Just wondering about /ic/'s demographics. >Your age >Your current occupation >Optional: Post your most recent art >19 >Full time student. Nutrition major. No art because posting from phone but have a concept of my recent favorite animated movie.

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Anonymous Sat Mar 22 23:34:50 2014 No.1686225 [DELETED]

Just wondering about /ic/'s demographics.
>Your age
>Your current occupation
>Optional: Post your most recent art

>19
>Full time student. Nutrition major.

No art because posting from phone but have a concept of my recent favorite animated movie.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 23:41:19 2014 No.1686230 File: 615 KB, 1200x1900, ryonen clean.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >18 years young >Going to college soon, no job yet

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 23:45:19 2014 No.1686233 >29 >Full time student >no

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 23:50:49 2014 No.1686234 File: 146 KB, 2250x2250, radishguy_wip2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >25 >artist

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 22 23:59:06 2014 No.1686238 File: 102 KB, 603x534, 1395547140482.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1686225 >24 >Full time job Here, have some imaginative chicken scratch from my comfort zone.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 00:15:38 2014 No.1686241 File: 65 KB, 720x960, Nightmare.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 16 Sophomore in high school, I paint houses for a painting company too

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 00:20:19 2014 No.1686245 File: 84 KB, 991x698, Sketchbook_95_dailyspitpaint_1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1686225 >22 >College student >Pic Related a 20 min from imagination.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 00:25:48 2014 No.1686247 File: 346 KB, 703x989, rline.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1686225 >27 >painter

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 00:27:49 2014 No.1686248 >>1686234 wow.. if you share your DA i will follow you

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 00:28:21 2014 No.1686249 File: 659 KB, 800x1022, frontcoverfinal.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 25 Freelance illustrator, librarian

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 00:30:51 2014 No.1686251 File: 209 KB, 783x626, rus.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >20 >fast food joint, part timer >

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 00:35:34 2014 No.1686255 File: 1.02 MB, 643x900, lagerthafinal.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >25 >student >wasted the last 5 years playing vidya and not caring >would like a time machine please

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 00:38:34 2014 No.1686257 File: 197 KB, 693x993, Untitle123123d-2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1686225 25 full time arthermit / jaime jones wannabe pic related do we post sex too? male mastersex reporting in.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 00:40:34 2014 No.1686258 >>1686248 I use my tumblr more often! (between my blog and main tumblr art gets scattered around) http://tcfischer.tumblr.com/ http://artintheart.tumblr.com/

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 00:42:39 2014 No.1686259 >>1686241 >inb4 42 year old virgin posts underage b&

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 00:42:39 2014 No.1686260 File: 92 KB, 1059x1151, colour.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1686225 >21 >Full time student, course is vaguely art related, but more targeted for people who want to model or animate in games/VFX industry. Oh well.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 00:45:04 2014 No.1686261 >>1686259 You're already posting it, Anon. Oh the ironing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 00:47:35 2014 No.1686262 File: 312 KB, 1195x800, recent study ref.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >20 >part-time job

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 00:51:35 2014 No.1686263 File: 544 KB, 800x1000, jena4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 24 artist

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 01:00:35 2014 No.1686265 File: 88 KB, 497x943, 1671.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1686261 >ironing inb4 not the anon you replied to.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 01:42:06 2014 No.1686284 File: 1.02 MB, 1200x1200, hisgruesomevisage1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 21, full time student at a fine arts school i love cal chuchesta

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 02:35:35 2014 No.1686301 File: 117 KB, 628x873, 30SecGestures.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1686225 >24 >Computer Science student Gestures! Did a few pages on http://www.quickposes.com/ today

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 02:41:05 2014 No.1686306 File: 1.20 MB, 320x240, 1393912636591.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1686245 lord 20 mins... what are you doing with your time...

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 02:41:36 2014 No.1686305 20 Full time student

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 03:13:36 2014 No.1686311 >23 >No job

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 03:47:53 2014 No.1686324 >21 >Fulltime Collage student- I'm an Art Major

Anonymous Sun Mar 23 03:55:53 2014 No.1686328
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>18
>I might realized that could end up being a producer someday all because I have some ideas of cartoon shows but I still haven't gave up on drawing thankfully
>I few months back before now hardly done because I have a animation project ongoing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 03:59:24 2014 No.1686330 >>1686328 phone camera flipped it

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 04:29:53 2014 No.1686345 >>1686328 nigga, what are you doing. Stop copying

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 05:06:09 2014 No.1686361 File: 372 KB, 667x1000, Catherine-2-small.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >19 >student, film production major I'm hoping to switch into graphic design this year but it doesn't look too promising...

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 08:09:47 2014 No.1686400 File: 135 KB, 385x900, DSC09913.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >19 >retail, part time ;_;

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 08:33:17 2014 No.1686410 >>1686259 Anyone dumb enough to post an admission of being underage deserves their ban.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 08:40:47 2014 No.1686413 >>1686361 hey i follow you on tumblr graphic design isn't hard to get into, especially with what you have atm trust me, there are a lot of people worse than you and have still gotten in of course, money still is an issue

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 08:45:47 2014 No.1686415 >19 >Illustration major >a study and a half-done study ~20 and ~10 minutes respectively still in the process of getting good and struggling with depression >>1686284 yeah hes much better than that other dude antony fandago

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 08:55:18 2014 No.1686420 File: 85 KB, 1000x1500, IMG_3433.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1686415

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 08:56:47 2014 No.1686421 File: 85 KB, 1000x1500, IMG_3433.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1686415 oops forgot image

Anonymous Sun Mar 23 09:01:17 2014 No.1686423 [DELETED]

Representing the underage community.
>15
>high school
>most recent art >>1684694

I have GCSE exams within the next 5 weeks so a ban would actually be convenient. Ill be back after 30 days (AFAIK underage b& is temporary) if not ill just ban evade.
Regardless, Ill be back here shitposting and spouting memes - you wont miss me /ic/ =^)

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 09:25:47 2014 No.1686429 File: 71 KB, 317x286, 1394157521781.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1686423 what the fuck am i looking at

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 09:36:47 2014 No.1686433 File: 109 KB, 431x874, windy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >21 >Hobbyist with fulltime job(wanting to become artist) >pic related is from a week or so ago

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 09:37:17 2014 No.1686435 File: 140 KB, 500x640, 1393810188490.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1686433 WHAT IS THISSSSSSS

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 09:41:47 2014 No.1686437 File: 311 KB, 712x565, oilstudy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1686435 Shitty camera with bad lighting. It was something quick and fun to play around with. Pic related is study work

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 09:43:47 2014 No.1686438 >>1686437 >fun

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 09:46:17 2014 No.1686440 File: 466 KB, 508x614, cc.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 19 full-time student with a part-time jerb im an art major but i suxx so here is a quick sketch of a classmaet!1!1

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 09:48:47 2014 No.1686442 File: 135 KB, 385x900, DSC09913.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >19 >retail, part time ;_; (deleted first post because I thought I uploaded the wrong picture)

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 09:53:48 2014 No.1686445 File: 576 KB, 598x1119, Dsmd.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 19 Just got into college, Electrical Engineering. Also unemployed I suck at painting faces.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 09:54:47 2014 No.1686446 File: 511 KB, 1280x1024, hoptimist03.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >19 >Student

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 09:55:47 2014 No.1686448 23, NEET, barely leave the house.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 10:12:47 2014 No.1686453 >>1686448 and how do you make an income?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 10:14:17 2014 No.1686454 File: 304 KB, 1000x608, IMG_0126.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 25 Fine artist

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 10:36:47 2014 No.1686467 File: 372 KB, 598x745, DCS-0001492.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 32 gay dancer

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 10:40:48 2014 No.1686475 >>1686467 is that the domain squatting girl?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 10:49:47 2014 No.1686488 >>1686475 just some random girl from a fashion magazine.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 10:52:48 2014 No.1686491 >>1686453 i dont. Live with my parents and have virtualyl zero expenses.

Anonymous Sun Mar 23 11:02:47 2014 No.1686497
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20. Freelance illustration and some freelance character design. Living at home with my dad at the moment though since rent is cheaper with him than on my own. Probably will need to move out soon though since he can't really afford to keep me here much longer, might try to move in with my gf if finances work out.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 11:08:17 2014 No.1686504 File: 129 KB, 637x769, 1391026962359.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >mfw all those people better AND younger than me

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 11:10:47 2014 No.1686505 >>1686497 fucking hell how much do you get for something like in your picture?

Anonymous Sun Mar 23 11:19:47 2014 No.1686512
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>24
>Freelancing, but really I'm paid a set amount monthly to work on this indie game, I also take side commissions because I still have a lot of time.

Majored in psychology of advertisement, was supposed to start working as a copywriter but a week before I majored I got offered this job with the android game, the pay was good so I decided I can always get a normal job if this doesn't work out.

Anonymous Sun Mar 23 11:19:47 2014 No.1686513

>>1686505
That one was pretty cheap, it was for a family friend, so she only paid 200$. I think I should have charged more though, even though she is a friend.

I've only been working pro for a couple months though. The most I've gotten for one piece is 400$. Currently I'm working on a bulk order of 10 illustrations for 2500$ total (so 250 each, which isn't super great but considering the number of them I am doing it's not bad I guess?), and a character design (rendered to promotional finish) for 350$. Hopefully that gives some sense of stuff. I dunno, kinda low pay overall, but I literally just started working, so figure I'll work my way up.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 11:33:46 2014 No.1686519 people on /ic/ always say that there are only crappy artists on this board. But I see some really good stuff here

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 11:36:16 2014 No.1686522 >>1686225 >19 >College Student (Course: Videogames) not going to post anything because everything sucks.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 11:38:46 2014 No.1686523 >20 >Full time job delivering fridges and shit Don't have any work on my phone I can post, but just google silentartisandesigns on google and my fb page and WordPress will show up.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 11:39:16 2014 No.1686525 >>1686513 You've got skill anon, keep at it and you will be fine. Stay driven.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 11:40:16 2014 No.1686526 >>1686519 i think that "everyone here is complete shit" has become a meme too lol

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 11:42:46 2014 No.1686528 File: 714 KB, 883x1548, red concept v2 cghub.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >21 >Full time student >Pic related is fairly recent, but not most recent

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 11:43:46 2014 No.1686529 File: 636 KB, 992x816, Elf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 23, graphic design student.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 11:45:16 2014 No.1686530 >>1686504 Don't compare yourself to others, just keep at it and you'll improve

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 11:47:46 2014 No.1686532 >>1686513 What did she use it for?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 11:51:46 2014 No.1686533 >>1686530 T-thank anon, I'll do my best. Even if it's not enough. I'll go study now.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 12:11:16 2014 No.1686538 File: 315 KB, 595x842, ag.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >21 >Grapic design student I have more recent work, just not on this computer.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 12:20:46 2014 No.1686540 >18 >Currently NEET, will be going to university soon

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 12:22:16 2014 No.1686542 I like how that acronym attempts to distract from the fact that its actually 'lazy parasitic cunt'

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 12:34:16 2014 No.1686548 >>1686542 You are replying to me, >>1686540, right? No, I'm not NEET because I want to. My high-school's exam result just got posted 3 days ago and universities in my country start accepting application in Jun.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 12:34:46 2014 No.1686550 >>1686525 Thanks mate! >>1686532 She printed it out for her wall and as a gift for her boyfriend. I also printed it and gave it to my girl :P

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 12:40:46 2014 No.1686555 File: 2.00 MB, 3508x2480, untildeathdouspart.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 33, Sfx and make-up artist

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 12:51:08 2014 No.1686563 This thread gives me hope. Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 12:51:39 2014 No.1686562 File: 329 KB, 1250x782, Expressions spread cropped.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >18 >Animation student A

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 12:52:38 2014 No.1686564 >>1686562 *A model sheet.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 13:05:09 2014 No.1686568 File: 28 KB, 960x540, 1381978333382.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1686306 >what are you doing with your time... This >>1686141

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 13:12:09 2014 No.1686572 >>1686568 from the thumbnail i thought that might be dollman and I was really excited to see someone who knows it. :(

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 13:18:39 2014 No.1686574 File: 30 KB, 822x612, untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1686225 17 factory worker High school junior the art isn't

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 13:24:09 2014 No.1686577 23, unemployed, in some irrelevant coding training, doing freelance time to time

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 13:24:39 2014 No.1686578 File: 87 KB, 640x640, 1395595467943.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 19 full time illustration student pic related 5 min sketch

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 13:29:09 2014 No.1686579 File: 1.02 MB, 3508x2480, shithead.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] > 22 > Full time Game- art student, Freelance Illustrator & Graphic Designer.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 13:36:09 2014 No.1686584 File: 249 KB, 1024x768, WIP.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >19 >NEET >WIP (any tips on how to make this clean? I suck at this part. And yes my construction is shit, I know)

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 13:50:09 2014 No.1686597 File: 284 KB, 720x1280, Sketch22303758.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >25 >full time student I wish I actually had something I could show for myself

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 13:50:40 2014 No.1686593 >>1686512 That dragon is really turning me on Can you draw it fucking another dragon?

Anonymous Sun Mar 23 14:02:39 2014 No.1686604
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>>1686330
>>18
>>doing foundation in art and design with specialization in fine art. i'm moving on to animation after.

i don't have any art on this comp, so here's a comic i like

i don't have any work on this comp, ut

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 14:04:58 2014 No.1686606 >>1686497 Holy crap, you're good. Do you have a dA or Tumblr?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 14:04:58 2014 No.1686607 >>1686584 clean is overrated, just lower the opacity and tie it down (trace over it with a cleaner line) afterward. you should focus more on those construction issues, learn some simplified anatomy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 14:11:28 2014 No.1686613 >>1686604 christ i fucked up the formatting on this

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 14:53:59 2014 No.1686648 File: 242 KB, 1092x766, recedng.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >20 >Animation Student >Work at a bar most evenings

>>	ayeeve orphanages Anonymous Sun Mar 23 15:07:29 2014 No.1686657 >27 >freelance artist >before that, language student >before that, inhouse artist >no sir can do, NDA's

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 15:10:29 2014 No.1686660 >27 >freelance >can't. NDA

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 15:11:58 2014 No.1686661 >>1686513 Even though jobs come scarce, you should definitely bump up those prices.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 15:33:26 2014 No.1686672 File: 219 KB, 864x518, con7site.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >18 >high school senior >attending art school in the fall, digital media design major

Anonymous Sun Mar 23 15:42:57 2014 No.1686685
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>20
>full time job wiring houses n junk with tv, data, phone, audio and security. this kills my hands.
>currently have no time at all for classes besides trying to learn from online sources.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 15:53:57 2014 No.1686695 23 freelance everything is nda >>1686513 damn son i had no idea you were doing these that cheap. triple those prices -at least-, esp if those pieces take more than one day each

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 15:54:27 2014 No.1686696 >>1686345 thats what the assement is a huge copy even my classmates do this to.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 15:56:27 2014 No.1686702 File: 282 KB, 985x2068, _20140323_125310.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >22. >Software Engineer. >Pic related. Damn you fuckers are talented.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 15:58:27 2014 No.1686704 >>1686702 >talent >not hard work

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 16:00:27 2014 No.1686708 >>1686704 Calling someone talented is different than saying they have natural talent, talent is something you can acquire so just take it as a compliment.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 16:09:27 2014 No.1686714 File: 252 KB, 595x499, dreamscape.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 24 Game testing. >Finishing complete pieces

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 16:09:27 2014 No.1686715 >>1686704 >semantics >autism

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 16:37:27 2014 No.1686733 File: 166 KB, 700x800, try18.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >28 >full time worker

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 17:06:57 2014 No.1686751 File: 246 KB, 1200x703, 7 copy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >24 >Freelance artist

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 18:00:57 2014 No.1686797 >>1686751 with those skills? you are obviously withholding vital information anon. living with parents?

>>	Meggs 1048 9958 1862 (Emolga, (...) Sun Mar 23 18:06:57 2014 No.1686802 File: 83 KB, 960x895, elkfront.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 24 Full time student. Latest bronze cast.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 18:07:57 2014 No.1686804 File: 2.41 MB, 3264x2448, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >19 >chemistry major, working part time at an art supply store, and over the summers full time as a kids art teacher

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 18:16:27 2014 No.1686810 >>1686797 >unemployed >freelance artist people like to say they're synonyms.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 18:31:27 2014 No.1686817 File: 660 KB, 1471x800, 1395613919707.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] > 20 (21 soon) > Student - Computer Science

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 18:38:57 2014 No.1686821 File: 254 KB, 2550x3300, creepygirl.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >18 >art school student

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 18:40:57 2014 No.1686824 >>1686247 >neet meter

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 18:40:57 2014 No.1686825 >>1686802 wow, i'd pay for something like that.

Anonymous Sun Mar 23 18:47:57 2014 No.1686829

>>1686695
>>1686661

I don't have that much control over it I guess. They come to me with a set price...the 400$ one was from Regis, then the bulk order is Alderac Entertainment Group. I took it on because it is lots of work and a fun set of assignments (almost every brief is pretty much an ideal assignment).

How do I go about getting better pay? I've only been accepting hte better paying ones, and already turned down lots of jobs that have offered like 100 or less (some drastically less, not sure what people are thinking). Seems like most places simply don't want to pay much. And I don't have a portfolio of things for concept art stuff and I can't do 3d, both of which drastically cut down on what work I can do. And then my work isn't yet at a level to get jobs from wizards or applibot or other better paying gigs. So I feel kind of stuck in this midrange price bracket...I plan on just working a ton until I get better skills and then better jobs. Brad Rigney was making below the poverty line as recently as like 2009 or 2010, and at that point he was way better than I am now.

Anyways, suggestions are welcome. I am in a bit of a sticky financial situation now, talked with my brother today, and it looks like I'll have to move in with him for a few months.So any tips on getting better pay and better work are appreciated. I'll probably be getting some more design work stuff in a month or two from the guy my gf works for because they will be doing a new game at that point. Other than that I don't have much on the horizon (also am mostly concerned with finishing all the work I have now).

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 18:54:27 2014 No.1686839 File: 124 KB, 1280x720, 1392391459296.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1686568 30 mins on a pile of shit how amazing. the 20 pile of shit was better than that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 18:58:27 2014 No.1686842 >>1686839 What's your beef stranger?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 19:17:58 2014 No.1686852 >>1686797 >>1686810 >post most recent art Didn't want to be a tryhard and pick a good one to post. [spoiler]but yeah I am cheating. Drawing mostly porn and living outside of the US. Rolling in dollar exchange dough[spoiler]

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 19:19:57 2014 No.1686854 File: 494 KB, 1785x2609, astronaut.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >19 >Illustration major, sophmore at art school >pic related, thumbnail from upcoming gig poster assignment, sans type

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 19:21:57 2014 No.1686857 >18 >sitting out a semester >Part time Lifeguard with shit pay

>>	FiRez !!tndrCZJHE+I Sun Mar 23 19:34:38 2014 No.1686866 File: 86 KB, 1096x909, Capture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >29 >CS Student/Full time job as IT assistant, translator and other operational tasks. I have a bunch of wip atm but this is the most finished one.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 19:55:08 2014 No.1686876 >>1686225 25, factory drone. The good news is if it doesn't work out, I have enough money to buy drugs to OD on or something explosive to put in my mouth.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 19:57:08 2014 No.1686880 25, factory drone If it doesn't work out, my emergency savings will be used to end my life :)

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 20:00:08 2014 No.1686882 >>1686880 You and I think the same way

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 20:08:38 2014 No.1686893 >18 >floor attendant at uni cafeteria, full time student, IT major >too lazy to dig some up

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 20:10:38 2014 No.1686894 >>1686880 by "it" you mean going pro in art? it's not a matter of "if", it's a matter of "when".

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 20:11:39 2014 No.1686895 >>1686866 You forgot to list a few: > huge faggot >attention whore > turd polisher

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 20:14:38 2014 No.1686899 >>1686895 the "huge faggot" seems unecessary anon. reserve that for the people coming in here asking for free tattoo designs. no regular poster who doesn't post toxic furry shit or absolutely atrocious stuff deserves to be called a huge faggot.

>>	Joe Action !kayQUACKiI Sun Mar 23 20:22:38 2014 No.1686901 File: 199 KB, 483x654, woman_portrait1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >22 >Animation Major, Illustration minor. Currently working towards a career in concept art.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 20:26:08 2014 No.1686904 >>1686895 calm down edgemaster general

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 20:30:08 2014 No.1686905 >>1686901 Not bad! Needs more control of the medium though and maybe stylize/simplify some more rather than making splotchy marks all over

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 20:33:38 2014 No.1686908 >>1686895 You mad and jelly.

>>	Joe Action !kayQUACKiI Sun Mar 23 20:53:39 2014 No.1686925 >>1686905 Uh, well that wasn't really my concern for 20 minutes of drawing. Thanks anyway

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 21:10:39 2014 No.1686939 >>1686562 Sheridan? looks like what they pump out

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 21:11:09 2014 No.1686942 File: 43 KB, 329x365, 1390547343297.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1686925 No problem, pretentious fag.

Anonymous Sun Mar 23 21:54:39 2014 No.1686994
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>>1686866
>>1686893
>>1686702

I'm going into the IT field as well in college.
The only challenging thing for me is memorizing codes.

I looked up a few websites to teach coding, but I just want to know is there a way you do it that's better.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 21:56:09 2014 No.1686997 >>1686994 codeacademy.com

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 22:08:25 2014 No.1687012 >>1686997 Thanks man

Anonymous Sun Mar 23 22:11:25 2014 No.1687016

>>1686994
>Memorizing code.
You're doing it wrong bro. As someone who is (presumably) practicing art, you should realize that code is no different than learning to draw, you can't simply memorize code to learn code no more than drawing circles will let you understand 3d form.

I had over 2 years of education in Computer Science, and I can honestly say the best way I learned to program was just making shit I found cool. For example, say you want to crawl the internet for MP3s from your spotify liked list. Instead of searching the web for a tool for that, just program it in java. You'll learn a lot this way. Also try writing code on paper then sticking it in a compiler and seeing how close it is to running.

I'm not sure how much code you need to know for IT though, IT is easy modo, you basically should just be very technically well rounded and prepared to be everyone's bitch when they can't figure out how to plug in their printer.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 22:16:55 2014 No.1687021 >>1686925 >it wasn't really my concern to draw and draw well fuck off jesus christ why are you here

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 22:26:55 2014 No.1687041 File: 163 KB, 1000x1616, Toplit-Cave.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 23 unemployed, waiting on going back to art school in the fall

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 22:46:55 2014 No.1687068 >>1686894 Yeah, when I make it, i'll give you the money to end your life :)

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 22:51:55 2014 No.1687074 File: 98 KB, 716x552, 1373396736431.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1687068 >:) WHOA WHOa WHoa Whoa, be careful with that there edge you got there bro.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 23:27:03 2014 No.1687106 File: 1.37 MB, 1200x1200, BBya.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hope i'm not too late >22 >Literally just moved back in with Ma, but full time art student. Last two finished ones. I wanna make it guys, but I'm scared.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 23:33:33 2014 No.1687111 >>1687074 it's all rainbows and puppies over here my friend!

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 23:35:33 2014 No.1687113 >>1687106 Don't be. This work is lovely. A little unfinished in areas, but that's why we practice.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 23 23:47:08 2014 No.1687129 >>1687113 Thank you. I'm a little relieved after moving actually though, it's a lot less stress and she's super supportive, so hopefully it will only help in my getting better.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 00:07:37 2014 No.1687160 >>1687129 dat feel when mine is kicking me out lol. was a "comfortable" last 4 months though. not paying rent gave me a bit of a financial safety net.

Anonymous Mon Mar 24 02:55:34 2014 No.1687243

>>1686829
Are these paintings 1 day jobs and there's dozens promised? otherwise you are getting ripped off by regis, it sounds like your attitude is a problem here and it's bringing you down. listen less from BS artists like rigney and ask for more money, sell yourself higher. i asked for 800 EU a piece from regis before my portfolio was anything other than a couple of studies 3 years ago, he wanted 600 and we settled at 700EU (1000$) - this was 3 day turnaround work too. It has very little to do with portfolio quality, the price you ask for dictates most of your work's value in his eyes, as long as you can then follow up with a rendered-out piece (and i know you can)

It would be hard to ask for that much extra pay from him now, and that guy has neverending supplies of work, I would seriously consider even making a new name and sending some other portfolio work asking for at least double your offer. This is why undercharging can be so lethal! i know guys working for him weekly for 3 or 4 years, making easily double their studio wage from just those freelance cards in the evenings.

>I plan on just working a ton until I get better skills and then better jobs
This is your problem, attitude problem man. You got into spectrum, while most clients don't want a quality even near your level. We cultivate such a small ego when trying to improve, especially on /ic/, but when you sell yourself you need to leave that at the door. It is also gonna frustrate you and lead to failed jobs and lost clients, if you don't have the confidence to see your work for what it is and know you can do better than a good job.
And you know I know your skills are easily wotc-worthy by now, that boat painting could be a $2000 piece with a few days more rendering.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 03:04:34 2014 No.1687248 File: 263 KB, 1000x600, fdsa.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >22 >Game prototyper.

Anonymous Mon Mar 24 03:06:04 2014 No.1687250

>>1687243

as a guy that's keeping an eye open for entry-tier-freelance-clients

who/what is regis? im really interested if he/they really have a neverending supply of work and seem willing to pay proper wages.

also how do you know who this anon >>1686497
is? is it andrew?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 03:08:34 2014 No.1687252 File: 229 KB, 978x764, pulsar.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >19 >none

Anonymous Mon Mar 24 03:16:34 2014 No.1687257

>>1687250
he's a distributor of card work for jp companies.
I can't say who I am bc we're discussing clients and anonymity is needed, but it should be pretty obvious from the 23yo/illustrator post i made, and you can drop me a line anytime you think your portfolio's ready and i'll set you up.

Anonymous Mon Mar 24 03:29:34 2014 No.1687261

>>1687257

how should it be obvious :O there's probably plenty of 23 year old illustrators hanging out here. i honestly have no clue. how should i drop you a line if know only that ur anon?

im probably not ready yet though. need a couple of weeks to polish my folio first.

Anonymous Mon Mar 24 03:37:04 2014 No.1687263

>26
>graphic designer
>jaded on the entire fucking industry, how everything is influenced by money and businesspeople whose job it is to crush creativity and originality every chance they get
>probably going to throw in the towel soon and try to move onto something else
>wish there was a field of art where you could actually create what you want to create and not starve to death

Anonymous Mon Mar 24 03:40:04 2014 No.1687265

>>1687263

there is bud. im glad i fucking dropped out of corporate design & advertising graphic design bitchass faggot elitist uni.

get cranking and build that top notch concept design folio. or illustration. srsly entry to mid level graphic design jobs in agencies are absolute fucking hell.

graphic design only starts being fun when you are established, independant, and people actually come to you asking you to be creative, not just to realize their (usually terrible) ideas and wishes.

Anonymous Mon Mar 24 03:51:34 2014 No.1687266

>>1687265
>graphic design only starts being fun when you are established

Don't find that to be true at all. I'm in the bay area and getting work easily with my portfolio, but every single place I've worked at is run by business/engineer assholes who think they understand design and end up shitting over everything you do. Not to mention the ridiculous obsession with money everybody has here. It feels like I work on fucking wall street.

Maybe I'm just in the wrong place or something?

Anonymous Mon Mar 24 03:58:34 2014 No.1687269

>>1687243
Damn man... well first off just to correct a tiny detail, Regis only gave me one job. I showed you already the painting I did for him, and it paid me 400$. I didn't even offer an amount, he just said that was how much the pay was and I accepted it. Didn't realize it was negotiable. The other stuff in the bulk order is not through Regis, but is a separate thing entirely, but yeah it is taking me more than a day per painting.

Anyways, regarding the attitude thing, Im not even sure how to like handle it. Like when someone tells me it's a flat rate of X$, do I just counter it with a higher amount? Won't they just walk away? Are all prices negotiable? How do you present yourself in emails and stuff then? I don't think I come across as having too small an ego (though in reality I don't feel my work is really as good as you think).

And I don't even think Spectrum is that special tbh, like I never got a single job offer because of it. Still waiting to hear whether I got into this year as well, I may not have even been accepted.

At this point like, I am lucky if I even hear back from emails I send out. I've been taking whatever work is willing to pay me enough that I make more than minimum wage. I feel lost in getting good paying things. Maybe we should have a proper chat on fb or something soon if you don't mind.

Anonymous Mon Mar 24 04:14:04 2014 No.1687272

>>1687269
pay is always negotiable, even if they say it is a flat rate say 'that's lower than my usual price, could you raise it to $(150%)? is that within your budget?'. As long as you are courteous and negotiate, the worst that can happen is you'll work for that first suggested price. usually you have to suggest the wage first and won't have that fallback anyway.

Spectrum is very special, maybe you need to take a good look at the very average majority of illustrators, your stuff is much better than the average. i'm obviously not convincing you, but it comes across in all your writing and even affects your art, and now it's losing you money, so this is your biggest problem, not your art quality. the guys earning the most money aren't the best artists, they are the best businessmen, guys who are full of confidence that they are good enough to ask for high wages.

yeah we can chat on facebook, i just thought anons browsing might learn something from this exchange.

>>1687261
well if you post your email briefly i can send an email and get in touch.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 04:18:34 2014 No.1687274 >>1686413 Tumblr link please? I really dug the Catherine piece. >>1686817 Ohhey my redjuice man.

Anonymous Mon Mar 24 04:44:04 2014 No.1687278
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>23
>finally started at a traditional art school. becoming acquainted with oils. definitely recommend.
>min wage
>bach of arts, livin with my mum.

>>1687272
what skill level does this regis prefer to work with, and do i match it?

Anonymous Mon Mar 24 05:00:34 2014 No.1687284

>>1687272
>i just thought anons browsing might learn something from this exchange.
As a random anon, I do appreciate hearing this exchange. Very informative stuff.

Side question: when you say that anon's boat painting needs a few more days of rendering, what does that entail exactly? Is it just a matter of zooming in and refining edges and indicating surface materials through texture, type of specular reflections, etc? What about that painting makes it look unfinished? I ask because I've consistently had a problem with polish, and I'm not 100% sure how I should be tackling that in an efficient manner. Is it possible to get a tighter finish without destroying larger brush strokes?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 05:18:34 2014 No.1687289 File: 939 KB, 1388x1180, wipadfadf.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >22 >unemployed temporarily, but getting a 911 dispatch job soon

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 05:22:34 2014 No.1687291 >>1687289 how do you go about getting a 911 dispatch job?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 05:27:34 2014 No.1687293 File: 104 KB, 500x600, tumblr_n2lfolnUq21qechzfo1_500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 22 Graphic Design Student

Anonymous Mon Mar 24 05:32:35 2014 No.1687294

>>1687291
your local dispatch will usually have a website, and post when they're hiring for positions
then you call the place to set up an appointment to take a pretest, it's mostly listening and remembering information, and tests your ability to type accurately.

then IF you pass the test, you'll probably get invited to do a sit along, which is where you shadow a dispatcher and listen to actual calls and ask questions
THENNN if they recommend you, you get to do interviews. there's 2 interviews, a panel interview and a one on one. then you have to pass a psych eval and a background check and then boom, you're on your way to $23 / hr. with paid training.

pro tip: they like people with clerical experience, and all of the emergency calls are scripted (you just click on shit and read a script while you dispatch an ambulance.)

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 05:37:37 2014 No.1687295 >>1687293 Cute!!! I love giraffes

Anonymous Mon Mar 24 05:41:07 2014 No.1687298
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>>1687278
the level attached, or within a year of it. no, you'll need another couple years of daily digital painting.

>>1687284
either a lot of people ask this or you're who i'm thinking of . it's hard to explain, you simply know it when you see it, perhaps look at more finished work on cghub. there are too many brushstrokes visible and slightly messy areas, edges could be tightened up etc, maybe a bit of detail on the clouds, and a punch of contrast, bright red softlight spotlight or something.
these guys won't buy visible brushstrokes unless you can handle them incredibly well, they want your typical applibot style over-rendering

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 05:43:37 2014 No.1687299 >>1686258 aren't you an art teacher?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 05:49:37 2014 No.1687301 >>1687295 Excuse me while I cry a single tear... (I made the neck long because a normal neck felt too human, and less of that of a higher being)

Anonymous Mon Mar 24 06:03:38 2014 No.1687303

>>1687298
I don't think I've asked this before, but I could be mistaken.

Thanks for elaborating on that boat painting. If I understand what you're talking about, a lot of the polishing would be refining edges and concealing brushwork and not necessarily more details globally. I'll do more browsing on cghub and try to be more objective with what I see, rather than saving everything I like and never analyzing it.

Thanks again for the insight!

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 08:56:28 2014 No.1687363 >>1686702 Yet I'd say that your work is one of the most appealing pieces on this thread.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 12:33:43 2014 No.1687460 >>1686504 van gogh didn't start painting until his early 20's, just push yourself and you can make it too, but putting limits on yourself will always hold you back.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 12:35:42 2014 No.1687461 >>1686225 http://myanimelist.net/animelist/Ruggarell

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 12:44:42 2014 No.1687466 >18 >Full time college student, undecided major so far, might end up in animation or film depending on how good I can get at drawing in the next couple years.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 12:53:42 2014 No.1687469 >>1687298 >they want your typical applibot style over-rendering well fuck. there geos that potential client. im the biggest jaime jones wannabe on this board.

>>	Rynn 4656-7108-0037 Mon Mar 24 13:03:12 2014 No.1687474 >>1686593 That's a request I've never gotten before. I'm considering making money on furaffinity though, so I gues it's good.

Anonymous Mon Mar 24 13:12:42 2014 No.1687479

>18
>Soon I'll be finishing this career school that is web design oriented
>I haven't made shit for a long time and just found out over again how awesome drawing was/is. I used to draw a lot back when I was in primary and middle school (art oriented class).

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 13:19:12 2014 No.1687485 >18 >Going to college this fall. >I draw as an outlet for stress. >>1686804 Yo! I'm going to major in Chem!

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 13:20:12 2014 No.1687487 File: 82 KB, 500x708, tumblr_n2xwfbUgGy1rhzbgfo1_500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >20 >art student pic is today's model study

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 13:53:12 2014 No.1687504 File: 387 KB, 1366x696, g.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1686225 >21 >Part time student (Computer Science), part time working as a math teacher >My most recent doodle

Anonymous Mon Mar 24 14:17:49 2014 No.1687521
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21
Illustration commissions mostly and freelance designer for indie games.

Not making a lot but considering I've only been serious for 14 months I'd say I'm well on my way. Goal this year is to get a domain name and have a good portfolio made so I can get m-muhh jobs.

Anonymous Mon Mar 24 14:38:06 2014 No.1687540

>>1687469
I don't understand why you seem upset. You would wield more power if you were good with environments, while a lot of these talented but hacky guys make the same beast fantasy art for a failed mmo. It bugs me that I even have to preface talented, because I know one of you cunts in here is a big fan of that work.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 14:45:06 2014 No.1687544 >>1686810 Cool! You'll probably like the organic chem stuff. Drawing all the mechanisms and molecules is very visual stuff. The names and drawings of the molecules are like a fun visual code.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 14:47:06 2014 No.1687546 >>1686817 Replied to the wrong post. Meant to reply to>>1686810

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 14:52:06 2014 No.1687550 >>1687544 >>1687546 Jesus fucking Christ I hate trying to post from my phone Meant to respond to>>1687485

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 15:10:06 2014 No.1687576 >>1687550 I can't wait to get to it. These last few weeks in high school feel like a waste of time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 15:10:36 2014 No.1687572 File: 263 KB, 787x1051, up.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Be >24 >full time graphic designer >wishin I could draw better >always practicing

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 15:17:06 2014 No.1687587 File: 2.10 MB, 2448x3264, 20140324_151352.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 19 Currently nike sales associate (guy that helps you find what sneaker you want) Soon to be animation freshman at SVA this coming fall

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 15:21:06 2014 No.1687588 File: 59 KB, 624x960, 1395688894002.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >17 >Student/Daycare Worker >Trying to figure out how construction works

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 15:26:06 2014 No.1687591 >>1687587 Got a site we can check out your animation on?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 17:27:07 2014 No.1687692 25 Part-time Illustration major, work in trampoline park Currently in 1 year crunch to get a job in the illustration industry.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 17:47:36 2014 No.1687701 File: 400 KB, 968x1296, bild (3).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >17 >School Nature/science

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 18:16:36 2014 No.1687711 >>1687295 why don't you actually say what's wrong instead of being a passive aggressive little bitch~!!! :) <3

Anonymous Mon Mar 24 18:19:06 2014 No.1687714
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>19
>Technically none?

Started drawing back in May of last year. Had never drawn before that, so it was new and kind of fun but really frustrating at the same time. Tend to be hard on myself even though I was just starting, and I still am most of the time.

Quit my job at Target because I hated everyone's creepy kindergarten teacher personalities and the way they bullshit customers in the electronics section. Mom kicked me out of the house when she found out. Moved in with my dad and started focusing more on drawing. That was the end of November.

My dad seemed fine with it until he got drunk on Superbowl night. Offered me a job at his company, but it wasn't something I felt comfortable doing and I was really starting to get interested in drawing. He called me a no talent hack, said that I'd regret everything, and when I told him "If that happens, then that's fine. It's better to just try and see" he punched me out. Packed up my stuff and was homeless for a week.

Moved in with a friend, he's fine with me living here for now.

Since then, I've been doing my best to draw 8-12 hours every day. Taking a break since I've been feeling burnt out.

Can't go to college because my high school royally fucked me and aren't backing up what their own syllabus said about what classes are considered certain kinds of credits.

Sorry for the life story, but I've been feeling kind of stressed lately.

Haven't seen my sisters in months and it feels like my family abandoned me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 18:22:06 2014 No.1687715 >>1687714 And for the record, I'm not proud of that drawing by any means. The anatomy and proportions are god awful, which is why I'm focusing on studies as much as I can.

Anonymous Mon Mar 24 18:24:06 2014 No.1687716

>>1686708
>>1686715

>>1686704 is right. calling someone "talented" is the equivalent of calling someone lucky. i let it go when people dont know better, but artists calling other artists talented should be perceived as a plain insult. (considering the skill of the guy who posted it this doesnt necessarily apply to him. also, im not the guy you replied to) talent is the most misconceived notion in art, and the reason why so many give up and fail so easily. you should know better than disregarding >>1686704 just like that.

Anonymous Mon Mar 24 18:39:06 2014 No.1687720
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26
Accounting and auditing student.

Getting my master's degree in a couple months, then trying to become professional as a musician in the next 2-3 years. In the mean time I'll get some cash to build a proper music studio. My drawing is pretty much defined to pretty chicks and learning anatomy for the moment. Also, still struggling to get comfortable with digital painting. (pic related)

>>1687714
Hang in there, slow and steady wins the race. Also, not sure but 8-12 hours sounds like a lot, don't go Algen on us.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 18:40:06 2014 No.1687721 >>1687720 Algen? Don't know the reference...

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 18:48:36 2014 No.1687729 >>1687720 Oh wait, as in appleflinger? What happened to make that a bad thing, isn't he pretty good?

Anonymous Mon Mar 24 18:53:36 2014 No.1687733

>>1687721
Algenpfleger. He had a similar schedule as you and is now fucked with CTS.

Tehmeh said it quite well when he posted about studying efficiently. (does anyone here have a screencap of this btw? i checked mine and cant find it) The gist of what he said was that you can achieve much by "only" practicing with the pen in your hand for 2-3 hours a day. Learning to SEE and UNDERSTAND is something that you can do pretty much all the time, and is a vital ingedient in gittin gud.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 18:56:36 2014 No.1687734 >>1687733 ... I feel really stupid right now. Sorry but what's CTS?

Anonymous Mon Mar 24 18:57:06 2014 No.1687736

>>1687714
When people say they spend 8-12 hours, surely they mean most of that time is spent rendering? on a painting? Because this picture certainly shows you have knowedge of painting in the software, even if you're unhappy with structure and anatomy.

I myself Push myself to draw at least 2-3 hours, but I always freeze up on painting. I think it intimidates me more. So maybe that's why I'm not hitting the 8 hour mark people talk about?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 19:00:36 2014 No.1687738 >>1687736 >>1687733 here. What the "the 8 hour mark" and who talks about it?

Anonymous Mon Mar 24 19:02:06 2014 No.1687741

>>1687733
So practice efficiently rather than a lot... can't I do both? I don't want to spend too much time leaning on the people around me, I don't feel good about it. The sooner I can support myself, the better.

And CTS? Carpal tunnel syndrome? Damn... is that common in artists?

>>1687736
I rarely use photoshop to draw, and that was my first time playing with color since December. I've been drawing almost entirely traditionally for several months now.

It depends on the day, but I'll typically do an hour or two of gesture drawing, study some porportions for a while, do some sketches and life studies, copy something I like from another artist for a bit, study the lineworks and stuff like that from other artists, read whatever PDF I pull up, and then do some more anatomy/proportion studies.

Sometimes I spend more time in other places, so I can't really say for sure how much I focus on what.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 19:10:36 2014 No.1687744 >>1687741 oh i see. It is nice for despite how you feel about it. You got some nice edges and color for one of the rare times you were using PS. >>1687714 Rough shit man. I've got it good, and it's making me soft.

Anonymous Mon Mar 24 19:15:07 2014 No.1687747

>>1687741
>can't I do both?
Yes of course you can. But as soon as you lose focus and it becomes mechanical you're not using your time as efficiently as you could be. While I have no doubt in your determination, I have doubt that you are the only human in the world who is able to stay on high alert for 12 hours at a time. Those hours many spend mindlessly grinding could be used a lot better by e.g. watching a documentary or doing something for your physical fitness which will refuel their mental one.

>is this common in artists
Very. Also, your shoulder, neck and eyes are at a serious risk when you do this kind of hours. That's cause we're not machines yet.. Just spend an hour reading up on these things, it'll be worth it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 19:18:36 2014 No.1687751 >19 >High School Had to take 2 years off because shit happened.

Anonymous Mon Mar 24 19:20:36 2014 No.1687753

>>1687744
I don't know, I think it has some problems with value in some places by the breasts, dress, and face, and problems with color in others with again her face and other parts of the skin. Maybe I'm just being picky, but I feel like there's a lot to be improved on in every part.

>I've got it good, and it's making me soft.
I think that's something you should be happy for. I don't think I'm a particularly strong or tough person, I just adapt to whatever situation is given to me whether it's good or bad. Having it good isn't a bad thing if you stay a good person. It's about how you react to things around you, and not so much what you're given.

>>1687747
Well, I try to make sure I don't do it in one go. It's more like I'll study something for two hours, take a break, study something for two more, play a game of League, study for one or two more, rinse, repeat. Still, if it's just going to cause problems to both my progress and my health maybe I should try and tone things down...

Anonymous Mon Mar 24 19:24:06 2014 No.1687756

>>1687753
It's good you make pauses. And it's not definite that you'll harm yourself. You just have to realize the danger of ignoring these things, and also the fact that "studying" does not necessarily involve holding a pen in your hand. All the best to you man.

Anonymous Mon Mar 24 19:24:37 2014 No.1687754

>>1687753
Oh of course there's always stuff to improve. I'm not completely coddling you haha.

And yeah I've got a good family. But I'm still struggling to make money and I've become a real burden on them. It's not as easy as moving out, cause I'll be homeless. But to not have to worry about being booted out causes me to go "I think I'll watch some TV and go to sleep early" I do have a part time job though, not completely a bum.

Anonymous Mon Mar 24 19:30:06 2014 No.1687758

>>1687754
Lol I was homeless for a week so trust me when I say you're fine doing what you're doing. If you are feeling like you're a burden to them, try to do more to help around the house. Even just a little cleaning here and there would probably make them feel pretty good.

>>1687756
I'd say I'll keep an eye on my health, but I know I'm already not very healthy. Still, thanks for all the advice. You brought up a lot of things I should have been thinking about but never did.

Thanks for the advice guys, I'll try to pay more attention to the quality of my studies and figure things out from there.

Anonymous Mon Mar 24 19:30:37 2014 No.1687759

DISCLAIMER FOR ALL Y'ALL
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CTS is just another reason to NOT work with transfer / pen pressure opacity. the downward pushing motion is very straining for your wrist. learn to paint opaquely and/or to control pressure with the number keys.

you can still turn it on ocassionally for when you need to make that swishy stroke, but having it permanently on is a surefire way to cripple the hand that pays your rent. i speak from experience.

end of disclaimer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 19:31:06 2014 No.1687761 >>1687758 thanks anon, you're only 19 but you give me hope now. I'm gonna work harder.

Anonymous Mon Mar 24 19:35:36 2014 No.1687765

>>1687759
mmm... this sounds a lot like a witch burning to me. There's no reason not to use a tool that's available to you out of fear of carpal tunnel. If that were true, the pressure differences from pencil sketching would be exactly the same kind of stress to your wrist. People react differently to different kinds of stress. Blaming it specifically on one feature that's key to drawing is a bit overblown, whether it's from experience or not.

>>1687761
Glad I could help, keep at it as much as you can.

Anonymous Mon Mar 24 19:54:37 2014 No.1687776

>>1687765

well ofcourse the tool doesn't magically cause CTS. but its not comparable to trad media, because you hold the pen very differently.

if you insist on using transfer all day erry day, make sure you adjust the pressure curve so that you reach 100% pressure without having to exert alot of force. i tried this, but it felt like i lacked control. so i went full opaque. havent looked back since.

Anonymous Mon Mar 24 19:58:06 2014 No.1687783

>>1687776
Carpal Tunnel comes from congenital predisposition more than anything else.

"There is little clinical data to prove whether repetitive and forceful movements of the hand and wrist during work or leisure activities can cause carpal tunnel syndrome. Other disorders such as bursitis and tendonitis have been associated with repeated motions performed in the course of normal work or other activities.. Writer's cramp may also be brought on by repetitive activity." - National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 20:01:06 2014 No.1687786 File: 99 KB, 1218x691, vitalism.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1686225 >22 as of friday >artist

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 20:05:06 2014 No.1687788 >>1686437 you are not going to make it as an artist. Source: am a successful painter

Anonymous Mon Mar 24 20:07:06 2014 No.1687792 [DELETED]

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>mfw I'm the older one here and I just starting learning the basics seriously about one month ago because I understood that drawing is what I really want to do pretty late (was doing music and movies on the side so I pretty much put drawing aside for very long)

Aside that, 33 and working as a night watchman (which is pretty cool since I don't have a lot of real work to do to be paid, I'm alone and can draw as much as I want, I hope this'll help me catch up a little)

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 20:07:36 2014 No.1687791 >>1687788 >>1686437 ignore that anon, you just gotta push the training into high gear

Anonymous Mon Mar 24 20:09:06 2014 No.1687794
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>mfw I'm the oldest one here and I just started learning the basics seriously about one month ago because I understood pretty late that drawing is what I really want to do with my life (was doing music and movies on the side so I pretty much put drawing aside for very long)

Aside that, 33 and working as a night watchman (which is pretty cool since I don't have a lot of real work to do to be paid, I'm alone and can draw as much as I want, I hope this'll help me catch up a little)

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 20:11:36 2014 No.1687796 >>1687783 reploce CTS with tendonitis or RSI then

Anonymous Mon Mar 24 20:14:36 2014 No.1687798

>>1687791
yeah I'm sure you have a decade of success and a BFA in Art to back you up. I don't like encouraging people that aren't going to make it. It's false hope, and it can be way worse than the truth. This "artist" is not good enough to live off their art. It's better they accept that now instead of get their hopes crushed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 20:18:36 2014 No.1687805 >>1687798 >IS not good enough You're not very clever are you? Go play somewhere else kiddo.

Anonymous Mon Mar 24 20:19:36 2014 No.1687806

>>1687783
>Other disorders such as bursitis and tendonitis have been associated with repeated motions performed in the course of normal work or other activities

Different anon, but I get pretty bad tendonitis in my extensors. Not as bad as CTS, but it can still stop you from working.

For anyone worried about their wrist health, take breaks, stretch often, lift weights, and avoid drawing with undue strain/tension in your arm. I'd also avoid chronic wrist movements, and try to keep your wrist in the neutral position as much as possible.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 20:27:36 2014 No.1687813 >>1687805 >decade long professional with BFA >kiddo yeah IS. Maybe if they work on it for 20 years, they might be able to go pro. But I see no evidence that they can make it, and you shouldn't fuck them up with false hope.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 20:38:22 2014 No.1687830 >>1686504 "The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is right now"

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 20:40:52 2014 No.1687833 >>1686939 Do you mean that in a good way or a bad way? I was seriously considering applying their

Anonymous Mon Mar 24 20:51:52 2014 No.1687843

Mankind needs more >>1687830 and less >>1687813. I hate the fact that "being realistic" has become synonymous with "I can't do it" instead of "I CAN do it".

After all, I've met enough bitter people like >>1687813 in my life and I've shat on their "opinions" often enough to find that I can do it anyway. Now fuck off kiddo.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 20:55:22 2014 No.1687850 >>1687798 sounds like someone didn't get a dicking in their shitter last night. :^)

Anonymous Mon Mar 24 21:19:52 2014 No.1687884

>>1687813
>implying a BFA is worth anything.
Congrats, you wasted money and 4 years getting something that means nothing.

I'm more surprised you've sat on your BFA that long. What's the matter, can't get your MFA? Are you "just another artist that can't make it?"

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 21:25:52 2014 No.1687890 >>1687884 Why do you think he's so mad?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 21:27:52 2014 No.1687894 >>1687890 I wasted money on a BFA and even I'm not as mad as that other anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 21:30:22 2014 No.1687896 >>1687890 It's hilarious that he thinks BFA = Successful.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 21:31:22 2014 No.1687898 >>1687884 I'm a professional artist, I'm using my BFA

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 21:33:52 2014 No.1687900 >>1687898 Having a worthless sheet of paper didn't get you where you are. You'll go nowhere if that's what you really think.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 21:34:22 2014 No.1687902 >>1687900 he's already somewhere you idiot

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 21:35:22 2014 No.1687905 >>1687902 Resorting to samefagging so soon?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 21:36:52 2014 No.1687908 >>1687902 Being professional is all he wants to be? Sounds pretty shitty to me. I've seen some terrible professionals. Professional just means that it's his profession. That doesn't make him good at what he does.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 21:37:52 2014 No.1687912 >>1687908 living off my art means I'm good at it

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 21:39:52 2014 No.1687915 >>1687912 No, not at all. It just means someone paid you. People get paid for bad work all the time, all that shows is that you know how to network.

Halp Mon Mar 24 21:40:22 2014 No.1687917

>>1687884
Having 4 years of intense training, fantastic artistic community, as well as access to school resources even after graduation (career services, websites like linda, etc) really made my BFA worth a lot to me. I still cannot find an artistic community online or offline that even comes close to comparing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 21:42:52 2014 No.1687920 >>1687915 so you're saying being a professional doesn't mean I can tell who else could cut it as a professional? No. I'm just sharing my opinion. They won't make it. There's no reason I shouldn't be honest so they don't get their hopes up.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 21:43:22 2014 No.1687921 >>1687915 Are you the same guy shitting up the drawthread right now?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 21:45:22 2014 No.1687923 >>1687921 There's always some angry anon shitting up a thread somewhere. Just ignore them.

Anonymous Mon Mar 24 21:46:52 2014 No.1687925

>>1687917
In other words, your BFA got you networking which is perfectly fine. But that's all it got you. It didn't inherently make you a better artist, you did that.

>>1687920
The fact that you think you can tell who will make it as a professional based on their beginning works shows just how much you don't know.

>>1687921
I don't care about drawthreads.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 21:53:52 2014 No.1687930 >>1687016 Thanks for this info as well. Do you know if I need to know all the languages?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 21:54:22 2014 No.1687932 >>1686824 what does that mean?

Halp Mon Mar 24 21:58:52 2014 No.1687936
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>>1687925
No, not at all. I would never have gotten as far as I have without the intense classes and variety of study, having projects due every 2-3 weeks in 2-3 classes a semester really forces you to work hard and learn quickly. Studying by yourself is a perfectly fine approach and works for many people, but having the amazing personal critique and peer support multiplies the effect of any effort put in.
Additionally you have a large (2,500 in my case) body of people who are all more or less in your skill range, that you see and work with on a daily basis. You will be insanely hard pressed to find anything like that anywhere else apart from a scholastic community like that.
I also have access to so many resources that have helped me get jobs or knowledge, and I have access to them for the rest of my life.
I really don't know how you can say that all you get from a BFA is networking.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 22:01:22 2014 No.1687939 >>1687936 If thats your work ask the school if they give refunds

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 22:02:23 2014 No.1687940 >>1687936 Literally everything you just talked about aside from the work ethic, which by the way can be developed easily by someone self-teaching, is networking. But sure, your money was well spent. Whatever makes you feel better.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 22:04:52 2014 No.1687941 >>1687936 >>1687925 etc. Not OP but you guys are completely derailing the thread now. Please just make a new one to discuss that question. It'll take 5 seconds. Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 24 22:09:22 2014 No.1687946 >>1687940 You're trying too hard to bring him down. Makes you feel less miserable?

Anonymous Mon Mar 24 22:13:22 2014 No.1687950

>>1687946
I'm not trying to bring him down at all. I already said that he got something out of it, and if he thinks it was well spent, then it was. All I did was point out the flaws he had in his thinking since he believed school was the only thing that made him better at art.

>>	Halp Mon Mar 24 22:22:52 2014 No.1687960 >>1687950 I never said it was the only thing that made me better, not even close. I said that the structure allows for more focused and rapid growth. Of course it was my own personal work ethic and dedication that made me develop as an artist.

Anonymous Tue Mar 25 00:50:09 2014 No.1688066

>>1687576
>>1687576
I felt the same way but now I miss senior year a bit. Just relax and enjoy the spring as it comes. Go sit outside in the sun with friends and let time pass without caring. If you have a park near you go and sit there and draw for a whole day with no thoughts about the future. That's the best way to live if you can afford to do it :)

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 25 00:58:09 2014 No.1688070 File: 352 KB, 849x1080, The Old Lie_Colour.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 22 Former animation student Currently Fine Arts student Part-time security guard

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 25 01:15:39 2014 No.1688078 >>1688070 Hey man, I think that piece is really great! I think the disembodied penis on the floor is detracting though. Like, it would be completely obvious what's going on if it were just removed, and, in my opinion improved. Either way, keep it up!

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 25 01:18:09 2014 No.1688080 >>1688070 you have talent, and judging by your tumblr, serious brain issues as well

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 25 01:38:40 2014 No.1688087 >>1688078 Sweet, thanks for the advice! That's actually an easy fix. >>1688080 Thank you

Anonymous Tue Mar 25 01:44:40 2014 No.1688089
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>>1686497
>>1686513
>>1686829
>>1687243

What that guy said, just raise your prices. I can't name names, but from the art directors I've talked to they WANT you to shoot higher. It's part of their job to cut low, and only when you push higher is when they bring it to their editor and pitch your work as being worth it. It can't happen if you're just taking it every time because no editor wants to pay you more if they can help it. Seriously, you'll surprise yourself.

>>1686528
qt springs 4 lyfe

Also:

23,
Freelance doodler
Painting for 3 years come this May.

Most recent is more a finished sketch than anything, but here you go.

tehmeh !!ikpS7QjdRfb Tue Mar 25 02:02:09 2014 No.1688096

to the guys talking about CTS and wrist issues.

>Algenpfleger. He had a similar schedule as you and is now fucked with CTS.
it was tendonitis, which is more akin to RSI. But these are allayed by simply gripping the pen as lightly as you can - in the words of jeff watts (i think it was?) like a passing breeze could knock it from your grip. I used to suffer from severe RSI, was on CTS medication, and this little practice completely saved my wrists. Many beginners grip their pen too hard, and how does that affect your drawing? The only difference is you're constantly tensing those muscles for no reason.

Lifting some not overly heavy weights about once in a while keeps the muscles and CNS in check to stave off any RSI, cheaper and laster-longing than a powerball I find.

Anonymous Tue Mar 25 02:04:09 2014 No.1688098
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>18
>Student with on-campus job, Computer Engineering

i hardly get any time to draw anymore. Sometimes I wonder if i made the right decision to go with engineering over art.

I think I did make the correct decision, however

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 25 02:08:39 2014 No.1688099 >>1688096 >and this little practice completely saved my wrist Sorry, which exercise? Or do you just mean checking yourself to make sure your grip isn't too tight

>>	tehmeh !!ikpS7QjdRfb Tue Mar 25 02:15:39 2014 No.1688100 >>1688099 just having no grip yeah. the weights/powerball thing is just if RSI crops up from too many hours as well.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 25 02:17:39 2014 No.1688101 File: 624 KB, 2000x2000, whale.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1686225 >>20 >>Comp. Sci. Eng. >>I'm the founder of whalursday on /b/. It's a big deal. See all you fuckers Thursday.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 25 02:23:09 2014 No.1688102 >>1688098 damn. thats really really nice. and i am one of the guys who instantly hide the stylization thread and all of it's offspring.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 25 02:42:16 2014 No.1688114 >>1688102 i'm glad you like it hopefully i can draw more soon, experimenting with lineart instead of painting is fun

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 25 04:39:34 2014 No.1688174 File: 1.41 MB, 1692x2196, sickness.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 21 i dont have a job. (medical issues) i would like to eventually work in video game design. we'll see how that goes..

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 25 06:39:28 2014 No.1688194 >>1686251 tryam

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 25 07:00:58 2014 No.1688200 Why in these threads it's always like 90% is 18-21 and there is almost nobody 22-25 and then again we have many people around 25, or around 27. What does happen between 22-25? I'm going to be 22 soon and I might be missing something.

Anonymous Tue Mar 25 07:33:59 2014 No.1688206
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20, art student. 2nd year of my 5 year course, i'll pick illustration next year. it's a reputed school for illustration... i'd like to make comics, but it won't be easy.
did these for a vidyagame assignment. what would you improve?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 25 07:34:28 2014 No.1688207 >>1688200 the naivety of youth fades and people go off to get real jobs or real schooling, then ~5 years later people get bored with their real life and start fantasizing about being an artist again.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 25 07:47:28 2014 No.1688213 >>1688207 hahaha. this so much.

Anonymous Tue Mar 25 08:01:21 2014 No.1688222
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>>1688100
The guy you quoted here.
Thanks for the clarification. And your post makes much sense, in sketching it definitely works for me. But how do you then go about your pen pressure in your brush settings when you're actually painting? Does that mean that >>1687759 is the only way to go? Pic related.

Anonymous Tue Mar 25 08:42:37 2014 No.1688233

>>1688206
Your linework is charming, it reminds me of Roald Dahl's characters.
But you've got far too much detail covering the canvas, my eye doesn't know where to look. Try toning it down a bit, with only a few areas of concentrated detail.
You need to work on colour theory a lot, your choice of colours is atrocious.
Keep it up, buddy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 25 09:55:56 2014 No.1688250 >>1688222 No. Just draw like normal, most of these guys are overly paranoid. Look at streams of people like Artgerm or anyone else remotely well known for their digital work and you'll see they use transfer.

Anonymous Tue Mar 25 15:05:47 2014 No.1688439
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>>1688233
yup, and i'm not even colorblind! i tried to make something simple to stay in the spirit of this particular project, but i really suck at colors. these are just meant do be backgrounds.
thanks for the appreciation!
i have to put colors on these two now... if you have any particular, simple advice crossing your mind that i can put in action right now in order to not fuck them up like the first three, i'll gladly take it.

Anonymous Tue Mar 25 15:09:17 2014 No.1688442

>>1688222
>>1688250
What he said. Turning off transfer can be useful as a learning exercise, but it shouldn't be the only way you paint. The degree of control we have over digital tools is already less than the traditional tools we're trying to emulate - why would you want to limit that even further?

As long as there's no undue strain or bad ergonomics at play, you'll be fine.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 25 15:11:47 2014 No.1688446 >>1688442 >>1688233 Thanks you guys.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 25 15:57:17 2014 No.1688480 >>1688070 interesting change of majors. im currently a fine arts student who's hoping to be an animation student next year and i'm curios, why the change?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 25 15:57:47 2014 No.1688479 >>1688096 can confirm my first coupe months of all day everyday drawing I was pressing ridiculously hard + death grip and it really fucked up my hand I increased the sensitivity of my tablet and things have been a lot better

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 25 16:11:47 2014 No.1688487 >>1688089 who's this by?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 25 16:30:17 2014 No.1688497 File: 193 KB, 500x539, tumblr_n20utcBJbx1s1tl0lo1_500.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >20 >Trying to get into college. AGAIN >Some fanart I don't frequent /ic/ often tho

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 25 16:31:47 2014 No.1688498 >>1688487 my butt buddy sprias i think

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 25 16:34:47 2014 No.1688500 File: 720 KB, 2000x2000, cmfrt.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >17 >student

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 25 17:04:01 2014 No.1688525 >>1688500 Enjoy your ban

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 25 17:07:01 2014 No.1688530 >>1688525 That would make it easier to get back to drawing

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 25 17:28:01 2014 No.1688552 >>1688487 Its probably sprias judging by info/painting style.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 25 18:10:31 2014 No.1688600 >>1688089 mah nig sprias

Anonymous Tue Mar 25 18:18:43 2014 No.1688609

>>1687936
Its so messed up you told that other anon they can't make it when this picture shows very little skill and represents your education 4 years in while the other anons shows the same if not more skill and is probably at the beginning of their education.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 25 19:51:43 2014 No.1688661 28 between jobs trying to get better, so no reason in posting recent art.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 25 19:55:13 2014 No.1688663 >>1686751 >>1686852 InCase, is that you? Damn, didn't realize you lurked /ic/. Either that or just some anon pretending.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 25 20:50:43 2014 No.1688696 >>1686895 not that guy but that piece is the result of a sycra tutorial. you are an aspiedragon

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 25 21:44:13 2014 No.1688737 >>1686255 dude this is so beautiful you really have talent dont ever feel like you're nothing

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 25 21:54:43 2014 No.1688749 15 I do some free lancing website designs here and there. Posting from my phone, I might upload something later though.

Joe Action !kayQUACKiI Wed Mar 26 00:40:39 2014 No.1688851

>>1686942
>>1687021
Woah, woah, woah. You guys are blowing my post way out of proportion.

For one, saying "stylize" is probably the vaguest suggestion you could give anyone. Second, what I mean by my concern about the drawing is that I'd rather capture the essence of what I'm viewing instead of going into the gritty details right away, especially with such a time limit. That doesn't mean I wasn't trying to draw my subject well.
It isn't pretentious to clarify something like that. If anything, it would make it more understandable as to why it looks the way it does. I never implied that it deserved your praise, but I didn't find your criticism to be useful to me in the least.
So quit trolling over something so minimal.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 26 00:48:09 2014 No.1688856 >>1688851 Kill yourself >>1688749 Enjoy your ban you moron

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 26 01:28:09 2014 No.1688877 >>1688194 zdrastvuite

Anonymous Wed Mar 26 01:40:09 2014 No.1688882

Man, /ic/... I love you guys so much.

Just the way this board operates. I often forget that there are real people behind the art that gets posted. That some of you guys are younger and better, older and just starting, or what ever it is.

I don't know about anyone else, but this thread hit me a bit like a shock. I just want to get better at what I do and, as someone not surrounded by artists, you guys really keep me on my toes and motivated to keep going.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 26 02:23:45 2014 No.1688889 >>1688882 amen. but dat feel when im close to graduating from /ic/ university of the arts, and not once has based tehmeh commented on my work. im heartbroken. maybe he did as anon though, you never know.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 26 04:55:51 2014 No.1688932 File: 343 KB, 1280x720, normal_pacificrim_6707.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1686568 >pacific rim muh niggah.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 26 06:16:25 2014 No.1688951 File: 822 KB, 1114x1165, myshit.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >20 >Unemployed art school graduate, trying to get into 3D modeling >Doing commissions and designing clothes for some pocket change

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 26 07:05:25 2014 No.1688958 >>1688951 ew, did they actually teach you to paint in art school? you don't treat light very well

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 26 07:39:55 2014 No.1688962 >>1688958 oops i didn't mean to phrase that as mean as it came out. i like your shit really.

Anonymous Wed Mar 26 09:06:45 2014 No.1688993

>>1688958
>>1688962
They did, but I was an idiot and disregarded a lot of the very basic lessons on color theory and shit because I was 16 and thought I was ~talented~ and didn't need to pay attention on "kiddie shit" like that.
I wasted the first two years of art school to be honest, my basics are crap.
I wish I had the motivation to study the basics and really improve but I don't.
Oh well.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 26 09:08:45 2014 No.1688996 >>1688993 tl;dr I'm gonna stay as a mediocre artist forever because I don't care enough to have any kind of drive for improvement.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 26 09:27:45 2014 No.1689003 >>1688996 Thanks, I was wondering.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 26 10:33:15 2014 No.1689031 >>1688993 >>1688996 What do you have to lose at this point? Just nut up and learn what you need.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 26 10:40:45 2014 No.1689040 File: 224 KB, 579x581, 1395844832426.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >15 >Student Yeah Im pretty shit

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 26 10:42:15 2014 No.1689044 >>1689040 >underage >b&

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 26 10:52:15 2014 No.1689048 File: 146 KB, 500x1000, fju01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 18 Highschool student in totally unrelated profile. Shooting for some art school though, I want to improve. As of latest art, I'm trying to learn value and composition.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 26 10:54:45 2014 No.1689049 File: 864 KB, 1304x890, Walldecorfinish02.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 23 Unemployed My art is pretty simple and lazy, but I am a crafts person, so everything i create ends up 3D from clay, wood or metal.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 26 12:09:46 2014 No.1689076 >55 > supreme court judge >Won't post pic now that i told you my occupation

Anonymous Wed Mar 26 12:34:43 2014 No.1689090
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>21
>Two part-time jobs, not in education

Took a gap year to save money and now I barely draw anymore aside from pen gestures, it's not good. In the last art classes I was in I had gotten really depressed all of a sudden and just gave up, apologized to my professors and withdrew from school. I feel too ashamed to go back.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 26 13:08:42 2014 No.1689099 >>1689076 I... You... If this is true, the supreme court just got a little better.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 26 13:40:42 2014 No.1689112 File: 392 KB, 2219x1110, fsdhsfdhfghsdfhgsj.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >19 >being a loser I wouldn't call this art but it is the last thing i drew

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 26 14:57:37 2014 No.1689159 >>1689076 >Won't post pic now that i told you my occupation What does your occupation has to do with your art?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 26 15:52:43 2014 No.1689194 >>1689090 i'm in an art school that is reputed for producing good illustrators, and i can tell your art is pretty decent for a 21 yo

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 26 16:10:21 2014 No.1689206 >>1688951 How does one get into doing illustrations for clothing design?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 26 19:13:21 2014 No.1689305 File: 48 KB, 960x658, watercolor.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >22 >just graduated with BA >currently neet here's a watercolor I also do intaglio printmaking

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 26 19:14:21 2014 No.1689307 File: 82 KB, 960x757, caterpillarprint.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1689305 here's a print

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 27 03:08:05 2014 No.1689635 >>1688070 For what purpose is that piece?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 27 03:10:05 2014 No.1689640 >>1688098 You won't live paycheck to paycheck

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 27 03:16:52 2014 No.1689643 >>1689305 A Bachelors in what?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 27 05:35:57 2014 No.1689741 Did you gather a bunch of excuses spouted from other members here?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 27 06:45:00 2014 No.1689762 >>1689206 I personally just contacted an indie clothes designer and asked if they'd be interested in using my designs.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 27 11:04:50 2014 No.1689920 >>1689643 art? ba = bachelor of art

Anonymous Thu Mar 27 11:56:58 2014 No.1689942
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Fark.
>22
>film student in australia
Wanted to draw forever, only nutted up in the last 6 months though... Currently falling into a decline where I'm not sure what to learn next...

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 27 12:10:49 2014 No.1689966 File: 1.93 MB, 2528x3508, fgsafgasg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >20 >first year in high school atm.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 27 20:36:12 2014 No.1690290 >>1689920 No, BA = Bachelor's Also, NEET = No Education, Employment, or Training. So you're not a NEET, and you don't know what BA means.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 28 00:15:47 2014 No.1690377 >>1687299 summer adjunct but yeah its a side thing, im a concept artist 9-5

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 12:00:22 2014 No.1691897 bump

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 13:10:21 2014 No.1691931 >18 >student, soon a web developer/programmer >i don't really draw that often, i just kinda rediscovered it (used to draw when in elementary school because art oriented class) and just like to lurk /ic/ once in a while

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