/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.1598327]

>/co/ discussing what they consider 'good art'

>>>/co/56465388

What does /ic/ consider good comic art?

[Anonymous No.1598330]

Rob Liefeld

[Anonymous No.1598337]

>>1598327
I was under the impression that /co, taken as a whole, had their good taste removed at birth.
These are the same people who praise Wonder Woman and other assorted crap.

[Anonymous No.1598339]

>>1598337
>muh taste best taste

[Anonymous No.1598340]

>>1598337
One of my favourite pastimes on /co/ is posting random pages from The Metabarons then watching them cream themselves over the artwork because half the posters there have never seen a comic made by someone who actually knows how to fucking draw.

>>1598330
I love /co/'s blind hate for Liefeld. They'll give a free pass to much worse and lazier artists but for some reason Liefeld's the devil.

[Anonymous No.1598342]

I like Alex Ross a lot.

[Anonymous No.1598345]

>>1598342
he can draw but as someone said on that shazam pic, it looks gay.

[Anonymous No.1598359]

>>1598342
Ross is basically Norman Rockwell as a comic book artist.

Easily one of the very best and honestly given how much the comic community complain about his work being 'static' or 'not comic-y enough' they don't deserve him.

[Anonymous No.1598360]

>>1598359
He's good, but he's no Rockwell.

[Anonymous No.1598372]

Marko Djurdjevic

[Anonymous No.1598373]

Alex Garner

[Anonymous No.1598374]

Esad Ribic

[Anonymous No.1598378]

Alex Maleev

Everything about this page is perfect.

[Anonymous No.1598386]

Dave McKean

[Anonymous No.1598389]

Stuart Immonen

[Anonymous No.1598395]

Paolo Rivera

Dat composition.

[Anonymous No.1598399]

Jerome Opena

I love this page.

[Anonymous No.1598404]

>>1598399
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON

[Anonymous No.1598418]

>>1598399
Opena's a fucking fantastic artist.

His work looks even better as pencils, before it gets inked and coloured.

>>1598404
Deadpool is slicing off bits of his forearm to feed to Archangel, keeping him alive. Because Deadpool's healing factor means his arm will grow back in a matter of minutes.

[Anonymous No.1598421]

good art is subjective
technically good art is objective

Idgaf

[Anonymous No.1598430]

eddie campbell, I love the sketchiness

[Anonymous No.1598433]

Brian Bolland

[Anonymous No.1598445]

>>1598433
That rat is too cute to be in that situation.

[Anonymous No.1598450]

Mike Mignola

Really I'm surprised he wasn't in here earlier.

[Anonymous No.1598466]

>>1598342

My entire motivation for studying Loomis and getting serious about art comes from that sketch page.

[Anonymous No.1598467]

I've always enjoyed FSc. Is she the best? Nah but personally I've always found it to be very appealing.

[Anonymous No.1598469]

European comics > western comics

[Anonymous No.1598487]

Frank Cho, sorry dont have pics right now, he's awesome

[Anonymous No.1598489]

I love Hiroaki Samura's "Blade of the Immortal"
great artwork, good story, strong characters

>inb4 manga isn't comic

[Anonymous No.1598493]

>>1598469

I don't like that American comics are called western comics. Since a large part of Europe is part of the western world. This is a silly term that was created when manga became popular.

[Anonymous No.1598497]

Gibrat

[Anonymous No.1598501]

I really, really dislike the generic comic book coloring. It's like they get value and saturation wrong on purpose.

[Anonymous No.1598509]

>>1598372
He's not really a comic book artist, but does cover art illustrations for comic books.

[Anonymous No.1598516]

>>1598327
all the best comic book art is from before they started thinking of themselves as 'le sequential artises'

[Anonymous No.1598519]

always liked loisel's peter pan. beautiful story, expressive style. lot's of butts.

[Anonymous No.1598530]

Huang-Jia Wei

[Anonymous No.1598531]

what's the name of that french dude who drew the druna comics? hot as fuck

[Anonymous No.1598537]

>>1598531
>druna

Druuna
by Serpieri

I've never liked it

[Anonymous No.1598539]

>>1598537

and btw he is Italian not french

[Anonymous No.1598541]

>>1598516
Ain't that the truth. Here's a page I saved from an old 50's comic.

[Anonymous No.1598544]

>>1598340
>but for some reason Liefeld's the devil.
because he's the richest

[Anonymous No.1598564]

>>1598541
Golden age and silver age comics got NOTHING on todays comic art. The artists back then could barely draw and everything looked static and boring as shit. Of course today there are also a lot of hack artists in this industry who can't into anatomy or just trace photos and rely on crutches all the time, but the great comic book artists of today are lightyears ahead of any comic book artist of the 50s.

[Anonymous No.1598576]

>>1598564
>the great comic book artists of today are lightyears ahead of any comic book artist of the 50s.
citation needed

you only think that because the artists of today can afford to spend more time on their work, because it pays better

[Anonymous No.1598579]

>>1598564

Burne Hogarth was pretty badass

[Anonymous No.1598584]

John Bolton

[Anonymous No.1598594]

>>1598564
>Implying that anyone working in comics today...

[Anonymous No.1598596]

>>1598594
>...is fit to lick the bootheels of guys like Frazzeta and Raymond

Toppest kek.

[Anonymous No.1598619]

>>1598576

not the guy you're replying to, but Frazetta was exceptional. There were a lot of really, really bad artists in the comics of the 50s.

course, there are a lot of really bad artists doing comics today, too

[Anonymous No.1598635]

>>1598576
>>1598579
>>1598584
>>1598594
>>1598596

Indeed there were a handfull of great illustrators who dabbled into comics for a little bit, but none of them were primarely comic artists and even if we consider those people, Frazetta is the only one who really stands out. The others posted are still worse than a lot of today's artists in the industry.

[Anonymous No.1598636]

>>1598635
get your eyes checked

[Anonymous No.1598648]

>>1598450
i love how he draws, but i'm not really a fan of the hellboy character. what's his best stuff that isn't hellboy or a hellboy spin off?

[Anonymous No.1598655]

>>1598450
I like it.
its comfy

[Anonymous No.1598657]

>>1598648
Rob Liefeld's X-Force.

http://robliefeldcreations.com/?p=2664

[Anonymous No.1598661]

Nihei's architectural background shines through his work, especially in Blame!

Imo "western" art don't really do it for me. The shiny, the plastic pages, the coloring has been done digitally and the sum of it all reeks from entertainment industry. It's hard to take seriously as a piece of art. Which is a shame because it's pretty much the standard on the american market, especially in superhero comics.

[Anonymous No.1598667]

Mœbius is just mind blowing.

[Anonymous No.1598669]

>>1598648
The Amazing Screw-On Head.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_64GdGhuOkU

[Anonymous No.1598670]

Juan Giménez.

[Anonymous No.1598672]

James Stokoe.

[Anonymous No.1598710]

>>1598497
Those lips are making me all warm inside

[Anonymous No.1598717]

>>1598537
I like his butts

[Anonymous No.1598720]

>>1598584
This page is making me queasy as fuck

[Anonymous No.1598730]

>>1598469
>Calls american comics "Western"
>Thinks yurop is not part of the western world
A self hating americlap who still acts like a dumb americlap is a rare thing to see.

[Anonymous No.1598741]

>>1598667
I wish he was still alive just so I could tie him to a chair and find out how he did those subtle colour gradients and fades before he switched to a Wacom.

>>1598670
Mah nigga.

[Anonymous No.1598751]

I like me some Kenneth rocafort

[Anonymous No.1598753]

>>1598741
watercolor?

[Anonymous No.1598756]

I didn't read the comic but I like this art

[Anonymous No.1598758]

>>1598661

Mah nigga.

Shame the way he draws faces, though.

[Anonymous No.1598759]

>>1598741

Gravity.

[Anonymous No.1598767]

>>1598753
Probably, it's what all the seventies Japanese artists used.

[Anonymous No.1598770]

Can anyone here help me out and post a picture of those mango cars?
They were black and white and painted by a japanese person, I forgot the name though

[Anonymous No.1598776]

Sana Takeda

[Anonymous No.1598779]

>>1598469
Italian?

[Anonymous No.1598780]

>>1598497
Her head is too big for her hands, oh my god, it is driving me crazy!

[Anonymous No.1598794]

>>1598751
I really want to like him, because he's got a cool style and gorgeous colours, but everything he draws looks so fucking flat.

Plus he occasionally fucks up his anatomy and proportions big-time.

[Anonymous No.1598823]

Winsor McCay had great sense for the surreal, his linework was always elegant and his architecture impeccable.

[Anonymous No.1598942]

Inks:
Sean Murphy
Cameron Stewart
Becky Cloonan
Matt Zaffino
Sergio Toppi

Colourist:
Dave Stewart
Jordie Bellaire

Sequential "masters":
Guarnido (Blacksad)
Otomo (Akira)

[Anonymous No.1599021]

>>1598576

AND they had less time to work on a bookt. Frazetta was/continues to be the greatest artist to have worked in comics

[Anonymous No.1599061]

>>1599021
>AND they had less time to work on a book
>tfw Jack Kirby was reported to have drawn 120 pages in a single month
>tfw many artists working today can't even manage 20

[Anonymous No.1599074]

>>1598779

yes.

[Anonymous No.1599098]

Vittorio Giardino. David Mazzucchelli.Joe Sacco. Enki Bilal. Francisco Solano López. Charles M Schulz

Though in comic books they don't have to be Leonardo Da Vinci. But they must be very good to tight the illustrations to the story.

For example this guy is a very good illustrator, but his comic books suck:
http://media.aintitcool.com/media/legacy/images2009/comics/column09/lastdays1p1.JPG

[Anonymous No.1599193]

>>1598661
Fuck yes

[Anonymous No.1599201]

>>1598501
Generic comic book coloring?

[Anonymous No.1599202]

>>1598340
I'll say I personally blame him for setting me back years as an illustrator. When I was a kid first starting drawing comics I LOVED Liefeld and copied his style.

Years later I stopped adding pouches to everything, learned the proper size of feet and ribcages, and stopped adding crosshatching to every surface area on a face.


As for best comic artists my own in no particular order are

-Bernie Wrightson
-Richard Corbin
-Joseph Michael Linser
-Ben Templesmith
-Alex Ross
-Art Adams
-Michael Allred
-Jae Lee

[Anonymous No.1599369]

Yanick Paquette, definetely underrated but brilliant artist. Terra Obscura is worth reading just because of art alone.

[Anonymous No.1599370]

>>1598487
Cho's work

[Anonymous No.1599373]

>>1599202
Guy you're replying to, I started off with McFarlane.

Still trying to shake off the man's bad habits to this day.

[Anonymous No.1599412]

>>1599369
more of Paquette

[Anonymous No.1599457]

I think a really important thing to remember is that aesthetically appealing art doesn't necessarily mean good comic art. Layouts, eye flow, clarity and dynamism all take precedence. It doesn't matter how pretty your art is if it's hard to read. I recall someone on /ic/ saying they disliked Tim Sale a while ago, and while I understand his style may not appeal to everyone, his comic art has amazing clarity and eye flow.

[Anonymous No.1599474]

>>1599457

Thats true, but easy reading garbage is still garbage.

[Anonymous No.1599482]

Any of you tried to draw comics?
I'd like to start drawing one but I can't really decide how much time should I spend on a single page. I'm going for the realistic black and white, maybe just slightly stylized style.
Since I'm just an amateur hobbyist I don't want to spend tens of hours on a page but I want them to look good. Any tips or thoughts?

[Anonymous No.1599501]

>>1599482
Do really quick thumbnails working out what each page will look like. Quick sketches to capture whatever, but put some thought into it. Maybe write a script if that's your thing. Enlarge the thumbnails to 11x17(make sure your thumbnails are at a ratio that allows for that.) Use a lightbox and start making more detailed sketches on a piece of 11x17 paper. Use this time to decide if you're truly happy with every panel and the overall clarity. Then transfer to bristol board, ink/color and shrink it down. If you're working with PS or what have you, just do that but with layers.

You'll quickly find it to be difficult. You'll need to rethink a lot of panels and you'll second guess yourself a lot. Comics don't flow in the same way films do, so if you think in motion, you'll have a hard time. It's worth it though, you'll learn a lot and finishing a comic is really satisfying.

Ideally, you'd do a page a day, but you'll probably take longer if it's your first time. Read "How To Draw Comics The Marvel Way" and Scott McCloud's 'Making Comics", as well as "Understanding Comics."

>>1599474
I completely agree, but seeing a talented artist make a really confusing layout is such a pain in the ass.

[Anonymous No.1599516]

>>1599482
Work on them until they look the way you want. The amount of time it takes varies and depends on level of detail and the techniques you're using. Generally, for pencils you're looking at a 10-12 hour day but you can cut that down by inking yourself.

Be sure to establish your layout and flow early on in thumbnails before hitting the pages. Once you have your layout locked in, your panels bordered and your perspective grids down you're off to the races.

[Anonymous No.1599555]

>>1599193
awesome detail but fucking a that anatomy

[Anonymous No.1599557]

>>1599412
is her spine broken?

[Anonymous No.1599573]

>>1599501
>>1599516
Thank you for the advice.

[Anonymous No.1599632]

>>1598330
He Asked GOOD not GODLY
but seriously i have a blind friend that says he is great!

[Anonymous No.1599636]

Inoue Takehiko

[Anonymous No.1599639]

Hwang Seong-Won

[Anonymous No.1599663]

>>1599061
>RUSSELL: I want to talk about your work process. What's your record for monthly page output? Because you've said it was 70 pages.

>POPE: [laughs] Something like that.

>RUSSELL: Seventy pages in one month. How the fuck did you do that?

>POPE: You pretty much just put the seat-belt on. It's like having a one-month plane-ride. But that was what was needed -- it was a serious testing ground. This was in 1999, 2000.

>RUSSELL: This happened during your years working with Kodansha?

>POPE: Yeah, toward the end of it. A lot of those guys [working for Kodansha] approached making manga more like a TV studio -- where you had maybe 15 employees. But in the case of myself and Masashi Tanaka. the guy who did the book "Gon" -- remember that? With the dinosaur? --

>RUSSELL: Yeah, yeah.

>POPE: -- We were the only guys working for Kodansha who were working solo at the time. So Tanaka was pretty much my only role model. Him and Jack Kirby. I thought, "Jack Kirby did it while raising four kids; it shouldn't be that tough for me" -- I was only 28 or 29 -- "I can do this." I mean, it didn't look very good -- it wasn't pristine. It wasn't Barry Windsor-Smith having six months to do a page. But that's not what's necessary in manga. Culturally, it's totally different, the way they perceive comics. To me, manga's a different thing, totally -- it's a cousin of comics.

[Anonymous No.1599721]

>>1598780
me too, but nice legs

[Anonymous No.1599730]

>>1598823
by far my favorite page in this thread. realism has never been my cup of tea. The most impressive thing to me is when an artist can effectively convey a story, a movement, an emotion, using simple but powerful lines and composition.

[Anonymous No.1599738]

>>1599636
what a mess

[Anonymous No.1599749]

I really like phil noto's covers and stuff, and if it counts, Hirohiko Araki's art is great in jojo.

[Anonymous No.1599760]

>>1599636
I love this guy so much, every page is flawless and so detailed. Katsuhiro otomo is also one of my all time favorites, and not only because i grew up reading akira.

[Anonymous No.1599775]

>>1599760
>every page is so detailed
That's not always good thing. I still can't figure out what I'm looking at here >>1599636

[Anonymous No.1599814]

>>1599775
That's because you are a little special.

[Anonymous No.1599819]

>>1599814
not that guy, but he's right
it's just too crowed and there's not enough contrast for the image to be easily discernible. Idk, maybe that's what the artist is going for but unless it's meant to be conceived as a slower sequence then he is not effectively pacing these panels.
If it takes longer to grasp what the image is then you play out the movement more slowly in your head, and yes that style takes a bit longer to read so don't give me any bullshit,
>I read it just as quick as any other image because I am so smart I see things right away and always catch complicated jokes immediately too

[Anonymous No.1599824]

If I can bitch for a moment, I really dislike when people hold up Michael Layne Turner as some sort of art god. I just HATE how he does expressions so very very much. All of his female characters seem to have two or three expressions at most.

On the flipside, I do really like Steve Purcell. He does a lot of over-the-top cartoony stuff that doesn't look stupid. He also has some pretty varied character design.

[Anonymous No.1599828]

>>1599819
Anon said they can't decipher what is going on the picture. Granted it is a bit busy, but not to be able to make it out as a whole? Yeah you are a bit special.

[Anonymous No.1599829]

>>1599824
I hated Michael Turner ever since Witchblade's first issue was ever released. I don't understand why people held up his art in such high regard. It was awful. At least he can't so art anymore.

[Anonymous No.1599831]

>>1599828
It shouldn't take two or more passes to understand what certain objects are, but please teach me about seeing better, you who are not special

[Anonymous No.1599833]

>>1599831
it is confusion maybe with the page before it's less confusing as it may establish who's holding what etc.

[Anonymous No.1599836]

>>1599833
I'm talking about most objects, the fingers, the leg in the background, the horizon in the establishing shot getting lost against the background of the next two panels
shit is so grainy it all gets lost in a vague sea of hatching. Yeah, you can tell what's happening but what anon was actually just saying that the excessive detail doesn't work for the benefit of the comic.

[Anonymous No.1599840]

>>1599836
it does sort of, it's literally gritty, i think that's a smooth move, if it's at the cost of a little clarity here and there that's fine.

[Anonymous No.1599842]

>>1599775
Riiight? Basic 2d Design principles! It's a bad design if your eyes have NO fucking clue where to go when looking at a picture.

[Anonymous No.1599856]

>>1599775

It's because Asians(living in Asia. inb4 an Asian born in USA starts to complain) don't perceive reality like in the western world. They have a different culture. While you and me are going to search for the main subjects, an Asian will try to perceive the illustration as a whole.

[Anonymous No.1600060]

Humberto Ramos and Joe Madureira seem similar but a fan of both

[Anonymous No.1600078]

>>1598327
I feel like i come from such a different background from most concept artist /illustrators.

even though i always wanted to have comics as a kid i was never allowed to so i read novels instead.

i had always drawn stuff since i can remember. but my biggist influence at or artist i looked up to were the main stream ones..

escher, dali, standout. and i would have probabbly pursued that if it wasn't for vidya game concept art. especially the first halo.

wondering if there is any sort of comic book artist that would fit my taste of good story + great art. story being most important for me.

I like funky stuff. but i would prefer more finished realistic stuff as well.

[Anonymous No.1600080]

>>1600060

Ramos can't even manage to align a pair of eyes on a head. He is garbage.

[Anonymous No.1600087]

>>1600080
HAHAHAHA THE FUCKING JAWLINE

[Anonymous No.1600116]

>>1598399
why does he feed him the same meat piece twice?
>inb4 the regenerated piece from the same place

[Anonymous No.1600118]

>>1600116

Because fuck you, the artist has deadlines lol

[Anonymous No.1600120]

>>1600118

The only thing that DEAD are the LINES to buy this drivel! A hah... hahah... oh god what am I doing with my life.

[Anonymous No.1600127]

>>1600120
something that is slightly awesome. You just need a little more crazy, go do some drugs, it'll help.

[Anonymous No.1600133]

Joe Kubert was and is the best inker in comics if ya ask me. The way his lines wrap around his dynamic figures is just fucking gorgeous

Faves after that include;
José-Luis Garcia Lopéz
Will Eisner
Alex Toth
John Buscema
Jordi Bernet

Pretty much Silver Age dudes, they all knew their shit

[Anonymous No.1600142]

>>1599856
where the fuck do you read this shit you silly gook-semen gobbler?

[Anonymous No.1600307]

>>1598342
His stuff is very generic looking.

>>1598372
Shit.

>>1598374
Shit.

>>1598378
Ultimate shit. "Everything is perfect" my ass. Two filtered images of an uzi and a horrid sense of action.

>>1598672
WTF is this? They look like stickers.

Why is your taste so bad?

[Anonymous No.1600323]

>>1600307
>all these hot opinions

(Ron Wimberly)

[Anonymous No.1600334]

John Romita Jr.

[Anonymous No.1600337]

John Romita Sr.

[Anonymous No.1600341]

Paolo Rivera

[Anonymous No.1600343]

Francis Manapul

[Anonymous No.1600349]

I.. I kinda like Barbucci/Canepa as a duo..

[Anonymous No.1600350]

Ivan Reis

[Anonymous No.1600351]

>>1600343
>not posting a presents page

why tho

[Anonymous No.1600353]

Daniel Acuna

[Anonymous No.1600358]

Adam Hughes

[Anonymous No.1600357]

J. H. Williams III

>>1600351
Sorry, had that promo pic already saved and it's pretty fucking great.

[Anonymous No.1600359]

Sara Pichelli

[Anonymous No.1600360]

Juanjo Guarnido

[Anonymous No.1600364]

Gene Colan

[Anonymous No.1600365]

Junji Ito

[Anonymous No.1600367]

>>1600360
While it looks great, I would never trust myself with a comic like that. I feel that I am only so far from becoming a furry......

[Anonymous No.1600368]

Leinil Yu

[Anonymous No.1600373]

David Aja

[Anonymous No.1600376]

Masakazu Katsura

>>1600367
Blacksad's an amazing comic. The animal thing is cool stylistic choice that I wouldn't get too hung up. It's so well written with such great art, you'll just wind up being enthralled with the book and not really worrying about furries or what have you.

[Anonymous No.1600383]

Craig Thompson.

[Anonymous No.1600384]

Greg Capullo

[Anonymous No.1600386]

Valerio Schiti

[Anonymous No.1600388]

Charlies Burns.

Trying to wrack my brain for more. There's just so many good artists out there, it's hard to remember them all. I really ought to make a list of my favorites.

[Anonymous No.1600393]

Rafa Sandoval

>>1600388
Maybe we should keep a composite list somehow

[Anonymous No.1600411]

Vitaly Shushko

[Anonymous No.1600417]

Jake Wyatt

[Anonymous No.1600420]

>>1600393
Maybe, but this is all subjective.

I really like Jim Lee's Hush stuff, but I know some people are pretty harsh on him. Some people were shit talking Humberto Ramos before, who, while I generally dislike, does do some cool stuff every once in a while.

And /ic/ is probably going to value aesthetics over things like good eye flow and panel layouts.

[Anonymous No.1600421]

Paul Azaceta

[Anonymous No.1600428]

Douglas Holgate

[Anonymous No.1600430]

Kelly Sue Deconnick

[Anonymous No.1600431]

Valentin Seiche

[Anonymous No.1600432]

XIAO SHANG

[Anonymous No.1600434]

Bastien Vivés

[Anonymous No.1600435]

Gobi

[Anonymous No.1600436]

Jolies Ténèbres

[Anonymous No.1600437]

>>1600430
I think you mean Emma Rios here, anon.

[Anonymous No.1600438]

Vincent Perriot

[Anonymous No.1600440]

>>1600437
my bad, More Emma Rios

[Anonymous No.1600445]

>>1599856
Jesus /ic - why do you attract the worst of retards?

[Anonymous No.1600527]

riccardo federici

[Anonymous No.1600536]

>>1598327
The colouring on that is fucking horrible.

[Anonymous No.1600550]

>>1598327
Frank Miller

[Anonymous No.1600551]

>>1600527
god, it's seems to me that most of these artist have some sort of spanish or italian background, also what's the name of this particular comic?

[Anonymous No.1600561]

>>1600420

Lee's take on Batman is pretty much the opposite of what I consider a good Batman, but the sheer aesthetic quality of it blows me away every time.

[Anonymous No.1600567]

>>1599098
Those faces are so stiff and inexpressive, holy shit

[Anonymous No.1600572]

Threads like these get me so nervous, because as an aspiring comic book penciler a lot of the stuff here is great. But, the reactions are so varied its hard to tell what's good to emulate and what's not. I'm so afraid of being called a hack even when I'm already shit now.

Also, Alex Ross, Gene Ha, and Adam Hughes are personal favorites. They influenced me to to pursue this. Newer influences would be Marko Djurjevic, Lenil Yu, and Kenneth Rocafort.

[Anonymous No.1600574]

>>1600572
You're influenced by very realistic looking artwork, just be aware that while that works well for covers, it doesn't always make for the best comic.

[Anonymous No.1600576]

>>1600574
I've been working on that very thing recently. Its changed my work a lot. I worry less about muscles and rendering and try to accomplish things with line instead. I've also, bee reading up on composition and going back through comics of more "realistic" artists to figure out what makes their art work in the medium. Jae Lee is another artist that I also enjoy.

[Anonymous No.1600583]

>>1600576
I'd recommend you read Scott McCloud's Understanding Comics, he explains how realism can be a little jarring in comics. I don't mean to discourage you. Ross's work in Kingdom Come and Marvels is great, but Adi Granov's work on Iron Man Extremis looked stiff and lifeless.

[Anonymous No.1600588]

>>1600583
Coincidentally, I'm in the middle of reading it now!

Most of my fears of comics come from my own mind. Since I'm doing all of my pencils traditionally and line work has been a weak point of mine, I fear that I'll never be able to get good line work like most digital artists. Nor, achieve the insane level of detail in my work like the likes of Phillip Tan, Kenneth Rocafort or Mico Suayan. If there was a book on overcoming that in comics, I'd love to read it.

[Anonymous No.1600620]

>>1600583

I downloaded that book and I'm reading it now. It is making me very aware of exactly what I want to do with my life.

Thank you.

[Anonymous No.1600624]

>>1600588
>Phillip Tan

Holy shit wow, just looked him up. I really need to buckle down and read Johns Green Lantern stuff already.

I don't know of any book that gives advice such as that. All I can say is practice practice practice. Tight, detailed line work is hard but you can get there.

>>1600620
Be sure to read Making Comics as well, and check out the various comics he uses as examples. His own comic, Zot, is also pretty nifty.

How To Draw Comics The Marvel Way may seem outdated or too simple, but the explanation in the back about dynamic panels and the example Avengers page of "how a marvel artist does it" is so fucking eye opening.

[Anonymous No.1600625]

>>1600624
>How To Draw Comics The Marvel Way

I've had and studied that book for years. It's always great to flip through it after a while and get refreshed.

[Anonymous No.1600628]

>>1600307
So, who's your favorite artist?

[Anonymous No.1600629]

>>1600628
Judging by his opinions, I'd probably say Christian Weston Chandler.

[Anonymous No.1600630]

>>1600624
I'm about to fill my sketchbook with line exercises right now. Here's to good art.

[Anonymous No.1600633]

>>1600624
> I really need to buckle down and read Johns Green Lantern stuff already.

If you do so make sure you read the Green Lanterns Corps issues that run alongside it. Essential to fleshing out Johns' world.

[Anonymous No.1600631]

>>1598670
How this guy makes this coloring. It's simply fantastic.

[Anonymous No.1600669]

>>1600142
>where the fuck do you read this shit you silly gook-semen gobbler?

The fact that you're totally ignorant about it doesn't make it silly.

[Anonymous No.1600670]

>>1600551

Many of them are Italians 100%
It's not such an incredible thing since in Italy there are many important Art schools and they're really cheap.

[Anonymous No.1600683]

>>1600670
nothing is really cheap in italia, and it's full of italians

[Anonymous No.1600716]

>>1600360
YES BLACKSAD. Holy shit so good.

[Anonymous No.1600721]

>>1600670
I'm italian and most art schools suck dicks. I think it's more the fact that in Italy you're surrounded by art, I live in Rome so it's even more apparent.

I tried the academy of fine arts, it was a scam to say the least.

[Anonymous No.1600727]

>>1600388
He's the master of inking. The black is the same shade yet he still manages some of the most intricate art work and atmosphere.

[Anonymous No.1601030]

>>1600307
solid contribution brah
keep it up

[Anonymous No.1601041]

>>1600716
Blacksad so much. It was one of the only comics my school had

[Anonymous No.1601072]

[Anonymous No.1601122]

Massimiliano Frezzato

[Anonymous No.1601123]

Hermann Huppen

[Anonymous No.1601126]

Hal Foster

[Anonymous No.1601152]

Leonardo Manco is one of the main influences.

[Anonymous No.1601169]

>>1600323
I actually agree with him about Stokoe.

I have no idea what people see in that guy.

>Hurr so detailed durr draws with a claw hand durr hurr

Yeah, sure, detailed. Be nice if he learnt more about perspective and anatomy and how not to kill all the life in his pencil work with his shitty inking.

[Anonymous No.1601171]

>>1600420
They really need to do something about the fact that most comic art looks better as pencils...

[Anonymous No.1601173]

>>1600536
It grows on you.

All-Star Superman is an amazing comic. One of the best ever written.

[Anonymous No.1601174]

>>1600551
Is... is that Frank Yang's mind giving birth to /fit/?

Who drew that?

[Anonymous No.1601175]

>>1601174
I think it's miles johnston

[Anonymous No.1601177]

>>1601171

They are. A lot of comics now skip inks and the colorist paints under darkened pencils.

[Anonymous No.1601181]

>>1601175
>Confirmed /fit/izen
>Britbong
>Gibson fan (pic related)

Jesus, he's like me, if I had talent.

[Anonymous No.1601191]

>>1601181
There's no way Case was that attractive. He was a sleep-starved drug addict with serious nerve damage who had been living in the underbelly of society for most of his life.

[Anonymous No.1601213]

>>1601191
Who said sleep-deprived drug addicts can't be good-looking?

I mean Molly slept with him, he can't have been that bad.

>Pic related, alcoholic drug-addicted burnout in his mid-40's

[Anonymous No.1601228]

>>1601175
It is indeed Miles.

[Anonymous No.1601231]

>>1599842
>Murricans not knowing how to read mango.

Typical.

[Anonymous No.1601232]

>>1600445
It's a bit true though. Also. They read righto left. If you're acusomed to that this page would make sense you.

[Anonymous No.1601234]

>>1599639
>xosister
Mein nigga.

[Anonymous No.1601236]

>>1600080
>>1600087
>dat jaw
More like dat everything.
>lopsided eyes
>broken shoulders/long torso syndrome
>bad foreshortening of everything.
>Balloon tits
>Thigh gap too large

[Anonymous No.1601237]

>>1601236
>Balloon tits

Well it IS Mary Jane.

[Anonymous No.1601286]

Bs, academy is really cheap there

And if you meant american italians as italians you are just an idiot

[Anonymous No.1601288]

>>1601236
>implying comic artists are trying to be realistic

[Anonymous No.1601297]

>>1598576
Franzetta was one of the last great comic artists. He's still unmatched even by the people who shamelessly ape his style.

[Anonymous No.1601305]

>>1600080
>attempt to redline this
>shit is more fucked up than I first realized

The fucked up thing that Humberto Ramos complained about some comic he read was drawn poorly. The irony was so thick that he couldn't even see it. It would be akin to Rob Liefeld complaining that the Mona Lisa is drawn poorly.

I wish I could have tweeted that to him.

[Anonymous No.1601306]

>>1601305
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1302528630/masters-of-anatomy

>First quote at top of page

Delicious iron knee.

[Anonymous No.1601308]

>>1601306
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

At this point he needs a freaking miracle.

[Anonymous No.1601310]

>>1601306
>Masters of Anatomy book
>Some of the featured artists suck real bad at anatomy

[Anonymous No.1601315]

>>1601305
>It would be akin to Rob Liefeld complaining that the Mona Lisa is drawn poorly.

Not quite the Mona Lisa, but during Rob Liefeld's recent meltdown at DC he tweeted about having to put up with shitty art on one of the books he wrote.

[Anonymous No.1601319]

>>1601315
By an artist who completed the book despite being in the process of dying of terminal cancer, no less.

I always liked Rob because he was so enthusiastic about his work and didn't let the hatred of the vocal side of the comics community get him down, but that was seriously a dick move on his part.

[Anonymous No.1601320]

>>1601308
Keep scrolling down, he's one of the contributing artists...

[Anonymous No.1601325]

Anybody here make their own comics? Could turn this into a thread similar to the "Anime/Manga" ones.

[Anonymous No.1601481]

>>1601325
I was thinking of starting a webcomic. I found myself thrust into doing sketchy marker visuals for a living, I'm not the best artist in the world but I make a habit of frequenting /ic/, /co/ drawthreads and lurking conceptart.org to try and improve.

I wouldn't mind getting some feedback from you guys on the general idea if you're up for it.

[Anonymous No.1601514]

[Anonymous No.1601561]

>>1601514
lel

[Anonymous No.1601596]

>>1601561
>Badmouthing Araki

[Anonymous No.1601598]

>>1601596

I don't like Araki much either, I dont' get the endless dicksucking he gets

>m-muh beautiful men with full lips, struck poses and FABULOUS

And that's all there is to his art.

[Anonymous No.1601706]

>>1601598
I'm going to go ahead and assume you've never actually read JoJo's the manga, because it's full of wonderfully inventive costume designs, locales, characters and action scenes all married to great storytelling and a warm-hearted, goofy sense of humour.

[Anonymous No.1601707]

>>1601706
NO.
Just no.

[Anonymous No.1601710]

>>1601707
"no", you haven't read? figures...

[Anonymous No.1601719]

>>1601596
>>1601706
>>1601710
not that other anon, but really get off araki's dick. It's an art forum and so we will focus on the visual aspect of his work, which is pretty fucking bad
just look at that sameface here
>>1601514
what's more, his line work is inconsistent, downright ugly, and hardly helps to express weight or dimension

[Anonymous No.1601733]

>>1600349
Hell yeah.
Skydoll is probably the prettiest looking comic I've ever read.

[Anonymous No.1601742]

>Araki
>Good
I like JJBA too but let's not kid ourselves.
He's above average as far as manga artists go but that's not saying much.

[Anonymous No.1601750]

>>1601719
Yeah, so inconsistent, downright ugly and unexpressive of weight and dimension that Gucci hired him to provide artwork for all of their flagship stores...

[Anonymous No.1601755]

>>1601750
I expected more of an argument

[Anonymous No.1601756]

>>1601742
He got a lot better.

That's Phantom Blood, book one. Compare it to books seven and eight.

[Anonymous No.1601760]

It's becoming pretty obvious that there's a fanboy in the thread who really wants Araki to make the cut...

[Anonymous No.1602025]

/co/ doesn't judge proportions or lighting.
They judge everything else: texture, linework and meaning/political impact.

[Anonymous No.1602500]

>>1602025
Well of course.

/ic/ is likely to harp on the things you mentioned while ignoring the all important clarityb.

[Anonymous No.1602533]

>>1598576
Not to mention the supplies available

Old school comics were limited to 28 colors of ink, because cheap. Now with digital you can make whatever the fuck you want

[Anonymous No.1603278]

>>1602025
No they judge proportions sometimes and linework; that's it.