How does /ic/ feel about this character design?

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Anonymous Fri Sep 6 13:04:02 2013 No.1542059 [Reply] [Original]

How does /ic/ feel about this character design?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 13:07:31 2013 No.1542060 Given the japanese context I'm perfectly fine with it

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 13:09:59 2013 No.1542061 Tis shit sickens me: this design makes no fucking sense on the functionnal level. As always it's pure shit with lots of boobs and very few clothes that is supposed to attract /v/irgins

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 13:11:30 2013 No.1542062 >>1542059 I love it, except for the two red Flashbangs or whatever, would be better if replaced with black thermal grenades or standard frag grendades. The red clashes to much with the green. other than that i would give it a soldi 10/10 she is sexy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 13:11:59 2013 No.1542063 >>1542061 JIDF plz go

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 13:13:00 2013 No.1542065 It does look a bit silly, let's be real

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 13:13:30 2013 No.1542064 >>1542062 The flashbangs are symbolism for her ovaries

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 13:18:00 2013 No.1542068 >>1542061 faggots who go full potatoe about realism when this shit is ENTERTAINMENT sicken me. i don't want ugly bitches in my games/movies. gtfo you clown.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 13:18:30 2013 No.1542067 >>1542059 What am I supposed to feel? Me, personally I find it boring I've seen this cliche overly sking showy-exposed female designs so many times. Next!

Anonymous Fri Sep 6 13:22:00 2013 No.1542070

>>1542068
Stupid faggot, the fact that it's entertainment doesn't mean that this design cans be as shitty as it is. you can still have beautiful babes in your fucking games and movies without having them be half naked in a parody of a paramilitar uniform. Fuck you

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 13:22:29 2013 No.1542069 boring and cliché, fairly good execution

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 13:30:30 2013 No.1542073 >>1542061 >>1542064 >>1542068 >>1542070 Holy crap that one Anon who said for /v/ to go away was right...

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 13:42:00 2013 No.1542078 >>1542067 This guy makes a good point. Make her an actual human being. With a story, emotions, problems, strengths, etc. As a character model she isn't bad. As a "real" human she isn't believable.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 13:51:59 2013 No.1542082 Impractical on a realistic level, but that defeats the point of the entertainment industry. Overall it's another trite Tomb Raider knockoff.

Anonymous Fri Sep 6 13:58:00 2013 No.1542089 [DELETED]

>>1542061
The voice actress has said that her outfit makes sense in context, what that context is has yet to be revealed. It's quite likely she's related to another character from MGS3, The End who can photosynthesise.

Artists of all people should know better than to criticise a medium they aren't immersed in, for shame.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 14:00:00 2013 No.1542090 can't fap to this the face looks ugly

Anonymous Fri Sep 6 14:00:00 2013 No.1542091

>>1542061
The voice actress has said that her outfit makes sense in context, what that context is has yet to be revealed. It's quite likely she's related to another character from MGS3 who was also a sniper, The End who could use his skin to photosynthesise.

Artists of all people should know better than to criticise a medium they aren't immersed in, for shame.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 14:01:00 2013 No.1542094 looks retarded I love sexy armor and designs but this looks like a whore on a street corner

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 14:03:01 2013 No.1542097 >>1542078 This.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 14:05:00 2013 No.1542100 >>1542068 >>tips fedora

Anonymous Fri Sep 6 14:13:00 2013 No.1542102

It looks like something typically from konami these days.

Completely to the point and unashamed. It works for their intents and purposes. I feel like she could've been a little more muscular though, to sell the 'badass military chick' thing a little more.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 14:21:31 2013 No.1542108 >>1542059 strange expression, she looks a sort of sad and retarded

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 14:27:30 2013 No.1542112 >>1542108 It's a very normal facial expression, nothing extreme, just a blank slate for a typical character design, maybe it's you who is a little bit autistic / retarded?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 14:32:00 2013 No.1542117 >>1542078 What is that even supposed to mean? How should a picture convey the fact that she's a "real" human being?

Anonymous Fri Sep 6 14:38:30 2013 No.1542120

>>1542117
Not that Anon, but when I see this figure I see no evidence to suggest any trace of character, rather I see an object spewing out sex appeal and nothing more.

This would be better debated on /pol/ if you ask me, and if it makes any difference no I am not a feminist nor am I a woman though I do feel a little bit of the frustration some might experience from this design.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 14:43:00 2013 No.1542123 >You can't judge Rothko/Pollock/Duchamp without context >Judges character design without context Well done /ic/

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 14:45:30 2013 No.1542124 >Same faggots who say "You can't judge Rothko/Pollock/Duchamp without context" >Proceeds to judge character design without context Well done /ic/

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 14:46:59 2013 No.1542125 I'm okay with the small bikini thing, but the string tanga looks retarded. If it was hotpants+ pantyhose it'd be great.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 14:48:01 2013 No.1542126 >>>/pol/20104215

>>	Komodo !ozOtJW9BFA Fri Sep 6 15:08:30 2013 No.1542131 >>1542059 i feel that i need to use that pose as a reference for my own character design later in the future.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 15:17:30 2013 No.1542137 >>1542124 Nice blanket statement faggot.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 15:21:30 2013 No.1542141 File: 16 KB, 220x220, KojimaCasualCloseUp[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] it's alright and erotic

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 15:23:00 2013 No.1542144 File: 30 KB, 427x640, Metal-Gear-Solid-V-Quiet-Actress[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The model is fucking gorgeous. Kojima knows how to pick them

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 15:27:30 2013 No.1542146 at least she'll keep cool in the sweltering African heat.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 15:49:01 2013 No.1542161 Its Metal Gear Solid. the series has gone more and more over the top since the first one. Clothes probably disrupt her nano machines or something goofy like that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 15:59:30 2013 No.1542173 >>1542112 >maybe it's you who is a little bit autistic / retarded? If you get so uptight for a simple critic to that character your life must be really terrible. Do you have a girlfriend or a decent job? I want to help you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 16:00:30 2013 No.1542175 It's MGS, this is what they've done for longer than you can remember. >>1542061 Go away SRS.

Anonymous Fri Sep 6 16:33:47 2013 No.1542190

>>1542059
Someone said uncanny valley. Maybe in the eyes? But I could not agree. She looks very cute and very real. The costume design is ehhh. And there were seens where she is captured but does not get raped? "her tongue is cut out" She is dressed like eye-candy for men. Zero of her clothing is armor. It makes my stomach churn, feminists would be all over this. And I really can't defend it. But she looks so cute, I would be her white knight, any day.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 16:38:19 2013 No.1542194 >>1542190 >Zero of her clothing is armor. She's a sniper, not a fantasy paladin.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 16:46:18 2013 No.1542201 >>/v/ This isn't drawing. This isn't drawing at all.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 16:46:47 2013 No.1542200 >>1542194 kevlar you cunt

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 16:49:21 2013 No.1542204 >>1542073 That was me. They don't even draw they just come here because they fancy themselves experts on vidya art.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 16:51:20 2013 No.1542205 >>1542200 You know this design doesn't bother me since her skin changes colors. What bothers me is that it was posted here.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 16:54:20 2013 No.1542207 File: 744 KB, 964x768, 1378499233110.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1542059 just noticed she wears a fucking thong the lack of cameltoe is disappointing

Anonymous Fri Sep 6 16:54:20 2013 No.1542210
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kind of a boring cosplay, kojima. why are sexy characters always just variations of boob window and no clothing? how are straight dudes not bored of the yet?
>>1542201
>drawing
>still relevant

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 17:13:51 2013 No.1542214 >>1542144 >how to pick em hue

Anonymous Fri Sep 6 17:37:51 2013 No.1542217

>>1542059
i've seen this on /pol/, /tv/ and /v/. is there some guy samefagging this shit? theres nothing wrong the with the design, the character can change skin colour and she is fighting in a desert environment, theres nothing wrong with minimal clothing in 45 degree heat

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 17:40:50 2013 No.1542218 >>1542217 Uhm, this topic came here and I started it on /pol/ and it was quite the heated debate if I may add. Just because you see the same topic pop up doesn't necessarily mean its the same person doing it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 17:43:52 2013 No.1542219 >>1542218 I just find it odd, quiets design was revealed months ago, and its not like shes the first video game character with revealing clothing

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 17:44:51 2013 No.1542221 >>1542210 >how are straight dudes not bored of the yet? Unfortunately for fat, ugly feminists like yourself, I don't think straight guys are ever going to suddenly get bored of sexy, hot ladies in revealing outfits. Sorry, girlfriend.

>>	posting from a flower Fri Sep 6 17:49:20 2013 No.1542225 i fucking love it its japanese motherfuckers go shove your irrelevant cultural shit down your gullet. if you still need me ill be beating the meat to this glorious chick

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 18:15:21 2013 No.1542232 >>1542207 This is good though. It means the whores will be cosplaying as Quiet for the next 5 years.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 18:29:27 2013 No.1542234 >>1542221 >>this blanket statement. >>OP likes variation in Women's wear/ character design >>must be a SJW

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 18:30:55 2013 No.1542235 >>1542232 implying they are whores just because they like a video game charterers art style. >2093

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 18:55:57 2013 No.1542247 >>1542210 >dudes >taste

Anonymous Fri Sep 6 19:18:30 2013 No.1542262
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I have to agree, the outfit is pretty retarded. Why leave anything to the imagination? Just take it off and be done with it.

Do you really believe that a real person would dress like this? It's not practical at all, just there for the bewbs.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 19:23:00 2013 No.1542267 >>1542262 Good thing she's not a real person then, huh.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 19:25:59 2013 No.1542269 >>1542267 Of course, but it should still be somewhat believable. Would you prefer a male character wearing the same thing, minus the top?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 19:29:00 2013 No.1542272 File: 96 KB, 600x480, lara-croft-lawrence-tomb-raider-male-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1542269

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 19:33:17 2013 No.1542275 >>1542272 Lara wears a shirt though. But you get my point.

Anonymous Fri Sep 6 20:13:04 2013 No.1542292

>>1542091
so why the torn pantyhose? the end wore camo, which made a lot more sense for a sniper.

I guess since she's a sniper in the desert she's just really devoted to getting a tan.

It's kojima though so there might be a (semi) legitimate reason, but more than likely it's just sex appeal.

I like the MGS series, and it's obviously not meant to be taken too seriously given how ridiculous it's been in the past. If he is going for a serious character design though this is far beyond retarded no matter how you slice it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 20:22:34 2013 No.1542296 >all those neo-/ic/ threads Fucking /v/ and /pol/ ruining everything.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 22:03:24 2013 No.1542351 File: 30 KB, 500x353, 06hollysummers11_2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1542059 I feel like No More Heroes did it better.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 22:06:24 2013 No.1542353 Knowing Kojima, the poor girl has been literally or figuratively raped so hard she doesn't even know what modesty is. Would be kind of weird and artistically brave if BB taught her how to dress unlike a dick slave.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 22:13:23 2013 No.1542356 >>1542275 >>1542272 But when i go outdoor rock climbing girls do dress like laura croft...

Anonymous Fri Sep 6 22:41:54 2013 No.1542368

>>1542059
Girls already dress like this though, leggings sports braw etc... nothing but degenerates out here in Cali though. even the Thong line isn't out of place in modern Socal.

Imagine what it will be like int 10-29 years from now? Imagine if it is some girl who is punk rock and cyborged out and kills peeps for a living?

I think this is not only a tottally plausible design but a good one.

The lack of body armor is a dumb reason to call it a design flaw. The best armor of today can't do much against WW2 let alone 7th or 8th generation firearms.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 22:46:54 2013 No.1542369 >>1542351 Pretty much this.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 6 23:21:54 2013 No.1542384 >>1542368 why aren't all the dudes topless and sporting banana hammocks then? if body armor is worth fuck all, nobody should wear it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 7 00:40:23 2013 No.1542418 Sense the game is not out yet, no proper assessment can be made of the character design and how it relates to the character, the overall setting and narrative of the game.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 7 01:14:42 2013 No.1542442 >>1542384 Because it makes the soldiers braver anon. because it makes the soldiers braver. like children hiding under a blanket.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 7 01:15:14 2013 No.1542444 >>1542418 exactly maybe she is an undercover hooker working with that gun smugling black pimp. than she has to suit up for combat on short notice.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 7 01:24:45 2013 No.1542453 >>1542444 Nailed it!

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 7 03:11:59 2013 No.1542498 >>1542384 Raiden

a strong nerd who doesnt need (...) Sat Sep 7 03:59:20 2013 No.1542512 [DELETED]

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i just can't wait r34. then again i hate games that blatantly treat me as a horny manchild consumerwhore and kinda ruin a good setting by this (see bioshock infinite). keep skimpy outfits in porn or whatever. also #fuckfeminism

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 7 04:34:40 2013 No.1542518 >>1542512 >hashtag What are you even doing here

>>	a strong nerd who doesnt need (...) Sat Sep 7 04:36:40 2013 No.1542519 >>1542518 it's not shitposting if it's ironic

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 7 06:10:32 2013 No.1542535 >>1542059 What has this to do with art? It's like in the same place where people can talk of sculpture a guy can post a Barbie and ask for critics.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 7 08:11:40 2013 No.1542561 >>1542292 It rips when she is tortured through electrical shocks

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 7 09:17:17 2013 No.1542576 >>1542535 >entertainment design >not /ic/

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 7 12:21:52 2013 No.1542649 >>1542068 >i don't want ugly bitches in my games/movies. I don't want ugly dudes in my games/movies, but they always seem to be an excess of them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 7 12:38:53 2013 No.1542658 >>1542649 Yeah, as villains, comic relief or side characters / NPCs. There's nothing wrong with having ugly women in those roles either. The thing is that feminists actually want ugly women to be main characters.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 7 12:53:01 2013 No.1542665 File: 15 KB, 214x314, MV5BMTc1OTc2MTgyMV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNDU0NzU1Mg@@._V1._SY314_CR20,0,214,314_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1542272 Do women even find that monstrosity attractive?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 7 13:10:01 2013 No.1542674 File: 293 KB, 455x413, laughingFrequently.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1542665 Of course not, then it would be a fair comparison

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 7 13:19:02 2013 No.1542684 >>1542272 He has no top and they've shrunk the shorts. If you put him in a true equivalent of Lara's "sexualised" outfit he'd look like a fairly normal dude, if a bit campy. False fucking equivalence. This is why feminism can fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 7 13:26:19 2013 No.1542686 >>1542368 >I think this is not only a tottally plausible design but a good one. For a SNIPER in the middle of AFGHANISTAN?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 7 13:38:05 2013 No.1542691 >>1542686 Does it fucking matter? I hope the feminists come for you next >"You have a problem with us covering up Bouguereau's gratuitously objectified females? What are you a misogynist?"

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 7 13:46:04 2013 No.1542700 >>1542691 >Does context matter in character design? YES.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 7 14:01:33 2013 No.1542705 What design? It's just a handful of cliches slapped together.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 7 14:04:07 2013 No.1542706 >>1542700 Well to build upon that the creator of Quiet is saying that this skimpy design does serve some sort of practical purpose within context in Metal Gear 5

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>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 7 15:12:42 2013 No.1542746 >>1542059 >>1542061 In case people don't know, Kojima wanted that character to be as eoritc as possible so people could not cosplay her. It would increase the value of merchandise they sold

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 7 15:14:11 2013 No.1542748 >>1542746 whoops, not Kojima. His boss

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 7 15:57:29 2013 No.1542774 >>1542746 >women >not taking the opportunity to dress as slutty as possible under a legitimate reason such as "I'm cosplaying" His boss didn't think that through.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 7 16:02:57 2013 No.1542777 >>1542746 are you kidding me? This is so easy to cosplay... combat boots patterned tights and a bikini

Anonymous Sat Sep 7 16:04:29 2013 No.1542778
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>>1542748
kojima is his boss. this doesn't strike me as cosplay inspiring because, for one thing, there's essentially no outfit but more importantly because success in this kind of minimal costume-cosplay basically comes down to looking exactly like the character.
it'll interesting to see how sexualized figures do against cool designs and established characters.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 7 17:00:48 2013 No.1542801 File: 61 KB, 520x624, did you rike it.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >yfw Kojima's just playing feminists and white knights like a fiddle for publicity

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 7 17:38:05 2013 No.1542819 >>1542801 oh dang

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 7 20:26:31 2013 No.1542907 >>1542746 see >>1542713 He says he wants people to cosplay her. >>1542801 >It's totally deep guys you'll see really Kojima seriously you ain't that good a writer you can even keep a consistent tone across a single game

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 7 20:44:01 2013 No.1542912 >>1542059 Kojimas style was to always push the Edgy. he has succeeded. the design is edgy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 7 20:56:20 2013 No.1542913 File: 16 KB, 480x360, 0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1542912 I'd like to edge my cock into that design, if you know what I mean.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 7 20:57:51 2013 No.1542914 it appeals to my dick but not the gamer or designer in me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 7 21:32:21 2013 No.1542919 Her face is absolutely hideous Kojima. Why would they put such a real face on a cartoon body?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 7 21:39:40 2013 No.1542928 >>1542919 How is that a cartoon body you goddamn retard?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 7 23:15:11 2013 No.1542952 >>1542919 She looks average, her face looks slightly too chubby compared to her body but that's probably because she got her tongue cut out. polite sage for not drawing

Anonymous Sun Sep 8 00:03:40 2013 No.1542973

I'll admit, I'm not an artist and I normally don't go in /ic/, but is it normal for you guys to defend scantily clad fantasy characters like this? I'm not a feminist at all, but this character's outfit is terrible and so unrealistic and objectifying that I don't see how anyone could defend it.

Anonymous Sun Sep 8 00:19:39 2013 No.1542980

>>1542973
Most would agree with you. Consider that the freedom to design anything you want under the sun is a human right. Regardless of what a feminist thinks is ok or not.

As artists we have a great appreciation of the human form. Regardless of gender, you might say we objectify, because we have a great appreciation of the human figure. Also, just a different view point on this. If I were a young attractive woman, I'd love to show off my legs, breasts and abdominal definition. I'm not excusing the clothing, yet I will always defend the freedom to create.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 8 00:26:12 2013 No.1542982 >>1542973 do you even metal gear?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 8 01:17:52 2013 No.1543003 Looks retarded as hell

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 8 01:18:23 2013 No.1543004 >>1542980 >If I were a young attractive woman, I'd love to show off my legs, breasts and abdominal definition No. No you wouldn't

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 8 01:20:54 2013 No.1543005 >>1542684 You just dont get it do you?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 8 01:21:23 2013 No.1543006 Is it just me or do her legs seem really short..

Anonymous Sun Sep 8 02:48:43 2013 No.1543031

>>1543004
If I worked out and took care of my body I would. If I didn't have a conventional life style. I could wear lots of different cloth types. I wouldn't even care about other people, it's what I think.

You do not speak for me, as I do not speak for women. I only give you a perspective. If I had a great body I'd wear clothes that show off my physique. And that doesn't mean I'd dress like Quiet. Which is probably what you are reacting to.

Anonymous Sun Sep 8 03:27:05 2013 No.1543039

>>1542973
People are opposed to the knee-jerk reaction of "that's sexist" that video games have been plagued by recently.

There's a certain irony here in feminists judging a character solely on her looks based on a couple of stills and 4 seconds from the trailer despite both Kojima and the characters VA (who was initially shocked by the clothing choice) saying that her outfit makes sense in context.

Anonymous Sun Sep 8 04:05:35 2013 No.1543050

>>1542059
>/v/ just aking this thread just to circlejerk their antifeminism

The design is dumb on both a practical and visual factor. Whether or not what's been predicted and revealed about her character stays consistent, it's still looks mediocre and generic. The super model pose with legs out and hand on her hip combined with that dumpy face makes makes it seem like who ever designed this wanted to convey too much but ends up with little to nothing except incompetence (character and designer).
So the character design looks bad.

Anonymous Sun Sep 8 04:27:35 2013 No.1543052
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>>1542059
>How does /ic/ feel about this character design?

How does /ic/ feel about this character design?

And yeah, it's Sean Connery (movie is named Zardoz).

No seriously, this design is generic as fuck. And it's no more sexist than what I could find in older or recent vidya games. Just look up Dragon's Crown sorceress for an example.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 8 04:29:36 2013 No.1543054 >>1542059 >This is what I was wearing, I dare you to tell me I was asking for it

Anonymous Sun Sep 8 06:25:03 2013 No.1543080

>>1543050
>The design is dumb on both a practical and visual factor.

Stopped reading. You're a kid talking out of your ass to stroke your own ego about how good an artist you are. The reality of the matter is that this is a design for a multimillion dollar franchise done by a professional working in the industry, while you're a random person on some "art board" full of people like this guy >>1543074

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 8 06:54:04 2013 No.1543082 >>1543080 nice try troll

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 8 07:09:04 2013 No.1543086 No one cares, /v/. Fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 8 08:36:09 2013 No.1543099 >>1542059 First impression as a grill: That pantyhose wouldn't stay up the moment she started moving! It would be down to her crotch in no time, crookedly kept in place there by the top strap on her thigh... Now I can't unsee it.

Anonymous Sun Sep 8 11:07:56 2013 No.1543150

>>1543052
Looks like a gay cowboy.

A REALLY gay cowboy.

I don't care for it.
>No seriously, this design is generic as fuck.
That's a big part of the problem. This type of design has been done before, and better - see Holly Summers higher up in the thread. Since this character is going to immediately draw comparison to characters with a similar design, it should be a stronger design to help stand out from crowd.

Instead it's pretty weak.
>>1543080
>people designing for big franchises are beyond reproach and criticism!
This is how the Star Wars prequels became such utter shit

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 8 13:49:39 2013 No.1543205 >>1543150 >This is how the Star Wars prequels became such utter shit u so cool XD

Anonymous Sun Sep 8 14:29:42 2013 No.1543222

It's strange, I don't think they hate the character. Because a woman was created. Many activists would probably use Quiet as their avatar, as a power statement. They will try to transmute the idea to something that represents their contention. The character itself will be defended like a fellow victim. But the idea is hated. The product is opposed, as well as the creators. The actual designers don't get as much flak, until people like they address the special interest groups. That should be a no-no by the way.

Going to assume activists, oppose the clothing and character design because they consider it objectification. Whenever I see the word objectify, I interpret that someone is treating a character or person like an object or I suppose their interpretation would be that someone is treating a woman like an object? Well, it starts out as a blank piece of paper and becomes an idea, it kind of isn't a real human, being created. Activists assume that because she is designed in that way, that men will only think of the perverse. Or that she was designed as a male fantasy. "This is how 'my' woman would dress." But in essence that is true, it is a character design. I suppose the offense is that an activist would never dress based on what a man likes or how a man tells them to dress. That is ridiculous, because once again, it's a character design.

Here's a thought. I can create a female gendered character. And based on how I design her clothing I can incite a frenzy from a special interest group, who are in the minority by the way, or I can be their hero. The best course of action, for a creator, is not to acknowledge them in any way. If you are dealing with a child, you don't give them the icecream when they are having a tantrum. Of course, you can work with a child. A screaming frenzy of bloggers and activists, will move on to the next controversy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 8 14:39:42 2013 No.1543224 >>1543099 The pantyhose is general look fucking stupid and unnecessary.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 8 14:41:13 2013 No.1543226 >>1543224 It adds to how she might have been fighting a lot and it would have been ripped in battle and shit. Also covers up a little more skins so she doesn't run around in underwear.

Anonymous Sun Sep 8 14:54:12 2013 No.1543233

>>1543226
Still, they're pantyhose. There's a variety of clothing they could have used that they could rip and would fit in more with character and environment. Only reason I see they chose pantyhose was to show off her thong while "trying" to be "discrete".

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 8 15:00:43 2013 No.1543237 File: 498 KB, 2085x1600, 598804.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I like pantyhose

Anonymous Sun Sep 8 15:12:29 2013 No.1543247

>>1543222
>Or that she was designed as a male fantasy.
Well she was. Kojima even said as much.

And it shouldn't be assumed that it's just activists who don't like it. I like sexy female characters, but this design is really boring and uninspired, and more reminiscent of those crappy photo-shoots of scantily clad women with guns than anything(which is to say it looks like something put together on the cheap to make a few easy bucks off of sex appeal rather than something well thought-out).
>>1543226
>fighting
>sniper
And if we're going to get into the things happening because of her being a sniper, she'd have a terrible sunburn from being out in a bikini in the middle of a desert.

Anonymous Sun Sep 8 15:25:31 2013 No.1543258

>>1543222
>The best course of action, for a creator, is not to acknowledge them in any way.
And therein lies the reason they've sunk their teeth so far into video games, it's the only industry where instead of being ignored, they are given a platform. Any competent industry would bolster itself against attack and defend the rights of the creator, but video games is actively trying to tear itself apart, all for a little ad revenue.

Anonymous Sun Sep 8 15:32:59 2013 No.1543261

>>1543247
>Kojima even said as much.
Yeah, I mentioned that, I think. The whole 'this is a creator's design.' It's >not< a sin to draw your fantasies as far as I know.

>And it shouldn't be assumed that it's just activists
I'm not assuming it's just activists. I personally don't like the costume design. So I am addressing activists. And when I say activists I mean men and women. One of my male friends of 12+ years got very angry at me, and he told me to 'check my privilege' when we were discussing Kojima and this costume design. It ended the conversation, because that was a real cop out to me.

>design is really boring and uninspired, and more reminiscent of those crappy photo-shoots of scantily clad women with guns than anything(which is to say it looks like something put together on the cheap to make a few easy bucks off of sex appeal rather than something well thought-out).

Yeah, I see that too. Yet, I am fascinated by Kojima. Just been occasionally following some of his adventures on twitter, through threads on /v/ and posts on tumblr. And he strikes me as a comedic genius, and I have no credentials to say that. His humor is subtle and offensive, he gets on people's nerves when he wants to. And I feel that this is very calculating. Kojima is just putting us all through one big joke while he's making a AAA game.

Anonymous Sun Sep 8 15:33:00 2013 No.1543262

>>1543005

OH MY GOD, WHO CARES

You people are the antithesis of creativity. As someone who cares about entertainment and aesthetics, you fucking social justice crusaders piss me off the most. STOP RUINING WHAT LITTLE CREATIVITY IS LEFT, FAGGOT.

Go back to Gawker and jerk off to etsy video game bracelets, you bored, spoiled, identity-struggling brats.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 8 15:40:29 2013 No.1543265 >>1543261 >And he strikes me as a comedic genius, If he is, his games don't really reflect it, IMO.

Anonymous Sun Sep 8 15:48:50 2013 No.1543269

>>1543258
They have completely avoided hiphop. Rap music advocates everything they hate. But there is never a single mention of it on tumblr or reddit or other activist communities. Either because the rappers don't ever acknowledge it, or because activists view people of color as victims as well, which is a subtle form of racism, we need not get into.

Although, I'm surprised this form of controversy isn't expanded more. I recall watching a VH1 special on horror/satanic/demonic motifs and images in rock music. The Christian special interest groups called for boycotts, bans and apologies. The musicians that didn't back down from the controversy ended up being the biggest, most infamous and most revered entertainers. Alice Cooper, Ozzy Osbourne, Kiss, Iron Maiden. and Black Metal of the 80s and 90s. Alice Cooper said that nowadays grandmothers come to see the music and the only controversy left is to have a live suicide happen on stage.

Game companies are kind of doing a fairly good job, defending their developers. But it's only because the money is safe. They know people are going to buy their games regardless.

Anonymous Sun Sep 8 15:51:49 2013 No.1543274
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>>1543265
Well his games are more about political, social and war commentary. With the espionage gameplay on top. And there are some more culturally Japanese humorous subtexts in the game that may not sync up with us. Anyway, even if his games don't reflect his humor, surely some of his twitter escapades do.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 8 16:11:04 2013 No.1543285 File: 152 KB, 331x453, 1356805994155.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1543274

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 8 16:18:05 2013 No.1543290 File: 47 KB, 500x374, kojima.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1543274 It's impossible to hate Kojima

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 8 18:34:36 2013 No.1543389 >>1543052 dragon crown overall stylish presentation and design is perfectly fine because it just hits right on spot how it is like to play dnd in a group and then ramping it up to 250%

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 8 21:29:40 2013 No.1543477 >>1543262 >antithesis of creativity Nothin' says 'scintillant auteur' like a lady with her tits out, right? Makes you wonder why strippers aren't hailed for their artistic ingenuity.

Anonymous Sun Sep 8 21:45:01 2013 No.1543486
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>>1543222

but why couldnt they at least given her fitting equipment like Jill in every resident evil?

and what kind of context would leave only her fucking bra and whore stockings showing? Japan isnt fooling anyone.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 10 12:21:23 2013 No.1544342 >>1543486 >what kind of context would leave only her fucking bra and whore stockings showing? Maybe she was trained in the same unit than Cammy? Pic related, female oppressed by the Vidya Patriarchy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 10 12:22:47 2013 No.1544345 File: 363 KB, 555x1024, Street-Fighter-Cosplay-Cammy-Cosplay-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1544342 Forgot the pic.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 10 13:03:48 2013 No.1544379 >>1544345 i name thee cheeks of war.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 11 05:55:34 2013 No.1544861 File: 61 KB, 350x493, q01_6x9.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1542059 Better?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 11 06:12:09 2013 No.1544866 File: 579 KB, 1280x800, 1075945755028.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 11 06:44:39 2013 No.1544869 >>1544866 tldr institutionalized sexism, yadda yadda, heroic image =/= sexualized image >>1544861 i saw this... made me so happy the other day

Anonymous Wed Sep 11 07:44:16 2013 No.1544890

>>1544866
>Exaggerating women's secondary sexual characteristics = sexism
>Exaggerating men's secondary sexual characteristics = not sexism
Same reason calling someone a cunt is considered worse than calling someone a dick, women are more offended by it, it's not actually inherently worse.

Anonymous Wed Sep 11 08:20:46 2013 No.1544903

>>1544890
yes that's how it works, because dudes aren't oppressed.

likewise you can emphasize the whiteness of a character all you want but putting big fat lips, ebony skin, big teeth and a penchant for stealing, running and fried chicken on a black character is unacceptable.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 11 08:32:20 2013 No.1544909 >>1544903 go away tumblr

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 11 08:36:21 2013 No.1544913 >>1544890 Could be because woman are more sexualised in the media, than men?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 11 08:39:21 2013 No.1544916 >>1544903 >Women in the first world >Opressed lol, but seriously this thread needs to die.

Anonymous Wed Sep 11 08:45:20 2013 No.1544921

>>1544913
Sexualisation for women can be as little as exposing some cleavage, whereas to be considered sexualisation for men they pretty much have to get their cock and balls out. Women don't really get it any worse it's just the bar for what constitutes "sexualisation" is set much lower.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 11 09:02:20 2013 No.1544929 File: 16 KB, 525x394, Raiden-mgs2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1544921 Is this enough?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 11 09:22:21 2013 No.1544938 >>1544903 I wished as a white male I had half the privileges a woman has. For one, it would be lots of fun to kick a woman in the vagina if she insults you and you don't have to worry about physical assault charges.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 11 10:19:10 2013 No.1544989 >>1544938 I never got the whole "kicking balls is ok, kicking vagina is not" thing. Kicking balls can lead to some very nasty shit, including necrosis and amputation of one of the balls.

Anonymous Wed Sep 11 10:29:11 2013 No.1545003

>>1544938
despite what you might of heard women are still subject to the law.

it seems to be all the privileges dudes attribute to women a) only apply to sexy women b) only apply in the case of virgin weirdos who will do anything a sexy woman says.

one of the main ones i see is that women can manipulate men more easily. idk about other people but i'm a dude and i manipulate women all the time, like constantly, and it's so easy it's natural. i don't know if the dudes spouting this crap are just socially inept or if they don't notice they're doing it.

the effect of a beautiful man on a woman is if anything more powerful than the effect of a beautiful woman on a man. and if your counter-argument goes 'well women can use it more because most people in positions of power are men!' you've kind of shot your own stance in the foot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 11 10:31:41 2013 No.1545005 Attempting to Care . . . ╔═══════════════════════════╗ ║███████████████████████░░░░║ ╚═══════════════════════════╝ Estimated Time Completion : Velocirapture

Anonymous Wed Sep 11 11:41:12 2013 No.1545046

>>1544938
what fantasy world do you live in where a cop wont file paper work for assault? Thats not the chick's fault. Thats yours for not pressing charges or the cop's fault. Stop being a sexist douche and cunt-punt her back, apparently its a free for all where you live.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 11 12:09:55 2013 No.1545059 >>1545003 you are writting like some tumblr girl I know

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 11 12:41:53 2013 No.1545070 >>1544861 Glorious!

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 11 12:47:53 2013 No.1545075 >>1545059 my sister likes all this feminism stuff so i've thought about it a bit, also i go to art school and most people there are chicks, also i'm quite pretty and therefore i interact with women perhaps more than the average 4chan loser.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 11 12:51:23 2013 No.1545085 File: 436 KB, 461x459, meirl.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1545075 Say hi to your girlfriend for me... oh wait

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 11 13:01:23 2013 No.1545098 >>1545075 back 2tumblr

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 11 13:02:25 2013 No.1545099 I personally think it doesn't matter. The people who dislike the design appear to strangely disagree with slut-shaming. I believe that people can fight creativity with creativity, not insulys.

Anonymous Wed Sep 11 13:27:52 2013 No.1545118
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This thread is still here?

You can't sexualize a man as easily as a woman, and even if you achieved it, there's a fair chance that it would be perceived as ridiculous.

Is it a cultural thing? Certainly. Only men can be handsome, only women can be beautiful, etc.

I'm not even trying to defend that design. I don't find it appealing at all. But just look at my pic: there are people who ressent the "chainmail bikini", yet Conan is even more naked and that's ok.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 11 20:24:27 2013 No.1545391 >>1545118 men can be beautiful and women can be handsome

Anonymous Wed Sep 11 20:40:57 2013 No.1545410
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>>1545118
That's not chainmail bikini, though. This would be an example.

In your picture, the woman clearly displays a physique that shows her strength, and isn't sexualized (ie. large breasts, small waist-hip ratio, unnecessary make-up, etc). It's actually realistic, and not to mention the male counterpart (I assume they're from the same series) also wears the similar attire.

Having skin exposed doesn't necessarily mean sexualization. Or at least, sexualization done poorly.

And, on the topic of Conan; Conan isn't designed to be sexually attractive, but to display strength. With males it's a tad more of a gray area (since strength and muscles are sexually attractive), but it all really depends to an extent. Very muscled males like Conan obviously aren't made to appeal to women and the like.

Sexualizing men is pretty easy, though often it just gets confused with more musclezz. That Free! animu is a fine example of sexualized dudes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 11 21:21:27 2013 No.1545424 >the clothing and nudity are what objectifies a person, not her story or audience Because dressing provocatively, and how others choose to see you, that makes you a "fake" human. As an ex muslim, I've got a faith to recommend all you feminists.

Anonymous Thu Sep 12 00:17:24 2013 No.1545521

I don't know why this shit ended in a discussion about feminism (well, I know, because people are idiots, that's why).
This is a stupid desing to attract guys that think with their penises, it's just selling sex for idiots, like any stupid anime with girls of giant boobs. ¡O no wait, because her giant boobs have a reason, now it's completely logical!

Any artistic liberty or justifications of why is she almost nude doesn't make the design look less stupid people.

But if you think well is a good desing, because it achieve it's purpose, make idiots (like all the above) horny for them to buy the product.

P.S. (i'm not a woman, and I don't consider myself a feminist so stopo with that shit)

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 12 00:21:08 2013 No.1545522 >>1545410 Left is Diablo III fem. barbarian concept art, right is unrelated Conan art.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 12 23:43:50 2013 No.1546163 Actually the thing that really annoys me is that her pantyhose look like they are going to fall down.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 12 23:45:19 2013 No.1546165 >>1546163 panty hose can't fall down, haven't you even seen a woman before?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 12 23:50:20 2013 No.1546170 It's fun, and very MGS. Like, Afghanistan is hot. Shit.

Anonymous Fri Sep 13 00:03:51 2013 No.1546175

>>1545118
You know why it's okay? Because most guys don't care for that bullshit. Sure it might be the fact that we've never had to consider being thought of as an "object", but I'm willing to bet that 9 out of 10 men who see a dude sporting a speedo and some bracelets aren't going to give a fuck if it's sexualized or not.

Does he kick ass? Cool.

Does the design show at least a hint of professional thought behind it, at least something that would make sense in the world the character is a part of? Yeah? Cool.

It's a little obnoxious that artists have to stifle and censor themselves and literally not draw what they want because people will start a shitstorm. It's fucking pathetic. After that Dragon's Crown bullshit where the males were just as sexualized and nobody cared about them, I cannot say I have high hopes for the future.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 00:18:24 2013 No.1546180 >>1546175 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC1XtnLRLPM

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 00:31:55 2013 No.1546184 >>1546175 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC1XtnLRLPM here is some sexualised dudes, makes you uncomfortable right. it does me.

Anonymous Fri Sep 13 00:46:23 2013 No.1546189

>>1546175
As a girl it's not the fact that women are sexualized that bothers me, it's that some artists feel that they must sexualize a perfectly good character and give her a cliché, boring personality for it to work. Just look at the New 52 Harley Quinn; she used to be a little sexualized and have a good personality and interesting stories, now she's a full-blown whore and has no personality whatsoever. That kind of character isn't fun to read/watch. You want to give a character skimpy clothes ? Okay, but give her a good design and something interesting to say/do. It also applies to male characters though.

Anonymous Fri Sep 13 00:54:56 2013 No.1546190

>>1546184
Not that guy, but its not sexualizing guys the right way, it is replacing guys' fantazies of girls with... other guys, for comedic effect (apron thing for example). The way it is usually done is with baloon muscles and tights. I think we are all used to supetheroes by now.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 00:58:56 2013 No.1546192 >>1546189 I think you have just grown up and your perspective has changed, Harley Quinn was always a whore.

Anonymous Fri Sep 13 01:47:30 2013 No.1546203

>>1546165
Yes they bloody do! Woman are forever bitching about it. They get baggy and then the crotch starts to hang down or if they are on the small size the pantyhose start riding down your legs and as the day goes on and you have to awkward try and pull them up through your skirt. Its a common problem.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 01:51:32 2013 No.1546205 >>1546203 >>1546203 if you say so, i only where womens underwear under mens clothes or in the privacy of my own house and thats never happened to me

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 01:54:33 2013 No.1546207 >>1546205 Probably because you don't have wide hips and a small waist so they probably fit better better.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 03:44:54 2013 No.1546234 >>1544861 bulge needs to be bigger

Anonymous Fri Sep 13 03:53:23 2013 No.1546237 [DELETED]

Feminist here. It's a boring design and /ic/ is the last place anyone should expect meaningful social rights discourse. It's like expecting a fast food worker to have a master's degree in mechanical engineering.

Alternatively, it's like expecting /ic/ to draw well (HAHA). Get back to drawing faggots.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 04:32:53 2013 No.1546244 >>1546237 Why did we need to know you are a feminist?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 04:42:24 2013 No.1546246 >>1546244 As a gay trans female otherkin magical twink, it's important to state who you are so when someone opposes your opinion, you can yell "HATE CRIME!".

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 06:26:15 2013 No.1546254 File: 22 KB, 500x400, lel.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1546244

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 07:05:38 2013 No.1546265 File: 214 KB, 936x1032, xen.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1546254 Lol, feminism. Time to draw more skanks!

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 08:35:39 2013 No.1546315 >>1546184 Honestly, that's kind of hilarious. But I agree with >>1546190 they're just replacing girls with guys doing the same thing, which is more funny than anything.

Anonymous Fri Sep 13 13:03:30 2013 No.1546454

>>1546192
Are you kidding ? She was adorable and smart in B:TAS, and more recently, quite interesting in Gotham City Sirens, or Harley Quinn : Night and Day. Sure, she was always hot and insane, but she was well-written and had a personality. Now she's only in comics to show off her boobs.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 13:07:17 2013 No.1546457 >>1546454 /co/ get out. we only need pureblood realist /ic/ "artists" in here.

Anonymous Fri Sep 13 13:22:46 2013 No.1546475

jesus christ who cares about all this gender crap.
The real problem is that the design looks trashy and terribly random. It's just not good in a design sense.
you know a design is terrible when the first time you see it, you have to keep asking WHY?

If i look at >>1542351 you can see that the design is at least consistent. the "operator" look is strong enough to mask the nudity, so it's still clear this is a "fighter", not a "stripper". so basically
>operator >>> naked chick

OP on the other hand has way more elements that remind me of a stripper than an operator.
>stripper >>>operator
with the other design, it was clear why she was only wearing so little under her gear, it was obvious.
in OP's design not so much. the difference is that she only has a little bit of gear in the first place, so not wearing anything basically gives off the impression that she doesn't care if she is naked at all. like an exhibitionist
The biggest problem is that bikini. it looks like her nipple could slip any second she starts jumping around, and that's just nor an "operator" type of bikini. changing that alone would make it 20% better, and if you give her some pants, even short ones, this would look like an average design for our age.

they really just crossed the line by a little bit. but this still worries me since it shows that people have no qualm aabout feeding us more and more of this pandering bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 13:46:47 2013 No.1546499 >>1542059 I would gladly agree to be slowly tortured to death if I got to be reborn as a girl with her body. Feminists have some crazy ideas of how awesome it is to be a dude.

Anonymous Fri Sep 13 13:55:05 2013 No.1546511
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>>1542061
>supposed to attract /v/irgins
why are feminists always bringing up virginity, as if that's something to be ashamed of? a virgin can easily buy a woman (pay extra for the clean one, if he wants to do it without a condom), boom not a virgin anymore. it's not that difficult if you prioritize currency over bitches.

if anything, it's the ugly fat virgin GIRLS who are jealous of beautiful females in media.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 14:58:35 2013 No.1546562 File: 27 KB, 375x375, 1363394957668.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1546511 Not to rain on your parade man, but people on /v/ are commonly referred to as /v/irgins. Just like we're d/ic/ks and /pol/ are /pol/iticians.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 15:05:36 2013 No.1546570 >>1542061 >this design makes no fucking sense on the functionnal level she can change the colour of her skin, it would be even better if she was naked.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 15:23:12 2013 No.1546584 >>1546562 obviously, but most feminists outside of 4chan refer to actual virgins.

Anonymous Fri Sep 13 16:11:12 2013 No.1546651

>>1546584

Whore is to wimins what virgin is to men. Both genders have completely opposite views on sexuality, I thought we already knew this, but apparently women are trying to make us pretend that there are no differences.

The design is brilliant for what it was made for, some people like tits, some don't. Deal with it.

Anonymous Fri Sep 13 16:54:07 2013 No.1546706

>>1546651
>The design is brilliant for what it was made for, some people like tits, some don't. Deal with it.
...but even in that respect it's not very good. She looks like a tired-out whore, which, as far as I'm aware, isn't especially up there on the list of things guys find attractive.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 16:57:13 2013 No.1546710 >>1546706 you don't know guys very well, then.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 17:01:39 2013 No.1546717 File: 12 KB, 280x283, 1366722802373.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1546710 Speak for yourself, scrub. Some people have standards, such as myself.

Anonymous Fri Sep 13 17:02:39 2013 No.1546720
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>>1546710
I can only speak for myself, so you might be on to something. But I certainly don't find "girl who looks like she just fucked ten guys and only wants to go home" attractive.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 17:11:09 2013 No.1546735 I don't really find the OP pick sexy at all It just comes off as pathetic. She looks sad and miserable, a victim. She looks more like a hobo than a soldier

Anonymous Fri Sep 13 17:28:40 2013 No.1546744
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>>1542059
there is mo-cap footage of the VA in full combat gear, so Our Lord and Saviour Kojima was probably just fucking with us and the femenesds alike. Pic related, it's how to do character design for combat roles.

Anonymous Fri Sep 13 17:35:13 2013 No.1546754

>>1546720

Nah she just looks tired, you're assuming she "fucked ten guys" because of the implied sexuality of her clothes I guess, but that's like saying "all women at the beach are whores because they are showing their tits".

That being said, the way her left hand is holding the whatever that strap is, seems pretty dumb.

Anonymous Fri Sep 13 17:37:12 2013 No.1546756

>Kojima introduces Quiet, an attractive female character feminists deem as a ploy to attract men and hate because of it.
BOOO KOJIMA SEXIST THIS INDUSTRY IS FULL OF MANBABIES BEHEAD THOSE WHO PORTRAY WOMEN WITHOUT SHIRTS BRB GOTTA PRAY IN THE DIRECTION OF ANITA SAARKESIAN'S HOUSE THIS IS FUCKING MISOGYNNYYYYYYY OBJECTIFYING WOMEN BOOO

>Kojima temporarily swaps the main protagonist of MGS for a pretty-boy "bishonen" character named Raiden who he came up with in an effort to appeal to women.
The only backlash from that is people wanting to play as Snake instead of some other character. No one called misandry did they? No one whined about objectifying men did they? Why?

In MGS3, there's a man who CAN CONTROL BEES, a man whose body is photosynthetic, a man who's body carries an electric charge of over 10,000 volts, and a man who is a ghost and, when he cries, causes it to rain blood. Where are the people who cry about "THIS ISN'T REALISM CMON KOJIMA THIS IS FUCKING NOT REALISTIC WOW YOU SUCK." Why?

I'm really sick of women bitching about character design and chalking it up to "sexism" when it's something they don't like.

Anonymous Fri Sep 13 17:40:42 2013 No.1546758

>>1546744

That's the shit. Why on earth are we paying so much attention to a mediocre design about a female showing her body? It's been done countless of times in the last decades, why all of the sudden is it relevant? Why do I feel this has to do with the recent popularity of /pol/?

Anonymous Fri Sep 13 17:49:42 2013 No.1546762
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>>1546758
/pol/ is shitting all over /lit/ and /v/ as we speak, and has successfully taken over /b/ during the summer with its daily dose of 3 femenest threads, but they seem to have left /b/. /pol/ is the fucking worst and stupid shitlake of a board I have ever seen, a firmly closed circle of whiny losers who fancy themselves "men" or "Aryan". And now they've come to /ic/, I see. Another board forever tainted.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 17:50:43 2013 No.1546763 >>1546756 see >>1546762 and get back to /pol/, maybe they'll believe you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 17:52:42 2013 No.1546765 >>1546758 Because /pol/ posted Tumblr screenshots, on several boards and by making it relevant to the board's topic. So, now they hate feminism and anyone who is progressive? >>yfw /pol/ has won.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 17:53:43 2013 No.1546766 >>1546758 Because it is?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 17:54:42 2013 No.1546768 File: 274 KB, 501x900, tumblr_mr1dspycIR1qkzni7o2_1280.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1546765 we strike back, at dawn!

Anonymous Fri Sep 13 18:06:13 2013 No.1546778

>>1546763
What did I even write that you deem incorrect? Please, I'd love to know.

Why does disagreeing with the feminist take on Quiet mean that I frequent /pol/? I only browse /ic/, /v/, /vg/, /3/, /g/, /adv/, /lit/, and /ck/.

>>1546765
>I'm progressive!!
Why? Is that really what this is about?

Anonymous Fri Sep 13 18:09:12 2013 No.1546782

>>1546756

That's how the logic fucktrain works.

>Sexualized female char
-bitching, general Jack Thompson level blaming for everything wrong in the world.

>A female focused work such as Free! releases and one or two stupid guys claim the same objectification bullshit that listening to feminists taught them it should somehow be a problem.

"Its about time girls got something to enjoy for themselves now do you know how it feels?!" -proceeds to look up and share yaoi pairings.-

Sorry, i only think "objectification" is a problem when people are actively stupid enough to treat real men/women like they don't matter otherwise. People need to do less bitching about the media and do something more productive, like supporting stuff that fits their standards or better yet, since this is an artwork board, fuckin produce it yourselves.

Anonymous Fri Sep 13 18:09:12 2013 No.1546783

>>1546744
No you amateur fuck. That is how you do character design for one particular project with one particular design language in mind.

If you work as concept artist on some light hearted animated Disney or Dreamworks movie and you come up with gritty Dark Souls armor designs for the guardsmen of a peaceful town, then that design is worthless SHIT.

Why is it so hard for rookies to understand that good design depends on the context. If Kojima wants to make the next MGS completely over the top and silly, then silly, over the top designs are what is needed for that project, not gritty, practical realistic designs that you would consider good.

Anonymous Fri Sep 13 18:24:41 2013 No.1546793
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>>1546783
You disagree with me and that makes me feel angry. Grr. But I'm absolutely certain that Quiet being almost naked will factor into the deep and meaningful story of MGSV. Trust me, it will and it'll send our sides into orbit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 19:35:09 2013 No.1546834 Why doesn't she have a shirt? Why do her stockings have holes in them? Can she have bought new stockings by now? Assuming she's in civilization.

Anonymous Fri Sep 13 19:56:09 2013 No.1546852

>>1546834

Because she looks sexier that way.

An I don't magically stop thinking she's a complete human because she's sexy, derp.

Sounds more like it's the responsibility of the audience to not take skimpy outfits as reason to objectify people, rather than women to have to dress or act a certain way or risk being seen as less than human. Because, you know, person-hood is intrinsic to all humans. Ah, don't listen to me, I have crazy ideas sometimes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 20:05:41 2013 No.1546856 File: 579 KB, 1440x796, fixed.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 20:07:03 2013 No.1546857 >>1546856 can I post this all over the internet?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 20:09:41 2013 No.1546861 >>1546856 2nd one I'd let stomp on my dick, god damn

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 20:42:15 2013 No.1546891 >>1542120 Well you have to actually play the game to see if she has a character or not MGS games managed to make character relatable even though both males and females are overly sexualized

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 13 21:02:46 2013 No.1546909 >>1546856 Oh boy, this image is going to become popular on /v/.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 00:13:17 2013 No.1546998 File: 1.47 MB, 320x240, s3AoP.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1546856

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 00:33:37 2013 No.1547010 >>1546891 'sexualized' is a thing for children, adult women are already sexual, because they're women. sexuality at the expense of good storytelling is 'exploitation'

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 00:51:34 2013 No.1547017 >>1542061 People have fought practically naked for thousands of years...

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 00:53:35 2013 No.1547019 >>1547017 people have also owned slaves for thousands of years

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 00:57:05 2013 No.1547022 >>1547019 And? The Russians put the slave workers they buy from North Korea to good use.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 01:01:05 2013 No.1547026 >>1547022 i'm not sure your pro-slavery stance will strengthen your argument

Anonymous Sat Sep 14 01:45:42 2013 No.1547055

>>1547026
The initial 'dur slaves' was a total non sequitur. Skimpy clothing would be somewhat ill advised for a sniper, but she could still be very effective (just like all the other warriors in history who fought wearing little clothing).It's not like she's using a flamethrower. The main problem would be crawling over coarse terrain. I'm assuming she has some kinda inate octocamo which reduces her visibility and makes this worth it.

How are any of the other character's outfits in MGS 'functional' given that almost none of them wear helmets? Even people who fought largely naked wore helmets because anything between your head and a sword/knife/shrapnel dramatically improved your chance of surviving.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 01:47:41 2013 No.1547057 >>1546783 It's not even over the top though. It's just bland and stupid. There is nothing about it that makes me go "that's cool."

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 01:58:10 2013 No.1547064 >>1547057 It's amazing with how bland it is how much it pisses off feminists. It may be a failure as a character design, but it is an amazing as a provocateur.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 02:24:40 2013 No.1547076 >>1547064 It doesn't piss off feminists, it pisses off misandrists. People tend to get the two confused, misandrists especially.

Anonymous Sat Sep 14 02:32:41 2013 No.1547079

>>1546511
It's one of their common shaming techniques. It's not usually a matter of whether one has fucked or not, it's usually an insult to one's social and interpersonal skills. The implication is that normal, balanced men would not be virgins by a certain age. So feminists are calling their detractors pathetic losers who don't fit in with the rest of (what they see as) society.

Of course, there is also the other part, being that they like to believe that anyone who has the gall to disagree with feminism hates women or something like that, mostly because the man hates women because he can't get laid. More shaming techniques.

Which is hilarious when you hear feminists railing against slut shaming. It's okay to shame (what you perceive as) virgins but it's horrible and sexist to shame sluts. But the fact that modern feminists are hypocrites, of the Tumblr variety foremost, should be of no surprise to anyone.

Anonymous Sat Sep 14 02:33:40 2013 No.1547080

The first time I saw this character in the trailer I just didn't think much about it.

There is a trend going on right now where people, that most of the time don't even give a shit about x game they're criticizing feel like is their duty to educate the gaming community.

Isn't her ability in the game btw for her skin to become invisible.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 02:34:40 2013 No.1547081 File: 466 KB, 1404x1099, 1357335556188.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1545118 people just aren't finding the right balance.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 03:12:19 2013 No.1547089 >>1547081 Using feminine poses for men isn't the right way to sexualise men.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 04:06:07 2013 No.1547118 I'm so glad most of your pretentious faggots don't give two shits about playing good and fun games like Dragon;s Crown.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 04:45:11 2013 No.1547134 >>1542078 you havent even played the game yet

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 05:34:44 2013 No.1547151 >>1547089 And what would be a 'good' way to sexualise men. All typically male poses show dominance and strength.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 06:00:44 2013 No.1547160 >>1547151 Submissive sissyboys obviously or else it's a male power fantasy

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 06:43:14 2013 No.1547166 >>1547089 None of them are feminine, or overtly feminine though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 06:45:15 2013 No.1547167 >>1547151 >And what would be a 'good' way to sexualise men. All typically male poses show dominance and strength. If you trying to sexualise men by using the way they sexualise women then you are an idiot. Or a 15 y/o feminist from tumblr.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 07:54:50 2013 No.1547196 File: 563 KB, 550x1514, i-need-feminism-because-bear.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 08:13:41 2013 No.1547202 >>1547196 lel filename

Anonymous Sat Sep 14 08:36:12 2013 No.1547212
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>>1542801
>But once you recognize the secret reason for her exposure, you will feel ashamed of your words & deeds

http://aspiegamingblog.wordpress.com/2013/09/12/the-quiet-eroticism-of-mgs5/

>mfw an autist understands the character of Quiet better than 4chan does

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 09:35:30 2013 No.1547243 >mfw the number of men in here disgusted by the suggestion that women should wear clothes in combat situations

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 09:36:30 2013 No.1547244 File: 294 KB, 575x863, yEqADF4.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What if people just started posting their own redesigns in this thread? >pic not related, I didn't draw it

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 09:48:20 2013 No.1547247 >>1547212 ohhh i thought it was ment to be lara croft

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 10:06:51 2013 No.1547255 File: 460 KB, 747x717, wow so unique.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1547244 wow

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 10:09:51 2013 No.1547257 >>1547255 Ha, hah, I agree. She already looks a bit like Lara, not smart making her look like her even more. ... I like the torn up skinny-jeans, tho. Kind of sexy in a more subtle way.

Anonymous Sat Sep 14 10:18:49 2013 No.1547263

>>1547257
why can't we just trust Yoji Shinkawa on this one, I don't see any feminists designing videogame characters or any characters at all (dont say Gone Home because there were no characters to interact with in that piece of shit) the pic of Quiet was released so people can Cosplay it, not so feminists can try and CHANGE things. I'm gonna be Quiet for halloween, and im a masculine guy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 10:19:20 2013 No.1547264 File: 56 KB, 397x599, 397px-Costume2a[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1547255 i think in like tomb raider 2 or 3 there was even an outfit where she wore pants..here's an image from one of the later ones i didn't play.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 10:22:20 2013 No.1547267 >>1547264 thats from angel of darkness, same game as my pic, but Lara does wear pants in her house in 2, and in her house in 3, as well as Nevada and Antarctica. Source: I'm a TR expert.

Anonymous Sat Sep 14 10:26:50 2013 No.1547270

>>1547267
she wears pants in her house in the first one as well, i was thinking more along the lines of tactical gear sorta pants, like in the nevada section, which is what i was thinking of now that you mention it, where she like breaks out of prison or whatever.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 11:36:25 2013 No.1547317 >>1547167 Not really, it would show how lope sided it is. Not every feminist is from Tumblr, brah.

Anonymous Sat Sep 14 11:43:54 2013 No.1547321
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there are overly sexualised men you know, like in twilight, i would call that wolf guy and his bare torso baring friends gratuitous. does anyone remember feeling insecure over that?

even boy-bands and 'teen heart-throbs' and mcdreamy are treated as being pretty much only pretty things for chicks to bean-flick over,

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 11:58:53 2013 No.1547337 >>1547321 Yeah, this is pretty much the male equivalent of serialization of women in media...

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 11:59:23 2013 No.1547338 >>1547337 >serialization sexualisation! (which I don't even think is a real word) Damn auto-correct...

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 12:06:03 2013 No.1547343 >>1547338 if your auto-correct is american it might be sexualization.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 12:22:34 2013 No.1547357 >>1547343 It is in English... but it still refuses to accept it as word, even with the z. Strange...

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 12:33:20 2013 No.1547361 >>1547357 weird, both versions work with mine

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 12:42:19 2013 No.1547366 >>1547321 They're just a power fantasy, as we all know women don't want strong, confident, muscley men. They're in there for the male audience members' benefit.

>>	Brian Pierce Sat Sep 14 13:16:51 2013 No.1547380 Elizabeth from Infinite is way more sexually attractive than this bitch

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 13:24:50 2013 No.1547390 >>1546852 I'm talking about the character's personal reasons for (not) wearing those clothes. If she has a good reason, then good. If not, then I'll make whatever assumptions.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 13:26:51 2013 No.1547392 >>1546856 Someone tell me there's already a thread on /v/ with this op pic.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 13:33:20 2013 No.1547395 >>1546834 She's in Afghanistan in the 70s(? thereabouts anyways). Which means sitting out in the sun all day, with no covering, she should be burnt to a crisp.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 13:33:20 2013 No.1547397 >>1547366 of course, women want whiny, scrawny guys.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 13:36:51 2013 No.1547400 >>1547366 Do you know what twilight is? Nothing is in there for the male audience. There is no male audience.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 13:37:49 2013 No.1547402 >>1547395 Then that makes sense. They also don't sell stockings there due to burqa customs. She could also not wear stockings altogether but maybe she's trying to appease muslims... but she's already shirtless so I don't know.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 13:52:22 2013 No.1547419 >>1547402 >maybe she's trying to appease muslims Pretty sure if they saw her like this they'd just straight up shoot her dead.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 14:02:28 2013 No.1547425 >>1547397 According to the guys women idolizes, yes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 14:08:58 2013 No.1547433 >>1547397 Well, let's look at Twilight's lead male character >scrawny, stalker-ish 100-year-old-plus-virgin immortal sparkling pale angsty "vampire"

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 14:18:57 2013 No.1547438 >>1547089 jjba men are goddamn hot they make the "feminin" poses which you call look sexy and manly

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 14:20:57 2013 No.1547440 File: 50 KB, 169x176, 1359912266114.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1546856

Anonymous Sat Sep 14 14:22:58 2013 No.1547445

I actually don't mind stuff like this, I know she looks stupid when it comes to functionality but I think outfits like these are hot. I usually like how some of those industrial, cyber girls look and this is kinda like that. The only thing is I don't like her face nor her body, not my type, she's kinda a butterface and I like thinner women, but that's just personal preference.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 14:23:57 2013 No.1547446 >>1542059 I don't give a fuck. Every character in MGS is sexualized to hell. Just the way I like it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 14:32:00 2013 No.1547448 File: 426 KB, 1920x1080, 291395b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1547366 a power fantasy by a female author? Use your arguments in the appropriate context, f/ic/kle human being.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 14:35:29 2013 No.1547451 File: 89 KB, 612x612, tumblr_mio2fb16tx1rlqac1o1_1280.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1547243 females not getting killed is a big turn-off for /pol/ite fellows

Anonymous Sat Sep 14 14:48:17 2013 No.1547457

>>1546511
Did I read that they were feminist? no

but you seem to have decided that they have to be in order to say that the attire wasn't practical which it isn't

then to complain about feminist using virgin as a shaming technique when
>if anything,it's the ugly fat virgin girls who are jealous

What are you doing? Proving a point that you do the same thing? I honestly would like to know in preferably a calmer tone because that sounded really upset.

Then if we replace some words >>1547079

the implication is that normal balanced women would not be fat ugly virgins. So masculinist (trademark) are calling their detractors pathetic losers who don't share the same view as the rest.

Point is arguments can always be called both ways. If you want to have hissy fit about self-proclaimed feminist women on tumblr do it maybe on tumblr so they can look. See how that goes.

For this character design the only fault I see is that it is impractical.I don't mind the bikini or gear but that stocking and boots combo was a god awful idea. As far as setting a mood and giving you the gist of who this person is I think it did fine.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 14:48:48 2013 No.1547458 File: 712 KB, 958x618, 1375737582375.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1547425 >>1547433 you faggots are thinking about young fangirls

Anonymous Sat Sep 14 15:32:17 2013 No.1547482 [DELETED]

It's too late. /pol/ has taken over /ic/

There are two feminism/anti feminism threads with plenty of bad arguments and name calling, and every thread has at least some level of it.

I thought it was an art board, now every board is DEBATE: WHO IS BETTER BOYS OR GIRLS AND WHY! WHO IS WOWRONG AND WHO ISN'T, ARE JEWS CAUSING BAD ART TO BE POPULAR? HOW COME HITLER GOT REJECTED FROM ART SCHOOL WHILE THERE IS X OUT THERE? and ALL OF YOUR FAVORITE ARGUMENTS IN THE FORM OF A FUNNY IMAGE.

But it's all acceptable because the main theme is art? What ever happened to the quality of the board? When did it stopped being relevant?

>B-but the rules say nothing about it
>As long as it's art related it's cool, right?

Well, I guess, but still, it's acceptable in the way being lazy at your job is acceptable; it won't get you fired but it doesn't mean you're doing a good job.

God fucking damnit I'm sick of you guys, get back to tumblr and /pol/ to argue about irrelevant shit. This was such a nice place when it was only art created by the user. Next there will be a daily /ic/ humor thred.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 15:34:16 2013 No.1547483 File: 1.18 MB, 209x180, 167275.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1547482 /pol/ should never have been founded in the first place

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 15:41:46 2013 No.1547490 >>1547483 I- Well I can't really be mad after watching this gif And yeah, I guess you're right too bad it's not going anywhere because the mods think of it as MUH FREEDOM SPEECH

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 15:51:17 2013 No.1547499 >>1547482 /pol/shit have never understood 4chan culture, they are literally the exact same brand of shit as tumblr morons.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 15:54:06 2013 No.1547502 File: 136 KB, 850x1169, 723.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1547490 here, have a page from my sketchbook for being a cool dude

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 16:00:36 2013 No.1547505 >>1547482 You could have not bumped this abortion of a thread, you know? I encourage anyone currently viewing this not to post, or at least sage so this shit can get pruned.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 16:14:36 2013 No.1547510 >>1547505 I forgot to sage, my bad

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 16:17:35 2013 No.1547513 >>1547458 >implying Twilight wasn't written by a woman who's nearly forty >implying Twilight doesn't have a sizable fanbase of older women http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Movies/11/16/older.twilight.fans/

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 16:18:34 2013 No.1547514 File: 290 KB, 500x350, tumblr_inline_mkx14te1SQ1rn18pl00b.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1547513 exactly

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 16:50:41 2013 No.1547527 >>1547483 well it's here so deal with it...ch-chink

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 17:23:42 2013 No.1547543 >>1547483 god are you retarded. the shit must stay in one place, over wise it will pollute everything. It's like /mlp.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 17:27:12 2013 No.1547545 >>1546184 Like others have said, it's more funny than uncomfortable to me. Get a thicker skin if you can't handle your own gender being sexy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 17:43:43 2013 No.1547552 >>1547482 Calm down there sugar tits. People having opinions that are contrary to yours doesn't mean /pol/ is raiding /ic/. If you want to have strictly on topic and politically correct discussion of art then make your own forum.

Anonymous Sat Sep 14 17:54:41 2013 No.1547556 [DELETED]

>>1547543

It's still spreading, this thread is the proof.

>>1547552

Don't have to, /ic/ used to be like that

Do you really want this thread to happen every day every single day? My opinion is irrelevant, I think the design is okay, but pretty mediocre for being on a professional level.

If you want to have bad quality discussion on things that were already discussed decades ago, do it on /pol/, it's the perfect board for you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 17:57:10 2013 No.1547558 >>1547556 Whining about shitposting is also shitposting. E-mail Moot about it and let him handle it. Report posts. Let the mods decide whether the discussion is relevant. But whatever you do, stop whining like a bitch.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 18:13:41 2013 No.1547566 If you don't like it, create your own game and characters.

Anonymous Sat Sep 14 18:19:10 2013 No.1547568 [DELETED]

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>>1547556
>Don't have to, /ic/ used to be like that

I'll tell you right now that you're full of shit. I've been a d/ic/k for well over 5 years now, and in that time I have seen every type of thread you condemned as "/pol/ raiding /ic/" hundreds of times over. I can guarantee these types of threads aren't new to the board, you are.

/pol/ is an interests board the same as /ic/ is, and sometimes certain aspects or topics of these communities mingle. Using one community as a scapegoat for complaining on another is retarded. Sorry if that hurts your feelings champ.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 18:21:11 2013 No.1547569 File: 6 KB, 251x251, 1293095182533.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Boobie groping minigame in GTAV leak >Imminent tumblr shitstorm on release day >mfw the ride never ends

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 18:21:11 2013 No.1547570 File: 106 KB, 1260x820, not spreading.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1547558 >It's not spreading, you're just upset

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 18:23:13 2013 No.1547571 >>1547570 That's not what I said. I in fact said nothing about your state of mind, upset or otherwise. I said >Whining about shitposting is still shitposting. You are still shitposting.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 18:27:41 2013 No.1547572 >>1547570 >One discussion over the race of Egyptian pharaohs where the OP posted an image of a Black pharaoh >/pol/ is raiding /ic/!!! You're the definition of absurd.

Anonymous Sat Sep 14 18:33:11 2013 No.1547575 [DELETED]

>>1547568

I didn't said it was raiding, I meant the users are adopting /pol/ ideology, then coming back to this board and well, this thread. See
>>1547570
for what I mean

>>1547571

>defending the quality of this board is considered shitpost by someone

Well, okay. the global rules say something different about what is considered shitposting.
>let the mods decide

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 18:37:13 2013 No.1547579 >>1547575 Yeah, exactly. The mods have repeatedly said >Report, don't engage. So yeah. You are shitposting.

Anonymous Sat Sep 14 18:38:13 2013 No.1547580 [DELETED]

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>>1547575
>I didn't said it was raiding, I meant the users are adopting /pol/ ideology

Are you trying to tell me people have different opinions than you?! How absolutely terrifying!

Anonymous Sat Sep 14 18:38:14 2013 No.1547581

>>1542059
I think the design looks silly. Not in the sort of 'haha how odd an unexpectedly quirky' sort of way, but more like that uncomfortable, cringe-inducing second-hand embarrassment sort of way. You ever had a total autist vomit all of their fanboy in front of the class and just felt embarrassed for them? That is how i feel about it, I feel embarrassed for the studio and the artist and I wouldn't want to be playing the game with other people present without first having a laugh at it, "Haha video games, am I right?"

If the thong was just not so visible the whole design would be SO much better. Underbeath the leggings, ou could even have a little bit of 'whale-tail' action, have the sides of the thong poke out above the pants, it would still be sexy without being ridiculous. Having the thong on the outside really is like wearing your pants on your head except even less hygenic. if we are supposed to read it as her wearing sheer tights over the thongs it makes more sense but I don't think we should be thinking so hard about how the outfit works, just make the leggings opaque and keep the thong poking out.

Otherwise, I think the leggings look pretty cool. I'd like to see some more of the fabric folds where they are most stressed (around the knees and crotch) so they don't look quite so painted on. And I'd make the bra look more like a sports bra instead of being knotted at the center like that. A big ol' jacket could have looked interesting if you really were interested in showing less skin, technically concealing her arms/shoulders/back but still leaving the front visible if it wasn't zipped up.

I really think it would have only taken very minor changes to make the design a lot better.

Anonymous Sat Sep 14 18:56:05 2013 No.1547600

>>1546203
>>1546205
>>1546207

I don't know who pantyhose is made for. There's the whole leg portion right? And the part over your abdomen, right? Well that upper part must be made for fat people who've got more surface area to cover, or people with ridiculously long abdomens, because they are always made so long. I can pull these things all the way up to my boobs, and yet the leg portion is never long enough.

And yes, pantyhose crotch sag is a thing. Nothing is quite so sad and unaesthetic as the drooping crotch on a pair of hose. And no, you can't pull them up higher because the legs of the hose aren't long enough to allow you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 14 19:00:07 2013 No.1547603 >>1547380 >>1547380 >>1547380

Anonymous Sat Sep 14 19:05:34 2013 No.1547606

>>1547581
Hmm, with some people thinking she might have photosynthetic skin the design makes more sense. It still looks silly but could make sense. Some people are thinking she might be able to go invisible, in which case . . . shouldn't she be completely naked? Her design should consist of clothing that is easy to rip off in that case.

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