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Anyone have some in depth tutorials for more "adult" art?

>> No.1673959

>>1673954
I wish vilppu video anatomy would be more focused on porn

>guys jerking off
>anatomy of skull while doing bj
>in depth lesson about vagina
>life models sexing

just imagine.

>> No.1673963

>>1673959
Sadly there's close to no in depth shit on this. I believe /ic/ made some in depth tutorials on dicks and vaginas a while back, but they were fairly mediocre. Personally I'd like my shit to reflect Nezumi's. I've got no trouble up to the detail work on the vaginas and anus.

>> No.1673965

>>1673963
>Nezumi
Her quality has been dropping a bit lately.

>> No.1673966

>>1673963
just study porn. I sometimes do a gesture drawing straight from porn flicks.

>> No.1673967
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1673967

This is all I have.

>> No.1673968

>>1673954
we all know where that snakes going..

>> No.1673972
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>>1673968

>> No.1673974

>>1673972
Miles has really upped his game lately

>> No.1674002

>>1673959
>>1673963
>>1673966
>not checking up on Incase blogspot
Dude has it all
>chicks
>dicks
>BJ
>on n on

>> No.1674003

>>1673967
Doxy/Onta draws good dicks though

>> No.1674012

>>1673972
Wow, that is insanely talented yet by far the most disgusting thing i have seen in a long time. Jesus not even gore makes me feel like this

>> No.1674022
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>>1673954
Not hard to find. Are you even looking?

>> No.1674026
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>> No.1674027

>>1674012
I dont like too. I mean I could fap to it but not my fetish. Also chick made this.

>> No.1674031

>>1673954
Anyone have some detailed tits tutorials

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1674034

>>1674031
here

>> No.1674037

>>1674026
>>1674034
Time to step my pussy game up.
Godspeed anon(s)

>> No.1674038

>>1674034
So why was this deleted mods?

>> No.1674041

>>1674038
What was it, and why are mods deleting shit related to adult art?

>> No.1674050
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>>1674041
Janitor or whomever, just listen.
I know the rules around /ic/ and such.
This is a red board, meaning it is NSFW.
Now nipples and vaginas are art as well, don't get your feathers all bunched up cause you saw a nipple.
Now I'm going to post the same image.
If you delete it, at least tell me why, or show up.
Don't be like Batman and take me from behind and snap my arm like a celery.

I want to know why Janitor/mod
Why

>> No.1674051

>>1674050
Im guessing it's because of the blatant marketing on top of it delte it now or i will summon the ban gods

>> No.1674053

>>1674027
It´s a collab with algen

>> No.1674057

>>1674051
Welp.
Can't delete shit on my phone.
Call in for a post deletion

>> No.1674058

>>1674050
The problem I have with many breast tutorials is that, while yes, there is a slight inward curve(middle picture) that not all breasts look alike and there are occasionally breasts that stick out some towards the sides. The kind of breast he's describing is most often seen on skinnier girls, and the breasts rightmost in the middle picture aren't exactly uncommon. The "circle-y" breasts you see in the top picture are more rare than most other shapes, but not totally uncommon when a too-small bra is used (if you're adding clothing here), a pushup bra is used, in certain types of corsets, or if there's implants involved.

Thanks to the internet and human sexuality, there's tons of different resources to look at boobs. Not all tits look alike. Melons change due to weight, age, shape, and sagginess. Common sense is a friend. The bigger your breasts, the older you are, and the more weighted downward they are, you'll experience more sagging. As you get older, your flippity floppities look less "full" and tend to look more flat.

If this tutorial is 100% relevant to you, then you need to think about drawing more diverse females. Drawing the same thing over and over is good for reinforcement. Bad for learning.

>> No.1674068

>>1674050
We did just get new mods. Hell, I had a thread on /v/ asking what the best baseball games were and the mod banned me and took down all my shit because I posted the mascot of the buffalos and the mod decided that wasn't vidya related.

They really need to get their shit together.

>> No.1674077

>>1674058
Well he did say to look at images.
He only gave a formula, not the answer.

>> No.1674249

>>1674058
The problem comes from understanding the logic behind breasts. Just looking at a few online photos really doesn't help. You have to take them, break them down, learn them, then put them back together. I always find this difficult and there's very little relevant art info on it, especially if you decide to exaggerate them. Even anatomy classes don't do much good on the subject. Normal size breasts have never been a problem for me, probably due to me seeing do many reference photos and just learning how they should look in accordance to what the body is doing, but whenever I decide to exaggerate them I always find myself having to look at various doujins, study how they draw it, but never completely understand the logic behind it.

>> No.1674257

>>1674249
they're lumps of fat that hang off women's chest, not Swiss wristwatches.

>> No.1674260
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1674260

>>1673963
>Nezumi
muhnigga.jpg
>>1673965
>her
>>1673974
who?

I have a few references not for the faint of heart view at your own risk this could turn you off of the damn things as they don't always look prim and proper like you american adult videos

>> No.1674275

>>1674260
Nice vag chart.

and yeah, Nezumi is a chick. Caught me off guard the first time I found it out as well. It was one one of her older blogs, wish I still had the link. Still no pictures of her though, but drawing shit like she does, that's to be expected.

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>>1674068
>Belle-chan
furry you deserved it
j/k but the mod probably saw it that way not to mention posting her usually leads to 64 of her being posted so the mod probably just cut out the problem before it happened

the only defense against bad modding is clear screencaps of you not breaking any rules and sending it to m00t but he probably wouldn't bother doing anything about so just take your 3 days or revolt and proxy up

this one isn't as good but it at least explains the functions and why certain part look like they do

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>>1674278
I was pretty butthurt at the time seeing as I don't see how this pic looks furry. I mean, she looks like a cute baseball mascot... which is what she is. She's popular and well liked so it was sure to draw some attention to the thread. If people want to dump some baseball related pictures in a baseball vidya thread then whatever. Still wouldn't be the stupidest thing I got banned for(posted Midna hentai in a rule 34 thread and got permabanned for pedophillia).

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>>1674275
Yeah there are a few female doujin artist out there it's pretty weird I think rumor mill said Xration was female too but I guess his/her stuff is more tame than Nezumi's so it could be true

I wish 2chan's and Pixiv's 0033 would reference genitals and breast the rest of his stuff is really good reference material

if you can translate this i'm sure this will help too if not just use it as reference

>> No.1674324

>>1674310
That's a nice one. It would be cool if Yokkora did some stuff like this.

>> No.1674362

different "gaps" from the front

>> No.1674363
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1674363

>>1674362
forgot my picture

>> No.1674404

>>1674068
Have you seen the /banned page? They're going fucking BANNANAS on every board. They're even banning people on /a/ for creating a thread about waifus, saying it's a "bad quality post" or "garbage outside of /b/", it's crazy.

>> No.1674478

>>1674404
i recently got banned for insulting someone on /ic/(who made 2 threads about his art instead of posting it into the draw thread).
has this mod ever been to /ic/? that's part of the boards culture to keep all the bad people from posting.
heck, the first time i came to /ic/ and posted some of my shit i didn't get a serious critique. all people did was insult me and my work. did anyone get banned for that? no. such is the way of /ic/.
i'd welcome it much more if the mods/jans would delete and ban the people who dont read the rules. we get request threads and tattoo threads and troll threads on a regular basis that stay up for ages while users who insulted someone get instantly banned as if the other person couldnt deal with it in real life.

>> No.1674562

>>1674363
This is a really good one. Any more like this exist for other feminine parts?

>> No.1674577

I doubt a tutorial exists for this, but would anyone have some tips for making plump looking anuses and vaginas.

>> No.1674870
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1674870

what else could you possibly want? breast? those tutorials are a dime-a-dozen easy to find i'll just keep posting as many vag tutorials/references as I have to fill up this thread

as for anuses I don't know >>>/s/ would probably be a source for reference material and I guess nezumi, most people don't even bother drawing them or make a simple "X" for them

>> No.1675071

>>1674870
That's a damn good reference picture. Please continue, and yeah, it always bothers me when artists take the easy way out with that shit. They either white it out, "censor" it, or just simplify it. I always appreciate artists like Nezumi who really take the time to detail their work... even if some of it crosses the why boner line to a little less than attractive(imo).

>> No.1675178

>>1673972
>Weirdest boner

>> No.1675179

>>1673974
Miles?

>> No.1675184

>>1674478
muh board culture is not board rules
posting threads for your art is fine if you want detailed criticism, especially since every picture but 3-5 gets ignored in draw threads

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1675260

>>1673974
That's not even Miles.

Anyway, >>1673954 those breasts bother me so much. They could have been so much better given the surrounding parts. I was really expecting better.

Have some reference

>> No.1675267
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1675267

>>1675260
Anything by Bougereau is good breasts reference

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1675268

>>1675267
Nice lighting going on here by Pierre-Narcisse Guérin

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1675269

>>1675268
Nicolas Poussin has done some good breasts as well.

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>>1675269
as has Antonio Allegri da Correggio

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1675272

>>1675270
Gilles Demarteau makes this erotic with the lighting on the belly

>> No.1675273
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1675273

Slightly off topic, what's the deal with Michelangelo? It looks like he just took men and slapped some cut spheres on them and called it a day. He's considered a master, how'd he not do a better job here?

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1675274

>>1675272
Guillame Seignac has a nice collection of breasts as well

>> No.1675284
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1675284

>>1675274
I'd been looking for this one for almost an hour now thinking I first saw it on the internet while looking for the other ones when I'd actually first seen it in my local bookstore in this huge collection called Rembrandt by Horst Gerson, which wikipedia says is a catalogue raisonné, collecting all the works by Rembrandt.

The one here is no match to the one in the book. The plate version is much sexier and more accurate.

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1675285

>>1675284
John William Waterhouse makes sexy nude paintings too. With breasts.

>> No.1675286 [DELETED] 

>>1675285
Saw this book in the bookstore also and had to take note of who painted it.Henri Gervex Rolla was on the back cover.

It looks much better in real life.

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>>1675285
Saw this book in the bookstore also and had to take note of who painted it. Henri Gervex Rolla was on the back cover. Henri Gervex liked using mythological subjects as an excuse to paint naked women, according to wikipedia.

It looks much better in real life.

>> No.1675289

>>1675273
He used men as models and had a relatively poor understanding of feminine figures.

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1675290

>>1675288
Gervex also did studies before painting the whole thing. This is one of them. The other one is of the guy.

Also it's hard to find a version of the finished painting that's as appealing as the one I saw on the book cover today so I just used a pic of the book.

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1675291

>>1675290
After all these paintings I still gotta go with Bouguereau for best breasts out of all the classicists though.

Anyone seen better painted breasts in their life?

>> No.1675295

>>1675291
>>1673954
And I gotta repeat, everything looks good but the breasts. Just fix the breasts and I (and millions of others) can fap to this pic for all time.

>> No.1675296

>>1675295
>>1673954
Oh, never mind you're not the artist. The comment about the breasts doesn't change though.

>> No.1675376

>>1675268
This one the one on the rights breats are way to perky. The nipples shouldnt be located so far up, especially because her arms aren't directly overhead.

>>1675269
This one is also pretty bad. They are too ball shaped as well as when a woman lays down her breasts flattened out because you know, gravity and stuff.

>> No.1675384

>>1675274
I love the expression here. Hehe.

>> No.1675385

>>1675376

Generaly when you lie down they dont go completely flat. Entirely dependant on the breasts. Which is why so many of these threads criticising can be silly. There are obvious fuck ups like >>1675273 but otherwise most differences can be accounted for through different breast types and the reference/model used. Hell even if you google 'breasts lying down' it shows the majority are still pretty perky, if they aren't massive, they wont fall to the side so much.

>> No.1675393

>>1675385

I understand they dont go flat and there are many breast types, but they shouldnt be so ball shaped in the picture. If they were so large the could go to the sides or they could go more inwards with the nipple and the fat surrounding being perky. But not like a damn baseball. Only fake boobs do that shit man

>> No.1675394

>>1675393
Stop, man. Just stop. You obviously haven't seen enough breasts to know what you're talking about.

>> No.1675401

>>1675393

Sure. I sort of own a pair so obviously I don't know how they work.

Maybe I'm really not wording it that well, but point being the picture has tiny beachballs for boobs of a woman lying on her back. It really doesn't make sense and thats what I'm saying.

>> No.1675404

>>1675401
You're right though, and apparently being trolled. It's well known that michelangelo had very masculine girls in all his works. He had a really bizarre idea of tits, for whatever reason.

>> No.1675407

>>1674260
disgusting

>> No.1675410

>looking up Nezumi, as she's ocasisonaly mentioned here

well holly fuck, this is some well made horse prolape porn if i ever saw some

does she do it as a living?

>> No.1675413

>>1675410
Yup, numerous doujins and commissions. She's pretty goddamn successful and highly requested over there.

>> No.1675416

>>1675413
Oh, living the dream.
Not my kind of stuff (pretty niche i guess), but I absolutely admire the skill.

>> No.1675419

>>1675393
I've drawn enough women in life drawing classes to know that in fact some breasts really do retain their shape better than others whilst lying flat. And not because they're augmented, you just need more life drawing experience I guess.

>> No.1675422

Notice that in cold, breasts feel harder and retain shape more.
Warm, more soft and gets flatter.

>> No.1675452

>>1675416
Yeah, I feel the same about Medaka Kenichi. The dude mostly does toddlercon(not trying to start anything, just not my cup of tea) but goddamn he has this godlike understanding of simple shading, making the bodies soft and soft forms in general, and using two or three colors to give his drawings a ton of life. His lines are always clean and the detail work is always beautiful. God all his works saved in my reference folder. God help me if one of my friends ever found it.

>> No.1675461

>>1675273

At that time it was prohibited to use female models. I don't remember if naked female models or just females in general. However that is why in many paintings and sculptures you see men with fake boobs.

>> No.1675466

>>1674870
Anyone have something similar to this but anuses?

>> No.1675535

>>1675267

I can't even believe someone can get that fucking good.

This is completely irrelevant to the topic, but damn. That is insane.

>> No.1675539

>>1675535
Work from life

>> No.1675562

>>1675535
Ye olde masters had nothing better to do than draw, so they drew and drew, then drew s'more.

Wake up in the morrow' and thou art feeling adventurous, so you crack some crusty bread with delicious moldy toppings and make leek soup, delicious.

No distractions, No technology, nothing... just you and your canvas... maybe hum mozart and tap your feet vigorously when your favourite part of the symphony comes up, but otherwise, keep at it.

>> No.1675654

>>1675422
>feeling breasts
I envy you

>> No.1675657

>>1675654
Every artist should have a 3d muse to feel around and paint from life from

>> No.1675678

>>1675562
Bouguereau isn't an old master, and even ancient societies had plenty of social and leisure activities.

>> No.1675699

>>1675657
Funny you should mention that, one of my friends has a horrifyingly ugly gf (not that we'd say that in front of him/her) and bases all his facial/anatomy on her... he's actually pretty good but doesn't use reference, he just uses her horrible face. He's dumbstruck, shits fucked.

>> No.1676028

>>1674363
There's a lot more types than just innies, yo.

>> No.1676096

>>1676028
Not when you want to draw a vagina that isn't disgusting.

>> No.1676139

>>1676096
Everyone has different fetishes anon. Some times the only way to stand out is by drawing something disgusting.

>> No.1676261

>>1675284
I like the way her left breast squishes with her hand.

>> No.1676279

>>1676096
Outties can be kawaii as fuck. What are you, gay?

>> No.1676289
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1676289

>>1676028
This. I want to learn all tipes of folding, wrinkling lips, since there seems to be a lack of these kinds of erotic drawings.

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>>1676289
There's more to it than just folding, wrinkling lips, usually it's more the placement of the clitoral hood and the size of the two sets of labia. There seems to be this notion that unless a pussy is a perfect clean little slit, it's disgusting, when there all sorts of really pretty outties out there.

Download one of the various 3D.SK packs out there I guess. Or just look at porn. Hell most sites categorize girls by pussy type nowadays.

>> No.1676395

>>1673954
Bump for more tit related tutorials please

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>>1676395

>> No.1676742
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>>1676395
>>1676740

>> No.1676746
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>>1676740
Here you go~

>> No.1676918

>>1676742
Shiet, been looking for this for a while now. Thank you anon.

>> No.1676928

>>1673954
1) You have a very immature understanding of figure drawing and sound like a teenage kid from DeviantART
2) The best "tutorial" for any body part is drawing from life. It is not "naughty" or sexual, nearly every artist does it and the serious ones do it regularly. This stuff isn't rocket science, if you want to learn how to draw people, then guess what, draw people.

>> No.1676930

>>1676928
not meant to be* "naughty" or sexual

>> No.1676934

>>1676930
>>1676928
You need to chill man. Asking for in depth help on certain parts of the body is not nearly as horrible as you're making it out to be. You're getting all huffy over nothing.

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>>1676928
I can't talk about him but when i say in depth i certainly don't mean plain figure drawing, for example you need to know
a couple of things about how those organs work and react to different situations to draw something like this.

>> No.1676954

>>1676951
Like I said. Immature.

>> No.1676956

>>1676930
And what if someone means it to be sexual you dense motherfucker?

I guess I just whip out my horsecock collection, showe them in someone's cunt and get to drawing from LIFE

>> No.1676963

>>1676954
Man, if you can't deal with the topic then leave. Some of is want to improve our art, some shit is hard to understand and hard to find references for. If you aren't going to contribute anything fuck off.

>> No.1676965

>>1676963
You can find references for the body literally anywhere. Did you even read the sticky?

>> No.1676967

>>1676951
God, that's disgusting and impressive all at the same time.

>> No.1676968

>>1676965
Yeah, you can find thousands of flat photos. of forced poses.

>> No.1676971

>>1676963
>Some of is want to improve our art
Which is why you're arguing with people on the internet instead, right? :^)

>> No.1676974

>>1676965
Yeah, and they don't have what I'm looking for. I'm trying to make more attractive anuses, similar to Yokkora's without just becoming a knock off of him. There isn't anything in the sticky for that.

>> No.1676976

>>1676971
Taking a few seconds to try and keep a thread on topic isn't really stopping me to much.

>> No.1676977

>>1676974
>attractive anuses
>attractive
>anuses
I've got bad news, anon

>> No.1676981

>>1676974
How is that in any way useful in the first place

Most times it's barely even visible

>> No.1676986

>>1676981
Pure cancer.
>why learn to draw something better of you don't see it often!?
Also, in terms of drawn porn, that's what people tend to focus on, the parts that are usually covered.
>the tits
>the ass
>the vag
>the dick
>the anus
>the over all attractiveness of the character or person portray

>> No.1676987

>>1676986
But porn is immature! Everyone should be a stuck-up fine artist in an art school like me!

>> No.1676988

>>1676981
Or depending on the subject, it's the pictures focal point.
There is no way people in here are going to make a constructive conversation right?
So far it's
>hey how can i draw that?
>I don't like what you are trying to draw.

>> No.1676992

>>1676986
>gais it's SO IMPORTANT to draw dicks and vagoos!
>guyz seriously!
>you need to know how to draw ALL KINDS of tits!

why are pornfags always so damn obnoxious?

>> No.1676993

>>1676987
Clearly.
I knew /ic/ has been getting worse for the last couple of years, but jesus, these people man.

>> No.1676996

>>1676992
My little shitposter can't possibly be this cute!

>> No.1676997

>>1676992
Well yeah, when drawing porn all that stuff is kind of important.

>> No.1677000

>>1676988
When you are drawing a full figure, something as minute as an anus is not a "focal point"

>> No.1677002

>>1676988
>guys how do I draw a nostril, THIS IS IMPORTANT

>> No.1677004

>>1677002
If you are a portrait artist it is pretty important to know the anatomy of a nose, yes.

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1677009

>>1677002
>implying it isn't

>> No.1677012

>>1676997
>>1676996
tits aren't that much more complicated than the rest of the body.
people who are more wholesome in their studies understand that.

but pornfags always have to obsess about tits and dicks. you always have to steer the discussion towards porn specifically.
you can always tell who's a pornfag by the way they treat dicks and tits as something special when they talk about something.
how come you people can never keep it technical and art related? it kind of makes me wonder what your priorities are.

also the majority of the infographics posted ITT are terrible.

>> No.1677019

>>1677012
I like how people in here will fill entire threads debating for a single anatomical part as for example the scapula, but when it comes to
genitalia, we are not allowed to talk about them and share knowledge. Yes, when your goal is to draw porn, you would think knowing in depth
about genitalia is very important, but who am i? i guess drawing mushrooms for dicks and dots for anuses is all there is to it.

>> No.1677029

How about the people who can get laid within the week just leave and stop shitposting.
And the rest of us figure this crap out okay?

>> No.1677031

>>1677009
why are black bars always placed over the genitals of anime characters?

>> No.1677035

>>1677031
Japanese censorship laws.

>> No.1677038

>>1677035
Oh yeah, they can't actually depict penetration without the pixel shit or bars, huh?
Seems like an odd place to draw the line.

>> No.1677039

>>1677038
They can't show any genitalia at all.
A lot of the time you'll see pointless censorship that covers up hardly anything as a work around.
Shit's pretty dumb all around.

>> No.1677040

>>1677031
Because showing genitals in any media in japan goes against their obscenity laws, and their laws are so generic that
usualy a black little bar on the clitories can be ok, but bigger magazines will usually censor the whole thing so they don't risk anything.
So pictures on the internet on pixiv for example are either uncensored or with almost no censorship, and on things like comiket you will
find a lot less censorship, buy monthly magazines and animated movies usually sencor the whole thing to be safe.

>> No.1677042

>>1677039
I guess it's the comprise for being able to commercially draw incest, gore, and lolis (regular and ten-thousand-year-old varieties).

>> No.1677043

>>1677012
So you are here just to bitch that people are sharing resources and tips to help them draw better... because I guess you don't think it's important. Christ man, go draw or something.

>> No.1677046

>>1677042
It's pretty depressing how people realise that it's so stupid and over the last years we started seeing less and less censorship
until last summer when they raided a magazine office and we are back to huge black bars and saber dicks again, I almost
cried when i show the horrible censorship on niku ringo's new work, and with the upcoming olympics i don't expect it to go away anytime soon.

>> No.1677121

>>1677043

Anon has a point. Pornfags are pretty fucking obnoxious when it comes to art discussions because most never have any legit technical advise for the overall human body. Discussions are only ever about the tits, ass, or dicks. Which is why there is so much terrible overall anatomy in the art of pornfags. Just look over at tumblr. Only a handful of those faggots know how to anatomy worth a damn.

>> No.1677128

>>1677046
Yeah, it's a bummer, but a lotta folk just need the pretense. You're right, though: if they were a little better about the censorship it wouldn't be half as bad.

>> No.1677140

>>1677121
Stop samefagging... this shit isn't covered in any books, well, none that I've read. You can read all of vilppu's books, all of looms's, dynamic gesture work, everything. Nothing goes in depth on these parts of the body. Sure anatomical correctness is important, nobody is saying otherwise, I'd say it always is, but this stuff is important to. There's no in depth info on it, and it's hard to find reference material for certain parts. There really shouldn't even be discussion on this, it's just a thread to share resources and tips on certain parts of the body. Stop with this "pornfags" bullshit, it's art discussion, it's /ic/ related, and you are just shitting up the thread.

>> No.1677144

>>1677121
>Discussions are only ever about the tits, ass, or dicks.
You mean like what this thread was made for? If you want technical advice on the whole human body there's a gesture thread up at the moment, you could also just make a new thread.

>> No.1677173

>>1677140

And when there are no books you study from life, be it from your own sexual experiences (if you've had any) or from the plethora of porn on xvideos or cliphunter. Breasts, ass, dicks, and vaginas are NOT rocket science and are far from the most complicated element of the human body. Hence why you have a lot of drawn porn where the tits and ass might look hawt but everything else is pretty much shit.

>> No.1677199

>>1677121
How about you hide the fucking thread and stop shitposting

>> No.1677214

>>1677173
Pretty sure nobody is against using references either, doesn't mean there still aren't tips and pictures that can help when it comes to drawing this stuff.

>> No.1677493

Bump for Naughty Dog

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>>1677214

The idea is that if you can draw the human body, you can draw a dick or a vag, because the elements of constructing from simple shapes still applies. Tutorials SPECIFICALLY for vaginas and penises should NOT be needed, at all. At that point, all you need is reference, IF you are in anyway actually competent, because they aren't complicated.

>> No.1677729

>>1677652
You seem to be the expert on this. Please, do post some art and show some examples of your masterful vaginas and dicks.
>they aren't complicated
For some, everyone has trouble with different shit.

>> No.1677734

>>1677652
Eh they are. A vagina goes inside the body. So does a rectum. They have their fixed places. Penises have hidden parts.

In a thread dedicated to the topic its fine discussing. Vilppu discusses muscles of the scapula, seratus wrapping around, and how pectorals work. We discuss genitals.

>> No.1677741

>>1677652
www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0TEvK-mjlg

>> No.1677878

>>1677652
Most people on 4chan haven't seen a pussy IRL man.
Comon

>> No.1678454

>>1673954
Does anyone know a website to find references, or perhaps the fetish name for up close views of private parts?

I can't find jack shit using google, mostly just infected pictures of those parts.

>> No.1678506

>>1678454
describe the part. Beautiful, great, ect
/s/ has perfect pussy threads, though I never got the appeal of JUST looking at a vagina and then jacking off to it

>> No.1678508

>>1677878
>implying you have to draw from life

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1678714

In general, do people like saggy but well kept breasts or perfect breasts?
I wanna know because I get a lot of likes from both sides of the field.

>> No.1678724

>>1678714
Personally. I tend to like well kept saggy. Means mature and usually bigger breasts. Perfect high breasts kinda weird me out and make me think they're unnatural.

>> No.1678726

>>1678714
Depends on what you mean by "perfect" breasts.
If they're fake or cartoonishly round they look off-putting. Like an uncanny valley of boobs.

>> No.1678732

>>1678454
3D.SK has some pussy close ups, not every model does it though.

Otherwise, just go to like, imagefap or something, and search "pussy close up" or something.

>> No.1678733

>>1678714
Big breasts sag a bit, just part of life. Doesn't really bother me and I think most guys are the same way.

It's kind of weird and unattractive when tits don't follow the natural arc of the chest and kind of flop out though.

>> No.1678780

>>1678714
Porn star tits look silly in paintings

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>>1678724
>>1678726
>>1678733
>>1678780
Thanks for the feedback.
So tits like this eh?

Sorry for the hentai

>> No.1678974

>>1678792
>saying sorry for posting something by one of the most technically gifted hentai artists

embrace turtle.fish.paint

>> No.1678993

>>1678714

>>>/soc/

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1678997

>>1678792
The dialogue. Always the damn dialogue.

>Feel really good with my pussy

Jesus Christ. Someone can be great at drawing but please find a decent writer.

>> No.1678999

>>1678997
Japanese speak different than how english do.
I don't think english usually say things like: what a good view, such a good voice, such good face, etc.

>> No.1679013

>>1678993
You idiot.
That's not even me in the image.
I was using it to get a decent analysis from people.

>> No.1679016

>>1678974
You know the artist?

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minor dump to help hopefully
most done by some chick i saw on a porn site, of course

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>>1679046

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>>1679048

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>>1679051

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>>1679052

>> No.1679343

>>1678506
Yup, /s/ had what I was looking for, thanks...

goddamn are vaginas disgusting... I feel like a gay for saying it, but they just don't look attractive at all up close.

>> No.1679349

>>1679343
if you associate orgasmic pleasure with said orifice you*re opinion would change

DaVinci wrote some notes on how unappealing human genitalia are visually

>> No.1679354

>>1679343
Some vaginas are pretty looking. Personally it's the ones that look like they have bits of roast beef for curtains that just seem gross.

>> No.1679372

>>1679343
my waifus pussy is pretty. 3d pussies are gross.

>> No.1679401

>>1679343
Bro I'm pretty sure u gay.

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1679420

>>1678714
I don't care about sagging, but when they flop out like this is, it's really unattractive. I'm mainly referring to how they don't really follow a teardrop shape and awkwardly hang of the chest without following its curve. I'm usually really open minded about body parts and types, and I know it's pretty shallow of me, but that's just not pretty.

It doesn't really even seem to correlate to the size of the breast or weight/age of the girl. My ex had tits like these, wasn't overweight, wasn't old, and had a b-cup.

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1679443

any tips on sexualizing other body parts, like butts and mouths?

>> No.1679462

>>1679443
Look up Ahegaokin

>> No.1680065

>>1679401
>Actually liking 3d
Turrible.

>> No.1680196

>>1677031
>>1677035
>>1677038
>>1677039
America put those Laws, the Japanese just never removed them and no politician wants to be that guy that uncensored porn.

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>> No.1681273

booump

>> No.1682274

>>1679349
>DaVinci wrote some notes on how unappealing human genitalia are visually

source?

why was he so based?

>> No.1684824

>>1673972
It's like an alien world where weird bug things live in a mutual relationship with woman. The women get sexual pleasure 24/7 and the bugs get to get laid. THIS HAS INSPIRED ME TO WRITE!

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1684844

>>1674026
That fucking faggot Markydaysaid draws his pussies like that and it annoys the ever living fuck out of me.

>> No.1684847

>>1680457
jailbait website/10

>> No.1684865

>>1684844
I-i-is.. his dick on his stomach?

>> No.1684919

>>1684865
no it's on his upper thigh look at the picture above it

>> No.1685039

>>1684844
that is a complete disaster. I am an absolute (complete) beginner and that is a total trainwreck.

>> No.1685715

>>1673967
technically uncut is the classic version. not trying to start a troll war of cut vs uncut but... biology.

>> No.1685719

>>1685715
And history, as the Classical era was dominated by anteater-dicks.

>> No.1688933

>>1673972
>>1674027
I like it, even if it was made to be fetishistic, the inclusion of such polarizing elements is an embedded artistic expression. If if can force you to feel something then I think it's worth its weight.

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>> No.1688989

>>1688943
lol at those 'censorship' bars

>> No.1688992

>>1675562
Another important thing you forgot and many seems to glance over is that these paintings took a huge amount of time to complete and was not done in one sitting. They had time to reflect and most important, sleep on hard decisions. These guys literary put a part of their soul into creating these paintings.