ITT: REAL art.

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Anonymous Mon Jan 6 06:58:53 2014 No.1625589 [Reply] [Original]

ITT: REAL art.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 07:00:52 2014 No.1625591 File: 55 KB, 730x525, tracey-emin-my-bed[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 07:11:52 2014 No.1625595 >>1625591 How is this art?

>>	ALWAYSbrowsing/ic/ Mon Jan 6 07:21:12 2014 No.1625598 File: 257 KB, 600x579, 1-piero-manzoni-artists-shit.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1625595 just go with it you bum. don't derail this quality thread after just 2 posts. >pic related

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 07:58:28 2014 No.1625603 I don't get the point of these threads. What makes you want to >imply that art like >>1625589 isn't "real" art? Because it's not your plebby vidya gaem concept art or paintings from centuries past?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 08:15:57 2014 No.1625607 yet another "le trole xDDD" thread that will receive 157 replies and achieve nothing of worth.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 08:20:27 2014 No.1625609 >>1625598 Are you mad jelly that a master troll took a shit in a can and now it's worth nearly £100000?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 08:25:14 2014 No.1625611 >>1625609 >This the first "Master Troll Artist" were actaully decent at art. they just chose to keep pushing the "shit" they could do and get paid for. Than all the "investor capitalist" came in and destryoed everything.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 09:23:16 2014 No.1625625 File: 186 KB, 1096x812, blood-skull.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1625589 >whining about what other people do with their time and money what the fuck. picture related. menstrual blood.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 10:09:03 2014 No.1625655 >>1625625 That's actually pretty good. Where can I learn about menstrual blood painting techniques? somebody needs to write a book on the subject. James Gurney should write one and call it "Imaginative Menstruation". I would totally buy that book.

Anonymous Mon Jan 6 10:37:21 2014 No.1625684

>>1625598
This piece is simply great.

>>1625589
This is so bad, just because you have a great idea doesn't make it good.

>>1625655
It's not anything different from drawing with blood.
I bet people who use blood in painting have a hard time preserving the image.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 10:41:51 2014 No.1625687 I feel that the irony of fine art is that it's, quite literally, the epitome of capitalism. It promotes self-absorption just like capitalism does.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 10:46:51 2014 No.1625692 >>1625687 Yeah, except the part where, historically, art was only indulged in by members of the looter classes, and only recently productive people have gotten the disposable income and the inclination to buy it. Also, git out to /pol/.

Anonymous Mon Jan 6 10:54:22 2014 No.1625697

>>1625692
>only recently productive people have gotten the disposable income and the inclination to buy it.

Back in those days you would get beautiful pieces such as the 'Ecstasy of St. Theresa" though. Today you get people using their menstrual blood to paint portraits.

Plus, the people who are purchasing these pieces don't know shit about art. They only know how to talk about money. To them, a silkscreen of a soup can is fucking genius and the Mona Lisa is a waste of time and effort.

The US government financially backed this kind of art POST WW2 as a way to spread their 'freedom' to other countries.

Anonymous Mon Jan 6 10:56:21 2014 No.1625701

>>1625692

That discounts entirely the existence of any sort of folk or amateur art. People of all classes have always had an interest in art of some kind, it unsurprisingly just tended to be the wealthier who could put money into it.

Also,
>looter classes
Top kek.

Anonymous Mon Jan 6 10:59:52 2014 No.1625702

>>1625697

Like in most fileds there are plenty of people who are happy to have their tastes dictated to them by others. In the world of high-priced art the sort of people who are willing to drop a few million on a piece of art are more often than not buying for status and bragging rights. They'd snap up the Mona Lisa too if it were sale (though it is a dreadfully overrated painting).

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 7 04:00:54 2014 No.1626356 >>1625589 Would you buy this piece?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 7 07:37:52 2014 No.1626420 File: 260 KB, 150x113, 1369047750555.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1625589 Really?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 8 19:10:34 2014 No.1627714 >>1625603 tips fedora

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 8 19:50:24 2014 No.1627741 wow these are stupid. >lets do something so ridiculous that people's head's implode and they try to make sense of it all while being pretentious cunts because they can't accept that this is really just a load of shit.

>>	✓PrimalArc !!UNIimfj1UBW Wed Jan 8 20:12:54 2014 No.1627768 File: 587 KB, 1920x1080, Untitled 19.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

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>>	✓PrimalArc !!UNIimfj1UBW Wed Jan 8 20:19:54 2014 No.1627781 File: 19 KB, 212x231, Pissants.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1625589

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Anonymous Wed Jan 8 21:08:54 2014 No.1627821 [DELETED]

>>1625697

Rich people aren't stupid.

They only purchase those type of things to make them increase in value, later shipping them off to museums/instituion in order drastically reduce the amount of taxes since they are "donating to culture". They know that the general public would buy a $10 movie ticket over a $2,000 case of shit. The "worth" of a piece is unfortunately determined by the amount of powerful people who "like" it, not the general public or the amount of effort that went into it.

Anonymous Wed Jan 8 21:11:00 2014 No.1627823

>>1625697

Rich people are certain about the quality of the product that they're buying. The "worth" of a piece is unfortunately determined by the amount of powerful people who "like" it, not the general public or the amount of effort that went into it. They know that the general public wouldn't dare touch pieces like those, since public would rather buy a $10 movie ticket over a $2,000 case of shit.

They only purchase those type of things to make them increase in value, later shipping them off to museums/institution in order drastically reduce the amount of taxes since they are "contributing to culture".

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 9 17:00:53 2014 No.1628348 File: 316 KB, 2458x1800, 1388897031441.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1625589 This isnt art, this is the same as smearing poop.Shes a hack that hopes her vagina will get her respect in the artworld. also, her drawing skills are terrible.

Anonymous Sat Jan 11 00:06:02 2014 No.1629117
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>>1625589
this happens when you have a lot of free time, complete lack of technique and skill, and being a sloth. also, feminism.

>tl;dr: lazy idiots that dont want serious drawing practice

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 11 07:13:19 2014 No.1629230 /ic/ proves once again that it will never make any attempt to understand art after the 19th century

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>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 12 17:21:19 2014 No.1630336 >>1629230 as a kid who is about to leave his teens, i can deal with this

Anonymous Sun Jan 12 17:42:08 2014 No.1630357

>>1629230
There is nothing to understand. It started with great artists experimenting within their mediums and ended with armies of hacks with zero skill stroking their egos.

You may be the "deepest" bitch in this world (is it me or are females more prone to this shit?) but your painting is not worth shit unless you can do a proper and somewhat impressive figure drawing/still life/whatever.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 12 17:46:06 2014 No.1630361 C'mon folks, we know women can't into anything

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 12 17:53:06 2014 No.1630367 >>1629230 All normal, healthy people think this menstrual blood/piss christ/mary in elephant shit stuff is garbage. It's the only the 2DEEP4U pseudo-intellectuals and rich jews who pretend it's art.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 12 17:56:06 2014 No.1630375 >>1629230 at least it's better than kids who think that everything older than theirself sucks

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 14 09:59:39 2014 No.1631597 >>1630361 Then why do draw them? Why do you fap to them? Why do you feel lonely when you don't have a gf?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 14 11:09:13 2014 No.1631627 >>1631597 >objectify Exactly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 14 22:06:52 2014 No.1631979 File: 187 KB, 1024x1365, theathre_by_7markus7-d6n45ym.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1625595 >>1625687 >>1626420 >>1627741 >>1628348 >>1629117 >>1630357 are you telling me that my art is not art!?

Anonymous Tue Jan 14 22:17:52 2014 No.1631988

>>1625589
Far as I am concerned to the fags who claim that this isn't art, I would like to remind everyone that art is a completely subjective term.

Fuck, for all I care she could have save her piss and used that as paint instead.

You /ic/ fags will argue about anything when it comes to art yet you don't realize you just can't without acknowledging this small fact.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 15 03:38:52 2014 No.1632128 >>1631597 Because my body is telling me to, duh. You really think it's some sort of achievemend?

Anonymous Wed Jan 15 04:24:24 2014 No.1632149
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Art is not a measurable or definable idea. But you can still tell good art from bad art, because good art makes you feel something deeper than just shallow confusion at puerile shock media.

To take something subjective like art, something entirely made by humans with no real definition, and apply objective value to it, you have to look at what effect it has on the human emotional or mental state.

To me, I don't care what she painted it with, it's just not a good piece of work. It doesn't make me feel anything other than mild annoyance at the fact that she's clearly fucking with us, just another charlatan that creates garbage and then says "if you don't get it then you must not be as important or as smart as TRUE ARTISTS."

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 15 20:53:54 2014 No.1632641 >>1632149 it doesn't matter if it's menstrual blood or regular paint, it's still a painting. You may not like it, but that doesn't mean you hold a monopoly on art.

Anonymous Thu Jan 16 08:00:07 2014 No.1632940

>>1632641
What the fuck did I just say?

>to me I don't care what she painted with

I gave a definition of what good art is TO ME- something that ha meaningful impact on one's emotional or mental state.

Like I said, this shit is worthless to me because it's just not good, and she's clearly just trying to get attention by using a medium that most people are clearly going to find distasteful. She's like the artist version of the TV show Brickleberry: "Let's not be funny, let's offend as many people as possible in an effort to appear edgy."

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 16 08:03:07 2014 No.1632942 File: 80 KB, 634x861, 1389877416099.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Too bad she can't paint like this. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2214480/Vincent-Castiglia-Meet-artist-paints-BLOOD.html

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 16 08:05:37 2014 No.1632943 >>1630336 What age are you?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 16 08:29:37 2014 No.1632945 Can't you people just let this fucking thread die already. I'm tired of seeing that period stained bitch every time i scroll down.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 16 08:30:07 2014 No.1632946 Can't you people just let this fucking thread die already. I'm tired of seeing that period stained bitch every time i scroll down.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 16 08:54:54 2014 No.1632949 >>1632946 bump

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 16 10:32:12 2014 No.1632984 >not posting goatswithbonersmakingout.jpg Stay plebian /ic/

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 17 00:57:14 2014 No.1633339 Why are women so disgusting?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 17 01:07:15 2014 No.1633342 >>1632946 el bumpo

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 17 01:25:45 2014 No.1633351 >>1633339 Based on a single individual? There aren't equally disgusting males? Typical foreveralone 4chan hermit. I ain't even female, nigga u just dumb.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 17 02:52:55 2014 No.1633378 >>1633351 He must be a faggot or something.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 17 04:35:57 2014 No.1633442 Why are women so disgusting?

Anonymous Fri Jan 17 04:58:45 2014 No.1633451

>>1630367
>>1628348
>>1625603

fuck's sake. why is everyone arguing about whether this or that piece isn't REAL ART or not? instead you should be arguing about whether this or shit piece is GOOD ART or not. the term "art" has a massively wide scope. I can shit on a canvas and get it installed in a galley, and yes it is art. but it's up to you to decide if it's good art or not.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 17 04:59:45 2014 No.1633452 >>1633451 this or that piece* fuck.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 17 23:05:06 2014 No.1634011 BUMP

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 17 23:48:36 2014 No.1634045 >>1632943 there is an eight-teen and nine-teen too

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 01:00:14 2014 No.1634074 File: 128 KB, 662x1328, 1383249974881.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1625589

Anonymous Sat Jan 18 02:17:35 2014 No.1634092

>live in the south
>have no family or friends
>art is my only passion, albeit vague and unrefined
>poor, free ride through college because of a high ACT score
>living off of foster care endgame
>fast food job
>my own drawing is becoming my only form of entertainment and meditation
>still struggling to break out of symbol drawing
>still struggling to break out of my artistic and economic poverty

And then I see these fucking kids squandering art school with their edgy blue pill art.

Fuck them.
Fuck anyone who drops out of art school.

I don't have a safety net, and it's forcing me to claw my way out of mediocrity.

My finger tips aren't very sharp.

I'm sad. And I just got willow charcoal all over this keyboard. Fuck.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 03:56:10 2014 No.1634117 >>1634092 >symbol drawing Just asking... is this an /ic/ term, is it it an established one? I'm trying to find some more examples of symbol drawing on Google, but no luck.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 04:11:40 2014 No.1634124 >>1634117 I believe Betty Edwards coined it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 04:14:40 2014 No.1634125 >>1634124 Don't most drawings start out their life as "symbol" drawings (guidelines, sketches)?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 04:41:57 2014 No.1634129 >>1634125 since when are guidlines and sketches symbol drawings what the fuck

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 04:52:28 2014 No.1634130 >>1634125 Symbol drawing is like this <3 heart shape. Hearts don't look like that, hence it's a symbol representing a heart. Guidelines aren't symbolic.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 04:59:57 2014 No.1634133 >>1630054 >saved Am I evil for laughing?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 05:05:27 2014 No.1634134 File: 1.73 MB, 320x240, ace-ventura-oh-my-god-o.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1631627 You have no idea how long I've waited to post this gif.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 05:42:59 2014 No.1634139 >>1634074 Please notice how most of this shit is done by females. And when males do it it's relatively tame. Another fucking proof that they are subhuman attentionwhoring scum who can't into good art unless it's a rare exception.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 06:28:03 2014 No.1634160 >>1634139 Does anybody have a picture of that asshole gallery? I really want to call this guy a faggot.

Anonymous Sat Jan 18 06:58:33 2014 No.1634164

>>1634160
For every asshole gallery there are 10 pieces of shit like >>1625591 made by crazy bitches.

And yet there were no female da Vincis.

And even when we see an exception - decent female artist, we all know that she built her skill on centuries old art heritage created by males.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 07:01:04 2014 No.1634165 >>1634164 fuck off idiot

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 07:08:34 2014 No.1634168 >>1634165 Whatever, girl.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 07:44:33 2014 No.1634171 >>1630357 >>1630367 You guys may be right, but nevertheless what I said is true: /ic/ will never make any effort to understand this stuff. That's strange, considering /ic/ discusses it so often, whether as a provocation of trolls or not.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 07:47:03 2014 No.1634172 >>1634164 Wow wtf why is 4CHAN so sexist? This place is sooo unlike reddit. Im out and youll never see my tits. Agree with this girl >>1634165 Girl Power! xD

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 07:54:07 2014 No.1634178 >>1634172 what the fuck

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 07:56:06 2014 No.1634179 >>1634172 >this new Or trolling idiot

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 07:58:06 2014 No.1634180 >>1634179 >>1634178 This post >>1634172 Is ironic shitposting in order to make >>1634165 look stupid

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 08:02:06 2014 No.1634181 File: 640 KB, 800x1800, troll sherlock holmes.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1634180 Pic related, it's you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 08:05:07 2014 No.1634182 >>1634181 just trying to help, friend sometimes it gets hard to tell whats real and what isn't.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 11:27:42 2014 No.1634246 File: 430 KB, 426x640, photo.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This thread kind of sucks

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>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 12:01:12 2014 No.1634258 File: 30 KB, 210x144, 1386765971293.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] while you're there don't forget to post those few least shitty works of hitler, 'cultured' you

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 12:10:12 2014 No.1634265 >>1634258 I loled much more than i should have because of that pic

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 12:19:12 2014 No.1634268 >>1634258 >'cultured' you You're defending smearing menstrual blood on your face as art, who's the one pretending to be cultured here?

Anonymous Sat Jan 18 13:06:06 2014 No.1634288

>>1634164
>no female da Vincis
First of all, his name is Leonardo. Secondly, Artemisia Gentileschi is a famous female artist from that general era (she's Baroque). Thirdly, sexism was much more rampant then and the art world wasn't as open to women as it was to men. That's like claiming blacks are inferior because there are no black Founding Fathers.

There are plenty of male hacks. Why reference Emin if you aren't going to mention Hirst? What about talented women like Saville or Monks? I'm not sure why you neckbeards fear women, but enjoy fucking a flashlight into your forties and never having a meaningful romantic relationship.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 13:56:09 2014 No.1634310 Stop bumping this shitty thread.

Anonymous Sat Jan 18 13:57:09 2014 No.1634311
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>>1634288
>Artemisia Gentileschi is a famous female artist
Wow. She's so good! Totally famous thanks to her skill and not because she was born with tits and happened to draw.

>HURHUR DATS SEXIST =((((
> I mean it's not like rich womyn of that era participated in various forms of art as much (or even more with war and having to earn for a living in mind) as males did, right? That's totally patriarchy's fault!

Anonymous Sat Jan 18 14:06:40 2014 No.1634317

>>1634311
Gentileschi could wipe the floor with you, and if you knew anything about her life than the sexism of the time would be obvious to you. But forms of artistic education that were open to men were not open to women through history. It really shows your lack of any and all historical knowledge that you believe there was no gender bias hundreds of years ago. Do you think that was an invention of the 20th century, and the renaissance was some utopia where men and women were social equals? Excellent job ignoring the points about contemporary female artists too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 14:11:10 2014 No.1634321 Women are better at being decent but they suck at being best. You can't argue with that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 15:06:13 2014 No.1634356 >>1634164 >no decent female artists are you retarded?

Anonymous Sat Jan 18 16:50:46 2014 No.1634418

>>1634164
are you serious? you realise up until recent times women in general were very rarely allowed to train as artists as society was obviously far more patriarchal than it is today and women were expected to do nothing more than domestic tasks.
I don't like Tracy Emin and i think whatever is going on in the OP is gross but there is equal amounts of bullshit modern art created by dudes - Damien Hurst, need I say more? You can't just dismiss female artists based on your own mommy issues.
(p.s. i bet your dick is tiny)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 17:10:16 2014 No.1634425 >>1634418 While what you've said is mostly correct don't buy into the bullshit that women were chained to the oven until the 60s.

Anonymous Sat Jan 18 18:18:46 2014 No.1634450

>>1634418
Lots of upper class females participated in all kinds of art because their servants did all the chores anyways.

And modern society is even worse because girls who love to draw have a luxury of not being thrown into sports by their parents.

And yet males are still best at art.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 18:19:46 2014 No.1634451 Why does everyone get butthurt if you say that men produce better art than females. It's historically correct.

Anonymous Sat Jan 18 18:44:16 2014 No.1634471

>>1634451
because it's stupid to say that.
it's just a generalization.
>men produce better art than females
if this isn't a generalization i don't know what is.

you just have to wonder what the point in saying those things are.
sure, the very best are usually men, but there are many females with a great amount of skill out there too.

altogether this is just a fucking stupid topic to venture into. you think saying "men are generally better" will make algenpfleger a better artist than janashi?
what's the point here?

i want /pol/ to leave forever.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 19:51:57 2014 No.1634509 File: 82 KB, 730x821, 1390092713645.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This thread is now about badass female artists.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 19:52:57 2014 No.1634510 File: 92 KB, 658x700, IE-132_12-658x700.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Inka Essenhigh

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 19:53:57 2014 No.1634512 File: 136 KB, 1063x704, NYC13503.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 19:56:27 2014 No.1634517 File: 404 KB, 1458x550, pd_29.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Natalie Frank

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 19:56:58 2014 No.1634520 File: 278 KB, 1200x701, 1390093014742.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 19:58:57 2014 No.1634522 File: 552 KB, 1920x2224, 1376105129574.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Patricia Watwood

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 19:59:27 2014 No.1634523 File: 89 KB, 600x912, 1964695337442372743.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 20:06:29 2014 No.1634529 File: 119 KB, 471x600, 03Moss_Glen_Monoprint.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Susanna Coffey

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>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 20:33:00 2014 No.1634543 File: 1.81 MB, 1400x936, koismall.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Alyssa Monks

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Anonymous Sun Jan 19 01:45:19 2014 No.1634693

>>1634471
>if this isn't a generalization i don't know what is.
But this generalization is true. Yes I am definitely not better than best female artists but it still doesn't change the fact that they are generally worse at this thing even with all opportunities handed to them.

You are the only one butthurt here because other side is merely stating facts.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 01:47:48 2014 No.1634695 File: 1.43 MB, 1178x1560, 1390114042515.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1634693 yeah it's practically science. Posting Jenny Morgan

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>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 01:50:49 2014 No.1634699 File: 223 KB, 1140x1146, jenny-saville.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Jenny Saville

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>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 01:58:48 2014 No.1634705 File: 457 KB, 1115x1200, 1390114716768.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Artemisia Gentileschi

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>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 02:20:49 2014 No.1634713 File: 389 KB, 824x1024, 1390116024787.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Berthe Morisot

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>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 02:33:50 2014 No.1634721 File: 190 KB, 914x808, 1390116809035.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Käthe Kollwitz

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>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 02:42:50 2014 No.1634726 >>1634693 does it make your ego feel better to think that way?

Anonymous Sun Jan 19 03:39:23 2014 No.1634742

>>1630367
hay, i like it when art pieces are made like piss christ if only because it pisses off the people who believe that shit so much. it also makes you look at the people who vehemently hate it and think "do i really share the same planet as people this fucking stupid?"

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 03:40:53 2014 No.1634743 >>1634726 No. Why would it? It's just facts.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 05:50:31 2014 No.1634787 >>1634743 What facts? Women draw worse than men? What kind of fact is that, you just got that out of your ass. Was proven wrong and you are still writing that to make yourself feel better.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 06:13:16 2014 No.1634793 >>1634787 So are you implying that women draw better than men? I mean, with all those cognitive and hormonal differences between males and females one gender HAS to be better at drawing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 06:15:16 2014 No.1634794 >>1634793 What? I don't imply any gender draws better than the other, both have people who draw good. What the fuck is wrong with you? I'm out.

Anonymous Sun Jan 19 06:34:03 2014 No.1634803

In my opinion, OP's post is crap. Not because the modern art story or that creepy idea of painting with vag blood, but because is meaning is stupid: women are discriminated everywhere, for every dumb reason one could think, and that bitch complains about her period?!

And for the records, men have produced better art because they have produced MORE art: women usually couldn't become artist 'cause sexism and all the "woman belongs to the house" shit. It's only by this half of the century that women are allowed to do men's stuff like working, writing, and doing art.

Yep, i know, my english is awful

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 07:25:33 2014 No.1634818 >>1634803 >It's only by this half of the century that women are allowed to do men's stuff like working, writing, and doing art. >this half of the century Where do people get this idea that women had no rights before second wave feminism?

Anonymous Sun Jan 19 07:48:04 2014 No.1634824

>>1634693
>but it still doesn't change the fact that they are generally worse at this thing..
>...even with all opportunities handed to them.
oh nice fact there. where did it come from? from your gaping anus?

>>1634793
>>1634743
>>1634693
anon pls. if you want to talk about "facts" and "truth", we should maybe clarify what kind of facts we are talking about here.
the only fact you really have going for you is the fact that men have a higher skill ceiling
but notice how that doesn't mean that women have a particulary low ceiling either.
and again i have to wonder what the point is. are you saying women should stop getting into art? what exactly are you people trying to say?

ther problem here is that a generalization can not be a fact. the various statistical data may be factual, but the generalized statement can not be a fact, otherwise it wouldn't be a generalization. it should be obvious but it can't be a fact and a generalization at the same time.

so yes, historically, men have shown to have a higher skill ceiling. that's (most likely) true.
but saying "men are better artists than women"? that's not a fact. it's a generalization.
/pol/faggots just like to call their statements facts to make their arguements less vulnerable. but most of the time they're not facts at all.
the world isn't so black and white that you could call something like that a "fact".

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 09:44:27 2014 No.1634868 Are females even human?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 10:07:58 2014 No.1634872 >>1634868 No. They are monsters to steal your money and seeds.

>>	OP Sun Jan 19 11:29:28 2014 No.1634917 >>1634311 she's better than all /ic/ though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 12:14:27 2014 No.1634937 File: 1015 KB, 674x1000, 1390151662217.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Mary Cassatt

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>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 12:17:57 2014 No.1634942 File: 111 KB, 750x1019, 1390151860558.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anne Vallayer-Coster

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>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 12:24:27 2014 No.1634948 File: 1.69 MB, 3528x1672, 1390152260501.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1634743 I've got some facts right here for you buddy. Rosa Bonheur.

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Anonymous Sun Jan 19 13:58:05 2014 No.1635026

>frustrated white knights wiping thread with art

>>1634824
>the only fact you really have going for you is the fact that men have a higher skill ceiling
Exactly.

>but saying "men are better artists than women"? that's not a fact. it's a generalization.
No. Saying "I haven't seen their works but Billy is better at art than Anna because Anna is female" is generalisation. Saying "men are better artist than women" is stating obvious based on the fact you already agreed with.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 14:02:05 2014 No.1635028 File: 49 KB, 500x500, Untitled-1.fw.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is digital art made by an real artist

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 14:03:05 2014 No.1635030 File: 22 KB, 516x490, 1388650671282.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1625589 goldstein pls go

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 14:11:05 2014 No.1635036 File: 467 KB, 1200x1202, 1390158693622.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1635026 I just enjoy dumping good art work, the only one frustrated here is you. <<Cecily Brown

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>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 14:16:05 2014 No.1635043 File: 128 KB, 1118x1536, a-mi-voix-1958.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Dorothea Tanning

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 14:17:05 2014 No.1635046 File: 530 KB, 871x576, 63-1-01-chiens-de-cythere3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

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>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 14:18:05 2014 No.1635048 >>1634693 >>1634451 >>1634450 <iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/72nK7APr6Xs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 14:20:36 2014 No.1635052 >>1634693 >>1634451 >>1634450 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72nK7APr6Xs

Anonymous Sun Jan 19 14:24:05 2014 No.1635055

>>1635026
no. not really. you have to ask yourself, just HOW are men better artists than women?
which would lead us back to the higher skill ceiling.
but if it's just that, you can't say that "men are better artists than women" is a fact since that would imply much more than just the part with the higher skill ceiling.
it is exactly a generalization because it is only partly true, but you treat it as completely true anyway.
and there is a huge gap between that and an actual FACT.

if we go into semantics, just adding the words "on average" would make your statement true. but without those it's just a generalization.

Anonymous Sun Jan 19 14:30:05 2014 No.1635059
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>>1635055
I don't understand why you think there's a higher skill ceiling for men. Is it because of the dimples in the skull, seen here:
>>1635052
Or is there another reason?

Anyway, here's some Lisa Yuskavage.

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>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 14:38:38 2014 No.1635065 File: 1.20 MB, 1640x1967, yuskavage3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Sun Jan 19 14:39:38 2014 No.1635066

>>1635059
maybe there will be a female grandmaster in the future. it's kinda pointless to argue because it's all about potential. time will tell.
for now i just assumed as true it for arguements sake.
because the artists with the "most" skill so far have been men.

but as i said before, and as your posts show: it's kinda pointless to mention since it's not like the female ceiling is particulary low or anything.

Anonymous Sun Jan 19 14:42:38 2014 No.1635072
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>>1635055
the average male artist isn't any better than the average female artist, there are just more great male painters than great female painters, because they have historically had an easier time entering in and training in the field of art. There are still artists of both genders, and there is no logical reason why the great male artists should inherently be more skilled than the great female artists.

Anonymous Sun Jan 19 14:46:38 2014 No.1635076

>>1635066
There are no 'old master' females because women weren't allowed to train in the workshops of master painters, and it was thought lewd that they should be allowed to study nude models. Most U.S. presidents have been white, it's a fact. But yes, the art world is wide open now and we're seeing a large number of talented female artists come to prominence in the contemporary art world.

Though personally I think Artemisia did a better job with Judith and Holofernes than Caravaggio did, and Cassatt is as good as any impressionist.

Anonymous Sun Jan 19 14:56:39 2014 No.1635083

>>1635076
well i know. but regardless of that, there is no master on that level, and right now that is a fact.
that's why i didn't argue it. we can only argue about possibilities and that leads to nothing productive.

>>1635072
maybe you replied to the wrong person

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>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 15:07:08 2014 No.1635087 >>1631979 it's "art" but it's shit

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 15:20:40 2014 No.1635091 >>1635083 are you the guy who said 'on average'? if so, then the comment is for you. Also I think there are several artists in this thread who are 'on that level', maybe not in terms of innovation but in terms of technical proficiency no doubt.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 17:04:01 2014 No.1635137 File: 1014 KB, 1044x1364, Jenny Morgan 4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just gonna dump some Jenny Morgan since you haven't already.

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>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 17:07:00 2014 No.1635142 >>1635137 But I did: >>1634695 >>1634696 >>1634697 More doesn't hurt though.

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>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 17:08:00 2014 No.1635143 >>1635142 oh sorry I didn't see those.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 20:06:40 2014 No.1635231 File: 2.12 MB, 1055x1200, urlsm.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Judith Leyster

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>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 20:12:40 2014 No.1635240 >>1625655 thanks for that chuckle

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 20:18:10 2014 No.1635242 File: 238 KB, 1312x1600, ruysch still reich.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Rachel Ruysch

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>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 21:43:11 2014 No.1635288 >>1628348 that was a good swedish movie

>>	Newguy !03dVffYzKQ Mon Jan 20 00:47:56 2014 No.1635377 ITT: Butthurt landwhales

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 20 02:00:29 2014 No.1635411 Lyl, have you landwhales actually made good art? #reqt

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 20 11:25:09 2014 No.1635610 >>1635377 I've posted 90% of the art in this thread, and I'm a scrawny dude. Y u mad tho?

Anonymous Mon Jan 20 12:05:16 2014 No.1635626

The discussions in these threads are horrible.
>blablabla muh aesthetic value
>blablabla muh integrity
>blablabla y is this shit famous?

Just stop it. Per definition art is anything made by humans. Fuck your aesthetic value. The reason a lot things exist is because they can. You may want to see some kind of deeper meaning behind it but that's your thing. The same way whatever god you believe in your thing is. Accept that not everyone gives a rat's ass about an idea of a piece of art and others should respect that there are people who like to see some kind of meaning in something.
Fact is: Whatever you are looking at exists in one way or another. Deal with it and stop whining about why people do this shit. Because they can

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 20 12:09:47 2014 No.1635630 >>1634539 this is really good

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 20 12:20:47 2014 No.1635639 >>1635626 Go away, wannabe mediators are the most annoying party in any argument.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 20 12:40:16 2014 No.1635651 File: 129 KB, 635x800, mw00422.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Mary Beale

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 20 12:50:16 2014 No.1635656 >>1635639 >i have nothing better to do in my free time than to complain about useless shit and get mad about things others do even though they dont affect me

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 20 15:41:08 2014 No.1635761 >>1635656 So you mean exactly like what you're doing ITT?

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 20 22:36:37 2014 No.1636053 File: 1.40 MB, 994x1200, 1390275375352.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Angelica Kauffman

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 20 22:39:37 2014 No.1636057 File: 226 KB, 850x1024, 1390275547413.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Paula Modersohn-Becker

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 21 17:48:26 2014 No.1636686 >>1634317 0/10

Anonymous Tue Jan 21 17:58:26 2014 No.1636694

>>1625589
i wonder if people would respond to this better if it was drawn well.
'well it's a gross but you can't deny she's an artist and it's an issue i haven't thought about'

rather than the reality 'oh come on , she's suppose to be an artist?! she can't even fucking draw!! goofy bitch.'

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 21 18:01:26 2014 No.1636698 >>1636694 well that's her fault for not being able to draw. someone else actually posted a guy who makes pictures using his own blood, but no one replied to him even though those pics are pretty good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 21 18:45:48 2014 No.1636744 >>1625655 >menstrual blood technique PFFT AHAHAHAHA

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 21 18:50:19 2014 No.1636748 >>1630054 cool to look at, and funny 10/10 would buy at auction

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 21 18:51:48 2014 No.1636752 >>1631627 >hashtagshotsfired

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 21 18:52:18 2014 No.1636753 >>1632946 nice sage there buddy

Anonymous Tue Jan 21 18:58:18 2014 No.1636757

>>1634092
>high ACT score
>go to art school
>flippin burgers

Christ mate, don't put all your eggs in one basket.
Also, by symbol drawing do you mean like actual symbols and designs?
Cause you could just be a tatto artist, or ya know go back to be a graphic designer.

Or you know... You could move to New Orleans where i live and thrive off of art.

Feelsgoodman

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 21 19:01:48 2014 No.1636758 >>1634172 >this much shitposting

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 21 19:04:18 2014 No.1636762 >>1634246 Just wait till Art History Class or painting class >>1634509 Im not upset about female artists. A lot of my favorite artists ARE female, Its just the abstract battle of the 21st centry that is coiling people up

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 21 19:07:49 2014 No.1636764 >>1635063 >dat cooch goodlord just wanna lick it all day

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