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[FiRez !!tndrCZJHE+I No.1695038]

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>>1692938

Post your current drawing here and give constructive critiques to others!
Please make sure your posted image is clear and is under 1500 x 1500 pixels in size.
If you want critique on a drawing from the previous thread, you can delete it there and repost in this one.

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[Anonymous No.1695060]

$$ painting toilet paper for practice $$

[Anonymous No.1695069]

>>1695068
ref

[Anonymous No.1695068]

doing some skin tones, trying to basically do sth I could call 'exercise'

[Anonymous No.1695074]

>>1695069
I'd just say you are afraid of contrast
nice overall

[Anonymous No.1695083]

[Anonymous No.1695091]

a-am i beginning to improve, /ic/?

[Anonymous No.1695092]

God i fucking suck

[Anonymous No.1695094]

>>1695091
Not really.

Centering the eyes in the middle of the head is always useful. Its a great rule to stick to.

Dont draw faces exactly centered, it encourages flat drawing and hurts you early on. learn some basic face contruction and you'll improve a shit ton overnight mah nigger.

A lot of times people draw the lips centered between the nose and the chin, sometimes tatorials even tell you too. it looks better if the center is acually the bottom of the lips. It can be centered sometimes in real life but it usually looks better if the part of the face above the lips isn't too long.

Try and draw the hair as a single mass and then adding little details like individual strands later. Some people like to separate it into 4 masses like sides bangs. top, back etc but overall you'll want to simplify hair, add the light dark values and then draw in the little details like strands later.

Also, when you practice drawing the head from different angles the ears are a very very useful reference for showing where the head is facing in 3d space.

Overall just try and draw the head as an actual 3d object rather then a flat thing like you're drawing suggests. next time you draw a head try and picture in your mind an actual floating 3d head, it'll be incredibly hard at first but it's the best thing to improve; and yea, anime does all these things too.

[H.A.B No.1695101]

thinking of doing a tarot card deck. any ideas and crits on this?

[Anonymous No.1695102]

>>1695068
It needs more deep reds for it's shading. Don't be afraid to push the values more than you're used to. It's just an exercise right? So push the value limits to where you feel uncomfortable with.

[Anonymous No.1695113]

>>1695094
Thanks for the detailed feedback.

I actually constructed the head using Loomis' ball and plane method. Here's one I did which isn't entirely centered.

But yeah, I've always had issues thinking three-dimensionally. Gotta work on that I guess.

[Anonymous No.1695114]

Got back to work on this.

Thinking about making it into some kind of fake WWII propaganda poster.

[Anonymous No.1695152]

technique experiment

[Anonymous No.1695153]

>>1695068
you need to forget about details and paint the whole picture

it's obvious you're getting lost in the tiny details without thinking about how it makes a full picture

try painting with the biggest brush you can use, I guarantee it will help

[Anonymous No.1695163]

>>1695152
if the experiment was to put the ear too low you succeeded.

[Anonymous No.1695165]

Fucking horses

[Anonymous No.1695167]

>>1695165
it won't get any better no matter how many times you post this turd

[Anonymous No.1695184]

>>1695165
>graph paper

that paper is meant for graphs anon, not drawing.

[Anonymous No.1695188]

>>1695167
The original drawing from where i traced that turd took me 6 hours. I drew it using my personal technique, i call it the "i never went to art school" technique.

[Anonymous No.1695190]

>>1695188
>traced
I almost threw my keyboard at my cat

[Anonymous No.1695191]

>>1695163
not that guy, but your wit is defeated by your lack of understanding of perspective

[Anonymous No.1695197]

>>1695190
Its fair to trace your own work, right?

[Anonymous No.1695200]

>>1695188
Ah good, because art schools don't give refunds.

[Anonymous No.1695202]

>>1695191
You need to stop posting

[Anonymous No.1695207]

portrait study.The refference was from a youtube video with a very bleak washed out colors.But I liked her face so I kinda went a bit too vivid.It was a fun one nonetheless.

[Anonymous No.1695212]

>>1695114
Nice. The line on the left side of the mouth seems to be at the wrong angle, but good job other than that.
I'm so excited for the new capt. America movie, are you? I read the reviews so far and they're really good

[Anonymous No.1695215]

Started out as a doodle to test the brushes.

[Anonymous No.1695217]

>>1695215
damn those are some huge titties

[Anonymous No.1695219]

>>1695217
Which is why it started as a doodle.

[Anonymous No.1695226]

>>1695224

[Anonymous No.1695224]

Designing some gundams

[Anonymous No.1695229]

>>1695226
i also liked Front Mission

[Anonymous No.1695238]

>>1695226

Is that nineballs folded grenade launcher?

[Anonymous No.1695258]

>>1695212
Realised the face was somewhat off. Spent time reworking it. Better or worse?

Regarding Cap 2: I'm a Britfag, it's been out here for a week. Saw it yesterday, which is what prompted me to paint Cap.

It's a really solid Hollywood blockbuster. Very entertaining. Action's great. Plot moves along at a good clip and has some great twists and turns. At points it really feels like Metal Gear Solid with Cap in the place of Snake.

Also holy shit the movie version of Falcon is awesome.

[FiRez !!tndrCZJHE+I No.1695259]

>>1695060
Did you want to study something specific here?

>>1695038
Try to think in a more spatial way, imagine your creature from different angles and actions, the teeth should curve around

Your palette and brush work is interesting though

>>1695101
I think the mask could be more properly aligned to the face. Check the lower part of his body, seems a bit too small.

>>1695114
Nice, the colours seems a bit too vivid for a propaganda poster though

>>1695207
I like your brush work/economy.

>>1695224
>>1695226
Lovely.


I started blocking this one using the envelope method, tried to use linework only but I love values too much. I also spend too much time on her face.

[Anonymous No.1695262]

>>1695259
Oh awesome I finally see you do a full figure, keep it up...you've improved, just the inspiration I needed.

[Anonymous No.1695263]

>>1695197

Yes. It can help clean up a drawing so you can make nice line work.

[Anonymous No.1695264]

Figured I'd ask for tips before too much rendering is done.

[Anonymous No.1695274]

>>1695259
I was planning on totally cheating to get the propaganda poster look after I've finished. I'll probably make all the copy and framing in Illustrator, drop in my Cap painting with an American flag and eagle and shit behind him and then mess with the colours/create some custom filters, then use an aged paper phototexture and some freehand painting on it to complete the look.

So I'll have a regular study of Cap, a propaganda poster I might slap in my portfolio if it turns out convincing enough and also this alternate version...

[Anonymous No.1695313]

I feel like something is wrong with the woman's face. After staring at this for so long its difficult to take a step back and see exactly what's off. Maybe an outsiders eye can spot what's making this feel out of sorts to me?

[Anonymous No.1695317]

>>1695313
Sorry it's on its side. It's right side up for me but keeps posting sideways. Not sure why.

[Anonymous No.1695325]

i'm not sure what else to add.

[Anonymous No.1695331]

>>1695264
Improvements

[Anonymous No.1695332]

i don't draw good hands or heads... trying to practice in order to get better, but still don't understand fully how the anatomy works or how to draw the forms... first batch of attempts (yes I know my line quality is shit)

[Anonymous No.1695341]

>>1695313
the noses don't come out of the face enough.

[Joe Action !kayQUACKiI No.1695342]

Here's a quick 2 hour fantasy landscape I painted for class.

How the hell do people take pictures of oil paintings without all the light reflecting off of it?

[Anonymous No.1695345]

>>1695342
Outside in even lighting on an overcast day without flash after the paint has dried.

[Anonymous No.1695352]

I don't think I can even call this a drawing.

[FiRez !!tndrCZJHE+I No.1695356]

>>1695262
Thanks a lot for the kind words. I hope I don't dissapoint you with this one.

>>1695274
I think it can work but if for some reason it overwhelms you just kept it as a study.

>>1695325
I really like that middle ground with all the craters and implied detail. I think that with some modifications in the foreground you can increase the sense of scale and make a better composition.

>>1695331
Her lower body seems way too diminished and like it is facing a different direction than the upper part. Try using some references.

>>1695332
Looks pretty good for a first attempt.

[Anonymous No.1695384]

Taking a break from doing paintings. Pre color

[Anonymous No.1695391]

>>1695259
I think it'd be nice to see you work with an opaque brush. You work using a brush with variable transparency, and it causes your work to look very muddy.

[Anonymous No.1695396]

>>1695384
Not sure which one I like better.

[Anonymous No.1695397]

>>1695396
version 2

[Anonymous No.1695407]

Still practicing digital. The yellow pepper is the one I just finished. I`m really not familiar with digital painting so I`m trying to feel out the whole thing.

[Anonymous No.1695408]

>>1695396
The coloring and pattern on the face instantly makes me think of deadpool. So I probably wouldn`t go with that design...

[Anonymous No.1695409]

>>1695397
make the jacket red in this one

[Anonymous No.1695413]

>>1695408
Yeah I see what you mean.
>>1695409
Is pic related what you were thinking of?

[Anonymous No.1695415]

>>1695413
yes

[Anonymous No.1695418]

>>1695413
Am I the only one being thrown off by his posture? since his legs are all twisty i cant exactly pinpoint it

[Anonymous No.1695423]

>>1695418
The bent leg is supposed to be in front, but yeah I goofed when constructing his pelvic area, so I can see how that might be confusing.

[Anonymous No.1695425]

>>1695407
Same boat as you. Good luck for both of us man. I think you are doing a good job.

[Anonymous No.1695429]

[Anonymous No.1695432]

>>1695429
They all read really well from just the tiny thumb gj anon.

[Anonymous No.1695437]

>>1695259
plz learn about sharp edges firez

[Anonymous No.1695441]

>>1695432
Thanks, but im not sure if this sarcasm or not. Now after some time passed, i can see how fucking awful this actually looks.

[Anonymous No.1695442]

>>1695425

Thanks anon, I wish you luck as well

[Anonymous No.1695447]

>>1695437
The original is far better, you've taken so much of the character away from his strokes, right just looks pretty generic digital.

[Anonymous No.1695449]

>>1695441
Oh no its genuine, when I opened it in a new window everything looked exactly as I expected it to from the thumb.

But if you think you can do even better do it.

[Anonymous No.1695448]

>>1695447
This

You completely took away all the characteristics of the face shading.

[Anonymous No.1695451]

i have to finish something someday

[Anonymous No.1695452]

>>1695451
Looks like shit.

[Anonymous No.1695453]

>>1695437
>>1695447
>>1695448

While anon changed a lot of characteristics regarding the face, his point still stands. FireZ's shit is a blurry and muddy mess to look at.

[Anonymous No.1695456]

>>1695449
Thanks anon, but i need much more practice though.

[Anonymous No.1695472]

>>1695452
epig crit :^)

[Anonymous No.1695474]

>>1695453
>>1695448
>>1695447
>>1695437

i personally love the left one.. it's got more of a painterly feel to it. the right now immediately screams DIGITAL DIGITAL

[Anonymous No.1695475]

>>1695229
Yeah I began by modelling from this reference and wanted to make a custom model.

>>1695238
It's supposed to be some kind of compact howitzer, I like the idea of folded weapons.

[Anonymous No.1695477]

What's your guys's favorite thing to draw or paint?

[Anonymous No.1695481]

>>1695477

pretty girls faces. just look around 99% of everything ever posted here is pretty girls faces.

my fav is design heavy hard-surface stuff. vehicles etc. but im nowhere near good enough to produce anything presentable.

[Anonymous No.1695483]

>>1695449
I agree. They could be mistaken for photos in the tiny thumbnail. So you got the important part down. The rest is just detailing.

[Anonymous No.1695485]

>>1695477
Pretty girls' faces.

[Anonymous No.1695487]

[Anonymous No.1695489]

>>1695477
Hard sci-fi designs.
Also pretty girls faces.

[Anonymous No.1695495]

still workin'

[Anonymous No.1695497]

how to hands, how to feet, how to lineart I don't knowwww

I have no idea how to plant the feet here, but I don't want to redraw the legs :[

[Anonymous No.1695501]

>>1695477
i love to draw 'weird' characters and i also like to paint things inspired by the music i listen to

[Anonymous No.1695517]

>>1695495

ok dun

[FiRez !!tndrCZJHE+I No.1695519]

>>1695391
>>1695437
>>1695453
I think this is mostly due to how I bumped the resolution a wee bit too much mostly because I noticed that at 100% some of the details of the face and the face itself lost presence. Changing it back was makes it sharper.

>>1695447
>>1695448
>>1695474
Thanks for the feedback!

>>1695477
Portraits

[Anonymous No.1695538]

>>1695495
>>1695517
I really like these, particularly the first more than the second.

[Anonymous No.1695545]

>>1695538
I agree, the first one looks a lot less flat

[Anonymous No.1695553]

>>1695437
>>1695519

>Left version = all soft and blurred
>Right version = all sharp

Jesus guys, it's all about getting a mix between the two. Soft edges, hard edges, lost edges, etc etc. Use your edges to further emphasize the forms and lighting, and to lead the eye to the focal points. Alla Prima has a whole chapter on edges from memory, but I usually advise people to look at Ruan Jia for stuff like this, that guy's edges are fantastic. HGJ's work too is excellent with his edges, pic related, and more of it is figure and portrait work than Ruan Jia's, though he goes overboard on the soft and lost edges sometimes to make the figures seem all floaty. But yeah, look up edges Firez and Anon, they can add so much to your work.

>>1695477
Naked women and big badass bearded vikings.

[Anonymous No.1695579]

Feedback appreciated!

[Anonymous No.1695580]

>>1695579
Step 1: Rotate so it's upright, and reduce the file size a bunch.

[Anonymous No.1695589]

>>1695579
1.rotate
2. stop showing use your dick
3. stop drawing popart

:(

[Anonymous No.1695606]

[Anonymous No.1695615]

sp

[Anonymous No.1695616]

>>1695356
Thanks, I think I should be able to manage it.

Decided to expand the canvas, get more of Cap's body in. Really like your studies, I added you on DA.

[Anonymous No.1695619]

>>1695616
looks like a teenagers face, is it your face? that would be cute.

[Anonymous No.1695624]

>>1695619
...are you that guy who posted in every thread you could find that I was a shit painter who traced photographs and accused anyone with a superficially style of being me after I posted that Iron Man painting?

That would be cute.

[Anonymous No.1695627]

>>1695624
no, i wasn't even insulting you bro. you need to chill out. i was just saying it looks like a teenagers face to me, which it does. fuck you.

[Anonymous No.1695628]

>>1695627
Sorry. Genuinely, I am. It's just I haven't posted on /ic/ in months after some guy started harassing me in every thread. Then he started accusing other people of being me and harassing them, so rather than let it go on I stopped posting for a while.

Chris Evans does have a pretty soft face, though. Hopefully it'll look more manly after I get some stubble and hard edges in there.

[Anonymous No.1695634]

>>1695616
nice

are there any shading tutorials?

[Anonymous No.1695635]

>>1695628
Way to hold that grudge :3 Surely you are one of us.

[Anonymous No.1695652]

>>1695635
I don't mind people shitting on my work, but when they drag other people into it for no good reason that's just not on.

[Anonymous No.1695659]

>>1695477
Faces and armor

[Anonymous No.1695697]

>>1695215
Update, found some joy in working on this. Debating if she should have nips or a bra.

[Anonymous No.1695705]

>>1695697
bra

[Anonymous No.1695707]

>>1695697
can you share this nice brush plis?

[Anonymous No.1695706]

>>1695697
Ornate bra

[Anonymous No.1695708]

I have to leave for work, but wanna finish this tomorrow because stuff from imagination is a weakness I've avoided for ages.

[Anonymous No.1695710]

>>1695708

[Anonymous No.1695712]

[Anonymous No.1695714]

>>1695697
Nips for the pervs.

After that you can slap on all kinds of shit.

[Anonymous No.1695715]

>>1695477
Curvaceous woman at a 3/4 angle view from the waist up.

The comfort zone is really comfy.

[Anonymous No.1695716]

>>1695705
>>1695706
>>1695714

I think a ornate bra might be better, nothing wrong with nips but I rather save it to another painting I have laying around.

>>1695707
Used 2 brushes, one is the the second brush Peleng uses, think you can find it if you google it. The other is a default soft round.

[Anonymous No.1695717]

>>1695712
2grey4me

Up the contrast and it'll seem much more striking

[Anonymous No.1695724]

>>1695606
>>1695487
wonderful colours!! thumbnails read amazingly.

[Anonymous No.1695728]

>>1695724
The clouds one is great, honestly looks real from the thumbnail.

[Anonymous No.1695731]

>>1695728
I concur

[Anonymous No.1695736]

>>1695331
I think i saw a Pose of Zantanna like this

[Anonymous No.1695740]

>>1695710
Too much gesture

[Anonymous No.1695743]

study
Ive spent too much time on this and used the dropper too often. Am I really learning anything?

[Anonymous No.1695744]

>>1695332
Dude keep at it its quite good.

[Anonymous No.1695745]

>>1695743
no.
Read Alla prima. then do it again.

[Anonymous No.1695766]

little doodle from today.

[Anonymous No.1695774]

trying something different with colour

[Anonymous No.1695775]

>>1695774
and another

[Anonymous No.1695780]

>>1695745
>Alla prima
>digital

[Anonymous No.1695785]

>>1695775
Reminds me a little of the cutout filter in Photoshop.

If you go in and blend those colours together you'd get something really striking, I think.

[Anonymous No.1695786]

>>1695780
>implying that the knowledge gathered in that book isn't applyable to digital
>being this pleb

[Anonymous No.1695790]

Some sketches on the bus.

[Anonymous No.1695791]

>>1695774
it looks cool as it is, but I feel like it could be a lot better if you werent too afraid to blend your colors together. Try using some kind of texture brush.

[Anonymous No.1695792]

Just trying to learn photoshop, pretty new to digital painting so comments are 100% welcomed since I barely know how to work this program.

[Anonymous No.1695794]

Via pen and markers

[Anonymous No.1695795]

>>1695325
Try using more of photoshops tools.
Use the lasso or circle select to make a perfect circle if you are having a hard time doing it free hand. The lighting doesnt seem to be coming from the same direction. Decide 1 lightsource then render everything based on that. The texturs on the ground looks good, you just need more of it and the correct lighting to begin with.

>>1695407
Drawing the shadow on the ground the fruits are on helps make these even more worth while.

>>1695487
Try to exaggerate some of the shapes, values or colors to make the painting more readable even if the refrence doesnt have it. Make the edges around the stones clearer.
>>1695606
thumd reads really well. Mix in some softer brushes though for more pleasantly shaped details.

[Anonymous No.1695800]

>>1695356
>I really like that middle ground with all the craters and implied detail
>implied detail
But firez it is real detail that's photobashed in, not implied detail

[Anonymous No.1695801]

>>1695710
Is that gesture posible?

[Anonymous No.1695811]

>>1695437
serious question: what is wrong with you and do u know how to criticize someones art?

[Anonymous No.1695812]

>>1695743
stop using the dropper

[Anonymous No.1695824]

>>1695437
I'd choose the left one anyday

[Anonymous No.1695827]

>>1695811
put your trip back on

[Anonymous No.1695838]

>>1695795

Ah thanks! I didn`t read this until I had just finished this, but I`ll definitely keep it in mind for next time.

[Conmana No.1695839]

Finished for the most part, Lost my passion later on in.

Ultimately I'm stuck between wanting to paint and wanting to really insane rendering.

Bit Murky Bit Muddy

stepped way out of my comfort zone to actually illustrate something, I had fun in the end.

[Anonymous No.1695843]

so... digital painting...

i was really jealous of those awesome digital painters, so I decided I would try to get gud at it. I downloaded krita and screwed around with it, and I had a lot of fun.

What I'm wondering is, are there any quintessential digital painting guides other than ctrl paint? I'm about to get started watching all of the ctrl paint videos, but anything else I should be aware of?

[Anonymous No.1695844]

>>1695843

what i pooped out of krita

[Anonymous No.1695845]

>>1695844
rugrats tommy sure grew up

[Anonymous No.1695846]

>>1695843
Dan LuVisi has a load of saved videos on his Livestream and a tutorial on digital painting accessible through the Stan Winston School's website for $20. Likewise Dave Rapoza does a lot of streams and tutorials. There's a ton of shit on YouTube to sift through. Proko's not too bad. There's also Gnomon Workshop's website - $50 a month for unlimited access to all their videos.

A lot of traditional techniques also carry over to digital, so look into the usual - Loomis, Speed, Bargue, etc.

[Anonymous No.1695850]

>>1695786
Actually it's not.

That is if you are referring to Alla Prima by Richard Schmid (which is what I originally assumed you were talking about). A great book, don't get me wrong and one of my most treasured. I currently have the book placed in a glass cabinet in my atrium. However, the book is quite specific to oil painting and/or other traditional media, and thus it doesn't quite translate that well into digital. You might apply some of the ideas presented about color theory and composition to digital painintg but otherwise I don't see how that book would've helped that other anon. not to mention the fact that it's not exactly a book for absolute beginners anyway; it assumes that the reader has even a basic understanding of the medium of painting (traditional painting).

You see, sir, he's better off watching matt kohr's videos LOL. Quit being so pretentious.

*tip fedora*

[Anonymous No.1695874]

[Anonymous No.1695875]

You ever come up with a character early on, and then later on after you've created other characters you end up enjoying drawing them more than your first character? That's what's going on here. Ginger's more fun to draw than the kid, so I've spent all of today restructuring the plot (mostly the beginning) to get it so the story I have in mind can be told from her perspective and with her motivations in mind. Hell, at this point I'm about ready to drop Lakritz from the story entirely.

[Anonymous No.1695880]

>>1695616
I think I'm done with the face, unless there's anything you guys can pick up on that needs fixing or changing.

Got a shitload of cloth and canvas to render on this, considering flat-out cheating and using phototextures to speed up the process.

[Anonymous No.1695884]

>>1695880
The perspective on his shoulder is really off putting. I think you need to push it back. Also are you using the cutout filter on your ref or does the way you render just make it look like that?

[Anonymous No.1695888]

redoing an old idea

[Anonymous No.1695889]

>>1695850
I have to agree with the other anon here, that Alla Prima knowledge is just as applicable to digital as it is to traditional mediums. It doesn't matter whether you use oils or watercolour or photoshop, the principles of color, value, drawing and edges are the same. If you want to learn to render crazy realistic skin and shiny cyborg space marines then maybe it's not for you, but as far as learning to see, analyse and paint then that book's solid gold.

[Anonymous No.1695891]

>>1695888
make sure to add some green in her skin

[Anonymous No.1695890]

>>1695889
is there a pdf/download of alla prima anywhere?

[Anonymous No.1695893]

>>1695890
Must be since my one's a pdf. Can't remember if I got it linked from an art friend or anons or through searching, but the pdf is out there somewhere. If you can't find it by tomorrow then I'll post a link to my copy which I'm dropboxing now, it should have finished uploading by then.

[Anonymous No.1695895]

>>1695884
I use a cutout filter to give me an idea of basic shapes and colours to block in, then take the ref back to a photo and work at refining everything by eye for studies.

Also way ahead of you, that shoulder's been bugging me all afternoon but I wanted to get the face done. It's nearly 6am here, going to get some sleep before trying to finish this off tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.1695896]

>>1695893
i managed to not be a lazy cunt and found it on kickass torrents, thank you though!

[Anonymous No.1695897]

>>1695891
noted

[Anonymous No.1695902]

>>1695880
"Cheating" and using phototextures would get it done quicker yeah, but it depends on what you're doing this for. If it's for a client or deadline, go ahead. If it's to learn from, then you'll learn so so much more by doing it properly.

My crit on the piece is that the mouth looks weird, bottom lip in particular the plane is facing towards us too much. Need at least three planes there, one above, one forward, and one under the lip to push it forward. Chisel them forms out anon. You've also rendered out your shadow shapes a bit too far I think, which can lead to you losing form in certain places. Just things to keep in mind, keep at it.

>>1695896
No worries, enjoy the book. Schmidt knows what he's talking about.

[Anonymous No.1695904]

I dunno what color scheme to go with, what you think?

[Anonymous No.1695905]

>>1695904
Both.

[Anonymous No.1695906]

>>1695902
You raise a good point, this is personal work.

Guess I'll be painting it all by hand, then. Also you're right about the lips, I'll try and fix that tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.1695909]

>>1695904

Given the scenarios you've rendered behind the figure in both, neither looks very intense. For the starry one, I'd make the figure like... WHITE, like a comet. Gives an opportunity for some abstract, but organic volumes and relationships to contrast with how anchored and calm the stars above the figure are.

[Anonymous No.1695916]

rough sketch, been working on trying to make my sketches more complete like i was advised to do. im still having an anatomy problems but im working on it.

[Anonymous No.1695919]

>>1695839
Nice work man. Makin progress.

[Anonymous No.1695929]

current work in progress, finished lineart overall, didn't have anough space to add another character, going to start coloring...gonna be hard.

[Conmana No.1695932]

Little sketch with some experimentation values color block in ect

Needs some work but I think im onto something, Trying to force myself from over rendering or getting some fine ground between painting and rendering.

>>1695919
Thanks man, working hard!

[Anonymous No.1695936]

Fuk I don't know what to do with these legs

I drew the feetless one first (which I actually like better) but I feel like inward facing feet don't work well with the character, like it makes her a bit too girly? Trying to express someone 'tough and confrontational'

then I tried working out the legs and feet, and while I have something there now, it doesn't look quite right, in terms of expression. Also I burnt out, and everything I draw is crap for now.

Advice? And yes, I'm aware the arms are fucked, I was planning on fixing that after resolving the legs (feel free to shit on everything else though)

[Anonymous No.1695943]

>>1695936
Give her high heels.

[Anonymous No.1695968]

>>1695888
mouth seems a bit low

[Anonymous No.1695975]

>>1695929
oh WOW holy shit, first time using blending on ps, this shit is amazing as fuck.

[Anonymous No.1695996]

Spend like 10 hrs on this..

[Anonymous No.1695999]

[Anonymous No.1696001]

>>1695996
man, you should add details to your wheels, and more reflections on the car.

[Anonymous No.1696005]

nothing much to say yet, still working on the face.

[Anonymous No.1696008]

>>1695996
man this is great

[Anonymous No.1696011]

>>1695996
You have the matte aspect of the surface down but since the surface of cars is usually very smooth is also reflects the environment like a mirror. Here's an overpainting

[Anonymous No.1696013]

>>1695743

bit off way more than you can chew. start with simple objects under simple lighting. take some fruit and put it under your table light, then paint. from life, obviously :o

postpone the master studies by 6-9 months (imo)

[Anonymous No.1696014]

>>1696005
and a small update before i go to bed. i made her head less fat.

[Anonymous No.1696034]

Just being bored...

[Anonymous No.1696046]

>>1695996
looks really cool but working in 3d is probably a better idea if you want to get a really nice finished rendered version in a reasonable time.

[Anonymous No.1696051]

>>1695475
lol... kitbashing from refrence

[Anonymous No.1696055]

>>1695606
this is beautiful and it is my favorite in the entire thread

[Anonymous No.1696085]

Quick warm up before I procrastinate enough to quit for the day.

[Anonymous No.1696204]

>>1696034
>just being bored
nigga pls

[Anonymous No.1696206]

wip.. would like some feedback..

[Anonymous No.1696210]

>>1696206

nigga would fall over. fix your weight distribution

[Anonymous No.1696222]

>>1696210
Thanks!

[Anonymous No.1696258]

>>1695207
I like it.
>>1695606
nice and chunky.

>>1695102
>>1695153
>>1695074

Thanks, continuing practising skintones, different ref:

[Anonymous No.1696261]

>>1696258
ref

[Anonymous No.1696278]

[Anonymous No.1696355]

I'm doing a color study of Rubens, but getting really hung up on likeness.

[Anonymous No.1696362]

>>1695038

[Anonymous No.1696366]

Does my cloud looks like bag of potatoes?

[Anonymous No.1696369]

>>1696366
like how you manged to crop in the title of the layer name

[Anonymous No.1696374]

>>1696369
I just cropped it mindlessly, can I have my question answered now.

[Anonymous No.1696377]

>>1696366
>>1696374
More like mashed potatoes, than a bag.
It looks really dispersed; try for a solid form, and maybe a different color scheme.

[Anonymous No.1696383]

>>1696377
Thank you.

[Anonymous No.1696384]

>>1696366
Are you using a reference?

[Anonymous No.1696385]

>>1696384
Now I will.

[Anonymous No.1696387]

just finished it

>>1696206
cool design

>>1696366
more like a bag of cum in south park

>>1696362
nice colours but plait, seriously ?

[Anonymous No.1696405]

>>1696387
Your forms are broken. Proportions are all over the place, the planes of the head don't read correctly, and the direction of the light source is inconsistent.

I assume this is supposed to be Liam Neeson? Are you working from a ref(s)?

[Anonymous No.1696406]

>>1696387
shading with black?

[Anonymous No.1696415]

>>1695313
The nose knows

[Anonymous No.1696416]

How am I doing so far?

From life.

[Anonymous No.1696421]

Is the composition and idea in this worth developing?

[Anonymous No.1696425]

I need better technique, or just more practice or something.

[Anonymous No.1696430]

wip

[Anonymous No.1696434]

pretty much just copying the coloring technique from the reference but I was thinking it looks kind of plasticy. I'm shitty at color theory so I wanted to ask if theres a good color I could like airbrush into his skin lightly to make him look more organic. Would it be like...orange or something? Maybe green?

[Anonymous No.1696435]

>>1696430
Pretty good

[Anonymous No.1696437]

>>1696430
I feel like the older one had better forms, especially the lion head.

[Anonymous No.1696439]

>>1696437
this one? it felt way too dead for me, don't you feel?
i want to put a better structure back to the figure though, that pass had little consciousness of forms

[Anonymous No.1696440]

>>1696437
yeah, i can see what you mean. i just wanted to go in and get a visual thing, i will fix the form things but i like the lion head more now.

[Anonymous No.1696445]

>>1696405
you're right, didn't notice the proportions since I hided the ref and the cheek is way too much highlighted

>>1696406

where is there black ?

[Anonymous No.1696451]

>>1696445
>the grey

shit taste

[Anonymous No.1696454]

>>1696451
>didn't get the story and expected a "muh kill duh wolvz and then prfrpfprppprrr explosion" action movie
>call it shit

[Anonymous No.1696457]

>>1696454
>making ridiculous assumptions
>implying that story was good
>being this fucking hostile

[Anonymous No.1696458]

>>1696387

Thank you for the compliment.

The braid is part of his character design, i think it's sorta cool to have a small feminine feature on a masculine person. Adds some contrast.

[Anonymous No.1696461]

>>1696430
I'm curious about your workflow, could you give a brief description? please.

[FiRez !!tndrCZJHE+I No.1696463]

It's still scaled up but I think it looks sharper due to the additional work.

Thanks for all the feedback so far.

[Anonymous No.1696469]

Little something ive been working on. At the moment I'm kind of lost with it. The idea was to have little shadow children running around and spreading darkness for bigger shadow guys.

[Anonymous No.1696477]

>>1696366
WARNING: I have no Idea what I'm doing but drawing clouds is fun.

[Anonymous No.1696478]

>>1695975
>>1695929
Fix'd

[Anonymous No.1696482]

>>1696478
11/10

[Anonymous No.1696481]

>>1695740
Pretty sure you meant that the pose was unnatural, so I did this.
You saved me from the monkey house.

>>1695801
Well, even if it's possible, when it looks bad, I should change it.

[Anonymous No.1696485]

>>1695792
CRAZY FUCK, DO NOT LISTEN TO HIS ADVICE

[Anonymous No.1696487]

Gonna be playing a monk in some DnD, so I tried drawing up some art for him.

[Anonymous No.1696489]

>>1696416
Love it, but a bit more contrast would be nice, real life is a lying bitch, exaggerate the colors like you would a pose in figure drawing.

[Anonymous No.1696496]

I'll gladly become homosexual if I had that kind of amount of stroke efficiency

[Anonymous No.1696503]

>>1695101
>>1695264
>>1695451
>>1695710
>>1695916
>>1696206
>>1696278
Threw this together, hope it helps

[Anonymous No.1696504]

First time using cubes to block out the body after circles for construction. I'm really happy with how the head turned out with that slight upward facing angle. I wanted to make him smile more but it was difficult to do with the cigar in his mouth.

The arms are shit and so is the general fabric of the coat. I rushed the cubes for the arms but I won't next time. I had a lot of fun drawing this.

Can you guess who its based off?

[Anonymous No.1696505]

>>1696496
You are missing pretty much all of the darks. You should try to focus more on how the original artist achieved the results you are going for

[Anonymous No.1696575]

>>1696485
Well then what should i do?? I thought you were suppose to block then blend...

[Anonymous No.1696580]

>>1696575
Yeah, but don't blend to death with a soft brush.

[Anonymous No.1696583]

trying to figure out where to take this

[Anonymous No.1696595]

>>1696439
>>1696440
The new one has it's merits, especially all the activated colors. I still much prefer the older one - it has a little more charm to it. The color palette and value changes were subtle, and the atmospheric perspective was a little more consistent. I also liked the ambiguity of the ground plane - it was a lot more ethereal.

The new one looks like it has too many deep darks, particularly the front right leg (our left).

I liked the structural solidity of the original head. It's size compared to the body was also better, as the new head feels a little narrow and the neck a little long. I also liked how the eyes and mouth were more concealed in the original.

Now that the forms of the head are a little more ambiguous, the mane stands out too much. There wasn't too much of a differential between the two beforehand, and this shows even in the thumbnail.

I also prefer the original spear over the sword in that current position. The hand was also a lot more emotive than the fist you have now.

[Anonymous No.1696596]

Value Study. Needs more refining, but next step is blending.

[Anonymous No.1696628]

you just like me for my body

[Anonymous No.1696634]

>>1696628
this is a really neat idea. i really like the lighting in it too but it could definitely use cleaner edges.

looks really good so far though!

[Anonymous No.1696657]

>>1696628
you might do better with more accurate brain anatomy, i know it sounds like a quibble but put a cerebellum in there at least.

[Anonymous No.1696660]

>>1696496
>>1696505

Seconding this, try get in those gorgeous shadow shapes he has anon. Artists who have great brushstrokes almost invariably have good shape design. Look for some oil painting demos on youtube, there's some ok ones from Watt's atelier, and look how the first thing to go in is the block shadow shapes (after a reasonable line lay in). Then build it up from there. It's already really late here but I did a quick and messy paintover just to push out some of the shadow shapes more, get those in first in a piece and it cements your forms and shape design. Keep at it anon.

[Anonymous No.1696661]

>>1696575
Don't think of it like blending, think of it like mixing.
Blend = 2 colors in a blender together
Mix = 2 colors side by side smeared back and forth with a knife

[Anonymous No.1696662]

>>1696583
I like this, Jama's brushes right? It's cool but could do with something else to look at aside from the guy. Or alternatively darken down the less important parts of the composition, at the moment my eye jumps all over with nothing to really linger on but the guy. Also the thing he's standing on seems to be sloping towards us, not sure if that's deliberate. Looks cool though anon, look forward to seeing more if you take it further.

[Anonymous No.1696663]

>>1696661
but in traditional painting mixing is what you do on the palette and blending what you do on the canvas. if you start using your own terms if you move into traditional painting you'll be at odds with everyone else!

[Anonymous No.1696686]

>>1696662
thanks, it's actually just some random brush I made and added a canvas texture too, but I'm sure there's lots of brushes like that. took a bit further after reading your comments and hopefully this helps the comp. gonna try to take it a bit further and maybe add something to the foreground

[Anonymous No.1696688]

>>1696046
Thanks its a school assignement tho, hardsurfuce is easier to light than organic stuff, so there prolly just preparing us for that.
>>1696011
I am aware, but id rather not guess, ill learn how to add reflectivity
next week
>>1696008
TY
>>1696001
I know but they havent taught me that yet, and i dont wanne fuck up my assignement by doing something i dont know

[Anonymous No.1696724]

[Anonymous No.1696763]

>>1696206


Fuuu man I love this design. Its just so ridiculous

[Anonymous No.1696775]

>>1696596
Post reference please. I want to draw this as well.
Looks good so far.

[Conmana No.1696801]

Little experiment before I went to bed playing around with brushes and things

I quite like this I can't quite explain it but it's very peaceful relaxing really.

[Anonymous No.1696811]

How can I make it less boring?

[Anonymous No.1696815]

I just got into drawing, I'm trying to learn how to not symbol draw and draw what I see, I'm getting slowly better but its hard as fuck, how do you guys do when you try to I guess see how far shaded areas are from each other and so on? I always end up with a completely different face than the one Itry to draw because the proportions of everything are off

[Anonymous No.1696817]

Should I get a tablet already? I am a poorfag so I want to buy a good one once I buy.
< A study done with mouse.

[Anonymous No.1696818]

>>1696815
Read the sticky, read "drawing on the right side of the brain", ignore the pseudo science bullshit and focus on the drills/excercises.

One of them is drawing upside down, next time you want to draw a face from photoreference, turn the photo upside down and copy it as such, once you're done flip it over and it should be more accurate than your normal work.

[Anonymous No.1696824]

>>1696811
contrast contrast. right now it's just gray and shiny everywhere. have a focal point and introduce some darks into it

[Anonymous No.1696835]

>>1696801
neato

[Anonymous No.1696847]

my second portrait..
continue or stop with drawing?
how to make it more interesting? what should I do with hair?

[Anonymous No.1696849]

>>1696595
thanks a lot, i really appreciate that and will work it over today.

>>1696801
damn you a cutie con

>>1696724
try doing these with a soft airbrush/blur-smudge as well to appreciate how each of those planes can be simplified to a gradient, like the sky, the water, a cliff. it's a simple transitional gradient from one colour to another and that's something missed with no-pressure full opacity.

>>1696686
try and think and visualise more, the original is much better and i think you should stick to it. take a step back from the tablet and think up some elements to this. who is the guy? what's his age, what's he doing there? what's where the camera is, and so on.. do that for the environment and everything and you'll come up with something great to paint out of it. the newer ones just has random bridges? or connections? the perspective is strange andi don't see their purpose. if you were a floating camera in this scene, would you really shoot it like this?

[Anonymous No.1696864]

Finally done... no idea about the background though.

[Anonymous No.1696869]

>>1696817
For a mouse, not bad at all, but yeah, buy a tablet ASAP.

[Anonymous No.1696871]

>>1695553
holy shit. whose that artist? is there more? that fucking detail im in love

[Anonymous No.1696872]

>>1696463
I really dig this, would you mind helping me find the ref?

>>1696430
This is really interesting, could you please tell me if you used any references, and or share a bit of your workflow.

>>1696258
I'm calling it finished and starting another one.

[Anonymous No.1696878]

I'm using the airbrush tool in paintbrush, it's supposed to be audrey hepburn

[Anonymous No.1696895]

>>1696847
>continue or stop with drawing?
Why would you stop? Always continue

[Anonymous No.1696894]

>>1696872
>I really dig this, would you mind helping me find the ref?
Not that guy, but it's Alice. THE Alice, Alice Liddel, who inspired Alice in Wonderland.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Alice_Liddel_-_Beggar_Girl.jpg

[Anonymous No.1696896]

>>1696477
Now I know why my cloud looked like a jizz stain. I wasn't using background colour as light placements in it, because clouds are puffs of smoke, rather than a material. Thanks alot, and start drawing anything, maybe. I'll see what can I do only with flats, though.

[Anonymous No.1696899]

>>1696895
>http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Alice_Liddel_-_Beggar_Girl.jpg
thank you.

[Anonymous No.1696909]

>>1696871
Artist is Guangjian Huang, goes by HGJ most places.

[Anonymous No.1696910]

>>1696871
Artist is Guangjian Huang, goes by HGJ most places. These detail pics are from an anon, but his work is on his site (though it's not working atm) or CGhub, Facebook, dA, etc.

[Anonymous No.1696943]

>>1696872
a quick one - i think under an hour

[Anonymous No.1696957]

>>1695038
so do you think lewis carroll was really a perv or what? did your study give you insight?

[Anonymous No.1696959]

>>1696957
are you the loli police who has also been bitching about Balthus and Bouguereau?

[Anonymous No.1696969]

>>1696959
no i was just wondering what the op thought as he had done a study and sometimes when you study an artist's work you get a feelin' for their flava, to quote some terrible song.

just idly curious

[Anonymous No.1696971]

>>1696969
oops i meant misquote lol

[Anonymous No.1696986]

How are the values on this/ any advice to improve?

[Anonymous No.1697003]

>>1696775
Here ya go.

[Anonymous No.1697013]

>>1697003

[Anonymous No.1697018]

New at this, looking for anything that doesn't seem to be improving over time, or anything else terribly wrong with the most recent (unfinished) one.

[Anonymous No.1697042]

Sorry if what I'm doing is absurd, but I've gotten no responses and this problem I'm facing is really bothering me. The chin the cheek look really off at this angle, along with her lip, is there any way to fix it?

[Anonymous No.1697044]

>>1697042
why are you doing this?

[Anonymous No.1697043]

>>1697042
And yeah I know this would belong in the Stylization General but there's a real big argument going on over there, so no responses.

[Anonymous No.1697045]

Still life work in progress-- I could use some moral support! The shell on the right is what I'm working on atm but it's troubling me so much.
Oil on panel, 5x7". Laugh, but for some reason I thought this would be easy... ai, yi, yi. I think I got the values pretty fair, will post ref pic following. Thoughts or advice? Thanks

[Anonymous No.1697047]

>>1697045
reference/values here

[Anonymous No.1697069]

OP do you have some page with your stuff? would love to see more

[Anonymous No.1697070]

>>1697003
Thanks!

[Anonymous No.1697089]

>>1697042
oo synchronicity , was just watching the show.

anyway your colours are a little pastelly, i did you a quick thingo more to show what i mean than as a correction.

i'm not a digital painter , but what it would be with paint would be you have too much white in the mix, which desaturates the colours.

it's okay and it's a certain look, but if you want weight or richness you need to use more pure colours. oh and the pink in the hat is way too high in value.

[Anonymous No.1697094]

>>1697089
was a little warm i think

[Anonymous No.1697095]

>>1697018
Well, it's good that you are constructing the head, this forces ou to look at it as a three dimensional object.
Now you have to do the same thing for the smaller features as well. You are still symbol drawing those. Think of everything as a three dimensional object.

>>1697042
It seems like you forgot to draw the left part of her jaw. Did you construct the face? Because then this kind of thing usually doesn't happen.

[Anonymous No.1697101]

[Anonymous No.1697102]

>>1696824
yeah it's getting better now!

[Anonymous No.1697106]

>>1697044
Cause I'm trying to make myself happy by painting stuff that makes me happy.
>>1697094
Huh, really makes the skin stand out in a really nice, vibrant way. I think I'll do that.
>>1697095
I did construct it, yeah, but jaws and cheek alignment have always been a struggle for me when it comes to more experimental angles from imagination. Plus, this is more stylized than realistic - so I'm getting out of my comfort zone.
>>1697101
I save my favourite things to paint for last, usually it's the face - the eyes being my favourite part of the face.

[Anonymous No.1697109]

>>1697101
Oh shoot, thought you were poking fun at her dead, souless eyes. Thanks for the help with her face!

[Anonymous No.1697114]

>>1697042
I dont get it
Are you trying to imitate the style?
Or are you trying to make a more realistic version?
The facial features look like its supposed to be like the reference, but the shoulders and neck say otherwise.

[Anonymous No.1697121]

>>1697114
I'm not trying to emulate the style, nor make it realistic. Just painting her in a different style than what's normal. A lot of my paintings are realistic-looking, even if they're not from reality, so I try to incorporate that into a lot of my work. The nose and hat could be based on the show - but everything else is just a different take on it, I guess.

[Anonymous No.1697123]

>>1697095
>You are still symbol drawing those.
How do I do this? Take the nose for example. Is it just a matter of shading or are my lines an issue as well? This guy in particular has had five different noses on him ranging from a primitive ">" to the one outlined in red (currently the working version). Is the one of the previous noses (the blue one) better? I redrew it several times but couldn't get it to look right.

Also please excuse the neck and shoulders.

[Anonymous No.1697124]

>>1697121
Well shit, youre doing a very bad job at whatever youre doing

[Anonymous No.1697128]

>>1697124
Yup.

[FiRez !!tndrCZJHE+I No.1697133]

>>1695800
Maybe I went far calling it implied detail, but it's detail nonetheless and I think he could exploit to make a more ambitious composition

>>1696894
I wish I had used that reference from the beginning mine was all low rez like a 4th of that one. I didn't even know its source. Thanks.

>>1696957
I think things like that are hard to infer based on a single piece of work. I would only go as far as saying that judging by the way he captured this moment in time, he had a high appreciation for the girl.

>>1697069
Thanks. I upload my stuff here:

http://firez-tbr.tumblr.com/
http://firez-da.deviantart.com/

[Anonymous No.1697136]

>>1697133
that he did indeed, i heard he asked her parents if he could marry her, but i also heard that that was just a rumour :p

[Anonymous No.1697138]

>>1696817
If this is what you can do with a mouse then a tablet will only make your life easier.

[Anonymous No.1697140]

Studie done with mouse and google street view

[Anonymous No.1697141]

Pine trees, rocks, apples, teeth and lips, and sometimes boots or raincoats.

[Anonymous No.1697149]

>>1697140
skills with the mouse are not transferrable to a pen. youre limiting your work efficiency. the study isnt bad m8, but like work on a medium thats not a mouse.

[Anonymous No.1697151]

>>1695790
love the old lady

[Anonymous No.1697157]

>>1697149
i think it's the opposite.
Using the mouse forces me to think differently and be more efficient because it's way harder to make details. i dont draw with the mouse normaly but i dont have my pen tablet at home right now.

[Anonymous No.1697171]

How do I colorize my values without being retarded?

[Anonymous No.1697175]

>>1697171
Why did you break her leg?

[Anonymous No.1697178]

>>1697102
I dont know anymore ... :( Still feels boring. Guess it's the composition.. Should I render a bit or leave it be?

[Anonymous No.1697180]

How is the value? Anyway to improve this piece?

I'm still trying to figure out photoshop and im still unsure about how im doing things in this program but at least I feel I did better than my last two, leaves and the weird orange peels

[Anonymous No.1697181]

study of the day

[Anonymous No.1697189]

>>1696489
Thanks, that was helpful.

I think I'm done with it now.

[Anonymous No.1697212]

>>1697106
You can try drawing a normal head and then draw over it with the stylized features.

>>1697123
Think of the nose not as a set of lines, but as a three dimensional shape. Then draw that shape onto the face. And to get that to work right you need a good understanding of the nose.

I suggest you go a step back and draw a few of the loomis "fun with a pencil" heads, the simplified features help you focus on the three dimensional thinking rather than the anatomy. You can study that later.

>>1697171
Convert your art into a transparent-to-black gradient and then put the colour in a layer underneath.

[Anonymous No.1697216]

>>1697149
Actually, I think drawing with the mouse time from time is a really good exercise as he said. It makes you need to simplify things like edges and have a strong sense of color theory in order to blend colors and give them mass. It's like a digital version of using the palette knife

[Anonymous No.1697223]

Just finished this. The proportions aren't exactly as I want them, mainly because I normally draw smaller sketches.

Anything in particular I need to work on?

[Anonymous No.1697225]

>>1697223
b8

[Anonymous No.1697226]

>>1697225
Don't listen to him its gr8 m8, 8/8

[Anonymous No.1697227]

>>1697226
>>1697225

Shit, that hurts.

[Anonymous No.1697228]

>>1697227
Sorry mate, but it's hard to distinguish between bad and troll around here lately. Anyway, you suck.
Flat out.

But you can get better, you have good control and line quality so you're real focus should be on forms. Playing runescape right now so I'm not gonna redline it for you but I can throw together a short tl;dr tutorial in a bit.

[Anonymous No.1697230]

>>1697228
Thanks. I know I suck but I suck less than yesterday, which is motivating.

[Anonymous No.1697233]

>>1697223
draw
from
life
read loomis
and the sticky

[Anonymous No.1697248]

>>1697233
>>1697230
This, but heres a visual.

[Anonymous No.1697255]

>>1697248
Woah, thanks man.
I think my main problem was just drawing from different drawings from manga than just one picture from real life. That made the perspective and proportion all fucked up.

Also, just bad basic skill.

Anyway, thanks a lot. I'll keep working!

[Anonymous No.1697266]

>>1697223
>Anything in particular I need to work on?
Head length vs torso length
Head width vs shoulder width
Proportions in general
His right hand is twisted. Try doing that with your hand in real life, not the sort of thing that would go well with boxing.

Read Figure Drawing for all it's Worth by Loomis.

>>1697248
Beat me to the punch (dohohohoho). In that guys defense there are boxing shorts that go up to the highest abdominal muscles like that.

>>1697212
>draw a few of the Loomis "fun with a pencil" heads
The features (nose in particuler) just seem to get cruder and more 2D. I tried to straight up copy Loomises '3-ball' nose several times but it doesn't come out right. Tried a DA tutorial as well (Nose #6). All the noses I've done for this drawing are now labeled (except the one still attached to the face).

[Anonymous No.1697274]

>>1697212
>>1697171

It's better than I expected for a first time.

[Anonymous No.1697280]

>>1697266
I think there's some kind of limit of how hight the shorts can go up to and a lot of boxers just pull them right up to use the "below the belt" rule to their advantage.

[Anonymous No.1697285]

>>1697280
>>1697266
Well either way his problem was mainly construction and anatomy so he should start there.

[Anonymous No.1697299]

>>1697266
Here's what you need to do:
1) Learn perspective: I suggest going through Perspective Made Easy, and do all the exercises within.
2) Study basic forms from life, and practice drawing through the forms using your knowledge of perspective.
3) Learn construction. Use it to build up complex forms from basic forms (i.e. making an apple from a sphere, or a shoe from a box).
4) Draw noses in real life. Use a mirror if you have to. Have a strong single light source. Study the anatomy of noses as well. Proko's video is a good primer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWZZ3SFmDS8

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[Anonymous No.1697387]

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>>1697094
>>1697101
Last update or I'm scrapping it. I really wanted this to have a "cute" vibe, but the more I look at it, it just has that "uncanny valley" feel to it and I can't help but feel like this happens frequently when I try to make something unrealistic realistic. Other artists can do it really well and keep it looking fresh and clean, while I make it look... weird, as this Louise demonstrates.

[Anonymous No.1697391]

>>1697387
Pic related, this artist in particular is one I really look up to because he can make anime look real yet still keep the feel of the style in his paintings. I can't do that in my work and it frustrates me beyond belief.

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[Anonymous No.1697430]

>>1697387
>>1697391
its because that artist is good at picking and choosing just what he wants to go into detail with in terms of values. notice how he refrains from rendering the face too much, only adding a little highlight here and there, adding another shadow here and there. then he goes way more into detail with the arm and shirt

[Anonymous No.1697469]

Hey /ic/ been doing some work on weapons lately, what do you think of my scythe?

[Anonymous No.1698853]

>>1696496
>stroke efficiency
oh God