Animu/Mango General

[Anonymous No.1513325]

Anime/Manga/Cartooning thread.

Previous Thread: >>1510909

Submit your drawings, receive feedback or critique others! Share your knowledge with us and remember to thank those who've critiqued or redlined your drawings and most importantly have fun.

And remember when in doubt - Read The Fucking Sticky as our chubby red haired friend so diligently puts.

"...in the end, nature is the best teacher." - Andrew Loomis

*OP image was presumably contributed by the artist, thank you!

[Anonymous No.1513338]

Drew this the other day

Any good?

[Anonymous No.1513337]

>>1513333

[Anonymous No.1513347]

>>1513338
hi katie

[Anonymous No.1513349]

>>1513347
lel, just wanted to see if /ic/ thinks everything is shit

for the #bantz

[Anonymous No.1513373]

cancer containment field activated.

[Anonymous No.1513378]

>>1513337
>Pointing out the flaws in TLG's animu redlines means we're jelly


>>1513338
...are you the real Katie Rice?

She's pretty good at head construction but her bodies are still pretty droppy and unconfident.

[Anonymous No.1513412]

Currently working on this, fixin'her nose now. Any helpful tips?

[Anonymous No.1513413]

>>1512258
cot'd

[Anonymous No.1513417]

>>1513412
there are no edges, everything is the same

you need to have hard and soft/lost edges to convey form

[Anonymous No.1513424]

>>1513373
it already was contained when the thread was made retard. youre the cancerous one here if we're throwing that word around now.

[Anonymous No.1513432]

>>1513413
That's real cute Anon.

[Anonymous No.1513443]

Procrastinating with ms paint

[Anonymous No.1513450]

>>1513443
you should finish this. i like me some yordles.

[Anonymous No.1513462]

>>1513450
I might more yordles but with proper tools 'n all

[Anonymous No.1513466]

>>1513338
>>1513412
>>1513443
Not even anime/easily identifiable with anime.

[Anonymous No.1513467]

bampsies

[Anonymous No.1513468]

>>1513466
"Anime/Manga/>>>CARTOONING<<< Thread"

[Anonymous No.1513474]

>>1513466
>Anime/Manga/Cartooning thread

[Anonymous No.1513485]

>>1513432
:D

[Anonymous No.1513486]

[Anonymous No.1513491]

>>1513485
The left foot seems to be twisted a bit too much. Looks painful (although that explains the facial expression)

[noobartist No.1513500]

trying to draw Sophie Howard from reference, kinda frustrated right now

[Anonymous No.1513504]

>>1513485
I tried to twist my ankle that much but couldn't do it, either I'm not flexible or that foot is broken in several places

[Anonymous No.1513505]

>>1513468
>>1513474
Oh, my bad. Post cute stuff then and not this shitty western-style crap.

[Anonymous No.1513507]

>>1513505
>grorious nippon

[Anonymous No.1513515]

>>1513505
Git out

[Anonymous No.1513517]

[D4mation No.1513526]

still a skectch - semy work in progress.

crtics more than welcome.

[Anonymous No.1513528]

>>1513505
pls die

[Anonymous No.1513535]

>>1513526
way too much chin
Head is too small

[Anonymous No.1513539]

[Anonymous No.1513540]

>>1513505
please leave.

[D4mation No.1513548]

>>1513535
Thanks a lot

[Anonymous No.1513555]

Here's my contribution to the thread. This is my first time on /ic/.

[Anonymous No.1513556]

>>1513491
>>1513504
nah, you're right. i completely winged the pose. back to studying.

[Anonymous No.1513557]

Tell me what you think.

[Anonymous No.1513562]

>>1513557
Needs some shadows.

[Anonymous No.1513564]

>>1513557
lines too rigid imo, feels a bit forced.

[Anonymous No.1513566]

>>1513526
>gravity does not apply to these boobs and this hair

[Anonymous No.1513567]

>>1513557
What the fuck is wrong with the hair?
Is she getting bald?

[Anonymous No.1513571]

>>1513562
>>1513564
Thanks.

>>1513567
Well, I referenced one of Dan Kim's black and white pieces and the hair is completely black with white highlights. I somehow forgot to color the hair black.

[Anonymous No.1513573]

I can't really tell what's off with the anatomy. I don't usually draw full body poses so I'm trying to get more practice in.

[Anonymous No.1513579]

>>1513573
She is too thick, at least if you are going for an anime looking body.
Animu bodies are thiner than real bodies, at which degree depends on the style, but yours definitely doesn't go with that face.

[Anonymous No.1513580]

>>1513573
Head is too small for that body

[Anonymous No.1513582]

>>1513573
Looks extremely stiff, you should try gesture drawing. Also the 2d face looks really strange

[Anonymous No.1513584]

>>1513579
>>1513580
>>1513582
Alright, thanks a lot. I'll scrap it and start over.

[Anonymous No.1513586]

>>1513573
The left arm is a little thin for her body type.
Her hair on her right side doesn't fall naturally. It's like there's something pushing it away from her body, and it doesn't look like her hair would be thick enough to do that on its own.

>>1513579
Type in "fat anime" on Google images and you'll be proven wrong. But I agree, the face is too thin for that curvy of a body. Not that she's fat though.

[Anonymous No.1513587]

You guys can go wild with the text, moving on to another expression.

[Anonymous No.1513590]

>>1513586
>Type in "fat anime" on Google images and you'll be proven wrong. But I agree, the face is too thin for that curvy of a body. Not that she's fat though.
Oh, but she is not fat, that's the problem. It looks like he referenced the proportions from a real body like Mikufag does (or used to) and it just looks off. Not fat or chubby, just too thick.

[Anonymous No.1513595]

>>1513587
What's the thing in her mouth and why is it pointing into such a wonky direction

[Anonymous No.1513597]

>>1513587
This time use a bigger canvas please.

[Anonymous No.1513599]

>>1513595
Oh I totally forgot about that it's supposed to be a cigar like the "Mah Nigga" meme guy lol

[Anonymous No.1513600]

>>1513587
Lol what expression? Also same picture as yesterday. Move on already mikufag. I want new shit everyday from you.

[Anonymous No.1513602]

I know the right eye is too high and the left foot sucks, but anything aside from that?

[Anonymous No.1513603]

>>1513590
Oh okay, I see what you're saying. Elaborate on this Mikufag person. I'm new here.

[Anonymous No.1513609]

>>1513599
Ah, you need to have a stronger expression so people can recognize it

[Anonymous No.1513616]

>>1513603
Mikufag is a heshe who draws only one character- Miku. Always Miku.
And hisher drawings suck and are horrifying. Mikufag likes to break many fundamental rules. Mikufag likes to work on one picture for several weeks. Mikufag puts expressionless Mikufaces on normal bodies. Mikufag is sad. Mikufag is trying. Miku Miku Miku Miku...

[Anonymous No.1513617]

>>1513603
Draws Miku. Nothing else. Mostly makes all the anime and manga threads here.

[Anonymous No.1513621]

>>1513616
So pretty much like this?

[Anonymous No.1513623]

>>1513621
Seems legit.

[Anonymous No.1513626]

Stop bullying Mikufag ;_;

[Anonymous No.1513628]

>>1513616
He's still better than you.

[Anonymous No.1513629]

>>1513626
Welcome to 4chan. Where teal is a god and mikufag is just there.

[Anonymous No.1513631]

>>1513628
Please white knight away :)

[Anonymous No.1513634]

>>1513626
This wouldn't happen on dA.

[Anonymous No.1513635]

>>1513621
More like this

[Anonymous No.1513640]

>>1513634
More like in /a/ this wouldn't happen.

[Anonymous No.1513643]

>>1513629
Who is Teal? Do you have an example of what he/she draws?

[Anonymous No.1513645]

>>1513643
teal is a fucking god.

[Anonymous No.1513647]

>>1513643
Teal redlines.

[Anonymous No.1513648]

>>1513640
Good point. Why isn't this thread their? It would be so much at home their.

[Anonymous No.1513650]

>>1513645
You sir need to get out more. Teal is not god. Mentor yes, god...not so much.

[Anonymous No.1513651]

>>1513643
http://imgur.com/a/8eHzD

[Anonymous No.1513652]

>>1513648
Because /ic/ need a cancer containment thread and animu/manga/cartoon needs it's own thread as well

[Anonymous No.1513653]

>>1513648
Because they are lazy.

[Anonymous No.1513654]

>>1513645
LOL

[Anonymous No.1513656]

>>1513653
This

[Anonymous No.1513657]

>>1513650
Dont be a smartass.

[Anonymous No.1513658]

>>1513652
Nope just take this thread and leave it there. /ic/ would thank you for doing so.

[Anonymous No.1513660]

>>1513648
We've tried to have OC threads on /a/ but they get flooded by buttmad posters complaining about >hurr go to /ic/

[Anonymous No.1513661]

>>1513657
Don't be dense. Teal is not Miyazaki bro. Get over it.

[Anonymous No.1513663]

>>1513660
And this is no different? Lol.

[Anonymous No.1513665]

>>1513661
He's still an artist I admire.

[Anonymous No.1513667]

>>1513651
>>1513647
Gotcha. That's pretty nifty. So Teal frequents /ic/?

[Anonymous No.1513669]

>>1513663
No but you can stop complaining about this beingi in /ic/ and the problem goes away. Most people in /ic/ supports having one of these threads around so they can see themselves superior and they don't have to step into stiff 2d animu in their precious drawthread

[Anonymous No.1513670]

>>1513665
Once again. You don't need to call him a god. Admiring is a completely different statement.

[Anonymous No.1513673]

>>1513670
I didn't call him a god, that other anon did.

[Anonymous No.1513687]

Does anyone else keep their uncoloured lineart?

[Anonymous No.1513691]

>>1513687
>implying I ever color my lineart
The ones I do color look like shit most of the time

[Anonymous No.1513692]

>>1513687
what do you mean? like, not delete it?

[Anonymous No.1513705]

Trying for the wind up to a midair uppercut slash. Advice?

[Anonymous No.1513709]

>>1513705
I'd say gesture drawing, perspective and all that normal shit you can find in the sticky but that is already mentioned in the OP so I am at a loss of words

[Anonymous No.1513710]

>>1513705
>midair
Is she jumping?
That pose doesn't give the impression of a jump.
Right(her left) shoulder also makes no sense.

[Anonymous No.1513714]

>>1513710
Yeah I see now that the shoulder is off.

And I was trying for the apex of a jump not the initial motion.

[Anonymous No.1513717]

>>1513600
Yeah, I usually only draw from my job at work because I have very little time.

[Anonymous No.1513718]

>>1513660
That's fucking lie, if I ever saw one. /a/ has original doujinshi or fanfictions threads and nobody complains, or says HURR TAKE IT TO /lit/ !

[Anonymous No.1513720]

>>1513485
I'm very bothered by the foot now but eh. thanks for the help, catch you muthafuckas later

[Anonymous No.1513723]

>>1513717
>job at work
That shit must be intense

[Anonymous No.1513725]

>>1513723
>kek

[Anonymous No.1513729]

>>1513705
>>1513705

Did you even try looking for a reference for a pose like this before attempting it? You really need to have a working knowledge of foreshortening and gesture to pull stuff like that off, to really plot out where the arms are going to be positioned relative to the sword.

Teal save this poor bastard

[Anonymous No.1513728]

Hey, can I ask for input here? I'm finally trying to get started on a comic but I'm just not sure if I'm handling this right.

It seems I'm rather attached to hard line art but at the same time I'm painting soft stuff underneath. I'm sure people would prefer to see either cleaner and "flatter" shadows or outright manga-style screentone. Seems kind of a shame though. Is there anything else I could try?

[Anonymous No.1513731]

>>1513728

That page layout, man, sheeeit.

[Anonymous No.1513738]

>>1513728
Study composition and see how others do their comics before you start a huge project like this. The text itself seems kinda interesting but the layout and composition so far seems really odd

[Anonymous No.1513742]

>>1513723
This old lady was yelling at me right now because I wouldn't remember a name and I had to smile away and apologize and basically kiss ass.

Then she starts complaining about how they had all this work done on her car and that there's this light that wont go away on her car and one thing after another while the whole time it's just me smiling and saying yes ma'am yes ma'am yes ma'am

Yeah, it's like that :3

[Anonymous No.1513746]

New General

>>90612627
>>90612627
>>90612627

[Anonymous No.1513748]

>>1513746
Nice crossboard link m8.
Also reported because draw threads belong on /ic/.

[Anonymous No.1513749]

Not sure if this applies, but close enough.

Let me feel the hate.

[Anonymous No.1513751]

>>1513748
/co/ has drawn threads please report them too

[Anonymous No.1513753]

>>1513751
I don't care about /co/, but draw threads are generally request circlejercks, your thread about critique/improvement/redlining belong on /ic/, no questions asked.

[Anonymous No.1513758]

>>1513751
get out

[Anonymous No.1513760]

>>1513753
Did you even look? You're just speculating and being bigoted

/a/'s >>>90612627
/co/'s >>>52455158

Stop Hating You Guys

[Anonymous No.1513761]

>>1513760
These are the times I wish /ic/ had an active mod.

[Anonymous No.1513764]

>>1513753
>>1513758
>>1513761


Did you even look? You're just speculating and being bigoted

/a/'s
boards.4chan.org/a/res/90612627
/co/'s
boards.4chan.org/co/res/52455158

Stop Hating You Guys

[Anonymous No.1513765]

>>1513738
I'll go look for that book by Will Eisner then.

Also, does the soft shading clash with the line art? I'm still worried about this.

[Anonymous No.1513766]

>>1513764
Stop being new, if you can't even crosslink don't try to argue about rules with the grown ups.

[Anonymous No.1513767]

>>1513602
Eyes and feet are the least of your problems. Nothing there really has form and it doesn't look like you know how to construct bodies so you should probably learn your fundamentals.
In other words,
>Loomis, Vilppu, Hampton, etc.

>>1513705
Do gestures and anatomy studies as well as figure studies, blah blah.
>>1513729
I don't think Teal should address issues with this anon... Seems like this anon just needs to start learning from the start.

[Anonymous No.1513768]

>>1513766
Stop being a butthurt teenager and go look

[Anonymous No.1513769]

>>1513765
No I think it looks pretty good assuming you can stick with similar style whole way through. I'd recommend doing the opening shot last but since the opening is already done I guess it's a bit too late for that advise

Are you planning on coloring it? If you are you need to study color theory as well, else you will most likely fuck up everything (been there, done that, many regrets)

[Anonymous No.1513770]

>>1513764
>Oh nowy animu faggets are invading muh /ic/ wut am I gonna do ;_;
>I know I'll shitpost till they leave, that'll show them!!!
I hope you leave 4chan forever.

[Anonymous No.1513771]

>>1513768
>>1513770
>based /a/ mods deleted his thread
My sides.

[Anonymous No.1513772]

>>1513412

Nice. Clean it up. Shoulders/arms look like shit.

[Anonymous No.1513773]

>>1513557

Zero construction. You're blindly drawing, there are no forms here. Rule of thirds.

[Anonymous No.1513774]

>>1513771
Why is the /co/ one still up?

[Anonymous No.1513776]

>>1513774
Because /co/ mods suck?
I don't know man, I don't go there.

[Anonymous No.1513778]

>>1513776
Bullshit

[Anonymous No.1513779]

>>1513771
How do you know it was the mod?

[Anonymous No.1513783]

>>1513778
>>1513779
Stop samefagging, it's painful to watch.

[Anonymous No.1513784]

>>1513783
Why?

[Anonymous No.1513786]

>>1513769
Alright cool, though If the layout is botched then I'm afraid I'll still have to do something drastic about the whole page. I shouldn't be afraid of that though. Bad habit anyway to focus so much on what is essentially just one panel.

I'm more up to speed with color theory now and I can say with great confidence that I would suck horribly at it.

[Anonymous No.1513799]

>>1513705
I want you to watch Black Rock Shooter and really think to yourself:

Is this really a person jumping? Is this really what a person looks like jumping towards me?

I also have no idea what you are doing that background, so I'm not gonna mess you up and make some poorly made redline or fix. You need to think about the perspective and know how that left reforms the body position when it tries to come over to the right arm

[Anonymous No.1513802]

[Anonymous No.1513811]

>>1513802
moar

[Anonymous No.1513822]

>>1513799
Got it.

You wouldn't happen to have somewhere with timed references of more dynamic gestures/poses, would you? I've been using some of those timed reference sites but most of them have pretty lazy poses and generic perspectives.

[Anonymous No.1513827]

>>1513822
Pixel lovely

[Anonymous No.1513866]

hao 2 feet
hao 2 natural pose

Scanner and horrible linework rendered my sketch indecipherable, so have a draw-over instead

[GreyDeath No.1513877]

Practicing some digital inks on the pose from the other thread. Really should start inking backgrounds but the Manga Studio rulers seem to be a PitA.

[Anonymous No.1513881]

>>1513877
Looks really nice, bro.

[Anonymous No.1513887]

>>1513877
Put a regular ruler on tablet. Draw line like you would normally using ruler. Done. Easy tip.

[GreyDeath No.1513894]

>>1513887
yeah, I did that with the ellipses on the belt, pesky calibration makes it kind of a pain, start/undo/start again/undo etc. But it is still ATM faster for me to do as you said.

[Anonymous No.1513915]

>>1513717
I know you must be a busy man but I still think that you're working way too long with one drawing and doing very minimal changes.

[Anonymous No.1513935]

>>1513877

awww yeah, post more Dirty Pair

[Anonymous No.1513941]

>>1513866
Hips too high

[Anonymous No.1513952]

>>1513566
Pretty sure it's just upside-down.

[Anonymous No.1513963]

>>1513877
That's some nice inking, man! Color me impressed!

[Anonymous No.1513977]

>>1513866
Make the torso longer. Look at porn or something. Or look for muscle references. I used to make girls this way until I learned the muscles and understood the pelvis and how it made women's hips look so good. I feel that if you get the hips right, your knowledge will fit the arms into place.

As for the feet, she looks likes she's wearing high heels, so draw heels, or flatten it and draw shoes

[Anonymous No.1513979]

>>1513877
looks like 1980s Marvel

[Anonymous No.1513985]

>>1513539
I LIKE THESE.

[Anonymous No.1514031]

Stiiiiill sketching.

I keep getting this urge to work on something more polished, like a completed piece but working on fundamentals feels so productive and fulfilling, does anyone else get this?

[Anonymous No.1514032]

>>1514031
woops just realised how crazy top left's arm looks.

[Anonymous No.1514040]

>>1514031
I get this, though I am very very slow but I feel satisfied as long as the drawing makes me think and problem solve dimensions.

Symmetry is still something I have difficulty with.

[Anonymous No.1514054]

>>1514040
yeah man, I'm with you, I struggle so much drawing faces front on, I find it so hard to apply things dynamically to the picture because I have to maintain symettry, and if it's too perfectly symettrical it just ends up looking boring.
The weirdest part is I used to be the complete opposite, I could only draw faces from the front and couldn't do 3/4 or profile, now i PREFER those. go figure.

[Anonymous No.1514060]

To all of you fellow animu artists out there, what are your mindsets like while you draw?

I find it better to think about cute girls doing cute things, it gives me some kind of mental boost/motivation, jazz music helps as well.

Also how do YOU guys draw skinny/petite bodies? I always end up drawing things "anatomically correct", or at least as anatomically correct as I can manage, and they end up looking more muscly and bulky.

[Anonymous No.1514064]

>>1514040
You should not get comfortable drawing what is easy for you. Also, I expect more from you. This head and face looks too simple if you expect people to take you seriously please work on different things and god damn fundamentals.

[Anonymous No.1514067]

>>1514060
I get frustrated way too easily when im drawing, I think the disconnect between my ability and my percieved ability is too great so it saps a lot of the fun out of doodling.

And if you wanna draw particular bodytypes, accentuate the parts of the form that are characteristic of the bodytype you want

[Anonymous No.1514069]

>>1514064
Will do, I wanted to draw as many faces from here as possible

>>1509123

[Anonymous No.1514081]

>>1514060
I got a wall mirror, tilted it upwards (makes the body look more slender) and drew it that way

or look up references online. snsd and most kpop girl groups have skinny bodies

[Anonymous No.1514086]

Did some face practice, is it good?

[Anonymous No.1514124]

>>1514060
Recently I've been listening to a new kpop album that came out.

I have trouble drawing moe proportions too. I drew this in order of right, left, center - so it took a few tries before I had gotten the body right. Like >>1514081 said, I've actually been doing studies of KPop videos as well (just cause they do ridiculous poses and have a simple body).
My main focus right now is rendering/studies so usually my figures just end up turning into animu characters rather than me setting out to do them specifically (unless I venture into dr/a/wthreads)

[Anonymous No.1514144]

quick wip before work, forgot I had a shift today so I guess this will be stuck in wipland indefinitely. I tend not to ever to back to pieces from a previous session, is anyone else like this?

[Anonymous No.1514160]

>>1513526
I'd say make it look like her skin bulge slightly where the rope it's pressing, not too much though, but enough to make it look pleasantly snug and confining, rather than the rope just resting on her skin.

[Anonymous No.1514169]

>>1514040
You should try to do expressions

[Anonymous No.1514174]

>>1514144
Whao who are you? You're pretty good. Would be art buddies with 9/10.

[Anonymous No.1514184]

>>1514174
im the guy who sketches all the time. Also thanks. I'll have a crack at finishing the witchy girl when i get back from work.

[Anonymous No.1514188]

>>1514124
needs more forehead

[Anonymous No.1514194]

>>1514184
If you have Skype we should chat. I could always use more art friends. Lemme know and I can throw you mine or somethin. No pressure idc either way I just like to befriend people. Polite sage for off-topic.

[Anonymous No.1514196]

>>1514194
hit me up @ pleasedontsleep.tumblr.com, send me a msg if you wanna collab or something

[Anonymous No.1514202]

>>1514196
Alright followed and sent a message. My thinking is that having artists around me will help push me to draw more, since it'll be in my mind so much. Kind of a feng shui thing but with friends and the internet. Also it's just nice to talk art and all that shit.

[Anonymous No.1514233]

>>1514031
gosh I love these

[Anonymous No.1514237]

>>1514124
>those shit faces

[Anonymous No.1514245]

>muh style

[Anonymous No.1514274]

crutique

[Anonymous No.1514275]

>>1514274
refurance

[GreyDeath No.1514305]

>>1514274
Bold cartoony lines, Good. Having them sloppy and all over the place, Bad. Try to have the linework for inner details a bit thinner than the outside contours. And finish off the sink.

[Anonymous No.1514323]

What about now?

Followed ur inskrucions

[Anonymous No.1514326]

>>1514305
I followed your instructions. Not sure if you know what you're talking about. Post your work so I can see whether or not I should keep listening to you.

[Anonymous No.1514334]

back to studying butts

would you a Sabine?

[Anonymous No.1514337]

>>1514334
Shoulder blades are wrong. Back to Anatomy 101

[Anonymous No.1514345]

>>1514337
those arn't shoulder blades dumb dumb They're the erector spinae

I think you need to go back to anatomy 101

[Anonymous No.1514350]

>>1514334
The rendering looks fantastic, care to show how you did it?

[Anonymous No.1514352]

>>1514334
Everything above the butts seem a bit off, love the rendering, and them curves.

[Anonymous No.1514355]

>>1514345
Next time, check yourself before you wreck yourself. Dem blades are fucked. Dat arm is wrong. Do you even hands and feet?

Seriously though, rather than wasting times 'perfecting' your airbrush blending, you need to get back to the basics--Anatomy 101. Your little blending trick is cute but it doesn't hide your naiveness.

Grownups don't rely on cute tricks. Get back to the fundamentals, kiddo.

[Anonymous No.1514358]

>>1514355
I agree with this to an extent. You have a nice line of movement. You just have to have a better understanding of the muscles and how and why they work and move the way they do. Rendering is great just focus more on anatomy.

[Anonymous No.1514359]

>>1513866
why would the strap be attached to the handle of the sword...if it's drawn it would still be attached to the sheath

[Anonymous No.1514360]

>>1514355
it's not even finished yet

your red line is terrible btw, fucking blow me you condescend prick.

[Anonymous No.1514363]

>>1514345
>erector spinae

Wait.
Are you suggesting the sacrospinalis rest above the trapezius, latissimus dorsi, rhomboids? I think you need to crack open your anatomy books again.

[Anonymous No.1514365]

>>1514363
yes

[Anonymous No.1514367]

>>1514360
>it's not even finished yet

Nice, damage control there junior. (I'd admit i was expecting MUH STYLE.)

>your red line is terrible btw, fucking blow me you condescend prick.

And yet you have sexual fantasies about me?

[Anonymous No.1514369]

>>1514360
Don't even respond to him. I think it's the same kid who constantly trolls here. First it was about the sticky being shit, some time ago it was "lets all go to DA lolol", next it was "hey look I'm drawing gook cartoons >>1514274 lol ". Seriously, do we even have a mod here?

[Anonymous No.1514372]

>>1514367
Yeah, I actually think it's the same kid. He constantly uses insulting condescending and inflammatory language to try to get you to respond. This has bee going on for quite some time now. I'm getting Kimmo Alm flashbacks, sweet Jesus...

JUST DON'T RESPOND

[Anonymous No.1514373]

>>1514365
Oh wow! This is embarrassing. So you think the sacrospinalis sits higher on females?

You'r hilarious.

[Anonymous No.1514374]

>>1514369
>>1514372
If you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen

[Anonymous No.1514376]

>>1514374
Could you do a paint-over? That would be interesting.

[Anonymous No.1514377]

>>1514373
except they does compare to males, because you see more of the upper part of sacrospinalis in female as well.

[Anonymous No.1514378]

Uhh what? If he followed closely to the sculpture, then there shouldn't be a problem

[Anonymous No.1514379]

>>1514376
Give me something to paintover.
>>1514377
Yet you still think somehow on a fat female it's where the lats are? ConceptArt wasn't the best place to study anatomy. Lots of people there liked using big words to sound like what they're talking about, sort alkie you.

[Anonymous No.1514381]

>>1514326
>teal face

[Anonymous No.1514382]

>>1514369
Where's your "this is bait" pic?

[Anonymous No.1514383]

>>1514360
Are you Kevin?

Can you draw Reiner from Shingeki no Kyojin with dat muscular body?

[Anonymous No.1514387]

>>1514326
>>1514381

Pretty good example of why tracing doesn't work.

[Anonymous No.1514388]

>>1514378
Exactly.

[Anonymous No.1514389]

>>1514378
>>1514388

samefagging

[Anonymous No.1514391]

Less arguing more drawing.

[Anonymous No.1514392]

>>1514391
why didn't you post a drawing?

[Anonymous No.1514393]

>>1514392
I've already posted several times, posting again would get on someone's nerves.

[Anonymous No.1514394]

>>1514393
You're arguing and not posting drawings. Stop responding to the troll. Dumbass.

[Anonymous No.1514398]

>>1514174
>>1514184
>>1514194
>>1514196
>>1514202
Getting pretty desperate, huh?

[Anonymous No.1514405]

>>1514398

Shut up you piece of shit

[Anonymous No.1514406]

>ITT

[Anonymous No.1514409]

>>1514405
Make me, nerd!

[Anonymous No.1514411]

still wip

[Anonymous No.1514413]

>>1514409
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHH

fight fight fight

[Anonymous No.1514419]

>>1514411
I'm pretty new myself so I don''t think I have a right to critique but her face isn't centered.

[Anonymous No.1514422]

>>1514419
thanks, I'll go fix it.

[Anonymous No.1514424]

WIP. Need critiques. It's for a school project.

[Anonymous No.1514427]

god, I hate doing the lineart

[Anonymous No.1514433]

>>1514427
Did anyone ever post a guide on lineart and lineweight?

[Anonymous No.1514437]

>>1514411
the legs are too thick compared to the rest of the body. they're almost as thick as her hips.

[Anonymous No.1514441]

>>1514350
not him but just focus on edge control and use a lot of temp layers. bounce light goes a long way, as does carving out hard edges with an eraser.

use these brushes:
https://matt-kohr.squarespace.com/dp101-2

watch these:
http://ctrlpaint.com/videos/hard-and-soft-shadow-edges
http://ctrlpaint.com/videos/form-value-and-light
http://ctrlpaint.com/videos/brush-control-pt-1

practice by building amalgamous forms like these.

[Anonymous No.1514443]

>>1514441

Kyle uses SAI though but you're right

[Anonymous No.1514452]

>>1514437

[Anonymous No.1514456]

>>1514441
Thank you very much!

[Anonymous No.1514469]

>>1514433
>>1514433
How I do it - Hard round (or flat for more variation), min diameter 0%, min opacity 50%. Use pressure to control line weight obviously. Determine light source, lines are thinner when facing light, thicker otherwise.

Line weight is less important if your style is value based, just do a thin line and colour it in the end with a clipping layer.

[Anonymous No.1514559]

[Anonymous No.1514561]

>>1514559


No this is not a hot habitibat

[Anonymous No.1514563]

>>1514559
lol

[GreyDeath No.1514631]

>>1514326
This is what I'm talking about. Generally, thicker lines for contours, finer lines for details inside. If you slow down and concentrate more, you can become a fine artist. ;)

[Anonymous No.1514642]

>>1514631
I think you should listen to him OP

[Anonymous No.1514656]

>>1514631

don't engage the troll, you fucking moron

[Anonymous No.1514660]

>>1514631
Bretty gud, you should stay in these threads.

[Anonymous No.1514664]

From a month and a half ago, but still one of the more recent things I actually have scanned, I'm a good deal better now.

inb4 read the sticky/do you even Loomis

[Anonymous No.1514689]

>>1514664
Is it some popular character or you made him up?

Because I'm stealing the shit out of him if latter is true.

[Anonymous No.1514697]

>>1514689
He's a character of my own that I use in a One Piece RP, been developing for over a year now.

His name is Grit T. Write, and he's a cyborg that runs off of coffee and actually uses it for mid/long range combat via a tube system that leads to his hands, feet, and chest cannon.

I'd prefer it if you didn't steal the shit out of him, but I'm flattered that you would like to.

[Anonymous No.1514699]

>>1514631
You mean like this?

[GreyDeath No.1514708]

>>1514699
Actually that's a completely different style, but can still be valid depending on what you or the client wants. And you're still not trying hard enough.

>>1514656
I know, but sometimes it's amusing and productive. I really liked tracing that propaganda poster.

[Anonymous No.1514713]

>>1514697
I'll just cut his robot hands and antlers off.

He will be this simple casually dressed guy in the world of freaks and superhumans. And he just happens to survive because he has fucking cannon in his chest.

Guy who looks like a shitty midboss but is, in fact, one of the strongest dudes out there.

I'll name him Frank.

[Anonymous No.1514717]

>>1514713
So like, my character if he had none of his defining traits, presumably in a different style?

Feel free.

Also, found the file of the first time I drew him, roughly a year ago. Geeze.

[Anonymous No.1514720]

>>1514708
1.You said thick contours with thin inside details, how is that any differ?
2. What client?
3. If I white knuckle any more my stylus will snap. Do you want to pay for another tablet?

P.S. The P.A. is holding the oxygen mask incorrectly. The light is in the wrong position. (The other P.A. is blocking it) Do your research and think things through if you don't want to make such amateurish mistakes.

And stop tracing, that's not the Animu/Mango General way. It's wrong or bad.

[Anonymous No.1514741]

>>1514367
You are critiquing a sketch, you daft motherfucker.

[GreyDeath No.1514743]

>>1514720
1. One is a more fluid contour with varied line where as what was done in the other pic was more of a flat lineweight that can be done by using the Lasso Tool and Strokin'. If you can't tell the difference then perhaps you should study more.

2. Sorry, I was thinking of Professional applications. I forgot the OP (if this is you) is still in School.

3. Use a larger Brush Size for thicker lines. Change the Pressure Sensitivity of your stylus.

PS. Weirdly, it was in the pic I was tracing for a client, probably done more for visual aesthetics than practical positioning. Hand was my choice given the images on Google I dug up. Anyhoo, I was paid for it. Jelly? :D

[Anonymous No.1514759]

>>1514743
1. Varied Lines? Why did you leave that out in the first place if it was so vital? "Flat lineweight"? I think you need to pause for a moment and ask if your creative usage of words to describe things is offering opportunities for miscommunication. Arbitrarily combining words to express a term is pretentious.

2. I graduated a decade ago. What make you think this is a congregation for "professionals" and "students"

3. Large Brush = Large Marking? [citation needed]. You told me to try harder. Well in case you didn't know: Harder pressure means bigger lines.

P.S. Unless that picture is in public domain, or you own the rights. Even tracing the composition of another person's work is illegal. Well, I wouldn't worry, I'm sure a "professional" like you has lawyers at the ready, since you're easily willing to admit you lifted it off google search.

[Anonymous No.1514765]

>>1514759
It's like you're just trying to pick a fight for no reason.

[Anonymous No.1514768]

>>1514765
It's like you're just saging off the top of your head without any real insight.

[GreyDeath No.1514769]

>>1514759
I did say it. Apparently, OP didn't understand what "Bold Cartoony Lines" mean. It is rendering a line thin to overtly thick to thin again. OP was doing it in the original pic, just very sloppily and without thought. Flat (or Dead) Lineweight is what OP did in his/her 3rd pic and can give a drawing a whole different effect. Though still valid, it didn't seem to conform to what OP's intention was in the 1st pic. I don't know, I talk this way to other artists and they seem to understand perfectly what I'm talking about. Now if I were to Juxtapose this with the Gestalt of that... ;P

2. OP posted another pic that was a WIP for School. If that is not the case, it makes me curious as to why OP wants to pretend to be a child.

3. "Try Harder" as in concentrate (ie using your brain and a steady hand) on making more deliberate, elegant, cartoony lines. Of course you can set your program to Stroke In and Stroke Out and set a Correction of 3-5 and make some very fine lines. A larger Brush Size would also mean Bigger Lines. Think outside the box.

PS. Well, you don't have to worry about me getting sued or anything since the drawing is so derivative of the original that a lawsuit won't hold up in court (if it got that far). I appreciate the concern though.

You seem to be knowledgeable in several professional fields. Too bad Art and Illustration is not one of them.

[Anonymous No.1514776]

>>1514769
I like this Faye, I hope you continue this one and give her a bigger butt that she deserves. Something about the boobs feel a little off but that could just be me.

[GreyDeath No.1514779]

>>1514776
"I don't like big butts and I cannot lie..." jk. Though seriously, I'm not really into the extra wide load. To me, I never thought that Faye had a bootylicious posterior to begin with. Model sheets shows her being exceptionally lanky actually. But that's still not an excuse since I draw her with more "normal" legs than extra long legs (literally more than half her height).

>Something about the boobs feel a little off

"That's because they're real." -LA Story

There will be more Faye down the road. I have 3 stories that if I could just get off my butt and draw... -_-

[Anonymous No.1514799]

>>1514779
>"That's because they're real." -LA Story

Yeah but Faye's tits never looked real, bitch wears all kinda push up bras

[GreyDeath No.1514804]

>>1514799
Ballad of Fallen Angels is quite memorable. And they moved nicely in the Movie. I need to practice drawing more floppish/natural breasts...

Damn, need to get my DVDs back from my bro.

[Anonymous No.1514816]

>>1514769
1. How does, "bold" imply "varied"? How does "Flat (or Dead)" imply fixed lineweight? Talking with the same morons like you, conditions you to ignore the presumptions you all share. And expecting that language to carry over to strangers, especially over an internationally recognized web site, really shows how moronic you are with communicating. But hey, we're all professional here, right? And the this stuff is soooo... standardized, right?

2. This is a 18+ board, why would anyone pretend that? And being in school automatically means you're a child? And why are you curious about an anonymous stranger personally, I thought you were here to give instructions? *ahem* I mean "critiques".

3. "Concentrating"? Fascinating! How does this "Concentrating" actually work besides being deliberate, elegant, and cartoony. I'm puzzled by such a strange contradictory grouping of terms. I hope you're not planning on using the term "flowing," are you? You already used, "fluid" and that's a red flag.

P.S. If you were relying on the design--the composition, the philosophy--of the photo to make the same point, you weren't as far removed as you'd like. And if you didn't inform the client where you got it from, well...

You seem very confident in your artistic abilities, it's unfortunate they are unvaried and naively unreflected on. You clearly got the registration side of things down pat. A few hasty mistakes here and there, but no big deal really. We all make 'em. But your design sense and critical reasoning skills seem to have pigeon-hole your view.

[Anonymous No.1514818]

>>1514804
Speaking of anime breasts, does /ic/ think Manyuu Hikenchou is a good guide to do them correctly? (barring the common size)

[Anonymous No.1514819]

>>1514818
Jesus Christ how horrifying!

[Anonymous No.1514821]

>>1514819
You gay son?

[Anonymous No.1514822]

>>1514816
are you that guy who pretends to draw badly by redlining with sonichu here in anime thread but in reality really draws bad anyway?

>you haven't seen me draw 100% serious mode!

[Anonymous No.1514826]

>>1514822
Sure! why not? I think I can work with that role. Is that my only line though? Can you post my whole script?

[Anonymous No.1514828]

>>1514822
Also what's my motivation here? Do you have notes on the character's history? Is there a back story?(I'm trying method acting this time)

[Anonymous No.1514831]

I think my coloring is starting to get better. I still have the linework+sketch layer so any critique on anatomy, colors, etc would be great

[Anonymous No.1514835]

>>1514826
there's this "the guy who can draw great" role, I don't think you can handle it though, you could have "the guy who does nothing but shitpost without any art to show" role though.

[Anonymous No.1514838]

WIP
I hope I'm getting better with this coloring. Anyways, how is it so far?

[Anonymous No.1514844]

>>1514835
"you haven't seen me draw 100% serious mode!"

And you're doing a bang up job already with your post. I wouldn't want to steal your glory.

[Anonymous No.1514846]

>>1514844
I don't pretend to draw good though by giving shitty redline so people could think that I'm not serious in drawing yet!

>also being this affected to make 3 replying post

[GreyDeath No.1514847]

>>1514816
1. Actually "Cartoony" rather than "Bold" should have been the word that was the 1st clue. The example I did from the same reference as you should have been the 2nd clue. I showed you want I meant and you still don't understand. Sigh, and you're calling me moronic. Laughable.

2. Interestingly enough, you are correct, it is an +18 board. Why aren't you acting like one?

3. Why do those terms "Deliberate, Elegant, and Cartoony" have to be contradictory? Ever look at the works of Doug Sneyd? Chris Sanders? Watch the martial arts films of Jackie Chan? Stephen Chow? Examples that encompass all those terms. If you can't fathom that, then it is you that's pigeon-holing your view.

PS. The composition and point of the picture is not the same. 0/4 too bad for you.

Please redo the OP Tokio Kid and show me up. Show me you understand the principles and can do more than act like a moron.

[Anonymous No.1514848]

>>1514822
no that's me, and um this is really my real level, i don't know what you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.1514849]

>>1514847
please stop feeding the troll, please.
PLEASE.

[Anonymous No.1514851]

>>1514846
And that's why you would be better at "the guy who does nothing but shitpost without any art to show".

[Anonymous No.1514852]

>>1514848
then the confusion is cleared then, thanks for replying. I don't know why that other anon was so affected like it hits the deepest of his secrets.

[Anonymous No.1514853]

>>1514849
>trolls trolling trolls

[GreyDeath No.1514856]

>>1514849
Yes, this is what happens when a Troll trolls another Troll. At least I know how to draw. :D

>>1514853
Hit the nail on the head. Still, I like to play it serious. And still it's good advice overall.

[Anonymous No.1514857]

>>1514851
except I already post an art here >>1514411 , you'll probably say it's bad but hey, it's still better than nothing or "pretending".

you'll probably reply all kinds of creative comeback but I know what you won't do!
hint:it has something to do with art and posting

[Anonymous No.1514869]

[GreyDeath No.1514877]

>>1514869
Looks nice. Original Character? Comic?

[Anonymous No.1514878]

>>1514877
sakuya from touhou, not that guy BTW

[Anonymous No.1514881]

Would love critique..other than the fact she's gonna fall backwards

[Anonymous No.1514882]

>>1514881

[Anonymous No.1514883]

>>1514847
1. How's that a "clue"? How well known is that collocution, really? I mean outside your professional friends. Could you cite something?

> I showed you want I meant and you still don't understand.

Freudian slip or not. You showed me what you wanted done? So this has really been about you prescribing how you want things done? Wait! Are you my client?

2. I assimilate with the crowd I'm at. So if I'm acting like a minor, and you know I'm not, and you're really interested in that I am. Wouldn't the more pertinent question be why is that a factor for you to engage with me?

3. I would like to see how you connect those terms without changing their boundaries, or their abstractions. I'm not saying that's impossible--I'm more like saying you seem to be squawking those words because you *feel* they work together. (Lot's of romantic "professional" jingoism, but nothing meritable against any critical scrutiny.)

P.S. Never said they were same, just said it was a part of the Design. Unless of course you're not sure what you meant using the word "aesthetics" (Psst. It has something to do with utility.) 0/10 for you, Maybe you should've actually read a real book, rather than engulf yourself in some pop-culture-education.

>Please redo the OP Tokio Kid and show me up.

Oh! I couldn't show up a professional like you. (See >>1514822) You're way out of my league. I wouldn't even know where to begin with what substantiates _better_. I mean, you use all these fancy terms like you're really in tune with the _better_. And you talk like you know what should be done without making any assessments. It's like you're really intimate with the _better_ choices. So it's a given, I would lose every time against that moronic-self-serving--*ahem* I mean "professional experience." There's no way my miserable talents and shit tier skills could ever compete with your confidence. This who's-got-the-bigger-dick-let's-draw-to-find-out is too real for me to handle.

[Anonymous No.1514886]

dont respond to trolls, this kills the board

[Anonymous No.1514888]

>>1514886
no, just the thread

[Anonymous No.1514887]

>>1514883
i think once you put this much effort in you're not really trolling very well anymore, it's not very elegant.

[Anonymous No.1514889]

>>1514886
no worries we can make countless threads anyway and maybe one day a shining lvl 99 animu drawfag shall come and dawn upon us with it's glory.

[Anonymous No.1514890]

>>1514889
>lvl 99

You play RuneScape, don't you.

[Anonymous No.1514891]

>>1514890
just ragnarok

[Anonymous No.1514907]

>>1514881
Not a redline, but I tried to draw the pose myself but remembered that I have no idea how the fuck anatomy worked so I just ran with it. Was fun, though.

Back to studying...

[GreyDeath No.1514929]

>>1514883
You seem to be hung up on the words that define art but not on the visual. I saw OP do a poor line tracing of a painted propaganda poster. I thought you could do better. You didn't understand the concepts I was trying to get through to you with words, so as an exercise for myself (very fun indeed), I rendered the piece in a cartoony line style to show you what I meant. You still didn't get it, still getting hung up on words when all you had to do was look with your eyes.

I'm sorry that you're mad that I'm treating you like a child, using artsy terms and such. Don't want to be treated like a child? Stop acting like one.

Yes, one can read a book. One can read lots of books on Art and Design, know all the permissible widely used terms. You can still go through school and come out a piss poor artist. What it comes down to is actually doing the work, finding out what really works for you and what doesn't.

>This who's-got-the-bigger-dick-let's-draw-to-find-out is too real for me to handle.

I know you meant it sarcastically, but sadly, it IS too real for you. So have a Pat on the Head.

[Anonymous No.1514931]

>>1514779
Well, I didn't mean give her a huge butt, it's just that it looked kinda like she's as flat as a board. She doesn't have a super big one but she's got a shapely one I'd say. Your drawing though, do what you will.

[Anonymous No.1514958]

>>1514929
dude fucking stop giving him attention

[Anonymous No.1514965]

>>1514958
He's just reverse fucking with him. And he actually contributes to the thread.

[Anonymous No.1514983]

animu, still getting used to brushes on pt sai

[Anonymous No.1514984]

>>1514983
forgot my image wowzers.

[Anonymous No.1514988]

>>1514984

if you have sai, why arent you taking advantage of the stabilizer? your lines quality is pretty shitty, try zooming out if you cant draw long lines in one stroke. increase the thickness of your pen tool while lowering pressure sensitivity, so your line thicknesses can vary.

[Anonymous No.1514990]

>>1514988
I've only had it about 2-3 weeks, what should i have the stabilers at? It's at 3 now, also were do i adjust pen pressure sensitivity, i can't find it.

[Anonymous No.1514991]

>>1514990
the normal stabilizers usually arent that effective. you want to use the time delay ones if youre doing finished lineart stuff. its up to your personal preference.

pen pressure sensitivity is in your driver software, under tool selection theres a slider for minimum sensitivity value, that should always be set to 0 unless you need to get completely even lines.

[Anonymous No.1514994]

>>1514991
oh wait, does that time delay thing have to do with the actual line art layers you can use? because i can't figure out what you mean. Also driver software? sorry i can't computer very well.

[Anonymous No.1515008]

>>1514907
she's going to fall over

[Anonymous No.1515014]

>>1514984

[Anonymous No.1515030]

>>1515014
you forgot the brows

[Anonymous No.1515032]

>>1515030
I'm not done yet, elohel.

[Anonymous No.1515036]

I wouldn't have thought people would recognise Katie Rice immediately from two obscure drawings that are like 5 years old

[Anonymous No.1515040]

>>1515036
sad storyT_T((((

[Anonymous No.1515072]

How do I stop myself from getting turned on by poor erotic art? Only the best should turn me on.

[YellowAngel No.1515075]

>>1514929
You have a poor choice of wording; throw out terms arbitrarily on an anonymous board; and then assume strangers are in sync with you. And somehow it's my fault you suck at communicating with strangers?

>I saw OP do a poor line tracing...

Who are you trying convince here that you were being helpful? You saw something and then told someone to do it like you. I'm expected to take that as advice?

>You didn't understand the concepts I was trying to get through...

And you didn't "see" the deliberate extreme measure I took your "advisement" ? You went into showboating. No assessment. Why exactly should someone render like you? Are you so incapable of looking at the design side of things, you can only shove your lifted cartoony line style?

>I'm sorry that you're mad...

Oh I'm not mad. Don't worry. I'm actually fascinated. It's interesting to see people unaware of their own guff. And I'm sorry you think that others should automatically take your advice without question.

>Yes, one can read a book...

Trying to dodge the point again, are we? You suck at communicating--it's that simple, moron. You may think you know what you're saying. But you don't. What you have to offer can't even hold to the slightest bit of scrutiny. All you can do is rely on echoing things. You fiddle with your own devices and expect other to just "get it". And you think your world of like minded moronic art buddies carries over into others.

Your moral-of-the story spin doesn't change the obvious that from the very beginning you really been making this about you. You know very well, that deep down inside, this REALLY was always about who's-got-the-bigger-dick-lets-draw-to-find-out. You know very well you can't do this kind of conversation any other way. The fact that your quick to say "show me up" tells me clearly you're only interested in getting others to suck your dick. You're too busy showboating and trying to figure out a social hierarchy using your 'style'.

[Anonymous No.1515078]

>>1513728
Me again. I'm trying to salvage the quirky writing of the bottom half, but I'm making the first half of the page soft and digestible now rather than completely overwhelming. I'm on someone else's shitty pc so please don't mind the ms paint.

What I'm getting from the Eisner book is that these wide panels will start the page very slowly and smoothly, and that the perspective will make it look like even more time is passing.

I'll have to redraw that environment opening shot on a preceding splash page.

[Anonymous No.1515084]

>>1514699
>Someone responding to you seriously
>thatfilename.jpg
>top kek

[Anonymous No.1515088]

>>1514857
Except I already posted "arts" here >>1514452

[Anonymous No.1515089]

>>1514852
Tells us your secrets

[Anonymous No.1515090]

First thing I've drawn in PS. I kind of like it, it's so different from SAI, so many filters and brushes.

[Anonymous No.1515091]

>>1514856
>least I know how to draw
But you can't draw any other way and you trace a lot. :DDDD

[Anonymous No.1515092]

amazed at how much cancer fits into one thread

[Anonymous No.1515093]

>>1515090
Them are some hueg traps for such narrow shoulders.

[Anonymous No.1515094]

>>1514889

Why do you anons pray to kiss someone's ass?

[Anonymous No.1515095]

>>1515094
probably because it's not your ass

[Anonymous No.1515096]

>>1515093
Aw shieet, I didn't notice that. T-thanks.

[Anonymous No.1515099]

>>1515095
I'm TLG

[Anonymous No.1515120]

>>1515075
>And somehow it's my fault you suck at communicating with strangers?
wow. top lvl demagog

[Anonymous No.1515122]

>>1514360
I agree with the others in the fact that there's something "off" with the woman's back and shoulders. But I also agree with you that this red line >>1514355
is just as terrible as the dude's rude tone! (I think your hands and feet are really nice, even).

Now, I'm very far from an expert my self, but I did a messy attempt to red line the "problem area". In general when sketching I recommend drawing a bit more analytically, draw most of the parts of the bodies that are hidden too! It's a great way to avoid wonkyness before you start rendering more finely.

Can't wait to see this finished. Reminds me of a certain classic gorgeous marble statue...

[Anonymous No.1515126]

If her right arm is drawn back then that right shoulder blade should be closer to the spine. And if that left arm is drawn forward then the shoulder blade would be slightly turned away and relaxed from the spin.

And that chicken scratching doesn't make me trust your judgment any more so. If you'r going to redline and talk about what constitutes a good redline, then prepared to lead by example.

Try harder.

[Anonymous No.1515127]

>>1514816
>You seem very confident in your artistic abilities, it's unfortunate they are unvaried and naively unreflected on. You clearly got the registration side of things down pat. A few hasty mistakes here and there, but no big deal really. We all make 'em. But your design sense and critical reasoning skills seem to have pigeon-hole your view.
please take a look at your own shit first

[Anonymous No.1515130]

>>1515127
I'm too busy trying to figure out why your shit is considered the model here.

[GreyDeath No.1515139]

>>1515075
Yay! We're still going! :D

>Who are you trying convince here that you were being helpful?

Frankly, you ,OP, since you asked for it.

>>1514326
>Post your work so I can see whether or not I should keep listening to you.

You challenged me to draw something better. Do you not think that what I did was better than your first attempt?

It's probably true that I'm bad at verbally communicating my ideas, (It's why I don't like teaching professionally). However you seem to be incapable of comprehension. When I wrote "Try Harder," why did you take it as "Push Harder?" As for assessments, the following attempts at the same picture were frankly not worth commenting on. The linework in OP's original pic was actually much better than the latter ones.

If I'm echoing things, who am I getting my terminology from? That would suggest that the words I'm using are actually used in practice, and something I'm not just making up. You can't have it both ways, OP (unless you do like it both ways, not that there's anything wrong with that).

I'm sorry you're still mad. For someone who is probably in their late 20's early 30's (if what you said is true), you really are wasting away the Golden Age of your life making excuses and blaming others for your failures. Draw draw draw. Then keep drawing. Why waste your time doing half-baked scribbles? A waste of time and effort.

I'm not interested in the worship of others. There are other talented people on this board that deserve it more. I can draw better than others, others can draw better than me, I accept that. I'm just sorry I can draw better than you.

BTW, this redline is much improved. Please finish the rest of your original pic. Thanks!

[Anonymous No.1515143]

>>1515130
I didnt even post anything you faggot.

[Anonymous No.1515171]

>tfw 0 stabilizers

[YellowAngel No.1515174]

>>1515139
Yay, you're still full of yourself!

Why do you think that was a call for you to do better than me? How did you derive that? Someones asks to see the quality of your work and you take it as a threat? Why does my judgment of your work need to be answered? What's the point there?

If it were true you knew you suck a communicating then why did you refuse to make any effort to alleviate that? You accuse me of not concentrating, when you didn't even take a moment to make a well thought message. Interesting, moron.

Why do I need to know where you got your terminology, to call you an echo chamber, when you can't even elaborate without repeating the same thing with no further qualification? I don't need to know who wrote the song to know the next chorus is the same.

Why would I be mad at someone willing to take time and talk with me? I love you. Spin that however you like.

And why are you so obsessed with my age? Are you uncomfortable with hearing an argument before you hear the person? Words need an authority before you can listen? How long have you've been in that position on the totem pole?

What failures of mine did I blame on you? I've been pointing out your naive thinking, while you've been trying to finger my character.

Why should I put more than 2 minutes into any work that will be shown on a terminating anonymous thread, so an anon who thinks this a dick showing competition can tell me what he would want me to do? What's the incentive here? To thrive off the merits of your quality direction? Your advice sucks. You can't even articulate a critique without implying "this is what your suppose to do". You think cause your work gets kisses somehow you know what is to be done with other's without questioning? You think redoing something in your vain is a critique? Really? How?

You can deny this all you want, and try to spin this another way. Keep trying, it warms an "old soul" like me that you care enough to defend your ego to a complete stranger.

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>>1515174
>?

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>>1514907
I like it though. Has more life than mine

[Anonymous No.1515444]

>>1514818
pls stop, i'm trying to draw. not fap

[Anonymous No.1515626]

Guys

I think my tablet's broken

I cant draw anything but the tablet works like a fucking mouse

[Anonymous No.1516936]

>>1513505

think you hit a nerve on calling these "artist" out what say you?

[D4mation No.1517304]

>>1513566
I wasn`t thinking about gravity, just mere composition thing and maybe movement.

guess if I put the image inthe normal orientation would look a little better - maybe D:.

>>1514160
Will redraw it following that fact.