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[Anonymous No.1602037]

Draw Thread!

Previous Thread: >>1598835

Post your current drawing here and give constructive critiques to others!
Please make sure your posted image is clear and is under 1500 x 1500 pixels in size.
If you want critique on a drawing from the previous thread, you can delete it there and repost in this one.

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[Anonymous No.1602040]

postan again for new thread

[Anonymous No.1602042]

[Anonymous No.1602043]

Drew this for someone on /tg/.

[Anonymous No.1602044]

>>1602043
pic related as well. Is there hope for me /ic/?

>>1602042
Not sure what you're going for but I'd recommend some musculature

[Anonymous No.1602045]

>>1602044
forgot pic

[Anonymous No.1602050]

>>1602037
What program did you use?

[Anonymous No.1602055]

>>1602050
not OP but it's probably photoshop

[Anonymous No.1602056]

>>1602050
>>1602055
Yup

[Anonymous No.1602099]

[Anonymous No.1602122]

test

[Anonymous No.1602163]

>>1602037
Gief tumblr/sketchbook plx?!

[Anonymous No.1602169]

>>1602042
The folds in her clothing show you don't know how they work. You can do some studies and try to fix it later. Also, the pose feels stiff.

>>1602043
>>1602045
>Is there hope for me /ic/?
There's hope for everybody, as long as you work hard and smart. Focus on your lines. They need more confidence.

>>1602099
Reminds me of John K. If you're trying to make him look like he's having abdominal fat, you might have to redraw the stomach area. Right now it just looks like he's wearing a loose fitting shirt. At least to me.

[Anonymous No.1602185]

>>1602037
painted my friends bong.

[Anonymous No.1602186]

>oh boy oh boy lets give photoshop a try
>oh boy oh boy lets go back to studies...

[Anonymous No.1602187]

>>1602169
Pencil for reference.

I'm coloring these on a trackpad on my laptop, hoping to get a tablet someday

[Anonymous No.1602191]

>>1602186
Legs are kinda noodley in the bottom there. As are some other parts. I'd also suggest you have the hair flow behind her, unless she's falling down on her side and not swinging forward.

[Anonymous No.1602196]

Sexy zombie maid was my prompt

[Anonymous No.1602197]

>>1602191
good point.
thank you, I forget things like that a lot.

[Anonymous No.1602201]

>>1602187
Heh, that would explain the wobbliness of the lines. Do you have a scanner? If you want an outline, how about trying to ink the old fashioned way and then scan the image? Or save enough money to buy a tablet (you can't ctrl+z in real life anyway)

Other than that... keep going, have fun, study some anatomy (life drawing and what not) and read about colours and light.

[Anonymous No.1602213]

>>1602201
I need to buy a sharpie and do that, that's how I got my older ones done.

Pic related

[Anonymous No.1602214]

>>1602196
Breasteses are somewhat two dimensional and the further away one is bigger. Unless you were going for a neo-cubism thing.

[Anonymous No.1602220]

>>1602213
Use a thicker paper. Thick and kinda glossy, like paper for printing photos. The lines are bleeding like crazy in that image.

[Anonymous No.1602224]

>>1602220
That would be because it was done in pencil and I used the cartoon filter to get black lines. Will get real materials today.

[Anonymous No.1602225]

>>1602040
Inconsistent lighting/shading. The face looks muddy, and the fabric could use re-doing. You'd expect to see some shine or reflection on the helmet, surely? Quite nice and clean otherwise.

>>1602042
This young lady's giving out mixed signals. Ho ho.

>>1602043
Draw hands properly, lazybones.

>>1602185
420 BLAZE IT ERRYDAY FGT

>>1602213
Yup, that's enough /ic/ for me today.

[Anonymous No.1602235]

Working just with hard round for most of this, seeing as I had to use gimp on university PCs.

Thinking of widening the canvas a bit, and maybe also increasing the height so I have room to put a stag some place.

[Anonymous No.1602289]

lil study, how's my values?

[Anonymous No.1602293]

>>1602163
Don't have one yet..

[Anonymous No.1602295]

>>1602293
make a tumblr now and post link plox

[Anonymous No.1602340]

rushed it, not sure if i should go back some steps or start over

anything that looks blatantly fucked?

[Anonymous No.1602344]

How would you go about making it look like the stone is actually touching the ground? (the ground is a little sandy)

And i know the lighting on the stone is still pretty bogus, don't mind that for now. Just how would i go about creating a good illusion of contact here?
general tips are welcome too

[Anonymous No.1602346]

>>1602344
pic related: the problem

[Anonymous No.1602351]

How's my composition?
Is the Helipad thing distracting?
Is the background distracting?

[Anonymous No.1602358]

>>1602344
>>1602346
I'm no expert, but I think you need to check that shadow shape

[Anonymous No.1602364]

i feel that i have in proved but the problem is when im coloring i have no idea what i do im just trying to make it look cool or something

[Anonymous No.1602370]

>>1602351
Yes, the background is very distracting.

[Anonymous No.1602371]

>>1602351
I'd like the canvas to be slightly longer, to give more room for the city. It's somewhat balanced, but I think it'd look even better with more city.

[Anonymous No.1602368]

>>1602364

[Anonymous No.1602385]

study time

>>1602235
this is fucking awesome so far, love the colors.

[Anonymous No.1602394]

>>1602186
cool studies youre doing. but i suggest you make a full body construction before you start putting in actual masses. (like, draw a stick figure first, thatll help with more accurate construction.) her poses are all quite leg-heavy..

[Anonymous No.1602397]

>>1602346
this rock looks cool, you have actually inspired me

[Anonymous No.1602400]

>>1602351

i think compositionally it's actually fairly good. there is some interesting diagonals suggesting movement and the contrasty value massing works. honestly composition is very good imo.

you see alot of thematically similar images, rendered much much better that have a way worse composition. so yeah imo you did everything right in that aspect. im serious.

background isn't distracting, it's interesting. it works. i'm starting to blabber.

[Anonymous No.1602405]

>>1602340
it looks amazing

[Anonymous No.1602408]

>>1602235
Love this.

>>1602346
Push it down in the sand. If you want it too look like it's been there for a long time the sand should probably be covering more of the base.

[Anonymous No.1602412]

>>1602405
thanks, tried fixing it but I'm just gonna start over at this point

[Anonymous No.1602414]

See anything I can do to make this better before I go whole hog and start the actual painting part?

[Anonymous No.1602417]

>>1602412
too much red, try having the upfacing planes be a little bluer or something.

[Anonymous No.1602434]

colored it

[Anonymous No.1602439]

>>1602346
Ambient occlusion.

[Anonymous No.1602442]

>>1602434
This picture turns me on a bit

[Anonymous No.1602445]

>>1602196
Where do you get your prompts?

[Anonymous No.1602449]

reposting this, because nobody said anything about it last thread (probably because it was almost the last post in the thread, natch)

[Anonymous No.1602453]

>>1602449
more likely because it is an incoherent mess.

[Anonymous No.1602454]

>>1602417
bluer top planes wouldn't make much sense, tried desaturating the armor and bottom planes

better or worse?

[Anonymous No.1602455]

>>1602454
woops

[Anonymous No.1602463]

i'm still to slow :( and now i even start drawing spines and blocks what the hell?

[Anonymous No.1602464]

>>1602442
I guess that means its working

furrybux here I come

[Anonymous No.1602465]

>>1602449
I like it

[Anonymous No.1602470]

>>1602463
I wouldn't worry about being slow. I don't think gestures help much anyways. It looks like your starting to understand form though, keep it up, but make sure to think about the underlying bone & muscle structure rather than just the contours.

[Anonymous No.1602474]

>>1602455
Wayy better.
I'm gonna try and edit the colours it a bit, I'll see if something good comes out

[Anonymous No.1602477]

>>1602385
finished

[Anonymous No.1602478]

>>1602037

Cave, started as a doodle, may make it a whole painting. How's it looking?

[Anonymous No.1602479]

>>1602050
>pleb questions 101
Ask him what brushes he uses next cuz we all know technology will improve your nonexistant art skills.

[Anonymous No.1602483]

>>1602474
Here's what I came up with anyway.

[Anonymous No.1602485]

>>1602477
Looks rad.

[Anonymous No.1602486]

>>1602477
Bit low on contrast maybe

[Anonymous No.1602494]

>>1602478
I think the grounds should be even. At least that's how I'd imagine a cave.

[Anonymous No.1602498]

>>1602478
looks more like a hole in the ground, which isn't a bad thing

[Anonymous No.1602501]

>>1602498
>>1602494

Flatter floor, noted.

[Anonymous No.1602503]

>>1602414
pls fix his neck
it's scary

[Anonymous No.1602507]

>>1602408
well damn, that's a solution. i was too obsessed with having a freshly placed rock throwing a shadow i guess.
but still, since it's a mock piece, i'm still curious about how to make it look like i initially wanted. (hurray problemsolving...)

>>1602439
so occlusion shadows?
i tried making it darker but it still doesn't look right. i have the feeling that i need to think bigger, redo a lot, but i'm not sure how.

[Anonymous No.1602518]

I drew this >>1602351 Thanks for the advice guys.
This is just a piece before going to bed.

I downloaded perspective grid templates and since I have them at 30% opacity behind all the things I draw I feel much more secure

[Anonymous No.1602541]

Gave myself a 30 minute timer, I'm only a beginner and haven't drawn for a month so I'm kinda wobbly at the moment.

[Anonymous No.1602568]

just finished this one, c&c please

[Anonymous No.1602572]

just finished this one c&c please

[Anonymous No.1602583]

>>1602572
10/10

[Anonymous No.1602585]

first time using woodless graphite

What is a good way to sharpen these things?

[Anonymous No.1602591]

>>1602585
you don't, use just lightly remove the plastic covering and use every bits of it

[Anonymous No.1602594]

>>1602585
you don't, just lightly remove the plastic covering and use every bits of it

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.1602596]

>>1602572
saved

[Anonymous No.1602597]

>>1602453

your mom

[Anonymous No.1602600]

Working my way through Loomis' Fun With A Pencil

How am I doing so far?

[Anonymous No.1602601]

scribbly character development
kinda

[Anonymous No.1602610]

>>1602600
You just fucking started

Come back after a few months of practising and ask again

[Anonymous No.1602613]

flatter floor,added a sort of entrance at the bottom.

[Anonymous No.1602634]

>>1602585
Fresh, crisp 10/10

[Anonymous No.1602635]

>>1602585
Sandpaper or emery board

[Anonymous No.1602689]

WIP, lizard cultist guy.

[Anonymous No.1602704]

>>1602689
He looks like his skull is asymmetric.

[Anonymous No.1602779]

Yeah, I wanted to show a bit of his other eye but I it wasn't working.

[Anonymous No.1602781]

A fairly quick sketch. Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.1602792]

loosely used a reference. just search samurai in google images

tried to replicate Dave Rapoza's style and failed horribly

[Anonymous No.1602809]

>>1602792
It's very flat

[Anonymous No.1602832]

>>1602572
please make one with morethan 2 (?) frames.
maybe go for 8 or 16.

Looks great though, absolutely top notch apart from the ump rain (which would probably look fine if it wasn't for the splashes on the ground)

[Anonymous No.1602836]

Hey, what's a good pen to use as pigment when watercoloring in a sketchbook?

[Anonymous No.1602840]

>>1602836
any pen used for markers, like a copic or prismacolour fineliner

[Anonymous No.1602844]

>>1602601

im jelly of your effortlessly making chicks look sexy

[Anonymous No.1602847]

Any tips on how to draw a portrait using lines? Like when should i apply thicker lines or when should I go light?

[Anonymous No.1602849]

Which pen works best to draw lines in photoshop
I'm not really familiar with this program

[Anonymous No.1602852]

>>1602832
I second this. It looks excellent but the alternating rain splashes are jarring.

[Anonymous No.1602854]

>>1602847
I'm a retard, so take this with a pinch of salt.

Generally you want thicker lines for outlines and also to differentiate things in the foreground, so say your chick was pointing at the viewer, you'd outline her hand to make it "pop" from the body.

If you're going for a ligne claire kind of style with consistent line width just one or two fineliners should do. However you could also also look into pens that give variable thickness lines to enable you to do a more painterly kind of linework, using lost-and-found outlines to suggest highlights and so on. Possibly a good-quality marker or brush-pen could do this, but I'm no expert.

[Anonymous No.1602865]

>>1602847
Rarely did lineart so I don't know much about it. I looked up some Rapunzel sketches though and studied them for a bit.
It looks like thicker lines for parts that should be in focus more, I don't know.

[Anonymous No.1602868]

>>1602865
It's better, but I still wouldn't say it's a good use of line weight.

[Anonymous No.1602870]

>>1602572
this is great!

can you link your tumblr here please?

[Anonymous No.1602895]

What are some things I can do to make this look less stupid?

[Anonymous No.1602902]

>>1602781
>that hand is terrible
your art student snobness shows. very typical of /ic/ though. even the stiff pose forced pose that art models usually take.

[Anonymous No.1602934]

I does one go about tightening this up? I always stop at this point in every drawing because I don't know what else to do with it.

[Anonymous No.1602937]

>>1602934
How does one*
jesus wtf did I type

[Dune !!vQzb8NfaT1N No.1602939]

>>1602895
It doesn't look bad to me, but I wouldn't imagine it's even remotely comfortable. That handle looks painful, and the stock reminds me of something from Nerf. The foregrip being that low also bothers me a little but I'm not sure if that's necessarily an issue.

[Anonymous No.1602942]

daily paint

[Dune !!vQzb8NfaT1N No.1602946]

>>1602939
Grip*. Handle? I need more coffee.

[Anonymous No.1602947]

>>1602934
Set proper light sources, show the shapes to us, Make it interesting, add multiple light sources if it's exciting.

Paint the actual shape of everything, not just a slightly detailed silhouette. The belt is just a line, not an actual rendered shape.

[Anonymous No.1602948]

[Anonymous No.1602970]

>>1602948
dat Agnes :3

[Anonymous No.1602977]

>>1602942
this bugged me to ask, how long can you throw a golf ball until it escapes the atmosphere? the answer was no. nice concept btw.

[Anonymous No.1603012]

>>1602942
I don't get it.

[Anonymous No.1603014]

Trying to understand values. How do I do so far?

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.1603017]

>>1603014
For a start you should probably practicing from observation not out of your imagination at this point. people like to use sculptures to study tone and value, I'm guessing because it is uniform in colour and texture but has complex shapes, but you could even start out doing simple spheres and cubes.

[Anonymous No.1603019]

>>1602948
>portrait
>draws half the face

nice one anon

[Anonymous No.1603020]

>>1603014
missing core shadow, since it looks like you have a light source on the back as well. looks like a flat gradient

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.1603024]

>>1602518
looks funny when the vehicle is traveling to the right (off of the edge of the canvas which feels unnatural) imo you should have the vehicle traveling the the left.

[Anonymous No.1603023]

>>1603012
>Space slave

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.1603025]

>>1602781
I like it, it's very generic for the style you're obviously going for but it's cool.

With these kind of drawings imo it only really works if you have great composition and lots of detail going on, it's not really a style that works with having one character standing in a funny pose with not a lot else happening.

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.1603027]

>>1602895
I think it looks pretty nice but yeah the stock looks kind of retarded, it looks like a sci-fi war-hammer. perspective seems a little bit off too but I guess for the purpose of illustrating a design it's fine.

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.1603030]

>>1603019
b-but mouths and noses and ears are hard.

[Anonymous No.1603033]

Whoa, 4chan blocked my country just now. What happened I wonder.

>>1603017
Thanks, It's hard to find those kind of sculptures around here. I'll start from the cubes and spheres I guess.

>>1603020
I assume core shadow is an area where light can't reach the object at all? as in completely black?

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.1603035]

>>1603033
You don't actually need to find a physical sculpture you can find them online and use them. I would advise starting from basic forms though so you're doing the right thing.

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.1603036]

>>1603033
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=core+shadow&oq=core+shadow&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8

[Anonymous No.1603072]

Did this today, I need more practice with just about everything.

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.1603088]

How is this looking so far? I know design wise it's pretty bad I'm just trying to put myself out of my comfort zone a bit.

[Anonymous No.1603097]

>>1603088
Look into rule of thirds, Diagonalds, Overlapping and contrast.

http://www.autodestruct.com/thumbwar.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1McYZX6KScg&list=PL647C41ACF49C999D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDmUxwtN6Tk

Best of luck

[Dune !!vQzb8NfaT1N No.1603098]

>>1603072
Looks good anon, I like it. If I were to add anything, I'd say keep the light source in mind a little more carefully, and play around with transparency. You could give the eyes a really cool effect, and the skin and lips as well, if you could get them to read as semi-transparent.

Also some controlled variety in edges might help. Hide some things with a bit of a blurred edge or less detail but make some that you want to be important really sharp.

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.1603100]

>>1603097
Thanks, I knew it was kind of symmetrical, I'm probably going to try something a little more ambitious next think I work on, thanks for the links.

[Anonymous No.1603106]

>>1603098
Thanks, I'm really goddamn tired at the moment so I'll probably leave it till tommorow.

[Anonymous No.1603108]

So do I just roughly put in the values and then blur and watercolor? I'm kind of clueless.
This is an attempt at painting.

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.1603112]

>>1603100
finishing this now
(not calling it done but I'm not working on it anymore.)

[Anonymous No.1603113]

Drew this for a /tg/ anon. Like to think my lines are getting better now that I'm using a pen.

[Anonymous No.1603120]

>>1603113
I wouldn't use that type of brush for lines, use just the basic round brush for lines. It can make it look quite untidy, also practice anatomy of humans before you start going into dragon people.

[Anonymous No.1603127]

>>1603120
I meant I'm using a literal pen and taking a picture with my phone to edit. I'd do that if I had anything other than a laptop trackpad.

Which part of the anatomy is the worst?

[Anonymous No.1603136]

>>1603127
1 - Literally all of it is shit
2 - If all you have to work with is a trackpad + a camera phone, you should stick to just working in pen + pencil
3 - You need to go do some studies to understand what a line is supposed to represent in a drawing
4 - Yes, I'm mad.

[Anonymous No.1603137]

>>1603112
Awesome anon. there maybe a few perspective issues but pls keep going. im looking forward to the finish

[Anonymous No.1603142]

>>1603136
What's your opinion on something like >pic related?

Obviously it isn't by me, I'm just wondering if we have different goals. I personally think the chests are a bit high but other than that I have no real complaints.

[Anonymous No.1603144]

>>1603142

Forgot spoilers don't work on red boards.

[Anonymous No.1603145]

>>1603142
You think I'm critiquing your design or "style", but I'm not. Our "goals" have nothing to do with it. You're just technically shit.

[Anonymous No.1603146]

>>1603142
you have shit taste, congrats. so of course your sperggy goals will be slightly different. If you want to draw shitty anatomy then go for it. This website is 18+ btw.

[Anonymous No.1603147]

>>1603145
I'm aware that I need a lot of work. I'm trying to figure out where I'm going wrong but "ur a shit" isn't really getting me anywhere.

[Anonymous No.1603148]

>>1603147
2 - If all you have to work with is a trackpad + a camera phone, you should stick to just working in pen + pencil
3 - You need to go do some studies to understand what a line is supposed to represent in a drawing

>HURR IM LITERALLY RETARDED

[Anonymous No.1603149]

>>1603146
> Shit taste
In any other setting than this I'd be inclined to ignore you for that phrase as though it weren't your opinion, but I'm trying to improve so what do you mean

[Anonymous No.1603150]

>>1603144
Did them wrong anyway.

[Anonymous No.1603151]

>>1603148
I should specify that I meant the anatomy part. Those other parts I got.

[Anonymous No.1603152]

>>1603150
No I didn't. That's how you greentext mid-line.

[Anonymous No.1603153]

>>1603151
What anatomy part? When did I critique your anatomy?

[Anonymous No.1603154]

>>1603153
Assumed you were
>>1603120

Are you saying the anatomy isn't bad? If it is which part?

[Anonymous No.1603159]

tried to draw a friend

[Anonymous No.1603160]

>>1603159
at least you tried

[Anonymous No.1603165]

>>1603159
I'd work on shading it.

>>1603160
Lot of assholes on /ic/, not sure where it comes from

[Anonymous No.1603167]

>>1603165
He may be an asshole, but both of your comments are fucking useless.

But at least you tried.

[Anonymous No.1603171]

>>1603165
>Lot of assholes on /ic/, not sure where it comes from
people on /ic/ are assholes to me, so i'm an asshole to /ic/

[Anonymous No.1603172]

>>1603171
How old are you?

[Anonymous No.1603180]

>>1603165
Because every fucking day we have faggots flooding in that don't even bother with reading the sticky asking for critiques on their shit that is so fundamentally flawed there is nothing to critique.

[Anonymous No.1603189]

>>1603159
your friend looks cute, what are you doing anon?

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.1603215]

>>1603137
I appreciate the kind words, I won't be finishing it though.

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.1603222]

>>1603142
If this is your goal then just do whatever you want and don't listen to /ic/ at all, go find some weird fetish forum and have them critique your work.

[Anonymous No.1603241]

I enjoy difficult perspectives, but I'm not sure if:
A. The hand is blurred/impressionistic enough
B. His face is focused enough.
I know I need to add skin texture, but any tips? I'm fairly new to the digitizer game.

[Anonymous No.1603247]

trying to design a jester, so I pulled faces in front of my mirror.
I am going more for a dramatic/sad jester fate. the classic figure, like you see in velazquez' pictures.
a drunk, depressed, intelligent man, who needs to entertain the court

any tips for refs?

[Anonymous No.1603249]

>>1603247
goddammit I forgot the image!

[Anonymous No.1603258]

From Life

[Anonymous No.1603261]

>>1603258

i like it!

[Anonymous No.1603259]

>>1602479
Why simple questions bother you?

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.1603268]

>>1603259
His point was that his painting doesn't look the way it does becusae of his programme, but because of lots of hard work, practice and observation.

[Anonymous No.1603271]

>>1603268
Ah, I see. What a nice excuse to be rude to someone.

[Anonymous No.1603272]

>>1603271
Is this your first time on 4chan? People in here will insult you at every chance they have, so you better prepare your anus

[Anonymous No.1603274]

>>1603271
Are you new?

[Anonymous No.1603285]

>>1603258
this is very nice, im guessing you are at an atelier?

blog?

[Anonymous No.1603319]

>>1603258
Not quite an atelier but I do attend school (I really don't know if I'm a huge fan of that kind of program to be honest).

[Anonymous No.1603320]

>>1603319
Derp forgot the link to my tumblr
http://zach-nien.tumblr.com/

[Anonymous No.1603348]

help me improve?

[Anonymous No.1603350]

I want to be the master of faces. i have a lot of studying to do.

[Anonymous No.1603354]

>>1603348
Define the form of her right eye better. Tighten up your edges. Otherwise looks pretty good.

[Anonymous No.1603367]

ty, anon.
I'll work on that

[Anonymous No.1603370]

>>1603350
these look great, nice caricature. im a fan.

[Anonymous No.1603389]

First time ever drawing. How does it look?

[Anonymous No.1603398]

>>1603389
Like it's not actually your first time drawing.

[Anonymous No.1603399]

>>1603389
>First time ever drawing. How does it look?
>He draw better than me
I guess I should give up.

[Anonymous No.1603418]

help me /ic/

[Anonymous No.1603422]

You people told me to pick a specific fetish to draw so I can get commissions...I picked loli,
Just trying to get a proportion that feels right.

[Anonymous No.1603442]

Heres some quick character sketches I did on one layer. Critique please!

[Anonymous No.1603447]

>>1603422
I'd say that the legs are a just a smidge too long, but then again I'm no connoisseur of loli.

[Anonymous No.1603448]

>>1603422
Legs should be shorter, also what's up with that pelvis - I think it's too wide.

[Anonymous No.1603450]

JORDAN???

[Anonymous No.1603452]

>>1603422
>>1603448
Check them head profiles.
And I like the slightly wide pelvis.

[Anonymous No.1603454]

>>1603399
You really should.

[Anonymous No.1603456]

>>1603418
What's wrong with his nose?

[Anonymous No.1603458]

>>1603389
Just curious, how old are you?

[Anonymous No.1603460]

>>1603450
who was that for

[Anonymous No.1603463]

>>1603460
Jordan.

[Anonymous No.1603464]

>>1603463
oh of course

[Anonymous No.1603466]

>>1603460
Jordan from SLCC

[Conmana No.1603488]

Speedy sketch

Boring to say the least. I can't convey the image in my head at all. Once I get this foreshortening business understood im hoping I'll be able to convey the images in my head

Also minimizing brush strokes
Push value from there // Or Value sooner
problems hey ho

[Anonymous No.1603530]

>>1602037
>pandemoniumart.net/brushes/

Website doesnt work for me.

[Anonymous No.1603541]

>>1603458
Of course I am exactly the same age as the allowed age on this website.

[Anonymous No.1603548]

Any ideas how I can improve this piece?

[Anonymous No.1603553]

>>1603541
There is no age requirement on this site. Only in the NSFW sections.

[Anonymous No.1603555]

>>1603553
How about you double check the rules. 2nd one especially.

[Anonymous No.1603559]

>>1603555
it's pretty pointless though to enforce this rule nazi-style when that guy is clearly mature enough and not troubling anyone.

>>1603548
make up your mind on where the light is coming from. more generally speaking, do value studies and learn some basic anatomy. i like the idea of a russian orthodox war priest character. keep it up

[Anonymous No.1603560]

>>1603389
Another.

Random squiggly lines make a awesome fur texture, but when I can't make cloth look good or leather look good.

I think the metal surface looks fine though... right? (the two huge tubes on his back

[Anonymous No.1603563]

>>1603562
fair enuff

[Anonymous No.1603562]

>>1603559
I was not debating anons age, just informing about the false statement

Also Im pretty sure anon who asked his age, was inquiring for other purposes and not to expell him from the website.

[Anonymous No.1603571]

>>1603348
Those values sure are flat, despite the filename. Nice, but poosh ze values.

[Anonymous No.1603574]

>>1603418
See, this is the kind of thing that's impossible to critique, because every flaw could be defended as a stylistic choice.

Start with the basics and realism.

[Anonymous No.1603606]

Doodling

[Anonymous No.1603617]

>>1603222
Thanks. Never been to /ic/ before and wasn't aware of the standard here. I'll find somewhere more appropriate; my goal was more "fappable" than "actually good".

[Anonymous No.1603637]

>>1603348
From reference or imagination? If you have the ref you should post it because it'll be easier to identify what you're having problems seeing; if it's from imagination. . . Get a reference.
Here's a quick paintover to show you how you could improve a bit. I think it's mostly just value problems albeit some anatomy issues. Don't focus on the specifics of eyeball, nostril, eyebrow, etc. Focus on values and edges. As far as anatomy issues go I'm sure there are better anatomy gurus on /ic/ than myself and they could easily chime in.

I think an exercise that might help you is to do a simple painting in black and white. Just straight black and straight white in order to help simplify your values.

[Anonymous No.1603643]

I'm having some problems with the colors.
Also, rate.

[Anonymous No.1603649]

Sup /ic/. Can i get some opinion about perspective/horizon placement and anatomy, before i move on?

[Anonymous No.1603654]

>>1603643
would fap to out of 10.

[Anonymous No.1603702]

>>1602037
trying to get moree into vehicles and enironments...

30 min doodle i kind of like it. especially the top building

[Anonymous No.1603705]

>>1603654
I second that motion.

[Anonymous No.1603707]

>>1603023
Oh, I see. Ahahah, that's good. Really clever.

[spoiler]I still don't get it[can't spoiler on /ic/]

[Anonymous No.1603717]

>>1602351
the ship is going into that hallway and we follow its path and theres nothing to look at, we are just rammed right into the edge of the canvas

when i first looked at this picture i didnt even see the city or the helipad or anything. i saw the ship, this extremely fuckbright hallway, and my eyes exited the canvas and i stopped looking at the picture.

move that whole ship and hallway combo over to the left side of the canvas, then give the ship something to actually go towards, and put the city around it to SUPPORT IT. no inch of a canvas should be superfluous, everything should be supporting the whole.

right now 2/3rds of the canvas is superfluous and is completely ignored

[Anonymous No.1603719]

>>1603717
Not anon but out of interest, what if the ship was exiting the hallway, would the viewer gravitate twords the left? Would the composition make more ense for an exiting vehicle, guiding the eyes to the left?

[Anonymous No.1603724]

[Anonymous No.1603726]

>>1603719
Yes, IF he would have made the hallway not as bright. Because now it's literally white on a black background.

[Anonymous No.1603731]

>>1603488
Hnngh it's you again

When you die can I get your brain so I can get the processing power to imagine scenes in my head

[Anonymous No.1603734]

>>1603731
But it's just an armored guy sitting on a chair.

Also he's like, 18, so you will probably die sooner.

[Anonymous No.1603743]

>>1603734
I can't picture a guy sitting on a chair to that extent in whole in my head. Maybe my brain just sucks? Regardless I want his brains

[Anonymous No.1603746]

>>1603743
Do more gesture and armor studies and you will be able to.

Never give up anon~

[Anonymous No.1603784]

commissioned portrait
the chick wants it printed on 60x60cm canvas
got reference photo that is 458x458 pixels instagram quality

t-thanks

[Anonymous No.1603791]

>>1603784
is it a portrait of her tits and chin? Joking afcourse, not an expert, is that what kind of reference she gave, with the head chopped off?

[Anonymous No.1603793]

>>1603791
yup

[Anonymous No.1603799]

>>1603793
Oh man, feel sorry for you. Maybe ask her to send a picture of the rest of her head. Did she ask to paint exactly the same thing as in the picture or was that just the facial feature guide? I dont know how these things work. If you decreased the size of the chick in the canvas, you could fit in an improvised top of the head though.

[Anonymous No.1603808]

>>1603793
What's her number yo?

[Anonymous No.1603810]

Your a fool for photocopying the image yawn
Your a fool for not painting her from life, in person, naked.

Stay stupid /ic

[Anonymous No.1603813]

>>1603810
stay 12.

[Anonymous No.1603816]

>>1603810
> your

[Anonymous No.1603817]

>>1603810
I'm assuming that's aimed at me.
I don't actually know the girl in the picture, but i know her friend and she asked me to paint the girl based off the picture she provided, it's supposed to be Christmas present or some shit.

[Anonymous No.1603818]

>>1603816
Oldest troll in the book, welcome to 4chan.

[Anonymous No.1603820]

>>1603784
>>1603793
In situations like this, it's best to get multiple reference photos of the model, from different lighting and different vantage points. You need to be able to piece together what she looks like with minimal distortion from the camera lens. Multiple references would also allow you to create something that is unique, and not derivative of a single photograph.

That's just my thoughts on the matter though. If you're comfortable turning a suboptimal photograph into a painting, and that's what the client wants, then so be it.

[Anonymous No.1603822]

>>1603816
Welcome to 4chan

[Anonymous No.1603825]

>>1603784
>>1603820
Oh, and I'm not trying to sound dickish or anything - just to be clear.

[Anonymous No.1603831]

>>1603825
I didn't think you were.

And yeah, i'll ask my friend to send more photos of her to me. But honestly, i don't think she cares if it has any crativity in it, only that it looks like her.

[Anonymous No.1603832]

>>1603746
Even if I know the subject matter of whatever I want to draw in and out I can't fabricate it clearly enough in my mind to be able to figure if it makes any sense at all what I'm trying to convey. A messy sentence but I don't know how to say it better

[Anonymous No.1603840]

spent about 40 min doing another plein air painting. however i forgot to save :(

Here is a screen grab however. i think it came out a lot better than my previous attempts at plein air.

i need to do more from different places. my front porch view is getting a bit boring.

[Anonymous No.1603849]

>>1603817
>>1603726
Another question. Im sorta using anons issue as a practice for myself, since i have composition planing issues and tend to lose focus on the pictures prioritys alot.

Now please bear with me, this might be some basic stuff im missing.

Would you say that anon is indecisive whether he wants to show the ship, the hangar or the city? Like its everything at once. Im trying to follow your suggestion of moving everything to the right, while keeping the angle and aproximate sizes, and i dont think its possible to show the same scene if you switch it to the left. As in both the city, the hangar and the ship. Youd have to either sacrifice the elaborate city view or the closeup of the ship and the hangar bay. Now either my imaginations is completely tense and cannot think outside of the box, or you have to switch perspectives on something and choose prioritys. Im really at a loss here.

The best i could come up with with all of them is this. But the building is from a diffrent perspective though. I notice i run into such issues a lot and would like to narrow down what is the issue. Is it the poor prioritising of what i want to show ( and i have to come to terms that i cant show everything and have to make sacrifices) or am is my spacial imagination so poor that im just bad at solving compositional puzzles. I hope any of this makes sense.

[Anonymous No.1603854]

>>1603849
Fuck wrong quote meant >>1603717 and move to the left not to the right. Sorry kinda tired.

[Anonymous No.1603855]

>>1602870

thanks!, its andabatae.tumblr.com

also thanks for the recommendations, im gonna fix it right now.

[Anonymous No.1603894]

i call it finished
where can i improve?

also, would you buy a book illustrated like that?

[Anonymous No.1603901]

>>1603894
any thoughts on the princess concept for it?

[Anonymous No.1603907]

>>1603901

something something

[Anonymous No.1603911]

>>1603901
needs a little more Loomis

[Anonymous No.1603912]

>>1603901
needs more bougerau

[Anonymous No.1603914]

>>1603911

>>1603911

fucking hive mind mate

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.1603926]

>>1603832
This is common, the more you study and understand things visually the more accurate your minds eye will be and you'll be able to visualise things more as an actual composition on a canvas rather than a vague idea of what would look kind of cool.

It's hard but don't lose hope.

[Anonymous No.1603941]

>>1602037
how many images / post before a thread like this dies? what is the limit?

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.1603942]

>>1603941
usually about 350 I think, the drawthreads seem to lose steam on their own though before reaching bump limit and someone will make a new one.

[Anonymous No.1603966]

>>1603941
>>1603942
It stops bumping shortly before 300. Don't know the exact number.

[Anonymous No.1603965]

>>1603926
I'm a bit lost how to approach drawing in general. I want to draw some characters but I don't know how to paint or draw from imagination so I just do photo studies and try to figure out other peoples styles. Hoping that some day it'll click and painting will just happen

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.1603970]

>>1603965
Nope, you need to study the fundamentals before anything, I started out doing a load of painting studies because I thought that was just what I should be doing, I was wrong. Doing that will make you pretty good at copying but liek you said you will have trouble doing anything from imagination because you won't know where to start.

Start out with gesture, anatomy, value, anatomy etc. the basic stuff. I would go into more detail but I'm about to go to sleep. The important thing though is to start with the fundamentals and don't be impatient.

[Anonymous No.1603971]

>>1603965
>I don't know how to paint or draw from imagination so I just do photo studies and try to figure out other peoples styles. Hoping that some day it'll click and painting will just happen
Why don't you do something in between? Find a reference and apply it in a novel way. Draw the fire hydrant down the street, but instead turn it into armor, or a robot, or a building. Find a bird and make it an amphibian. Look up to the clouds and draw what images appear to you.

If you don't practice creativity and invention, you'll never get better at it. To make sure you're actually adding to your visual library, try to draw/paint from imagination what you recently did a study of.

[Anonymous No.1603993]

>>1603840

Second attempt today at plein air. much harder when the sun is setting vs afternoon.

the perspective got fucked as it is an awkward corner of the field.

[Anonymous No.1603994]

>>1603840

>Second attempt today at plein air. much harder when the sun is setting vs afternoon.

>the perspective got fucked as it is an awkward corner of the field.

[Anonymous No.1603995]

>>1603994
Use more opaque brushes.

[Anonymous No.1604001]

not sure if im putting another light source in that stick, or maybe hang a lantern on his belt. Dunno crits welcomed !

[Anonymous No.1604007]

>>1603901

[Anonymous No.1604017]

>>1602037
i wish i had talent like this. you guys are great.

[Anonymous No.1604026]

>>1603995
thanks, yeah i was thinking that as well these got really muddy compared to the initial block in.

however i couldn't find a single opaque brush in the brush back i had recently downloaded.

turns out you just have to un-tick the "transfer" button or adjust the settings in there.


Ill try again tomorrow if the weather permits it.

[Anonymous No.1604033]

>>1604017
You can too if you try

[Anonymous No.1604052]

been drawing for about a month, I know this has some anatomical fuck-ups but how does this look?

[Anonymous No.1604068]

>>1603560
Am I getting better or worse?

[Anonymous No.1604069]

>>1604068
>on my way to steal yo man

[GreyDeath No.1604096]

>>1604069

heh, Shelf-Ass. :D

She is kind of struttin'.

[Anonymous No.1604116]

>>1604026
If you find yourself going into your favorite brush and removing the transfer bit off of it all the time, remember that you can create a custom form of that brush to fit your needs. I trust you know how to make and save your own brushes, but if you don't, just google it. Takes like five seconds.

[Anonymous No.1604121]

I was watching a show about black holes, and didn't realize the bullshit I was making...

[Anonymous No.1604124]

Just something for the grandparents.

[Anonymous No.1604125]

>>1604121
i do that all the time anon.

something i did well watching soa last night.

[Anonymous No.1604153]

>>1603422
i don't think even pedos would commission this

[Anonymous No.1604156]

>>1603970
Basic stuff has gotten me nowhere so far. I got enough of the basics I feel and that's been the case for the longest time, I just don't know how to paint if I'm not doing it from a reference. I can construct things with lines and stuff and make okay-ish drawings but painting, blocking in and using colors to create forms? Absolutely no idea how to approach the subject, hence I try to figure how others do it and maybe that helps me to find an approach that works for me

>>1603971
Still the same issue as above. The amphibian or whatever I have no idea how to paint. It's not that doing too much from a ref has killed my imagination or anything, my drawing from imagination skills are same as they always have been. I just haven't found a way to develop those whereas photo studies improve my observation skills at the very least so they are better than nothing

[Anonymous No.1604160]

>>1603637
Thanks, anon. No one has ever done a paintover for me before. I appreciate it.
I painted this w/ reference. Instead of just copying I tried to build the face through using values. I probably don't choose the best pictures to ref. :/ Gonna work on using darker tones

[Anonymous No.1604161]

>>1604156
Do you do any painting from life (particularly still lifes) or do you only do studies from photos? Do you do any master copies?

[Anonymous No.1604167]

>>1604161
I've done one piece from life and it was pretty awkward. I need a regular lamp and some easy subjects before I can do more. I asked about master studies but people told me that it's better to do life studies first. It was way different than photo studies, even though having done a lot of photo studies helped

The photo studies I've done have been b&w because I don't know much of anything about colors. I've read about color theory but I don't feel like I see colors correctly enough to use them myself so I've been focusing on values and angles

[Anonymous No.1604176]

thread for this died a while back but I'm still workin' on it

[Anonymous No.1604184]

Am I doing it right

[Anonymous No.1604186]

>>1604167
>I need a regular lamp and some easy subjects before I can do more.
You should do a lot more. Even painting without access to a dedicated lamp is better than not painting. If you're in a room with a single light source (or sunlight), that will suffice. You should be able to pick up a cheap desk lamp or stand lamp for $10 from target or amazon if you're in the US.

Painting from life will teach you critical thinking skills. Painting from a photo is too easy to enter autopilot and not really think about the values you're placing and why they have the qualities that they do.

I'm not trying to sound dickish, but you say you've gotten enough of the basics when at the same time you only have one life painting under your belt. Chances are you don't actually have as strong a grasp over the basics as you think you do. It's hard to say without seeing your work, but you likely don't have a strong enough grasp over perspective, forms, major planes, and light. When all of those are in place, painting from imagination should be much more approachable.

[Anonymous No.1604187]

>>1604184
>Am I doing it right
No. First, you should have the whole head in place before you start painting in features like the eyes. Second, it doesn't look like your drawing ability is up to the level needed to tackle painting.

[Anonymous No.1604190]

>>1604124
Another dog. Criticism welcome, as long as its not the "cut your balls off so you don't spread your worthless seed and pollute the gene pool" kind. Both are quick sketches (~20 min)

[Anonymous No.1604195]

>>1604186
Well I'm not aiming to be the best rembrandt or anything but for the scope I'm aiming I feel that my fundamentals are good enough. I can draw pretty much what I want and sketch it out sufficiently to make an okay drawing. Not a perfect one but fair enough for my goals. When it comes to painting I'm a total pleb and don't know what the fuck I'm supposed to be doing

My current lamp lits the room via dim reflected light from the roof so it's not very ideal for a beginner trying to get into life painting. Also I lack all the simple subject matters like apples and whatnot. Even the cutlery I got is some artsy twisted piece of metal. I'm not in US and I can barely afford my daily noodles but I think can figure this part out somehow. I feel the main issue is that I don't know how to approach the subject matter

Take this first one I made for example >>1599967
I started by blocking in the general shape of the table, then added shadow to the edge of it and blocked the shape of the extension cord thingy. Fiddled around with the colors and shadows for a few hours and then added the figurine on top, which turned out to be slightly smaller than intended and the whole piece is more light than in real life but that might be just my eyes getting used to the bright light from the screen.

I don't feel like my approach worked out too well as I can't really apply it to things with more complexity and smaller details. The angle between the cord and the table is off, nothing has texture and there's way too little contrast in general. I've been doing some drawings from imagination since then, still kinda hesitant to dip back into life drawing without the 'baby's first still life' setup with strong directional light and apples

Long post, I know

[Anonymous No.1604196]

>>1604190
I hate these fucking dogs. They have a retarded face. God damn he looks like a faggot.

[Anonymous No.1604202]

>>1604196
Thanks. I'm sure you're very popular. Also, I think I stated that I don't want to hear from people who give useless commentary.

[Anonymous No.1604203]

>>1604196
Thanks. I'm sure you're very popular. Also, I think I stated that I didn't want any useless commentary.

[shy No.1604204]

>>1604190
I don't know. Is its head okay? Is it symmetrical? Is it a head-on view of the dog because the nose doesn't seem to be in the middle between its eyes?

[Anonymous No.1604205]

>>1604204
Reference was slightly off of a straight on view. I may not have made that clear in the drawing if you arent seeing it. Thanks.

[shy No.1604206]

>>1604205
/ic/'s worst is happy to have been of help :D
Good night everyone.

[Anonymous No.1604217]

>>1604195
It seems like two things will help you the most: construction and light.

By construction, I'm referring to breaking down complex forms into simple forms, and building complex forms from simple forms. There's a few good videos on that from ctrlpaint:
http://ctrlpaint.com/videos/constructive-form-pt-1
http://ctrlpaint.com/videos/constructive-form-pt-1-5
http://ctrlpaint.com/videos/constructive-form-pt-2
I'd check out the rest of the videos in the library. Chances are Matt covered areas that you're having problems with, and potential solutions to those problems.

When you invent forms through a thorough construction, you'll have a stronger understanding of their major planes. The angle of the major planes with respect to the light source will play a large role in their value. If you don't know what values to use when painting, think about the 3D space of the scene you're envisioning.

Which leads me to light: It'll help you a lot to have a general grasp on how light works, so that you can make predictions of what forms should look like under various lighting conditions. Here's a great primer on light, and many other topics. It's short, easy to read, and densely packed with material:
http://androidarts.com/art_tut.htm

Knowledge of certain painting/drawing techniques would also help you. When painting an object (in front of you or from imagination), it's helpful to divide the object into 2 value masses: light and shadow. You would then refine the shadows so that it contains 2-3 values, and refine the lights so that it contains 2-3 values. Soften edges between value shapes as needed. These two links contain related demos, the first showing division of values, and the second showing opaque painting followed by selective edge softening (posts by bumskee):
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=135935
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=107217

[FiRez !!tndrCZJHE+I No.1604225]

>>1604202
For a moment I though it was a reference to pic related.

As for the drawing itself, it's nice, very sketchy but effective, however, I would like to see you trying another medium in order to take advantage of the toned paper.

[Anonymous No.1604250]

>>1604202
Wow you are so BOSS XDXDXDXDXD. SO ALPHAAAA~

[Anonymous No.1604280]

oil on corrugated paper separator thingy from delicious tin of christmas biscuits

:3

[Anonymous No.1604282]

>>1604250
I'm genuinely confused as to why you'd deliberately shit up a community you partake in. I mean, you don't shit in your food, right?

[Anonymous No.1604301]

>>1604280
Is that a painting or your palette? Anon, pls find something better to use your oils on.

[Anonymous No.1604304]

>>1604301
it's both

[Anonymous No.1604364]

So, i get this book, called "The anatomy" Richard Hamster Hampton(he is not a real hamster). So i get this book, and inside this book there are words and pictures. And, listen to me. This book is fucking awesome, i mean it really concentrate on antomy, how to draw stuff, why you need gesture and how to construct from gesture. I think this book, "The anatomy" Richard Hamster Hampton(he is not even a real hamster) even better then Loomis, because it's about real anatomy, with muscles, bone and fat and not about idealistic, non realistic outline of human body.

[Anonymous No.1604369]

>>1604364
Michael?

[Anonymous No.1604380]

>>1604369
Joel?

[Anonymous No.1604382]

Making some progress.

[Anonymous No.1604383]

>>1603849

1. You need to think out a path for the wiever to follow. Let's say its ship (first focal point) ---hallway---> something in the hallway(second focal point).

2. Yes, you have to sacrifice bringing viewers attention to the city. It's just a background and should give a hint, almost a subliminal message about the world your illustration is set in.

3.Now the path is like:

ship(a big focal point) -> hallway with thos arrows(eye spends very little time here, because there's almost nothing of interest) -> city(because it's bright)

You should also notice how after contemplating the ship your eye doesnt really know which direction to go in, but finally chooses to go to the hallway, because the ship isheading is in that direction.

4. How to make everything perfect:

- Add a detailed, high-contrast focal point in the hallway. Some fluorescent lamps sheding light on a group of scientists and vehicles should do.

- Use rythmic lines both on the ship and the background to lead the eye towards your second focal point. THe ship looks very static now, like if it's levitating.

-Your edge control is heavily fucked in places, but that's something to master.

-your blurred cityscape doesn't really read as a blurred cityscape.

[Anonymous No.1604387]

>>1604382
nice mate!

are you the guy who was getting tips like that lasso tool technique in tehmehs stream?

[Anonymous No.1604409]

>>1604364
That's part of the reason people like Loomis. You don't always need to concentrate on everything under the skin.

[Anonymous No.1604426]

>>1604387
Not me. I'd like to hear about that though.

[Anonymous No.1604427]

>>1604001
Oh god, my sides... The googly eyes... xXXDDDD

[Anonymous No.1604430]

dunno, man
just some fast harsh sketch
seems like this sketch somehow represents the mood I am often in lol

[Anonymous No.1604450]

another one
heh

[Anonymous No.1604489]

>>1604383
Thanks for answering, it was a quick sketch, but maybe too quick as you pointed out the importance of other details.

[Anonymous No.1604600]

>>1604382
Teach me how to paint like you.

[Anonymous No.1604719]

WIP

thoughts before I go forward?

I'm gonna color this with color pencil on drawing paper, this is just the first draft.

[Anonymous No.1604784]

an apple.

Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.1604858]

>>1604217
Thanks a lot for the guidance, will make sure to check these through when I have the proper time

[Anonymous No.1605291]

[Anonymous No.1606252]

>>1602037
Currenttly exercising on my values, i'd like to greatly improve the quality of my work.

Next exercice will be about posing, which i don't control well enought in my opinion.

WIP of course.