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[FiRez !!tndrCZJHE+I No.1557351]

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Post your current drawing here and give constructive critiques to others!
Please make sure your posted image is clear and is under 1500 x 1500 pixels in size.
If you want critique on a drawing from the previous thread, you can delete it there and repost in this one.

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[Anonymous No.1557358]

>>1557351
I just wanna express my distaste for the fact that this thread isn"t called "draw bread". How dare you, sir? I thought we were friends.

[Anonymous No.1557359]

>>1557358
you can't draw bread anyway, nerd.

[Anonymous No.1557363]

Haven't drawn as much as I would have liked over the summer, trying to get back into the swing of studies.

[Anonymous No.1557366]

>>1557363
Ref

[Anonymous No.1557390]

Working on this. No idea where to go with Alienish Robotic, or Wood outside of making it like a tree or something. Rhino skin is pissing me off, turns out it's not like elephants at all.

[Anonymous No.1557407]

>>1557390
they all look like they're painted with the same matte finish. needs more shiny basically, and idk if that fur is finished, but it ain't furry.

[Anonymous No.1557427]

>>1557351
how can someone work on the same thing for so long and not improve at all?

[Anonymous No.1557435]

>>1557427
don't shitpost in the draw thread

[Anonymous No.1557444]

>>1557435
i am not trolling. i really can't understand how one can be so inefficient with their time.

[Anonymous No.1557446]

>>1557390

someone is using my stuff as exercise material

:O :0 :o :<

keep the angle of the lightsource equal imo, makes it easier to read and definitely look at stuff when you do these spheres. your alien carapace is looking pretty gud already.

[Anonymous No.1557451]

>>1557390
Damn, which brush did you used for that frog texture?

[Anonymous No.1557455]

>>1557451
give hanne's brushes a try. there's one in there that does the exact thing

[Anonymous No.1557474]

>>1557390
Reminder that you're drawing a texture SPHERE. The textures should wrap around the sphere form, not a round 2d cut out that bloats slightly.

Try to apply tone correctly to the spheres. Keep one constant light source on all of them. Study back the basics of light and shadow and it's components such as form shadows, bounced light, etc. Textures doesn't mean anything if you fail at values.

Also, if you just flat painting the textures without giving a thought on how the textures are formed, it will look flat. Grab something 'textury', and look it under different light situations. Is the texture more prominent in the shadows? How about around midtones? And what does the textures look like under harsh light?

Anyway, I strongly suggest that you master drawing basic forms under light first before jumping straight to these spheres. And you might want to try the 'texture cylinders' template since it is easier in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.1557478]

>>1557363
keep up the good work.

>>1557169
author of this crap reporting in, thank you dear anon for the skin tut, tried to implement it, how did I go? any improvement?

[Anonymous No.1557480]

>>1557478
and the ref

[Anonymous No.1557482]

>>1557480
>>1557478

that ref is extremely unfortunate if you insist on doing your study separated from the background/scene. i would encourage you to add that, otherwise the illumination and all of the surface doesn't make remotely any sense.

[Anonymous No.1557484]

>>1557478
you stiffened her pose a little which has lead to the legs and belly being disproportionately smaller in you drawing. it also removes the torque, the tension from the pose.

usually if anything in figure drawing you want to emphasis the dynamics of a pose. but straightening out the figure is a pretty common rookie mistake so don't feel bad, but it's one to watch especially when it distorts the proportions.

[Anonymous No.1557498]

>>1557407
I didn't start the fur, just tossed a gradient in there. I'll keep that in mind though.>>1557446
>>1557451
It was just a standard bristle type that I went back over with a few times.
>>1557474
Thanks for the advice. I had trouble actually having to remember to work around the sphere at times. I'll probably go for the cylinder next, wrapping certain things around a sphere without context around it is a pain in the ass to get it to read correctly.

Thanks all

[Anonymous No.1557502]

How does one blend?

[Anonymous No.1557504]

>>1557502
Lower the opacity of your brush. But blending is the least of your worries right now.

[Anonymous No.1557517]

>>1557504
What's the biggest of my worries?

[Anonymous No.1557519]

>>1557517

not him but

fix the lips
fix eyes, they are too close

[FiRez !!tndrCZJHE+I No.1557521]

>>1557358
;_; Sorry pal


>>1557435
I thought this only happened in the animu threads

>>1557444
I just don't have that much available time per day. Isn't about time-management, that's for sure.

Also this the first time I use SAI, there are many things I know I could do but my very limited knowledge about the program was a huge constraint.

All things considered I think it wasn't a terrible study, mind telling me what's so wrong about it?

[Anonymous No.1557527]

>>1557351

cloud brogress

i like their plasticity, but they don't really flow very well into perspective. and the light angle seems very inconsistant. ontop of that there is just no depth or atmospheric perspective

[Anonymous No.1557539]

crop progress from last thread
going to adjust overall piece values after bodies are done, then work in a more noisy and less suggestive bg than I usually try at the end. challenging and fun method

>>1557264
>Your pseudo neo-classism it's so tacky, why can't you try to stick with the times for once? Fucking British cunt
lol

[Anonymous No.1557541]

workin hard as I can on my values

[Anonymous No.1557545]

>>1557541
are your reference materials photos of black people in the dark?

[Anonymous No.1557547]

>>1557527
looks alright but the colors are dead
The clouds are completely grey and white but they should at least pick up warm colors from the ground and cool ones from the sky.
Also I think if you'd paint the ground like it was lit by the sun the image would make a better impression overall.
A few additional elements in the image would be good as well as it would make it seem more alive- a wooden wind mill in the background, some birds, insects. that kind of stuff

[Anonymous No.1557549]

>>1557548
shit, am I looking at a painting of your own dick?

[Anonymous No.1557548]

>>1557545
>photos

No.

[Anonymous No.1557554]

>>1557547
Oh and if the "camera" is within the field some of the grass/wheat/whatever blades should pierce the upper part of the image. Right now it looks like it's in front of a wall, so to say.
That would push the perspective effect you're trying to achieve as well.

[Anonymous No.1557560]

Hey can I have some tips on how to push my gesture drawing?

These are done between 30 seconds and 10 minutes from photo reference.

[Anonymous No.1557567]

WIP

I think I'll stop for today, but I feel like should stop forever. Trying to learn this is hard as fuck.

Any help/tips to fix this?

[Anonymous No.1557570]

>>1557560
push it by getting rid of the idea that gesture drawing is "fast". its about caputring the action and weight of a pose efficiently and deliberately. not about trying to instill some kind of energy in your drawing by scribbling it wildly. just observe

[Anonymous No.1557583]

>>1557547
>>1557554

thanks for your feedback! some cool input, and yeah there's definitely gonna be a bit more going on there will be this cute stylized warrior girl and her moose companion posing in epic manner. i would love to have more grass for that close-to-viewer feel but i'm afraid of it being too distracting, might try after i have the characters in though.

ty <3

[Anonymous No.1557596]

An assignment for school. Should I add color to it? The car is really annoying, right?

[Anonymous No.1557599]

>>1557596

if i'm reading that perspective correctly that car is defying the laws of physics

[Anonymous No.1557604]

I have no idea what I am doing...

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.1557606]

>>1557527
stop, they don't look like clouds.

Instead of just trying to copy the colour of one image, try and learn how clouds look and WHY the look that way, just paint a load of different clouds from different sources.

[Anonymous No.1557609]

>>1557504
>Lower the opacity of your brush.
pleb

[Anonymous No.1557620]

how should i go about rendering the hair in this picture?

[Anonymous No.1557622]

>>1557620
start by blocking it in

[Anonymous No.1557624]

>>1557622

[Anonymous No.1557625]

>>1557478
continuing with the studies, meh, am I at least going in the right direction?

[Anonymous No.1557627]

>>1557625
ref

[Anonymous No.1557628]

>>1557625
>>1557627
you should get some refs that define the forms more than soft shadows do. high key lighting will help you

[Anonymous No.1557629]

>>1557625
AAAAAAAAAAAAnatomy

[Anonymous No.1557630]

>>1557628
thx, will look into that

[Anonymous No.1557631]

>>1557539
starting a new crop part

>>1557625
stop turning the background white, it's important to lighting, edges, and perception of colours to keep that in

[Anonymous No.1557632]

>>1557606

i think you are wrong and i will disregard your advice LOL

sry if that offends you

[Anonymous No.1557636]

>>1557549
No. I'm not that narcissistic.

[Anonymous No.1557637]

>>1557625

relative values

[Anonymous No.1557640]

>>1557632
wow, not the person that gave you advice, but really dude it look like in staring down a lava lamp, those don't really look like clouds. you need to keep in mind the marks you are making with your brush and how that has an effect on the way forms look as a whole

[Anonymous No.1557642]

>>1557640
so basically use bigger and more bold brushstrokes

[Anonymous No.1557646]

>>1557631
thx, is it any better now?

[Anonymous No.1557649]

>>1557637
damn, got those wrong again didnt I.

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.1557650]

>>1557632
It doesn't bother me, keep wasting your time trying to polish a turd for all I care.

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.1557651]

>>1557646
looking better but she has more weight on her toes, the way you painted her feet is like she is tip-toeing lightly so she looks like she is floating, she leaning into her toes.

[Anonymous No.1557655]

fuck hair, i need tutorials or advice, people

[Anonymous No.1557657]

>>1557655
>>1557620
some progress,

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.1557658]

>>1557655
tutorials suck dick, look at paintings from masters and see how they painted hair, then try and use similar methods in your own studies.

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.1557659]

>>1557657
you should block in all of your colours before detailing like that.

[Anonymous No.1557661]

>>1557659
i did, i just think i did a poor job. let me rework this layer and try again

[Anonymous No.1557660]

>>1557650

it doesn't bother me that it doesn't bother you.

>>1557646

i would move on, you probably squeezed all learning-content out of that one at this point (alot better imo)

[Anonymous No.1557666]

>>1557651
thanks for pointing that out, I think I see what you mean.

>>1557660
thx, and yeah, I feel the same way about it, moving on...

[Anonymous No.1557668]

Done for today.... Would like some feedback when I come back to it tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.1557670]

>>1557668
it's flat as shit

[Anonymous No.1557673]

>>1557670
And how do you suggest I fix that?

[Anonymous No.1557676]

>>1557583
>cute stylized warrior girl and her moose companion posing in epic manner
>>1557583
I love this

[Anonymous No.1557677]

>>1557657
this is the closest ive come. still kinda looks like shit imo

[Anonymous No.1557686]

>>1557677
don't know how precise you want to be but his forehead is getting narrower to the top on the ref, just look at his face like a shape inbetween hair

[Anonymous No.1557687]

I suck. the only thing I sort of know how to do is draw male torsos from the front. if I rotate it, I have trouble. how to get proportions right if one arm is further away than the other?. I also can't draw legs for shit.

plz advise

[Anonymous No.1557688]

>>1557687
http://quickposes.com/pages/timed

try this, like spend every day at least an hour (better if its more like 4hrs) doing these poses, then read a bit of hampton (for example) and repeat. Remember it is practice, that you have to be fond of. Because when you reach a level you'd be satisfied with today, you'll find many more things to improve on. Good luck.

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.1557692]

>>1557687
take a step back and do lots of gesture drawings before trying to draw muscle groups like that, it will stop your drawings from looking stiff. I'd recommend looking at Vilppu's Gesture video(s)

[Anonymous No.1557697]

what do i need to imrpove on /ic/?

[Anonymous No.1557699]

>>1557697
everything

[Anonymous No.1557704]

>>1557699
stop ruining this board with your aimless shitposting
>>1557697
lower body proportions seem off to me

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.1557707]

>>1557697
brushwork definitely needs improvement.

[Anonymous No.1557709]

>>1557636
You need to use better lighting on your boyfriend then.

[Anonymous No.1557719]

I need a spooky steam avatar.
How can I make this spooky for october?

[Anonymous No.1557720]

>>1557688
that's a great site, thanks.

[Anonymous No.1557727]

>>1557688
yoo, thanks for the website

it's great

[Anonymous No.1557728]

>>1557688

yo that website is great thanks.

[Anonymous No.1557729]

>>1557719
Too fucking spooky.

[Anonymous No.1557732]

wip

[Anonymous No.1557733]

>>1557732
Badass, I love it. I dont really have any critiques cause I'm not really on that level enough to do so.

Are you working with just a few layers? the strokes around the cockpit make me think so.

[Anonymous No.1557734]

>>1557732
The guy's face seems out of place.

[Anonymous No.1557735]

>>1557351
my first try at a tree

[Anonymous No.1557738]

>>1557687
if you're having trouble drawing something from a different angle, it's because you don't understand the forms that it's composed of. You need to consult the sticky and practice drawing primitives from different angles and showing perspective.

The other anons suggesting you do lots of gestures, isn't wrong, but I think this would help you more at the point you're at.

[Anonymous No.1557740]

[Anonymous No.1557741]

>>1557740
you're using too much tone to delineate subtle things like the muscles in her arm/on her chest

[Anonymous No.1557742]

>>1557733
Thanks! And yeah I flatten all my layers very often. I don't like jumping between layers, I like being able to carve into and out of shapes, and sometimes use the smudge tool too, which you can't do if it's all different layers. I didn't use any smudge yet in this piece.

>>1557734
Gonna make it a girl actually. How does it feel out of place? like value wise? positioning? you think it should be covered with a helmet?

[Anonymous No.1557745]

>>1557732
i like this alot

[Anonymous No.1557748]

>>1557502
you ruined her lips.

[Anonymous No.1557752]

>>1557732
The bottom half of the canvas is very strong compositionally. It's a tight action shot, but has plenty of breathing room with the solid grays of the plane.

The top of the canvas is too crammed in comparison. Partly because you have a focal point (the figure's head) so close to the edge of the canvas. Part is you have a central midground element (the figure) being cropped by two edges of the canvas simultaneously. Why is our element of interest being shoved off the canvas?

I'm not a fan of the pose, nor the design of the jumping figure. The action doesn't feel very well thought out, as the movement doesn't read clearly and the body is stiff. What happened two seconds before this scene? What will happen two seconds after?

The design feels very forced, with the unnecessary pistons and overly large hinge joints. These look like poorly adapted parts of construction vehicles, and not suitable for something nimble and agile.

The jumping figure also gets lost in the image. You have the same values used in the background, and very similar hues as well. Consider the overall composition and break things down into big value shapes (2-4 value groups, then try to keep those groups distinct). Look at the work of artists like Ruan Jia, who's great at defining clear value masses. Simplify and clarify!

[Anonymous No.1557753]

>>1557740
Your light source is inconsistent, and your forms are wonky. Break things down into basic forms, and render those out if need be. Refine by slowly introducing more complexity to the forms.

[Anonymous No.1557754]

>>1557502
the darkest area needs a bit more dark and the lit areas need to be quite lighter

[Anonymous No.1557757]

>>1557752
Sweet thanks for the thorough crit! Yeah I think you are right about the cropping, I will try to extend the canvas at the top, it may solve a couple issues you mentioned. I might also play with the pose a bit, and will definitely try to pop the figure out more, it is bothering me how poorly the thumbnail reads.

As for the design...yeah I have no idea how to design. I also usually paint fantasy, so this is totally new grounds for me with in terms of design/subject matter. Any suggestions on where I can look for more design stuff?

Thanks again for the critique :)

[Anonymous No.1557779]

This still active?

[Anonymous No.1557781]

>>1557697
head is too big, overall proportions seem off

[Anonymous No.1557783]

>>1557732
im not a fan of the pose of the top figure, doesnt feel natural for one and it also seems kinda impractical/wouldnt happen irl. screams comic book posing

[Anonymous No.1557793]

>>1557757
>Any suggestions on where I can look for more design stuff?

You can start off your research by exploring what contemporary artists are doing in the field, namely concept art for games and film. Next you want to delve in depth with machinery, and military equipment (armor, guns, vehicles, etc). With that understanding in place, you can now look to unusual sources for shape and design inspiration (high fashion, animal breeding competitions, etc - the more unrelated the better). Put it all together and you get a compelling, unique design that's anchored in the real world.

[Anonymous No.1557800]

still tryin to work on my values

[Anonymous No.1557801]

>>1557800
getting better, i really like the lighting in this one, makes for a noble looking member

[Anonymous No.1557802]

I would post what I'm working on... but it contains furry, and it's porn... so it probably would get me banned.

[Anonymous No.1557807]

>>1557806
Oops. Forgot image!

[Anonymous No.1557806]

I feel like I am getting better. Long way to go, but I think I did well without reference.

Left was a few months ago.

[Anonymous No.1557808]

>>1557802
the furry will, the porn is fine, so just censor the animal features or something :p

[Anonymous No.1557814]

>>1557808
oh fuck me...it also has shota too. I'll get critique elsewhere... might as well just send a big black box for an image.

[Anonymous No.1557817]

>>1557814
shota is also fine, it's just furrys and ponies every finds disgusting

[Anonymous No.1557820]

Alright, first time poster here.

I've been sketching for as long as I can remember, never had any formal classes/experience with art outside of high school art courses. I put this together in about half an hour (excuse the graph paper, it was all I had).

Can I get some honest critique? I can't into landscapes and animals for shit, but drawing people has always come rather naturally for me.

Also, would anyone recommend a drawing tablet over a sketchpad + pencil/charcoal?

[Anonymous No.1557822]

>>1557820

And the reference picture.

[Anonymous No.1557825]

>>1557817
looking for an anatomy/proportion check. decided to flatten the image and take away from the lighting/shading because I wasn't satisfied with it.

[Anonymous No.1557830]

>>1557820
it's very very amateur. but it shows promise. basically it's a contour drawing with some messy hatching slapped on it. unfortunately it's quite a big step from where you are to the next level. you could study for a year and still not be very good. not because you suck or anything, just because there's a lot of stuff you have to internalize, like a googlebyte of data.

you can start on your magical journey by reading the sticky and/or going through one of the basic 'seeing like an artist' books (like 'drawing with the right-side of the brain." by betty edwards.) it's a very frustrating road though because your ability to see what's wrong with your work always outstrips your ability to fix those problems so you're never satisfied.

if you just want to have fun you can always just keep what you're doing but make it a bit neater and look at some tutorials and some youtube howtos. that way you can make satisfying work which you and others will enjoy.


stick with a pencil for now.

[Anonymous No.1557832]

>>1557802

Furry is bad?

Even if the art is really good?

[Anonymous No.1557836]

>>1557832
4chan global rules buddy... furfaggotry ruined anthro characters for just about everywhere barring /co/ and /b/ in all of its forms.

It's mostly because a lot of furry artists don't do good art. I can only think of about TWO that can pull it off:

Kenno Arkann

and MAYBE Jay Naylor...

if you think my pic is decent then thanks.

[Anonymous No.1557838]

>>1557830

Thanks for the honesty. I would've put more effort into it but it was really just a quick sketch. I'm not really looking into taking drawing VERY seriously, but I want to keep it as a serious hobby.

Do you have any book/YouTube recommendations for proper shading? I can't do anything but crosshatch.

[Anonymous No.1557841]

>>1557836

I thought Veramundis and Jailbird do a pretty decent job with their quality of work.

Jay Naylor would be one of the artist leaning towards the lesser quality you mentioned, in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.1557845]

>>1557838
>I can't do anything but crosshatch.
you still need to work on your crosshatching

[Anonymous No.1557847]

>>1557845

Yeah, I know. I'll come back later with something new and put extra effort in it.

[Anonymous No.1557848]

>>1557841
okay these two I've never seen before;

veramundis takes time to render his works well. Some of his pieces just feel like well rendered humans with animal heads put on their necks... I know that's what a lot of furry artists do and what I'm kind of doing here...

jailbird is alright, but nothing fantastic compared to Vera. He does a minimal shadow pass with an airbrush.

[Anonymous No.1557851]

>>1557848

Yeah, Veramundis knows what's he is doing. It's actually very nice to look at and you don't need a fetish to enjoy his work unlike most of the terrible art on those fur websites.

[Anonymous No.1557860]

>>1557851
That's why I like Kennoarkkan, he can draw women well and fetishes are just icing on the cake. I also like how he plays with his color palette on his more detailed pieces and his webcomic.

[Anonymous No.1557864]

>>1557631
You mentioned you won't post as many WIP pictures because of the slow board in the last thread. Please reconsider and post it more.

[Anonymous No.1557870]

>>1557860

Ha, yeah. I think being a furry artist is a cheap easy way to make money because you don't even have to be good at art, you just have to cater to a group of people and their niche fetish. But that would be a horrible way to live.

[Anonymous No.1557876]

>>1557870
eh drawing furry is fun
unless you have to do inflation or scat or some wicked shit

[Anonymous No.1557880]

>>1557870
I'm only doing this lewd stuff as something of a hobby.

[Anonymous No.1557879]

>>1557836
I'm pretty sure /ic/ counts as an exception as the content is 100% OC. If someone wants to draw sanic/ponies/furry we should be able to critique them as we can crit everything else. Animuthread for more stylized ponies but still. I'd email mootykins if someone gets banned for wanting crit, regardless of the subject of the piece

[Anonymous No.1557881]

>>1557876

I guess furry just has a negative connotation to it with all the bad drawn art that follows.

>>1557880

Well, obviously you want it to be seen. It is art after all.

That makes me wonder, how do you guys deal with ego when it comes to art?

Is ego a good thing to have sometimes? To be proud of what you accomplished? I know my ego gets in the way when it comes to art. I'll work a long time on something and think it's good, but when I ask for critiques people will say it's poor. It's discouraging and makes me want to stay away from making more art.

[Anonymous No.1557884]

>>1557881
Ego is something of a balancing act. One end of things is getting constant feedback can hamper your work and make you hesitant on decision making. The other hand is what I call George Lucas syndrome, where no one says no to you and you get Star Wars Episode I.

As for continuing art. A professor of mine says something along the lines of: "A good drawing? You have to do a thousand drawings first before you get to the good ones."

Sort of like sex from what I understand: it get's better with practice.

[Anonymous No.1557903]

>>1557884

Shrunkenhead?

[Anonymous No.1557905]

>>1557673
change the light direction so the shadows can help show form. A light shining directly in the face of a person makes them look ugly and flat.

Pic related.

[Anonymous No.1557945]

ok, so i posted this a thread back,
iv changed the hue and the chest, just trying to get an eye catching color scheme going that i can replicate in polished works,

so /ic/
crit me baby one more time.

i will post the other selected hue versions if need be

also i don't feel the ref is necessary either as its a color study and i have strayed quite far from the refs colors.
but if its needed for a crit i will post.

thanks in advance

[Anonymous No.1557949]

>>1557945
looks pretty good, maybe not those red lips though i especially like that violetty color in there with the blue background.

[Anonymous No.1558003]

>>1557949
so like, ease the lips into a lower hue?
thanks i was feeling the same but didnt want to touch it again.

[Anonymous No.1558004]

>>1558003
yup

[Anonymous No.1558034]

how is this going? I feel something's wrong but can't tell what

[Anonymous No.1558043]

>>1558034
His chin isn't edgy enough. The way you portray it it's soft and rounded, when in reality it isn't. Also, his jawline is curved in your drawing, if you observe the reference you will see that it is actually straight

[Anonymous No.1558045]

>>1558034
Also, your hairline is more reciding than his, so he looks bald.

[Anonymous No.1558046]

>>1558034
the forhead is a bit bulbous, on the ref its narrower, and the line of the jaw is straight on the ref, yours is a bit curved

[Anonymous No.1558050]

>>1557864
>>1557631
thanks for the interest anon, here's an update. need to draw back in places.

[Anonymous No.1558051]

>>1557527
go and study clouds again because those are not clouds
>>1557697
finish it first and then we'll talk
>>1557732
i think you need to revisit your composition and block in some thumbnails
>>1557838
you need to start from the beginning and get a good grasp of the fundamentals first. that means drawing basic 3d shapes and then translating your skills into value drawings.
>>1557945
i don't know what to say man, this looks like a pile of shit

[Anonymous No.1558060]

wrokin on another value study

[Anonymous No.1558064]

>>1558060
goodo almost looks like a photoshop filter

[Anonymous No.1558067]

>>1558051
>i don't know what to say man, this looks like a pile of shit
that's not a crit, if you can't say anything to help the man, don't say anything at all, it just oozes jealousy when people hate for no reason or cant explain why they hate.

[Anonymous No.1558079]

>>1558043
>>1558045
>>1558046
thanks you all! also update
>>1558034

[Anonymous No.1558085]

>>1558067
>y-y---y-y-y-you must be j--jj-jj-j-j-j-jealous-s-s-s-s-s

[Anonymous No.1558089]

WIP Sketchbook Mobile using my retarded fingers. I dont normally draw but I'm happy with where this is going, I know I really need to fix the legs, also shitty proportions and light

[Anonymous No.1558091]

>>1558085
>that's not a crit, if you can't say anything to help the man, don't say anything at all,
statement still stands

[Anonymous No.1558118]

Gave Falconet a try, the angle is a bit different, but that's the ref basically.

[Anonymous No.1558119]

>>1558118
legs are way too small

[Anonymous No.1558131]

>>1558119
Oh yes, you're right. He's somewhat of a fatass though.

[Anonymous No.1558133]

>>1558131
They still look too small. I think the right hand is too fat and large, and the upper left is a bit wide.

[Anonymous No.1558134]

>>1558118

feel like it's too early for you to diverge from the ref this much

[Anonymous No.1558135]

>>1558134
>>1558133
Aight, thanks, I'll redo it later with a ref on a screen. I always get this problem of messing up the exact poses and angles.

[Anonymous No.1558223]

Sketching around.

[Anonymous No.1558245]

is this funny?
again I am asking for help with the armour, please

[Anonymous No.1558262]

Bought a set of pencils recently. I've never drawn or taken an art class before, but I ended up drawing this and I'm very surprised and happy with myself.

[Anonymous No.1558268]

>>1558262
Not that bad at all for someone who doesn't draw, read the sticky at the top of the board page, and get those studies in.

Improve, ascend...ASCEND.

[Anonymous No.1558283]

>>1558245

i think it's lovely :)

about the armor, it would be best for you to look at real armor and decide for yourself how you would most adequately translate it into your flat style.

i don't think anyone showing you how he himself would do it, would benefit you at all.

[Anonymous No.1558296]

>>1558262
Why would anyone need to take an art class to copy a photo?

[Anonymous No.1558297]

>>1558296
Not him, but a lot of beginner classes teach basic 2d observational skills and teach people to see value. Not everyone does it naturally.

[Anonymous No.1558304]

[Anonymous No.1558305]

So I spend a week sketching only on paper, and when I come back to my tablet, it's like I lost all my Loomis. Only thing that doesn't suck donkey dick is gesture.

I don't know if I kindda lost my hand-screen coordination or I always sucked that amount of dick and I'm just realizing it now.

I don't know, it feels like I hit a wall with Loomis when I started studying the planes of the head. I'm planning on going through Hampton, since he starts with gestures and moves to the face later on.

[Anonymous No.1558306]

>>1558262
>and happy with myself.
Why?

[Anonymous No.1558310]

>>1558306
you know some people actually enjoy when they make the best of their skill

[Anonymous No.1558312]

>>1558310
>you know some people actually enjoy when they make the best of their skill
I don't think he/she was though.

It's boring. You don't have to pave the way, so to speak, but it gets boring looking at the same shit that people put all over Facebook because they like to draw when they are high.

[Anonymous No.1558314]

>>1558060
World class. Wish I had thought of it.

[Anonymous No.1558317]

>>1557740
It seems like you're being ham handed with the "imagery" of your drawing.

She has weird looking wings, like an angel or whatever. That's cool, so she is supposed to be "pure" or whatever.

Then you have lingerie. So she's supposed to be a "sexy angel saving a baby during a tornado".

That's an ok thought, but you don't have to use such blatant symbols to get that image.

[Anonymous No.1558367]

I suck

[Anonymous No.1558373]

>>1558367
Now.

[Anonymous No.1558378]

Can I play with you guys in this thread?

I'm working on this clay head, got till friday to finish it.

First time I've worked with clay since like, grade 5.

I'm suffering from getting a different perspective on the drawings etc when I take a photo of it.

Not sure if I am fooled by the camera or if I actually get a fresh perspective on the creation.

[gumby No.1558379]

giving a try at autoportrait. from a mirror. Crits welcomed !

[Anonymous No.1558385]

>>1558379
are you from colombia?

[gumby No.1558397]

>>1558385
no lol, i am from canadia, ive got some mixed European genes however

[Anonymous No.1558398]

>>1558378
you are smoothing too soon, be rough, add "bits" lump it together slowely. don't ever consider one portion "finished".
its either all finished or not at all.
be looser.

[Anonymous No.1558406]

>>1558398
Yeah, it's a lesson I've learned. I got some more progress on is since that photo. And I tend to scrape stuff away more than adding, then I smoothen it out automatically.

I might have bitten off more than I can chew.

[Anonymous No.1558410]

I feel rather stuck. I started adding value in gray and black but I have no idea how to color under it so I've been just painting on top. The anatomy from the chin down is also bothering me.

[Anonymous No.1558411]

>>1558305

Those proportions seem a bit off, the torso is way too long. That or the legs are too short.

[Anonymous No.1558413]

Critique please

[Anonymous No.1558414]

>>1558378
>using water

oh man... why would you do that?

[Anonymous No.1558417]

>>1558413

Torso/arm/waist proportion is short.

[Anonymous No.1558418]

>>1558417
What do you mean? A redline would be appreciated.

[Anonymous No.1558444]

I think this is the first somewhat acceptable thing I have created digitally. How is my perspective etc looking?

[Anonymous No.1558451]

>>1558444
Nice Abraham Lincoln portrait.

[Anonymous No.1558454]

No-ref portrait thingy!

[Anonymous No.1558455]

>>1558451
I see it.

[Anonymous No.1558462]

>>1557504
>Lower the opacity of your brush

lol what pleb does that anymore? Apart from of course professional concept artists who have been painting digitally for years and before pen pressure was invented and are just used to lowering the opacity

[Anonymous No.1558463]

I tried to do a clean block-in, dark to light etc, but it ended up just like usual.

[Anonymous No.1558468]

>>1558463

I can't stop staring at that foot.

[Anonymous No.1558471]

>>1557733
>assuming someone uses layers

pleb

[Anonymous No.1558470]

>>1558463
Why block in dark to light? Just block in the average value of each main mass, and then extend the range where necessary.

Your image is very dark over all, likely because of your approach.

[Anonymous No.1558474]

>>1558471
Are you implying using layers is bad?

[Anonymous No.1558476]

>>1557732
Needs more cute lolis flying about in cat-like attire.

[Anonymous No.1558477]

>>1558454
All your portraits look same-face, and god damn do you always have to make the colour curves so extreme? Or do you actually just paint with so much contrast?

[Anonymous No.1558480]

>>1558474
Of course not, but noobs always tend to assume that it's better to have more layers and don't try to paint on the one layer most of the time

[Anonymous No.1558481]

>>1558477
I usually paint pretty high contrast but I realized I overdid it in this one. Did a revision a moment after I uploaded this.

I don't know whether it's positive or negative that you recognize my shit though.

[Anonymous No.1558494]

>>1558481
Speaking of high contrast.
Did the last bit of this today as well. Leaving it as is now

[Anonymous No.1558499]

>>1558468
sorry, I hope it's better now

>>1558470
Oh, I didn't notice that photoshop did that thing when it saves darker from greyscale. Here's a properly saved one.

[Anonymous No.1558515]

Was asked to draw a comic in manga style for a local comic company. This is the first time I've ever applied screentones, but there's gotta be an easier way of doing this.

[Adm No.1558522]

>>1558494
A nice touch would be to incorporate dog symbolism into the damask pattern on the wall

[Anonymous No.1558541]

>>1558060
>>1557800
>>1557541

You're like the digital Jenny Saville of dicks.

How come you only (seem to) draw dicks?

[Anonymous No.1558544]

>>1558515
can't you attach the tones to a brush like a patterned texture?

[Anonymous No.1558554]

>>1557390
Like the other anon said you need to be a lot bolder with your lighting. At the moment it's all very generic soft-shaded spheres with flat textures, like we're looking at a comparison of Saturnian and Jovian moons or something. The steel needs to be much more shiny (you never seen a ball bearing before?), the human skin needs rim lighting and a less "scratched" texture. The ice is almost there, well done. For the alien robotic, maybe think H R Geiger, or the Halo aliens?

>>1557502
Lacking contrast overall. Push the values; you've almost completely ignored the light in the left of he face and across the forehead. You also managed to completely change the lip, eye and eyebrow shapes.

>>1557527
The lighting of the clouds (especially their edges) is really weird, especially when set against that oddly dark sky.

>>1557539
That's really good.

[Anonymous No.1558579]

>>1558544
IDK. I know there's a textured brush, but its not consistent like taking the whole texture and pasting it on a section and erasing the parts you dont need

[Anonymous No.1558586]

>>1558579
You can use the bucket tool to fill in with textures.
Make a new image, make your texture, go to edit>define new pattern
Then go to your main image, use the bucket tool, and set it to "fill pattern". Then select the pattern you made

[Anonymous No.1558588]

>>1558586
Sorry that's only in photoshop though

[Anonymous No.1558594]

>>1557480
I'm a different guy and decided to work on it in pencil.

[Anonymous No.1558595]

>>1558594
Can't see the subtle pencil strokes, damn camera.

[Anonymous No.1558600]

>>1558262
>never drawn....
why lie?

[Adm No.1558632]

>>1558131
Youre subconsciously making the leg shorter bc its so close to the edge of the format, Give it a little breathing room and learn to read the negative space as a shape too

[Adm No.1558634]

>>1558515
Paint it all in with solid grey scale. Once finished:

Image>Mode>Greyscale
Image>Mode>Bitmap
-300 px/inch
-Method:Halftone Screen
-(mess around with the Frequency until you get the dot size you want)

Remember to apply text afterward

[Anonymous No.1558648]

>>1558060
I've never seen someone improve as fast of you, value anon.

[Anonymous No.1558663]

>>1558312
>It's boring. You don't have to pave the way, so to speak, but it gets boring looking at the same shit that people put all over Facebook because they like to draw when they are high.

Don't drink and post.

[Anonymous No.1558664]

>>1558413
blaswave gone / 10
Try to think and make sense, wtf is going on here? A shell is falling from that shotgun, so he just shot, yet he wasn't even looking at whatever he was shooting at, and no sign of any recoil at all? Or is that reason he'd be falling on the left? You get the point, think about what's going on, and be coherent with it.

[Anonymous No.1558681]

man the thumbnail looks way better than the original

tear me apart?

[Anonymous No.1558684]

need some help

[Anonymous No.1558686]

>>1558681
Tear what? This sucks in every possible way, up to the file format, you obviously didn't put any effort, thinking, or purpose into this, and you'd want crits?

[Anonymous No.1558687]

[Anonymous No.1558688]

>>1558686
yes do it

[Anonymous No.1558689]

>>1558684
Use references, sticky, Loomis, fuck why don't you noobs lurk a bit before posting?

[Anonymous No.1558691]

>>1558689
to get others suggestions

do you post your art here? internet tough guy

[Anonymous No.1558693]

This was a detail quick study, any tips or critiques on improvments?

[Anonymous No.1558695]

>>1558688
You don't get it : there's nothing to give crits about here. Before anyone can give you crits that would help, you need to reach this minimal level where you have a little idea of what you're doing, and what you want to do. It's like asking for directions to someone in the street while being unable to tell them where you want to go. For someone to give you meaningful directions, you need to be able to decide where you want to go...

Read the fucking sticky, work a bit on the basics, then we'll talk.

[Anonymous No.1558697]

>>1558691
My art sucking won't make yours better, bro. I'm sorry if i offended you, i didn't mean "noob" as an insult, there's no shame in being a noob, we all were at one point.

[Anonymous No.1558698]

>>1558697
#brolo

[Os1 !!szJAwxIAiNf No.1558699]

>>1558693
I like it!

[Anonymous No.1558700]

>>1558697
spell it newb or even use the much friendlier newbie.

noob is the degenerate gamer insult spelling and people will almost never take it as anything else.

[Anonymous No.1558702]

>>1558700
All right, i get it, i'll even go for "beginner" from now on. Sorry again.

[Anonymous No.1558705]

>>1558699
Cheers

[Anonymous No.1558715]

>>1558697
Dude I wasn't even
>>1558684

But it did sounds mean

[gumby No.1558818]

cloth study

[Anonymous No.1558825]

>>1558378
Update.

Can't figure out what to do with the eyes.

And she looks too much like a boy, the character isn't THAT feminine afterall.

Anyone that can see a resemblance for a certain video game character?

[Anonymous No.1558827]

Woops, forgot to resize.

>>1558378
Update.

Not sure how I should fix the eyes, they just look wrong.

The character I made a portrait of isn't THAT feminine looking, so this looks too much like a boy.

Anyone that can see the resemblance of a certain female video game character?

[Anonymous No.1558855]

Far shot, but has anyone here ever joined a Japanese university club for drawing?
I just can't find any information about the clubs or circles, only found a "crafts club" by asking around. Just thinking there should also be one for drawing specifically... Just can't find it and no one seems to know >_<
Any help appreciated.

[Anonymous No.1558867]

>>1558827
Make a ball, put some lids over it, then burrow a much deeper hole for the iris so light won't reach in and it appears black. Look up Rodin's work, he handles eyes in a similar but more successful way.

[Anonymous No.1558884]

Finally getting the hang of these skulls a little bit, still a longggg way to go

any crits are appreciated, thanks everyone

[Anonymous No.1558887]

>>1558867
Making the eyes.. externally.. seems like something I can learn more from.

I was thinking of giving it a coat or two of white matte spray paint. Good/bad idea? Once it is dried that is.

[Anonymous No.1558894]

>>1558890
sorry i tried rotating it but i just got a mac and its being annoying (can't right click and rotate easily like windows)

thanks for the crit

[Anonymous No.1558897]

>>1558894
ill do it for you and you just delete it when you see i've done it k?

[Anonymous No.1558898]

Finally getting the hang of these skulls a little bit, still a longggg way to go

any crits are appreciated, thanks everyone

[Anonymous No.1558900]

>>1558897
<3

[Anonymous No.1558906]

>>1558898
anyway be more purposeful with your hatching.

a good way to get used to using hatches in a non-spammy manner is to consider the planes turning away from the light, then uniformly hatching only the most turned side-planes, the bottom planes and the corner-planes. if this is confusing ask and i'll draw you an eg.

but in general think about it as value not shading.

--there we go all sorted out sorta.

[Anonymous No.1558908]

>>1558686
If you are going to post something online, png is always better.

[Anonymous No.1558909]

>>1558906
Thanks man :)

I'll do another page of skulls in a bit and try to keep your advice in mind, I'll post results later

(btw i figured out how to rotate images now) lol

[Anonymous No.1558920]

[Anonymous No.1558923]

[Anonymous No.1558921]

[Anonymous No.1558929]

>>1558664
not the guy you're replying to, but it's a pump shotgun. The shell ejects when the shotgun is "pumped", not when it's shot.

[Anonymous No.1558936]

I tried to paint a bird

[Anonymous No.1558942]

>>1558663
>Don't drink and post.
It's true.

People draw this shit because it's relatively easy. Yes it does take practice to copy a photograph, or half of one as that anon did, but the value range is small so it flattens out on the face area of the half portrait, and he/she isn't learning anything from it.

I know that from experience, because I used to do the same thing.

[Anonymous No.1558943]

>>1558681
Try to vary the violet area a bit more, you could try using darker pigments to imply receding on the left and right. The valley area could use some more variation of pigment and value too. Try putting in some cast values. Moon light creates shadows too.

The upper half of the picture looks great in thumbnail because of the composition.

[Anonymous No.1558959]

>>1558936
Well sir, it looks like a bird, so I think you succeeded in your adventure.

[Anonymous No.1558968]

>>1558936
true. what about its feet?

[Anonymous No.1558974]

>>1558968
They weren't really visible in the ref I used so I ignored them. I had meant to post the ref but got distracted and forgot, here it is.

[Anonymous No.1558975]

quickie

[Anonymous No.1558981]

Help me /ic/

I'm trying to figure out the colors before i block in and there's already something wrong.

In case you were wondering it's some guy floating over fire and a beam of light is coming out of his chest.

[Anonymous No.1558982]

>>1558975
1. Push your values just a little bit
2. There should be some light coming onto him from his pipe.

[Anonymous No.1558990]

>>1558943
Thank you. Yeah I tried paying as much attention to saturation, as objects closer to you are more saturated than objects further from you?
It was a bit hard to not screw it up because some darker pigments would look too dark and saturated. Yeah I think I just need to study more than try to come something up out of my head.

[Anonymous No.1558992]

>>1558687
I hope that COM doesn't stand for commission.

[Anonymous No.1558997]

Just got back into digital art and would love some cnc on this.

[Anonymous No.1559010]

Please excuse the blurriness. It's the best I can do at the moment.

Probably one of my best drawings so far, though. I have trouble improving.

[Anonymous No.1559011]

>>1558997
Maybe put a tiny bit more shading or reflection on the icicles around the cave. Some of them, especially that one to the right of the cave, really kind of stand out too much and just look like a big line.

[Anonymous No.1559015]

>>1558594
you made her head hueg. Also, is it really that hard to rotate?

[Anonymous No.1559016]

>>1558687
1. study faces (she's horrifying)
2. study perspective, her legs and feet look especially off
3. do value studies before diving into color.

[Anonymous No.1559060]

It's like a 15 minute doodle, but what the heck.

[Anonymous No.1559106]

>>1559060
Needs moar loomises

[Anonymous No.1559111]

>>1558818

beautiful gumby.

but plz no more namefags? why the sudden influx of this shit

[Anonymous No.1559169]

>>1558818
Dunno what you are using as ref, but the value structure you have is all fucked. If you are using a pen drawing or engraving or something, realize that all the pure black they use does not translate to painting.

Anyways, when you jump with values so much you lose out on A) believability, B) readability and C) the local value is unclear. So all the shadows should be a LOT brighter--the only places it might approach black are a couple occlusion shadows in the deepest crevices.

[Anonymous No.1559170]

[Anonymous No.1559174]

[Anonymous No.1559177]

>>1558982
Cheers bro, Will do

[Anonymous No.1559180]

>>1558997
Do yourself a favour and stop using textured brushes until you get good, honestly for the first 10 seconds I had no clue what the fuck I was looking at, it's REALLY messy & muddy

[Anonymous No.1559181]

>>1559111
Becausthey want to feel special and think they will leave a mark on /ic/ or some shit, lmfao

[Anonymous No.1559219]

today I drew a horny lady.

thoughts?

[FiRez !!tndrCZJHE+I No.1559224]

>>1557521
Done with this, I better look for a tutorial about blending with SAI.

[Anonymous No.1559226]

I'm new to digital painting, trying to get used to the medium. I'll get to studies right after.

[Anonymous No.1559230]

[Anonymous No.1559231]

Took me eleven hours

[Anonymous No.1559234]

>>1559013
cool ref

[Anonymous No.1559240]

>>1558898
>>1558909
only had time to do one more this afternoon, will do other tonight

tried to keep the crit i got in mind and be more deliberate with the hatching

[Anonymous No.1559242]

>>1558898
>>1558909
only had time to do one more this afternoon, will do other tonight

tried to keep the crit i got in mind and be more deliberate with the hatching

[Anonymous No.1559256]

>>1558827
>Anyone that can see the resemblance of a certain female video game character?
I guess it is supposed to be Ellen Page.

[Anonymous No.1559265]

>>1559231
How do you render skintones so well? Do you consider subsurface scattering when doing it?

[Anonymous No.1559304]

>>1557539
oh he jelly

[Anonymous No.1559311]

halp

[Anonymous No.1559312]

>>1559265
lol.

[Anonymous No.1559317]

>>1559234

HERPDERP THE COLORS ARE OFF

[Anonymous No.1559327]

>>1559311

if you want to show size, FUCKING compose the shot in a semi-creative manner. jesus fuck i see that shit composition on 90% of creative work on here.

seriously.

>pic related

yes exaggeration. yes. but it illustrates my point.

[Anonymous No.1559333]

>>1559327

[Anonymous No.1559337]

>>1559327
I shall take this into consideration, but how do I make them look huge while not placing the viewer right under them?

[gumby No.1559335]

>>1559169
thanks, really helpful. Looked a lot like the one on the right until i used photoshop auto contrast at the end lol

[Anonymous No.1559343]

>>1559337
Change the "horizon" or eye level of the viewer. What you need to do is place the eye level of the viewer closer to ground level.

When you go through a Loomis book, you will usually find a part that talks about hanging figures on the horizon as a figure perspective short cut.

[Anonymous No.1559413]

for serious

[Anonymous No.1559461]

I think the redlection is off, among other problems of course

[Anonymous No.1559465]

that "fun with a pencil" book suggested in the sticky seems to be a book on how to draw old jews. Is this some kind of a goy trap?

[Anonymous No.1559470]

>>1559465
Just go through with it. The first chapter is basically just there to make you comfortable with a pencil.

[Anonymous No.1559472]

finished this yesterday,

can /ic/ give me any advice on drawing faces?

[Anonymous No.1559479]

>>1559472
I mainly draw portraits.
So what you do is basically this
http://gyazo.com/cf1def7c2291fc78870a1d3ec28da32a.png

Make sure you get the lines right in the middle of the basic shape, from there you can work out the nose, eyes, eyebrows and lips.
Always practice with ref images.

So here's a portrait I did

[Anonymous No.1559495]

>>1559472
construction, construction, construction. drawing anything is just a matter of learning how they sit in 3d space, and in order to that you have to have a good grasp on drawing form first.
>>1559479
why did you post your work it hardly has anything to do with your advice

[Anonymous No.1559518]

Finished this yesterday with chalk, charcoal, ink, and whatever else I could get my hands on. Drawing from observation, also a life model. It feels a bit all over the place, any way I could make it a bit more focused?

[Anonymous No.1559521]

What do you think?

[Anonymous No.1559527]

>>1559495
Since its a drawing thread. I thought someone would give a proper comment on it. I never said pic was related

[Anonymous No.1559528]

>>1559521
very nice

[Anonymous No.1559535]

>>1558034
>Trying to capture Steve Vai in two dimensions

Top kek.

[Anonymous No.1559536]

>>1559521
Good face, good hair, good shading.
The body looks out of proportion to the head though, too small.

[Anonymous No.1559539]

>>1558936
>Rob_Liefeld_Bird.jpg

[Anonymous No.1559541]

I can't be bothered resizing these, but here's something I'm doing for fun in my downtime.

http://tomcruiseis.tumblr.com/

[Anonymous No.1559542]

>>1558034
Looks like the cheekbone's shadow. Needs to curve up slightly?

[Anonymous No.1559543]

Hey, /ic/ i'm currently working on this airstrip thingy, but i'm pretty sure the perspective is fucked up. Should i try to fix this or start over?

[Anonymous No.1559548]

>>1559539
He doesn't have a shitload of pouches though.

[Anonymous No.1559558]

>>1559224
There's the water tool, but SAPALO is all you need.

I have my back pen button set to eyedropper.

[Anonymous No.1559563]

>>1559548
Now it does.

[Anonymous No.1559567]

I could use a red line, particularly on the lags of the engineer. Other help/ suggestions would also be greatly appreciated

[Anonymous No.1559569]

>>1559567
* I meant legs

[Anonymous No.1559572]

>>1559567
>That reflection in the scope

Jesus H Christ that is genuinely unsettling.

Good job, anon.

[Anonymous No.1559573]

>>1559572
thank you. I went through 2-3 different expressions before I settled with that one.

[Anonymous No.1559574]

I just felt need to finish it

[Anonymous No.1559578]

>>1559574
Oh God not again.

[Anonymous No.1559581]

>>1559574
dear god, there's enough composition to make 3 separate images. Other then that, it's okay

[Anonymous No.1559594]

i tried to paint the girl from the reference thread.

[Anonymous No.1559593]

>>1559563
Perfect.

And I actually like Rob Liefeld and his art.

[Anonymous No.1559595]

>>1559594
MFW I can't do anything like this. Where the fuck is my concentration and patience?

[Anonymous No.1559602]

>>1559595

Draw something you enjoy drawing, but draw it well. That's what I do.

[Anonymous No.1559603]

Question for digital art programs: Sai or Photoshop? What do you use and why?

[f No.1559604]

Hey guys,

im painting this for a playing cards project, and each artist get to paint a card. Mine is 7 of Diamonds.

I'm quite happy with the concept, but i wish i could make it look more painterly...

Any tips?

Any critiques are welcome

[f No.1559609]

>>1559604
and please, nevermind that lame background.

[Anonymous No.1559612]

>>1559563

fucking lost it

[Anonymous No.1559616]

>>1559593
Thanks.

I don't mind Rob. There's very little difference between his work and Kirby's or even early Steranko before he learned how to draw/paint.

Always makes me laugh when people who worship Kirby froth at the mouth with hatred for Rob.

[Anonymous No.1559636]

>>1559602
Well, I found some interesting reference here and spent a bit over an hour painting this. There are times when I find surprisingly good motivation to do something.

Is this any good? What should I do better, what to change, what to keep?

[Anonymous No.1559642]

>>1559636
Your values overall are great but your brush strokes look ugly as hell. The nose needs work and attention. The eyes are decent. There is too much space between the hair line on the left and the eyes. The scarf is still outlined and stands out from the rest of the image.

[Anonymous No.1559744]

>>1559636
You dont just do a shit drawing and ask what you should change about it, you actually have to learn the fundamentals

[Anonymous No.1559747]

Hows muh composition so far?

[Anonymous No.1559768]

Took me 3 days to just finish the shading.

[Anonymous No.1559779]

new thread

>>1559773

[Anonymous No.1559797]

>>1559574
What the actual fuck is going on in here

[FiRez !!tndrCZJHE+I No.1559833]

>>1559558
Thanks Anon, I will look it up :)

[Anonymous No.1560289]

>>1559797
what do you tink?

[Anonymous No.1560390]

>>1558908
You are completely wrong.

[Thank you. My basics are weak (...) No.1560752]

>>1557741
>>1557753

[Anonymous No.1561807]

>>1560752
I recommend typing your message in the comment field.