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Questions Thread Anonymous Wed May 28 10:15:39 2014 No.1739251 [Reply] [Original]

Want to ask something? Don't make a new thread. Post it here!

Also: If you ask a question, look through the thread and see if you can answer other people's questions

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 10:16:51 2014 No.1739252 I'm gonna make a manga, should I do left to right or right to left?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 10:18:26 2014 No.1739253 >>1739252 loomis

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 10:18:28 2014 No.1739254 File: 9 KB, 645x61, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is there a way to tie the flow setting to a particular brush? It's very annoying to keep switching it back and forth when I want a different brush.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 10:19:50 2014 No.1739255 >>1739252 No you're not. But if you were, it would depend on your audience.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 10:20:16 2014 No.1739256 >>1739253 loomis a shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 10:42:34 2014 No.1739267 I'm starting to get why people recommend large sized tablets. I'm having a terrible time trying to practice drawing from the sholder on my small tablet, my lines are looser on paper. Any tips?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 10:48:04 2014 No.1739272 >>1739254 Tool presets.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 10:49:30 2014 No.1739274 When is tracing EVER acceptable? When it's to help practice? Delete after doing such a heretical act? Should I kill myself for even thinking of it?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 10:55:55 2014 No.1739278 >>1739274 Only when you're tracing your work for lineart, and to fix things. Use a picture as reference, don't trace it.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 10:57:37 2014 No.1739281 >>1739274 faggot living outside of berlin detected

Anonymous Wed May 28 11:37:36 2014 No.1739303

>>1739274
Nothing wrong with tracing. It's just another means to an end, but it's not like you're actually good at something if you trace shit. Get ready for people to call you out on it if it's proffessional work. You may think that obscure porn photo isn't gonna get recognized but it do, and then people will doubt you had skill in the first place.

I trace now and then, but not when I'm doing actual work. Just personal pieces, doing some shitty photoshop or whatever. You trace when you want to focus on something other than what you were tracing.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 12:18:12 2014 No.1739316 >>1739274 If you trace someone else's work for something that you want to display/sell, then you're doing it wrong. Tracing for experimenting/learning purposes is completely fine. Tracing photos, especially ones you took yourself, is also fine.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 12:20:01 2014 No.1739317 >>1739274 Is it acceptable if you're trying to absorb a certain part of a style?

Anonymous Wed May 28 12:20:05 2014 No.1739318

>>1739274
Tracing is fine if you are doing it to try to understand the image, not if you are tracing to try and create something you will claim as yours.

I used to trace out the hip and chest constructs on difficult poses in order to better understand exactly what the body was doing while it was twisted/bent/contorted. It really helped me to better understand what I was seeing and helped me with my anatomy studies. It also made it easier to use more challenging poses as reference (not tracing) because of what I learned from doing that.

Other uses are: tracing to find vanishing points, or to understand perspective in a photo.

Again to re-iterate, tracing is bad when you are claiming work as your own and attempting to sell it, use it in a portfolio or as an example of your skill level. Tracing as a form of study for personal use only is fine, as long as you learning something from it.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 12:24:06 2014 No.1739322 >>1739318 There's nothing wrong with taking a photo and tracing over it. You own the photo, so it's not any different than selling the photo itself. >>1739272 Thank you a ton sir.

Anonymous Wed May 28 12:31:21 2014 No.1739326

>>1739322
I wasn't aware that we were discussing tracing photos you own. Apologies, you can do whatever you want with those photos.

But, you're still going to run into issues though if you make a portfolio of traces of photos you own and then use it to claim that you can paint/draw.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 12:43:34 2014 No.1739331 >>1739326 I figured we were addressing the point of tracing from all perspectives. >if you make a portfolio of traces of photos That's probably a bad idea though yeah.

Anonymous Wed May 28 13:02:42 2014 No.1739338
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I decided to play around with textures. Am i doing it right?

It's good that it takes me a long time to study the material? It's efficient at all? Maybe i should just draw the objects made from different materials as still life?

I guess i'll switch to cylinders for the next session, because it gives me round and sharp edge at the same time.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 15:24:07 2014 No.1739433 Do webcomic artists typically host their comics on a website they pay for themselves? And how do you go about copyrighting it and everything?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 16:08:26 2014 No.1739492 Should I look for an art teacher or should I try to learn off the Loomis books? I'm also trying to decide between an anime/manga style or a western comic book style for what it's worth.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 16:10:52 2014 No.1739497 >>1739433 Your art is copyrighted to you automatically the moment you lay down your pencil.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 17:33:53 2014 No.1739613 My town is utter shit for real life drawing sessions/classes. I've been able to use friends/family for portraits and other things. Is there any online alternative or should I just keep building up my reference folder?

>>	OP Wed May 28 17:40:27 2014 No.1739615 >>1739492 >Should I look for an art teacher or should I try to learn off the Loomis books? Both, and don't choose a style, ever. It will stifle you. I've spent years trying to unlearn shitty symbolic drawing practices.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 17:49:52 2014 No.1739618 >>1739497 Unless you upload it to Deviantart or Tumblr.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 21:59:39 2014 No.1739761 >>1739252 No fucking reason to do RtL if it's not published in Japan.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 22:03:17 2014 No.1739766 >>1739497 What do you mean? I can't imagine it's right to just host my comic on some page and say "copyright 2014 anon". Isn't there some process you need to go through?

Anonymous Wed May 28 22:05:24 2014 No.1739767
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I am trying to find tutorials for adding patterns to clothing like the pattern on this kimono and in the background. I'm still somewhat new at digital painting, so I don't know what this concept is called or what tools are used. Anyone have any tutorials/help?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 22:31:23 2014 No.1739786 File: 64 KB, 599x463, wtf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] If I use a large brush, I get these bumps. How can I prevent them and make my lines more smooth?

Anonymous Wed May 28 22:34:28 2014 No.1739789

I'm working through Fun with a Pencil. Should I be copying the strokes down precisely, like I did with the Stravinsky exercise, or following the general idea?

My instincts tell me the latter, because otherwise I'm not focusing on the discipline of construction, and I'm instead caught up on the practice of trying to learn "how to see" still.

Thoughts?

Anonymous Wed May 28 23:00:34 2014 No.1739807

>>1739789
General idea, as far as I know.

Related; how do I learn to draw 3D objects properly, like for instance just a basic cube? Is it just a matter of learning perspective?

What should I focus on when drawing from life? How should I best practice for true-to-life drawings?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 23:01:04 2014 No.1739808 I can't shake the tendency to use chicken scratching. How do I practice 'visualizing' where a line should be, particularly for imaginary people and poses?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 23:02:07 2014 No.1739810 Value studies - where to begin and what to learn (particularly books or something that I could read). Until now I've been going through Vilppu and Hampton, but they don't cover values all that much.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 23:13:51 2014 No.1739819 Is there any book/dvd that can teach me how become a good comic artist? Just to make it clear, I'm talking about a book/dvd that teach me draw comic style, not how create a comic book/writing style of comic books.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 23:33:27 2014 No.1739826 >>1739819 > I'm talking about a book/dvd that teach me draw comic style Yeah, they're called comic books.

Anonymous Wed May 28 23:45:56 2014 No.1739832
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Okay, not sure if this is the board to ask about this.
Let me know if it isn't.

I am trying to animate in Snyfig
I have circled two polygons in red.
There is another hypothetical polygon represented by the SOLID blue line.

I want the horizontal width of this blue line to be exactly the distance between the two polygons circled in red.

(eg. I can move the blue polygon anywhere along the y axis (depicted with white arrows) and the blue polygon will always touch the two red circled polygons, example would be the DOTTED blue line.)

I know you can link polygons by vertex in Synfig, is there anyway I can do what I am describing here?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 00:10:12 2014 No.1739836 What guide is the Vilpuu equivalent of color theory?

Anonymous Thu May 29 01:23:03 2014 No.1739856

How the hell do you fit a whole body on an 8x10 paper? Just to clarify, I ask about this size in particular since it's what sells well (for me) commission wise. The quality of just...everything goes down when I try to get a whole body in there. The face looks crammed, heads are smaller, etc. Should I just suck it the fuck up and stick to portraits on this size paper?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 01:26:08 2014 No.1739857 >>1739856 Do a small thumbnail, then do a lay-in based on the thumbnail. If the details looked crammed then you just need to get better at drawing.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 01:52:06 2014 No.1739862 >>1739857 That's so simple. Thank you, anon. I think I overwhelm myself sometimes trying to look for some complicated solution.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 01:54:18 2014 No.1739863 >>1739786 Brush settings -> reduce spacing Note that it might lag your computer if its old

Anonymous Thu May 29 02:01:18 2014 No.1739864

I guess I'll ask here too. After years of figure drawing I decided to try and paint some landscapes. I read color and light and have a basic underestanding of color and perspective but I am stuck on how to finish/render a landscape, I place the big shapes, colors and values but then what? How do I acualy make a tree look like a tree, a mountain like a mountain, when watching other consept art, it usually seem like random brush marks to me, is there something I can read/watch to get me going?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 02:07:36 2014 No.1739866 >>1739808 Maybe with this thing when you go over the form with your pencil a few times but without tracing anything until you can "feel it".

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 02:08:35 2014 No.1739867 >>1739866 Does anyone have some reference for different face/head shapes?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 02:09:37 2014 No.1739868 >>1739867 Oops, accidental quote.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 02:10:38 2014 No.1739869 >>1739868 It's ok, I happen to have some actually, was in another thread http://www.facity.com/cities/ I find this pretty useful, not sure if helps.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 02:11:59 2014 No.1739870 >>1739869 Aah shit son, that's perfect. Thanks!

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 02:13:46 2014 No.1739872 >>1739870 it would be perfect if the pictures actually had the whole head, for cranial shape, but it's pretty cool yeah.

Anonymous Thu May 29 05:52:15 2014 No.1739927

I'm making a picture for a friend's band. The idea is very simple. Positioned in the center of the plane is a large circle. In that circle is the slight profile of a dog.
I thought I'd only use 3 main colors, the dog, the circle, and the surrounding area/rest of the plane.
How should I make the colors effective and still limited?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 05:53:14 2014 No.1739929 Is there a way to create new brushes that can use the hardness slider?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 06:03:13 2014 No.1739930 Dudes, what's that book about studying master paintings/drawings. It shows you a master painting, and then the author kind of breaks down what shapes were used, or the flow of drapery. Shit like that. I completely forgot the name of the book.

Anonymous Thu May 29 06:43:59 2014 No.1739955

>>1739766
No, there isn't. If you made something original, it's copyrighted to you. Here's a quote from some website, I can't bother finding a more "legit" looking source:

>Q: What do I have to do to get copyrights in my artwork?
>A: Basically nothing. Under the copyright law, an artist is protected as soon as his or her original work is "fixated in a tangible medium," that means, as soon as the brush hits the canvas. The basic requirement for obtaining copyrights is originality. An artist can only get copyrights in his or her original expression, i.e., that which originates from the artist and is not copied from someone or something else.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 07:30:16 2014 No.1739971 >>1739251 I'd like to improve my basics, like basic figures, shadows and perspective. What should I read? I know few things, but that's not enough to feel confident and to avoid mistakes or understand construction enough to draw.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 08:32:13 2014 No.1739987 >>1739930 Drawing Lessons From The Great Masters? I don't know if that's what you're looking for and I never read that book, but the name fits your description.

Anonymous Thu May 29 10:03:17 2014 No.1740020

>>1739955
So traditional is cool? What if you make a digital copy and upload it online?

Also what's bad in drawing celebrities for practice? Some anon greentexted 'dont study celebrities' but with no follow up... I'm barely trying realism on my own and it's fun to draw musicians.

Anonymous Thu May 29 11:48:09 2014 No.1740068
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WARNING: shitty english ahead.
The more i try to do gesture drawing the more i think i got some wrong concepts from my readings and i find it hard to get rids of them in practice, i know the only way to get better is practicing, but i feel like i'm losing my time with an unproductive application of foundamentals. I Hope you can help me to undertsand if these statements i tried to apply on these shitty 30 secs poses from reference are right:
-the head with an oval, every limbs with a C or S courve, and the torso with two oval shapes.
-The goal is to put togheter these shapes in a pleasant manner.
-You don't need to know shit about anatomy to do gesture
-The rytm thing is not part of basic figure drawing, you implement it with anatomy.

I found them all wrong, i don't know what to believe in anymore :|

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 12:06:10 2014 No.1740078 hey I am a beginner should I get my basics with a pencil and paper or is it okay to do everything digital? I will probably do digital later on because no space no money. But yeah, the beginning - war do?

Anonymous Thu May 29 12:10:04 2014 No.1740080
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Is it stealing to look at someone else's art and try to copy the style?
For example, I have a lot of pics where I want to copy their style, not the exact picture, but the style of it to try and learn how to achieve something similar, get the shading, colors and whatnot

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 12:12:43 2014 No.1740083 >>1739987 Yeah that's the one, thanks m8.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 12:14:35 2014 No.1740084 >>1740080 Of course it's ok, it's how artists have been growing and learning forever. The more styles you try the more you'll find what you do and don't like

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 12:17:56 2014 No.1740087 >>1740078 Either way works man as long as you're learning the fundamentals. If you can start with pencil+paper then start now, it'll only benefit you

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 12:19:27 2014 No.1740088 >>1740020 Some sites automatically take copyright of your work as soon as you upload it to their site, it says so in the user agreement, so be careful where you upload your art if you are worried about copyrights.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 12:22:37 2014 No.1740092 >>1740020 Forgot to say, if you copy a photograph of someone else for commercial purposes he can claim that you are making money by indirectly using his work, if you are not making money with them however there is nothing wrong with it.

Anonymous Thu May 29 13:02:57 2014 No.1740130

I just noticed that the other thread is dying, so I'll repeat my question here.

I've noticed I need to draw people more. I hate drawing from pictures and videos though (I feel like its due to not being able to see depth I dont fucking know), while I can draw people relatively well in real life.

Other than cafes, libraries and art galleries, what's a place I can sit and draw at without facing the usual questions? (I mention those three because I really don't want to look like some kinda hipster or some pompous douche)

Dr. Dude !!xYApC7v7+j4 Thu May 29 13:12:45 2014 No.1740137

>>1739251
Why does every other study thread on /ic/ always feature some average-looking college-aged girl?

Seriously, it's so annoying seeing some KAWAII UGUUUU chick with a doll face, flat hair and unimpressive proportions all the time. Does /ic/ do it as some kind of waifu thing?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 13:26:35 2014 No.1740153 Yo, what kind of stupid fucking board is this? Damn omegle anon, you lame.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 13:28:10 2014 No.1740155 >>1740153 sorry for disconnecting i accidentally esc'd twice.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 13:33:01 2014 No.1740163 >>1740080 In your description, no that's probably ok to do. You'll probably get away with it, but that looks like the artist stole from katsura masakazu.

Anonymous Thu May 29 13:47:50 2014 No.1740172

ok tablet issue

to describe my problem:

Tablet is fully functional except, when I drag the cursor to the bottom of the screen, the cursor will JUMP to the very top.... if i knew how to make a webm I'd show you...

ill probably ask /g/ too, but they won't know.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 13:58:08 2014 No.1740177 >>1740068 This board is a ghost town

Anonymous Thu May 29 14:03:13 2014 No.1740182

>>1740177
/ic/ - ghost town, dick noobs, best art community ever
/ic/ irc - circlejerk clique randum 4chan tumblr maymay xD
conceptart.org - fanboys become mods and drive the stars away, jason manbaby
permanoobs - a hero spread too thin, everybody tries to copy appleman, crash and burn
cghub - ded
wetcanvas - old people paint flowers and useless shit
crimsondaggers - shit tier gayme art and dan loservisi
livestreamapp - let's just suck the broadcasters dick for 3 hours

there is no community left

THERE IS NO COMMUNITY LEFT

THERE IS NO COMMUNITY LEFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 14:07:01 2014 No.1740185 >>1740182 Meh, my drawing sucks and wouldn't show them anyway

Anonymous Thu May 29 14:07:55 2014 No.1740186

>>1740182
You be the community, anon. Make that next big art site, where cool people gather, sketchbook is a plenty with helpful feed back, abundant with traditional as well as digital artists, people sharing resources, tutorials, brushes, where pros hang out, where clients get their artist for that next big project, and also where you can find cool asian artists that are usually hard to come by in another setting.

You are the change you want to be, anon.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 15:56:00 2014 No.1740233 How do you guys fasten your paper onto the drawing board? I have a drafting table but I've just been taping paper on to it and it gets kind of messy sometimes.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 16:16:03 2014 No.1740242 >>1740092 >>1740088 Thank you, it's good to know

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 16:17:06 2014 No.1740243 >>1740182 support the kickstarter for cghub 2,0 WHY THE FUCK CAN´T YOU GUYS DONATE FOR CGHUB 2.0!!!!!???

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 16:19:57 2014 No.1740248 >>1740243 >40k for a website top kek, support it yourself

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 16:27:16 2014 No.1740255 >>1740243 was cghub 1.0 even good? I had a feeling their site was less active than conceptart. And I don't understand why they need 40k. Just make a website like algen did...

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 17:12:59 2014 No.1740290 >>1740255 They don't need 40k, they're just using kikestarter as advertising and to build up "hype" for their piece of shit, because they know it won't become popular otherwise.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 18:09:35 2014 No.1740328 File: 17 KB, 300x218, 3208325391_1389d632e3_b-300x218.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1740290 https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/kirillchepizhko/next-generation-website-for-cg-artists only $45,000 raised XD!!!!!!

Anonymous Thu May 29 18:11:06 2014 No.1740330
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Can someone tell me what's wrong with my gif? I'm thinking of getting a tablet this weekend and I want to fix my mistakes before I make an investment.

Also, what tablets do you recommend for 2d animation? I have $120 to spend, I heard about wacom

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 18:13:06 2014 No.1740332 >>1740330 The problem with your gif is that her onee sama doesn't approve of it. Grab a wacom, bamboo/intous if you can, largest size you can find

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 18:23:19 2014 No.1740340 >>1740332 cool thanks!!

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 18:39:35 2014 No.1740361 >>1740330 Overlap the action next time. Not disparate motion segments.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 19:05:33 2014 No.1740370 >>1740330 Matoi isn't that curvy Her hair is not that big It's a shit anime

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 19:05:59 2014 No.1740372 >>1740361 ahh okay, her grip.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 19:08:31 2014 No.1740373 >>1740370 yea I'm way off model

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 19:24:54 2014 No.1740375 What are some good books for character design?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 19:32:05 2014 No.1740376 What exercises can I do with tablet to get better?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 19:50:36 2014 No.1740385 >>1740376 Try drawing.

Anonymous Thu May 29 19:51:04 2014 No.1740386
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I don't see any reason to shit up the board with a new thread and didn't see anything else relevant, so I guess I'm posting here.

How's the perspective on the various people in this room look? I'd like to make sure that everyone is in proper places before going any further. I think the guys on the far left might need some tweaking, but I'm not sure.

if someone could redline any suggestions that'd be peachy.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 20:33:53 2014 No.1740401 >>1740386 The thread you're looking for is the draw thread Remember the best solution to a problem is usually the easiest, draw lines from the vp and check if it's correct

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 20:41:10 2014 No.1740406 File: 47 KB, 500x332, how-to-draw-scott-robertson-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what does /ic/ think of Scott Robertson's books?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 20:48:59 2014 No.1740407 >>1740406 I've heard many good things about that book. Going to grab it and his upcoming design books once they're out (next month, I believe).

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 21:54:15 2014 No.1740423 >>1740401 Alright thanks, guess I'll repost it there since it won't let me delete it.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 21:54:37 2014 No.1740424 File: 17 KB, 257x346, download.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] just bought this, did i make a good purchase?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 22:11:33 2014 No.1740432 What's a good way to practice perspective drawing? I think I understand it but at the same time I can't seem to apply it properly when the vanishing points are so far off canvas.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 22:49:46 2014 No.1740446 >>1740432 make a fuckwide canvas to facilitate your VPs then

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 22:50:59 2014 No.1740447 >>1740424 Yes you could do a lot worse. Some might harp on his style but it's only there to show the forms

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 22:53:17 2014 No.1740449 >>1740424 in the sticky it's considered an advanced book, but then again Marko learnt from Dynamic Figure Drawing at age 12-15 or something like that.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 23:20:56 2014 No.1740462 >>1739317 That would make it a study If its a study you can do whatever you need absorb the knowledge you are seeking Just mark it as a study and move on

Anonymous Thu May 29 23:27:38 2014 No.1740466

What books are worth getting for a guy that has some skill but no knowledge and little experience? My ultimate goal is to create ecchi including complex backgrounds and objects, but the harmony of the body is most important.

I already have "Figure Drawing" and "Drawing the Head and Hands" by Loomis, and I'm currently looking at "How to Draw" by Scott Robertson. Any other suggestions?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 23:30:42 2014 No.1740468 >>1740466 Perspective made easy by Norling

Anonymous Thu May 29 23:50:04 2014 No.1740473

How do I into cartoons?
I've been working my way through loomis and a few other fundamental books over the past couple years, getting a feel for anatomy and form, but now I'm feeling everything fall apart when I try and work an expression in, either via actual body and facial language or just through expressive rendering.
Whenever I try and be expressive or spontaneous it just looks stilted and awkward instead. I'm pretty jealous of the webcomic Zoophobia's style, for example. And in a way, more toony-looking art, plague-like as the Disney crossover fanart fad is right now..

A saw a ctrl+paint vid that suggested doing studies of western cartoons to better understand simplification and exaggeration, and I'll get on that, but are there any books or other introductory resources I could look into as well to stop my work being so bland?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 00:04:02 2014 No.1740476 is keenspot still a thing?

Anonymous Fri May 30 00:13:58 2014 No.1740483
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>>1739251

Tonight i made a strange dream: the world is in some kind of post-aphocalictic disaster, i find myself at a low floor of a tall building at night, probably an old hospital, who has been arranged as a the place to live for a quite large group of people, solar panels on the roof provide electricity.
I take the elevator to an upper floor, when i get out a man welcome me, he was waiting for my arrival, he is shaked, something will soon appen; he orders a technician to turn off the power on the other floors, seems like this night we need it all for us. Now, the only light sources are the reflex of the spotlights that guards are using outside through the glass wall, and the door of an illuminated room in the end of an alley.
The man tells distractly about how his management helped to improve the quality of the sojourn in this place while guides me there, i don't listen to him. He opens the door and lets me in.
The bright light blinds me for a second; a group of familiar people turn in my direction, they are all set down facing a point of the room from which comes the slow, regoular sound of a machine for the measure of the heart-rate.
They are all serious, cordially salute me, someone stands up and give me a path on the back, nobody tells me why i am there, and however i'm not interested in listening it from them since i'm about to discover it anyway.
They peacefully return to their positions, and i mimic them.
Now we are all whatcing at an hospital bed in which figure is higly covered with a blanket.
I do some steps towards it.
Even if i can only see the head, i can tell the figure is no bigger than a baby, and, as easily, i can tell it isn't a baby, due to the old, emaciated aspect of the head.
CONTINUE...

Anonymous Fri May 30 00:15:39 2014 No.1740487
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>>1740483
I look closely. Finally i recognize the patient: I'm in front of what remains of Vilppu.
The throat cancer advanced dramatically since the last time i saw him.
I'm shaked, the sadness fills my heart while i think about how i remembered him, from his '70 vintage tapes, as a young, libertine, virile and slighly ambiguous artist with sideboards and the obligatory magnum PI moustache, who first drew and seduced the oldish but fit models on air and then, in the backstage, i always imagined, made them know love as if it was the first time.
His eyes are open, he is weak but notice my presence. Obviously he can't talk. Despite the situation, he doesn't seem to be melanconic, on the contrary, by the moment he sees me, a light to the eyes seems to bright his face. He is particularly pleased to see me; strange, because by logic he shouldn't even know how I am. Hell, i'm not even one of his biggest fans, and not even close to being a decent artist!
At this moment two other figures that i didn't notice before, who has been stayed quiet since i came, move from a corner of the room to the bed, discussing animatedly. I learn that one is the doctor, the other the publisher of the comic series Vilppu's was drawing before the illness made it impossible for him to continue. Vilppu has a contract with the publisher and still has to end the story. Until recently, despite being unable to draw with it's hands, Vilppu managed to do it with the use of the only thing he had a decent control on: his incisors teeth. Using an orthodontic device with a pencil glued to the teeths.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 00:18:53 2014 No.1740488 >>1740483 >>1740487 mate wat

Anonymous Fri May 30 00:23:44 2014 No.1740493
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>>1740487
CONTINUATION:
But now his teeths have fallen off and the doctor, despite trying, didn't found a way to permit vilppu drawing. He removes another failed device from the mouth of the old man, shaking his head reseigned while the other man yells at his incompetence.
I, outraged but unable to interfere with the contracts rules, watch as Vilppu is still there, with placid looks, not saying a word nor making any resistance.
The doctor says he can't do anything, leaving the room, followed by the by now furious publisher.
Quiet reigns again in the room. Seems like an epoch has came to an end.
Then he moves. He is determined in jumping out of the bed. Before i can think anything, he's already supine on the floor, semi-nude. To my big surprise, but not fear, i see how the illness really took all his body, deforming heavily every part , and not only making the head smaller. The torso is now proportioned to the little bald head, and all his limbs are now smaller, and visibly weaker.
He watches me, and outlines a smile, like if he is making some irony: "yes, that's what i am now, years passes for everybody, didn't you know?"
I feel the impulse to fondle, to hug him, so i tender my hand to him.
But at this moment i understand. To him, i represent his legacy, for decades he teached us how to feel, and now he want to tend on to us everything he still have left: he curls up one my hand like a cat on a ball of wool, thanks to the little dimension he manages to do it perfectly, and for the first time i undertsand, and, as intended by the great master, once for all, i feel the pose.
Thanks Vilppu, even if i will never understand how to draw naked sexy girls, you definitely make me do cool dreams.

I don't even know what should i ask. 4 you Is it normal to dream this shit or just an effect of the antidepressants?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 05:53:20 2014 No.1740579 >>1739807 I have the same or similar question about drawing from life, I think. When I construct 3D objects they don`t feel true to life, when I draw what I see I don't construct my drawings.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 06:30:36 2014 No.1740585 I'm trying to paint a night scene and the colors I'm choosing don't look right. Can somebody lead me to the right direction?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 06:35:45 2014 No.1740589 >>1740585 Take a photo. Find a reference. Take movie screenshots. It's more about the values, rather than colors.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 06:52:39 2014 No.1740601 How heal chicken scratch? How learn to use the should instead of the hand?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 06:54:56 2014 No.1740603 >>1740601 *shoulder

Anonymous Fri May 30 07:21:10 2014 No.1740609

>>1740601
Buy some chicken scratch pills at your nearest art clinic.

But honestly, it just requires discipline and confidence. Force yourself to make confident lines, and from your shoulder. It's all in the head. Then, draw and draw. It's not hard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgDNDOKnArk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFVggG7ajXM

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 08:48:35 2014 No.1740660 >>1740601 Blind contour drawings, without lifting your pencil, help a lot. Also drawing on some huge ass paper will force you to learn to draw from your shoulder.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 08:49:40 2014 No.1740661 >>1740660 >Blind contour drawings ahahahahaha. The most useless drawing exercise ever.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 08:52:47 2014 No.1740662 >>1740661 Post some drawings then, faggot.

Anonymous Fri May 30 09:10:57 2014 No.1740666

>>1740661
Chicken scratch comes from a fear of limited hand coordination, either you can accept your current level of hand coordination by loosening up with blind contours or grind dynamic sketch exercises until you meet your expectations. Both lead to the same end.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 09:45:06 2014 No.1740685 When you draw from life, do you use construction? Or do you do it just using observation?

Anonymous Fri May 30 09:50:02 2014 No.1740688

>>1740666
>>1740660

He needs to understand that drawing the same line a couple of times is fine when sketching, and then putting in the correct one stronger, but that trying to draw the perfect line first time, in lots of itty bitty chunks, is not a good thing.

I also think blind contour drawings are pretty useless, but by all means do a couple. I found drawing things from observation in a single line more useful; having the pen on the paper all the way through the drawing.

>>1740685
Even when doing observation, you should be doing the construction in your head. If you're not able to do that just yet, then do some faint construction on the paper first.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 10:36:21 2014 No.1740722 >>1739251 How in the fuck Do I draw an oval shaped cyllinder in perspective? it sounds like a stupid question, but just go find one and try.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 10:49:41 2014 No.1740727 File: 7 KB, 241x200, question.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] In what order do you draw a human head? First Eyes, mouth , nose and then head shape? or the other way around?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 11:08:15 2014 No.1740730 >>1740727 There are no rules about this, but I start with the head (so I'll be able to know where to 'place' features correctly), then the nose, eyes, and finally the mouth.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 11:09:02 2014 No.1740732 >>1740722 How do you draw any organic shape in perspective? Not everything can be done with construction lines, you just have to practice.

Anonymous Fri May 30 15:25:47 2014 No.1740862

>>1740727
Wherever you feel will help you draw it in proportion better
Say you want to sculpt something, you decide where the best place to start is by figuring how well it will stand up and help you sculpt the rest

There are no parts to the head, it's just
the head
Think of it as one shape

Anonymous Fri May 30 16:09:18 2014 No.1740894
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>>1740727
Everybody goes about it differently, but if say, you're drawing a portrait. You want to spend time measuring and constructing.

Make a light or mental tilt line, it's your gestural guide for the placement/tilt of the head. Best to start with finding your center and measuring to find the contours, common denominators. There are a lot of ways of going about it. Nose is usually the most centered placement of the face. Check out Kevin Chen and Hampton's demonstrations to see how they divvy up the proportions. This immensely helped me and a lot of other people. Of course I try to take measurements first. Hampton actually has a great section about the hierarchy of the face.

The face is 2 major parts.
-[1/2 = top of brow to bottom forming plane of nose]
-[2/2 = bottom of nose to bottom of chin/mandible]
--Bottom part of face is 3 major parts. [1/3 = bottom of nose to mouth opening] [2/3 = opening of mouth to top of chin formation][3/3 top of chin to bottom of chin/mandible]

The head itself you can just use the loomis construction methods or carefully measure on your own, with observation, common or reoccurring sizing and important landmarks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hakaoQ9L1RM

Sorry for yapping too much. I included a picture, using a hampton chart I found online. I also added in orange bars to show the top of the forehead landmark in relation to the face.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 16:50:41 2014 No.1740919 Anyone know/can measure the diameter of a crow quill?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 17:28:28 2014 No.1740948 i dont any imaginations. should i even bother learning to draw

Anonymous Fri May 30 19:43:27 2014 No.1740993

>>1740948
Your lack of will to even write this question properly is much bigger problem than "lack" of imagination.
Only if you can work hard then you can develop imagination needed to draw creative and beautiful artwork.

But I still don't know should you bother with learning how to draw: finding job in this field is extremely hard, and drawing is not that great hobby - if you have any taste, then you'll be seeing your artwork as something disgusting (especially at the beginning).

tldr: if you're looking for hobby: play vidya;
if you're looking for job: you're stupid.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 20:06:45 2014 No.1741004 Is there any way to make an 8-bit bmp image without photoshop or gimp? I just want to make textures for Sai.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 31 00:27:28 2014 No.1741126 Recycling: does newsprint go in the newspaper bag, or the mixed paper bag? Asking the important questions.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 31 01:06:29 2014 No.1741147 Any advice on drawing figures in perspective?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 31 02:11:42 2014 No.1741177 >>1741147 Become adept at drawing boxes in perspective. Then familiarize yourself with the idealized proportions of the body. Finally, learn how to construct the body from boxes. IIRC there are a few vague examples of this in both Loomis and Bridgman.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 31 04:04:37 2014 No.1741237 File: 38 KB, 880x1168, fezzylookin.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What does /ic/ have to say about pixel art? I'm currently without a tablet pen, but still feel like producing something.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 31 04:15:51 2014 No.1741239 >>1741237 that piece is gorgeous i think it's a great style for indie video gamess

>>	Anonymous Sat May 31 05:42:03 2014 No.1741258 >>1741237 Very nice. How exactly do you go about creating pixel art? Is there a specific program to use?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 31 07:05:27 2014 No.1741267 >>1741258 Mostly GraphicsGale, GrafX2 and Pro Motion.Sometimes Photoshop and MSPaint. Pyxeledit is what I use. Pixelart has a lot with stylization, clusters and colour theory it seems.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 31 08:03:31 2014 No.1741279 >>1741237 Implying one cant do digital painting without a tablet. Very nice and imaginative piece though.

Anonymous Sat May 31 08:12:37 2014 No.1741283

>>1739251
Does anyone knows why is Sketchbook Pro 6.2.4 lagging in my computer? I got a new laptop that is kinda similar to my old one and it didn't lag before, but now it's just terrible and impossible to work with. I'm using Windows 7 and a HUION pen tablet.

>>1741237
I used to create things like the pic you attached when I was without a tablet, it's cool and I think it looks awesome when well done.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 31 08:37:33 2014 No.1741288 >>1741283 there was some fixes for a lagging intuos in photoshop. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_BYCcX0CuM may help.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 31 08:42:41 2014 No.1741290 >>1741237 I go crazy trying to pixel without a stylus, but you can get by with a mouse, or even a trackpad, if you're desperate. Are you Mrmo, or just a fan?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 31 08:49:02 2014 No.1741292 >>1741290 But the mouse is so much more accurate than a tablet stylus in my experience. Using a stylus seems impractical to me when doing small sprites. Could you show some of your work?

Anonymous Sat May 31 09:03:08 2014 No.1741296

>>1739251
>I'M GONNA GO OUTSIDE
>I'M GONNA TAKE MY PIGMENT LINERS AND GONNA DRAW SOME PERSPECTIVE AND LANDSCAPE SKETCHES OF ANYTHING INTERESTING THAT I FIND. I'VE ALREADY LOOKED AT EXAMPLES, AND READ BOOKS, I KNOW HOW TO DO IT!!!!
>Go outside.
>It's hot.
>Allergy.
>Cars.
>What if people see my drawing?
>I DON'T WANT THEM TO SEE!
>PEOPEL EVERYWHERE, NOWHERE TO DRAW.
>Go home.
>FML
>I'm a weak-willed piece of shit who'll never be good at anything.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 31 09:06:26 2014 No.1741298 File: 45 KB, 500x484, feelsbad.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1741296 I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels these feels

>>	Anonymous Sat May 31 09:08:44 2014 No.1741300 >>1741296 Every fucking time. I did get comfortable with drawing on public transport.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 31 09:39:47 2014 No.1741307 >>1740579 Guy you quoted here, that's my problem, too! Anyone with any help?

Anonymous Sat May 31 11:02:29 2014 No.1741342

>>1741300
Yeah, I don't know what's up with my drawing phenomenon, I'm really insecure about it. Normally I couldn't give a fuck what people think, and in no way am I afraid of the public.

But, when it comes to drawing I just get paralyzed at the thought of someone else seeing it, especially strangers. I know that 90% of them won't even look, and nobody especially is going to say anything, nobody is going to think anything, everyone will just walk by... But, it's still hard for some reason, you just get a very powerful feeling of uneasiness.

Anonymous Sat May 31 11:26:25 2014 No.1741368

>>1741296
i actually am similar

i have access to a car, and i want to paint sweeping landscapes and rolling hills like muh tehmeh. But when I go outside i only end up drawing the big tree in front of my house, and i start BSODing like a computer trying to draw the leaves.

I hate it =[

Anonymous Sat May 31 11:39:41 2014 No.1741382

I finally learned face construction. Two questions:

1. How I break same-face syndrome? I tried to pick different races, old/young people reference but they still look like shit. My men always look like a 40 y/o man.
2. From all face elements, the only one which isn't decent is the eyes. Why I keep drawing them so big or bad/less detailed than the rest?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 31 11:40:50 2014 No.1741383 Why are all of you such pieces of shit? Why would I follow any of the advice given here when all of it comes from anonymous posters who claim to know what they're talking about but whenever someone posts work it's absolute garbage?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 31 11:42:10 2014 No.1741386 is cardstock good to use with alcohol markers? if so which ones

>>	Anonymous Sat May 31 11:43:38 2014 No.1741389 >>1739251 How do you become a gallery artist?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 31 11:44:06 2014 No.1741390 Why would I follow any of the advice given here when all of it comes from anonymous posters who claim to know what they're talking about but whenever someone posts work it's absolute garbage?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 31 11:45:55 2014 No.1741392 File: 15 KB, 1480x317, cap.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1741383 >>1741390 I dunno man, you tell me.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 31 11:46:47 2014 No.1741394 >>1741390 because supposedly you'd be asking the question, no one is telling you to follow this advice

>>	Anonymous Sat May 31 11:55:40 2014 No.1741400 This place is toxic. I wish I had never come back here.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 31 12:02:02 2014 No.1741404 >>1741400 Then go?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 31 12:12:39 2014 No.1741414 >>1741400 Did someone shit on your art? It happens. It happens to me all the time, just move on.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 31 13:01:52 2014 No.1741455 File: 506 KB, 1440x2221, UltimateSpider-Man10_009.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How I become a comic artist of this level? Pic related.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 31 13:11:40 2014 No.1741470 File: 920 KB, 500x281, 1390743422603.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1741455 >black spider-man

>>	Anonymous Sat May 31 13:12:59 2014 No.1741473 >>1741470 Kek, I've been looking for that gif

>>	Anonymous Sat May 31 13:20:36 2014 No.1741479 >>1741455 become gay and develop a latex fetish the rest will do itself.

Anonymous Sat May 31 13:21:58 2014 No.1741480

>>1739251
I don't understand how I'm supposed to progress. I've tried countless time the first exercise: http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-draw-learn

I've tried with multiple times with different pictures. Everything is always wrong, I can't copy a damn block, ball or even triangle without the angles being all wrong.

Any suggestions outside of "stop trying to draw"? Thank you.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 31 13:38:45 2014 No.1741483 how do I find picture of women to draw? just go on internet and look at dirty pictures of women to draw? how do I know which is gud picture?

Anonymous Sat May 31 14:00:03 2014 No.1741488

>>1741480
The first exercise? You'll overcome this problem with time dude, the best way to overcome this is to draw from life, do what books like drawing on the right side of the brain and loomis tell you etc but most importantly don't feel bad when it doesn't come out how you wanted it to.

Basically draw a lot, a heck of a lot, until you understand the fundamentals inside and out

Anonymous Sat May 31 14:05:24 2014 No.1741489

>>1741296
Hah, I've gone through a similiar experience. I went out to draw, found a nice place, got my sketchbook and pen out, and by the end of it I was just drawing random characters from imagination; didn't bother looking at things at all, I was drawing as if I was in my room... Got a little disppointed by it, I got intimidated and didn't even try.

Basic Anatomy Tutorials An Aspiring Cartoonist Sat May 31 14:05:33 2014 No.1741490

Hello gents I am very curious as to where I could find tutorials on how to begin on improving my drawn anatomy

I have no method for laying down a characters structure so when I attempt to draw somebody it rarely works

Thank you so much in advance

Anonymous Sat May 31 14:15:25 2014 No.1741497

>>1741483
>how do I know which is gud picture?
Yes. In all seriousness though, none. Unless your goal as an artist is to copy photos of sexy women, then none.
If you want to learn gesture then do gesture drawings. If when you try to illustrate your gestures and they look off then learn anatomy.
If when your anatomy looks off then learn how to add tone to form and how to colour form.
If you can do all these things and yet everything still looks off, you're drawing a guy, why are you drawing a guy.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 31 14:27:03 2014 No.1741502 >>1741490 Is this the /ic/ humour thread? it feels like the /ic/ humour thread. read the sticky, try googling it

Anonymous Sat May 31 14:39:16 2014 No.1741507

>>1739251

who makes more dosh , on rough average... and after, say 3 years of focused self-teaching: freelance GD, or freelance illustrator/CA?

please no bullshit replies like "the talented one" etc. plz give me something substantial, something useful.

reason i ask is i browse GD alot, and those guys are insanely bitter and depressed about their ultralow income situation

>>	Anonymous Sat May 31 15:38:02 2014 No.1741553 >>1741497 I do not understand what you said but I do not want to draw man. or gesture. I just want to draw pin up womens.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 31 17:37:27 2014 No.1741633 >>1740919 Bump.

Anonymous Sat May 31 23:28:13 2014 No.1741771
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Anyone know how I would go about trying to draw transformers?
All the circuits and gears and mechanical parts that make them up, I wouldn't even know where to start. They feel like something you could easily botch if you just started throwing car parts into places without rhyme or reason.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 31 23:42:50 2014 No.1741774 >>1741771 I recommend Christopher Hart

Anonymous Sat May 31 23:47:14 2014 No.1741778

>>1741771
Look up real life robots, from mechanical factory machines to university projects. Look up car components, truck components, engines, etc

Fill your visual library up with all this imagery and then do it, as many times as you can until you feel like its alright.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 01:20:51 2014 No.1741794 can you refill a pentel brush pen with waterproof india ink or will it clogged it?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 01:58:06 2014 No.1741808 How does one learn to draw clothes? I get how to practice figure drawing but I don't understand how one can just learn to draw clothes, specially from imagination.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 01:59:28 2014 No.1741810 >>1741455 but that's terrible art (also a terrible comic)

Anonymous Sun Jun 1 02:00:36 2014 No.1741811

>>1739251
I've been drawing casually for awhile, but i don't feel i'm making any good progress. I've drawn on my own and its usually nothing good, but when i draw with a ref it comes out alright. I have tried loomis and vlippu but i just don't seem to get it. I just can't wrap my head around it. Should i just get back to reading? I think my problem is that its just too slow for me. Also, when did you "discover" or "develop" your style? I'm still waiting to find mine. I've tried looking at artists i like and emulating it, but i still can't get it to come naturally for me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 02:08:40 2014 No.1741813 >>1739251 how the hell does painting work? Coloring in general i guess, but i always see people painting by putting down one color and then going over it over and over again with new colours. I just can't grasp it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 02:12:52 2014 No.1741815 >>1741810 I dunno bro those backgrounds are pretty god-tier

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 02:24:41 2014 No.1741818 File: 106 KB, 383x426, 1401555712301.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1741815

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 02:46:36 2014 No.1741829 How do text in perspective?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 02:49:56 2014 No.1741830 Text>Select>Free Transform>Perspective

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 02:58:23 2014 No.1741835 >>1741830 Not digital text though. Like, drawing text. Is there really no way?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 03:01:34 2014 No.1741836 >>1741835 Horizon line>Perspective lines>Grids in perspective>Write in text Text>Select>Free Transform>Perspective>Trace

Anonymous Sun Jun 1 03:03:39 2014 No.1741838
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>>1741835
Do you know how to space things in perspective like pic related?

Try that so you can divide where the text goes in "equal" spaces for the letters, and then half arse the rest of it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 03:33:24 2014 No.1741844 >>1741836 Not sure what exactly this is, but I'll test it later >>1741838 That makes sense.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 04:15:15 2014 No.1741856 beginner here - just finished "keys to drawing" and thought i'd look into robertson's and norling's perspective books and do some life/gesture drawing. but all ateliers round here just closed for the summer so are there any good substitutes for croquis?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 05:42:50 2014 No.1741880 I always digitally line with default hard brush at 100% Opacity and Flow. I assume you guys consider it a pleb tier method so I'm wondering what alternatives I can do for a more versatile brush strokes.

Anonymous Sun Jun 1 05:47:36 2014 No.1741885
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Anyone have that paint tool sai tutorial of how to paint skin with a fat girl and a skinny girl hugging each other? I can't find this tuto anywhere. Pic related I remember the drawing composition in the tutorial. Thanks in advance.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 05:49:37 2014 No.1741888 >>1741885 http://imgur.com/mxZSWTg

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 05:58:54 2014 No.1741892 >>1741888 Love ya, trips anon. Have a nice day.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 09:10:24 2014 No.1742030 >>1741808 Michael Hampton- Figure Drawing - Design and Invention.pdf you can find that online free, theres a chapter at the end on like folds in clothes. may be of some use. unless youre asking how to become fashion designer. da may have tuts also

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 10:14:34 2014 No.1742117 I can manage to spare a couple hours a day, what are the best exercises you think I should do to maximize efficiency?

Anonymous Sun Jun 1 12:11:22 2014 No.1742201

>>1739251
How does one develop a confidence in their own work, it's not skill as I had initially thought seeing as I've seen some incredible artists get angry with their work and quit, yet some incredibly shit artists open websites and go to cons for commissions. What is the secret to gaining confidence?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 12:48:15 2014 No.1742226 >>1742201 Make at least one piece that you're proud of, and wouldn't change anything about. Compare your current body of work to where you were a year ago, two years ago, etc.

Anonymous Sun Jun 1 12:53:34 2014 No.1742228

>>1741813
Paint some still lifes. Watch demos by skilled artists (step-by-steps also work).

Learn how light and color work, as well as some color theory. Check these out for starters:
http://androidarts.com/art_tut.htm
http://www.huevaluechroma.com/
Color and Light by James Gurney

>i always see people painting by putting down one color and then going over it over and over again with new colours
Chances are they're working general to specific, which you should be doing as well.

Anonymous Sun Jun 1 12:57:37 2014 No.1742229

>>1741811
Chances are you aren't constructing and thinking about forms enough when you're drawing from refs. I'd focus primarily on drawing from life, and to draw through forms, and to construct complex forms from basic forms. Use 2D shapes and analyses to check that you have positions of landmarks correct, but not to do the whole drawing for you.

I recall tehmeh mentioning an exercise when drawing from photos is to use a ref to create a stick figure of the pose, hide the ref, then draw the rest of the figure. When you're done, look back at the ref and see where you went wrong, and correct as needed. Take notes too so that those points stick.

Anonymous Sun Jun 1 12:59:44 2014 No.1742231

>>1741811
>>1742229
>I've been drawing casually for awhile

Just noticed that. What do you mean by casually? How many hours a day? Are you pushing yourself outside of your comfort zone? Are you actively thinking about what you're doing and why?

It takes a ton of hard work to see progress - if you aren't putting the effort in then you shouldn't be expecting progress at an appreciable rate.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 13:14:03 2014 No.1742236 File: 405 KB, 480x800, Screenshot_2014-01-19-20-08-40.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1740233 Anyone

Anonymous Sun Jun 1 13:26:44 2014 No.1742243

>>1742226
>make at least one piece you're proud of

I don't think that'll work going in with that mentality. Basically that confidence would be just about the only reason if ever consider going to a art school. It seems that even when the student are absolute garbage they still have a confidence like no other. Sometimes it works against them and they think they are so good they are beyond critique.

Anonymous Sun Jun 1 15:45:43 2014 No.1742388

I've got a amazon gift coupon for my birthay, it is quite a lot money and I was wondering if you have any book suggestions for someone who is interested in storyboards and animation. I already have the "The Animator's Survival Kit" on my list, but I'm open for your ideas! Also, are the Disney/Pixar "The Art of..." books worth their money? What do they contain?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 16:58:44 2014 No.1742480 >>1740182 >THERE IS NO COMMUNITY LEFT But there's always deviantart. DA is love. DA is life.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 18:39:32 2014 No.1742574 >>1740919 Bump. >>1741794 Would also like to know this.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 18:50:40 2014 No.1742581 If you were making a portfolio for somewhere like cartoon network or nick what would you focus on? showing understanind of anatomy/lots of life drawing or more cartoonish stuff/imaginative pieces is fanart even ok to put in there?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 18:57:59 2014 No.1742593 >>1742581 Don't know about fanart but yeah lots of cartoonish things. If you want to show anatomy and life drawings I'd say keep them to a minimum, consider what they'd like to see.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 19:11:32 2014 No.1742612 >>1740449 Is that book good for begginers?

>>	Sage Sun Jun 1 19:18:59 2014 No.1742616 >>1741818 I'm not him, but i prefer this to most classic western superhero styles: they usually go too much for realism sacrificing stylizations of gesture and expressions, one of the reason manga took over in my opinion

Anonymous Sun Jun 1 19:20:39 2014 No.1742617

>>1742231
>>1742229
i've been trying to draw every day and so far i've filled out 2 sketch books and working on a third, but its mostly just 1 page a day (and its a small sketch book, like the size of an average novel). Recently i kind of slowed down and missed a few days for one reason or the other, but i did take a drawing class that really didn't help me at all beside giving me access to materials to use and bigger assignments to do. I don't know how to push myself "out of my comfort zone" because i don't know where it is yet. I'm not good at anything, really, so i guess everything is out of my comfort zone. I can think about something really cool in my head but once i turn to the paper it just falls apart.

Also, that exercise sounds neat, i'll give it a try. I have probelms just drawing basic shapes though, i always fuck it up somehow.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 19:21:41 2014 No.1742618 >>1742228 okay, thanks! I'll give these a look.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 19:25:10 2014 No.1742621 File: 1.37 MB, 2448x2448, 2014-05-31 23.09.39-2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do you draw hair/make it so you don't get bored of drawing hair a few minutes into it?

>>	Sage Sun Jun 1 19:27:48 2014 No.1742624 >>1742236 I'm not even remotely good, but can't you show anything? I don't promise someone won't laugh. Anyway maybe it's too soon to try to sketch every good idea, without enough skills it would probably get out like crap and frustate you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 19:38:46 2014 No.1742629 >>1742236 Just gone of those clip things. They're called board clips.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 19:40:16 2014 No.1742632 File: 482 KB, 1365x1586, 1390267711314.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what's the best program to use for animation? (Not Flash)

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 20:01:54 2014 No.1742648 >>1742632 TVpaint is pretty sweet!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 20:24:28 2014 No.1742678 >>1742648 This is probably the next best program for animation seeing as it's about as close as you're going to get to drawing straight on paper. Flash is still a ton easier to use in the long run, but TVP will look a lot nicer.

Anonymous Sun Jun 1 20:28:47 2014 No.1742683

>>1742617
>Also, that exercise sounds neat, i'll give it a try. I have probelms just drawing basic shapes though, i always fuck it up somehow.
In that case, that'll be the first area you should tackle: basic forms and perspective. When drawing forms, everything else builds on top of that knowledge, so the sooner you become adept at it the better off you'll be. Norling's Perspective Made Easy has most of what you'll need on that topic, but there are plenty of great resources on perspective that you could look into. Ignore complex forms until you can do the basic forms.

If you have trouble copying 2D shapes as well, I'd look into something like Bargue plates before diving into perspective. There's a book (Bargue and Gerome Drawing Course IIRC) that includes a lot of plates, and what you should be focusing on. Drawing Made Easy by Lutz also covers what's essentially the same approach.

Chances are you aren't seeing improvement because you're tackling too complex of a subject matter before grasping the prerequisites. For everything you make and everything you learn, work general to specific. If you're ever stuck, focus your studies on the most basic component of the area you're struggling with and work your way up from there. [Ex: if you're struggling with color, try working with a limited 'monochromatic' palette focusing on change in color temperature; if you struggle with that then focus on value, etc]

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 20:29:53 2014 No.1742686 >>1742621 Google 'Gurney Ribbon Technique' and read the blog post that comes up. I'd also look into Proko's two videos on youtube on drawing hair. The video on basic forms is also worth a look.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 20:40:52 2014 No.1742698 File: 3.10 MB, 264x240, 2c1.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1739251 >use Sai all time >try photoshop >5 minutes later "scratch disk is full" >25gb is gone This is ridiculous! What's wrong with photoshit?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 20:46:12 2014 No.1742704 Is there really a necessity to have 50 sketchbooks full of drawings? Filling them by drawing mindlessly?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 20:49:51 2014 No.1742709 How one goes on learning how to draw by books? Do I draw everything on the book? Just read and try to absorb as much as possible?

>>	Sage Sun Jun 1 20:51:33 2014 No.1742712 >>1742709 Eat it, you'll absorb faster

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 20:59:23 2014 No.1742721 >>1742712 I tried once as kid. I didn't like it.

Sage Sun Jun 1 21:04:08 2014 No.1742723

>>1742721

No but seriously, i'm at the foundamentals but in general the book teaches a tecnique and you have to apply it drawing from reference until you feel comfortable with it.
Much like studying and solving math problems, but here the theory is much easier and the practice needs more time

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 21:08:03 2014 No.1742727 Dumb question, is figure drawing the way to practice/learn drawing? Don't you get stuck into only being able to draw that? The commitment is scary..

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 22:06:28 2014 No.1742758 File: 133 KB, 824x464, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do i shade using ink, /ic/?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 23:04:10 2014 No.1742789 >>1742704 >Is there really a necessity to have 50 sketchbooks full of drawings? Depends. >Filling them by drawing mindlessly? That's a surefire way to not improve at all. If you aren't thinking you aren't learning.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 23:08:30 2014 No.1742791 >>1742727 figure drawing is just used to learn the figure. there are all sorts of exercises for learning how to draw other than figure drawing.

Anonymous Sun Jun 1 23:09:15 2014 No.1742792

>>1742727
>is figure drawing the way to practice/learn drawing?
You can practice all the foundational skills through figure drawing. Given that figures are extremely difficult to draw well, and how useful it is to be able to draw the figure, a lot of artists practice it. That being said, you can technically learn to draw without ever drawing a figure, you'll just have some catching up to do if you ever want to draw them in the future.

>Don't you get stuck into only being able to draw that?
If you're doing it correctly, you'll be building your foundational skills that will allow you to draw many things with a little bit of study/research.

>The commitment is scary
There's no commitment. You can do figure drawings in conjunction with whatever else you want to do (and you should). Nobody in their right mind would advise you to only draw the figure.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 23:35:00 2014 No.1742802 >>1742758 >draw shadow map >fill in shadow map with ink...

Anonymous Sun Jun 1 23:41:44 2014 No.1742805
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>>1742758
cross-hatching, right?
and pointillism. mango artists I know use this film they cut out and lay on their pictures to achieve that weird effect you see on comics sometimes. study miuras later stuff and stuff like vagabond to see how the japs do it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 2 06:03:10 2014 No.1742966 File: 97 KB, 241x292, construction.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How I memorize a process? I need to memorize how to construct a face using this method (which is for me easier than loomis). By doing it a lot?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 2 06:06:12 2014 No.1742967 >>1742966 by doing it a lot and applying what you learned.

Anonymous Mon Jun 2 08:57:48 2014 No.1743026
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Please someone explain how can I stop my lines from doing this, it makes it impossible for me to paint anything after finishing some linework. I just got a tablet so I have no idea how to deal with any of these digital painting glitches....

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 2 08:59:33 2014 No.1743031 >>1743026 I have tried turning all options off in the brush settings panel, but no help, and I really cant paint by pressing insanely hard on the tablet all the time...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 2 09:01:08 2014 No.1743033 >>1743026 turn opacity 100% turn off pen pressure for opacity.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 2 09:02:32 2014 No.1743034 Hi guys, I'm writing an essay. What do you call jobs like working at massive black or sixmorevodka?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 2 09:03:03 2014 No.1743036 >>1743026 It's not a glitch. If you want to paint with gray, select a gray color. If you use black and lower the opacity, it's going to slowly stack like that until it becomes black.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 2 09:12:02 2014 No.1743041 File: 197 KB, 1680x1050, Untitled.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1743033 Did you mean these? I`ve tried it already, any other suggestions please?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 2 09:15:24 2014 No.1743044 >>1743041 uninstall PS install MS5

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 2 09:28:21 2014 No.1743049 File: 2 KB, 32x33, hulhgsuc.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1743041 Hover your cursor over this icon just for a second.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 2 09:39:22 2014 No.1743054 File: 261 KB, 960x1280, tumblr_n06rq9UnvP1ronehbo1_1280.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Wht's the medium for this style? i see it everywhere lately

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 2 09:44:33 2014 No.1743056 >>1743054 watercolours?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 2 09:47:33 2014 No.1743057 File: 61 KB, 422x621, 0305.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Umm..it didn't seem like a hard question

Anonymous Mon Jun 2 09:52:33 2014 No.1743060

How do I start drawing from imagination? I've been studying for a couple years now, either from photos or from books. I can construct a decent looking figure, even an okay looking face, pretty landscapes, whatever, never a line-for-line copy, but the idea of doing something without a reference just stalls me. I daydream all day about cool picture ideas but have no idea where I'd start!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 2 09:53:10 2014 No.1743062 >>1743060 Practice. Duh.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 2 09:57:46 2014 No.1743064 >>1743060 are you me?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 2 09:58:42 2014 No.1743065 >>1743060 That's exactly why people should never take the advice of "learning the fundamentals".

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 2 10:17:03 2014 No.1743081 >>1743062 'Just draw without reference' sounds really easy in words! Reckon something like trying to genderswap reference poses might be a way of breaking into it? That way I wouldn't be able to directly compare to a photo...

Anonymous Mon Jun 2 10:21:14 2014 No.1743088

>>1743060
You've been studying for a couple years without drawing anything from imagination? You dream of cool things to draw but you don't just go and try to do it?

Why?

Just do it and you'll get better. Just like you got better with fundamentals by doing them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 2 10:26:03 2014 No.1743092 >>1743054 http://noelbadgespugh.tumblr.com/post/75413729802/tools-pentel-graphgear-mechanical-pencil-to

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 2 10:30:16 2014 No.1743094 >>1743088 There's a weird feeling and a feeble excuse at play in my head that I'm not good enough to do them justice yet, but you're right, it's not exactly logical.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 2 10:46:31 2014 No.1743108 File: 14 KB, 250x250, 1319945613521.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1743094 I know that feeling, and I think it's a bigger problem than skill related limitations. If you find a solution to self doubt and hesitation, you let me know.

Anonymous Mon Jun 2 10:58:28 2014 No.1743112

>>1743108
man you guys are overthinking it way too much. lots of artists have different ways of drawing from imagination, some start with abstract shapes, some do thumbnails, etc just mess around and see what you can make. youll suck at it at first but the more you do it the better you will get.

Anonymous Mon Jun 2 11:16:16 2014 No.1743120

>>1743108
It sounds kinda corny, but I've found that playing just the right kind of audio while practising can help me keep going for way longer, which I guess will mean I'll get to a level I'm happier with sooner. If I just practice without preparing an environment there's a constant stream of words in my head telling me everything I'm doing is wrong and I ought to just give up and stop embarrassing myself.
However, if I play an audio-book, lecture or just a song with very catchy lyrics, it shuts that voice up, like feeding it a constant stream of words keeps the vocal part of your mind busy and lets you focus on the touchy-feely crap.
I managed to get like three hours of chewing through a perspective book that previously had me getting bored, depressed and easily distracted within half a hour because I was listening to Noam Chomsky talk about politics. I've noticed a similar occurrence when driving; during instrumental songs or albums my driving gets sloppy as fuck (I just got my license a couple weeks ago) whereas a song where you cannot ignore the vocals seems to make everything go smoother. So try that!

Anonymous Mon Jun 2 11:23:44 2014 No.1743124

hey /ic/

I've done quite a bit on figure drawing. I'm not the best or even good, but I like I have made quite some improvement

But when it comes to backgrounds I'm just stumped. What is your creative process? I don't want to stumble around like an idiot. Organic objects like plants are even worse for me.

Anonymous Mon Jun 2 11:30:06 2014 No.1743128

>>1743060
Start with a written blurb a paragraph at most. Then do thumbnails. Lots of them.
Let ideas come into and out of your mind freely and quickly/roughly sketch them out before the next one comes along no matter how inane it may seem.

Check out The Skillful Huntsman, its filled with thumbnails and and the thought process leading up to some decent "finished" work. Its also got a decent quality PDF out.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 2 17:03:18 2014 No.1743356 >>1743049 Sorry for late reply, was at work. That is exactly what I was looking for, guess I was looking for something less obvious.. Anyways, many many thanks anon!

Anonymous Mon Jun 2 17:05:44 2014 No.1743358
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Okay, so I JUST downloaded Photoshop.

Are they any videos any of you can recommend that I can watch? I'm really going to attempt at landscaping and drawings I did, I want to color them.

Also, is there a stabilizer tool similar to the one on SAI? Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 2 17:08:10 2014 No.1743359 >>1743358 >Are they any videos any of you can recommend that I can watch? The free library at ctrlpaint will have a bunch of videos that will teach you the tools. >Also, is there a stabilizer tool Nope

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 2 17:10:42 2014 No.1743363 >>1742966 Memorize the proportions for placing all the main landmarks - the rest is effectively connect the dots. Try out Vilppu, Hampton, etc for learning the proportions.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 2 17:16:33 2014 No.1743366 I have to decide between a TRIA Marker set or a drawing tablet. I'm a bit doubtful about the tablet, since it seems like cheating. I'm still learning how to draw anyways. Is there anyone that went from paper to digital that can share his experience?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 2 17:19:25 2014 No.1743368 File: 855 KB, 2560x1920, Peacock.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1743366 Also, pic related, my last work

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 2 17:30:23 2014 No.1743373 >>1743366 Why do you think digital art is cheating?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 2 17:33:52 2014 No.1743375 >>1743373 Because you already have any tool/color available, on paper you have to work harder to get the same results

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 2 17:37:28 2014 No.1743376 >>1743368 Oh man, we had these. The only thing that is missing is some unreadable kanji on the side of it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 2 17:39:27 2014 No.1743378 >>1743376 It's this bad?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 2 18:17:06 2014 No.1743399 >>1743378 I, no, sorry, I didn't meant it that way. I'm just nostalgic. I just told that it reminds me of those pictures.

Anonymous Mon Jun 2 18:45:11 2014 No.1743431

I took an art class in college, they started off with perspective and drawing boxes then we moved onto gestures then still life drawings. I'm not a complete beginner but I don't think I'm good at all or rather, I don't know what my starting level should be. We never made it into complex forms such as human forms (which is what I really want to draw).

What should I be doing right now /ic/? More gestures? I never really learned how to do a proper study (teacher hand holding) and I would also like to know how to start these.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 2 18:48:37 2014 No.1743434 >>1743431 POST SOME OF YOUR SHIT. But, seriously, post something, can't blind guess what you need.

Anonymous Mon Jun 2 18:53:45 2014 No.1743440
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>>1743434
Oh right. I posted here before and I forgot if I got advice or not because shortly after I had a packed schedule that involved going to school then work then sleep. But now I have free time for a hobby and I really like drawing. This is pretty much the only thing I took a picture of. Cow skull made with charcoal and eraser.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 2 20:00:49 2014 No.1743476 What brush settings are best for thin outlines?

Anonymous Mon Jun 2 21:50:32 2014 No.1743552

>>1743375
>you already have any tool/color available
As long as you're putting thought into what tool and what color to use where and when, then you'll be fine. Granted it's helpful to have experience working with real paints and mixing pigments, but it technically isn't a necessary step for most of your learning.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 2 21:53:50 2014 No.1743556 >>1743476 Small sized brushes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 2 22:05:19 2014 No.1743559 >>1742678 I was considering TVPaint but the bloated-ass files are really swaying me. People tell me I'll have to save multiple files then compile them to avoid all that bloat, but I seriously should not have to do that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 2 22:05:44 2014 No.1743560 Is this board only for critiquing drawings/paintings or does it include other artforms as well?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 2 22:10:18 2014 No.1743567 >>1743560 We occasionally have sculptures/sculpture threads. The board is for visual arts, not literature or performance art.

Anonymous Mon Jun 2 22:15:01 2014 No.1743569

>>1739251
anyone been headhunted as a freelancer?

I have a feeling some fuck is spamming my portfolio trying to broker jobs for me to collect a finders fee, he comes out of left field with a bizarre offer, is a failed artist himself posing as a creative director, doesn't appear to actually work in the industry.

thought I'd share, beware.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 2 22:15:59 2014 No.1743570 >>1743567 Oh alright then, though it would be cool if 4chan had a board specifically for critique though. Just filled with OC from all other boards.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 3 02:25:11 2014 No.1743797 how easy are wacom styluses to break? i've heard there's a magnet inside that can shatter if the stylus is dropped on a hard surface, and am always really paranoid about knocking mine off the desk or something. does anyone have any experience with this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 3 03:47:29 2014 No.1743832 >>1743797 Not really, my stylus fell a few times but nothing happened. Had my tablet for a long while. Even if it does break you can always buy a replacement, you know. Don't worry about it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 3 04:19:27 2014 No.1743843 What is love?

Anonymous Tue Jun 3 05:11:33 2014 No.1743866
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am i mentally challenged /ic/? i just can't into boxes; gesture drawing and spheres are pretty much decent, but when i arrive at the Vilppu's chapter about drawing cubes from imagination my brain just stops working. How the hell do you draw a car? Shouldn't it be much simpler than draw a body?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 3 05:13:49 2014 No.1743869 File: 1.05 MB, 1164x428, Immagine.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1743866 mistaken, here's the right image

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 3 05:22:53 2014 No.1743871 >>1743866 Get some of that Norling's Perspective Made Easy anon. Also try print out that pic and trace over it with a ruler and a black pen, you'll see how the lines of the boxes work.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 3 05:32:54 2014 No.1743875 File: 53 KB, 960x1080, Skull001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I've just started doing studies and I was wondering, does anyone have a good source on understanding values?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 3 05:38:15 2014 No.1743880 >>1743871 yeah i already read a similar book, these are basic notions i know since high school, but seems like i have to sculpt them in my brain with application. Btw i'll try to trace the construction of some image, thanks

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 3 05:39:34 2014 No.1743882 Dunno if question is already in thread, but where should I start with digital art? What programs, equipment are the essentials?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 3 05:52:52 2014 No.1743888 File: 599 KB, 1164x428, Immagine.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1743871 drawing dead things is boring

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 3 06:12:47 2014 No.1743897 File: 170 KB, 1500x1000, surface pro 3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Surface Pro, yay or nay?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 3 06:15:45 2014 No.1743899 >>1743897 why

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 3 06:27:46 2014 No.1743904 >>1743899 What do you mean why? Because it's a fully fledged Windows 8 tablet that's a good deal cheaper than the Cintiq Companion perhaps, and I'm wondering what people here think of it's suitability as a drawing tablet.

Anonymous Tue Jun 3 06:51:48 2014 No.1743914
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>>1739251
How do you get over the fear of drawing in front of people?

When I went to a life drawing class, I've had no problems there. It's a nice atmosphere, everyone is understanding, some people are even worse than you, and I could draw without having any anxiety or an on-set paralysis.

But, whenever I try to draw in front of other people, like my family, then the shit gets worse. Whenever I hear someone walk past me I lose focus, I stop doing shit, anxiety takes over, I start having thoughts that are anything but drawing. This doesn't happen when I'm alone.

The problem is getting to me, since I'm almost never alone. I feel like it is stopping me from drawing a lot of times, because I'd never start. Whenever I'm alone, it's fine, I just whip out a sketchpad and go at it. But, when I'm with someone I know I fear that they'll judge me. It's a very irrational fear, but I can't make it go away.

I usually don't give a fuck about anything, but when it comes to drawing I'm really insecure.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 3 07:20:55 2014 No.1743930 What's the best way to improve fast? I'm desesperate. Some days I draw good stuff, others everything I draw looks like shit. It must be because I'm an amateur.

Anonymous Tue Jun 3 07:23:13 2014 No.1743931

>>1743930
There is no secret. Work hard, work smart. Think about your weaknesses, think about why they're your weakness and work on it step by step, on thing at a time. After months and years those baby steps will accumulate into real progress and skill.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 3 07:26:02 2014 No.1743934 When I do the upside down drawing exercises I just see it perfectly right side up in my head, does this explain why I can't draw? How can I fix this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 3 08:52:46 2014 No.1743965 >>1743843 To keep on drawing even if you feel like shit, and that your drawings are shit.

Anonymous Tue Jun 3 10:31:15 2014 No.1744029

I keep on reading all these books, loomis and the recommended whatnots, but I just don't get it. They all seem like beginners books at first sure but then all they do is show you how to copy what they do. When they draw their shit they already have proper knowledge of anatomy and the likes and then they expect us to know about it also. The only thing I got from reading fun with a pencil is basic shapes mixed with perspective is good for building up your drawings which is pretty obvious and only took me one fucking sentence instead of a whole book to figure out.

Where are the real beginners books?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 3 10:49:42 2014 No.1744038 File: 415 KB, 681x600, wut.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1743888 lol i'm won't ever make fun of cars designers anymore

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 3 11:27:15 2014 No.1744066 >>1744038 why do you need to use so many god damn lines?!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 3 11:45:02 2014 No.1744082 >>1744066 Be kind to Parkinson patients... :c

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 3 12:07:00 2014 No.1744094 >>1744038 Maybe an idea to try traditional paper, pencil and, most important, a ruler. Really use those horizon lines and vanishing points, don't just guess. Leave the guesswork when you're more experienced and train the freehand drawing as a warm-up.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 3 12:08:39 2014 No.1744095 >>1742621 Her face remind me of the feels "meme"

Anonymous Tue Jun 3 12:14:08 2014 No.1744103
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>>1742966
Get a course called "The Structure of Man HD". Malicious tongues claim there's a 38GB torrent of it. He breaks everything down in real easy steps. Memorizing is the wrong way of doing it, you have to make it your own invention and it will be easy to redo it.
You can look into his course on his website alienthink.com/skeleton01.html - the first few lessons, including the human skull are free on there.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 3 13:17:03 2014 No.1744139 >>1744103 Structure of Man is TERRIBLE That guy can't draw worth for shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 3 17:12:37 2014 No.1744356 Is Concept Cookie worth paying for?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 3 18:03:46 2014 No.1744422 who or wtf is Hampton?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 3 21:55:44 2014 No.1744569 >>1743904 I'm interested in that too. It looks like a great solution but I guess everyone will be like "muh Wacom" without valid reasons.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 4 07:08:44 2014 No.1744836 How do I paint a realistic sand texture using only the regular round brush and no pre-made textures/brushes allowed? :(

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 4 10:28:42 2014 No.1744933 thread is auto-sage please post in new one >>1744927

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