/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.1606262]

I need your help, pr/ic/ks. Do you have any references specifically designed to teach a noob how to draw different races? Many thanks

[Anonymous No.1606270]

the difference is mostly in the skin color and features. facial bone structure varies, but shouldn't be too important for the artist. study different ethnicities from different angles, try to replicate it from your imagination, rinse, repeat.

google images is your friend.

[Anonymous No.1606276]

They say it's nice to give something back so i'll share with you something i would love to hear when i was asking questions like that.
If you don't know how draw draw/paint something it means you don't understand it. You might know that black peaople have black skin and white people have white skin. But you can't describe how their faces actual look.
Sooo.... open few pictures of one race and start describing what you see. Now here is a cache so let me write every single word that is the most important once again: describe what you see. Don't just think, TALK like there would be someone in the room and you wan't to teach him how Asians look, what is common to all of them.
Once you UNDERSTAND, all you have to do is apply and you won't even need a reference. You'll draw your own version of black, white, orange, purple race.

aaanddd again... if you will fail when you'll get to the eyes, or hair, or mouths it only means, and really ONLY means that you don't understand. Open reference again, analyze, teach yourself loud, close reference and do it again.

Believe me my friend. This is a bit harder than copying a reference or a tutorial directly, but the knowledge you will gain is priceless. You will know those "what is common to them", "how eye look like", "what do they dress",.. for the rest of the life. And once you know that, you can draw it.

And once again. If you want to really learn something, learn that way. If you want to be a copy machine, copy reference, tutorials and illustrations from book. But that will only make you good at copying.

Good Luck
MC

[Anonymous No.1606286]

>>1606276
Thanks m8, I'm already doing that. I'm slowly working myself through Africa and South America at the moment, I just thought if someone'd know a way to git gud at this faster, it'd have to be /ic/

[Anonymous No.1606292]

>>1606286

Well, another tip for you:
When you are trying to learn to draw something, do it the way it will make you think the most. And the things that make you think a lot aren't fast. You might spen one day just for studying the eyes. But if you will study corectly you will know how to draw damn eyes for rest of your life. Don't rush. There is no shortcut. It takes time.
Only faster thing is opening reference and copying what you see, but next day you won't have an idea how to draw same face again.

[Anonymous No.1606297]

>>1606292
>tfw using google image search for random racial reference
>tfw struggling with the goddamn eyebrows of Asa Akira
>tfw no face

[Anonymous No.1606300]

>>1606297

>>ftw able to be draw whatever you want from your imagination once you understand

[Anonymous No.1606302]

>>1606300
I know! But my RNG coulda picked someone I haven't spent hours masturbating to. It's kinda distracting

[Anonymous No.1606308]

>>1606302

get out

[Anonymous No.1606312]

>>1606308
make me

[Anonymous No.1606318]

>>1606302
>watching porn

how plebeian

[Anonymous No.1606325]

there is always the shrimp method (draw something how you think it looks, then draw from reference photo, then draw it again without using reference; rinse, lather, repeat)

please keep in mind that while you are doing studies, if you are trying to replicate a specific ethnicity (example: "Chinese" versus the unspecific "Asian") then you should probably use reference, even if you have experience drawing "Asians."

[Anonymous No.1606328]

>how to draw different races?
you don't need to know anything, just draw on top of reference

[Anonymous No.1606330]

>>1606325
I am trying to learn specifics (e.g. Ethiopian, Himba, African-Americans instead of "blacks")

[Anonymous No.1606331]

>>1606328
you know what? Go even further and just trace dat shit, no one will notice

[Anonymous No.1606335]

>>1606331
yeah, that's what i meant, but i didn't want to say the taboo word. let's just call it "using reference"

[Anonymous No.1606338]

>>1606330
awesome <3

(btw, pic related is a Melanesian child; a significant percent of their population has naturally occurring blond hair, which evolved separately from European blonds and is a completely different gene; neat stuff.)

[Anonymous No.1606344]

>>1606302
>>1606328
>>1606330
>>1606335

You see, here is example of people who wanted to achieve something in art but failed at doing it hard way.
Don't be one of them. You don't want to work at Walmart as they do for the res of your life.

[Anonymous No.1606345]

>>1606338
pedo jerking off to naked african children

[Anonymous No.1606346]

>>1606338

Don't the aborigines have all sorts of different hair colors?

[Anonymous No.1606353]

>>1606346
idk about Melanesian Aboriginals but the australian ones come in blonde and black, and red if they have the deficiency which turns your hair red. but there are lots and lots of people who are half-caste or quadroons or even octoroons who still look pretty aboriginal and identify as aboriginal and they can have an assortment of hair types and colours.

the blonde ones come from the desert mainly, i think it's a mutation or something though - it isn't like the whole tribe is blonde or all the siblings even.


+ obviously grey and white.

[Anonymous No.1606354]

>>1606344
>hard way.
that's stupid. do you also run to school/work, send postal mail and eat with chopsticks?

[Anonymous No.1606357]

>>1606353
forgot to say usually only the children are blonde, it goes away in adulthood and it's mainly girls.

[Anonymous No.1606358]

>>1606354

>>didn't get the message

[Anonymous No.1606360]

>>1606358
ooh, i see. my sarcasm meter is broken.

[Anonymous No.1606362]

>>1606353
or maybe it is the whole tribe, i'm not actually sure.

[Anonymous No.1606502]

>>1606262
http://fav.me/dj2uv5
I'd take her tutorials/spreadsheets with a grain of salt, but when it comes to raw information they can be quite useful.

[Anonymous No.1606513]

>>1606353
>>1606357
>>1606362
Melanesians are typically South East Islanders; the articles I have read on them did not mention anything about the hair fading into adulthood, although you see that with Europeans too. However, a quick google image search revealed several photos of adult Melanesians with blond hair.

As for population, about 10% are blond, which is a "significant percent" of the population, roughly the same as Ireland.

[Anonymous No.1606539]

There are differences with skulls due to the climate each set of people grew up in. I forgot what the particular field is called, but it's out there in google-land somewhere.

Though the best way to learn to, actually, draw people of different ethnicities as others have said. My drawing instructor showed me how to construct a base of the human head and from there I can adjust the skeletal structure for whatever face I am drawing. That base and, constantly, drawing people has helped my characters avoid the sameface curse that I see plague tons of artists.

[Anonymous No.1606659]

I've been trying to find out the different facial features of different races too and this is what i've generally found

[Anonymous No.1606667]

>>1606659
>Willam Dafoe, Bruce Lee, and Sidney Poitier
>starring in
>how to into art: a racial study

Jokes aside, pretty true generalizations.

[Anonymous No.1606668]

>cake

Cake good.

[Anonymous No.1606691]

>>1606513
i was talking about australian aboriginals, whose hair typically fades.

[Anonymous No.1606745]

>>1606270
Bone structure (and musculature) IS facial features. Color is a secondary concern. I mean, if somebody drew an accurate, unshaded line art picture of a black person, you wouldn't mistake it for a causasian just because it was uncolored.

[Anonymous No.1606760]

this may help someone

[Anonymous No.1607418]

from a month ago

[Anonymous No.1607467]

>>1606760
Not op, didn't look for it but thanks. It was interesting anyways

[Anonymous No.1607539]

>>1607418
Heads look flat, try to focus on the shapes of the head rather than placing facial features haphazardly.

[Anonymous No.1607569]

>>1607418
Niggas..

[Anonymous No.1608105]

>>1607539
doing that right now

>>1607569
well duh

[Anonymous No.1610242]

>>1606262
Here

[Anonymous No.1610739]

>>1610242
>almost every single East Asian and European country represented on chart.
>Only three representations hailing from Africa.
>Africa most ethnically diverse continent in the world

[Anonymous No.1610771]

>>1610739
fuck off nigger

[Anonymous No.1610805]

>>1610771
you fuck off, I want to learn something based on reality and not Eurasiacentrism.

[Anonymous No.1610856]

>>1610739
West African, Central African, Ethiopian, South African (what, she doesn't count because she's white? Racist). African American and Iranian/Afghan could also be considered relevant.

[Anonymous No.1610861]

>>1610856
She doesn't count because she migrated there and isn't native. As far as I know, only niggers are native to Africa; anyone else is an empirical colonist. I'm not defending this faggot:

>>1610739
We can both agree he's retarded for thinking any artist would even give two shits about learning the multitude of ethnic variances among bush monkeys.

>what, she doesn't count because she's white? Racist

I just don't get how the fuck you've come to the conclusion that spewing the same shit retarded 'das racist' shit is any smarter.

[Anonymous No.1610862]

>>1610861
>empirical
imperial, sorry. the stupidity of this thread is rubbing off on me.

[Anonymous No.1610866]

>>1610856
>African American and Iranian/Afghan could also be considered relevant.
What do you mean?

[Anonymous No.1610867]

>>1610861
Get back to /pol/ you dumb fuck.
As far as i'm concerned, only native americans actually belong to america since everyone else is a colonist.

What? that doesn't reflect todays reality? who cares! I'm a dumb faggot from /pol/.

[Anonymous No.1610877]

>>1610866
Lots of Arabs in north Africa - Egypt, etc.

(Hell, Indian could be considered relevant as there's so many of them in East Africa...)

[Anonymous No.1610881]

>>1610867
Yeah, because the American population is 90% redskins and Africa is 90% South Africans. When someone says "American", I don't think Navaho Cherokee Pocahontas; I think white, motherfucker. When someone says African, I don't think whites; I think niggers.

Dumb faggot from /basement/. Go /out/ sometime and learn.

[Anonymous No.1610882]

>>1610881
>Most ethnically diverse continent
>ONLY BLACKS HUR HUR HUR

[Anonymous No.1610888]

>>1610877
I still don't get what you mean. Iranians and Afghans aren't Arabs, and neither country is in Africa.

[Anonymous No.1610964]

>>1610882
>hurr muh ethnical diversity
why don't you go to africa for some ethnic black dicks, i know a girl who went to africa who wanted to fuck like an animal because she was so in love with tribal uncultured subhumans.

[Anonymous No.1613670]

>>1610739
I didn't make the chart, I just posted it.
Also, I'm not white.
I don't know whether its biased or not,
I didn't really care. I just wanted to post something to help people draw.

[Anonymous No.1613672]

>>1610739
>>Only three representations hailing from Africa.
Your geography sucks
or you can't count

[Anonymous No.1613761]

>>1610964
>#rekt
>#buttblasted
>#anally pained
>#rectally devastated
>#tearful fap before bedtime
>#muh stormfront privilege
>#die cis scum

[OP No.1613913]

>>1610964
>>1610861
fuck you, I just wanted to learn something to make my art more interesting. If you want your pics (as if) to be populated solely by long-nosed, beady-eyed white people, pls go ahead. But fuck off while your doing it.