopefully help you understand the subject
naturally draw it from different angles

[Anonymous No.1762750]

>>1762747
oh and if you aim to fit the eye to the constructed head (not understand the eye itself)
copy a full head in the first step - and construct on all following steps
this exercise gets way more exhausting the more complex your subject is

[Anonymous No.1762759]

>>1762747
>working from muscle memory
stop

[Anonymous No.1762761]

>>1762759
not that anon but
memory =/= muscle memory

[Anonymous No.1762762]

How do I git gud faster /ic/?

[Anonymous No.1762764]

>>1762761
clearly dont know what youre talking about

[Anonymous No.1762771]

>>1762764
p sure you lack reading comprehension

[Anonymous No.1762778]

>tfw don't want hairy scraggle-lines
>decide to practice linework with simple exercises, sometimes attempt to put into practice
>Still get wobbles and scraggles

HALP.

[Anonymous No.1762780]

>>1762778
Make sure you're drawing from your elbow and shoulder unless you're drawing small details. You probably won't be very accurate, but the accuracy will come with lots of practice.

[Anonymous No.1762781]

>>1762780
I am.

Keep on trucking it is then.

[Anonymous No.1762786]

>>1762781
One good exercise you can do is draw two points and then try to connect them as best you can. You can also try it with 3 points and try to connect them with a curve or 4 points and try to hit them all with an ellipse. When doing these you should "ghost" the stroke before putting the mark on the paper (Ghosting is basically making the motion of the mark you want to make over and over until you feel like you can hit the correct one). Also try to keep the motion of your arm steady in speed, not too fast and not too slow.

[Anonymous No.1762787]

>>1762786
Duly noted, and many thanks anon.

I plan on about 2 hours of practice. Sound fine, or too excessive?

[Anonymous No.1762792]

>>1762759
im not that advanced and i never quite understood what "muscle memory" is - care to explain?

the repeating pattern is necessary because one cannot find / fix all issues at once.
when i do this exercise the first acurate copy serves to "burn" that correct image into my mind
the following drawings from memory are to correct the differences between the previous and the reference image

in any case explain please

[Anonymous No.1762796]

>>1762787
(different anon)
if you mean exercising the ghosting lines + connecting dots (drawing circles also good) 2 hours is too much.
do it 10 minutes every day before starting to draw something

[Anonymous No.1762799]

>>1762796
Alright then.

Thank you anon.

[Anonymous No.1762826]

Am I good yet?

Ignore the neck.... thing

[Anonymous No.1762833]

>>1762826
You shouldn't be asking "Am I good yet?", instead you should be asking yourself "Am I better than I was a month ago?"

But, no, you aren't.

[Anonymous No.1762836]

>>1762826

[Anonymous No.1762837]

>>1762833
It was rhetorical, and sarcasm, I know im not good, and I know im better than I was a month ago.

But, thank you, anyway.

Any advice you can give? Instead of just telling me im bad?

[Anonymous No.1762843]

>>1762837
>open the link-mass in the sticky
>masturbate
>cum on monitor
whatever is under the small droplett of semen will make you improve

[Anonymous No.1762844]

Am I an artist yet?

[Anonymous No.1762846]

>>1762843
Thanks :^)

[Anonymous No.1762847]

>>1762837
Go watch the head drawing series on youtube by ProkoTV.

I wasn't trying to be an asshole, by the way.

[Anonymous No.1762851]

>>1762847
thanks man, appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.1762982]

>>1761985

[Anonymous No.1762988]

pro artist level: confirmed

[Anonymous No.1762990]

its supposed to look like this

its muh style

[Anonymous No.1763000]

It's a good feel when you find there's something you don't know.

Like how to construct a head when facing away from you.

[Anonymous No.1763072]

I still dont get it. I dont see how I can use these shapes to my advantage if I cant tell where each shape is meant to fit where

[Anonymous No.1763085]

Drew a pose, studied Bruce Timm's Batman and drew him from reference pictures. NOT a trace of an existing pose like many others. Pretty happy with this. Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.1763090]

>>1763085
His outerleg looks a bit odd, and his batarang needs work, or did it used to look like that, I like the torso and head work

[Anonymous No.1763109]

>>1763090
I get you about the thigh on the left, it still bugs me, legs are my weakness. As for the batarang, I cut down the number of points to make it look more ergonomic.

http://www.rubberslug.com/img_show.aspx?ImageID=435178&X=530&Section=Item

[Anonymous No.1763124]

>>1763072
It's like constructing the head, you imagine what you want to draw and try to fit geometrical forms in it to facilitate construction. Plus Loomis enters a little bit into perspective on this page when he says "The weight of the body must be evenly distributed over a central point of gravity".

Don't obsess with the forms per se, you could construct a body using triangular shapes and end up with the same result of a body constructed with ellipses.

Try fitting shapes on what you want to draw in your head, move them to paper then add details. Those shapes are akin to a very simplistic human skeleton.

I would recommend reading some book about perspective to complement this part of Loomis' book.

[Anonymous No.1763166]

>>1763124
Im trying to build drawings downwards to try and learn how these are actually work
Using memory I drew this and I can spot where some of these are out of place, particularly the eyes would be to high up and the right arm is out of place, would you say this is accurate way of doing this

[Anonymous No.1763187]

>>1763166
You're on the right path but you lack perspective. Finding the horizon line on this picture will help you undestand better the position the boy is. I would recommend you drawing the base figure upon the image just to get a better grasp of his positioning too.

tl:dr Study perspective if you really want start to draw this type of image.

[Anonymous No.1763197]

>>1763187
I disagree, while one point perspective may be usefull here, because it's a down shot and you're seeing the character from the front, it is not the main problem of figure drawing !
You don't want to become an architect, do you?
He should start by gesture and he has to understand foreshortening, it's obvious he doesn't when you look at the legs.
My advice would be :
- Watch proko's explanations about gesture
- do a bunch
- learn how to mesure angles and proportions from life with your pen and draw simple 3d shapes you can find in your house (cubes etc...) turn around them. down shot / upshot
- apply your knewly aquired knowledge of 3D shapes in 2D to your gestures.

You should improve a lot this way

[Anonymous No.1763201]

>>1763187
also gesture - helps you to stop stacking bodymasses on top of each other and get way better poses.

don't feel overwhelmed tho, it's nice to switch focus every now and then between different fundamentals.

[Anonymous No.1763224]

>>1763187
>>1763197
>>1763201
Man, I fucking love learning all this shit, but I really just want to draw. its like a adventure

[Anonymous No.1763230]

This Proko guy is a god damn great Teacher, so far Ive always been drawing stiff artworks when trying to create an image, Now I understand why whenever I tried to draw Sexy they always look like they have a stick up their ass, Not in the sexy way

[Anonymous No.1763238]

>>1763230
you go get em loliman777

[Anonymous No.1763265]

Like really, these MINIMAL lines make such a big difference at trying to get what im portraying in the pictures, I can already see a big difference in the personality of these characters, doing this shit so much faster now, thanks guys

[Anonymous No.1763341]

Is it alright to overlay the original picture with my lineart if I'm not tracing? I'm not very good at drawing things in places they should be.

[Anonymous No.1763347]

>>1763341
I don't think it's bad. If you just want to know how off you are. But if you try making corrections then move it off again.

[Anonymous No.1763353]

>>1763341

Sure, it'll help you seeing your mistakes. But when you do you should delete your initial stuff entirely and try again, keeping in mind what you messed up on

[Anonymous No.1763355]

>tfw im switching to art next semester
>tfw summer finals so i don't have time to draw, because im studying

[Anonymous No.1763367]

>>1763341
reference and even tracing is not bad - as long as you know why you are doing it (checking for msitakes for example)
but know that you can (and should be able to) copy drawings as good as if it was traced with some exercise
look into "drawing on the right side of the brain"

[Anonymous No.1763396]

This thread was a great idea, kudos to the people who made it happen

[Anonymous No.1763517]

>>1763085

Terrible. His torso is completely rigid and gives no sense of movement. You'd do better to have it twist.

[Anonymous No.1763556]

I only drew 4 heads today, and they're all shit. And now I'm wasting my time bitching to you and not drawing. Fuck. Gonna try again. I it hate when nothing turns right.

[Anonymous No.1763584]

>>1763556
I feel you, i am too at 4 heads going through my 5th and thinking of napping, being awake and not drawing seems like a waste of time.
Maybe i will start another book later, using only Loomis is getting tiresome.

[Anonymous No.1763588]

>>1763584
Not even at Loomis stage yet, I'm doing Keys to Drawing, trying to get facial proportions right. Drew my 5th head right now, still way off. Doing the tasks over and over again till I feel good about my drawing, but today it's just not happening for some reason. I want to understand anatomy, light and form already. I'm still at contour stage and it's tiring as fuck.

Good luck to you, maybe a nap will do good for the both of us. Going to try drawing the 6th head, if it doesn't turn well I'll take a break.

[You're Mom No.1763608]

http://grooveshark.com/s/Hearts+On+Fire/2tLO3k?src=5

[Anonymous No.1763654]

I just practicing doges these days.

[Anonymous No.1763657]

Alright, so I decided to get into drawing, but I have absolutely no artistic experience outside of a few art classes I took in school as a teenager. I've always loved art and the concept of creating art, but I never bothered until getting seriously interested into drawing a few weeks. I'm gonna be making an /ic/ folder and getting tons of references and example images from the board, but I still have some questions.

I've downloaded all of the Loomis books and read the sticky, but I've heard that there are better ways for someone who's an absolute beginner to get started. Can I get input on some guides for getting started? Also, when it comes to supplies, all I have are pencils, a fairly big pen set my sister never uses, and a sketchbook that I'm going to be getting in a few days. Other than a tablet, (which I'm also pretty interested in) what other canvases would be good for someone like me with barely any experience, or a canvas that I should be using to get experience using it? Also, what are some other supplies that I should be getting and get used to using? Should I just read the sticky some more?

I'd seriously appreciate some help, most of the stuff I've read here is really informative and you all seem really cool when it comes to being constructive and helping people who are getting started.

[Anonymous No.1763668]

>>1763657
This isn't completely related to your question, but I think it's pretty important to think about. Make sure you actually begin practicing instead of "getting ready to start". A lot of people like myself enjoy the process of starting a new journey (getting new materials, gathering resources like books, reading art forums to look for tips) and then end up not actually drawing all that much only to repeat the process of getting ready to start all over again a few weeks later.

[You're Mom No.1763674]

>>1763657
Absolutely no artistic experience you say? Stick with pencils and paper for now bruh, they're cheap as balls and they'll provide a solid foundation for anything you choose to use in the future.

I believe with pencil and paper you will progress faster and be able to save your money until such a time that you're confident your investment in a new media is worth it.

[Anonymous No.1763683]

>>1762258
Need help with this one as well. Will I get better with proportions as I practice or will I eventually need to figure out that the way I'm currently doing it is shit?

[Anonymous No.1763698]

>>1763654
What the fuck, how old are you

[Anonymous No.1763714]

I've been using Strathmore Recycled Sketch Paper (9in x 12in) and a variety of hard and soft pencils. I've also really, really enjoyed using a Sanford Ebony pencil (Jet Black, Extra Smooth) that I found in an old box from way back when I was in High School.

I am getting a new sketchbook tomorrow. Looking to get some new things to work with. Some questions, if anyone can field them.

What sketchbook do you use, and why?
What type of pencil or pencil-thing do you use, and why?
Does the type of sketchbook you use have any sort of affect on what kind of pencil/pencil-thing you use, and vice versa?

Been considering getting a moleskine, but I can never get a concrete answer from /ic/ on whether or not they're really worth the price.

Thanks in advance.

[Anonymous No.1763718]

>>1763657
Whatever you do, avoid the chicken-scratch.

[Anonymous No.1763776]

>>1763230
>>1763238
We finally found him.

[Anonymous No.1763778]

i know its shit, but whatever

[You're Mom No.1763796]

>>1763778
No worse than mine bruh. Don't worry. W-we'll learn to feel it someday...r-right?

[Anonymous No.1763809]

>>1763796
i dont even know what to do next, im so lifeless because of no progress whatsoever.

[Germany No.1763812]

>>1763778
You have a body readily at your disposal and a digital camera allowing you to take repeat shots with no waste beyond invested time.
Take a few shots of yourself doing this pose, use these as your reference, draw lines indicating the eyes, the brows, the hairline, the nose, the chin, nothing spectaular, think Hajime Sorayama's Gynoids.
Hair is your enemy. It will always be your enemy.

Draw armies of skinheaded monstrosities.
Your painting isn't shit, your self-depreciation as an artist is.

[Anonymous No.1763820]

Blehhhhhh

[Anonymous No.1763876]

>>1763776
>>1763238
I dont get it

[Anonymous No.1763915]

>>1763776

>tfw Proko makes a video about a question that you asked about 6 months ago and he manages to feature it with your old YouTube name

I find it really funny how people react to my old account name. But anyway , if I made someone laugh or happy , I am happy as well.

[Anonymous No.1763919]

got my degree, back to drawing I guess.

[Anonymous No.1763966]

>>1763820
cool man. you made that right?

[Anonymous No.1763978]

>>1763919
Congrats. What was your major?

[Anonymous No.1763983]

How many time do I need to do the Picasso drawing before I'm good at art?

[Anonymous No.1763985]

>>1763983

I always viewed it as a starting "you can do this" sort of thing, you copy it upside down once, turn it right way up and go "huh, I can draw!".

I'm not even sure if you're serious because that question was so stupid, don't ever do the same thing over and over again to improve, do many things over and over again, do new things and always push yourself.

[Anonymous No.1763991]

>>1762346
The thumbnail looks really good, maybe the bottom (base? the side opposite to the stem) should be a little less round and the highlight a bit smaller. The thumbnail looks very good, though, if it weren't for the big brushes It'd be pretty good in full size too. Don't get upset, though, having a good-looking thumbnail is a sign that you're doing things right in the general scale.

[Anonymous No.1764038]

>>1763978
Optical systems and networks, somehow this.

[Anonymous No.1764053]

>>1763698
21
Don't you like my cute puppies ;_;

[Anonymous No.1764058]

practice or something
i dunno

[Anonymous No.1764061]

>>1763714
I think you should ask these in a new thread or something if you're really interested. As a beginner, I don't think it should matter that much. I use any sort of paper I can find, even regular blank notebooks and printing paper good is enough for me. I mainly use pencils and pens. Once I bought a sketchpad that had a different texture than what I got used to, the pages were also thick and it was harder erasing mistakes. I believe it wasn't intended to be used with a mechanical pencil, but I didn't check at the time, just wanted to have a sketchbook.

Either way, I don't think I'll get anything expensive till I feel good enough about my art to show it off.

[Anonymous No.1764074]

>>1763820
yea :)

[Anonymous No.1764075]

>>1763966
yea

[Anonymous No.1764082]

Stole my sisters wacom to doodle, and gosh diddly darn it tablets are much trickier to use than I expected. Feel so awkward and bleh.
Only not long started my interest in art, been painting miniatures for years but never really put pencil to paper.

[Anonymous No.1764089]

>>1764082
That was a nice series.

[Anonymous No.1764186]

How exactly do you go from realistic art to make it look something stylized like this

[Anonymous No.1764196]

>>1764186
Just dumb it down
Also hnng

[Anonymous No.1764217]

>>1764196
Yeah, this guys Midna is quite the cute/Sexy combo

[You're Mom No.1764222]

>>1764186
>>1764217
Muh dick

[Anonymous No.1764223]

>>1764222
I cant post his other set Its down right porn

[Anonymous No.1764224]

[Anonymous No.1764227]

>>1764223
do it
or just link

[Anonymous No.1764230]

>>1764227
>>1764223
Porn is allowed, as long as it's drawn :^)

[Anonymous No.1764231]

>>1764227
http://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/1316896#search=BigDead93

[You're Mom No.1764232]

>>1764223
Oh lawdy

[Anonymous No.1764233]

You know, I would of thought I was going to be told "fuck off with that shit"

[Anonymous No.1764235]

>>1764233
his stuff is comfort zone-y and slow to progress

but we just wanted dat midna booty

[Anonymous No.1764294]

>>1764061
Possibly. Was considering asking this in the Sketchbook thread, since I think that would've been more relevant. And I know that feeling. I remember this one sketchbook had really thick recycled paper, and at the time I was still using mechanical pencils for literally everything. Would smudge and snap my graphite all the time.

[Anonymous No.1764304]

How perspective is going to help me make better faces?

[Anonymous No.1764308]

>>1764304
Having basic knowledge of perspective will help making you avoid skewed faces. Having the eyes, ears, etc. on the same height.

[Anonymous No.1764345]

Well I didn't notice this thread... and 4chan won't let me delete the thread I made so I'm reposting here.

Hey ic, I'm looking to pick a hobby that isn't just media consumption. I'm deciding between learning the cello and taking up drawing. Here's my first picture ever, I haven't drawn in about a decade and I drew it upside down like the sticky told me to, it took at least an hour and was literally the best I can do...Thoughts? Am I terrible? Will I make it?

[You're Mom No.1764352]

>>1764345
> it took at least an hour and was literally the best I can do...Thoughts? Am I terrible?

I'd noticed drawing takes far longer when you first start out because you have to be slower and more deliberate to make your lines do what you want them to. I've noticed that personally, even though I'm something of a beginner myself, I can draw much-much faster now that I've drilled dexterity with lines and ellipses enough so I wouldn't fret about how much time it took or if it looks a little wonky. In fact I'd say you did pretty damn good for being a first attempt.

>Will I make it

We're all gonna make it brah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTIFSBlHzR8

Like anything else it depends on if you stick with it or not. Whatever you choose to do, just make sure to make a decision and once you do you give it 100%

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgmVOuLgFB0

[Anonymous No.1764353]

>>1764345
Let me just check your future in this one picture

[Anonymous No.1764359]

>>1764352

Hey I subscribed to the youtube channel you posted, that video was really informative... I didn't know you could handle your pencil with your shoulder lol, I definitely use my wrist 100% of the time.

I have a few questions though, while I was drawing the picture I could note easilynthe differences in spacing and line work between what I was doing and the upside down original, but I found that even after three or four attempts I was unable to get it perfect. Is that normal?

And should I draw eveything upside down lol?

[Anonymous No.1764363]

Muh gestures.

[Anonymous No.1764370]

life is pain

[You're Mom No.1764379]

>>1764359
>I have a few questions though, while I was drawing the picture I could note easilynthe differences in spacing and line work between what I was doing and the upside down original, but I found that even after three or four attempts I was unable to get it perfect. Is that normal?

Yes, it's normal, just practice bruh. One of the best and simplest exercises I'd yet seen for this type of deficiency is one introduced early in the book "Keys to Drawing" wherein you take tracing paper and, after having left a slew of random dots on one page, you try and recreate it as accurately as you can on another, leaving marks based on the distance from the edges of the paper or from other dots. You then place your new page over the other and see how well you did. I've kind of tried recreating it in digital for you just as an example; hopefully it makes sense to you.

>And should I draw eveything upside down lol?

Hell naw, nigga! That exercise is just meant to show you how to detach yourself from the subject. To have the part of your brain that "knows" what something is in a social, verbal context (car, cat, house, etc.) and draws like shit as a consequence, to the part that sees it for what it's actually looking at, it's contours, colors, etc.

[You're Mom No.1764380]

>>1764379
*submit to the part that sees it for what it's actually looking at

[You're Mom No.1764383]

>>1764379
*submit to the part that sees it for what it's actually looking at, it's contours, colors, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaUSlmOo-UA

[You're Mom No.1764389]

>>1764379
>it's contours

Christ

http://www.its-not-its.info/

[Anonymous No.1764393]

Putzing around last night

[Anonymous No.1764398]

>>1764370

[Anonymous No.1764401]

>>1762136
beautiful gestures 2 me anon, right now i'm struggling hard to get to that level.

Pic is a thing that no matter what you'll say, and besides i spent 1 hour to try to adjust those fuking eyes, i love given its my first try with faces from imagination and tablet and it's a miracle compared to my other stuff

[Anonymous No.1764473]

>>1764401
Everything is too close anon, try to put some space between mouth and nose, his eyes are out of place for such huge head.. Unless you're doing some caricature, of course.

[Anonymous No.1764511]

>>1764473
wow i drawed the ugliest infant ever

[Anonymous No.1764513]

>>1764473
wow i drew the ugliest infant ever

[You're Mom No.1764535]

Decided I'm going to follow my own advice and relax on the digital a bit seeing as I'm still a scrub and there's no sense gimping myself further. I can draw (and thus learn) several times faster with a pencil than I can with a tablet. I'm loving this set up, too. I picked up an old hacked Nook with Android installed from some dude for $20, stuffed it with Loomis and Friends®, grabbed this old book stand that doesn't work worth dick for actual books and now I'm ready to draw Sinead O'Connors long into the night.

http://grooveshark.com/s/Angel/3KXPgP?src=5

[Anonymous No.1764563]

I keep going on autopilot and wind up getting the contours instead of the movement, which I tend not be too sure of when looking at figures. How do I break that?

Stuff like >>1762136 seems like the god gesture. Should I just stop trying gesture until after I get through all my Loomis books instead?

[Anonymous No.1764565]

>>1764563
Forgot to attach my gestures

[Anonymous No.1764652]

>>1764398
>>1764370

[Anonymous No.1764667]

Getting pretty less terrible

[Anonymous No.1764669]

>>1764652
hey beginner, the top and bottom row should be switched. also you should have spent more time on making the heads look right at the very beginning.

[Anonymous No.1764671]

>>1764669
>you should have spent more time on making the heads look right at the very beginning.

but this is the hardest part anon, specially on this dumb tablet.

[Anonymous No.1764814]

My robot sucks. Help.

[Anonymous No.1764815]

>>1764814
Get the How to draw book by Scott Robertson.

[Anonymous No.1764826]

Sup /ic/ looking for some general info from anyone who can give their opinion

While working through the beginners books (Keys to drawing/Pep made easy) and drawing from life, is it worth studying anatomy too, or should I wait until I start to get good?

[Anonymous No.1764843]

>>1764815
Was hoping to poorfag my self out of buying that book but it seems that's not an option.

[Anonymous No.1764892]

I want to draw this pose, but I have no idea of how red lines work, help.

[Anonymous No.1764893]

>>1764892
Here's the original

[Anonymous No.1764910]

>>1764892
Gesture anon. Mine is shit tho. I'd like to take an opportunity and ask other anons for some hints.

[Anonymous No.1764943]

>>1764892
no
>>1764910
and no
you both are missing the most fundamental way of thinking when working from complex subjects

[Anonymous No.1764950]

>>1764943
enlighten us, pls

[Anonymous No.1764964]

>>1764950
are you this dense>>>>>>>
ill let you figure it out i got family bsns meetings to attend to

[Anonymous No.1764969]

>>1764943
>>1764964
The douchebag general is that way, get >>>/out/

We are all newbies in here.

[Anonymous No.1764973]

feeling like the new one got worse

[Anonymous No.1764976]

>>1764973
bottom ones are just terrible wrong
get some fucking reference

[Anonymous No.1764981]

>>1764976
actually i do have a ref, it's pictures of the same girl taken in all those angles, i'm a beginner you know

[Anonymous No.1764983]

I'm the guy who made >>1762039

Started reading Fun with a pencil, managed to do this after a couple hours trying, I'm so proud of myself. I feel like Loomis left a lot of theory out of this and up to now though, feels like symbolic drawing general, I'm lucky to have a (wee) bit of a sense of perspective to help my intuition. Anyway I'm astounded at how quickly I managed to go from drawing utterly shitty faces to something that remotely makes sense. /me happy

[Anonymous No.1764984]

>>1764981
in that cake trace the original ref and compare it with your drawing.

[Anonymous No.1764985]

>>1764984
>cake
*case

[Anonymous No.1764988]

>>1764983
He will go a little deeper into face construction, for now it's more about having fun with geometric shapes.

[Anonymous No.1765015]

>>1764892

Bad. You try but all you're getting out of it is a mostly 2d contour. If you cannot attribute each body part to an actual 3d form then it will look wrong. Not a good way of referencing either.

>>1764910

You have the right idea, but not a very good gesture. Remember that gesture requires you to put in as much detail in as few lines as possible. On the reference we can tell that her hips are twisted in relation to the shoulders, and you fail to indicate even that on your own gesture lines.

My suggestion to referencing the pose is to first simplify the pose to a gesture so you know what is going on, and then moving on to fleshing the actual figure.

>>1764964
Fuck off.

>>1764973

If you don't know your forms, bad things happen. The chin is NOT a sharp edge. It is rounded, and even more so for younger, more cherub subjects. But here you've shaded it as if someone left a dent in her jaw. At such an angle we should see a gradual plane change on the chin like that of a sphere.

[Anonymous No.1765031]

>>1765015
Thanks anon, I'll return to gesture drawing after Loomis. I'm Definitely lacking basic anatomy knowledge.

[Anonymous No.1765062]

>>1765015
So, gesture first and then 3D forms second, right?

[Anonymous No.1765109]

Giovanni from Pokemon.

[Anonymous No.1765123]

anons help

[Anonymous No.1765124]

Is it a bad idea to try and study 3 different books at the same time?

[Anonymous No.1765150]

>>1765109
Study Edges pls would be a million times better if you had if ,

[Anonymous No.1765157]

>>1765124
Not if you can keep yourself entertained that way.

[Anonymous No.1765168]

>>1765015
i know. most of the time when i draw girls i need to put the minium amount of anatomycal information ass possible because they either end up looking like men or old hags and end up exaggerating in neoteny. usually i can pull off more realistic males.

[Anonymous No.1765234]

>>1765168
looks like a goddam different person every time i change the angle

[Anonymous No.1765245]

some practice

[Anonymous No.1765247]

>>1765245

That's pretty sick actually. It's hasty and messy but still communicates the forms well

[Anonymous No.1765250]

>>1765245
>beginner
fuck you dude

[Anonymous No.1765252]

>>1765245
>3A and Drossel
my nigga

[Anonymous No.1765274]

I did these quick sketches from imagination a few weeks ago, I thought they were alright at the time, now I've looked at them again I can see that they're all wrong.

I really just wanted a base or starting point that I can look back on and compare with newer drawings.

I should really try drawing from a reference, like really quick sketches and see if that helps.

[Anonymous No.1765281]

>>1765274
quick question, will drawing quick sketches from a reference folder or sites like quickposes help much with getting anatomy/proportion correct?

or will I have to do some other exercize to get better at them?

[Anonymous No.1765282]

I'm shit right now so I'll refrain from posting art, but I'll be lurking and learning.

[Anonymous No.1765284]

>>1765282
thank you for keeping us informed

[Anonymous No.1765285]

>>1765284
no problem!

[Anonymous No.1765286]

>>1765283
yeah you can also scan and darken areas in PS, but on paper your value range is only going to be as good as >>1761985 OP, if you only use HB.
eraser is good, don't needlessly limit yourself.

[Anonymous No.1765287]

>>1765281
I personally like how Michael Hampton approaches learning figure drawing like he detailed in his book.

[Anonymous No.1765354]

Literally my second drawing ever... this piece of shit took me like four hours lol

I'm moderately pleased with the horse but lel... that knight.. and I have nooooo idea how to shade.

[Anonymous No.1765356]

>>1765245
How does this style work? Could you describe, I like it but I'm not sure I understand. Also are the bottom characters yours?

[Anonymous No.1765362]

>>1765354

Oh and I drew it upside down... though that doesn't seem to have any adverse effects.

[Anonymous No.1765364]

>>1765354
>>1765362
bretty good for a second drawing imo.

[Anonymous No.1765395]

i don't know what to do with hands

[Anonymous No.1765399]

>>1765395

At least you've mastered everything else.

[Anonymous No.1765427]

Trying to do faces straight on, did the first one while watching a tutorial and the second two from imagination after. took a bit over an hour each. Any honest feedback?

[Anonymous No.1765434]

>>1765427

I'd recommend going for realism before trying to develop a style. If you were trying to make them realistic then all the features except maybe the ears are too large.

[Anonymous No.1765451]

Idk what happens to his jaw and what the second cheekbone coming out from under his ear is supposed to be

[Anonymous No.1765454]

>>1765434
naturalism

[Anonymous No.1765512]

Finished my paper stack, 4am - can't decide if I should keep going or go to bed

Left of the pencil cup are from real people, right are from animu

[Anonymous No.1765517]

I started drawing yesterday and my line control is utter shit. I can rarely make the precise mark I want and I can almost never accurately retrace a line of any length. Also my circles suck and I can not consistently draw straight lines... I'm hoping this I normal (is it?) And I'm wondering if at this point the best thing I could possibly do is just draw and redraw lines, arches, circles, shapes, waves and trace over them accurately three or four hours a day. Is this the way to go or are there better methods?

[Anonymous No.1765523]

>>1765517
Do these https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgDNDOKnArk

But not for three hours each day, that's too much. 10-15 minutes is what you should aim for, it's a warm-up.

[Anonymous No.1765524]

>>1765427

Don't construct faces if you have no idea what faces are made of. Your proportions are wrong, and the way you've done the eyelids suggests that you have no clue what eyes are supposed to be. Never forget that in drawing eyes you are depicting a half covered SPHERE.

[Anonymous No.1765525]

>>1765517
http://youtu.be/wgDNDOKnArk
and
http://youtu.be/AaZmwHU7vZo
will help you with that.

[Anonymous No.1765551]

>>1765512
Time for bed!

[Anonymous No.1765577]

>>1765524
i wasn't really going for for realism in those, and can you be more specific about the eye lids? do you mean the angles are to sharp on them?

[Anonymous No.1765620]

Drawing a self portrait. I've been staring at this for a while and my eyes aren't focusing.
Am I missing any blatant mistakes? Concerned with the eyes.
Sorry if the file size is weird, uploading from phone.

[You're Mom No.1765626]

>>1765620
r u a grill?

[Anonymous No.1765636]

>>1765626
>Drawing a self portrait.
Idk man, I really hope you can tell I'm a grill from the drawing

[Anonymous No.1765640]

>>1765626
it could be a little boy, you know.

[Anonymous No.1765648]

>>1762762
Increase the amount of time you spend in a day practicing.

[You're Mom No.1765672]

>>1765636
Y-you too...

[Anonymous No.1765745]

>>1765620
the eyes look ok, but the mouth looks a bit off on the left (our right).
therbus hanna

[Anonymous No.1765759]

How I don't stress over my shitty drawings? I get anxious for hours before start just in the thought of drawing and how shitty it will came out.

[Anonymous No.1765785]

>>1765759
Look at your first and your most recent draw, the differences between them will probably be enough to easy the anxiety and to show you're making progress.

[Anonymous No.1765799]

>>1765759

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ7WHuvdsjI

[Anonymous No.1765817]

>>1765745
I fixed up the eyes a little bit, nothing drastic.
And the lips are bothering me too yeah.
I altered it a bit but shit is still off. I cant exactly tell what to do with the top lip, my reference photo is throwing me off.

[Anonymous No.1765857]

Can someone help me with this? I have heard about this color-pick blending method and have seen it a bunch but every time I try replicate it I get a smudgy and staggered result.

Also its kind of vague, is he color picking the 3 values and using a lower opacity? or is he full opacity but softer brush? or combination? or is he picking from the tiny transition line between the two colors to get a third one to paint in the middle? Ive tried to find other stuff and videos but they all seem to not show thier opacity settings or if they are in blending modes.

Getting frustrating.

[Anonymous No.1765859]

>>1765857

One of my attempts and it still looks real bad

[Anonymous No.1765866]

>>1765859
Watch the ctrl paint vids about rendering. Soft brush is good to get a soft edge. Knowing where to put a soft edge is rather important too.

[Anonymous No.1765881]

>>1765799
>Sometime you have no idea what you doing, you doing it right

I feel you man.

>REMEMBER YOU GONNA DIE
>You never know when you gonna die so enjoy today
>Don't hide what you know, you gonna die
t-th-thanks.

[Anonymous No.1765907]

umm maybe a improvment?

[Anonymous No.1765917]

>>1765799
I love this guy

[Anonymous No.1765952]

So I am following the sticky and drawing stuff from life. I don't feel like I am getting anything out of it. What should I be doing to actually LEARN from drawing random shit? Please help.

[Anonymous No.1765956]

>>1765907
draw it now brah. I dare ya.

[Anonymous No.1765961]

>>1765952
Get the basic construction, like how to build things with geometric shapes start adding basic perspective, learn how to gestures and basic anatomy.
After that you'll probably be out of the beginner area and can start studying more complicated stuff.

[Anonymous No.1765975]

>>1765961
Yeah, I started doing the blook faces from Loomis. I finished reading Right Side and I get the concepts, but I still cannot make a photorealistic drawing of what I see. Should I focus on drawing from life until I can recreate it perfectly or should I just append drawing while I am going through Loomis, Fun with a Pencil?

[Anonymous No.1765984]

>>1765975
This is something I'm struggling to decide too.

[Anonymous No.1765986]

>>1765975
Dude, you're asking too much of yourself. It takes time to go from Right Side and Loomis' old men to photorealistic, just keep practicing.

If you really got the concepts of Right Side, Loomis' Fun with pencil is too easy, hit the advanced books in the sticky. If you really want to finish this Loomis book, go to page 36 and start practicing from there.

[Anonymous No.1765989]

Hi guys just a couple quick questions:
1. what size canvas in pixels should i use for landscapes. and what dpi?
2. i get a ton of brush lag in PS with windows 8.1(i know). System should be more than beefy (24g ram and radeon r280) any one know why?

[Anonymous No.1766004]

>>1765989
Is the mercury graphics engine enabled? that will take advantage of your gpu

[Anonymous No.1766021]

>>1766004
I have no idea what that is. But thanks a bunch for setting me on the right path

[Anonymous No.1766024]

>>1765986
Ok. The struggle continues

[Anonymous No.1766056]

>>1766021
no problem, its a feature in cs6. and for your other question, i like to use 7680x4320 (8k) for my default canvas. its the highest resolution anyone would need to go, for the most part, and scales down well because it has one of the most common aspect ratios (16:9) for monitors and TVs

[Anonymous No.1766130]

[Anonymous No.1766131]

[Anonymous No.1766132]

>>1761985

Did you mean to draw Luvia Petersen? If so, great job!

[Anonymous No.1766136]

>>1766130
>>1766131
these too are mine. im working on trying to not chicken scratch and learn form/proportions

[Anonymous No.1766139]

>>1766136
*two

[Anonymous No.1766141]

I don't usually do my training on PC, I prefer paper and a Bic pen, it was a tip I got from a professional comic artist.

[Anonymous No.1766180]

>>1766141
the meaty part of the thumb looks disproportionally large on the far right middle

[Anonymous No.1766189]

I am an absolute beginner. A lot about drawing puzzles me. What are some books, other than loomis, that'll give me a good understanding about drawing, and something that'll get me starting learning the foundation of it all.

Whenever sketching, I've always just drawn. I never learned how to use shapes and things, and then turning it into a real detailed picture.

But I'd love to. I'd love to gain real skill in drawing, cause I believe all humans should have the ability to draw, it should be a basic human ability. It's how we can share ideas better and show what's in our minds exactly.

[Anonymous No.1766192]

>>1766189
>other than loomis

[Anonymous No.1766194]

>>1766180
Could you please specify or do a paint-over? thanks!

[Anonymous No.1766196]

>>1766189
Michael Hampton - Figure Drawing and Invention
Burne Hogarth - Dynamic Anatomy
and all the other books of his authory
also Brigmans

[Anonymous No.1766197]

Can anyone recommend books with models?

Bonus points for wacky, nonsensical (but still anatomically possible) poses. I'm just getting into gesture, and Quickposes rarely presents me with anything conveying action.

[Anonymous No.1766198]

>>1766189
Try to draw from lfe and always have a sketchbook with you, starting by drawing what you see no matter how bad it is always helps. Also, try to observe things and ALWAYS have a critical mind for what you draw.

[Anonymous No.1766200]

>>1766194
thats the best i can do. but see how my hand is more flat. in your pic its too bulbous to represent the thumbs position. even if the thumb was bent it would a bit large i think

[Anonymous No.1766202]

>>1766200
Thanks! I suck at hands, I need to practice more.
I did these from photoreference but I guess i exagerated them.

[Anonymous No.1766205]

>>1766202
well that was literally the only thing i saw wrong. everything else looks great to me.

[Anonymous No.1766213]

I'm practicing by trying to draw 100 perfect spheres, 100 cones, 100 cubes, 100 pyramids and 100 tubes.. rate this strategy.

[Anonymous No.1766234]

just give it straight docta
am I going to make it

[Anonymous No.1766235]

>>1766234
disregard the double eyebrows btw

[Anonymous No.1766237]

>>1765512
>>1765551
your figures and poses look really good, at that point i would start practicing those in pen to force you to imagine the pose more before you start putting lines down. (or is that already pen?)

[Anonymous No.1766242]

>>1766213
are you having trouble with perspective? or are you trying to gain better line control? if its your lines you want to work on see this >>1765525 and if its to practice perspective than its pretty bad too. you would just be coping the same shapes; it wouldnt force you to even think of perspective.

tl;dr 1.8/10

[Anonymous No.1766246]

do you guys have any good porn refs saved?
just a bunch of anatomically correct doodles in different sex positions. or models.

pic related, the kind of pose i'm looking for

>tfw having to go through porn videos to find a good ref

[Anonymous No.1766257]

Tried to draw a basic representation of myself

anyone think its neat?

[Anonymous No.1766258]

>>1766257
2deep4me

[Anonymous No.1766260]

>>1766258
i'll take it. thanks mang

[Anonymous No.1766264]

something else

[Anonymous No.1766339]

every day until i get better

[Anonymous No.1766344]

>>1766197
http://www.pinterest.com/whitesnowy/action-poses/
http://reference.sketchdaily.net/
http://artists.pixelovely.com/
http://www.posespace.com/
http://www.onairvideo.com/croquis-cafe-photos.html

[Anonymous No.1766363]

Is this a good routine for an absolute beginner? (Started drawing two days ago)

> draw, shapes and forms, shade them
> draw staigt lines, arcs, waves, ellipses repeatedly for about half an hour, twice a day
> copy a drawing upside down as accurately as I possibly can
> draw my hand
> do one exercise in Drawing on the Right Side of the brain
> instructional videos for help/inspiration

Takes about 8-10 hours, thoughts? Thinking about doing this hardcore until school starts again to see how much I can improve In two months.

[Anonymous No.1766364]

>>1766363
My only thought is you'll burn out from sheer boredom. Give it a go anyway.

You could easily combine the first two parts by paying attention to the quality of your lines and accuracy of your shapes when constructing forms, and then shading them, like you're playing lego on the paper.

My advice is don't get too caught up in /ic/'s mentality of 'git gud', you're in it for the long haul and going full retard from the very beginning doesn't sound sustainable at all.

[Anonymous No.1766369]

>>1766363
>copy a drawing upside down as accurately as I possibly can

No. The purpose of that task on the book was just to motivate you to try drawing exacly what you see and be amazed that your ability is better than you think. After you do it once or twice you don't need to do it again.

Practice some lines and forms (not for hours, that's too long) draw from life (your hand, your reflection, anything that seems interesting to you. Just look around the house and draw something). Do the exercises in the book and finish it. Once you're done with the book, get another one.

[Germany No.1766385]

>>1766369
The book corrects a bit of the damage done by poor education and piss-poor friends and family.

It tells you straight in the face that you don't suck as bad as you thought you'd suck.

[Anonymous No.1766508]

>do study
>feel good about it
>look at it the next day
>it's shit

It's been six months, you'd think I'd improve even MARGINALLY

[Anonymous No.1766541]

>>1766508
If you haven't improved at all in six months you're probably just doing mindless copies instead of actively studying what you're painting. If that isn't your problem then try to pinpoint what exactly you're unhappy with and target that specifically.

[Anonymous No.1766866]

>>1766257
>>1766264
Learn to draw before learning to "art"

[Anonymous No.1766963]

I'm not getting the hang of this tablet thing.

Actually this is about the limit of my abilities anyway, I shouldn't blame my tablet though I think I chipped my nib.

[Anonymous No.1767063]

Sup ic, absolute beginner here, started drawing a couple days ago, following along with drawing on the right side of the brain and I've hit a snag when it comes to drawing my own hand (drawing from life in general)... I'm just unable to get the contour and dimensions right, when a finger is coming towards me like a claw I find getting the tip into the counter and then defined to look 3d really hard. The book suggests that most people will be really pleased with their hand drawing and I'm not... everyone elses looks a lot better than mine :(

Any tips for what I should be focusing/concentrating on?

[Anonymous No.1767065]

>>1767063

And here's a hand I just started and stopped before trying out a couple fingers on my own..l really I just find defining the contour super challenging.

[You're Mom No.1767074]

>>1766963
>I'm not getting the hang of this tablet thing.

It looks like you have pretty good control over your strokes. The only thing I'd say looks "wrong" per se about that image is that the nigga's like 5 heads tall.

>I think I chipped my nib.

Until I got a surface cover from "POSR.US" for my Intuos 5 my nibs were getting ground to dust after each individual drawing, it seems. How'd the huh did you end up "chipping" yours?

[Anonymous No.1767075]

This is something I'm working on and I'd like to get
some tips on how to brush and ink
>wip pic related

[You're Mom No.1767157]

The ease of use of pencils has kind of spoiled practicing in digital for me. Lines and rendering is pretty much effortless in comparison despite the fact I've probably drawn 10 times as much on my tablet. I suppose with regards to the lines at least it probably has more to do with the easy availability of being able to rotate the physical media and approach it from comfortable angles without even thinking about it. Maybe I should work on getting used to using the canvas rotation tool in photoshop.

[Anonymous No.1767289]

Put aside Loomis for a while and went back to the Right Side which I quickly abandoned.

I botched hard the back of the head, foolishly forgot to measure the width of the neck in various points. I surprised myself though, I couldn't believe I was that accurate at estimating with the pencil. Anyway, overall how'd I do?

[Anonymous No.1767293]

>>1767065
The thing is, most of the times your drawings won't impress you very much. What I can advise you, is to mirror the original image, so it will look foreign to you, and your view on it will be different, as a stranger would look on your drawing.
Most of the times for me, even a turd that someone else drew looks better than my awesome turd i spent lots of time with, just because their turd is theirs and not mine, and I'm not familiar with THEIR lines, and how THEIR lines don't look like the lines they wanted to draw.

[Anonymous No.1767296]

>>1766237
Great tip! I did a pencil warm up, then picked some easy poses to try to do pen only. I started with the poses on the left and worked my way to the right.

The pen is sooo unforgiving, once you fuck up, it just stares you in the face, no ctrl-z. You can definitely tell where I messed up in each picture... I tried to do damage control with fatter lines, but I can see through the lies and the ass pulls.

Thanks for the tip! Lots to practice now :)

[Anonymous No.1767298]

>>1767289
I like the "feel" of yours more, the original is too thick for me, even if it is anatomically correct - but I am just another beginner so my opinion means very little

[Anonymous No.1767324]

>mfw all I've been doing the last couple of days was copy shit from george bridman's constructive anatomy with a felt tip pen

[You're Mom No.1767526]

ayy lmao

le bump

[You're Mom No.1767581]

>merged the sketch layer into the painting layer

fug

[You're Mom No.1767647]

[Anonymous No.1767715]

Any good programs for drawing on a tablet or such?

The first one I found was Artrage, but the lines when using the pencil are inconsistent. I am not using a tablet meant for drawing which will influence it of course, but still, any recommendations?

[Anonymous No.1767758]

>>1767715
What kinda tablet do you have?

And yeah, there are a lot of programs. Are you looking for free, cheap, or expensive? Can you pirate things or can you not?

[Anonymous No.1767764]

>>1767758
I can pirate it, no problem.

I only now realize that by saying I might have implied "drawing tablet". I did not.

It's a Laptop with an included N-Trig digitizer, running Win 8. Probably not good for much, but I have it, so I might as well use it.

[Anonymous No.1767769]

>>1767764
And here's what I created out of boredom. I've never drawn before apart from mandatory school classes many many years ago. It's not finished, nor do I intend to finish it, because it's shit, but what the hell, this is an artwork board after all.

[Anonymous No.1767777]

>>1767769
Try sketchbook pro for the time being. Photoshop might be a little much to learn at first and takes up a lot of real estate. Plus you gotta draw before you can paint anyways.

Definitely work on your line quality, and work on a big canvas but zoomed out, then zoom in as needed. Then when you export the png or whatever make it smaller again to hide mistakes and wobbly lines, as well as keep things from looking pixellated.

[Anonymous No.1767782]

>>1767777
Nice quads.

[Anonymous No.1767786]

>>1767777
Drawing straight lines has never been my strong point, you should see my notebooks. Thanks for the info, maybe I'll even git gud someday

[Anonymous No.1768073]

I know it needs help, but I really don't know where.... I haven't drawn in quite a while

[Anonymous No.1768078]

>>1768073
Study linear perspective and start to understand how and why perspective affects proportions according to the orientation of the head. Perspective affects the figure much like a building is affected by perspective, start studying perspective now using primitives so it wouldn't bother you in the future but that's up to you if you are serious enough.

[Anonymous No.1768083]

>>1765395
Well what is she doing? The action or feeling, find it, and then look what people do with their hand in this case.

[Anonymous No.1768121]

Help with... ...Well, everything. But specially the eyes.

[Anonymous No.1768122]

>>1768121
shiiiiit

[Anonymous No.1768162]

Lel, here's my latest hand... I could make it look better by shading I think but I only have an hb writing pencil...

This is really hard!

[Anonymous No.1768164]

>>1768162

Also is there a good book or resource that just shows a ton of geometric shapes and forms I could copy from? It would be cool if the forms also sort of turned into objects, etc. I really want to practice forms and I know my cubes are wrong.

[Anonymous No.1768287]

>>1768162
well the finger nails are really fucking small for one

[Anonymous No.1768300]

what's the difference between drawing on the right side of the brain and the workbook? I read you can just go through the workbook and ignore the main book as they are pretty much the same?

[Anonymous No.1768311]

New thread >>1768309

[Anonymous No.1769087]

I want to study/draw animation what's a good book to learn the basics?

[Anonymous No.1769241]

>>1762673
I really like this, man. Wish I could do the same I'm so shit at shading.

[Anonymous No.1771302]

>>1762990
I like how it looks pleasing, but in an abnormal way.
Hone your technique and you will be recognized.

[Anonymous No.1771305]

>>1764053
Don't worry Anon, we all have to start somewhere

I'd recommend on building the chassis of the dogs to begin with first.

Unless if you were just attempting to free hand