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[Anonymous No.1658649]

>>1658640

[Anonymous No.1658663]

quick life study

[Anonymous No.1658664]

[Anonymous No.1658670]

[Anonymous No.1658671]

So, I tried out Loomis.

I don't really know if I'm doing this shit right, but I feel like I kind of understand 3d shapes a bit better.

Here are a few examples, am I doing it right? Am I doing something wrong?

[Anonymous No.1658685]

>>1658670
I'm digging the colors but the ribcage seems too long

[Anonymous No.1658688]

>>1658671
You are doing it wrong. I would suggest reading it through it again. Your noses look flat and the eyes don't look like they are sitting on a sphere, but rather a flat plane.

[Anonymous No.1658699]

>>1658688
blame this dumb cunt
>>1657888

[Anonymous No.1658700]

>>1658688
Alright, will do.

[Anonymous No.1658741]

>>1658664
Is that the protag from Aquaria?

[Anonymous No.1658742]

I just wanted to draw the hair. Any detail on the face was an afterthought.

[Anonymous No.1658753]

[Conmana No.1658754]

quick sketcherino
I think I burnt myself out drawing 25/7
gonna slow down keep things simple

[Anonymous No.1658757]

>>1658742
hair is good and those eyes are some topkek

[Anonymous No.1658758]

>>1658757

Thanks. She does look a bit potatoey.

[Anonymous No.1658763]

>>1658642

[Anonymous No.1658770]

I didnt find faq thread, will ask here. I have an issue with painter (just decide to try out, whynot) when hotkeys don't work until you click on another layer and then click back. wtf is that?

[Anonymous No.1658781]

>>1658742
i tried to mate.

Trying to get used to a brush pen i just got so far proving to be a lot harder than i thought. still feels a lot more natural than trying to sketch on a tablet pc though.

[Anonymous No.1658789]

>>1658781
You're drawing symbols of facial features, not actual eyes, noses, mouths, etc. Watch some videos and read some books, learn how the things look and work. And secondly, you're drawing the facial features and face on a flat plane, rather than following the curve of the head. This is the only time I would suggest loomis, but loomis. Just don't feel that you have to emulate his style. Use it to learn more about 3D space. Your other drawings look pretty good I gotta say, keep working at it comrade!

[Anonymous No.1658791]

>>1658789
yeah i know all that and can do it fine if im constructing the head. however using a pen presents a problem to do that would make it look like shit.. either way i should be thinking better about those things.

[Anonymous No.1658796]

[Anonymous No.1658797]

>>1658796
:O u cant do that on /ic/!

[Anonymous No.1658800]

>>1658797

:O y not?

[Anonymous No.1658801]

>>1658791
also forgot pic /example of some more constructed stuff. thanks for the feed back something i still need to work on.

[Anonymous No.1658847]

[Anonymous No.1658851]

Its a rabbit?

[Anonymous No.1658862]

/ic/, how do i into eyes and eye sockets? also my stuff gets pretty muddy as time goes on, how do i get around that?

[Anonymous No.1658866]

>>1658862
If your stuff gets messy tr using less colors and blending minimally

[Anonymous No.1658869]

>>1658862
Your head construction is not good, but you're improving blending wise. You need some more lighter values though.

[Anonymous No.1658871]

>>1658866

well, shit. i paint just by scratching around until it starts to take form. that may be a problem

[Anonymous No.1658872]

>>1658869

you're right, i get carried away with the features and then slap in the rest of the head at the end. fuck it, i'll do some life studies

[Anonymous No.1658889]

>>1658871
You can always clean up at the end

[Anonymous No.1658894]

just got my wacom yesterday now i just gotta GIT GUD

[Anonymous No.1658896]

>>1658894
Actually a tablet won't will transform you into an better artist

[Anonymous No.1658899]

>>1658896
my pencil art looks MUCH better i just like the options of using paint and marker ect pic related

[Anonymous No.1658900]

quick character sketch what do you guys think?

[Anonymous No.1658904]

>>1658900

looks great reminds me of a starship troopers commander or a imperial guard comannder

[Anonymous No.1658919]

>>1658900

Stop playing around with brushes and start studying facial anatomy.

No matter how quick a sketch the eyes should always be rendered at a decent level as this is the first thing we look at.

[Anonymous No.1658921]

>>1658919
shut the fuck up you know nothing idiot, if the guy doesn't want to draw the eyes he doesn't have to. not only that, not rendering the eyes makes them unreadable and lends mystery to the picture. put down your copy 'drawing rules for retards to repeat on the internet' and pick up a brush.

[Anonymous No.1658923]

>>1658921

Keep that attitude and you'll never improve.

[Anonymous No.1658925]

>>1658904
>>1658921
>>1658900
an hero samfagola

[Anonymous No.1658929]

First ever lifetime attempt at drawing a portrait of my girlfriend. How did it come out?

[Anonymous No.1658930]

>>1658923
so my attitude should be the same as yours, the 'spout nonsense and potato' technique?

[Anonymous No.1658940]

>>1658929
so you're left handed or is your right hand your wife and your left hand your girlfriend

[Anonymous No.1658945]

>>1658925
i think we should get that same thing on /b/ so turds like you can't go around accusing people of samefagging all day.

people don't agree with me

..they must all be one person!!!

[Anonymous No.1658947]

>>1658940

She's only half of my girlfreind because I use both hands

Would you shake her?

[Anonymous No.1658952]

Current work in progress. Wanted to work with a super skinny canvas. Still mad WIP.

[Anonymous No.1658953]

>>1658952
niiiiiiiiiiiiiice colours love it

[Anonymous No.1658955]

>>1658953
Thank you!

[Anonymous No.1658961]

It's a samurai. Trying to capture some motion

[Anonymous No.1658965]

>>1658642
Op with an original image next time you piece of shit

[Anonymous No.1658969]

started doing this and ground to a stop because i forgot that i completely suck at painting digitally and don't wanna ruin it lmao

[Anonymous No.1658972]

>>1658969
you can't ruin stuff painting digitally that's the beauty of it.

[Anonymous No.1658976]

>>1658961
Fix the legs.

[Anonymous No.1658981]

First time painting on a canvas...

[Anonymous No.1658989]

wip, the last of us fanart of ellie. does anyone know how i can make this face less masculine? sorta new to the whole... painting people thing

[Anonymous No.1658990]

S-should I fork over 47 pounds for Proko senpai for his figure drawing premium videos?

Is it worth it?

[Anonymous No.1658991]

>>1658989
I think its fine by itself, maybe make some parts softer and the chin smaller

[Anonymous No.1658994]

[Anonymous No.1658996]

>>1658991
alright sweet! thanks.

[Anonymous No.1659036]

>>1658649

[Anonymous No.1659043]

>>1658741
yes, thats naija

[Anonymous No.1659044]

[Anonymous No.1659051]

>>1658742
You completely changed the shape of the head, hair, and placement of features. I don't understand how you didn't see that and think "oh shit, I'd better back up and erase that". 10 seconds lightly laying out construction lines would have solved that.

[Anonymous No.1659054]

>>1658900
Looks cartoony and exaggerated. Features too big for head.

[Anonymous No.1659055]

>>1658945
confirmed for samefag

[Anonymous No.1659058]

>>1658851
>dem eyes.
I-i-it all... r-r-returns to n-n-nothing!

[Anonymous No.1659059]

Laying down the base. How is it looking so far?

[Anonymous No.1659063]

>>1658990
>that parrot
I lost it.

[Anonymous No.1659064]

>>1658989
The mouth seems off-centre, and the jaw is kind of big. Also, is the ear placed right, or am I being retarded?

[Anonymous No.1659080]

>>1659059
update

[Anonymous No.1659086]

>>1658929
>>1658947

[Anonymous No.1659142]

still life

[Anonymous No.1659143]

>>1659080
guys?

[Anonymous No.1659147]

>>1659143
looking nice. i like the brushwork!!

[Anonymous No.1659164]

trying those "no pressue sensitivity" color studies and fail miserably. when i try to simplify it doesnt get anywhere near the orginal. when i go in it looks so bad.

what do?

[Anonymous No.1659169]

>>1658961
trying to find decent values. Shit's tough for me

[Anonymous No.1659185]

>>1659143
the thumbnail looks good, keep rendering

[Anonymous No.1659222]

[Anonymous No.1659223]

>>1659164

Try using the lasso tool and think about the largest shapes first.

Should make the process a bit easier

[Anonymous No.1659225]

[Anonymous No.1659226]

>>1659143
I'm kinda stalling. I have no idea what to do to make this look better and everything I try looks messy.

[Anonymous No.1659282]

is this worth pursuing?

talk to me about value massing /ic/

[Anonymous No.1659294]

[Anonymous No.1659300]

>>1659226
This is kind of the direction I would have gone with this

[Anonymous No.1659304]

>>1659223
Where did you learn to use the lasso?
I want to try this technique out but have found zero useful instructions online

[Anonymous No.1659309]

>>1659294
Brozil, I know you love your gradient brush but you're using it as a crutch far too much. All your eyes look the same, just because it looks smooth doesn't mean that its correct. You're losing all the forms.

[Anonymous No.1659316]

>>1659309
Thanks for the crit.

[Anonymous No.1659323]

which works better?
I really like to to frame my shit, feels more comfy i guess, but now i can't decide, the empty space looks kinda cool too.

[Anonymous No.1659327]

>>1659300
Wow that's really good.
Thanks anon -- you've given me something to think about.

[Anonymous No.1659334]

>>1659323
Left one, anon

[Anonymous No.1659340]

>>1659323
the right one imo. it makes it look like it was an open field as oppossed to the left one where it looks like it was some kind of hidden place

[Anonymous No.1659369]

[Anonymous No.1659373]

>>1659323
well it depends.
right one "breathes" more easlily and is easier on the eye and mood.
left one is more heavy.

[Anonymous No.1659375]

>>1659044
learn some anatomy.

[Anonymous No.1659376]

>>1659294
The scratched on the spoon

>came

[Anonymous No.1659382]

Been practicing 3/4th heads from imagination. Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.1659388]

>>1659382
Good so far, just refine it to more finer details, but IMO it looks very graphic, since some lines are too heavy in thickness.

[Anonymous No.1659390]

>>1659382
i don't like your style. it looks so impersonal

[Anonymous No.1659394]

Bit Rusty, but I haven't drawn for months, critique is welcome.

[Anonymous No.1659397]

Guys, can you post a "what to draw" table, please?
It was here somwhere, but I cant find it.

[Anonymous No.1659401]

>>1659394
>png
>2.52mb

there's your first crit

[Anonymous No.1659406]

>>1659397
Don't actually roll, just pick one, this is a drawthread

[Anonymous No.1659407]

>>1659397
That's all I got
I think there was a third blue one somewhere
I didn't save it though

[Anonymous No.1659412]

>>1659407

[Anonymous No.1659415]

>>1659412
thank you have a antifire pot

[Anonymous No.1659418]

>>1659376
I love that one, mang. Made me chuckle on a crappy day.

[Anonymous No.1659419]

>>1659406
>>1659407
>>1659412
Thanks, man.

[Anonymous No.1659426]

If we are requesting shit, how about someone posts that comicbook spread thing with perspective grids in different angles for drawing practice..

[Anonymous No.1659537]

>>1658851
A rabbit? more like a nightmare. it looks sloppy but I like it
1+ anon

[Anonymous No.1659601]

what do you think eyesee

[FiRez !!tndrCZJHE+I No.1659604]

I think I'm pretty much done.

[Anonymous No.1659618]

W.I.P. Charcoal on watercolor paper, detail.

Comments and criticism welcome.

[Anonymous No.1659631]

>>1659601
Looks like that one guy from Dark Souls.
Neat.

[Anonymous No.1659641]

>>1659604
I would strongly recommend that you introduce the process of flipping into your workflow, that is some very awkward facial construction you've got going on there.

[Anonymous No.1659645]

>>1659036

[Anonymous No.1659647]

finished this today, I have progress pics if anyone is interested.

[Conmana No.1659655]

tried sketching from silhouette and doing something different with muh values. Pretty shitty I know I can do better

....once I get this coffee in me the drawing board is going to light on fire

[FiRez !!tndrCZJHE+I No.1659670]

>>1659641
Perhaps it's because I've seen her face for hours but I can't identify something particularly jarring about the flipped image, perhaps her nose should turn a bit more? her left eyebrow should be longer?.

Not trying to excuse myself, sometimes is hard to notice our own mistakes.

Thanks for the feedback.

[Conmana No.1659671]

>>1659670

o·ri·en·ta·tion

Put line for the o·ri·en·ta·tion and you'll see alot of your problems

[Anonymous No.1659675]

>>1659670
Eyes are lopsided compared to the nose and mouth. The head is viewed in a slight 3/4 but the part in the hair is shown by a vertical line instead of a line that wraps around the head in 3D space. Her right cheekbone seems wider than her left, her cranium is too small for her face, and her neck is too thin for her head and doesn't look attached.

[Anonymous No.1659679]

>>1659655

love your sketches, they feel very dynamic and energetic. but your values are really wonky, do you have a blog/da? kinda boring to never see you post finished work

>>1659670

those eyes are gigantic man, even fore cute-girl standards.

>>1659631

lol thank you.

[FiRez !!tndrCZJHE+I No.1659687]

>>1659671
o-k

>>1659675
Thanks. There are some stuff that I can still do something about it. I will try to do something about those faults.

>>1659679
I will consider that. Thanks

[Anonymous No.1659690]

>>1659164
you are trying to paint a scene with really heavy atmosphere, grass everywhere etc etc all of which makes for extremely soft edges, with all hard edges. a huge part of the 'essence' of this scene is softness, watery, heavy, moist air.

use some softer brushes and pay attention to shapes. you've got the colors pretty much down but you arent drawing the shapes the way they are at all and you are just scribbling to try to show detail. PAY ATTENTION to what is there

[Conmana No.1659692]

THe COFDFFEE


>>1659679
I have a da but I rarely upload to it
I get close to finishing things and this is how it goes
-Get close
-Notice problems
-try to fix problem
-fix problem
-see 500 other problems
-Brain explodes /quit

I'm trying to shorten the amount of time it takes me to finish images mainly due in part to boredom. the most I can spend on any image is like 4-6 hours which isnt enough.

I think in a years time I should be able to make a living off art given I improve during that time.

[Anonymous No.1659706]

never posted before
pls be gentle /ic/

[Anonymous No.1659709]

>>1659706

[Anonymous No.1659711]

gonna leave it at that

[Anonymous No.1659713]

[Anonymous No.1659734]

>>1659713
>that left arm
Ouch, that looks like it would hurt.

[Anonymous No.1659750]

>>1659713
not tumblr nose enough

[Anonymous No.1659751]

>>1658990
I did. I think it was worth it.

[Anonymous No.1659756]

I want to focus more on gesture and less on contour, but it seems like I just don't get it.
Any good resources on it? Also, should I focus on learning anatomy now, using gestures as a warm-up, or focus on getting fantastic gestures before I start learning muscles and proportions?

[Anonymous No.1659800]

>>1659618
Update on W.I.P. An improvement, I hope.

[Anonymous No.1659834]

>>1659800
looks a bit like one of the photoshop filters

[Anonymous No.1659835]

>>1659834
if by 'a bit like' you mean exactly like then spot on mate

>inb4 protest.
who gives a fuck how you got there, but your there faggot.

[Anonymous No.1659840]

>>1659800
love the hard lights on the nose and mouth, eyes are perfect. The nostrils on the nose (especially our left) read a little weird.

[Joe Action No.1659850]

Drew this today for /asp/ since they apparently don't have a board-tan.

Didn't really get much response from them or /co/, thoughts? Advice? I'm pretty new to photoshop.

[Anonymous No.1659859]

>>1658989
You've flattened the face. Flip the image horizontally and see where you've fucked up.

[Anonymous No.1659902]

I've discovered the marker tool in Sai and I found it's much more comfortable for art! How does it look?

[Anonymous No.1659906]

>>1659756
Vilppu is the go to guy for gestures.

You gotta feel it, FEEL THE PULL MAN.

I also advice you to do both, do a certain amount of gestures a day, learn constructive anatomy alongside of it.

VILPPU.

[Anonymous No.1659907]

>>1659670
This is like that bazooka girl all over again.
Sometimes you just have to move on.

[Anonymous No.1659909]

Quick doodle, how's it look?

[Anonymous No.1659910]

>>1659909
Really bad, you should read the sticky.

[Anonymous No.1659911]

How awesome is this drawing?

[Anonymous No.1659912]

>>1659910
I read it a few times over a week ago. All art is 'really bad' because all art can be improved with practice. I just need to practice more.

[Anonymous No.1659914]

>>1659912
Have you actually opened up a Loomis/Vilppu/Hampton book?

Judging by the way you ''practice'', I'm gonna have to say no.

[Anonymous No.1659917]

>>1659914
I've read Fun With a Pencil and Loomis' Figure Drawing book.

[Anonymous No.1659918]

>>1659917
I hope you understand reading them is not enough, you need to copy some of Loomis' drawings, and apply the stuff he teaches you to your own drawings.

I'm not getting the impression that you actually understood what Loomis is teaching.
Also go 'acquire' Vilppu's drawing manual. It's a bit more beginner friendly, when it comes to figure drawing.

[Anonymous No.1659923]

>>1659918
this. i don't get people who finish fun with a pencil so fast. i am at page 34 trying to apply the ball shape to his babby faces and use that as a guide to copy them and think about their perspective. it took me like 2 weeks to get to this page(though it could have taken me less time if i had been drawing more).
point being, you just dont réad through loomis. you do the exercises until you understand what he is trying to tell you and then move on when you think you are capable of reproducing this stuff for yourself without references. you are not suppossed to just copy his drawings/style, you are suppossed to take the fundamentals he teaches you and then apply them to your own drawings. do the exercises with your characters, not his. it will take more time but it's also noticably more fun and you will learn more from it.

[Anonymous No.1659925]

>>1659909
looks good. keep it up. but whole figures pls.

[Anonymous No.1659933]

Im plugging away on this puppy

[Anonymous No.1660013]

>>1659923

>mfw i never finished fun with a pencil

am i still allowed to post on /ic/ ? sometimes it feels like i have this terrible secret and i start shaking and sweating when i post "needsmoarloomis" constantly afraid that the /ic/-police will bust through my door and point the fingers at me "YOU FRAAAUD"

[Anonymous No.1660022]

These are from http://www.quickposes.com/

>>1659906
Vilppu, got it. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.1660140]

[Anonymous No.1660167]

self portrait from mirror

[FiRez !!tndrCZJHE+I No.1660185]

>>1659907

I don't think it's really that bad.

Perhaps some details are not accurate but it seems to cause an effective suspension of disbelief.

[Anonymous No.1660186]

Quick painting, didn't really get much past the block in stage, but I like it :D

[Anonymous No.1660191]

>>1660186
looks nice, colours on the figure could use a bit more saturation

[Anonymous No.1660211]

>>1660185
Still polishing this turd? Why

[Anonymous No.1660246]

>>1660167
getting better..

cant decide if i should go with exposed belly or not :/ what you guys thing

[Anonymous No.1660249]

>>1660246
>dat giraffe neck

[Anonymous No.1660253]

>>1660246
see
>>1660249
>seconded

[Anonymous No.1660259]

>>1660249
>>1660253
oh yeah i know about that didnt fix it yet :p but thx for reminding me

[Anonymous No.1660264]

>>1660186
gonna post that on your FB?

[Anonymous No.1660270]

>>1660185
her eyebrows are too short, her eyes too close together and they don't align with the mouth. the perspective is also wrong on the eyes. they're pointing straight forward, but the face is turned more to the left of the image. you could probably fix it by making her right eye smaller and foreshortening it a bit to make it wrap around the face better.

[Anonymous No.1660271]

>>1660264
Why would I do that?

[Anonymous No.1660274]

>>1660246
thanks

[Anonymous No.1660294]

Advice? I'm kind of new to this digital art stuff and I don't draw enough traditionally

[Anonymous No.1660299]

>>1660294
put the tablet away close the browser draw from life the best way to improve.

[Anonymous No.1660306]

>>1659706
>>1659709
Nice block in, now clean up your edges and you'll be set.

[Anonymous No.1660311]

>>1660013
iktf bro. I haven't actually "finished" any of the books, even my favorite, hampton, and i've been drawing for a year now.

[Conmana No.1660335]

>>1660246

Keep it closed, It's hard to take it seriously open.

[Anonymous No.1660386]

>>1660335
thanks. here is an update

[Anonymous No.1660387]

>>1660271
don't you usually post your art on FB?

[Anonymous No.1660388]

Well?

[Anonymous No.1660389]

>>1660386

[Anonymous No.1660392]

Well?

[FiRez !!tndrCZJHE+I No.1660402]

>>1660270
That was extremely helpful, I already fixed the eyes separation a great deal but the mouth-eye alignment still eludes me (I can't really see it)

I think I will just go an look at some references, I will finish it to the extent of my possibilities but I will desist on using my imagination alone, I'm obviously not there yet. Another issue is that at first I didn't want to do a very angled 3/4 view just a slight one but for some reason I kept pushing it to one side.

Anyway. Thanks a lot!

>>1660211
I think I would be in far worse shape if I gave up every time /ic/ shouted: Turd Polisher!

[Anonymous No.1660404]

>>1659647
I would

[Conmana No.1660407]

tried an actual silhouette drawing
I feel this could fix alot of my problems
>>1660389
Try to focus on major errors before going into rendering and or designing, it will save you alot of headaches.

[Anonymous No.1660411]

>>1660407
b-but what are those ?

>>1660392
you are drawing symbols.

the bridge of the nose does not have those strong lines on the side of it.

you also forgot the eyelids.

define light sources

work with ref

[Anonymous No.1660412]

Which one?

[Anonymous No.1660416]

>>1660392
i like it, really super flat. reminds me of matisse

[Conmana No.1660420]

>>1660411

I won't say exacts and I don't want to parrot loomis. Do some muscle studies for the entire 3d space, Try to remember landmarks and apply those to get a better sense of 3d Space. Learn how they connect to each other ect.

Easy example would be the bicep is opposite of your elbow .

[Anonymous No.1660454]

Is...Is that Proko?

[Anonymous No.1660455]

>>1660387
Yeah but fb doesn't like that kind of image, they remove things with nudity or sexual imagery. Besides, I don't want my friends and family seeing that painting for obvious reasons.

[Anonymous No.1660471]

I posted this a few months back, tried to clean up the lines and stuff, but something is weird with the head.....I can't put my finger on it.....

[Anonymous No.1660474]

>>1660471
is she covering one ear because one giant ear is enough to cover her hearing needs?

[Anonymous No.1660477]

>>1660474
Hahahaha, probably. To be honest, the ear was even bigger before cleanup.....

[Anonymous No.1660480]

>>1660477
its not out of the range of normalcy but may be a bit large for idealized beauty

[Anonymous No.1660481]

>>1660420
im guessing you were talking about the arms so i tried fixing those

[Anonymous No.1660496]

>>1660411
>>1660416

That what I'm always told about my drawings. They look flat.

How do I start making them look 3D?

[Anonymous No.1660498]

>>1660496
draw from life

[Anonymous No.1660503]

>>1660496
Study values and forms, how light works on 3D objects. Observe and draw from life. You have a long way to go.

[Anonymous No.1660509]

>>1660407
i realy like this one.

[Anonymous No.1660513]

>>1660509
stop liking what i don't like.

[Anonymous No.1660529]

How did I do?

[Conmana No.1660548]

Once I get my tablet driver working I should be in for some fun

Some of the silhouettes I like others not so much. Good learning experience so far.

[Anonymous No.1660550]

>>1660548

noice. you are way ahead of me when it comes to gestures and dynamic poses

[Anonymous No.1660551]

This one is already finished, but I need some serious help on keeping my drawings from getting as cluttered as this ended up.

>mfw I could have just waited an extra day and had 4 different yellows to work with instead of one

goddamn that building on the left is an eyesore...

[Anonymous No.1660552]

>>1660407
Excited for Dark Souls 2 eh?

[Anonymous No.1660563]

>>1660551

if you do shit like that (cellshaded stuff) keeping cold/warm colors in check is fucking critical. i mean there's some major shapes being outlined by value differences, but you could add so much depth and appeal by cooling down certain areas

[Conmana No.1660570]

>>1660548

So I guess this works yea... It's fast I can go insane with my brush and not worry about edges too much. Alright silhouettes are pretty delicious.
Now I need to figure out how to push it from here, should be pretty easy.
>>1660552
I know I am

[Anonymous No.1660569]

>>1660563

like this

[Anonymous No.1660588]

>>1660570
i dont like you

[Anonymous No.1660597]

>>1660569
ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

[Anonymous No.1660602]

>>1659800
Good call on the nose, update #2.
Thanks; this is the first time I attempted to use charcoal like watercolor, harder than I thought.

[Anonymous No.1660603]

>>1660529
beautiful colors

thumbnail reminds me of a Turner sunset

[Anonymous No.1660604]

Does ink wash count as a drawing?

[Anonymous No.1660607]

this is supposed to be an overhead view of a crew member at the front end of a space ship, with the basic shape of a classic pirate ship.

I know it's super rough.

[Anonymous No.1660609]

>super rough
>SUPER

I don't mean to be completely and utterly rude but why did you even fucking bother posting this?

[Anonymous No.1660614]

>>1660609
because I'm trying to get better.
I have the desire to improve but I need critique because otherwise I will just not draw, and not drawing is not an option.

[Anonymous No.1660615]

>>1660614
I know this board isn't for beginners but there's only so many times I can watch the ctrlpaint videos without getting frustrated

[Anonymous No.1660617]

>>1660614

With something this rough there is nothing to even critique. Seeing as how this is supposed to be a representational piece of art and there are no recognizable forms, there is literally nothing, at least for me, to say about it except maybe something concerning the 3 or 4 colors you used.

[SomeGuyWhoPaintsToo No.1660618]

>>1658981
Excellent lines, very textural, try pulling those blues a little closer to the building. The glowing effect around the building is pretty successful in the context of your painting though. So if you do pull that blue in i'll leave how close up to you. Try to add some more dark blacks under the bottom right shape. Maybe smooth out your brush strokes in the background as well. That should push the building forward more. Right now the background is a little too equal in intensity. Hope I said something useful.

[Conmana No.1660622]

OKAY WHY THE FUCK
Silhouettes are making this so god damn easy
Now I have to push it from here
Yes finally, buttblast slap in the face to get me improving again. !!!

[FiRez !!tndrCZJHE+I No.1660623]

>>1660402
So I spent a serious time trying to fix it and now... I think I'm at peace. Moving on

Thanks again for all the feedback /ic/ and sorry for the annoyances.

[Anonymous No.1660627]

>>1660617
You're right, definitely.
That's not a fair thing for me to ask for.

[Conmana No.1660635]

>>1660622
Yep I've found my method at least I think I have. God damn it's about time.

[Anonymous No.1660644]

[Anonymous No.1660652]

>>1659412
rooooooling faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaast

[Anonymous No.1660653]

>>1660635

when you're done pls compile all your drawings into a high-res pic for download. ty

[Joe Action No.1660693]

>>1660635
What resolution do you normally work at mate?
Also are those brushes custom, default, or..?
Nice stuff for sure, gonna have to try black to white silhouettes. I kinda failed at it with this: >>1659850
I learned you shouldn't try going at it with too many varying brushes and I shouldn't go directly to color instead of sticking with my values first.
Do you have any colored pieces? I'm just desperate for some proper techniques at this point. Thanks in advance.

[Anonymous No.1660796]

photo study.

[Anonymous No.1660805]

>>1660644
You make me want to fucking throw up, you have no artistic ability whatsoever. You're obviously shit and i'll tell you how I know, you think this piece of shit is worthy of posting, lol. Not only that but you can't fucking draw and you have no idea what you're drawing which is why you left it at this stage and don't plan on rendering it further because you honestly have no idea. Try harder, Noah.

[Anonymous No.1660839]

Been using paint tool sai for this guy...

Getting a little frustrated and i'm not sure i'm liking how it's turning out.

Should i start him over, or should i keep rendering him up?

I think the wires are throwing me off.

Can anyone do an overpaint for me? Or let me know how i can make it more interesting?

[Anonymous No.1660857]

>>1660839
looks great in the thumbnail, too much mud in the full size, i would just give up on it. mud begets mud .

[Anonymous No.1660870]

>>1660839
I don't know if this helps at all...
dimmed the background a bit so the character stands out more, and made it a bit slimey

[Anonymous No.1660885]

>>1660870
needs some chromatic aberration and maybe a noise filter

[Anonymous No.1660906]

[Anonymous No.1660931]

>>1660885
Everything /ic/ hates

[Anonymous No.1660934]

>>1660931
i hate to say it, but that worked out pretty well.

[Joe Action No.1660935]

>>1660934
Kinda have to agree. Shit's 2spooky

[Anonymous No.1660941]

Done...but it still looks off.

Any suggestions?

[Anonymous No.1660949]

>>1660941
lighten the sky closer to the horizon..
Everything else looks amazing

[Anonymous No.1660952]

>>1660941
you try chromatic aberration and a noise filter too, maybe it works for everything.

[Anonymous No.1660953]

>>1660952
i don't know about this

[Anonymous No.1660955]

>>1660949
Takes too much focus away from the structure

[Anonymous No.1660972]

>>1660953
no no in the day-time you need to use a noise filter with a blur filter on color dodge and cool aberrations. :p

[Anonymous No.1660973]

>>1660953

is that a meme now?

>"try noise filter and chromatic aberration bro"

[Anonymous No.1660974]

>>1660973
I like memes :^)

[Anonymous No.1660995]

apples

[Anonymous No.1660999]

>>1660906
that's pretty clever, what is that?

[Anonymous No.1661002]

>>1660839
did some more blocking in up close
Getting rid of the muddiness.

Might also change up his posture tonight, as he's not very imposing.

[Anonymous No.1661004]

>>1660906
wow her tits look like pancakes

[Anonymous No.1661006]

>>1660995
Boring, uninspiring and cliché.

[Anonymous No.1661007]

workin on dis

[Anonymous No.1661008]

>>1661007
It's floating?

[Anonymous No.1661013]

>>1661008
its going to be on a table

[Anonymous No.1661024]

>>1661006
what is study ?

[Anonymous No.1661055]

>>1660949
why does everyone seem to love this when there are clearly so many mistakes?

[Anonymous No.1661059]

>>1661055
a few imbeciles complimented it and one guy trolled it. I hardly think anyone loves it. It's ugly and lazy, most of us just don't bother saying the obvious.

[Anonymous No.1661071]

I feel like it's pretty shitty so far. Critique always welcome.

[Anonymous No.1661072]

>>1661071
>image

[Anonymous No.1661077]

How do I capture the wonder of spacewalks?

Not a serious question btw. I know the composition is shit

[Anonymous No.1661080]

>>1661077

evoke a sense of scale and depth

[Anonymous No.1661099]

>>1661080

[Anonymous No.1661101]

>>1659051
>I don't understand how you didn't see that and think "oh shit, I'd better back up and erase that"


Because I'm a beginner, bro. I'll take everything you said to heart and try to draw what is actually there construction-wise. No need to be so jaded though.

[Anonymous No.1661102]

anyone else here constantly flirting with the idea of just creating a folio with some shitty, bland, overly tool-reliant work like noah bradley and jonas de roh and just trying to get work from it?

trying to get "legit" good is fucking haaard and seems to pay off much later (probably tenfold though)

[Anonymous No.1661107]

Another quick space thing

[Anonymous No.1661110]

>>1661102
yeah

[Anonymous No.1661111]

>>1661102
I dont like noah but hes 10x better than that.

[Anonymous No.1661124]

>>1658742
WIP Attempt #2.

[Anonymous No.1661125]

latest crap i did, random shyte

[Anonymous No.1661126]

can anyone recommend god tier dvds?

[Anonymous No.1661130]

Coloring or shading sketches digitally has always been hell for me. I never know what the fuck I'm doing. I always just putz around until something looks halfway decent.

I've been fucking around with this sketch for a while but I have no idea if I'm headed in the right direction or not.

[Anonymous No.1661131]

>>1661125

I feel like your dude should be turned the other way, with his body opening towards the fountain, not the viewer.. Right now he's going against the circular flow of the rest of the composition.

[Anonymous No.1661134]

>>1661125
goddamn that could turn out beautiful

[Anonymous No.1661136]

>>1661134

any advice how to achieve that ?

[Anonymous No.1661137]

>>1661099
>>1661080
So fucking cool. Been wanting to do a piece like this for a long time now.

[Anonymous No.1661138]

>>1661130
why don't you draw your dudes in another position

[Anonymous No.1661141]

>>1661124
Doing it in this side-by-side comparison is making me realise how much more I need to focus on subtle stuff.

[Anonymous No.1661144]

>>1661141
your problem is symbol drawing or at least to some degree. you are not accurately copying the original pic

[Anonymous No.1661145]

>>1661141

fundamentals*

[Anonymous No.1661148]

>>1661145
Back to fundamentals I go!

>>1661144
it's just so hard to break the habit. I'm posting this shit here as a way of publicly shaming myself.

[Anonymous No.1661154]

>>1661141
I've been doing a lot of Disney-inspired stuff lately, just to break into it, and it is difficult. In a lot of ways you have to scrap everything you know about facial anatomy and exaggerate everything. This was done on a bit of receipt paper, it's the first design in the style of Disney that I've been satisfied with, but I'd love some feedback!

[Anonymous No.1661157]

>>1661154
It's more of an exercise of "copy what I see" instead of facial anatomy. I found myself symbol drawing like this anon pointed out >>1661144 with how I think a mouth should be for instance but it isn't a case when it comes to disney characters for the most part.

[Anonymous No.1661161]

>>1661157
I should point out that I didn't have any reference for this, I actually drew it out while working cash at work, hence the receipt paper.

[Anonymous No.1661173]

>>1661154
Is one of her eyes much larger than the other on purpose?

[Anonymous No.1661174]

>>1661173
Forced perspective, her left eye would be closer to the viewer than her right.

[Anonymous No.1661175]

Fast tired elephant for you

[Anonymous No.1661176]

>>1661174
That's not how it works, unless you've jammed the pov right up into her face.
Now one of her eyes just looks bigger than the other.

[Anonymous No.1661183]

>>1661176
Actually, if both eyes were the same size it would look like this. Are you saying that looks more natural than the original?

[Anonymous No.1661190]

How can I go about conveying this whole comforting "atleast we have eachother" feeling any better?
Also is the wolf drawn correctly? It's my first shot at trying to draw wolves

[Anonymous No.1661196]

>>1661183
Can I puke now?

Are you trying to troll me?

[Anonymous No.1661197]

>>1661183
>>1661183
You're embarrassing yourself. Please stop replying if you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

The height of the eye would remain the same, given the distance from the viewer. Perspective has very little effect on the face, unless the viewer is extremely close.

Anyway, the angle and shape of her right eye (our left) would be different, given that eyes are not symmetrical objects. The height would remain unchanged and the width would be slightly narrower.

Pic related. It looks far more natural.

[Anonymous No.1661200]

>>1661190
looks lewd

[Anonymous No.1661201]

>>1661190
Have the girl looking to the wolf like the wolf is looking to the ground,
And nah, might want to look up some wolf references and practice drawing a few.

[Anonymous No.1661206]

>>1661197
i agree with this guy

>>1661190
right hands looks a bit too small, otherwise looks nice so far

[Anonymous No.1661207]

>>1661183
Just kill yourself already.

[Anonymous No.1661210]

>>1661190
Hands look tiny, but that could be a stylistic choice I suppose.

[Anonymous No.1661212]

>>1661183

This wasn't me, I'm the original artist who posted the picture and I agree with the smaller eye assessment.
Thanks for saving the image as 'Dumb.jpg' though...

[Anonymous No.1661221]

>>1661212
>>1661197
Oh shit, look who's a dick!

[Anonymous No.1661225]

>>1661221
I don't mind feedback, that's fine - in fact I encourage it so I can actively get better, it's just when others take my work and start photoshopping shit over it and get into squabbles amongst themselves over it, I think it goes too far, especially when they start saving it as Morenatural.png and Dumb.jpg.

[Anonymous No.1661231]

>>1661136
Just keep rendering. Also I feel like it could turn into a great landscape piece if you take the guy out but that's just my opinion.

Add a few accents of bright colours like red or yellow somewhere and it'll bring it all together.

[Anonymous No.1661236]

>>1661225
welcome to the internet. if you have a problem with this, then dont post your work.
everything that you post on 4chan can and will be saved/altered.
also:
The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.

if someone else takes your pic and gets into an argument with a third person why even bother caring about this shit? it's a pseudonymous site. it doesnt matter who you or they are. it only matters what they post and what they posted had nothing to do with you

[Anonymous No.1661242]

>>1661221
>>1661236

I agree with this dude, creedo or not, you should be directing any feedback to the artist who originally posted, not argue like some autistic mongo to another person who had nothing to do with it.

I think the eye on the left looks small too, but I'm going to tell the original artist that straight up, not cry about it. Just remember for next time.

[Anonymous No.1661243]

>>1661242
This. It may be an anonymous board, but it should still be upheld by good posts with good thought behind it.

[Anonymous No.1661248]

Alright alright, the 'eye's too big' guy fucked up, whatever, let's move on before this turns into a fucking Lifetime drama.

[Anonymous No.1661253]

>>1661248
you mean like those several other threads that got derailed today by a bunch of whiney people?(see anime general thread).

anyway, i agree. there is no point in having these stupid arguments

[Anonymous No.1661255]

>>1660999
Looks like art academy 3ds, it's like a mini painter on the 3ds, it mimics traditional media.

[Anonymous No.1661300]

School assignment

[Anonymous No.1661320]

>>1661300
His right hand looks strange. Cool concept otherwise.

[Anonymous No.1661325]

>>1661320
Thanks, I wasnt sure about his right hand either but couldnt really figure out what it was lacking. I'll just try to fix it with the painting process.

[Anonymous No.1661357]

>>1661242
And how the hell would I know if the person I replied to is the original artist or not?

[Anonymous No.1661362]

>>1661300
You might want to make it look like the magic rainbow actually requires a little effort to maintain by the dude in the picture. Right now, both his hands look fairly limp, and he looks depressed and defeated as a result of his head being bowed.
Making his hands look like they're straning would make the picture much more dynamic.

[Conmana No.1661363]

>>1660653

I guess I could
The silhouettes are too boring for my taste so today Im going to try to push action

>>1660693
Like 1000x700 for sketch - I bump 300% to render.


I think it's one of the brushes from shaddy's pack for environments - It has a hard edge so I used it. You can do the same thing with a hard brush and a texture overlay. I just like it because it feels like a brush, whatever that means.

The reason you "failed" I wouldn't call it that,Is a lack of fundies. Forms Values anatomy ect.
Best advice I can give - when it comes to rendering, experimentation, alot of it. Eventually you'll find something that works for you that you can derive enjoyment from.

I have colored images. I'm trying to reduce problems atm fixing values mood lighting pose ect in the early stages. If you see a problem fix it early don't wait till later...The headaches uhuhGHUGUGUHHU .

Also don't force yourself learning comes through time. it doesn't happen overnight. Just keep drawing.

You're getting an idea across which is what all of try to do, mad props in the hojo.

[Anonymous No.1661423]

>>1661300
He looks bored.

[Anonymous No.1661445]

>>1658642
why is it so hard to color?

[Anonymous No.1661482]

so i just colored this old drawing i did for my portfolio. i like the mood but am not happy with the feel of the composition.

anybody got an idea how i could better it/balance that out? i'm stuck because apart from the ghost it's so static.

[Anonymous No.1661495]

w-what do you think /ic/

>>1661445

all in the values my man.

[Anonymous No.1661503]

>>1661445
Because you don't have a good understanding of values and colour theory?

[Anonymous No.1661544]

any thing I should fix before I ink?
>>1661482
Make the ghost head thing look more 3D. Right now it looks like a giant mask tapped to his face, rather than something that is coming towards the camera. Reminds me of the gorrilaz Clint Eastwood music video
>>1661130
His cranium looks is grossly misshapen, and his the perspective on the nose looks odd. I really like how you shaded him though.
>>1661072
Arms are too short. Remember that straight lines rarely occur in nature, so try to make the ice cliffs more jagged. Promising

[gravyboat No.1661565]

[Anonymous No.1662356]

>>1660412
2 4 or 5

[Anonymous No.1662505]

>>1660412
Third one