Alternative Art/Stylization General

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Alternative Art/Stylization General Anonymous Mon Apr 21 16:05:53 2014 No.1710533 [DELETED]

Anime/Manga/Cartooning Thread

In order to do something right you must first do it wrong.

Previous Thread: >>1708071

A general message to aspiring artists: Fear is the mind killer. Do not be afraid to make mistakes as no one is perfect, you will make mistakes. Learn from those mistakes, break from your comfort zones and explore new horizons.

Submit your drawings, receive feedback or critique others! Share your knowledge and remember to thank those who've critiqued or red-lined your drawings. Most importantly, have fun.

This thread is meant for artists who might want to try to make stylized work in-between their studies. It is strongly recommended that you use this thread in conjunction with learning the elements and fundamentals of art. You can also discuss the visual elements of various professional artists as well if you keep it relatively articulate and civil.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 16:08:10 2014 No.1710535 >>/tumblr/

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Anonymous Mon Apr 21 16:20:59 2014 No.1710567
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Do these shadows make sense to anyone? I'm having trouble figuring how to light the figures in shadow, and I'm not sure if I've gone too far with the darks.

I think what I need to do is finish the dark layer, re-work the edge lights and soften the closest edge of the cast shadow, but I'm not sure. It'd be nice to get fresh eyes before I waste any more time with it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 16:22:57 2014 No.1710573 File: 375 KB, 1200x943, Steamroller 2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1710567 This is a version with lighter shadows for comparison.

GreyDeath Mon Apr 21 16:31:09 2014 No.1710587

>>1710567
The shadows kinda don't make any sense altogether. You have light sources being positioned behind the 2 small figures in the background, one apparently above the mob on the ground, and one supposedly cast by the flying tank onto the ground mob, and that flying tank also has a light source above.

Simplify.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 17:23:36 2014 No.1710661 >>1710465 Was related to how you did the lineart, so doesn't matter.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 17:29:20 2014 No.1710663 File: 587 KB, 1000x940, EOIV-sketch.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Mon Apr 21 17:40:45 2014 No.1710669

>>1710099

The fuck Kyle? seriously?

Well draw a shit ton of it a lot more burn yourself out on it if you're just going to quit so soon

also make sure you make a reference guide on how you draw plump and thighs and asses and also how you color and shade before you leave, i'm sure someone else will take up where you left off

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 17:47:37 2014 No.1710674 >>1710573 This>>1710587 And also, go even more darker, don't be afraid of pushing things up, you can always go back.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 17:53:17 2014 No.1710677 File: 305 KB, 502x572, Untitled-1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Mon Apr 21 18:46:33 2014 No.1710732

>>1710674
>>1710587
How does this sound as a strategy: First, moving the light source to the setting sun off the left directly behind the tank. Then, making ambient secondary lighting from the twilight off the right, directly in front of it. Fix up some appropriate colour and stars in the sky, adjust the hues, and make sure the lighting puts focus on the tankers. Hopefully that'll do it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 18:52:37 2014 No.1710740 >>1710677 the synergy is just fucking horrible. Do you even synergize?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 19:21:00 2014 No.1710771 >>1710740 1000x this bro, we are in total synergizmic synergy

GreyDeath Mon Apr 21 19:44:22 2014 No.1710804

>>1710732
That could work. I do like the coloring on the tank and those guys. The shadows on the ground mob is what needs to be thought out better. And you have that skull/robot guy breaking through the ground with a green glow whose light can be also cast on some of the other characters. To be honest, you picked a really complex scenario that's a bitch to create some sort of focus. Good luck.

As for going darker, I'd suggest against that. You already have a busy enough piece without having to make people figure out forms in deep shadow.

Interesting character designs btw.

>>	GreyDeath Mon Apr 21 19:45:39 2014 No.1710810 >>1710677 I like what you did with the gradations around the keyboard. More of that please.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 20:01:28 2014 No.1710830 Hey question, when you guy's draw poses of your characters/subjects, do you use reference from a photo? Or is it all from your mind?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 20:04:57 2014 No.1710831 >>1710830 You just have to synergize disparate elements well enough, it's just that simple.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 20:08:30 2014 No.1710835 >>1710831 What, is that one of your anime reference?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 20:13:27 2014 No.1710839 >>1710835 Yes

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 21:15:48 2014 No.1710906 >>1710740 wat is a synergyse

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 21:18:17 2014 No.1710909 >>1710906 same thing as rhythm

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 21:20:27 2014 No.1710910 >>1710906 It's either a wizard or dogwhistling speak for weebs

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 21:27:06 2014 No.1710913 >>1710909 LOL nope you're not. Synergy is something else. Stay pleb, retard.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 21:33:51 2014 No.1710920 >>1710913 how long are you going to be mad that guy used a word you didn't know. maybe that's what started off the capulet v. montague vendetta. romeo the first said juxtapose instead of contrast or something.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 21:37:10 2014 No.1710922 >>1710920 How long are you going to stay cancer?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 21:38:39 2014 No.1710924 >>1710922 4eva i haveto juxta oppose your lameness.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 21:39:02 2014 No.1710927 >>1710922 :^)

>>	GreyDeath Mon Apr 21 21:39:42 2014 No.1710928 >>1710830 Most of the time out of my head. Sometime I'll like a pose in a photo and use it as reference. If I want a hand I'm drawing to look more natural/accurate, I'll take a picture of my hand in the mirror.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 21:42:40 2014 No.1710929 >>1710922 >cancer talking about cancer The irony

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 21:43:59 2014 No.1710930 >>1710924 >can't into synergy

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 21:44:32 2014 No.1710931 File: 14 KB, 300x330, duty_calls.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >people still arguing about semantics This is you

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 21:46:16 2014 No.1710932 >>1710931 >implying they're not just trying to kill the stylization thread with e/b/in

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 21:49:23 2014 No.1710933 >>1710931 too much of a coward to reply directly? you're just buttfrustrated you haven't figured out the secret to synergyization

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 21:50:27 2014 No.1710934 File: 140 KB, 819x842, ss (2014-04-22 at 12.53.26).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] posting a very slight update because the previous one got buried in badd poepl girl that's not a muscly rin-chan etc

>>	GreyDeath Mon Apr 21 21:58:32 2014 No.1710939 File: 100 KB, 472x600, MsMarvel_Daddy_ref.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1710830 Example of being inspired by a pose. Deelicious.

>>	GreyDeath Mon Apr 21 22:00:57 2014 No.1710944 >>1710934 I can't remember what the other one was like exactly, but for some reason now this one the head looks like it's been shrunken down, cleaned up alot and placed back onto the body. The rendering doesn't match the rest of the pic.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 22:02:08 2014 No.1710947 >>1710939 you drew dis?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 22:09:44 2014 No.1710951 >>1710939 Cool, thanks for showing me what you do. I wasn't sure if I should feel bad for copying a pose from a picture

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 22:13:32 2014 No.1710958 >>1710533 >>1710533 what is this figure Op's image depicts, someone on /3/ has made a horrific nude rendering of that one and kept spamming it for a couple of years. I thought it was his original design but seeing this I realize it's probably not.

>>	GreyDeath Mon Apr 21 22:18:39 2014 No.1710961 >>1710947 ...yess?

>>	GreyDeath Mon Apr 21 22:22:12 2014 No.1710964 File: 655 KB, 740x800, AccRef.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1710951 As long as you're not ripping off bits in some kind of paste up thing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 22:24:53 2014 No.1710968 >>1710951 If you use a reference it should be only for that reference

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 22:25:27 2014 No.1710969 >>1710964 Man I don't even know what I'm looking at on the bottom panels. Did someone just crop pieces of the rendered bunny girl and make a new girlf rom those parts?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 22:26:14 2014 No.1710971 >>1710964 you ripped off dirty pair, don't see how yours is the exception

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 22:27:39 2014 No.1710973 >>1710969 looks like there's a daz model under there

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 22:31:50 2014 No.1710975 >>1710971 Greydeath now owns Dirty Pair whatchu talking about?

>>	GreyDeath Mon Apr 21 22:32:38 2014 No.1710976 File: 164 KB, 1200x800, BadRef.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1710971 Never heard of doujinshi? Did I say it was OC? >>1710969 Sorry, that is kinda small, have an embiggened one to see the swipes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 22:33:09 2014 No.1710977 >>1710961 digital?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 22:37:20 2014 No.1710983 >>1710976 So which one here is the reference? Either piece could be fanart of the other and are using the arrow'd parts as reference. Not sure what you're trying to show here.

GreyDeath Mon Apr 21 22:37:33 2014 No.1710984

>>1710975
I Fookin' Wish! I did talk to Adam Warren who owned the book rights in the US for a while (with Toren Smith) about doing more DP, but he's quite happy doing his Empowered series. Licensing fees take a huge chunk out of the production of a book that it's not worth it for him to go back. I believe Dark Horse holds the rights atm.

Better off coming up with ones own ideas to make money off of. I do Dirty Pair because I'm a fan.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 22:38:54 2014 No.1710986 >>1710976 so you're the exception? OK

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 22:41:55 2014 No.1710991 >>1710986 well..yes. if you draw bart simpson you're not ripping off bart simpson, you're drawing bart simpson.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 22:44:02 2014 No.1710993 >>1710991 not according to you.

GreyDeath Mon Apr 21 22:44:38 2014 No.1710995

>>1710983
The one on the Right is an official character 3D model (with possible paintovers) from Final Fantasy. The other is fan art where the person copy and pasted bits of armor onto their drawing. That's not a good habit for artists and bad if you're called out on it.

>>1710986
Exception about what?

>>	GreyDeath Mon Apr 21 22:46:32 2014 No.1710999 File: 177 KB, 1470x2000, 1195821813566sm.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1710995 whoops forgot the attachment of the original Official Fran character.

>>	GreyDeath Mon Apr 21 22:48:45 2014 No.1711002 File: 212 KB, 706x1000, Ms Marvel Daddy Sm.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1710977 No, traditionally penciled. Have some digital inks though. ;D

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 22:53:54 2014 No.1711009 So is it summer already? That's usually signaled by the arrival of Phil. I think his antidepressants start to get low around this time of year. It's hard to get work to pay for those pills when you're the fat smelly asian autist in the office.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 22:54:15 2014 No.1711011 >>1711002 Did you lightbox it? Sorry for picking your brain so much, I draw mostly traditional and have been having issues with crisp lines like you have in >>1710939. You didnt even smudge the paper...

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 22:59:12 2014 No.1711017 File: 28 KB, 344x468, new pic.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1710533 what did i do wrong /ic/?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 23:03:03 2014 No.1711021 >>1711017 Use a reference.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 23:04:23 2014 No.1711024 >>1710976 >embiggened Wow, I hope that was a joke. Really rustled my synergy there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 23:05:33 2014 No.1711028 >>1711021 reference?

GreyDeath Mon Apr 21 23:06:02 2014 No.1711029
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>>1711009
...Jelly seems to rear its head again. Sad. Draw anything lately?

>>1711011
Np. And thanks for the compliment, but I'm not that clean. There are plenty of smudges. As for the linework, if you're still doing fuzzy lines, you're drawing from the wrist when you could be drawing from the elbow or even the whole arm when working on bigger canvases. The longer the arc you can draw, the smoother your lines will be.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 23:07:51 2014 No.1711035 >>1711017 Fundamental construction. Try again, man. >>1711024 It's perfectly cromulent. Check your dynamic paradigms.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 23:10:01 2014 No.1711039 File: 3 KB, 315x369, hurrrImustbejellyhurrr.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1711029 I drew a picture of your life

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 23:11:13 2014 No.1711040 >>1711029 I'll give it a shot thanks

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 23:12:23 2014 No.1711044 >>1711035 what do you mean by fundamental construction?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 23:15:57 2014 No.1711051 >>1711044 It's flat as fuck and you're symbol drawing pretty hard. You have to visualize the body as a collection of shapes and build it as such.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 23:17:42 2014 No.1711053 >>1711051 what do you mean symbols. sorry i have no idea what anyone's talking about. hopefully you'll take time to explain

>>	GreyDeath Mon Apr 21 23:19:05 2014 No.1711055 >>1711039 I suppose that's also the extent of your drawing ability. Thanks for sharing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 23:19:18 2014 No.1711056 >>1711053 Read through the "one stop beginner's guide" link in the sticky. it will explain symbol drawing and more.

Anonymous Mon Apr 21 23:22:05 2014 No.1711059

>>1711053
In a nutshell, symbol drawing is drawing what you think something looks like rather than how it should be drawn with depth. Like how a child draws an eye compared to how an actual eye looks like.

The sticky will tell you everything you need to know to improve. Take what it teaches to heart, work hard and come back once you've grasped the fundamentals.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 23:25:16 2014 No.1711068 >>1711059 i don't want to sound like i'm dodging improvement, but if someone has some sort of style, aren't they symbol drawing?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 23:27:03 2014 No.1711070 >>1711068 yes but fundamentals and visual reality are the basis. stylized drawings still imply depth

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 23:29:27 2014 No.1711072 >>1711070 what fundamentals would you say i'm missing? everyone keeps saying it looks flat and i don't really understand

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 23:29:43 2014 No.1711074 >>1711068 Successful manga and comic book artist can abstract and simplify because they're established artists and they understand the underlying structures. They are representational but they have depth.

Anonymous Mon Apr 21 23:31:09 2014 No.1711075
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Scratched out a colour test. So far as I can see I have to find a way to make the tank stand out more. The Necron glow needs to be toned down, and the blacks lightened. Not sure if it would be better going to a mid-day lighting where the Space Marine and SoB under the tank are overshadowed instead of the mob.

>>	GreyDeath Mon Apr 21 23:32:36 2014 No.1711077 File: 202 KB, 315x369, 1398136201190redline.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1711039 A picture paints a thousand words. ;D

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 23:34:57 2014 No.1711078 >>1711039 That's the best polar bear blinking in a snow storm picture i've ever seen 10/10

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 23:35:33 2014 No.1711079 File: 256 KB, 1300x861, FIGURE-06.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1711072 Look how this figure is drawn, the artist builds the shapes that represent the body, it shows depth. This is the basis of drawing anything, anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 23:36:27 2014 No.1711080 >>1711079 that makes a lot more sense

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 23:36:58 2014 No.1711082 >>1711077 Top lel Never change, please.

Anonymous Mon Apr 21 23:37:59 2014 No.1711083 [DELETED]

"symbol drawing" is a bullshit meme used when the anon doesn't know how to look at the drawing critically and can't put his/her finger on why it doesn't work well as a drawing. It's also something said to make you feel left out and to fuck with you. Not joking, that's what it is.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 23:39:00 2014 No.1711084 >>1711077 and all of yours say: HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR...

Anonymous Mon Apr 21 23:40:21 2014 No.1711085

>>1711079
>>1711080
Mind you, once you've learned how to construct the figure like this it isn't as if you'll be drawing it's construction out each time.

The idea is by practicing drawing in this way you eventually learn to visualize the construction of the figure in your head as you draw.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 23:40:35 2014 No.1711086 File: 72 KB, 594x595, 7544.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1711083

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 23:40:59 2014 No.1711087 >>1711084 Your autism is showing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 23:42:11 2014 No.1711088 >>1711085 well i do it, but really simply. i make the thighs a bit fatter, i blob the forearms, i round the shoulders. i don't know...

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 23:44:36 2014 No.1711092 >>1711086 >>1711087 Do you know any more recent memes or are we at your limit here?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 23:46:11 2014 No.1711095 >>1711088 Whatever works, nothin' wrong with that. All I'm saying is the picture posted here >>1711079 is more about learning to think that way rather than draw that way, even if you start by drawing that way.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 23:46:21 2014 No.1711096 >>1711092 No, seriously I think you suffer from a form of Autism.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 23:48:22 2014 No.1711097 >>1711096 Can't we just call them a retard? Some legit autistic people are actually alright.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 23:48:25 2014 No.1711098 >>1711095 thanks, thats really helpful

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 23:53:26 2014 No.1711099 >>1711097 >>1711096 AW MAN, you called me autistic AND retarded. There's no recovery from that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 23:54:22 2014 No.1711100 >>1711099 he got you good man. might as well just give up while you can

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 23:59:44 2014 No.1711103 >>1711100 No, he got the stupid. Wait until you start seeing the crybaby text walls.

GreyDeath Tue Apr 22 00:09:46 2014 No.1711105
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>>1711075
Might I ask at what size or distance are you intending the viewer to be looking at the pic? That could give you some direction into how intricate you want to get with all the shadows on the characters.

To me the tank stands out fine, maybe lighten up the shadows on the flesh of the booze guy so his face is more easily recognized. I squint and I immediately see 3 lumps.

I did a color test of my own, to see if it would separate the characters a bit. I extended the green glow from the ground and highlighted certain portions of neighboring characters. I also took some lighter colors and gave some of the ground mob a secondary light source to give them some highlights so they stood out more. If you do use this, make sure not to put those highlights all over the place, only try to keep it to spots you want to emphasis; mainly, characters's upper bodies. I also put in a white core to the green laser's energy source to make it pop more.

Hope this helps.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 00:27:21 2014 No.1711114 File: 108 KB, 446x1000, littlegirlasain.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1710669 I didn't mean I was going to stop drawing porn forever. I just wanna try to draw things from time to time that I could actually show to my mom.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 00:28:51 2014 No.1711117 >>1711114 Animals and landscapes. Moms love that shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 00:31:08 2014 No.1711121 >>1711114 Self portraits. >>1711077 Do you have a blog or something where people can ask you questions?

GreyDeath Tue Apr 22 00:32:21 2014 No.1711123

>>1711114
Could expand your palette and experiment with painting fabrics, environments. If you need to make it interesting, throw a beautiful woman (not naked) in there. I can't recall if I've seen you do environments or even a different lighting scheme other than white light.

Try a night scene under a streetlight?

>>	GreyDeath Tue Apr 22 00:46:51 2014 No.1711136 >>1711121 >>1711121 I do have a blog, but apparently 4chan won't let me put it up thinking it's spam. Email in the name. I can't guarantee a timely reply.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 01:00:51 2014 No.1711145 >>1711136 It is spam

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 01:03:03 2014 No.1711152 File: 481 KB, 2089x647, snk.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Finally finished SnK. I wish it was as good as the hype. Practicing facial placements right now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 01:04:46 2014 No.1711155 >>1711152 >He says SNK >But I don't hear any powah dunkhs >Oh-kay!

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 01:06:03 2014 No.1711156 File: 170 KB, 1200x372, snk.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1711155 AoT, better? Reposted cause the original was huge.

Anonymous Tue Apr 22 01:20:19 2014 No.1711171

>>1711105
Thanks for all this, it's helping a whole lot.

I'm not sure about the size or distance, never gave it a thought. Not sure how it can help either, but maybe I'm just that foreign to colour.

How are you getting those marks by the way, you aren't just using a soft brush, are you?

Anonymous Tue Apr 22 01:33:01 2014 No.1711182

>>1711156

I can only tell who one of those characters is.

You'd benefit greatly from a short course in caricature, where you can learn how to emphasize iconic shapes and facial features to create a strong likeness that is both recognizable and, yet, creatively adventurous.

For example: Eren (I would assume that's Eren, based on his hair) on the far right is shown. Eren, in his original design, has comparatively larger eyes to both Mikasa (the only character I can recognize) and Levi, yet you have not only drawn his eyes small, but you've made his nose bigger, and in a shape that is inconsistent with his original design.

If it weren't for you explicitly saying these characters were from Attack on Titan, I honestly would have been completely unable to recognize them.

Anonymous Tue Apr 22 01:35:33 2014 No.1711185

>>1711155

What the fuck are you even saying?

>not saying SNK
>calling it by any other name
>calling it by its botched english name
>being autistic enough to even give enough of a shit in the first place

Some people here can actually speak Japanese, thank you very much.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 01:43:21 2014 No.1711191 >>1711182 That's Jean, not Levi, you toad

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 01:46:15 2014 No.1711194 >>1711185 He's probably confused it with SNK, that game company that made King of Fighters, Fatul Fury, Metal Slug etc

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 01:47:32 2014 No.1711198 >>1711194 That was the joke. Guess I'm just showing my age instead.

GreyDeath Tue Apr 22 01:57:59 2014 No.1711207

>>1711171
I suppose the size and distance of a piece really isn't that important if you're remaining digital and not printing it and hanging it on a wall. It's just when one gets too noodley with details a viewer might not find the piece as easy to read if it were printed as a postcard.

For the marks I was just using the Airbrush tool in Manga Studio. I was selecting your colors, then lightening them up a tad and rendering lighter portions to give some emphasis to the characters.

Here and there I was adding white highlights that can give a plastic/metal effect depending on how you do it. I don't do alot of coloring myself so I can't give you a concrete answer on how to proceed.

People in Draw Thread could probably give you some pointers about light, but they're thinking more along the lines of scribbly concept painting and not cel shading.

Anonymous Tue Apr 22 02:01:32 2014 No.1711209
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>>1711182
Thanks. I'm still learning real proportions and how big eyes can get before they get too anime. I thought I'd get away making Eren have rounder eyes compared to the other characters with more rectangle eyes.

Any suggestions on books/videos I can go through? I've got serious sameface.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 02:12:42 2014 No.1711217 >>1711209 This is gonna sound cliché but go draw more faces. Photos, life, young, old, fat, gaunt, male, female, asian, black, indian, learn what goes into making the shapes of the head and vary the fuck out of your studies.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 02:38:23 2014 No.1711235 File: 306 KB, 502x572, Untitled-1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1710677

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 03:19:06 2014 No.1711258 >>1711235 Is that Um-Jammer Lammy? Bretty gawaii bruh

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 03:24:26 2014 No.1711259 File: 691 KB, 1600x1800, Yes.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 03:25:30 2014 No.1711261 >>1711258 eyup, thengs :DD

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 03:37:23 2014 No.1711268 >>1710810 thank you! i appreciate your comments

Anonymous Tue Apr 22 03:51:36 2014 No.1711275

>>1710934
Would probably be better to show her pants all the down on her left leg behind the armor/boots. Right now it looks like everything from the knees got cut off and flattened. The right leg either needs the foot or the kneecap rotated to align with the other, depending on what pose you want.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 05:24:50 2014 No.1711307 >>1711259 is there somewhere you're all copying this look from. there's so much stuff that looks exactly like this i would swear they were by the same dude. is it that youtube guy who does those horrid surrogate friends thing with the fat neckbeard.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 06:28:22 2014 No.1711335 >>1711307 surrogate what

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 06:40:32 2014 No.1711341 >>1710831 good job showing that you don't know how to use the word synergy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 07:00:35 2014 No.1711348 >>1711335 you know, people don't have friends so they watch some friends on youtube playing video games and feel less lonely.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 11:32:58 2014 No.1711511 Synergy thread

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 11:34:51 2014 No.1711516 >>1711511 dilbertsynergy.avi (Wish I had my tablet out here.)

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 11:43:28 2014 No.1711517 Bitches love swallowing my synerjizm

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 11:46:42 2014 No.1711519 >>1711516 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2Y8801gSaE SYNERGY!!!

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 11:49:40 2014 No.1711523 File: 711 KB, 1536x2048, 1398181685900.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Cmon guys stop it and post more drawings. Inbefore it needs more synergy

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 11:54:57 2014 No.1711525 >>1711519 >A little cheese pizza upgrade God damn.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 11:55:57 2014 No.1711526 >>1711523 well... it does

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 11:58:33 2014 No.1711528 Bbl, going to the store to get more synergy

>>	GreyDeath Tue Apr 22 12:20:41 2014 No.1711543 File: 1.69 MB, 1920x1080, Screenshot (5).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] WIP

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 12:29:13 2014 No.1711547 >>1711528 >still this butthurt ha

GreyDeath Tue Apr 22 12:54:05 2014 No.1711565
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>>1711523
Cute. But she looks like she's off balance with her far foot being in front of her near foot. I made a simple adjustment by shortening her far leg so it appears to be more under the rest of her body.

Other adjustments were making the breasts more the same size, having her hand go under her shirt a bit, and moving the axe blade a bit off the hand holding it so it's not touching.

I really do despise that feet turned in thing, but I understand it's moe.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 13:15:31 2014 No.1711575 >>1711543 I like the astetics of the guy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 14:24:31 2014 No.1711645 >>1711543 do you have a blog?

>>	GreyDeath Tue Apr 22 14:31:47 2014 No.1711652 File: 233 KB, 776x1200, AT140422.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1711645 Yes, but I can't type it here, 4chan don't like it (Rock the Casbah). Nother page down. Still too slow.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 14:34:18 2014 No.1711655 >>1711017 you exist

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 14:42:36 2014 No.1711662 >>1711655 ruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 15:01:26 2014 No.1711676 File: 32 KB, 500x504, 139124368770.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1711655 >replying 16 hours later >just to be a dick

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 16:52:34 2014 No.1711746 >>1711011 >>1711029 To answer the thing GreyDeath didn't: No, he didn't trace it and neither should you! That also counts as "Not acceptable use of reference"...

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 17:24:12 2014 No.1711757 File: 795 KB, 2411x1716, patriarchy2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Okay, I posted this on another thread, but I guess this one is a lot more relevant. I need some color/shading suggestions. inb4 lol tentacle rape

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 18:44:07 2014 No.1711803 So I went out and bought a wrist brace. Can i draw with this thing? I cant really move my thumb too well in it. Should i just wait out the swelling/pain?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 19:03:35 2014 No.1711820 File: 80 KB, 243x247, 1397155475262.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1711803 You've got the damn brace on and your drawing implements in front of you, try it out yourself

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 19:30:37 2014 No.1711854 >>1711746 We all know your non referenced work is trash, you need your crutch gay dearth

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 19:53:57 2014 No.1711871 >>1711757 >that fucking anatomy Install loomis.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 19:54:31 2014 No.1711872 >>1711055 10/10 response

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 19:55:46 2014 No.1711875 >>1711079 >this artist bitch, thats Hampton

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 19:57:08 2014 No.1711876 >>1711114 >that face Fucking, What.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 19:58:35 2014 No.1711877 >>1711348 >tfw im doing this right now H-How did you know anon?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 20:01:02 2014 No.1711878 >>1711652 I remember you. You were the guy doing the childerns comic

>>	GreyDeath Tue Apr 22 20:08:39 2014 No.1711890 >>1711854 tut tut! You need to calm down or you're not going to live too long. ;)

GreyDeath Tue Apr 22 20:13:36 2014 No.1711898

>>1711746
I didn't understand if Anon meant if I printed out the ref and lightboxed it or if I did my gesture and layout and then lightbox it. Either way, I didn't lightbox anything.

There are artists who will layout things on tracing paper or vellum and then lightbox it to the page, that's one way of doing your workflow to get to a "clean" drawing.

Anonymous Wed Apr 23 04:31:09 2014 No.1712213
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A mock-up sprite I threw together of a character sprite for a vn I'm working on. I realise the pose is a bit plain but I wanted a fairly blank expression for this test. The completed sprites will be animated which is why I also used lazy shading but any crit would be nice so I can take it into account as much as I'm able come the finished product, after all I want to produce the best work I can for my ability.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 06:44:45 2014 No.1712282 >>1712213 Don't use black outlines, colorize them? And make her more interesting, anybody will just skip over her dialogue, because she is so depressing and boring.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 07:03:48 2014 No.1712290 File: 711 KB, 1080x1920, Sketch22201323.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I doodle at work.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 07:05:36 2014 No.1712292 File: 850 KB, 1080x1920, Sketch2229157.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1712290 Doodle#2

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 07:09:39 2014 No.1712294 >>1712290 >>1712292 Is she wearing an invisible push-up bra? If not give dem titties some gravity.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 07:09:40 2014 No.1712295 >>1712290 >>1712292 Learn what real breasts look like.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 07:41:30 2014 No.1712307 >>1712295 K

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 08:55:16 2014 No.1712335 How do you guys start drawing anime or cartoons? It seems like you need to be very loose and have good gestures. I don't know where to start with drawing dynamic poses for characters who are cartoons.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 15:53:46 2014 No.1712345 Kancollefag here. I just wanted to say I am sorry for being cruel and I wish all of you the best of luck. I realized that you are all somebodys kid, with hopes and dreams and I don't want to be the ugly person who shit on that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 16:00:49 2014 No.1712351 >>1712290 >>1712292 >i can only draw one pair of tits

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 16:13:23 2014 No.1712369 dose anyone else here needs to draw most of the day producing turds to actualy be able to sketch some readable pose. Its frustrating.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 16:21:41 2014 No.1712378 >>1712369 Sounds like you need to draw faster. Like gesture fast. Just belt 'em out, five a minute or whatever 'till something sticks.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 16:26:19 2014 No.1712384 >>1712378 you might be right.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 16:26:55 2014 No.1712386 Why can no one in this thread draw?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 16:30:59 2014 No.1712390 >>1712386 because people that post here want to improve. instead of complaining about it how about you help them out?

>>	Trollchan Wed Apr 23 16:34:41 2014 No.1712396 File: 359 KB, 828x892, mmmbait.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1710958

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 16:54:27 2014 No.1712414 >>1712290 Use anatomy books and cheat sheets for drawing bodies for the problematic parts around her waist and so you don't miss parts of the body. >>1712386 because these would get paid for it

Anonymous Wed Apr 23 16:54:38 2014 No.1712415
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>>1712335

The same principle for cartoons applies, look at how Teal does his gestures and study how Vilppu's systematic approach for figure drawing is executed.

Both Artists use sequential lines which involve the mechanics of movement that allows you to "lead the eye through the figure" resulting in a free flowing abstract form.

As simple as it may seem, it is however one of the most difficult parts of learning since you must understand how to "see and feel the action" and since you are not copying the outline/shape it can be quite a frustrating experience but you must train yourself to only focus on what the figure is doing.

There are other methods of achieving gesture, there is no right or wrong way of doing it so as long as you get the action and are able to describe what a figure is doing as if you are telling a story not with words but with lines.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 16:55:10 2014 No.1712416 >>1712390 Who would want to help a piece-of-shit cancer like you?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 17:01:19 2014 No.1712419 >>1712415 Didactic yet vacuous

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 17:02:53 2014 No.1712420 >>1712419 u mean to say synergyless

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 17:04:08 2014 No.1712422 >>1712386 Because this is the puss filled cancerous crate we keep the broken toys in.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 17:10:19 2014 No.1712427 >>1712415 I never knew there were people who would go so far as to mimic someone's style of gesture drawing.

>>	deleted Wed Apr 23 17:41:37 2014 No.1712440 >>1712416 >>1712419 >>1712420 >>1712422 >>1712427 >too ugly to be model

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 17:43:44 2014 No.1712441 >>1712440 > too stupid to make sense

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 17:46:02 2014 No.1712442 File: 1.29 MB, 2100x1500, darksoulswaifu.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 18:05:27 2014 No.1712449 >>1712441 > implying you aren't talking about yourself

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 18:17:13 2014 No.1712452 File: 225 KB, 720x1280, Sketch23311364.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Tried to simplify and stylize some faces.

>>	GreyDeath Wed Apr 23 18:35:50 2014 No.1712462 >>1712292 yay 4chan's back. Being a fan of puffy inverted nipples I approve. Reminds me of Vaughn Bode's work. I don't mind the anti-gravity breasts, although they work better in the 2nd one than the 1st. Simple but effective character design.

>>	GreyDeath Wed Apr 23 18:40:49 2014 No.1712465 File: 1.18 MB, 1920x1080, Screenshot (6).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Continuing WIP

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 18:44:37 2014 No.1712467 >>1712452 man eyes are always smaller.

>>	FiRez !!tndrCZJHE+I Wed Apr 23 18:45:57 2014 No.1712469 >>1712467 Noted. Thanks

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 18:49:34 2014 No.1712472 File: 667 KB, 733x733, 1396693934006.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1712465 >dat one guy who dont give a fuck

Anonymous Wed Apr 23 18:54:18 2014 No.1712474

>>1712452
You compensate too much for your lack of skill when line drawing - either by using low opacity/soft brushes or by doing chicken scratching.

Draw the lines slower without duplicate strokes and think at the same time where they should go to and how they should look. Erase all accidental lines. This makes drawing much harder, but this is real drawing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 19:02:19 2014 No.1712485 >>1712474 there isn't any chicken scratching there. repeating a line is chicken scratching and it's just fine for sketching. i'm not him by the way, i just have a pet (get it) peeve about people misdiagnosing all sketchy lines as chicken scratch.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 19:03:22 2014 No.1712489 >>1712485 oops repeating a line isn't** chicken scratching. lol

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 19:04:01 2014 No.1712490 >>1712485 Not that guy but Firez does have a habit for petting his lines which leans towards chicken scratch territory. You want to make long, confident lines and not repeatedly going over it.

Anonymous Wed Apr 23 21:01:07 2014 No.1712510

>>>>1712485
Chicken scratching occurs when there is a poor economy or an unconfident expressiveness with the lines. You scratch marks without some kind of a focus.

And that weeb shows no authority in his "sketches" You can tell he's not searching for form, or even shape for the matter. He's just scratching about until a barely-good-enough facsimile occurs. They're boring and lifeless scratches he calls studies.

Chicken scratch is clearly evident there

FiRez !!tndrCZJHE+I Wed Apr 23 21:23:29 2014 No.1712533

>>1712485

Thanks.

I was just trying to not lose the sensitivity of the face while doing these that is why I used low opacity in certain parts.

As for the "chicken scratching" argument, I try to not do that, if you see repeated lines that with the aim of adding weight. Either way I'm here just trying to get better at two thing I suck tremendously: lines and stylization.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 22:31:34 2014 No.1712569 >>1712485 I don't think it's fine for sketching or what he posted. >>1712510 Was right on the head, but I think the one he did on the bottom right is still salvageable. If you want I say keep going with that one.

>>	FiRez !!tndrCZJHE+I Wed Apr 23 23:03:37 2014 No.1712599 File: 242 KB, 720x1280, Sketch233194644.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Battery is about to die. I will probably polish these a bit later.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 23:24:51 2014 No.1712620 >>1712599 >Firez Hey aren't you the guy that posts different variations of one single piece of work in the drawthread? How's it going man?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 00:03:42 2014 No.1712653 >>1712599 Good to see you're actually branching away from solely doing studies Those eyes though

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 00:11:51 2014 No.1712663 Dont get your hopes up, those are just the sketches. And they are exactly the same face in everything that thing posts. Prepare for an endless barrage of shity photoshop paintings, one stroke at a time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 00:14:24 2014 No.1712666 >>1712663 Firez is love. Firez is life.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 00:16:47 2014 No.1712669 >>1712599 >polishing turds Firez when are you ever gonna give this up?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 00:19:54 2014 No.1712673 >>1712663 >>1712669 >Hey guys, I added a single stroke of a different hue to this painting. What do you think? Should I add another stroke of paint? I'll update you when I do.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 00:22:56 2014 No.1712677 >>1712673 Aw come on I used to do the same thing with my drawings and nobody made a big deal about it. Interaction is one of the ways we learn we need more interaction.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 00:29:35 2014 No.1712680 File: 127 KB, 402x633, edgy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I think I just subconsciously drew my sisters face

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 00:33:17 2014 No.1712682 >>1712680 Goddammit Kyle.

Anonymous Thu Apr 24 00:37:37 2014 No.1712684

>>1712677

But his iterations were so small and miniscule, no one would notice until he actually pointed it out. Put that on top of bombarded the drawthreads with frequent posts of basically what was the same picture and a tripname, and you got something the community on /ic/ hates.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 00:45:38 2014 No.1712687 >>1712680 Your anatomy is a sham

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 01:01:39 2014 No.1712695 >>1712680 who kicked her face in?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 01:17:24 2014 No.1712704 >>1712680 Your sister must be really ugly then.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 01:17:57 2014 No.1712705 >>1712695 I think it's supposed to be a vampire >>1712704 rude.

>>	Faggneto Thu Apr 24 01:24:08 2014 No.1712710 File: 571 KB, 1536x2048, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 01:58:32 2014 No.1712744 >>1712710 are you like the best drawer in middleschool?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 02:12:21 2014 No.1712756 >>1712680 >>1712710 >>1712599 >>1712465 >>1712415 >>1712396 >>1712290 >>1712292 >>1712213 >>1711757 >>1711652 why do you persist when you are such trash? doesn't the voice in your head tell you to feel shame after years of mediocrity?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 02:21:29 2014 No.1712759 >>1712756 >Grouping up good and bad artists alike and calling them trash. gr8 b8 m8 I r8 8/8

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 02:25:44 2014 No.1712763 >>1712756 I see that you have a very classic taste in baits anon, you are going to have to get with the times though, if you want anything out of it.

FiRez !!tndrCZJHE+I Thu Apr 24 02:33:00 2014 No.1712767
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>>1712620
I used to do that. Not nowadays.

>How's it going man?

Pretty terrible, particularly today but being able to create and improve in order to create better things makes life much more bearable.

>>1712666
<3

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 02:44:53 2014 No.1712771 Hondurans ruin everything, and now they're ruining /ic/

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 04:11:12 2014 No.1712804 >>1712680 >moe face proportions.. >..with the nosebridge of a full grown man I KEEP TELLING YOU FUCKERS

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 04:27:25 2014 No.1712808 >>1712804 she doesn't look like a man at all, are the only women you see moe shit?

Anonymous Thu Apr 24 04:28:10 2014 No.1712809

>>1712485
This kind of bad habit may be known under another name, but I find that problem is the same as lots of short lines and the results are the same. That's why I called it that. And calling all the deviations chicken scratches makes it a nice catch phrase to throw around.

Except you have a better catch phrase.

And you should get rid of it in sketches, too.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 04:37:33 2014 No.1712812 >>1712680 Did you also subconsciously drew her body? She got some real nice teeth then.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 04:38:24 2014 No.1712813 >>1712808 >the ability to read

Anonymous Thu Apr 24 04:49:22 2014 No.1712819

>>1712809
well i don't like it.

i just find them to be different problems and bundling them together is not all that helpful. petting a line is a confidence thing, repeating a line is rushing, and goes with all the other forms of messiness, not with the lack of confidence stuff.

but there are plenty of good artists who start with a very ugly sketch with lots of repeating, but there are none who chicken scratch.

repeating lines can even look good if they end up reading as weight.

christ, i've thought about this too much now i shouldn't of said anything :/

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 05:09:38 2014 No.1712831 >>1712808 Her nose is still badly drawn.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 06:15:47 2014 No.1712870 >>1712819 True, but in both cases, the remedy is the same: draw clean lines slowly and think about the line you are drawing. That is why I simplify it down to calling all of it chicken scratching. Done for now, too :\/

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 07:27:57 2014 No.1712984 /ic/ - Sketching is a bad habit

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 08:39:47 2014 No.1713019 File: 176 KB, 402x633, nosebridge.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1712812 no her body is more like this. she has huge cow tits

Anonymous Thu Apr 24 09:08:30 2014 No.1713026

>>1713019
your sister is awesome

But you used gravity wrong on her breasts, they should hang downwards, not sideways. The ribcage is above them, they hang from there. And the nipples are normally at the lowest part of the breast when they hang like that.

/ic/ - how to get your sister to kill you

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 09:26:19 2014 No.1713038 >>1713019 Good jobe Kyle, you almost turned your whole family into 2D. Only now you can truly see.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 09:29:31 2014 No.1713040 >>1713019 how about not using moe proportions if you are going to draw the features like that?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 09:34:17 2014 No.1713044 File: 1.03 MB, 1565x2323, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Help please. Also, sorry for lined paper, I didn't have anything else on hand and I plan to ink over digitally anyways.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 09:36:05 2014 No.1713046 >>1713044 >homoball fanart on lined paper time to kill yourself

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 09:55:07 2014 No.1713054 >>1713019 but more important than the breasts, the nose is still wrong. lower part more to the left, upper part doesn't start that much in the left. Some heavy symbol drawing here. You can make the nose cute without this.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 09:58:21 2014 No.1713057 >>1713054 >symbol drawing anon....

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 10:13:32 2014 No.1713064 >>1713057 > anon.... yes, anon... ?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 10:39:39 2014 No.1713086 >>1713040 What are moe proportions?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 10:53:05 2014 No.1713092 >>1713086 when eye level quite a bit below 1/2 of the head.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 11:18:17 2014 No.1713100 File: 252 KB, 664x936, dds.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1710533 should i go any further with this?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 12:08:40 2014 No.1713108 >>1713100 yes. looks interesting. i wanna see the finish pic

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 12:40:24 2014 No.1713121 >>1713019 so you drew an eerie smiling mouth and kept the eyes symbol drawn so it looks like she has no cheeks or cheekbones good job

>>	GreyDeath Thu Apr 24 12:53:00 2014 No.1713124 >>1713100 Sure, the strong underlighting should be a good challenge. And bewbs. :3

GreyDeath Thu Apr 24 13:03:53 2014 No.1713125

>>1713019
continue...does the word balloon indicated continuity?

>>1713026
It depends on the the angle of the viewer. If she is bending over then yes, the breasts should hang down. But I looked at this more like an overhead shot, which would mean she's got a heck of a lot of tummy fat. Nice painting as always. Inserting another color for shadows works for me, could try to push that more.

Anonymous Thu Apr 24 13:33:18 2014 No.1713146

>>1713100
Looks a bit off balance, maybe reposition the legs a bit. Also draw her feet, it looks unfinished right now and cutting off limbs like that ruins the composition.
There's something like a rule where to cut off legs: above the knees or slightly under the knees. Now it looks like you can't draw feet.
Otherwise it's good, I especially like the head, it has character.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 13:36:17 2014 No.1713147 tfw cant bring myself to draw today.. i guess i will shit out pose or two max..

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 13:38:44 2014 No.1713149 >>1713147 Don't push yourself, just watch/read something and you'll get some inspiration today or tomorrow. If you don't wanna draw just don't.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 13:40:40 2014 No.1713152 >>1713149 Stfu cancer, oh wait anime thread. Carry on. I mean please stop. All of you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 13:42:34 2014 No.1713153 >>1713147 >i will shit out pose or two max.. don't. instead sketch something proper. focus on making it interesting. change things up until they look interesting to you

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 13:42:50 2014 No.1713155 >>1713149 n-no I-i will. People are drawing RIGHT now and are ahead of me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 13:44:05 2014 No.1713156 >>1713152 And what's so cancerous?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 13:50:14 2014 No.1713159 >>1713155 Well, it's your choice. I just think that you can't only produce media without consuming any. Sometimes the reserves end. >>1713152 Stop talking out of your ass.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 13:50:47 2014 No.1713160 >>1713147 draw some boobs >>1713125 I'm confused. Who are you? The artist?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 14:00:54 2014 No.1713168 >>1713160 That's what happens when you don't use a trip

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 14:03:05 2014 No.1713170 >>1713168 That's what happens when idiots cannot into reading comprehension.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 14:03:12 2014 No.1713171 >>1713019 Somethings wrong with her nose but what really bugs me is that she has almost no cheeks, making her look uncanny

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 14:06:04 2014 No.1713173 >>1713159 This is very true, you should always be feeding yourself material for imagination. Read a book or a doujinshi and eventually you will stumble an idea that you will want to bring to life. Just watch it so it doesn't become procrastination.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 14:11:01 2014 No.1713179 >>1713173 I dont need no ideas I just need to grind and study. What do i need ideas for if i cant draw them properly.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 14:14:44 2014 No.1713184 File: 79 KB, 1000x1000, Warmup.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Where did I go wrong.

Anonymous Thu Apr 24 14:20:41 2014 No.1713189

>>1713184
>Where did I go wrong.
by drawing using a light color on white.
don't mimick teal, draw using a color you can see properly so you can see your shapes properly, in all their glory.

also personally i recommend using a pencil/pen like brush instead of a soft one like that. but that depends on your preferences.

same probably also goes for miku.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 14:21:08 2014 No.1713190 >>1713179 I don't know if it works differently for other people, but consider the possibility that you'd get sick of drawing if you only grind. Post something.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 14:23:51 2014 No.1713196 >>1713189 I can see them properly, and each layer gets a new, darker color as I go through. Blue, then Green, Pink, then Black/Brown.

Anonymous Thu Apr 24 14:34:31 2014 No.1713208

>>1713196
yeah but still, you are creating the drawing while using these colors.

it's just my personal opinion but i think using colors that are TOO light will just soften your impression of the drawing as a whole.
or rather, i think you'd be able to see the major mistakes easier once you use a more solid color.
it's fine to do this if you are experienced, but i don't see the point of doing it in practice sessions.

for example: i don't know if those two lines are supposed to be clavicles, but their positioning is RIDICULOUS.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 14:36:18 2014 No.1713210 File: 748 KB, 3300x3300, toomanypixels.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1713208 >>1713208 Heres something darker then.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 14:38:51 2014 No.1713214 >>1713179 You need visual library and idias to be able to draw properly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnflBERf2zM

Anonymous Thu Apr 24 14:40:02 2014 No.1713215
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>>1713189
This might sound silly but the main reason why I use blue is because I like to remember "the spirit of the book" that's Professor Blook personified as basic forms. That's when things really started to make sense to me, Loomis was quite a guy he'll always have my respect.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 14:45:58 2014 No.1713219 >>1713210 >>1713215 no, use black. because black is best. well, just kidding, do what you want to do. >>1713210 you know, i also lighten my underdrawings by lowering their opacity, but i don't create them using a lighter color. but that's just me

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 14:55:07 2014 No.1713223 File: 57 KB, 550x579, girl.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1713184 Practice gestures drawings? Here's what I'll do for a one hand on hip pose. Rusty as hell tho, I need to practice more as well.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 14:56:36 2014 No.1713224 >>1713223 Can you explain how you start the torso? I can never get it right at any pose other than front view

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 15:06:22 2014 No.1713232 >>1713223 I like the added sass with the head turn/shoulder and the hand (How it was drawn once as a block, then moved again)

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 15:17:52 2014 No.1713236 File: 75 KB, 807x579, girl2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1713224 I just think of the torso as an egg shape. Then I place guidelines to construct the overall volume of the torso. I like to refer to Michael Hampton. >>1713232 Thank you!

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 15:18:30 2014 No.1713237 >>1712756 I don't hear voices in my head. That's crazy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 15:24:02 2014 No.1713241 >>1713236 I'll give that a look, thank you

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 15:27:53 2014 No.1713242 >>1713237 not artsy enough, gtfo

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 17:44:42 2014 No.1713354 File: 1.43 MB, 817x1083, IMG_20140424_0002.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I think I have basic construction down but I still suck at shading anyone got a good guide?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 18:19:59 2014 No.1713375 >>1713354 try still lifes. Not bad doodles.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 18:30:43 2014 No.1713387 >>1713354 For quick doodles those aren't bad. You have a little problem with foreshortening the legs there but you should some perspective work and what >>1713375 said.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 18:34:08 2014 No.1713390 File: 398 KB, 965x844, 85421542.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] gf wants me to teach her how to draw. She gives up too easily and can't handle the failures. What should tell her?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 18:44:03 2014 No.1713401 File: 102 KB, 1024x1112, wat r u casul.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1713390 Tell her that all drawing is is failing, over and over again and if she can't hang then drawing is not for her.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 18:45:43 2014 No.1713403 >>1713044 So can I get some crit on this before I go in digitally..?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 18:47:14 2014 No.1713405 >>1713390 Eyes are a bit too far appart, also remember to flip your canvas.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 18:48:34 2014 No.1713409 >>1713390 DAT MOUTH DUDE U CANT B SRS

Anonymous Thu Apr 24 18:52:06 2014 No.1713413

>>1713409
I personally like that little beek of a mouth :3 But in all seriousness if the eyes where a bit closer to each other it may proportion the face better. Hey redjuiceguy think about the corners of the eyes and the corners of the mouth and how they are in relation to each other/aligned.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 18:53:55 2014 No.1713415 File: 354 KB, 1512x1364, ZTYGUIJO.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] didn't have much time to work on this since last time still not sure how to go about drawing the legs and lower torso needs work too anywhere else I've fucked up?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 18:58:56 2014 No.1713420 File: 373 KB, 936x800, 85421542.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1713405 >>1713413 Oops It's late and gf keeps bugging me on Skype. >>1713409 Sorry, I have a habit of making mouths too small.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 19:00:18 2014 No.1713424 >>1713413 SHUT THE FUCK UP MIKU THAT LINE ABOVE THE MOUTH DO YOU NOT REALIZE HOW IT STANDS OUT? IT MAY AS WELL BE A SUPER THIN HITLER STACHE /allcaps

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 19:01:40 2014 No.1713425 >>1713415 are your hands supposed to be so big

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 19:05:28 2014 No.1713428 >tfw you realize you were making all the fingers end in points FUCK ITS SO HARD NOT TO DO

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 19:05:33 2014 No.1713429 File: 85 KB, 600x626, figure-drawing-male.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1713415 Proportions, man.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 19:07:00 2014 No.1713430 >>1713424 >THAT LINE ABOVE THE MOUTH Oh I didn't notice that. And I want my Anonymity back.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 19:09:54 2014 No.1713431 >>1713415 10/10 man boobs

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 19:10:10 2014 No.1713432 File: 362 KB, 938x800, 85421542.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1713405 >>1713413 Oops It's late and gf keeps bugging me on Skype. >>1713409 Sorry, I have a habit of making mouths too small edit: resize

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 19:13:43 2014 No.1713434 >>1713432 Looks better, now to do something about that left eye, it seems to be higher up more than the right and nudge it a bit closer. Remember to think about the corners.

>>	Fritjoff Bananemann !16RJyqRLek Thu Apr 24 19:50:56 2014 No.1713458 File: 52 KB, 591x808, perspecive at its best.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] doodlin' som' oppais

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 20:04:05 2014 No.1713462 >>1713390 >2014 >still having a gf enjoy missing out on waifu age

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 21:51:10 2014 No.1713512 File: 737 KB, 1783x2440, vomit tan.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1713458

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 22:01:49 2014 No.1713515 File: 195 KB, 440x567, 1392123923823.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1713458

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 22:15:59 2014 No.1713521 >>1713430 You're really cute, you know that?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 22:20:10 2014 No.1713524 does anyone have that beginning to draw anime faces image? I have done loomis and don't really care but am curious about how they construct it

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 22:33:22 2014 No.1713530 >>1712292 That's what super-stiff-teeny titz look like! you f.... A little stylized but Ok.

Anonymous Thu Apr 24 22:58:48 2014 No.1713546
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>>1713432

Rather than size, I think the position of the mouth is too low (and a little off center maybe?). That coupled with the way you've defined the philtrum makes her look like a monkey.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 25 02:00:17 2014 No.1713632 File: 244 KB, 965x635, fedoric.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I was thinking about making a web comic while bored at work

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 25 03:14:37 2014 No.1713664 >>1713632 please continue

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 25 03:22:02 2014 No.1713666 File: 1.71 MB, 2000x3000, 15.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how's this?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 25 03:23:56 2014 No.1713667 >>1713666 Why such a terribly ugly outfit?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 25 03:30:13 2014 No.1713669 >>1713667 http://drawmokie.tumblr.com/

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 25 03:39:44 2014 No.1713673 >>1713666 >satan trips >tyrannosaurus arms >homestuck >smoking The end times are upon us

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 25 04:44:52 2014 No.1713687 >>1713632 pls make american Watamote

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 25 09:57:49 2014 No.1713800 >>1713425 They are. I was attempting something similar to the Street Fighter art style.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 25 10:54:22 2014 No.1713854 New Thread: >>1713852 >>1713852 >>1713852

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:35:35 2014 No.1714834 >>1711002 it was digital inking? if it yes, how did you do the cross hatching please

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