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[Anonymous No.1697421]

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>>1695038

Post your current drawing here and give constructive critiques to others!
Please make sure your posted image is clear and is under 1500 x 1500 pixels in size.
If you want critique on a drawing from the previous thread, you can delete it there and repost in this one.

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[Anonymous No.1697433]

what am i even doing

[Anonymous No.1697435]

figure practice

[Anonymous No.1697434]

>>1697433

having fun

keep rendering

[Anonymous No.1697440]

almost done!

[Anonymous No.1697438]

trying out Jaime Jones' brush set.
>>1697435
The red by the cave opening is drawing my eye away from the figure.

[Anonymous No.1697439]

figure practice

[Anonymous No.1697442]

>>1697440
The perspective on the top of the head it really weird

[Anonymous No.1697447]

>>1697442
thx for noticing that. its because his head was a lot more tilted at the beginning. I think if i just add hair to the right it will fix it

[Anonymous No.1697465]

>>1697433
ogre desu~

[Anonymous No.1697466]

thing for a character contest at cghub, had to make a star wars sith lord

[Anonymous No.1697468]

lovely man as usual. though to be honest doesn't feel very sith lord without the lightsabers though i don't know much about the starwars universe. works better as a portfolio piece anyways though.

[Anonymous No.1697476]

>>1697421
So, yeah... That web comic I'm working on, this is the second page... any thoughts before I start inking?

[Anonymous No.1697492]

WIP also sorry for bad quality

[Anonymous No.1697493]

>>1697466
I wouldn't guess star wars from this image, you gotta get something iconic in their, like a lightsaber perhaps.

[Anonymous No.1697507]

>>1697466
I really like this design.

[Anonymous No.1697517]

>>1697492
I really like it I want a better quality image

[Anonymous No.1697520]

>>1697466
Looks cool man! As >>1697468 says though, it doesn't look very sith lord.

I did a quick paintover, might have ruined it though :P

Some of my thoughts:
-lightsaber sells the concept more
-the robe can be a bit more black to push the evil look
-the far wing looks shoehorned in...it is very small and lame, and the shape seems to fit perfectly in the negative space between her head and staff.
-the cast shadow over her upper face is so dark, it doesn't read as a shadow. It looks like something covering her eyes and face. I made all the shadows lighter and kept it consistent. Gives a bit of a different feel, but it reads more clearly. If you want such a dark shadow on her face, then make the rest of the shadows that dark. Although it doesn't make sense for it to be so dark given the local value of her skin.
-I made the hood shoot out a bit more over her head, currently I don't think it would leave the cast shadow that appears on her face.
-The hands/arm appear very warm compared to the skin in the light, I tried bringing in a bit more of the blue colour back to them.

[Anonymous No.1697540]

>>1697466
Catbib? The lighting and rendering seems familiar, has that RuanJia look to it. It's really nice man, don't agree with the paintover anon completely but I agree the face could do with being popped out a bit more, or maybe just the eyes. Could do the cheap glowy evil redness like in the films but I feel that'd take away from it a bit. Also the lower hand's fingers seem short, but that might just be me.

[Anonymous No.1697556]

my latest landscape painting, thoughts?

[Anonymous No.1697558]

>>1697556
It's boring. Horizon line right in the center of the canvas, focal point isn't interesting, colours aren't interesting, not much depth to the image, the clouds all point to the tree in the foreground, there is no story or concept, colours are uninteresting.

[Anonymous No.1697562]

>>1697439
I like

[Anonymous No.1697566]

>>1697556
>>1697558
How To Crit:
>Step One: Say what is wrong with it
>Step Two: Say how it can be fixed

You seem to have missed a step. It's a pretty nice enviro anon, could do with pushing the values a bit more and some color variation too maybe since at the moment it's mainly blue vs orange. Also feels pretty cool for what looks like a desert/dry plains. Push the heat, try make the viewer thirsty just by looking at it.

[Anonymous No.1697570]

>>1697466
That brush is so magical

[Anonymous No.1697572]

>>1697566
It seems like an early morning light which means that the artist would not want to push the dry feeling so much. Have you ever been to a desert area? It's still pretty cool in the mornings and the light reflects that.

I do agree that values should be pushed however and everything needs shifted around for a better composition.

[Anonymous No.1697582]

>>1697570
What brush is it?
If I use it I might become a great artist!

Not really, but I'd like to dabblewith it.

[Anonymous No.1697585]

>>1697582
Just looks like a chalk brush to me.

[Anonymous No.1697601]

tried doing some horses.

[Anonymous No.1697628]

i fail miserably at simplifying plants and trees

[Anonymous No.1697629]

>>1697628
i think you should focus on doing a couple detailed studies of trees and plants so you know what they look like vs painting what you think they look like.

once you understand it a bit might be easier to simplify.

[Anonymous No.1697630]

>>1697601
Work on your draftsmanship more before trying to do these quick paintings. You'll learn a lot more by drawing horses than painting them.

[Anonymous No.1697631]

>>1697629
thanks anon, ill try it

[Anonymous No.1697657]

>>1697628

its fucking hard as shit isnt it. thats why i would really encourage aspiring pros to get over their obsession for figure and anatomy, and start focusing on scenes and environments.

[Anonymous No.1697658]

>>1697476

This storyboard is good but your lines suggest a shitty line quality overall, even when you're not sketching.

[Anonymous No.1697666]

[Anonymous No.1697671]

i don't know man i have heard way more pros say to get your figures down as if you have a bad figure everything else will look like shit.

i have to agree with them, if your figure looks off it isn't going to matter how nicely your rocks are painted.

Also heard there is more work for things with characters vs environments.

Nice study though.

[Anonymous No.1697674]

>>1697666
>>1697657

These read well not sure if same guy but assuming you are.

your thumbs always read nice but when zoomed in looks pretty sloppy. would like to see some finished or more complete studys from you.

or maybe some more personal work got a blog?

[Anonymous No.1697682]

>Go through old papers and pictures from when i was a kid for fun
>See a drawing from when i was 10
>It was from an kids art class
>He told me i should draw what i saw with my eyes and not in my mind (i.e. the first step in learning to draw)
>It actually looks pretty good
>tfw i realise if i just wasn't a lasy shithead and practiced when i was 10 after learning it, i could've been awesome by now
How can i ever forgive myself?

[Anonymous No.1697686]

>>1697682

thats how overambitious parents who torment their kids to play piano/violin/sports/study are made.
gotta let it go anon.

[Anonymous No.1697688]

>>1697520
I don't agree with a single point here, you ever heard of subtelty? Sometimes it's better for focal points to not pop out immediately.

[Anonymous No.1697694]

>>1697682
That feel
>mom had a copy of drawing on the right side of the brain and would guide me through exercises when I was 10-11
>start making some progress as some of the stuff I did looked nice despite my age
>continue to draw pretty much every day
>high school starts
>video games happen
>13 years later and I'm kicking myself for not
I used to beat myself up over it a lot but after a year I've come to terms with what is and what could've been, you can't think of it that way. At least I got my Gaia online tier drawings out of the way back then.

[Anonymous No.1697709]

>>1697688
Well for the vast majority of illustration and concept art the goal is to have that quick read and bash the viewer over the head with the intent and focal point. This isn't fine art where you can be subtle; this is the entertainment industry where clients want things to be contrasty, tight, and very obvious. They don't want subtlety or creativity, they want what is popular and safe and they want to make damn sure the viewer knows it.

[Anonymous No.1697734]

>>1697682
>>1697694
This hits home. Maybe the perfect time that I see these posts, because I'm on the brink of giving up once again.
>to win the game, remain in the game

[Anonymous No.1697744]

>>1697734
>>1697694
I'm >>1697682
But unlike children, we have much more patiance and a better ability to understand and learn from our mistakes, and most importantly people give honest critique instead of deluding a kid.
Some great artist started when they were 20 or even later than that.
We can do it, anons. We all can.

[Anonymous No.1697745]

jonx

[Anonymous No.1697758]

>>1697421
Thumbnail looks great OP.

[Anonymous No.1697773]

>>1697744
>Some great artist started when they were 20 or even later than that.
I'm 18 and I draw like shit, this gives me hope.

[Anonymous No.1697791]

>>1697674

hey, thanks man i seem to always lose focus after im done 30% and never go back to finish anything. btw i only posted the first image, of the blueish castle. second one isnt my work

[Anonymous No.1697838]

Self portrait, came out looking a bit moodier than intended.

[Anonymous No.1697846]

What went wrong? (Studying keys to drawing)

[Anonymous No.1697871]

>>1697745
Are you going to post it when its done? :^)

[Anonymous No.1697876]

>>1697871
ye ill post progress

[Anonymous No.1697879]

>>1697876
Thank you bby
I will wait and watch

[PR No.1697883]

Wanted to finish this one, but I need to sketch the face again, didn't turn out well.

[Anonymous No.1697888]

>>1697883
Hand & feet hide 3/4
Extend the canvas

[Anonymous No.1697886]

>>1697744
20's? Shit dude, some really well respected members in the community have started up in their late 30's.

[PR No.1697891]

>>1697888
Funny thing is - I'm always drawing full visible bodies - this is the first time I tried to hide a part of the character, make it a little more dynamic or some shit.

[Anonymous No.1697892]

>>1697883
you know i'm glad the kids liked kill la kill so much. i'm an aged man and i watched all the old 'anime' when they were still called japanimation. and i haven't like anything since idk, love hina maybe and a few movies. then kill la kill comes a long with all it's old school style and references and the kids embrace it, warms the heart.

[PR No.1697893]

>>1697892
Yeah, I'm not much of a kid, but KLK is probably the first anime I watched weekly since Panty & Stocking. Had a blast with it.

[Anonymous No.1697899]

Does this even look like a tree so far?

[Anonymous No.1697906]

>>1697899
yes.

[Anonymous No.1697928]

>>1697658
>Storyboard
Is for a comic but yeah, is pretty much a story board
>Shitty line quality
I do have a tendency to chicken scratch when sketching and when actually inking I feel like I'm not as good as I should, wish I was as good as pic related guy

[Anonymous No.1697943]

[Anonymous No.1697947]

anyone know a good book about shading?

[Anonymous No.1697952]

>>1697899

[Anonymous No.1698007]

I'm having trouble with the composition and would like some help.

Too many darks, right? If I gave him a big, light collar and light seams down his clothing, would that fix it (separating his body from the arm in the foreground and the cave in the background), or would it it compete with the important subjects (fireball and face)?
Secondly, I feel that staff is not working in the composition. Do you think it's fine or shouldI change it?

[Anonymous No.1698025]

>>1698007
it's fine, if you're going to have a light source in your picture everything else has to be dropped down, otherwise the light won't seem like a light.

[Anonymous No.1698026]

Can I have some help with anatomy using this angle? Any reference is also welcome.
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.1698031]

Is there any major downside about using a photo for copying, relative to copying real life when practicing?

[Anonymous No.1698034]

>>1698026
well I don't think the spine should connect to the left bottom cheek.

[Anonymous No.1698037]

>>1697947
>vilppu drawing manual video cover shading
micheal hampton covers some shading
loomis does too seriously almost every book and video series covers that have you ever watched or read them ?

[Anonymous No.1698038]

Sort of study of today.

[Anonymous No.1698041]

>>1698031
Using a photo should only be applicable if you truly understand the form of what you're looking at.

Think about it. If you are studying a complex form like a fancy table or the figure, you only get the snapshot of the one perspective on the object.

If you do not know the form of the object, in real life: you can tilt your head to see more on either side, you can get up and go look behind it, you can pick it up, study its underside etc. Real life gives you more to work with, but it can be harder for beginners to frame the object and keep it proportionate.

Photos on the other hand, give you a frame and boundaries to relate the object to(proportions). They also provide a static image to meticulously copy, dot for dot, that never move.

[Anonymous No.1698044]

>>1698034
That was quick, this photo will help, thanks.

[Anonymous No.1698049]

>>1698026
I think ive got some ref thats a bit closer to you image(just flip it horizontally)

[Anonymous No.1698052]

>>1698025
Then I'll continue with this. Thanks, anon!

[Anonymous No.1698076]

>>1697846
>What went wrong?

you only drew 3 things. do about 300 and let's see what you come up with.

[Anonymous No.1698078]

>>1697899

[Anonymous No.1698079]

Are there books or scientific texts on what appeals to us in art?

I know about the basic composition rules, rules of thirds, color theory and so on but this still doesn't explain many art works that don't follow these rules. Is there even any research done on this subject?

[Anonymous No.1698092]

>>1698049
I appreciate, friend! This pose is much closer to what I'm trying to design.

[Anonymous No.1698094]

>>1698049
i need more angles, do you have more of this ''ref'' ?

[Anonymous No.1698121]

>>1698094
I do not have more of that particular ref, but I can supply more refs with close to that angle.

[Anonymous No.1698136]

The same guy who did that god awful drawing of a boxer. Just did this one, it's much smaller but is it any better?

Also, is there anyone else from Ireland here? Or is it mostly Americans?

[Anonymous No.1698138]

>>1698136
Shit, forgot the file.

[Anonymous No.1698143]

>>1698121
thx!

[Anonymous No.1698146]

>>1698138
Oh man... have you read the sticky? Check the Betty Edward's book the get your mind away from 2D and instead think things, like eyelids for example, in forms.

I don't know what your previous drawing looked like, but the one I see here is not good at all. But don't let that discourage you, we all were beginners in some point. Just keep studying, sticky has all the resourses and people here are usually helpful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLO7tCdBVrA H

Take this song with you.

[Anonymous No.1698148]

Felling done.

>>1697466
Lovely technique! You are catbib right? I recognize that from one of your sketches (if it is you).

[Anonymous No.1698150]

>>1698148
Is that a beast plate or a bra? Don't give up now, I'd really like to see this a bit more detailed.

[Anonymous No.1698152]

>>1698146
I can do 3D fine when it's abstract i.e. drawing spheres

But I find it pretty hard to apply it to things I'm drawing. What's the basic idea? Curve, shading and perspective?

[Anonymous No.1698153]

>>1698150
Fuck when you say it, I could probably muster out more detail on the bra. Scratch the done part.

[Anonymous No.1698163]

>>1698146
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLO7tCdBVrA

>That remix
AWESOME! But, I wonder if Bob Ross ever drew something other than landscapes.

[Anonymous No.1698171]

After watching Level Up! session with Michal Kus I got into lineart-> render stuff again. I am like 25% done- still working on helmet design,

[Anonymous No.1698174]

I CAN SEE THAT THE ANATOMY IS HORRIBLE, BUT I don't know how to fix it. Any help?

[Anonymous No.1698180]

>>1698152
Form and contour, bro. It's hard to imagine now but when you draw the human body or anything else you gotta break it down to a bunch of shapes.

[Anonymous No.1698188]

>>1698171
I think that really depends man. not to mention the level up dudes are pleb tier.

most books i have read say it's best to study both at the same time vs trying to learn one. A lot of guys with great drawing skills don't know how to approach painting etc..

nice drawing though.

[Anonymous No.1698193]

>>1697666
this is neato

[Anonymous No.1698194]

>>1698174
boobs too high
heads are usually as long as they are tall
angle of the hand seems off, and the thing going on with her pelvis connecting to her hips is weird

[Anonymous No.1698205]

>>1698188
Well I am far from saying LU dudes are Gods, especially when I am not that much interested in illustration, but I just get so much technical knowledge out of their sessions. Also I made a mistake: I didn't mean lineart> render, rather LINEART and then RENDER that lineart. Anyways thanks for a comment anon!

[Anonymous No.1698212]

>>1697773
same here

[Anonymous No.1698226]

>>1697773
>>1698212
I'm 19 but I've been trying to get decent for a few years, I haven't been nearly disciplined enough so I'm still complete fucking garbage

[Anonymous No.1698241]

>>1698226
my problem is sort of the same. im so mother fucking lazy.

but i joined the group on deviant art that recruited people some weeks ago. they have setup where you have to post atleast something for a set time or you get kicked out. and you get score on what you make and stuff. And I plan on keeping up.

My problem is that I dont really know what to work on first. i cant read because I get bored to fast, so i decided to just stick to drawing alot and doing a few exercises once in a while. fuk gramr

[Anonymous No.1698242]

>>1698226
FU! am 28, practicing for 6 months or so...

[Anonymous No.1698244]

>>1698226
>>1698241
It's not that hard to work hard. Sit down, work an hour or two a day. After a month of that it will be habit and it will be easy to add another hour a day. Keep doing that until you are working a number of hours each day.

It helps if you love the process of painting. Maybe try setting up goals such as X finished pieces in Y time. I found that since I've started getting pro work my work ethic has improved since i am held to a more rigid schedule.

[Anonymous No.1698246]

>>1698242
Min Yum started around that age I believe. And Brad Rigney started even later. Still possible for you to make it. Just work hard and don't expect results overnight. It will take at least a few years before you are pro (don't believe the guys who say it only takes 1 or 1.5 years to be pro, it will take you closer to 5 probably).

[Anonymous No.1698254]

>>1698171

[Anonymous No.1698256]

I don't know what the fuck I'm doing

[Anonymous No.1698259]

>>1697493
yeah i agree
>>1697466
thanks buddy
>>1697520
thanks for the input and the paintover, i appreciate it
>>1697540
yeah it's me. i tried the glowy eyes thing but i wasnt really feeling it. i don't really like the picture as a whole but it was worth it spending the time working it out and learning how to do stuff better next time
>>1697582
it's a chalk brush from one of the default photoshop sets
>>1698148
thanks, yeah it was from that sketch

[Anonymous No.1698261]

>>1698254
Goddamn you make design look so easy.

[Anonymous No.1698278]

>>1698244
I'm not good at working hard, I'm really trying to get drawing down to a daily thing, but I fall off really easily. I do like painting a lot, but I get frustrated because I'm not good.
Can you give some more advice, on just, how to get over that hump of 'I can't do it', to where I can just draw and practice without caring?

[Anonymous No.1698285]

>>1698261
Design is hard, the anon that designed had a much better pose which gave the impression of a hulking diving suit. I wasn't able to capture that so much. both me and the anon kinda drew the helmet as an after thought, but I really do like the chest piece.

[Anonymous No.1698298]

>>1698254
>>1698285
I love these!

mine exercise blah 1hour of scribbling.

[Anonymous No.1698304]

>>1698278
You are going to die one day, would you really want to waste your time on fapping and tv instead of mastering something that you enjoy?

[Anonymous No.1698307]

>>1698278
The only way to get good is to paint. Don't care about the result, just focus on the process. If something looks wrong, fix it. Don't leave things messed up that you know the solution to. Patience is important. You probably won't be able to knock out amazing paintings quickly yet. It will take hours for it to look acceptable. That's fine. it will take years before your work is decent looking overall. Accept it. And paint. Work on good observation, and don't forget to practice drawing without reference, no matter how ugly the results. Don't bother posting anything online while you're beginning. Try to bring it to a mediocre level first. Before that point people can't comment meaningfully since you need to work on everything, and all it will do is discourage you.

[Anonymous No.1698308]

>>1698194
Thanks for the pointers.

[Anonymous No.1698309]

[Anonymous No.1698314]

>>1698254
original drawing anon here- love your drawing man! gonnas push my design more, thanks for that!

[Anonymous No.1698321]

>>1698246
Min Yum's that old? Huh. For some reason never thought about Min's age, always assumed they were the usual early 20s type artists. You give me hope anon.

[Anonymous No.1698326]

>>1697666
hurts my eyes like a motherfucker

nothing else negative to say

[Anonymous No.1698407]

>>1697892
Just as I'd given up all hope that anime had been lost to slice-of-life teen schoolgirl 'comedies' with seedy pedophilic undertones, they make a motherfucking JoJo's Bizarre Adventure series that becomes a breakout hit and gets a massive animation budget injection for the new season.

Hope restored.

[Anonymous No.1698408]

>>1698321
I think he was 24 or so when he started getting serious. Not that it matters. Everyone's journey is different. Hard to predict if and when mastery will be achieved.
I've certainly wasted time comparing ages and being worried if I'm following some magical model of development that 'real' artists follow. Stupid.

Posting art cause I'm tired of being afraid to do so. Something else I need to work on. Hey /ic/.

[Anonymous No.1698426]

>>1698150
I need to sleep, but I managed to get a few details in.

[Anonymous No.1698430]

>>1698150
I did a few details, but I need to sleep and move on. Thanks for pushing me.

[Anonymous No.1698433]

>>1698408
Not bad anon, but the pose can be reworked for better story telling. The gun and arm is like perfectly aligned within the silhouette of his body/leg. Take a look at this: http://www.floobynooby.com/IPUB/m02_Silhouette02.jpg

Also ask yourself why he is carrying that gun, why is it dripping liquid, what just happened/is about to happen? etc etc

I'd also grab some ref of sunsets for help with the colours as right now I don't find it very believable.

[Anonymous No.1698438]

>>1697892
>implying Tengen Toppa Gurren Laggan wasn't in times better than this.
>implying this isn't a watered down version of TTGL with more tits and less story and character development.
>implying that there aren't great anime series after y2k
For an aged man ,you sure know a little for the thing you claim to like.
And Im not even from /a/ Im just a casual.

[Anonymous No.1698440]

>>1698408
He's currently 34, so started sometime in his mid or late 20's. I remember seeing posts from him in like 2006 or so that were of /ic/ quality.

[Anonymous No.1698441]

>>1698430
Face > tits.
Don't get duped by virgin ass suckers.

[Anonymous No.1698446]

>>1698433
Ah good crit. Thanks man.

Colors actually were ref'd from a mullins piece but I guess I did a shoddy job hah.

[Anonymous No.1698453]

>>1698438
TTGL would have been much better

If it wasn't for the second arc

[Anonymous No.1698460]

he is something of a second try to draw digitally.

(ignore the edge.)

can someone say if it is able to pratice further with this (if I should search a rendering tutorial or use this black and white as occlusion for painting training) or is wrong in a essential level.

[Anonymous No.1698470]

>>1698441
this man i never understood why people put so much emphais on ass or tits vs face.

shit face = 4/10 even if 10/10 anatomy structure.

[Anonymous No.1698498]

Please give me any tips or pointers in order to improve

Thx

[Anonymous No.1698499]

>>1697439
pretty.

[Anonymous No.1698503]

>>1698007
Done. The purple is obnoxious, isn't it? Not gonna touch it for a while though.

[Anonymous No.1698506]

>>1698503
just desaturate it some and it will be so much better

[Anonymous No.1698510]

>>1697601
>>1697630


Thanks for the crit, tried to do some sketches of horses ill do a couple of drawings later on.

draftsmanship or doing a nice looking drawing or sketch is my achilles heel.

[Anonymous No.1698538]

do a study on your face to let you know you should shave and not look like a hobo.
Should do more of those sadly there are no lifedrawing classes.And Im not exactly inlove with my own mug as to paint it constantly.

[Anomynus No.1698569]

First female figure I've ever done, how am I doing?

Not really trying to recreate the face, just trying to get shit on the paper mostly.

>it's Venus in case you're retarded

[Anomynus No.1698572]

>>1698569

thumb

[Anonymous No.1698573]

>>1698569
well your lying skills aren't quite up to par with your drawing skills.

looked 10x better in first post.

[Anomynus No.1698576]

>>1698573

What? They're two separate drawings, the first is the thumb I did before I started the larger one.

[Anonymous No.1698581]

>>1698576
o ok.

[Anomynus No.1698584]

>>1698581

I mean I guess if you count a shitty thumbnail sketch, it's not my first female figure.

And thanks...? I think...?

[Anomynus No.1698587]

>>1698576

Wait fuck the second one is the thumbnail.

[Anonymous No.1698589]

I'm stuck already -__-' Don't know what to do now I got the sketch.

[Anonymous No.1698600]

>>1698589
well first off anon your composition is incredibbly boring.

but from doing a qucik sketch like you did here typically i would begin to look for reference. sometimes if i already have a brief i will do that first.

But for personal work sketch than i look for ref.

your rocks feel too soft and not enough cool rock looking.

your figure looks pretty dumb up there by himself. check out 300 for some inspiration. on cliff dinamics .
i don't know what else to say other than maybe do some landscape studies and paint outside from life. and keep up your fundementals as right now it looks pretty bad.

- we have all been there though anon.

[Anonymous No.1698611]

I have a tight deadline for this and so I'm experimenting with mixing photos and painting. I'll paint over it all and make it look pretty for the final, but any feedback on the composition and such so far would be appreciated.

[Anonymous No.1698616]

>>1698611
feels pretty static. i feel the crop is a bad choice as well. at this point it's hard to tell what your going for though it might work for your client.

[Conmana No.1698617]

Experiment

Trying to push rendering and "painting" together

rather I want to break away from over rendering

[Conmana No.1698619]

>>1698538
no life drawing classes
scrunchy neck pubes
I know those problems
I know them well

[Anonymous No.1698621]

>>1698617
well i think that is a great goal. i think it has a lot to do with brush economy and getting the base tones right the first go around.

Though from looking at your work "i follow you on tumblr" i think overrendering isn't really a concern for you as most of your work on there looks very unfished and sketches.

your work on DA such as that halo mc study you did. has a lot of issues. though you pushed the rendering aspect you failed to get the right forms and tones in the right spot and giving too much detail to certain parts that should have been played down giving it an uncanny feeling.

This study looks pretty good though i have no idea how long you put into it.

[Anonymous No.1698626]

>>1698617

Looks pretty good /ic/ god.

[Anonymous No.1698631]

>>1698626
don't even start that scrub. if Commana is the god of ic than im the god of the universe...

[Anonymous No.1698637]

>>1698626
congrats on being the hugest faggot in existence.

[Anonymous No.1698647]

>>1698626
Anyone else think that might be a typo? Pretty good, /ic/ good?

>>1698616
Well the static is ok I think since he's just standing still, though will need to work on making the flying raven look like it's moving. The crop's giving me a bunch of trouble yeah, can't decide how much space to have around him.

[Anonymous No.1698649]

>>1698408
sup olly, why is your site down?

[Anonymous No.1698657]

>>1698649
That's not Olly...

[Anonymous No.1698658]

>>1698205
yeah i agree with you that there knowledge and tricks in photoshop are helpful. but again im going to have to disagree with you doing a nice line art and painting it in is precisely what im talking about a lot of artist get wrong.

- i suggest checking out oil painting techniques and materials - by: Harold speed.

[Anonymous No.1698677]

>>1698658
Got a pdf of that?

[Anonymous No.1698680]

>>1698677
i don't think a pdf of that one exist but it's realitvely cheap on amazon.

[Anonymous No.1698689]

>>1698680
>having money
I'm not that good yet

[Anonymous No.1698697]

>>1697421
Sorry for the shitty photo it's from my phone.

[Anonymous No.1698699]

[Anonymous No.1698700]

>>1697520
>your paintover and ideas are pitiful
i dont even know if troll or not

[Anonymous No.1698702]

>>1698600
Maybe good that I didn't know how to continue, so I didn't waste time on a bad sketch.
I live in a quite mountainous place, so it's a shame I couldn't even get the rocks right, but on the plus side there's a lot of study material around.

Looked up 300, found a scene where they push some guys over a cliff. God, I had never seen something from that movie, are all scenes like that? Kinda over the top, isn't it?

>we have all been there though anon.
That's strangely motivating, thanks. I'll do studies and keep trying.

[Anonymous No.1698703]

>>1698697
Also, this was just a quick drawing (maybe 10 minutes) of an idea I've been kicking around about John C. Reilly being a 40's-50's noire detective. I did a quick lay in of his face from a reference and then set up the lighting myself as well as added the fedora.
The drawing is 12 inches across and about 10 inches tall.

[Anonymous No.1698734]

Rate me.

[Anonymous No.1698752]

>>1698734
Blows/10.

[Anonymous No.1698778]

shit's hard

[Anonymous No.1698785]

>>1698617

looks neat man. i dont think the drop in saturation in the shadows looks very nice, but you captured the forms and proportions very very well. much better than me atleast.

did the same study a long time ago and my anatomy was painfully wonky.

[Anonymous No.1698789]

>>1698617
gotta fix your hands, they look like different sizes. other than that it's coming along.

[Anonymous No.1698802]

I regret neglecting my landscape skills. Study time.

[Anonymous No.1698805]

I made this one just now, can I get feedback?
I've never drawn cloth before so I thought it was about time I tried.

[Anonymous No.1698848]

>>1698805
I like it.

[Anonymous No.1698861]

>>1698658
thing is, artists like Jaime Jones who can start with very loose scribbles are excellent draughtsmen. They skip the lineart process because they have the experience to do so. If a beginner tries to emulate their loose workflow, he won't be able to establish all those spacial relations, perspective, anatomy, form etc in his head without lineart.

Jaime could very easily do a great looking drawing of some forest scene with a rider on a horse, hence he can paint that scene without starting with a tight drawing. So before you start painting something loosely, ask yourself if you COULD draw it tightly if you wanted to. If the answer is no, your painting will inevitably end up looking like crap.

[Anonymous No.1698868]

>>1697492
sweet pillow shading, brah

[Anonymous No.1698870]

>>1698805
looks like plastic

[Anonymous No.1698875]

>>1698861
well i don't know man i still feel that a loose drawing "but still accurate in proportion and gesture"than letting the brush describe the proper form through tone / color and edges is the best method to approach a painting.

vs spending tons of time drawing out a perfect line drawing and than coloring it in like a coloring book approach. which is similar to how i first learned.

though it really comes down to taste. i think drawing on it't own is great. but you can't approach painting like how approach drawing.. well you can but the result tend to be rather dull.

[Anonymous No.1698876]

i need some help with the pelvis

[Anonymous No.1698877]

>>1698876
Why I though the pelvis was supposed to look like you shoved a salad bowl inside a person.

[Anonymous No.1698895]

can someone help me develop his face a bit more? i feel like there's something off or missing, like the colours or some junk.

[Anonymous No.1698897]

>>1697421

[Anonymous No.1698924]

>>1698895
The construction is broken, face is kind of lopsided on the right side. I looks like his jaw is caving in. (Thats the best I can help with anon, sorry.) Good luck fixing it.

[Anonymous No.1698926]

lwa

[Anonymous No.1698932]

>>1698924
alright, thanks!

[Anonymous No.1698987]

>>1697421
a dude, started thinking of him as some kind of french deep sea diver..from the future!

[Anonymous No.1698989]

>>1698138

I'm from Ireland. There's a few of us hanging around.

[Anonymous No.1699003]

Study. Does anybody else feel most comfortable with a pen and copy paper?

[Anonymous No.1699012]

How do I make this less bad?

[Anonymous No.1699023]

>>1698441
Ok mate, I will look into the female face in next pieces, thanks for paintover.

>>1698470
I don't want to start anything but I prefer hips and thighs.

The breasts in this was mostly based on that image of George Kamitani using fertility idols as bases for necromancers.

[Anonymous No.1699028]

>>1699012
Make it wallpaper size so I can use as wallpaper.

[Anonymous No.1699029]

>>1698987
done, for now anyway.

[Anonymous No.1699031]

What do you guys think about the composition and the values right now?
I plan on adding more middle values

[Anonymous No.1699051]

quick study

[Anonymous No.1699101]

[Anonymous No.1699115]

>>1699031
I feel like you should either have something large in the foreground like a tree or another person (to the left), or just let the rocks be further away.

[Anonymous No.1699213]

when I check this thread I always question, why is the old oekaki board such a no men land? there is abunch of people wanting to interact with their basic skills, so why no one pratice together there?

[Anomynus No.1699219]

>>1699213

Probably because that board is absolute garbage.

[Anonymous No.1699229]

I'm trying to convey depth with a change in hue and contrast but it didn't work out as well as I'd have liked...

[Anonymous No.1699231]

I'm trying the whole not-using-size-pressure thing with a study.

Any tips or pointers so far?

[Anomynus No.1699232]

feedback please

Shit tier camera phone, sorry

[Anonymous No.1699235]

>>1699231
The shading of the law(right below the ear) and the can seems a bot strange to me.

[Anonymous No.1699236]

>>1699232
Very nice. The width between the two eyes seems a tiny bit wide, though.

[Anomynus No.1699243]

>>1699236

Thanks, looking at the thumb I can see that the left eye is a little too far left.

[gabe No.1699246]

i'd love some feedback on this wip

thx guys

[Anonymous No.1699248]

>>1699246
This is great. I love the bulging of the hand tendons.

If I was to criticise one thing, it would be the multiple light sources on some of the background eggs. Or is that on purpose?

[Anonymous No.1699255]

>>1699246
it's pretty damn great
if anything the both eggs he's holding feel a little flat, the one in his right hand looks a bit like a cardboard cutout that's floating behind his hand

[gabe No.1699256]

>>1699248
>>1699255
thx a lot for noticing that guys ! fixing it

[Anonymous No.1699263]

I want to make my art better
this still looks like shit to me
too cartoony?
I need to refine more
put more hours in but
I'm worried that I'm overlooking mistakes and heading in a totally wrong direction
what do

[Anonymous No.1699267]

[Anonymous No.1699268]

>>1699263
I really like how you painted the face, but you need to work on edge control. Right now everything is fuzzy and blurry. Work on getting some hard edges in there!

[Anonymous No.1699270]

>>1699263
Doesn't look bad at all if a tad blurry and out of focus overall, maybe some more saturation.

No need to beat yourself up when there's plenty of people here willing to do it for you.

[Anonymous No.1699272]

>>1699267
Trying to think of not-boring clothes.

[Anonymous No.1699278]

>>1697421

[Anonymous No.1699283]

>>1697421
Experimenting with colour.
Be honest: does this even look like a sea ?

[Anonymous No.1699286]

>>1699283
Looks like Mountain Dew

[Anonymous No.1699288]

>>1699286
If it looks like a sea of Mountain Dew, then that'd be fine for me. :3

[Anonymous No.1699292]

>>1699283
I like it. I think you should add colors that arnt there to make it look less bland. Look close to what you want it to be.

[Anonymous No.1699298]

>>1699288
Keighley pls

[Anonymous No.1699307]

>>1699263
grab some reference certain details look really flat. as others said a bit blurry as well.

you could push the form / realism a bit but still keep the sylized feel. not too toony imo.

[Anonymous No.1699312]

>>1698697
Better photo from the studio this morning.

[Anonymous No.1699318]

>>1699307
dis is reference
cannot find higher-quality version of the film image but just really liked the actress's expression & could not resist trying to make a nicer portrait version

[Anonymous No.1699322]

>>1699318
ah so it's a study. kind of interesting picture actually even because it's blurred.

i remember someone saying that veermer would do painting using a camera obscura device or something and it gave it a similar blurred look

cool stuff man.

[Anonymous No.1699352]

>>1697666
kawaii uguu eyes on the right wall.

[Anonymous No.1699353]

>Im stuck.

Send Help

It's a picture of an oil painting that I altered I painted over in PS

[Anonymous No.1699357]

>>1698453
Second arc was good man, just watch the movie. Ill agree the series arc was drawn out.

[Anonymous No.1699386]

shieet

[Anonymous No.1699403]

>>1699386
I'm a fucking pleb, but from what i know I think you should add some atmospheric look, maybe bring some dark color to that near rock.

still the thumbnail read good as a warm sunset

[Anonymous No.1699405]

I don't know what I'm doing

[Anonymous No.1699406]

>>1699386
>>1699403
Agreed, you could soften the edges in the background, and put more contrast into the foreground.Colors look good

[Anonymous No.1699427]

>>1699405
Apples don't have a brown aura, you need to put more time and make more analysis about the ref before letting your brain memory destroy all the accuracy

[Anonymous No.1699428]

>>1699427
>Apples don't have a brown aura

[Anonymous No.1699435]

>>1699427
wut

[Anonymous No.1699438]

>>1699427

Ah took me a second to figure out what you where talking about. At first I thought you meant the brown shading at the bottom which didnt make sense to me. But I get what you mean, the brown outline. I did it as a stylistic choice but I get where you are coming from. I'll continue working on not being a faggot

[FiRez !!tndrCZJHE+I No.1699464]

>>1697440
Nice concept, I like your colours.

>>1698699
Love the lightning

>>1698926
Endearing stuff

>>1699405
I've found that dark blue-ish hues work well in the shadow area of apples.

[Anonymous No.1699468]

Trying to add more detail to designs, while trying not to suck at perspective.

How we doin?

[Anonymous No.1699472]

>>1698256
Buy the ctrl-paint vid on rendering, its worthi it.

[Anonymous No.1699476]

play this game ,losers !

[Anonymous No.1699477]

>>1699353
it's flat.

[Anonymous No.1699479]

>>1698256
watch the vids on ctrl-paint maybey buy the rendering one, it sure helped me.

[Anonymous No.1699481]

>>1699438
yeah dude your apple is looking good so far - just keep chopping / shaping at the edges with the bg color on a medium opacity/hardish brush (if you are not sure) and/or hard eraser

remember shape does not have to be held in those lines (the "Aura")

[Anonymous No.1699482]

>>1699476
find myself questioning dimensions in consideration to the figures on the paper... are you planning on scaling this down? if so, the two on the bottom may lose a ton of detail / focus if you don't even out the layout a bit

[Anonymous No.1699485]

Making a modernized version of this guy.
Critics and tips?

[Anonymous No.1699486]

>>1698611
Unless the raven is the focus he's a bit overrendered. The photo backdrop works but try to draw less attention to the edges by reducing the sharpenss there and bring the focus more into the face.

[Anonymous No.1699489]

>>1698611
you need to make the background less texturized / obviously filtered. maybe lower the contrast on the image before you edit it, and try to minimize so it matches the rest of the painting/edit (flat colors, less textures). perhaps play around with "reduce noise" instead.

[Anonymous No.1699494]

>>1699485
He looks a little too buff. I picture this character much more of a mead drinking, drumstick eating fat slob that's fierce in battle.

>>1699468
This doesn't suck at all! I think it's an awesome design. You should render it in photoshop or SAI soon!

>>1699386
I love dem strokes. If i had to critique this, i'd say make it more interesting to look at. It's a little boring and doesn't evoke much feeling.

>>1699353
It's pre flat. Watch your values and maybe add some characters in for reference?

>>1699312
very nice, but your smudging sort of ruins it. Try using stomps instead of using your fingers/qtips/whatever you were using. Clean it up!!

>>1699229
pencil crayons can be a little tough to get hues right. Just keep drawing dem frogs. This one looks great, i'm sure the photo/scan doesn't help though.

>>1699031
Nice composition and values, but.. it's a little boring? Give it some charm, add something fun

>>1698611
fucking rad.

[Anonymous No.1699495]

>>1698611
Pls can I have your skill.

[Anonymous No.1699500]

>>1699495
nigga no he blatantly is painting over gandalf's arm

are you high

[Anonymous No.1699507]

>>1699494
can this trend please die?

if you're going to critique someone's work put some fucking effort into it.

> If i had to critique this, i'd say make it more interesting to look at. It's a little boring and doesn't evoke much feeling.

SERIOUSLY, what the fuck is this shit? is this really how low /ic/ has fallen?

[Anonymous No.1699510]

>>1699229
frog dude is my dawg. keep drawin them frogs

[Anonymous No.1699511]

>>1699507
it's regurgitating shit said in other draw threads to make himself seem like he knows what he's talking about just ignore and try to make critiques in your skill level

[Anonymous No.1699513]

>>1699507
relax it's just one person's reply; i'm sure they had good intentions

[Anonymous No.1699516]

[Anonymous No.1699517]

>>1699481

I actually added them after haha. But thank you so much for the feedback, I rarely get any so I really appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.1699518]

i can never make circles
anyone got tips on circles
how do i make them ROUND

[Anonymous No.1699524]

>>1699516
en taro adun executor

[Anonymous No.1699526]

>>1699464

Hey thanks ! I'll definitely have to try that. This is a redone one I did without the brown aura. But I'll try out the blue tones.

[Anonymous No.1699527]

>>1699526
paint the whole thing on its context, so you dont have to struggle with the light point.
Also, work on your values

[Anonymous No.1699528]

Jesus CHRIST I have improved from last year.
This was my last drawing I did before this. Like few months ago, december something.
Jesus, I don't know how.

>>1699494
But I wanted him to look more muscular fat build.

[Anonymous No.1699530]

Jesus CHRIST I have improved from last year.
This was my last drawing I did before this. Like few months ago, december something.
Jesus, I don't know how.

>>1699494
But I wanted him to look more muscular fat build.

[Anonymous No.1699531]

Jesus CHRIST I have improved from last year.
This was my last drawing I did before this. Like few months ago, december something.
Jesus, I don't know how.

>>1699494
But I wanted him to look more muscular fat build.

[Anonymous No.1699539]

Pretentious garbage.

[Anonymous No.1699553]

>>1699539
so wet and cold out here

[Anonymous No.1699569]

I've been practicing with color recently, any critique would be appreciated.

[Anonymous No.1699568]

Going through Loomis.
This is the best head I've ever drawn.

[Anonymous No.1699570]

>>1699568
Here's to the day when you look back at this head and think it's shit.

You're on your way anon keep at it.

[Anonymous No.1699575]

Hot hot heat.

[Anonymous No.1699576]

>>1699568
That's mighty fine, man.
Keep up the good stuff.

[Anonymous No.1699596]

Absolute beginner here, when should I transition to using photoshop like you guys and what's the best cheap drawpad you guys use?

[Anonymous No.1699602]

Hello /ic/.
Dropping by to say keep improving and keep inspiring each other to be better. You guys can do it.

[Anonymous No.1699604]

>>1699286
>>1699292
Thanks for the encouragement. Don't manage to make it look more sea-like, so gonna stop.
Some day I'll be able to paint anything.

[Anonymous No.1699611]

>>1699596
Start using Photoshop for fun doodles already, so you get used to working with it.

[Anonymous No.1699635]

>>1699604
too green, doesn't match the sky. fix that, and it would.

[Anonymous No.1699639]

>>1699635
My goal was to use weird colours and still make it look real, I failed, so now I gotta get better and then try again.

[Anonymous No.1699651]

>>1699639
I think you should paint it normally and make it look real. Once you can do that, then start experimenting wildly.

[Anonymous No.1699664]

[that guy who made the tutorial No.1699700]

>>1698138
Ohai boxerbro, it looks alot better, still need to work on the apendages and the head as theres alot of subtle detail in constructing those, for Head's take a look at proko

This is much better than the last one. The key here is your proportions are much closer to being correct, there's still too many glaring issues to give a specific critique but you've made alot of progress.
Also
>/k/, pls

[that guy who made the tutorial No.1699701]

>>1699476
It that Super Contramon Fighter 4?

[that guy who made the tutorial No.1699702]

>>1699569
It's nice but a bit flat, this seems to be a common problem, too little contrast, darker Darks and Brighter lights give the image more depth.

[Anonymous No.1699715]

>>1699701
>>1699702
Pardon the tripfagging :I

[Anonymous No.1699719]

>>1699664
good attempt, i like these little paintings for some reason. they seem to be a natural mode of expression, here's one by me.

[Anonymous No.1699748]

So I am attempting to learn how to digitally paint and render, and so far I am shit. I especially can't seem t keep scale in mind - I'll draw something that looks fine zoomed in, then I'll zoom out and it looks terrible.
I assume i'll get better with practice, but do you digital technomancers have any advice/guides/techniques/anything to speed the process?

[Anonymous No.1699764]

dont remember her eyes color, so now its blue

[Anonymous No.1699765]

>>1699748
Try doing a piece or two zoomed out (reasonably) without zooming in at all.

Issues like that usually come from jumping from detail to detail more than looking at the thing as a whole, you end up with parts better than the sum or parts not meshing with each other.

I've been having the same problems and I tend to fight them by just keeping everything in the view and zooming in to work the details only when completely, absolutely, unquestionably required and the more I do it the less I find myself requiring it.

[Anonymous No.1699768]

[Anonymous No.1699771]

hours of work into this and it still looks messy

[Anonymous No.1699789]

>>1699602
Neat. Kind of get a Dresden Codak vibe from this, but, you know, way better.

[Anonymous No.1699799]

>>1699771
And that's why working from a photograph is not good.

[Anonymous No.1699814]

>>1699386
thick, solid, tight.

[Anonymous No.1699818]

i think i'm starting to get better at rocks.

[Anonymous No.1699826]

going back to digital after months only drawing with pencil.

[Anonymous No.1699827]

Help with proportions ?

[Anonymous No.1699830]

>>1699827

[Anonymous No.1699832]

>>1699826
That's a large, wide, cranium dude, looks like an ancient greek or roman version of the hulk. neck like a tree trunk to boot.

reads pretty well though and it's coming along.

[Anonymous No.1699833]

quick values splatt and started to rendering

photo from referance thread

any advices or do you see any mistakes in current wip?

[Anonymous No.1699837]

>>1699827
Ideally you should get your proportions correct before you start painting, but that's just me I focus on drawing before all else. Shoulders are too wide I think that's whats really throwing everything off. Also I'm assuming you are going to bring the hair further out? Because right now it doesn't look right for how big the skull should be. Also the eyes appear a bit too large.

Other than that push your shading more, the cast shadow on the neck from the face isn't big enough or dark enough and throw down the highlight on the top of the shoulder, it will help a bit with defining your light source, also put down the highlight on the nose and the little dark crease where the lips end in the cheek.

Also, looking at the thumbs should help you notice these a bit better than looking at the images full size.

[Anonymous No.1699840]

>>1699832
Thanks dude, heres the ref

[Anonymous No.1699843]

>>1699837
Thank you for the advice !!
You're right about the hair, i'm painting in oil and i was wondering if i should paint the background first before working more on the hair.
About her eyes is there something wrong with them besides the size ? Something seems a bit odd but i can't tell what it is.

[Anonymous No.1699849]

>>1699843
Well there are a few other things, first off right now they are just symbols of eyes... they are very flat and you've got nothing to show us that they are actually spheres set into an eye socket. So putting in stuff like the eyelid and some more shading will help. Also you'll notice that there's actually a shadow on her eyes cast by her brow and the bottom of her eyeballs are lighter than the tops. The whole thing looks pretty drab too, you gotta breath some more life into it with some more saturated colors.

>>1699840
I'm not entirely sure but on first glance I think my idea that your painting looks like the hulk is because the facial features seem to have shrunk slightly compared to your ref, the nose and eyes are just slightly too small, but also your jaw line as it comes off the ear needs to drop lower before coming forward, i think that's the main thing you could do to help it out is to reshape the jaw along the right side of the drawing a bit and make the angle of it on the left side a little more steep. nice ref btw gonna swipe it, love me some sculpture.

[Anonymous No.1699851]

>>1699849
>not even mentioning that they eyes are like TWO EYEWIDTHS APART

[Anonymous No.1699862]

>>1699849
Thanks a lot, I gotta admit that I lost my focus in some shapes and you are right almost all the features in the face are shrunk

[Anonymous No.1699864]

>>1699849
>>1699851
I just put some color in there i didn't worry about the detail because i felt that something bigger was off, like... JESUS FUCKING CHRIST look at the distance between the eyes

[Anonymous No.1699865]

>>1699851
you're right about them being a bit far apart, especially when the slight bit of perspective comes into play due to the fact that her head is turned slightly, but hyperbole doesn't make your point very well.

[Anonymous No.1699866]

Is the distance fixed ?

[Anonymous No.1699903]

A self portrait. It still looks a little off to me tho.

[Anonymous No.1699907]

Master study. About half an hour in.

[Anonymous No.1699910]

halp pls

[Anonymous No.1699911]

[Anonymous No.1699922]

I didn't expect to do a background but I did anyways. It doesn't look so good.

[Anonymous No.1699933]

>>1699903
Paint it from a mirror next time; you'll learn a lot more.

[Anonymous No.1699952]

>>1699903

post your face. pretty girls who draw are my fetish.

[Anonymous No.1699964]

>>1699933
I used a mirror last time, it ended up like this. I was using a photo reference this time.
>>1699952
Thanks, but I'm just here for art critique.

[Anonymous No.1699982]

>>1699964
your mirror one is clearly better. That's your point though right?

[Anonymous No.1699987]

>>1699982
I wanted to get a bit outside of my comfort zone....that doesn't always mean better....

[gabe No.1699988]

>>1699256
done i think. is it to dark on your screens ?

[Anonymous No.1700012]

some knight design

[Anonymous No.1700013]

>>1699910
Cross eyed/10

[Anonymous No.1700017]

hey /ic/ trying to get out of my comfort zone, give me some ideas for things to draw.

[Anonymous No.1700020]

>>1700017
a butt

[Anonymous No.1700055]

how is shading and anatomy?

[Anonymous No.1700058]

>>1700017
dicks

[Anonymous No.1700069]

>>1700013
Yeah I guess I can see that a bit, but it can be an easy fix. Anything else I could work on to improve it? I'm not really done yet but I'm nearing the end for sure.

[Anonymous No.1700073]

>>1700055
Work more on forms, proportions. Shading is a bit soft. Use some hard edged shading.

[Anonymous No.1700079]

>>1700073
Okay thank you, will do. How do people work on getting rid of fuzzy/soft shading, just pure practice?

[Anonymous No.1700090]

>>1700079
being confident in your forms will allow you to shade confidently. you'll know where to put shadows and won't have the uncertain pillow shading.

[Anonymous No.1700426]

>>1699866
Updating , fixed the shoulder .

[Anonymous No.1700499]

>tfw just started drawing like 4 days ago
Reading up on drawing on the right side of the brain and god damn, reading these threads and that book is like discovering a whole new world.

Also coming from /fit/ I find it odd how helpful and experienced a lot of you are, compared to that board

[Anonymous No.1700556]

>>1700499
>helpful
>/ic/

*snicker*

[Anonymous No.1701247]

>>1699922
That's nice. Site/DA/Tblr?

[Anonymous No.1702059]

>>1699988
Not dark on mine, assuming you wanted a half silhouetted spider, looks pretty good