QUESTION THREAD

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QUESTION THREAD Anonymous Fri Jun 13 18:48:09 2014 No.1752350 [Reply] [Original]

Want to ask something? Don't make a new thread. Post it here!

Also: If you ask a question, look through the thread and see if you can answer other people's questions

previous thread >>1744927

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 13 18:52:51 2014 No.1752353 File: 105 KB, 1024x529, stephen_0akley.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I saw this guy on dA and was wondering how he achieved this effect? Is it just a pencil drawing scanned then a gradient applied with maybe a few highlights added?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 13 18:58:21 2014 No.1752355 >>1752353 probably

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 13 18:59:31 2014 No.1752356 >>1752353 Yup, probably didn't even add highlights but merely avoided coloring those areas.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 13 19:18:53 2014 No.1752365 >>1752350 how long does it take to make a humble living doing freelance CA and illustration? assuming you have a strong portfolio.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 13 20:07:48 2014 No.1752389 File: 471 KB, 1280x1158, h6N9pnj.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I want to get into comission but I'm usure what style/aesthetics to adopt. I don't want to do anime and I'm unsure what else people likes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 13 21:21:43 2014 No.1752408 >>1752389 Do you realise how big is her right arm? :/

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 13 21:50:17 2014 No.1752425 >>1752408 She gives a lot of hand jobs. Bis and tris

Anonymous Fri Jun 13 22:08:16 2014 No.1752430

I'm 40 y.o. guy which desires to paint. I don't aspire to make a career out of it. My level is too poor for the likes of conceptart or cgsociety; and I feel uncomfortably creepy hanging on 4chan (I do it, anyway)

So, is there any forum where people like your parents would go to begin learning to paint?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 13 22:11:32 2014 No.1752435 >>1752430 They would probably just take a class at community college.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 13 22:29:09 2014 No.1752443 >>1752430 Give Wetcanvas a shot, there are a lot of good quality artwork over there. If I'm not mistaken demographic of Wetcanvas is older compared to other art website.

Anonymous Fri Jun 13 22:30:25 2014 No.1752444
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>>1752435
the kind of place i know is more for meet people keep seniors active. I really want to learn.

Anyway, as said, I'll keep coming here and try to ignore the candor of the youth.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 13 22:38:20 2014 No.1752447 >>1752443 I'll try it, altought that site looks confusing and focused on traditional media: I'd rather use digital.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 13 22:45:56 2014 No.1752454 I feel like an idiot but I'm having a lot of trouble cunderstanding cast shadows. Please, any simple tutorial?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 13 22:54:08 2014 No.1752456 What's the process for landscapes? Figures need construction for proper proportion, is there any technique to maintain scale in a landscape?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 13 23:47:08 2014 No.1752483 File: 121 KB, 764x956, 1401996860550.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] can some one explain me the step 2 exaclty how did he do it, what kind of brush setting did he use or are there other way with grid lines and pencil pressure thanks :)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 14 04:35:04 2014 No.1752610 I just reinstalled my Intuos 5 on this Windows 7 machine and I can't remember how to turn off those stupid circles that appear every time I tap the screen. Help?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 14 04:39:37 2014 No.1752615 >>1752610 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=tablet+click+circles+windows+7

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 14 05:01:27 2014 No.1752623 >>1752430 For painting do you mean digital painting? And are you already able to draw?

Anonymous Sat Jun 14 06:02:24 2014 No.1752640

>>1752615
I wouldn't be asking here if those sites actually gave me the solution I needed, would I?

But either way, I figured it out. For future reference to anybody else that may bump into the same problem: Tablet Properties -> Mapping -> Uncheck "Use Windows Inking".

Anonymous Sat Jun 14 06:37:04 2014 No.1752654
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im studying a lamp and just want some feedback. i already know a couple problems.

>the form of the base is off
>the grooves along the middle dont look realistic
>the two 'segments' at the top don't look right

pic of object in next post

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 14 06:37:49 2014 No.1752657 File: 1.37 MB, 2592x1936, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1752654

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 14 07:31:40 2014 No.1752673 When drawing from life should I try to reconstruct the object with primitive forms (cubes, spheres, etc..) or just copy what I see without constructing it?

Anonymous Sat Jun 14 08:09:28 2014 No.1752687
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since last night ive been having this issue with the brush.
as you can see in the pic the brush randomly lays pressurefree strokes every once in a while.
ive searched for possible solutions like renaming the settings folder and stuff but its not working.
never had this before really,it just started happening an hour or two after i got some tool presets. That makes me think the new presets are the culprit but as i said ive already tried renaming it and the problem's still there.
Its annoying.
>>1752454
what dont you understand precisely? a cast shadow is a shadow cast by a form hit by light. imagine an object like a cilinder, imagine a light is coming from its right so the object(the cilinder) is gonna cast a shadow to its left, on the surface it(cilinder)'s standing on. this cast shadow is based on the form of the object and the strength,source,distance of the light. im explaining it badly i think although its really simple. just observe things in real life, grab an object and put it against a light and you will see.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 14 08:11:22 2014 No.1752688 >>1752687 oh forgot to clarify renaming the settings folder with _OLD in the end resets the settings so thats what im implying with "renaming it"

Anonymous Sat Jun 14 08:12:22 2014 No.1752689

>>1752673
That depends on what you want out of your drawing abilities.

If you want to become a realist painter and you don't mind using reference for the rest of your life, than you'll want to check angles and get everything down line for line.

If you want to be able to draw from imagination, you'll want to break everything down in to basic shapes. Everything. Even while not drawing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 14 08:37:50 2014 No.1752702 >>1752657 >>1752654 General Proportions of things is off nothing looks realistic because you dont have a black value to you cant get nice shines, fucking break out the 6b and add in some dark tones darker the better trust me

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 14 09:01:37 2014 No.1752706 >>1752687 Fuck, I have this problem too. Though, I don't know if it happens to me with the same frequency as it does to you. I'd also appreciate any advice.

Anonymous Sat Jun 14 09:20:56 2014 No.1752713

>>1752687
I had this problem with my cintiq 12wx. I have no ideo how to fix it and it was one of the primary reasons I dropped the son of a bitch. I let an acquaintance borrow it though and he hasn't mentioned anything about it (I don't think he's using it as much as he's told me he does, though). I believe it's a driver/software thing that's been occurring between wacom and photoshop for a longest time and may never be fixed.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 14 09:38:16 2014 No.1752721 File: 50 KB, 969x633, screenshot1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do i get rid of this overlapping strokes when using photoshop opacity?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 14 09:39:44 2014 No.1752723 >>1752721 http://www.ctrlpaint.com/videos/brush-troubleshooting

Anonymous Sat Jun 14 10:54:16 2014 No.1752752

>>1752706
>>1752713
Im this guy >>1752687 and solved it via reinstalling my tablet. dunno if it works for you as my tablet isnt a wacom

this may be of use for you guys
http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/cs6_brush_tool_pressure_sensitivity_sometimes_fails_from_stroke_to_stroke?from_gsfn=true

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 14 11:11:47 2014 No.1752760 >>1752350 How can i get more accurate at seeing/placing angles correctly?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 14 11:29:47 2014 No.1752764 >>1752760 try and fail, alooot

Anonymous Sat Jun 14 16:31:31 2014 No.1752896
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I need some calming music to paint to

All I listen to is 3 to 4 minute-long rock songs and some stuff from vidya and every time a track ends I have to put something else on and I can't focus

silence just drives me nuts for some reason

Anonymous Sat Jun 14 16:50:14 2014 No.1752905
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Didnt find a good thread to post so posting it here.

Okay, so - how did i do with this one? I'm not new to sketching but i would still consider myself as a begginer. And is there any sense in doing this task with redrawing-upsidedown-picasso from time to time?

Anonymous Sat Jun 14 17:17:27 2014 No.1752926

>>1752905
>And is there any sense in doing this task with redrawing-upsidedown-picasso from time to time?

No there is no sense in that. It's an exercise that just shows you how important is to see things correctly and to not use symbols.
Now that you understood that move on. You don't need to do it again.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 14 17:46:45 2014 No.1752947 When drawing hair should one draw it from the top layer down or in reverse? In painting it's probably the latter, but with lineart I'm not so sure.

Anonymous Sat Jun 14 18:05:56 2014 No.1752957

I'm having trouble with actually getting back into practicing and sticking it out.

I feel as though I need some sort of effective structured routine to help me grind out and refine my skills because when I try to make some sort of routine of my own I get way to overwhelmed by thoughts along the lines of:

>"oh it feels like I need to work on this, this, and this but if I do that I'll neglect that and I have to incorporate realism into this but make time for gesture I should also do those book well if that's the case just do the books but it's not good to rely on just books fit those in, this routine is not organized..."

Then I try to look up some actual guides and courses online but fined nothing. What the hell do I do? I want to draw but I'm already overwhelmed by trying to try, it's pathetic.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 14 18:23:05 2014 No.1752966 >>1752896 The struggle is fo real >wants calming music >plays rock n roll >is lost, no idea how to search calming music

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 14 18:39:18 2014 No.1752977 File: 95 KB, 494x371, 1315447388224.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Do you have recommendations for any books/tutorials/refs on character design?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 14 18:44:06 2014 No.1752980 >>1752977 Is Pinterest on your bookmarks already? http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 14 18:45:30 2014 No.1752981 >>1752980 This is a fucking goldmine, thanks.

Anonymous Sat Jun 14 18:56:41 2014 No.1752987
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I have been painting with a mouse for a while now. I want to buy a (very) good quality tablet once I buy one. If I dont buy a tablet soon can it start to be a negative thing to my learning progress? Could I see a clear jump in progress after getting a tablet?

Pic related are some of my recent stuff.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 14 18:58:55 2014 No.1752989 I've being practicing gestures with charcoal, been trying to fill each page basically. Is it bad if it's really messy? I mean, they're just sort of to get the feeling down, not for show right?

Anonymous Sat Jun 14 19:01:30 2014 No.1752991

I'm creating an image for a friend.
What it is, is a circle positioned in the center of the picture plane. Inside of the circle coming from the right is the profile of his dog.
Very simple, very minimalist, sort of stupid.
But, I'm gonna paint it too, using only about three colors.
I was thinking orange taking up most of the space, being around the circle (yellow), and the dog being the color of the median between yellow and orange, so sort of a transparency effect. Would this be effective? Any tips?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 14 19:06:17 2014 No.1752992 >>1752987 Craig Mullins suggests to use a mouse and learn things using it. He says that newbies with a tablet tend to make a million of useless lines. For example did you study how values work? There is an excellent Scott Robertson video about it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 14 19:09:51 2014 No.1752996 >>1752992 the point is to think and be deliberate with your strokes, using a mouse is inaccurate and clunky, and will lead to wrist issues if you use it to draw for long periods of time

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 14 19:10:02 2014 No.1752997 >>1752989 I would just keep doing it, have fun with it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 14 19:11:23 2014 No.1753000 >>1752991 Maybe try it as a vector first, easy playing around with colours. See if it works

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 14 19:11:39 2014 No.1753001 >>1752996 yes it's innacurate, but it pushes you to think much more.

Anonymous Sat Jun 14 19:21:07 2014 No.1753011
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I'm having a stressful time learning anatomy. I sort of know the basic shapes of the body but the muscles that go into it escape me half the time. what is the best way to practice it? And is learning the name of the muscles important when learning anatomy? I kind of want to learn the anatomy of animals as well.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 14 19:24:39 2014 No.1753015 The following isn't a question for personal reasons, it's sorta like a poll question... or something. >why do you want to be a better artist? for the shekels, for the self-steem, for your so wished place in the industry, for attention (etc)?

Anonymous Sat Jun 14 19:26:40 2014 No.1753017

trying to get back into drawing and atm I'm just hacking away at a study via pencils since I'm comfortable with those while pushing the boundaries of wtf I know and/or remember.

I'm hoping at least this way whatever I struggle with I can put a bit more focus on. Can't help but feel this approach is kinda aimless though? Input please?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 14 19:27:50 2014 No.1753018 >>1752992 >>1752996 >>1753001 Thx for the input

Anonymous Sat Jun 14 19:31:51 2014 No.1753025

>>1753015
I enjoy drawing while I watch or listen to some faggot on youtube, I enjoy to know that I'm improving after comparing my drawings from a year ago to my recent ones, I think drawing fills "something" in me. So far I'm not getting money out of it, but I'll probably try to do commissions or something like that in the future since I don't think I'll enjoy depending on my parents' money in college.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 14 19:34:39 2014 No.1753026 >>1752896 Listen to whole albums you pleb. Burzum is what you seek.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 14 19:37:28 2014 No.1753029 >>1753015 Basically for the cash. It's one of the few things that's both fun and can pay you.

Anonymous Sat Jun 14 22:42:55 2014 No.1753168
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>little drawing contest for students will occur where I live
>age rank is from 12 to 20 or something like that, with separate categories of course, I'm at the top being one of the oldest ones
>price is cash
>I'm all like "I'm sure niggas in this city don't know their Loomis and Vilppu, I can totally win this"
>"expression" and "addressed topic" are some of the items in the Criteria list
>I like drawing serious stuff, and I consider myself a deep person, but paradoxically I don't like trying to force some inner message in my drawings (though I do admire the artists that achieve it successfully)
>with those criterias judges are probably going to be charmed with a shitty drawing that does have a message about being good with the enviroment or something like that instead of the one drawing perfectly potraying a detailed wild robotic dinosaur eating burritos and wrecking shit on an exciting composition
>like in every good story, a conflict appears: I want to draw what I like to draw and try my best at it and whatnot, but I want to win too and I draw what I like to draw during the rest of the time

What should I do, d/ic/ks, should I try my best with whatever I like to draw to make the best-looking piece so I can feel like my dick is bigger than it actually is? or, instead, should I follow my inner jew to give some 2deep4u message and rise my chances to win the money? should I draw the thing I like and >imply there's actually a hidden message they can't see because it's too fucking deep where there isn't? I don't want to end up having to explain the message either. What should I do, and what would you do?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 14 22:45:53 2014 No.1753170 >>1753168 Also, sorry for the wall of text, it's a bad habit of mine. And sorry for the english mistakes too (if there's any), it's not my first language.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 14 22:47:19 2014 No.1753172 http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000HTBBO8/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1402781657&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40 http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0027A39PY/ref=pd_aw_sims_1?pi=SS115 are these any decent?

Anonymous Sat Jun 14 23:06:37 2014 No.1753179

>>1753168

If you're an adult it wouldn't be nice to crush the younger kid's chances with whatever expertise you have, real or imagined.

People will interpret meta how they will, there was some guy trying to wring subtext from Jenny Saville's art on here that wasn't there.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 14 23:39:26 2014 No.1753192 How do I express myself via art? so much I feel yet such a hard time getting it out

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 15 00:21:06 2014 No.1753214 What's the problem with "chicken scratch" linework for sketching? I've been doing that since I started drawing and it helps me get out loose ideas quickly.

Anonymous Sun Jun 15 00:32:34 2014 No.1753222

In the last thread I made a post about this but still haven't found a fix.

I usually draw in Sai and have had no issues until recently. For whatever reason, while putting my lines down, they always look squarish. When zooming in its even more evident. I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling my drivers, never use the stabilizer so that's not the issue, tried downloading and running the program again and the same thing happens. This issue doesn't happen in Manga Studio, TVP, or photoshop, just sai.

Has anyone else had this issue and now the fix?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 15 00:33:23 2014 No.1753223 File: 40 KB, 114x114, asdfgasd.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1752350 How do I get hired to draw Magic The Gathering cards or the like. Do I simply draw some elves or whatever and send it through a submission pile?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 15 01:10:15 2014 No.1753239 What is a way to practice drawing faster? I've been trying to draw while completely zoomed out. Are there any other additional practices I can do that relate to this issue?

Anonymous Sun Jun 15 01:11:27 2014 No.1753242
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I'm learning acrylics, and I'm stuck on how I make something like pic related. I guess it would be called glowing or diffused light.

Is it just a matter of getting the gradients down or what? Pls halp...

Anonymous Sun Jun 15 01:15:17 2014 No.1753245

>>1753239

I'm not particularly interested in drawing faster but if I was I'd imagine I'd probably just set time limits to my studies. Like 1 hr for a landscape study to see how much I can get done and then see how much I'm conveying, basically like gestures. More focus on the whole and less on the details. I'd imagine you'd gradually get faster by doing this.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 15 01:23:17 2014 No.1753249 >>1753245 Thanks for the advice! It seems that most of my time goes into doing something, looking at it a bit later and then erasing it all do redo it. I'm probably a bit too indecisive.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 15 01:25:57 2014 No.1753251 how should i go about make a wooden pipe? i have basically unlimited pinewood

Anonymous Sun Jun 15 01:45:41 2014 No.1753260
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How do you hide the silly thumbnail in photoshop CS 6 that shows you what your brush position would look like irl? Pic related: this fucking thing is blocking a whole world of illustration.

I feel like the option is right under my nose, and I'm just too blind with frustration to see it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 15 01:46:09 2014 No.1753261 >>1753251 should probably ask /diy/ about making the actual pipe. ask /ic/ about decorating it

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 15 01:53:58 2014 No.1753266 >>1753261 good point

Anonymous Sun Jun 15 02:00:26 2014 No.1753271
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>>1753179
As I said there are separate categories according to the age of the participant, I think they're three.

I could try to do something meaningless that looks meaningful too, and judges would waste--I mean have a good time trying to figure out the message of it. But then I don't want to get the "cooool, whaddoes it mean?", unless I manage to make up some vague response for the question. I don't want to get any questions, actually. To be honest I should be trying to get inspiration and ideas instead of speculating about my future spaghetti drop caused by having social exposition.

Anonymous Sun Jun 15 02:04:15 2014 No.1753276

>>1753015
It's either this or Drug Binging/Overdose and resulting death. So I figure for self esteem. And it's working!

Main point: Anyone know any uber-effective exercises for building dexterity with your arm?

Drawings are a lot less chickenscratch, but circles and cubes have varying degrees of success. But hey, I can do straight lines now!

Also, fuck me my lats hurt, and I lift.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 15 02:28:14 2014 No.1753290 >>1753276 >> Anyone know any uber-effective exercises for building dexterity with your arm? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgDNDOKnArk This should help.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 15 03:20:28 2014 No.1753307 How I reach Ayami Kojima level? I just read she's self-taught artist.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 15 08:53:22 2014 No.1753442 I've gotten so obsessed with trying to nail gesture that I'm having dreams of drawing (and failing) it, and these dreams make me feel as though I didn't sleep at all . At this point should I just give it a break and try again in a few days?

Anonymous Sun Jun 15 12:29:41 2014 No.1753556

Do you guys have days where you just feel shit at drawing? Because I've had that for the past couple of days now, and it's really worrying me; almost as if I've lost skill. What do you guys do to deal with this?

>>1753442
Take it easy, and don't stress yourself. Gesture is a pretty huge field, so it's not a big deal that you can't "nail" the whole thing in one go.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 15 13:17:34 2014 No.1753600 how does one do a value study? My colouring is shit as hell and I want practice. Do you just throw up a reference picture and paint a lookalike?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 15 13:34:32 2014 No.1753618 >>1753223 ahahahahahaha

Anonymous Sun Jun 15 13:59:09 2014 No.1753652
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Hello /ic/ I want to get into drawing, after years of idling and doing nothing, I finally want to be able to draw out what I see in my head. What book would be best for me? I have hardly ever drawn in my life, no basic skills or none of that.

What is the ultimate noob friendly book I can get that would help me with the fundamentals? Thank you friends.

Anonymous Sun Jun 15 14:48:00 2014 No.1753704

>>1753556

I've found that it happens when you learn something new. Before you learned the new knowledge some things were automatic, you did them without thinking actively. But now that you have to add the new skill, you concentrate on everything you do, to try to integreate the new knowledge, which makes you less relaxed and you're gesture more stiff. You kind of feel like you don't know anything anymore because every stroke is hard again....so it takes a few days to trial and error till you find how to apply the knew knowledge. Once that happens you usually get back to doing what you know how to do automaticly and get a sudden break trough.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 15 14:51:56 2014 No.1753711 >>1753652 Check the sticky

Anonymous Sun Jun 15 14:55:05 2014 No.1753712
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Whats the best way to study porportions, not as in knowing that the elbow is aligned with the waist and the wrist is at the crotch but like..actually drawing it out and this goes for inanimate objects too.

Do i just do some visual measuring studies? Specifics would really help, because I'm stumped.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 15 15:03:34 2014 No.1753717 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvCdx9tolkw Can someone explain how he uses the magic wand, select the line painted with the brush and fill in color? what i'm trying to explain can be seen at 0:07 of the video above

Anonymous Sun Jun 15 15:25:57 2014 No.1753735

Maybe I can't understand the phrase in English correctly. Can anyone show me an example of an anime styled female with "sharp features"? I tried drawing "sharp features" and ended up with a man. Then I made everything smooth and still if I hadn't added eyelashes it would totally look like a man. (drawing is kind of a monster-girl, they are probably not allowed here)

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>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 15 16:01:12 2014 No.1753770 File: 2 KB, 125x93, 1374938190353s.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1752966 u are one cheeky cunt m8 :O)

Anonymous Sun Jun 15 16:27:00 2014 No.1753791

>>1753712
It's funny... Your post answers more of your question than you realise.

The image you've attached is 50% of the answer. We draw things from oblique, profile views directly head-on or side-on to understand where the points correlate and essentially build our understanding of how to render the polygons in our mind.

To understand proportions and measuring on any object, you're going to want to draw a flat side view, a front view and back view before you attempt to put it into perspective.

That's the proper way to do it anyway.
The other 50% is practice.

Anonymous Sun Jun 15 16:32:09 2014 No.1753794

>>1753717
Could be wrong but I assume he's CTRL+Clicking his layer, to select the entire contents of that layer, then he is using the magic wand on the inside of these outlines to select the blank space... Then he's filling the selected area.

Someone can probably explain that in a less confusing way than me

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 15 16:54:39 2014 No.1753810 >>1753750 So it's just the eyelashes. Other than that these totally look like Seto & Mokuba Kaiba.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 15 16:58:33 2014 No.1753815 I'm going on a month vacation soon and plan to draw 6-8 hours a day in my sketchbook, I'm still a a newbie and was wondering what kinds of drawing I should work on while I don't have any sort of photo references like poses.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 15 17:15:26 2014 No.1753834 >>1753290 Many thanks anon!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 15 17:17:03 2014 No.1753839 Is the sticky still useful for someone who's been drawing for years and is okay but just wants to progress quicker?

Anonymous Sun Jun 15 17:24:58 2014 No.1753848

>>1752350
I'm planning on buying Loomis so that I can practice at work. However, my job doesn't allow us the use of pencils, only dry erase markers. It's some ass-backwards privacy policy that makes less sense the more you think about it.

So, do any of you guys think it would be detrimental at all for me to practice the basics with a dry erase marker/board rather than a pencil and paper?

I will also be practicing the normal way at home, but I spend a lot of time doing nothing at work so it'd be a waste not to utilize that time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 15 17:54:57 2014 No.1753890 how realistic should one achieve in his render?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 15 17:56:26 2014 No.1753892 What's up with artcollection.sitedrop? Can't access it at the moment.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 15 18:59:21 2014 No.1753919 >>1753839 It really depends on your skill level and how much you know. If you already know how to work fundamentals, just keep practicing, maybe get the books on the advanced section.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 15 19:05:33 2014 No.1753921 am i entitled to critique/give advice on stuff if i suck at drawing?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 15 19:15:09 2014 No.1753924 >>1753921 Probably cant be a valuable critic

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 15 19:17:46 2014 No.1753926 >>1752350 Best photoshop plugins to help w/digital drawing? Tips how to avoided this muddy drawings I keep on getting, the colors keep on overlapping rather than blending (not used to this from traditional oil painting)

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 15 19:23:03 2014 No.1753928 >>1753260 ctrl+h, or view -> hide extras

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 15 19:33:01 2014 No.1753937 >>1753928 >ctrl+h didn't work but view then [uncheck] extras did

Anonymous Sun Jun 15 19:46:37 2014 No.1753944

I'm trying to find a video series of college lectures that go over the fundamentals. I can't remember the teachers name but I'll try to describe the videos

>About one half of the lectures are over perspective and cubes and the other half is over ellipses.
>He uses a chalk board
>He shows examples of diagrams of machines he's drawn and he breaks down the steps
>He assigns homework at the end of each lecture
>He was an animator I think
> Seemed to be in his 40s dark hair, white male

I know my description isn't great but if you've watched them you should know what I'm talking about.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 15 19:47:59 2014 No.1753945 >>1753944 loomis

Anomynus Sun Jun 15 19:54:07 2014 No.1753949
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Can I use studies in a portfolio, or is this generally frowned upon?

I need several still life pieces for applying to an art school, The boundary between neat studies and still life has always been pretty blurry for me.

>pic related, something I'm considering using

>>	CK !!Bt8l8Pnewrw Sun Jun 15 20:09:31 2014 No.1753961 >>1753944 Marshall Vandruf

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 15 20:32:51 2014 No.1753980 >>1753961 Thanks I couldn't remember his name at all and his lectures are great. Also, do you know if his anatomy lectures are any good?

>>	CK !!Bt8l8Pnewrw Sun Jun 15 21:02:00 2014 No.1754001 >>1753980 Never watched any of his lectures man, Vilppu for life

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 15 21:13:14 2014 No.1754012 >>1753949 yes you can. what school/program?

>>	Anomynus Sun Jun 15 22:09:20 2014 No.1754047 >>1754012 Thanks, Kendall College of Art and Design

Anonymous Sun Jun 15 22:31:27 2014 No.1754072
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>>1752350
I really want to know if there is an certain style of art like pics related; if there is some way for me to go into a tattoo parlor and tell them "I want a tattoo done in Y style", what would I say for what kind of style this is? Or would have to just show them several examples for them to get a general feel for it?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 15 22:32:32 2014 No.1754075 >>1754072 is... that an erect dick on the right? what the fuck am I looking at?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 15 22:37:00 2014 No.1754079 >>1754072 I don't think it's a specific style, but you can say dark, angular, sketchy, maybe... Definitely need to show examples. >>1754072 She's on a tree branch.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 15 22:40:07 2014 No.1754080 >>1754079 Mmk, thanks for that. >>1754075 Now that I think of it, it sorta does look like a dick.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 15 22:41:23 2014 No.1754082 Is having a ton of naked woman in your sketchbook a must for getting gud? >inb4 fag

Anonymous Sun Jun 15 22:47:01 2014 No.1754086

How do you guys get ideas, besides just sitting down and sketching and brainstorming? I've looked into lucid dreaming for the sole purpose of getting inspiration from my subconscious. Also for some reason I seem to get a lot of ideas in my head during sex. It's the weirdest thing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 15 22:57:36 2014 No.1754096 >>1754082 a ton of naked dude instead works as well

Anonymous Sun Jun 15 23:07:25 2014 No.1754104

>>1754086
I find ideas when I'm NOT sitting down and sketching and brainstorming. I get some ideas while walking outside to buy something, while watching a movie, while reading someone's complains on /ic/, etc. I try to withhold those ideas, and when I sit down to sketch something I can already start with that idea. I usually keep going with something else in automatic-mode.

>I seem to get a lot of ideas in my head during sex
That's pretty funny, do you get ideas while fapping too? if so, you should watch some porn and hold the ideas you get while masturbating or something like that. It might work, a rather unusual ritual for ideas but who cares, we're artists right?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 15 23:07:53 2014 No.1754105 >>1752350 How can I stop viewing my canvas as a 2d surface? Everyone keeps pointing out that this is my biggest issue but there's never a clear answer on what to practice to combat it.

Anonymous Sun Jun 15 23:12:23 2014 No.1754108

>>1754105
Print a perspective grid on the page or use a projector to put one on your canvas. If you can't find a grid, just use a photo of bland background like a landscape or a simple urban scene and add new elements to it. New buildings, people, whatever, just make sure you're integrating them into the perspective of what's there. Eventually you'll start to feel out depth and won't need the priming.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 15 23:19:51 2014 No.1754113 >>1752350 If I delete my CA account, will all my posts be removed too, or do I have to manually remove them before deleting my account?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 15 23:30:33 2014 No.1754126 >>1754113 manually remove them first. It's safer in any case, but I happen to know that deviations do stay there indefinitely.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 16 03:49:08 2014 No.1754255 File: 128 KB, 612x612, 28a692e209aa11e3ac6522000a9f13a4_7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I can't go with Loomis. I should pick Vilppu or Hampton? Pic related, I want to draw like this.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 16 03:59:30 2014 No.1754259 >>1754255 Why would you want to draw like that guy. He's regressing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 16 04:14:12 2014 No.1754264 >>1754126 Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 16 04:15:43 2014 No.1754265 File: 32 KB, 467x700, redhead_33.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Best program for screen recording? Found Camtasia so far, but my laptop can't handle much, so wondering if it's the best option. Is it a lightweight program?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 16 04:23:47 2014 No.1754268 >>1754265 hypercam is totally free now and is dead simple to use

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 16 04:26:07 2014 No.1754269 >>1754259 Please don't say something like that. This kind of art is my goal. Can you tell me which one pick? Vilppu or Hampton?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 16 04:28:52 2014 No.1754271 >>1754269 Start with Vilppu, do Hampton after, also do a helluvalot of still lifes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 16 04:29:34 2014 No.1754272 >>1754269 Why not get the best from both?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 16 04:33:11 2014 No.1754275 >>1754271 Yessir, thank you. >>1754272 I will.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 16 04:36:35 2014 No.1754278 File: 41 KB, 498x700, redhead_10.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1754268 >hypercam Downloading now!

Anonymous Mon Jun 16 04:43:29 2014 No.1754280

I'm currently drawing faces (about 2 months practicing) I don't see any real progress. If instead of drawing just a face I draw an entire picture, with anatomy, perspective, etc I'll improve faster? Also, is that normal don't draw much better after 2 months?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 16 04:44:55 2014 No.1754281 >>1754280 Do you vary between studies and imagination (about 50-50) & what is you average time per drawing?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 16 04:49:52 2014 No.1754284 >>1754281 Smetimes I try to draw from imagination, but it looks terrible, then I try to draw from reference, looks a little better... I'm not sure about time, 5 minutes I think? I believe I don't more than 8 minutes.

Anonymous Mon Jun 16 04:55:37 2014 No.1754289

>>1754284
Well, you need 50-50 imagination and study to improve, You need to apply what you learn or you are just going through it on autopilot,

Doing quick sketches is fine, but also do at least one longer drawing each day (minimum 30minutes). This can be either a study or imagination piece, try to keep up the 50-50 here. In the longer pieces, decide how much time you will spent beforehand and keep fixing problems you find till the time is up.

Working from imagination is very frustrating, but try to relax and analyse where your problems are, you improve way faster this way!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 16 04:59:38 2014 No.1754290 >>1754289 Alright, I'll do my best. Thanks anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 16 05:08:50 2014 No.1754296 >>1753011 Find a good anatomy reference, draw it, then draw it from memory. Look what you did wrong. Repeat. It's tough, but worth it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 16 05:41:06 2014 No.1754302 >>1752896 brian eno's ambient stuff múm boards of canada

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 16 06:17:26 2014 No.1754336 Too poor to buy a cinquit. Can I buy I tablet instead and draw on it's screen? If yes, what's free app I can use to draw and what's a cheap tablet?

Anonymous Mon Jun 16 07:59:14 2014 No.1754390

I'm inconsistent, when it's on my own, I easily drop current works after around 2h and to continue for me it's a pain

between tired, fear, lazyness and procrastination, gonna move to a self made workshop soon to avoid being distracted

any tips to keep working guys?

when I'm in class I dont have this problems, only when I'm at home T-T

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 16 08:31:58 2014 No.1754411 If I study bridgman and bridgman ONLY, can I become a pro?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 16 08:54:48 2014 No.1754421 >>1754411 That depends if he's compatible with your thought process. That's why it's recommended to study from so many different fellas.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 16 09:00:06 2014 No.1754427 Should I get Ms5 or stick with SAI

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 16 09:12:38 2014 No.1754430 >>1754427 ms5 has better brush customization and some editing tools, more resource intensive but far less than what photoshop eats.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 16 09:17:17 2014 No.1754433 File: 197 KB, 1060x404, 1402863687038.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do you guys decide what to draw/paint? Whenever I know what to draw I get 2spooped/intimated and just stare at my screen/sketchbook

Anonymous Mon Jun 16 10:05:37 2014 No.1754447

So I'm reading keys to drawing and I reached chsapter 3, I need to draw models and find accurate proportions etc. I can't ask people to stand still for 40 minutes so I could draw them over and over again, which annoys me. How bad is it going to be if I'll just use ref pictures for these lessons?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 16 10:27:12 2014 No.1754452 >>1752350 Why do I only chicken scratch when using a pencil?

Anonymous Mon Jun 16 11:07:02 2014 No.1754474

>>1754447
Don't ask them for pose, just draw them while quiet, like watching tv, lunch time or something.

Life references are completly different than photo references, which seems more like a coordenate map of values with which you shall not learn to see.

Not saying photo references are useless, but it's different and cant teach you to see what nature does.

sketch dump question Mon Jun 16 11:26:32 2014 No.1754485

This is a question to know about a question I wanna do (lol): if I want to upload some pages of my sketchbook here (where I practice pretty much every day, but without reference studies because I'm a lazy faggot) to know if I'm gud enough to do commissions on deviantautism, should I do a new thread? if not, in which thread should I post?

>inb4 everyone's good for deviantart tier commissions
Yeah yeah but I have some other questions too.

Anonymous Mon Jun 16 11:30:53 2014 No.1754488

>>1754433
Entering contests is a nice way to have a pre-defined theme for your drawing, those roll threads here on /ic/ are also good, you can get some ideas while walking or driving or whatever too. You shouldn't think too much about your drawing after you already have the solid idea, just draw it or sketch some thumbnails before you do it so you know where you want to get. And since teaching is also a good way to learn and get confidence you can also give tips to other anons implying you don't use to have the same problem (;_;)

Anonymous Mon Jun 16 11:48:26 2014 No.1754492 [DELETED]

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There are some people who are very good at drawing animals (furfags and dragonfags mostly) but for some reason they're GODAWFUL at drawing humans, why does it happen? how is it possible? take some deviantartist for example:
>http://shadeofshinon.deviantart.com
I would expect enough skill from someone as experienced as this finnish girl to be able to draw a decent and pleasant looking human already, specially since she has a long as fuck comic. But instead I see... pic related...

Even the clothes are shit. Is there some explanation for this? I can't eat the "oh it's because she draws more animals and dragons than humans" because you don't usually need reference for humans after doing a pokemon comic as long as hers half-full of humans. I've improved by drawing all kinds of shit and I'm automatically a lot better at something new I wasn't good two years ago if I try it for the first time, no joke, and I don't think I'm as skilled as that girl yet. But this is one of those times where I can tell how shit someone else is at something without being better than that person. Why does it happen? does she have shit taste at picking her lines for humans? is it just a bunch of bad habits at drawing humans? is it on purpose? am I the one with shit taste here and those human drawings are actually good?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 16 12:35:32 2014 No.1754521 >>1754485 You should make a Tumblr for them or post them in the sketchbook threads.

You're Mom Mon Jun 16 12:36:57 2014 No.1754524
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So I'd decided that I'd draw every hand and hand accessory featured in George Bridgman's book "the Book of a Hundred Hands" no less than three times just to flex that mental library a bit but I had an epiphany only a few pages in. His hands are very gestural and sketchy throughout. Contrary to Loomis whose books feature mostly complete images with strong, deliberate lines, Bridgman's book features work that is decidedly more "loose".

Long story short is it even desirable to copy this kind of material even though it's so "abbreviated"? Should I just use the construction techniques and information on the mechanism from the book but draw from photographs/my own goddamn free hand or perhaps even "fill in" what's missing from the illustrations in Bridgman's book with references of my own and basically create original artwork instead?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 16 12:41:48 2014 No.1754527 >>1754521 Thanks, I'll post some of it in the sketchbook thread as soon as I scan it. Funnily enough, the other question I wanted to do about it is related to tumblr. I don't like tumblr but I know I'm probably going to rely on it to get the shekels.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 16 13:04:10 2014 No.1754548 whenevr i save a jpg of my work in photoshop i cant post it here because it has "embeded file" or some shit. Resizing didnt help. wat do?

Anonymous Mon Jun 16 13:59:19 2014 No.1754606
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>>1754524
Keep in mind that his remarks about the Complete Guide to Drawing from Life being chaotic is because it's a poorly made compilation of Bridgman's work by the publisher. All of his other books are sound and material is presented in a logical order.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 16 14:00:33 2014 No.1754609 >>1754548 Never heard of that issue, but try the Save For Web command instead of the regular save command.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 16 14:54:31 2014 No.1754662 File: 27 KB, 500x334, 41hb9f4xs+L._UL500_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just impulse bought, is this a good tablet?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 16 15:16:12 2014 No.1754674 >>1754662 If that's the intuos3 I see, then it was a good choice.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 16 15:16:56 2014 No.1754675 >>1754662 Yes

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 16 15:35:01 2014 No.1754693 >>1754485 >>1754527 Just make a blog on blogspot or something it's better than tumblr because you don't have to worry about autistic furries and other crazy tumblr cunts you can once you got gud make a tumblr and rake in dat nazigold

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 16 15:45:51 2014 No.1754697 >>1754606 Is "Constructive Anatomy" a better book to learn anatomy from then "Complete Guide to Drawing From Life" and with learning I mean copy the shit out of everything

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 16 16:52:41 2014 No.1754750 >>1754662 It is. I have this exact tablet. Have had it for 10 years. It makes me a bit sad to see one in such good condition. Mine is battered but still holding up.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 16 17:13:34 2014 No.1754765 Any tips for 'creating' interesting poses from imagination?

Anonymous Mon Jun 16 17:52:22 2014 No.1754793

>>1754765
Have a clear action, intent, and personality in mind. Say you have someone sitting. What kind of chair are they sitting in: is it too big, is it comfortable? What kind of environment is the character in? Who else is he/she interacting with? What's the character's personality like: are they dominant; informal; friendly; reserved; outgoing? What has this person's day been like? Is there a reason they're sitting now? How long have they been sitting for, and how long will they continue to do so? All of these and more will determine what pose is most appropriate - studying body language by observing people around you will fill in the gaps.

The same thought process of planning your scene and knowing your character will help you come up with suitable, interesting poses in any scenario. Knowing a thing or two about gesture, guiding the viewer's eye, etc will also help.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 16 17:53:42 2014 No.1754794 >>1754793 I'm not the asker, but that's a very solid answer, nice.

Anonymous Mon Jun 16 17:56:39 2014 No.1754796

>>1754697
Constructive Anatomy is my go-to Bridgman, but his other stuff is good as well. Human machine will get you to think about weight and counterbalance. Remember to follow the advice in the earlier pic-related to get the most out of it. As for a secondary reference for clarification, Peck's Atlas of Human Anatomy is good. You could also find a lot of diagrams from Gray's Anatomy that are super helpful if you search for specific muscle names on wikipedia.

Anonymous Mon Jun 16 18:10:08 2014 No.1754806

Can someone please tell me what they think about the so called two ways of drawing?

People have been saying that there is the smart way to hit a professional level and the hard way.
For example, studying loomis, hampton or vilppu or going to FZD are considered the smart way.
Where as someone that does nothing but sketch in their sketchbooks everyday is the hard way.

Don't most people do a mixture of both?
Or am I just wasting time sketching in my sketchbook, knowing that my work is full of anatomical errors and incorrect perspective?
I want to believe that focusing on studies and methods only is possible, but it kills the creativity sometimes.

I have also heard of the 50/50 balance of studies/sketching anything you want.
I guess in the end it doesn't matter how you do it as long as you make it happen.
Though the thought can be really aggravating sometimes.
That thought being "am I really studying right? Isn't this way a waste of time compared to this way?".

I'm not asking for a magic instantaneous ability to draw,
though if I knew what I was doing I know I could put even more effort into it.

I just want to be able to draw people accurately in perspective. Is that so hard? I feel mentally challenged sometimes.
It's just a few shapes! What is wrong with me?! Damn!

I guess this is more of a rant then a question, so I'll ask again.

What is the smart way to study and practice, short of 120k for FZD or Art center? Just Loomis and the masters?

Anonymous Mon Jun 16 18:20:53 2014 No.1754817

>>1752687
>cast shadows
I understand the concept but I don't know how to...well, draw/paint them. Of course the perspective follows the surface it's projected on, but what part exactly is projected and how? How are different kind of lights acting?
Anyway, I suppose I should just have asked for good/simple tuts about cast shadows, if anyone has.

Anonymous Mon Jun 16 18:25:00 2014 No.1754823

I'm using Krita and I love it.
I tried Photoshop but honestly, I can't see what the whole fuss is about. When it come to painting and drawing, I mean.
So why are people so stuck on Photoshop when there's a free alternative like this?
PS : not a Linuxfag nor working for Krita, just wanna know what I'm missing, what pro and advanced artists see that I don't.
I suppose some of you will say that Photoshop is the standard and therefore you can't move things if you want to work in some industries. But Krita reads and writes Photoshop format, right?
And also, if you work on your own, like commissionned work, any kind of solo work, Photoshop compatibility isn't even a problem?

Anonymous Mon Jun 16 18:35:58 2014 No.1754839

>>1754793
Thank you. This is very helpful. I usually don't think much when I sketch, I just let things happen, which results in boring looking characters and poses (not to mention, my visual library is pretty small, so drawing a character standing for example is an easy way out to avoid 'work') I'll try my best to fix that nasty habit, I'm tired of looking at those uninspired sketches. This is going to really help me "connect" with the characters I draw, thanks.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 16 18:36:53 2014 No.1754840 Why is /ic/ called /ic/?

Anonymous Mon Jun 16 18:39:51 2014 No.1754844

>>1754823
The only reason I'm not using Krita right now is because I already bought (yes, bought) photoshop and Krita just won't work on the computer I do the plurality of my work on for whatever reason, at least not Gemini. The Desktop version seems to work as long as I don't try and "configure" the software. I'm still happy to have contributed to the project because what little I have used of it seems pretty awesome. I just don't trust it as-is to save my work so I'm going to avoid it for now, lel.

Anonymous Mon Jun 16 18:45:01 2014 No.1754849

>>1754823
>So why are people so stuck on Photoshop when there's a free alternative like this?

Because only recently Krita has a decent version for Windows, before was available only on Linux. Photoshop is on the market since ages. Adobe obviously spends some billions more in marketing.

>PS : not a Linuxfag nor working for Krita,

Even if they're on kickstarter Krita isn't a company. It's based on volunteers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 16 18:48:05 2014 No.1754854 >>1754844 Krita works on almost no computers. It's the things defining feature.

Anonymous Mon Jun 16 18:51:28 2014 No.1754857

>>1754806

There's no "hard way", if someone "does nothing but sketch in their sketchbooks everyday", they will progress BUT they will also gain bad habits. It's inevitable because they have nobody to correct them.

Then one day they'll want to correct those bad habits, which are now deeply ingrained in them.
It's smarter for a beginner to learn things correctly from day one.

But studies should have a focus, a goal. Don't stop drawing whatever the fuck you want on your free time. Those are 2 different activities. On the first, you're learning something new, on the latter, you're applying everything you've learned so far.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 16 18:51:45 2014 No.1754858 >>1754854 ...what I have 3 very different computers and it works on both.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 16 19:05:59 2014 No.1754864 >>1754854 what do you mean for not working? On mine works perfectly fine.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 02:34:06 2014 No.1755115 Can I draw "normal" things (example: draw a man jumping) while I'm making exercises to heal my symbol draw? Or it's better wait til I heal it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 04:17:09 2014 No.1755144 >>1755115 not only you have to do it, you must do it. But don't just draw those, observe them trying to understand where are the mistakes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 06:04:16 2014 No.1755177 Has anybody had any experiences with going to a figure drawing class that doesn't require me to enroll in a school? Preferably in the Los Angeles area.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 07:54:06 2014 No.1755202 >>1755177 Look for academys that are not mainstream schols/colleges (more traditionals) I would have changed that if turn back to the past, would have been less time waste ftl

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 13:28:37 2014 No.1755364 File: 751 KB, 601x745, russianbook.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Does anybody know if this book is available in English? I just found it in my folders today and I really like it. Idk who wrote it so I can't search for it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 13:32:52 2014 No.1755369 >>1755177 take Sheldon's boot camp.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 13:34:11 2014 No.1755370 if I could read those spacerunes I'd try and help you

Anonymous Tue Jun 17 13:42:52 2014 No.1755377

>>1754269
don't listen to that anon. It's just negativity. And you want to create, not consume. Learn how to make gestures. Both of them teach rhythms, Vilppu is beginner friendly, but hampton has a single quickly digestible book and a simple 3 part clip series. Hampton also has a great method for finding important anatomy landmarks, like a map of the body. The obliques are box shaped, the pectorals are square fish shaped, the latissmus dorsi is bowl shaped. It's really nice.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 13:44:09 2014 No.1755379 >>1754662 I was using my intuos 2 up until a month ago. When I was gifted an intuos 5. I also have a 100% working graphire tablet. These shits do not break.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 13:45:51 2014 No.1755380 >>1755370 that was meant for this nigga >>1755364

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 13:46:25 2014 No.1755382 >>1755202 i went to 4 year art school... what a huge mistake. NOBODY was there to tell me I was making a mistake. This is absolutely the path I would take if I had a divine intervention.

Anonymous Tue Jun 17 13:59:40 2014 No.1755390

>>1755364
Eh, I'm sorta familiar with Ruski Runes even if I don't know Russian. Google translate gives me "Teaching the Basics of Academic Drawing". Sounds like an intro textbook for a Russian Art Academy... nifty.

Google search of the title didn't yield jack, and searching the Russian title predictably gave me a bunch of websites I can't read.

If I had to guess, there probably isn't an English translation. If there is it's using another title, and I didn't see any authors on that title page.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 14:06:40 2014 No.1755393 >>1755370 <3 >>1755390 Yeah, I didn't think there would be, but thanks man. Shame though, pretty sure it's a good book.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 14:25:19 2014 No.1755406 >>1754662 It's a great tablet but you should've gone bigger, unfortunately you're going to lose about 1-1.5 inches worth of real estate once you force the proportions to a widescreen monitor.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 14:39:49 2014 No.1755412 File: 340 KB, 738x1249, marylin.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how do I abstract expressionism? basic things I should know?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 15:40:41 2014 No.1755440 File: 59 KB, 808x611, Kline_no2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1755412 Depends on what exactly you want to do

TABLETS Tue Jun 17 17:34:30 2014 No.1755499

>>1752350
So I know some drawing tablets are used with PC, but is it possible to use them separately? Say, while in a park or a bus? Are there tablets that can be used in both ways (assuming using them without PC is possible at all)?

When buying my first tablet what should its size be? Pros cons of sizes please.

Any answers appreciated.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 17:35:23 2014 No.1755500 Should I put perspective to use when doing studies from life? Ends up making a clusterfuck, even with H pencils. Readable, though.

Anonymous Tue Jun 17 19:10:34 2014 No.1755542

>>1753242

Layering color, glazing/scumbling, dry brushing. My diffusions aren't the best either, but this is my way of at least trying to tackle this. If you see this, I would love to hear how you're going with it. One thing art school never gave a fuck to teach me

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 19:29:55 2014 No.1755550 I keep fucking up proportions. What's my problem?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 19:39:09 2014 No.1755561 >>1755550 eyeball it, look at the drawing as a whole.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 19:44:55 2014 No.1755562 >>1755561 I'm sorry to ask this, but I'm really dumb, how I can eyeball something?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 21:25:29 2014 No.1755625 >>1755440 I want to do weird, emotional things, with coal and oil.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 22:04:58 2014 No.1755636 >>1755562 if it looks right it looks right, if it feels right it feels right.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 22:06:45 2014 No.1755638 >>1755562 Study it enough to know what the correct proportions are, then start doing imaginative studies and such taking said learning in consideration. Then you'll be able to know >>1755636 with enough practice.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 22:20:20 2014 No.1755644 I'm going to buy a Monoprice tablet. Am I going to screw myself out of $56? Some people swear that it works great.

Anonymous Tue Jun 17 22:38:56 2014 No.1755651

>>1755644
It's a good brand. Sometimes it has driver issues, but their return policy is perfectly fine too, so no worries.

I own both a Monoprice and Bamboo - don't prefer one over the other, but the Monoprice was half the price of the Bamboo for the same quality.

On the Monoprice I lost the pen pressure function for a few weeks and couldn't find the cause - however, it fixed itself and has worked perfectly ever since. The Bamboo has issues with turning touch on and off - even when turned off, the touch function (being able to use the tablet surface with something other than the stylus) keeps working at times and messes up my workflow when I accidentally touch the tablet.

A downside of the Monoprice might be that the stylus uses batteries, but for me personally that doesn't matter at all.

In short, I recommend buying a Monoprice. :)
Have fun making digital art!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 22:41:30 2014 No.1755653 >>1755644 My one irl anecdotal experience with a monoprice tablet has been an acquaintance complaining that the pen for her tablet was "going out" after less than two years; just thought I'd share.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 22:45:57 2014 No.1755654 >>1755638 >>1755636 Thanks for both of you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 22:54:01 2014 No.1755657 >>1755651 >>1755653 Thanks for the input!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 23:02:41 2014 No.1755659 File: 254 KB, 497x375, 43q7.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1755644 I had one until it broke and it was shitty. Stick with superior Japanese product.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 18 01:47:12 2014 No.1755725 >>1755644 For 56 bucks save yourself the hassle and just buy an "older" intuos that's at least 6x8 and usb.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 18 02:53:44 2014 No.1755758 When the /ic/ guide says about symbol drawing cure "other exercises include grid drawing, traced drawing and negative space drawing" what kind of tracing method it's talking about? The "infamous" one?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 18 03:45:20 2014 No.1755786 >>1755644 I heard second hand that Monoprice is pretty identical to Wacom except it lacks tilt detection, and runs on batteries which last several years. Also have cheaper pens. I think they're 10 dollars vs 60?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 18 03:47:31 2014 No.1755792 >>1755499 I think actual computer tablets like the Surface are the only kinds you could do that with. No idea if they have pressure sensitivity.

Anonymous Wed Jun 18 05:24:32 2014 No.1755845

I want to get into digital art, but I have no tablet. I wanted to try picking up some fundamentals, so I picked up Fun With a Pencil and tried going through it. No dice, even the very basics feel like I can't connect the concepts. I'm trying to understand drawing forms, but the book seems to spend almost no time focusing on the forms themselves, so I've hit a wall there. I don't have a feel for details and shit, either, so that's basically hopeless. And to top it all off, whenever I stray from basically copying his drawings 1:1, I always end up with hideous abominations. No matter how many times I put forth an effort, it seems like art finds another way to break me down. Am I beyond salvation?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 18 14:12:48 2014 No.1756066 >>1755845 Do still lifes.

Anonymous Wed Jun 18 14:58:00 2014 No.1756098

Probably a dumb question, but here goes. I'm just getting into digital art, currently trying to learn with ctrl+paint. The written instructions is fine, but the videos never seem to work (the operation timed out). Am I missing something by not seeing those vids?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 18 15:14:27 2014 No.1756117 >>1756098 Eh, I guess it's fine if you understand the text. You only miss out on seeing him doing it. You would need to watch the video when it's about something like anatomy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 18 15:16:02 2014 No.1756120 >>1756117 Alright, thanks. I'll probably look it up on Youtube or somewhere when I get to those parts.

Anonymous Wed Jun 18 17:28:45 2014 No.1756190

>>1756098
I'd try to watch the videos. What browser are you using? Have you tried a fresh install of chrome?

If for some reason you can't get it to play in browser, you could use a program like JDownloader2. Just copy the URL to your clipboard, launch the program, and it will extract video download links. Download those, then play them using VLC.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 18 17:55:26 2014 No.1756212 >>1752350 how should o set up the area of my tablet and the area of my screen? should i selected force proportions? i think my screen area is a bit bigger horizontally than vertically. maybe that's the reason i'm fucking up circles so bad.

Anonymous Wed Jun 18 18:55:34 2014 No.1756246
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>>1752350
Anyone know anything about Zhong Fenghua? I really wish I could find a speedpaint or something that shows/explains his process a bit more. I think he used CGHub but that shit's gone now so I'm having a hard time finding anything on him.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 18 18:58:34 2014 No.1756247 >>1756246 Way back machine?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 18 18:59:05 2014 No.1756248 >>1756246 I gotchu, boy. http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjMzODg3ODg0.html

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 18 18:59:38 2014 No.1756249 >>1756246 http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNTk5NDMxMTQ0.html http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNjMzODg3ODg0.html

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 18 19:09:31 2014 No.1756261 Does anyone know where I could get the massive torrent of ebooks that used to be in the sticky?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 18 19:13:22 2014 No.1756264 File: 672 KB, 821x747, tumblr_n3dmfnxf111qjkyovo1_1280.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] After a year of studying loomis, this is the best I could do. Please give me critiques of what I should do to improve.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 18 19:15:12 2014 No.1756266 >>1756261 go on the private tracker cgpeers.com, the registration is currently open. there you will find all materials you could possibly wish for.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 18 19:21:05 2014 No.1756271 >>1756248 >>1756249 Thank you!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 18 19:27:30 2014 No.1756278 is shadman the best internet artist?

>>	bad !!JHcekEv4kSc Wed Jun 18 19:28:54 2014 No.1756283 >>1752444 I Uh why are you posting shitty paintings by a shitty president? get inspired by good old people like Picasso, not this shit

bad !!JHcekEv4kSc Wed Jun 18 19:35:37 2014 No.1756290

>>1752987
still no good reply, jesus this thread

yes, you will improve a lot
one thing i noticed is that you can make drawings a lot faster and have much better finished paintings
i wouldn't recommend getting a "very (really) good tablet" if it's going to be your first one, get something shitty and cheap and if you like it you can move on (if you don't have the resources just save up again, use the time to learn how to handle a tablet)
you will be shit at first if you're not used to it but it will only take a couple of days to get better with it than you were with the mouse

also how the fuck do you not have carpal already? jesus who uses a mouse for that long

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 18 19:36:35 2014 No.1756291 >>1756264 Reference, more gesture, less lines, try to finish your drawing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 18 19:38:33 2014 No.1756293 >>1756291 Reference to what, and what do you mean by more gesture?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 18 20:21:36 2014 No.1756320 >>1756293 Gesture http://www.proko.com/how-to-draw-gesture/ References to study. A photo, real life model. If it was not the case already.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 18 20:46:47 2014 No.1756341 File: 17 KB, 300x300, p76960b[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is a tote board a good investment? I just use a regular clipboard when I'm sketching.

Anonymous Wed Jun 18 20:51:38 2014 No.1756343
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I understand everything in Scott Robertson's how to draw book up until this point. Apologies.
How does he draw the perpendicular mirror plane? Does he use a vp or is it just estimated? The concept of mirroring in perspective isn't that hard to grasp. I just feel like I'm missing something here.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 18 20:53:09 2014 No.1756344 >>1755659 This. If you can get a wacom, don't settle for anything else.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 18 21:18:53 2014 No.1756359 Newfag. About color : http://glitchcube.tumblr.com/post/85124703643/jesus-christ-the-amount-of-notes-im-gonna-die Does this look legit?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 18 22:20:16 2014 No.1756399 >>1756341 Looks like just a normal clipboard but with a handle, don't see why you'd need it you can still carry normal clipboards fine.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 18 22:22:18 2014 No.1756400 File: 186 KB, 383x565, hatch.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How hatch like Bridgman?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 18 22:47:17 2014 No.1756408 File: 320 KB, 524x676, sketch.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm finally starting to get proportions down, but I'd love some critique. Also, any advise on shading to avoid turning faces into hideous, blotchy monstrosities?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 19 00:09:29 2014 No.1756456 File: 1.03 MB, 736x4029, a85833f6ca701fff8d489396f9e636ba.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1756408

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 19 01:03:10 2014 No.1756488 File: 249 KB, 524x800, sketch2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1756456 Kudos for the handy guide anon. It figures I was trying to squeeze too much vertically, I think this should be more accurate now.

Anonymous Thu Jun 19 02:06:22 2014 No.1756515

why is it so hard to find resources on good lettering. It's one of my biggest sticking points. I have trouble with spacial economy and making sure my text is readable.

I would figure that there would be at least one good book that covers lettering in comics in detail but i can find nothing. Only a few web articles that don't really have the information I want.

Can any anon help me out?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 19 02:09:45 2014 No.1756517 >>1752896 I pretty much only listen to Godspeed You! Black Emperor or podcasts when I draw.

Anonymous Thu Jun 19 02:13:06 2014 No.1756518
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ok then, lets try on this thread.

I currently have a fuckton of resources (references I've gather, Vilppu videos, Loomis collection of books and I'm currently downloading Schoolism videos from another thread), everything up to 40gb

However, I feel like a retard, I've so much but Idk where should I start. I'm not a total amateur, but fuck, srsly, what am I supposed to do? Does anybody have a method or what should I use and practice first? Will I burn out if I just keep practicing aimlessly?

TL;DR have 40gb of resources, what to do.

Anonymous Thu Jun 19 02:23:24 2014 No.1756527

>>1756518
That depends on what you want to be better at first. If you don't really know but you want to learn great fundamentals overall, then start anywhere. I would start with drawing on the right side of the brain and liner perspective if you are completely new to drawing. Also, when in doubt, just draw. You have to build up mileage.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 19 02:24:09 2014 No.1756530 >>1756518 pick up a fucking pencil and draw faggit

Anonymous Thu Jun 19 02:28:41 2014 No.1756535

As a colorblind person I have a few questions:

First of all, I know my terminology is incorrect.

1. How exactly do I know what color I should use for shadows?

2. When painting with watercolors, would it be best to mix ambiance tones to the paint and then paint in a negative space to create shadows, or to have a shade tone already mixed and just paint over dry paint in the areas I want shaded?

2.5 Does it look bad to use any hue for ambiance? Is it fine to use various different shading tones in the same painting (for example pink for skin and blue for concrete etc)? Is it odd to use a specific color for shading instead of taking into account the color of the object that's being shaded?

3. Does sunlight give a yellowish hue to objects?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 19 02:32:11 2014 No.1756538 >>1756535 the sun is green blindfriend

Anonymous Thu Jun 19 02:47:15 2014 No.1756541

>>1756359
Yeah basically. I always highlight with warm and shade with cool by default
>>1756535
I'll assume you're red-green blind.
1. Choose a cooler color for shadows, so something closer to blue.
2. Don't paint, sorry
3. Yeah the color you choose does matter. Think of it like seasonings you cook with. If you don't add enough then it tastes bland, if you add just anything it's gross. Same with color. If you don't use enough it looks bland (sometimes done on purpose), and if you use the wrong colors it clashes too much. Your specific example sounds fine. And you always should take into account what color the object is and the ambient lighting.

3. Yes it does. Some indoor lights tint everything cyanish blue. It's that almost white color between blue and green.

Anonymous Thu Jun 19 02:59:11 2014 No.1756548

>>1756541
The colorblind here, thanks a lot. I know choosing any color for the shadings would be a mistake, but I imagine changing the shading color slightly from one end of a painting to the other would create a nice effect in some cases, no? One last thing, if you will: I often see white houses/structures and when I look at the shadows in it I don't know if it's gray or blue. Logic says gray but assuming skylight is hitting the darker side then should it be blue?
I always try to imagine whatever I look at as how it would look in a cloudy day and then add saturation and some brightness to the areas hit by the light, as well a hint of sunlight. I find this would be easier than to try to find an appropriate color for the shadows based on the original colors. However I feel that this kind of takes away from the beauty of hue changes in shadows, but I'm not very sure how I should go about that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 19 03:02:23 2014 No.1756550 >>1756548 Also I'm sorry if my post is a little too vague. You don't have to answer any specific question, just a comment would be fine, really. Again, thanks for the tips.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 19 03:12:06 2014 No.1756555 >>1756541 >Yeah basically. I always highlight with warm and shade with cool by default Thanks. So I assume special cases are colored lights and obviously "unrealistic" coloring.

Anonymous Thu Jun 19 03:26:44 2014 No.1756560
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>>1756550
I think I usually get enough hue variance just by tinting every color normally. The shadows of a red object are a little purple, while the shadows of a yellow one are a little green. Things in heavier shadows or lighting will have heavier tint.

And whites reflect the color of what's around them. So a white ball in some grass would probably have both green and blue shadows on it.
You can color pick this image in MS Paint to see.

Anonymous Thu Jun 19 03:35:00 2014 No.1756568
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How does one submit their portfolio to applibot? Specifically LotC? It seems like the submit page is in beta or something and directs you back to the contact page.

Or does anyone have the email specifically for LotC submissions?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 19 03:36:10 2014 No.1756570 File: 161 KB, 1205x796, colors .jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1756560 Nice. I think I understand better now, thanks!

Anonymous Thu Jun 19 03:40:56 2014 No.1756572

>>1756530
I forgot to inb4 this
>>1756527
thank you, Im not completely new to drawing, been taking it seriously for about 2 years. I guess all the resources just overwhelmed me.

Gotta start with anatomy with vilppu then
Also, second question: ¿what courses/books etc are good or great for drawing environments, characters, etc? (like how to work with thumbnails, etc) I wanna go that way.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 19 05:37:26 2014 No.1756615 how do i study values ?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 19 05:38:43 2014 No.1756616 File: 73 KB, 1081x735, ss (2014-06-19 at 05.32.15).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Slightly unrelated to the board in general, but anyone have any clue what these things are called?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 19 05:39:23 2014 No.1756617 >>1756615 by sticking your dick in a blender and then do a still life or two

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 19 06:34:06 2014 No.1756641 >>1756572 Thumbnails for composition? Either way, Scott Robertson's how to draw. It's on amazon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 19 06:39:15 2014 No.1756644 >>1756572 Also, http://youtu.be/dnflBERf2zM

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 19 06:41:57 2014 No.1756647 >>1756616 Nomad art satchel?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 19 10:21:14 2014 No.1756735 >>1756190 I tried using Chrome, Firefox, and even Internet Explorer. None work, so I'll try downloading it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 19 10:30:03 2014 No.1756737 My brother was drawing for 4 hours to apply for some art school. Subject: numbers He drew a whore. I called him immature fool. Does he have any chance to get in?(he draws like a beginner that got some through basic)

Anonymous Thu Jun 19 10:36:32 2014 No.1756738

Hey /ic/.

Currently I'm pretty content with my observation and copying skill, drew a couple of portrait from photo (no access to life figure drawing) and the results seems fine to me. However I still lack the ability to draw from imagination. As of now I'm going to learn gesture and anatomy, is there any other things I should take note of?

Btw, does "style" come naturally after mastering the proper human figure drawing, or do I have to copy many other artist's work in order to create my own new style?

That's it for now, thanks!

Anonymous Thu Jun 19 11:12:59 2014 No.1756757

>>1756738
Style come naturally, and you don't have to master the figure to have a style. You need to expose yourself to new art as often as possible, he work of other artists is the biggest influence on style, but your style is also influenced by other life experiences and personal taste.

Drawing from imagination is important too, especially in developing a style. Just take a break from studies now and then to paint a canvas without regard for the outcome, a loosening up exercise from imagination

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 19 11:17:51 2014 No.1756765 >>1756641 >>1756644 Thank you, anon. I dropped FZD videos just on that one, I guess is time to watch them again

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 19 11:57:41 2014 No.1756789 >>1756735 here, just found out for some godforsaken reason Vimeo is blocked in my country. Fetched my VPN and all is well.

Anonymous Thu Jun 19 12:24:21 2014 No.1756799

Currently two months in learning how to draw, mostly sticking to traditional with a few color and value studies using the tablet. However, I took up drawing because I want to go into 3D animation.

Should I focus on gitting gud with being a draughtsman first before trying to go into 3D?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 19 12:31:50 2014 No.1756801 >>1756757 Thanks anon, guess it's time to widen up my art horizon

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 19 13:38:57 2014 No.1756843 to what degree of skills do art schools look for/find worthy from applying seniors?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 19 13:46:09 2014 No.1756850 >>1756843 Obviously it depends on the school. You could submit doodles on lined paper to your community college, obviously some place like Cooper Union is going to expect you to be in the top 2% of students.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 19 13:52:29 2014 No.1756856 >>1756850 >obviously some place like Cooper Union is going to expect you to be in the top 2% of students. that's not obvious at all. i doubt most people on this board have heard of cooper union

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 19 14:04:11 2014 No.1756862 >>1756856 I was implying that a top ranking school would expect top ranking students. Besides that if you're actually researching art schools and haven't heard of cooper union you should probably consider another major.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 19 14:50:39 2014 No.1756913 >>1752350 How is God's name do I color? I cannot color for shit. Pencil, marker or paint.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 19 15:24:39 2014 No.1756942 >>1756913 You have to learn values first. Coloring is based values.

Anonymous Thu Jun 19 16:49:06 2014 No.1756991

I noticed the only way I can make my drawings look good is in photoshop, spending alot of time painting over it and over it again. But when I do line drawings or traditional drawings theyre terrible. How can I improve traditional and stop chicken scratching, and will it improve my paintings as well?

Anonymous Thu Jun 19 16:54:34 2014 No.1756996
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I have this strong habit of hastily drawing everything. I've become used to it enough to do it well. but I don't feel like i can slow down enough to do a different style.

How do I work on my draftsmanship? How do I go about getting that control?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 19 17:05:14 2014 No.1757006 >>1754840 Yeah... Shouldn't it be /ac/?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 19 17:08:27 2014 No.1757007 File: 829 KB, 485x282, 1400661159336.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1754840 It's an accurate representation about how we all feel on the road of learning to art.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 19 17:10:00 2014 No.1757008 >>1754840 >>>/i/ >>>/critique/ topweebo moot

>>	Dr. Dude !!xYApC7v7+j4 Thu Jun 19 17:22:09 2014 No.1757018 >>1754840 It's called /ic/ because the Anons here have a pretty cold demeanor.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 19 18:03:12 2014 No.1757032 File: 129 KB, 700x500, 1381515288409.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1757018 >it's not called /ic/ because we look at things thoroughly

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 19 18:11:07 2014 No.1757037 The guys whining about the Schoolism courses being down on cgpeers are wrong or something because there up right now The Drawing Fundementals and the Nathan Fowkes Color theory ones are pretty good right?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 19 18:40:52 2014 No.1757052 File: 1.94 MB, 3264x2448, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] should have got a god damned keurig

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 20 01:10:29 2014 No.1757291 >>1756862 i go to a good school and havent heard of cooper union why would you expect an applied artist to know about fine art education. you can be a good artist without that knowledge. don't be so narrow minded please stop with your elitism

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 20 02:11:16 2014 No.1757329 >>1753290 Motherfucking shit blastmarkers.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 20 08:49:35 2014 No.1757491 What is a study? When someone says that they are doing a "study", what are they doing? To my eyes it just seems that they are trying to copy a reference picture accurately, is this all a study is?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 20 08:57:24 2014 No.1757492 >>1757052 i'll have it

Anonymous Fri Jun 20 09:03:19 2014 No.1757494

>>1757491

What are you doing when you study for anything else? Repeating something until it is ingrained into memory for you to recall further down the line when you no longer have access to the material.

Doing study for art is the same thing. You draw an eye over and over from different angles until it is committed to memory. Then later, when you are doing your own artworks, you recall what an eye looks like from the angle you need and you draw it without having to look for a reference.

This applies to doing any study in art, not just remembering what things look like. Composition studies teach you to quickly spot good and bad compositions, therefore allowing you yourself to create good compositions. Perspective studies do the same thing... etc.

It's important that you are actively trying to understand what is happening in your reference picture, and then applying what you've learnt as much as possible in your own original pieces. Art isn't much different from anything else in life; it just takes effective, efficient and repetitive effort to become adept.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 20 09:05:53 2014 No.1757495 >>1757494 Normally I stare at my books, say fuck it, and go watch some "friends" on netflix. But yeah, I get what you mean, thanks for the help, now I know.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 20 09:13:54 2014 No.1757499 Sorry for this noob question but is drawing people from photo considered study? Is it bad if the work produce are identical to the photo, i.e unaltered?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 20 09:14:58 2014 No.1757500 >>1757499 Edit: nevermind didn't notice the post above, sorry!

Anonymous Fri Jun 20 09:22:19 2014 No.1757502
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Ho do I draw a perfect cube in perspective?

I make a square and I use the vanishing point. But then how do I know where the green lines have to be placed? Is there a trick or do I have just to eyeball everything?

Anonymous Fri Jun 20 09:27:21 2014 No.1757506

>>1757500
>>1757499

Like I said above, as long as you are doing it actively (trying to understand why things are the way they are in the photo) and by eye (no tracing or overlaying) then there is absolutely no problem.

When it comes to studies generally quantity rules over quality. You're not trying to create some pretty, you're trying to learn how the world works. That's why you'll often see people submit pages of nothing but simplistic gesture and figure drawings that took them a minute to do each. The more they do, the more variety they have stored in their minds.

That's not to say there's no value in spending time on lengthier studies. Often more complex things like eyes will need more time allowance, and trying to rush through a perspective study isn't really the best idea. Not to mention we all learn differently and at different paces. At the end of the day what's important is that after you've finished the study that you've gained more knowledge than before you started.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 20 09:29:51 2014 No.1757507 >>1757502 you eyeball it

Anonymous Fri Jun 20 09:43:36 2014 No.1757512

What are some good books that thorougly deal with rendering and lighting? Focusing on basic shapes, how overexposed, underexposed lighting works, how the specularity of the object changes the highlight intensity, differences between overcast and directional light, difference in surface materials and so on and on.

I've looked through the sticky but there's surprisingly a lack of books that cover this topic in its entirety. Most books have a short chapter on rendering and that's it. And yes I know the best way to learn about this stuff is to draw from life, I'm not trying to replace that, I'm just looking for some complimentary literature about this topic.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 20 09:56:35 2014 No.1757521 >>1757512 check this video by Scott Robertson: How To Render Matte Surfaces-Shading Planar Surfaces

Anonymous Fri Jun 20 09:58:13 2014 No.1757522

>>1752350
I remember reading about an artist, who painted a large canvas but it didn't turn out that good, so he cut out just one part - a dead guy on the ground. And that became an acclaimed masterpiece.
Can someone remember the artist's name? Or the painting's?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 20 10:26:44 2014 No.1757536 >>1757522 anyone alive?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 20 11:28:02 2014 No.1757562 >>1757502 There is actually a way to do this and draw a perfect cube, the method is on Norling's book tho (and on David Chelsea's as well) but as this anon says >>1757507, just do that

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 20 12:01:31 2014 No.1757588 >>1752350 Any tips on drawing children? Seems to be a matter of proportion... I am skimming through the John Norton book currently.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 20 12:18:17 2014 No.1757598 File: 48 KB, 416x336, norling.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1757562 is it this one? Using a square instead of a rectangular?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 20 12:38:32 2014 No.1757612 >>1757598 that's norlings right?, Chelsea used half a ellipse i think, I cant remember However, try to figuring it by drawing from observation

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 20 14:17:16 2014 No.1757666 Where is the point for any aspiring artist to give up drawing because they hit a wall that makes it impossible for them to improve further? When can I say, "Fuck it. Art and I were just never meant to be"?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 20 14:43:35 2014 No.1757683 >>1757612 yes it's norling I think that part on Chelsea's book is in the one at the end about circles in perspective.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 20 23:57:08 2014 No.1758085 >>1755406 I see what you mean. Kind of underwhelming but It is still a lot bigger than my old tablet...and the express keys/touch strip, oh my! I'm in love.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 21 01:03:57 2014 No.1758104 Is there any place on the internet where I can learn decent tradicional hatching and rendering?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 21 07:12:47 2014 No.1758238 What's the best drawing app for androind?

Anonymous Sat Jun 21 16:10:59 2014 No.1758520

>>1756518
im also reckolecting shit ton oof resouces. my plan is to star from basic to complex. first only pencil on paper and fundamentals. prportions, shading, perspective, gesture, anatomy. then imma go digital on this bitch and star studing colors and paintings and composition . from then on is just looking for especific tutorials. clothing hair trees animals enviroments composition. robots cars guns buildings all that shit.

hope it helped :)

Anonymous Sat Jun 21 16:52:13 2014 No.1758532

>>1756991
all you gotta do i stop it dry. draw straight lines slow down just enough so it looks nice but still try to do it as fast as possible. dont erase just keep drawing and try to do it better each time. at first it will look like shit but once you identify the shape it will look better.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 21 16:54:27 2014 No.1758536 File: 22 KB, 444x322, 1401076802011.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1757495 >watch some "friends" on netflix

Anonymous Sun Jun 22 14:22:02 2014 No.1759209

When sketching digitally do you want to draw at a smaller resolution, then bump it up when inking? For wherever reason I have a terrible time sketching at high resolutions/dpi and find it much easer when sketching at lower settings so I am able to zoom 70 to 80 percent. I can't tell if this is psychological, or if sketching at higher resolutions really does make it difficult.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 22 21:45:38 2014 No.1759513 >>1759209 What I always do is one of these: >sketching on a 1500 x 1500 canvas at 35% size >sketching small There is a lot of ways tho, pick the one which fits better to your way of drawing

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 22 22:49:48 2014 No.1759557 >>1759513 Ah, gotcha, guess I might stick with drawing the sketch at a smaller res, then bumping it up if I want to ink it. I appreciate it(sorry to ask in a autosage thread)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 23 23:49:02 2014 No.1760549 guys how do you get used to drawing fully sized work...Like I usually just create thumbnails in my sketchpad for works but as soon as I try to create them on a larger canvas...it just loses something

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