/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.1592873]

Why has art become so terrible?

[Anonymous No.1592875]

>>1592873
That second artists painting of the black dude really gives off the you gonna get raped vibe

Poor Hitler

He was pretty good

[Anonymous No.1592881]

>>1592873
Because there exist plebs who actually believe Hitler is more of an artist than Schiele.

[Anonymous No.1592882]

>>1592875
>but he no into perspective

[Anonymous No.1592888]

>>1592875
>That second artists painting of the black dude
>not knowing who Schiele is
>not recognizing one of his self-portraits
>thinking dark beige = black
Anon, you just can't.

[Anonymous No.1592889]

Because artists have become mentally ill. Beauty is ugly to them and disgusting things arouse them. Modern art is entirely based around arousing the depraved sexual desires of mentally ill and inbred billionaires.

Create something that shows the beauty of the human body or the magnificence of human architecture? Terrible.

Take a picture of yourself shitting on a rotten cow head while a woman stand nearby and shoves spaghetti up her cunt? BRILLIANT. A TRUE MASTER PIECE.

[Anonymous No.1592897]

[Anonymous No.1592899]

>>1592881

Schiele wasn't an artist, he was a degenerate.

[Anonymous No.1592909]

Hitler should've presented a more complete portfolio. The three shown in that pic look more like "studies" than actual demonstrations of what he sees and what he could be or wants to be as an artist.

[Anonymous No.1592911]

We don't need this thread every week...or at all.

There's a load of great contemporary art. You just don't care about any of it because your real interest isn't art, it's belonging to your wannabe Nazi club. Just like any other aimless youth. Actually exploring the art world and looking at all of the fine work being produced would bore you to tears, because, like typical liberal scum, you're only interested on focusing on what upsets you, and telling people that they shouldn't be able to do things that upset
>muh feelings

You're like a shrieking, irrational feminist.

You have absolutely no interest in the huge amount of traditional and rather conservative art being made because you're a culturally ignorant shit - a TRUE degenerate. You're probably NEET to boot.

Get the fuck out.

[Anonymous No.1592913]

We don't need this thread every week...or at all.

There's a load of great contemporary art. You just don't care about any of it because your real interest isn't art, it's belonging to your wannabe Nazi club. Just like any other aimless youth longs for some rigid idealogical system in an effort to simplify the world. Actually exploring the art world and looking at all of the fine work being produced would bore you to tears, because, like a liberal, you're only interested on focusing on what upsets you, and telling people that they shouldn't be able to do things that upset
>muh feelings

You're like a shrieking, irrational feminist attempting to dictate culture.

You have absolutely no interest in the huge amount of traditional and rather conservative art being made because you're a culturally ignorant shit - a TRUE degenerate. You're probably NEET to boot.

Are there problems with the art world caused by money and cultural marxism? Absolutely. Are you the one who's going to do anything about it, and does this thread belong here? No.

Get the fuck out.

[Anonymous No.1592916]

>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.1592960]

>The next Hitler could be posting on /ic/ right now
>One more critique consisting of 'how many Loomises have you read in your life' could be all it takes to drive him over the edge

[Anonymous No.1592971]

>>1592873
I hate to sound like a pleb but these statues the 2nd guy makes are so ugly. They look like turds.

[Anonymous No.1592984]

>>1592889
No, people have become less interested in aesthetics since the fall of the renaissance and instead have become more interested about the artist in question rather than his work.

[Anonymous No.1592988]

>>1592873
Why does /ic/ worship realism?

Face it, realism is dead. Yeah Hitler's skills are impressive but that's about it. Realism is almost counter productive, the better you are at painting realistically the more obsolete you become. All that work to become a shitty photocopy machine.

Hitler was smart and moved on to become the greatest source of comedy in history.

[Anonymous No.1593002]

>>1592875
He was denied because his work was plain and uncreative. You don't want your art school to be remembered for doing what everyone else is doing.

[Anonymous No.1593004]

>>1592988
Surrealism is where it's at.

[Anonymous No.1593005]

Guys, guys, just because you don't understand it, it doesn't mean it's terrible. It's just not your thing to play puzzles with arts or receive pleasure by ugliness, that's all.

[Anonymous No.1593019]

>>1592875
>not knowing who "that second artist" is
>thinking his it's a black dude

Stay pleb /ic/

[Anonymous No.1593063]

>>1592988
hitler was actually kind of bad at painting

[Anonymous No.1593070]

>>1592916
>Good...good...heheheh.

[Anonymous No.1593073]

>>1592988
>the better you are at painting realistically the more obsolete you become.
Or the better you get at being able to render recognizable and/or believable structure.
Which is important for any style.

[Anonymous No.1593113]

>>1592984
>No, people have become less interested in aesthetics since the fall of the renaissance

Your grasp of art history is stunning. Stunningly poor. Holy shit, you have no idea what you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.1593165]

>Why has art become so terrible?

>>1592875

nuff said

[Anonymous No.1593212]

>>1592899
you're a fucking moron.

[Anonymous No.1593228]

>>1592889
seems like you don't know much about the modern art world.

do yourself a favor read and if that's to hard watch some documentarys one the subject instead of spewing your non-sense of ill informed opinons all over the place/

[Anonymous No.1593239]

>>1593228
>you're just not smart enough to "get it"
>said every circle-jerking hipster faggot modern artist ever

The emperor has no clothes. The sooner you get that, the sooner art will be good again.

[Anonymous No.1593243]

>>1593239
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JANhr4n4bac

[Anonymous No.1593271]

Well, people have been trying for centuries to get better at art. The reneissance and the rise of perspective is an indication of this. People realised that shadows actually had colour when the impressionists appeared, but recently art has become less about depicting the real world.

It's become about how far you can push the boundaries of something and still call it art. As a result, everyone has their own limit, and everyone interprets things differently. The artist might be saying something about existantialism in his painting of a homosexual covered in his own semen- but then again he could just be thinking to himself "I cant believe I got paid millions for this piece of dogshit".

The boundaries of what defines art aren't there, and they never have been. Our boundaries of what we THINK is Art though, we have pushed those so far that we can no longer be truly shocked by anything anyone does anymore, and as such it becomes less about the work in question and more about yourself. Are you willing to accept the disgusting work before your eyes as a piece of art? You might say, "fuck no!", yet it's still there in that museum, protected by alarms and cctv.

[Anonymous No.1593301]

>>1592899
I'm convinced that you are the one and only guy that calls shiele garbage on this board.

[Anonymous No.1593354]

>tfw you know someone in a New York Art School that regularly goes to MOMA
>tfw he and his classes are based around the idea that ugly, cheap things are 'art', and pretty things are 'old fashioned'
>tfw Van Gogh is considered old fashioned to them

I can't deal with it
I just want to make beautiful things to enjoy and to pull myself out of my miserable existence

Who in their right mind wants to look at horrifically ugly things?

[Anonymous No.1593358]

this pretty much sums it up:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/modern-art-was-cia-weapon-1578808.html

[Anonymous No.1593359]

because they do not have robust manful fortitude.

[Anonymous No.1593378]

>>1592873
Granted Hitler paints boring shit, but when I see the bottom three it makes me wish that he had won.

[Anonymous No.1593382]

>>1593301

if that's the case i want it to be known that i call schiele garbage too. and i'm not even chromafaggot.

so there's two of us, atleast.

[Anonymous No.1593397]

>>1593378
fukkin dare you to try and make a sculpture like that

[Anonymous No.1593399]

>>1593397
You best be kidding m8. A high schooler with a high school art education could make that.

[Anonymous No.1593403]

I'm surprised more and more people don't talk about the wrath of an angry painter who shook the world.

[Anonymous No.1593415]

>>1593403
because he wasn't good enough at painting to be called a painter. he was much better at other things and ws never professionally an artist.

[Anonymous No.1593423]

>>1593239
you don't know what "modern" is. You mean "contemporary". The modern era came to a close with Warhol.

[Anonymous No.1593429]

>>1592897
that chick got a lazy eye

[Anonymous No.1593606]

>>1593423
Modern era with Warhol?
What about Van Gogh, Duchamp and Malevitch. Those guys made modern art.

[Anonymous No.1593608]

>>1593358
>this pretty much sums it up:
>http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/modern-art-was-cia-weapon-1578808.html

No it doesn't, you stupid fucking cunt.

1. Modern Art era began in the mid 1800s.
2. The CIA helped fund some struggling traveling European tours of American Abstract Expressionism in Europe so as to show that America had a free and distinct art scene, notably different from that in places like the Russia where socialist realism was enforced.
3. The CIA were Ivy League people who just picked the art they already liked. The Abstract Expressionist scene was already well-established and influential in the U.S.
4. The CIA did absolutely nothing to create art or art movements.

Retard.

[Anonymous No.1593621]

>>1592873
Hitler's paintings were unbelievably bland. No emotional passion or artistic flair whatsoever... maybe because he was a psychopath who would later commit genocide.

[Why Hitler's Art Sucks No.1593622]

Paul Rand once explained that design is simple form and content together, and everything human is design. Art is a part of that tradition of combining from and content. Form is the presentation, the actual shape of something, while content is meaning or reasoning behind something.

The problem with Hitler's work is that they're empty of content, and the form is mediocre at best. There's nothing meaningful behind his work, NOTHING. You could tell his work evokes no spirit of seeing things beyond how they're presented. It's interesting how in a speech he declared modern art to be subhuman. Perhaps this was because he was so egotistical he was incapable of seeing the elements of design and the fundamentals art moving pass the role of presenting things as they actually are, and into the role presenting the content of things as they could be.

That's why he sucks. He couldn't make things like color, line or shape (etc.) into being prominent actors on the canvas. All he could do is limit them to minor roles like being stage props in a boring play. They're mediocre, hollow, representation of things with nothing of interest behind them.

[Anonymous No.1593628]

>>1593622
This is delicious and I'm saving it for later.

[Anonymous No.1593638]

>>1593354
>Who in their right mind wants to look at horrifically ugly things?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_school

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_marxism

It's a long-term large scale effort to destroy Western civilization and European-derived peoples.

[Anonymous No.1593647]

>>1593622
That was beautiful man

[Anonymous No.1593652]

Egon schile was amazing, what are you talkin' bout.

[Anonymous No.1593658]

>>1593622
>Hitler's work is that they're empty of content, and the form is mediocre at best. There's nothing meaningful behind his work, NOTHING.
And what is the meaning behind the other works in OP's pic?

[Anonymous No.1593672]

>>1593658
They showcase the intangible things in life, content that can't be fixed to a particular thing but can be expressed through how forms are presented. They show perversion, sexual desire, fear, anxiety, sadness. Hitler's work is the odd man out, scenery with some figure studies. Boring and unsophisticated, like draw threads or animu threads

[Anonymous No.1593677]

>>1593672
You could read nebulous feelings like that into Hitler's work too if you wanted.

[Anonymous No.1593681]

>>1593677
No you couldn't. It would be you putting those things into his work, the others provoke from their work, your feelings and thoughts add to the experience they provide. Boring doesn't provoke. Hollow stuff can be easily filled with whatever you want, and that would not be innate to the work no matter how bad you want it to be.

[Anonymous No.1593772]

>>1593608
CIAIDF detected

[Anonymous No.1593816]

>first 2 pics are meh
>third is actually good
>fourth looks like shit
I can see why he was denied.