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A&M Thread Anonymous Wed May 29 14:52:30 2013 No.1461088 [Reply] [Original]

Anime/Manga/Misc. Cartooning Thread

1. Post drawings and stuff
2. Get critiques of questionable merit
3. General weeaboo antics

RESOURCES:
http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/7409774/Vilppu_Studio._(Anatomy__Drawing_Manual__Head_Anatomy_and_Constr

HOMEWORK:
Download the above set and draw along with one video per day. Post notes/drawings made during video in this thread. No it doesn't matter where you start, stop stalling and just watch a damn video.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 15:11:59 2013 No.1461100 Watched the head videos, not my heads look fucking retarded. T-thanks vilppu.

Anonymous Wed May 29 15:20:53 2013 No.1461106
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>>1461063
I just wanted to ask you, is this what you meant by more pillow shaped? Cause this is the sketch I began with and it looks a lot more "right" than what I ended up with.

Anonymous Wed May 29 15:44:29 2013 No.1461128

>>1461106
Two big static forms, ribcage and pelvis, they are connected with the spine, open your preferred anatomy book and study how close they are with each other, connect them with meat and you are

basically done, no matter how extreme the pose they will not bend and the will not be taken apart because they are static hard bones, only the meat piece will bend and stretch, you also need to learn

how the shoulders are constructed, those lines above the breasts that the other anon pointed and said that you draw symbols, you don't know what they are there for, those bones together with the scapula

form the shoulder, you must really come to understand anatomy to draw with forms and not boring flat lines. If you suffer trough some anatomy studies you will stop the suffering from the luck of anatomical knowledge for a long time

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 15:58:29 2013 No.1461140 >>1461128 Not him but do you have any sources about how spine can bend? I know some people can do crazy things, but still there are limits. And i tend to fuck it up when i try to draw more dynamic poses.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 15:59:29 2013 No.1461142 >>1461100 Well, when Vilppu draws heads, they don't look retarded, so you must be doing something wrong.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 16:00:29 2013 No.1461145 >>1461128 the ribcage isn't static

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 16:07:59 2013 No.1461153 >>1461145 I am not talking about the shoulder mechanics if thats what you mean, i am talking about the actual ribs that some people tend to bend along with the torso when they can't bend like meat.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 16:15:29 2013 No.1461157 >>1461153 the ribs can bend quite a bit, thus you can breathe, the lower ones especially can flex heaps, and do when you are bending, especially if you are hyper-extended.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 16:18:59 2013 No.1461164 Is there any other place to download those Vilppu videos? I've never used torrents nor know how to.

Anonymous Wed May 29 16:22:29 2013 No.1461167

>>1461164
no, use torrents, you download utorrent, you install it, you click on the magnet link on the site, it downloads.

utorrent is by far the most popular one but if you want something cleaner and smaller qbittorrent is good too. but only use one of those two.

Anonymous Wed May 29 16:22:59 2013 No.1461166

>>1461157
We are talking about the same thing with a different point to prove, i wanted to say that he should think of the pelvis and ribcage as solid forms and connect them with lines to indicate the skin when drawing so that he doesn't end up with a sausage shaped torso, but yeah if you take it to that extend the ribcage does bend.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 16:23:29 2013 No.1461168 File: 353 KB, 900x915, 1369855204284.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1461106 it does look better, but only because it's more gestural and less defined. I think the issue you're having is that you don't understand the shoulders.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 16:24:29 2013 No.1461170 >>1461164 >I've never used torrents nor know how to. Vilppu might be a little too advanced for you, kiddo.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 16:25:29 2013 No.1461171 >>1461167 utorrent is a botnet deluge is where it's at

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 16:26:59 2013 No.1461173 File: 1.93 MB, 245x246, 1300303594233.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1461166 yes you're right i was probably being a bit pedantic :p

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 16:59:59 2013 No.1461190 >>1461171 >botnet Stop using words you don't understand.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 17:10:29 2013 No.1461201 >>1461164 http://tvali.eu/index.php?action=search1&s=vilppu

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 17:14:59 2013 No.1461206 File: 100 KB, 570x440, Botnet.svg.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1461190 what's there to understand utorrent doesn't respect my freedoms

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 17:18:29 2013 No.1461209 File: 51 KB, 929x300, DBZheads.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Trying to escape the sameface trap. Probably shouldn't have placed Vegeta's head at the edge of the page.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 17:40:00 2013 No.1461222 >>1461209 so why did you use the same face for picollo and vagita

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 17:43:29 2013 No.1461224 >>1461222 Slightly similar faces with very little variation in structure sans the hair/bandages and the same 3/4 view

Anonymous Wed May 29 17:50:59 2013 No.1461232

>>1461222
I drew Vegeta first, then decided to model Piccolo's face off King Piccolo(it only stands to reason they would have the same face being they're the same guy in a way), only to find he had pretty much the same features I'd already given Vegeta.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 18:11:29 2013 No.1461242 Thank you for sharing this resource. I've been struggling lately and am attending more semesters focused on art and this will help me gain confidence. Sincerely, thank you anon. This is magnificent.

Anonymous Wed May 29 19:25:29 2013 No.1461289
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>>1460961
>>1460983
>>1461043
I actually have been focusing on anatomy for quite some time. I just tried to draw a "difficult" pose.

Here I adjusted the back part.

>>1461043
I'm trying to draw the Misaki from Index.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 19:28:59 2013 No.1461294 File: 71 KB, 1000x700, miyako.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1461289 I also drew another one. Her left feet were kinda sloppy. I'll be glad if anyone comments on this.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 20:00:59 2013 No.1461319 >>1461294 Placement of the facial features is kind of derpy. I think moving her left eye of might help. Anatomy is pretty messed up, but you probably already know that.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 20:41:30 2013 No.1461335 >Download the above set and draw along with one video per day Nigger you're supposed to read the manual then watch the videos

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 21:05:30 2013 No.1461361 File: 219 KB, 995x808, prop.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1461335 it's hard enough to get through them as is. halfway through proportions

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 21:45:00 2013 No.1461387 can someone please explain to me how widefaces work in the three dimensional plane? maybe with a graphic or something??

Anonymous Wed May 29 21:56:00 2013 No.1461393
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>Tried drawing someone with fantasy-style clothes
>Ended up drawing Bethany from Dragon Age 2

Disregarding my shit tastes in RPG (I admit it's crap), what does /ic/ think?
Next pic is the pose reference, because I hate drawing poses from memory.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 21:57:00 2013 No.1461394 File: 227 KB, 900x958, 1222572103257.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1461393

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 21:59:31 2013 No.1461395 >>1461393 >I hate drawing poses from memory >anime and manga thread boy do I have news for you

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 22:02:31 2013 No.1461397 >>1461294 her torso is too short (especially near the waist), and the toes are too long

Anonymous Wed May 29 22:08:00 2013 No.1461399

>>1461393

Construction is your friend

Don't start out just copying the contours and hoping for a good result, actually break it down and analyze the features. Focus on the proportions before anything else.

Like this anon said >>1461335

Read the vilppu manual. There's a lot of helpful stuff in there.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 22:09:00 2013 No.1461400 >>1461387 widefaces? like >>1461085?

Anonymous Wed May 29 22:22:00 2013 No.1461405
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>>1461395
Isn't it right to have a reference for poses? That's what I was always taught from my art classes.

>>1461399
I guess I could use more drawing manuals, but 17 gb is quite a lot to download.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 22:26:00 2013 No.1461408 >>1461405 Every byte of info stored on that download is worth it. Better drawing chops or Less hard drive space? It's up to you

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 22:29:06 2013 No.1461411 >>1461405 having a model is invaluable to producing art that is not crap, but I think I speak for everyone when I say that the ultimate goal is to be able to draw the figure in any pose from imagination.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 22:32:30 2013 No.1461413 >>1461405 >I guess I could use more drawing manuals, but 17 gb is quite a lot to download. stream it then http://tvali.eu/index.php?action=search1&s=vilppu

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 22:41:32 2013 No.1461423 >>1461088 >17 GB >not even 100 kb/sec When I finish this I'm splitting it up and putting it on Mega or Zippy or something for you incompetent fucks.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 22:44:31 2013 No.1461424 >>1461423 I'll look forward to that in 20 years

>>	GreyDeath Wed May 29 22:45:01 2013 No.1461425 File: 236 KB, 943x1200, AT130529.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Bam! Yeah yeah, I know. Draw something other than the Dirty Pair.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 22:46:01 2013 No.1461428 >>1461424 Okay it's down to 30 kb/s Can one of you guys who have it already zip it up and put it onto a fileshare over a few days?

Anonymous Wed May 29 22:46:31 2013 No.1461426

>>1461405
>Isn't it right to have a reference for poses?

Being able to draw without references does not mean one has to forgo them. It means you can process forms in your head reliably, to the point that you would never be limited by what references are available to you. If you find a reference with a good pose, but taken from a perspective that doesn't fit your composition, you can rotate that figure in your head.

It also means that you get more out of your references and studies, because you can deduce information that isn't present within the reference. After studying them, you can formulate and retain a 3D image in your mind. That is extremely useful for comics and animation; if you had to copy a photo for everything you want to draw, it'll take much longer, and you won't really know how to exaggerate for effect.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 23:19:30 2013 No.1461453 >>1461425 nah i've always liked your stuff. i'm that vampire guy though, so it feels pretty self serving to just tell you to draw what makes you happy.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 29 23:32:01 2013 No.1461461 >>1460612 I really like this kind of style and feel like I've seen something very similar but can't place it. Anyone want to point me towards it?

Transient Thu May 30 00:14:02 2013 No.1461474

>>1461088
I apologize sincerely for not doing mine on a tablet...
>>1461209
There's more to the face than the eyes, nose, and mouth. People also have variations in bone structure, so the heads themselves should be shaped differently.
And a very helpful tip for escaping same-face syndrome! Don't draw Dragon Ball Z to try and escape it. The creator of that series is the world's worst perpetrator. Watching series that have variation and drawing those characters might help slightly more. When I got into drawing, I loved Death Note. The variations in the characters are subtle but realistic, so I could tell you immediately that Near has one of the softest complexions, Mello has the most alert eyes, at least three characters do not have eyebrows, Mikami has the most gaunt face like a prisoner on death row and Matsuda looks like a green college grad with a baby face, all of this based on bone structure and subtle differences in features. Hell, I haven't even watched the show in four years and I still think that's accurate. But even though I was new and terrible at drawing, I still drew the eyes alert and I still avoided drawing eyebrows that weren't there.
I fell into a rant there but the point is basically that you should find subjects with variation because that will make it five times easier to draw them with variation. If possible, watch a new show or something because just liking the characters and drawing them casually might show some progress in how you perceive different traits.

And apologies because I'm very sleepy today and I'll bet that made little sense, but I tried.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 00:51:31 2013 No.1461482 File: 554 KB, 5000x225, 9.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1461400 no, like this

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 03:08:34 2013 No.1461540 File: 115 KB, 1000x700, miyako Copy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1461319 >Anatomy is pretty messed up How exactly? This is actually my sketch before.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 03:13:34 2013 No.1461544 >>1461540 That torso is so incredibly short. Imagine straightening out those legs so that she's standing. Doesn't the figure in your head look odd?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 03:19:04 2013 No.1461547 >>1461544 Yeah. Now I see it. I'll fix this later and try to post this.

Anonymous Thu May 30 09:46:47 2013 No.1461670

>>1461294
>>1461540
>How exactly? This is actually my sketch before.

You used chicken scratch to compose a contour drawing, rather than starting with a clear pose and constructing on top. The neck is too thick in the final and not centered. Breasts begin too high, don't droop enough for their size. There is no mid-section, no room for intestines. The decoration on her upper left arm does not agree with the direction of her arm. Left hand finger gesture is too bendy, looks like arthritis. Right hands grips knee like a claw rather than being relaxed. Right leg does not seem to connect to the pelvis well. Your attempts at drawing cross contours for the legs are flimsy and show you don't actually know how to draw basic forms correctly.

You can have all the anatomical knowledge in the world, but if you can't draw basic primitives correctly, that knowledge will not help.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 09:57:48 2013 No.1461676 >>1461540 Damn, I use the same method with circles\line to show the direction. In the end, my figure looks like a mummy. Is it bad? Maybe I'm a bit lazy to think myself, right?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 10:01:17 2013 No.1461677 File: 1.62 MB, 1634x2768, IMG_0001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So I just made my first full picture with Copics. I don't have many markers, so I couldn't add much shading. Anyone have something to say?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 10:15:48 2013 No.1461684 >>1461677 Well, you're drawing in symbols. That's the biggest problem right now.

Anonymous Thu May 30 10:29:17 2013 No.1461688

>>1461684
not that anon but I don't think that's true. there's a fair bit of rendering going on considering it's all in copic markers. an effort to describe forms was clearly made.

I'd say the biggest problem is the lighting. i'm not familiar with copics so i don't know how far things can be pushed, but if the moon is backlighting on the figure then there's going to be some rim lighting and a darker center.

basically the lighting is not dramatic enough, everything is uniform and it looks like the figure is just posing in front of a set piece rather than actually in a moonlit field.

Anonymous Thu May 30 10:34:17 2013 No.1461689

>>1461684
I think you might want to catch up on some reading about what drawing in symbols entails, then maybe you have a better time of spotting if someone actually does it.

Hint: A bad drawing doesn't always mean someone is drawing symbols, they could just be bad.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 10:34:47 2013 No.1461690 >>1461677 It lacks contrast. The moon should be bright against a dark sky, but instead it's just kind of there against a blue sky. As for using copics, isn't there a way to make the large areas look smoother?

Anonymous Thu May 30 11:21:20 2013 No.1461708
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>>1461688
>>1461690
As I mentioned before, I don't have many markers, so this is about as dark as I can make it.

>isn't there a way to make the large areas look smoother
There should be. Maybe if I had more shades of blue (I only have one), I cold blend those together and make it smoother and darker. I have the blender marker, but it doesn't help much.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 11:45:50 2013 No.1461715 File: 2.50 MB, 1620x2560, 1369927306406.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1461708 you could always bring it into photoshop for some touching up. i'm shit with color but here's a few minutes of work with the airbrush.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 11:48:47 2013 No.1461716 File: 76 KB, 662x434, so kawaii uguuu~.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hey, gize I made my first animu drawing. What du u think? Reference here. http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lon886agvI1qmgcpwo1_500.jpg

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 14:56:19 2013 No.1461849 >>1461716 epic

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 15:31:18 2013 No.1461884 What's a good place to start with Vilppu? I tried going to feet because muh fetish but it looked like some high level shit. Also, thanks to whoever started seeding that last night.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 15:37:48 2013 No.1461887 >>1461716 taking from the style of Christopher Hart are we? 4 more hours of practice and you'll be right at his level.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 15:48:19 2013 No.1461897 >>1461716 The hair needs to be pointier.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 18:49:48 2013 No.1462033 >>1461708 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99erlgeiIYg

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 19:00:48 2013 No.1462044 >>1461884 Read the manual included in the torrent chapter by chapter Watch the corresponding videos for each lesson

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 19:03:18 2013 No.1462046 >>1462033 Hanz Moleman teaches art. >I'd still watch it

Anonymous Thu May 30 19:52:48 2013 No.1462090
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So I'm a bit more on the beginner side still learning anatomy but I'm getting there though but far from perfecting it. I know coloring on this was probably unnecessary but I was bored, but I can't seem to put my finger on what's wrong with it. Is the Pelvis to wide/big? The hands look way too thick/fat for the body. Plus the lower torso is a bit uneven to me but I'm not sure. Arms look off to me as well but I don't know how to fix them at all.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 19:53:49 2013 No.1462092 >>1462090 how exactly have you been "learning anatomy"?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 19:58:48 2013 No.1462097 File: 1.14 MB, 1131x2841, 1253653458431.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1462092 Well I've been using this picture for a lot of it but I don't really feel like it's a very good tool to work off of.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 20:01:19 2013 No.1462101 >>1462097 That's because it only shows you the basic proportions You need to learn the actual anatomy as well for it to start looking decent

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 20:01:49 2013 No.1462100 File: 40 KB, 570x927, 1253653338126.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1462092 I've been using this as well. also I would consider it more of "practicing" more than learning.

Anonymous Thu May 30 20:10:48 2013 No.1462103
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>>1462101
Would you happen to know any books/videos that I could possibly aid me to help with that then? And I guess you're right there, this is just a sloppy sketch from not too long ago and I can see what you're talking about.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 20:18:48 2013 No.1462105 >>1462103 Just some traditional figure drawing books like the one in the sticky will get you far I know the loomis ones go into a bit of detail on how to simplify the human figure

Anonymous Thu May 30 20:20:48 2013 No.1462106
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An anime/manga thread on /ic/
Well, this place has changed since i was last here.

Anyone want to critique this for me? It's fanart of a guys character from a forum i frequently visit.

Anonymous Thu May 30 20:24:48 2013 No.1462107

>>1462106

They're still going to force you to read figure and gesture drawing books

That guy looks stiff. is he frozen? Also it's pretty flat. and the anatomy is off. and yeah just go study the books in the stick man, I'll just save you some time right now.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 21:05:48 2013 No.1462122 File: 161 KB, 859x645, lel.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] some tips

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 21:15:18 2013 No.1462127 File: 187 KB, 1228x651, glance.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1462122 you forgot to put smoke lots of crack cocaine Helps me stay focused

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 21:54:48 2013 No.1462138 >>1462103 for christ's sake just look at the op

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 21:55:48 2013 No.1462140 >>1462127 actually some ritalin would probably help with the vilppu vids

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 22:08:49 2013 No.1462145 File: 248 KB, 585x795, TOAST.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] any one got guides for drawing fabrics/skirts

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 22:19:49 2013 No.1462151 >>1462145 oh gosh they just get more and more gargantuan but yes this one is pretty good http://www.mediafire.com/download/8w9rxcfmx8536bs/Fabrics.rar

>>	Anonymous Thu May 30 23:14:19 2013 No.1462162 >>1462145 Those knees are really nice. This is much more dynamic/flowing than your usual stuff, which I find pretty stiff. I do share your passion for fat, overendowed little girls, though.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 00:57:49 2013 No.1462204 >>1462122 >がんばてぬください wait what

Anonymous Fri May 31 02:02:51 2013 No.1462225
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>>1462145
This guy is the god of skirts, search all of his gallery to find tutorials, he even teaches you how to recreate a schoolgirl type of skirt from paper so you can understand how it works.
http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=467466

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=27869246

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 02:27:21 2013 No.1462231 >>1462204 It's probs an ugly written ね, and the weeaboo is confusing 頑張ってね and 頑張ってくださいね. Right?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 02:54:52 2013 No.1462247 >>1462127 Do you have that in a size bigger? like near 1920x1080, I'd like to use it as a wallpaper, please.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 03:01:22 2013 No.1462248 earlier, I made this: What do you guys think? Well, I use pencil and paper since I don't own a tablet >>1462232

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 03:16:21 2013 No.1462260 >>1461206 utorrent (the newer ones iirc) are FBI backdoors bro

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 03:16:51 2013 No.1462262 >>1462248 Study your anatomy. I don't know about guns though.

Anonymous Fri May 31 03:20:51 2013 No.1462264
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Need help here please. I can't seem to get the head right, among other things. This is what happens when you go out of practice for nearly a year, at least for me.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 03:54:22 2013 No.1462275 >>1462231 yes, seems like they confused nu with ne. looks like they were writing something like "please (ください)...hang in there (がばてぬ)!" it could very well have been ironic.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 03:59:22 2013 No.1462277 >>1462145 MOAR!

Anonymous Fri May 31 04:09:52 2013 No.1462284
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I know she's on the thick side, but I've needed to practice my anatomical skills with more curving lines anyway so this kinda helps. posting censored version(Idk if I can post Uncensored here)

Anonymous Fri May 31 05:55:23 2013 No.1462308
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One area I've really wanted to improve on is understanding fashion and clothing design.

Seeing so many great frilly dresses with thousands of hours of detail makes me mad jelly.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 06:00:23 2013 No.1462312 >>1461425 I NEED more of your art Where can I see it?

Anonymous Fri May 31 06:05:53 2013 No.1462316
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>>1462264
The head was a bit too large, especially for the neck size, and the neck line was a bit too high up so I removed it in my edit
I also made the hair pop out a bit, but I think that is more of a personal pref.
You're really great

Anonymous Fri May 31 06:47:53 2013 No.1462329

>>1461474
>Don't draw Dragon Ball Z to try and escape it. The creator of that series is the world's worst perpetrator.
Actually, that was why I picked it - the characters all have terrible sameface, so it gives me a lot of room to try and make them visually distinct.

Anonymous Fri May 31 07:29:23 2013 No.1462339

>>1462107
>They're still going to force you to read figure and gesture drawing books
you stupid motherfucker, get out.
jesus christ i can't take it, maybe these threads really should stop.

it should be about improvement, not
>"it's ok becaue this is animu lelelelel"
these threads weren't exactly made so shitty artists can "review" each others art, you can do that on DA. have some standards.

Anonymous Fri May 31 07:41:23 2013 No.1462345

>>1462106
Is that supposed to be a lady? Because if so, the tits look off center. The sleeve is fine if she's armless, but if she's not, there should be some indication of form underneath the cloth. The right eye looks too far to the right, and I don't even know what the fuck is going on with the legs but it ain't right.

Anonymous Fri May 31 08:33:23 2013 No.1462358

>>1462339
I don't think that he meant that in a bad way. Besides we have quite a few people that are serious about there improvement and we get some mindful constructive critiques

from time to time, you are over reacting. Besides if every time some bad artist posted his work or a bad critique was posted and we had your destructive mindset this board wouldn't even exist,

because don't tell me that in the drawthread you only see serious artist that know what they are doing.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 08:57:53 2013 No.1462364 >>1462316 Make the eye lashes more interesting g to lookout at right now they are justt Boring lines

Anonymous Fri May 31 09:16:53 2013 No.1462368

>>1462339
Easy there. I post on these threads from time to tie and yeah I got quite a harsh critique. Him recommending figure and gesture drawing books is really a common thing to reply here.

>"it's ok becaue this is animu lelelelel"
When did that guy even stated anything in that way? Chill anon.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 09:52:53 2013 No.1462374 >>1462339 >jesus christ i can't take it, maybe these threads really should stop. What are you even so angry about

Anonymous Fri May 31 11:04:54 2013 No.1462407 [DELETED]

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>>1462106
Well, since yesterdays failed, i abandoned it.
How's todays drawing looking? Is it any better?

Also, does anyone have a tut on eye colouring. This thing is still far from finished, but i want some crit on whether or not it's good.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 11:11:00 2013 No.1462411 File: 171 KB, 537x839, topheavy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1462277 ok here's an update I'll color this later

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 11:17:55 2013 No.1462416 >>1462411 check her right foot, the way you've drawn the ankle makes it look busted.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 11:25:23 2013 No.1462424 File: 111 KB, 633x761, feets.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1462416 >Update hows this?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 11:49:23 2013 No.1462435 >>1462424 It's not just the ball of the ankle, it's the angle of the foot that makes it look broken.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 11:53:53 2013 No.1462436 >>1462435 its fine shut your face

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 11:57:55 2013 No.1462438 File: 308 KB, 988x1198, 1370013908121.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1462424 still kind of looks like the foot is turned too far away from the leg. i think you should show more of the sideplane of the foot.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 11:58:54 2013 No.1462439 >>1462436 >coddling

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 12:02:54 2013 No.1462443 >>1462439 Not every little twist of a joint is an anatomical flaw. Maybe you should go see a doctor if your ankle is so inflexible that you believe it is impossible to have the foot in that position.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 12:09:25 2013 No.1462447 >>1462443 why are you getting defensive over something that isn't even yours he can take the advice or leave it

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 12:14:24 2013 No.1462449 >>1462447 this is the anime thread.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 12:18:23 2013 No.1462450 >>1462447 because its bad advice and if he tries to follow it it will hurt his poor picture, so counter-advice must be deployed

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 12:18:54 2013 No.1462452 >>1462447 why are you getting defensive over something that isn't even yours he is giving advice to the artist that your advice is unreasonable advice he can take the advice or leave it

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 12:25:54 2013 No.1462454 >>1462411 this is just awful

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 12:29:24 2013 No.1462455 >>1462450 Right now the foot looks awkward and is a distracting element. It's already hurting his picture.

Anonymous Fri May 31 12:33:25 2013 No.1462458
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>>1462438
to add to this, obviously having the foot perfectly perpendicular to the lower leg is not required, but keeping it on a hinge is essential since it has a set axis that it turns on (that of the lower leg)

Anonymous Fri May 31 12:33:55 2013 No.1462459
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>>1462424
maybe add a line and shade the area where the leg tapers to ankle to give it the appearance of being behind, since the foot is drawn pointing directly to the ground

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 14:54:03 2013 No.1462552 I'm surprised so much cancer fits into one thread. Bravo.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 15:37:02 2013 No.1462572 >>1462552 epic xD

>>	AnonKitty Fri May 31 19:14:54 2013 No.1462710 File: 190 KB, 900x1421, Love_Love_Shine_idek.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1461088 >>1460589 Fine fags, here's my shit attempt. How badly did I fuck up with a ref?

Anonymous Fri May 31 19:25:24 2013 No.1462727

>>1462264
The other anon was right about the head size. But also... that incredibly short lower arm! (or incredibly long upper arm, hard to determine from the end of the canvas...) First thing I noticed, I'm surprised no one else has mentioned it! Try bending your own arm like that and see how high up in relation to the shoulder your hand comes.

Anonymous Fri May 31 19:28:54 2013 No.1462729

>>1462710
Very. You already know that you must study anatomy so do it. Also everything is completely flat, you are thinking of lines like lines,

like straight two dimensional marks on the paper, you mast start thinking that they are forms that everything has space. Go trough the sticky.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 19:31:55 2013 No.1462731 >>1462710 Her neck is too long, as is her stomach. Facial proportions are off a bit too. Express the pose a little better too, girly is a bit stiff for a singer. Keep up the studies C-

AnonKitty Fri May 31 19:35:55 2013 No.1462733

>>1462729
I've gone though the sticky, just I don't think I'm grasping it as well as I should.

>>1462731
...Just noticed them. I'll see if I can tweak it.
Thanks for the motivation, least I know I'm getting somewhat better.

Also random question to all. Is anyone here wanting to be a manga artist/writer/etc or it this only a hobie for you?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 19:52:25 2013 No.1462745 >>1462439 >>1462443 >>1462447 >>1462449 >>1462450 >>1462452 You guys argued your dicks off about the foot but failed to mention how fucked up her crotch looks

Anonymous Fri May 31 19:55:24 2013 No.1462747

>>1462733
I only sometimes draw in a pseudo anime/manga influenced style. My drawings have a more European cartoon/animated look, usually. I'm studying illustration, although I'd be okay with any art job that involves drawing (but would preferably do some kind of concept art/visual development).

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 20:11:54 2013 No.1462759 File: 175 KB, 1000x1500, Full2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What do you think about it?

Anonymous Fri May 31 20:52:54 2013 No.1462792

>>1462759
Looks like she has no crotch. Her boobs don't look right either, but then I guess that's supposed to be the effect of the shirt? The top of her body seems to be at a different angle than the bottom, yet there's no indication that she's twisting her torso. Her head looks like it's place off center relative to the neck, and her arms are basically tubes. Oh, and one boot is taller than the other.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 20:56:24 2013 No.1462796 >>1462759 redo everything below her neck

Transient Fri May 31 21:01:24 2013 No.1462799
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>>1462733
I'd love to become a graphic novelist. I'm working on one right now called Breakthroughs in Science. It's set a decade or two in the future, and a new type of toy has been developed, with advanced AI and seemingly a capability for emotion; the perfect companion for only children and introverts. The story follows two of the first models, Jay and Kie, who were together since they were built and all throughout testing, but were sold to different children. This little fucker is Jay.
I have a few larger ideas, but I'm doing this first to get the hang of the comic-making process. It won't cost as much effort on the illustrations (because the things are really just made of cylinders and spheres), so I can pay more attention to effective paneling and storytelling techniques.

Anonymous Fri May 31 21:05:24 2013 No.1462800
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Guys help. No matter what I try everything I do ends up looking like deviantart tier shit. Is it the lines? I can't figure it out and I just keep drawing shit of the same quality.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 21:05:54 2013 No.1462801 File: 196 KB, 2000x2000, char.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1462800 Further example

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 21:08:54 2013 No.1462803 >>1462800 Your lines are chicken scratchy and they lack confidence. Work with broader strokes, don't do the whole multiple line thing.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 21:11:25 2013 No.1462806 >>1462803 Whenever I try to do large lines my wrist buckles and the line becomes jagged or veers. Is it just poor form or is there a way to stop this?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 21:21:25 2013 No.1462811 >>1462806 Stop using your wrist

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 21:23:54 2013 No.1462813 >>1462811 This, and a lot of practice. You don't get good line control in a day.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 21:26:54 2013 No.1462815 >>1462803 >>1462811 >>1462813 thanks guys

Transient Fri May 31 21:29:54 2013 No.1462819
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>>1462800
>>1462801
Partially it's the lines and partially it's the fact that it doesn't look like you've been practicing for more than a few months. I'm not going to act like I know how much you've already done, but it looks like you need to study a little of everything. Check out Ctrl+Paint, or that link up there to Vilppu, and if there are any specific questions you have I'd love to go into more detail because I like helping.
>>1462806
When you're doing large details, you're supposed to draw from the elbow or the shoulder. This is both because the wrist has too small of a range to do a long, confident stroke, and also because if you use your wrist too often when you draw it can lead to shit like carpal tunnel, so save it for the small details. *inserts shitty diagram*

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 21:32:25 2013 No.1462821 >>1462819 You are right, I've only been at it for about 3 weeks. It's not that I'm expecting overnight improvement, it's just that I feel stagnant. I appreciate it though, thanks. That picture helps explain it more.

>>	Transient Fri May 31 21:34:55 2013 No.1462824 >>1462821 Glad it's helpful. I have my own issues with using my wrist; It's a hard habit to break. I've got some helpful beginning pointers for proportions and perspective, if you'd like.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 21:38:24 2013 No.1462827 >>1462824 If you want to post em I'd love to see them. I didn't even know about this Ctrl Paint website. It's great. Thanks alot

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 21:38:54 2013 No.1462828 >>1461425 yes! your drawings are good you got a site or something? and never stop drawing Dirty Pair

Transient Fri May 31 22:06:54 2013 No.1462847

>>1462827
*cracks knuckles loudly*
Proportions are fucking great because they can make or break a picture no matter how good the anatomy or rendering is and no matter what style it's in, but they're so easy to keep in check; You just need to know what to look for. Mirrors are godsends for proportions, too.
Arms:
When down, elbows should reach to the waist, or right about the bottom tip of the ribcage. Always double check this in a mirror if you're unsure. When lifted up, elbows should lift just the perfect height to rest your forearm on top of your head, AKA just above.
Wrists, although they cannot physically touch the shoulders they are attached to, reach just 1"-2" short of the top of them. When down, wrists are in line with the pubic bone and fingertips should fall at right about the bottom of the thigh.
Legs:
Sit with your knees pulled up to your chest. The distance from hip to knee is the same as the distance from hip to wherever on your chest the knee lines up with; It's not the clearest landmark. Distance from knee to ankle is approximately the same distance from knee to ass-cheek; you can check that one by sitting on your feet.
Distance from hip to ankle looks to be the same as from shoulder to fingertip.
Face:
Distance from top of the ear to the bottom of the ear is the same as the distance from the brow to the septum. Side note; drawing lines around the head at those points and adding a perpendicular line down the middle of the face is a great way to keep features in-check. Other side note; eyes have sockets. Find where they are and never forget their presence.

And when you use any one of those, check it in the mirror first. One, because I tend to be off by a few centimeters, two, because everyone is a bit different, three, because I'm short, and four, because I assume you're male and there are probably more differences between men and women than I know about, which is also why I didn't try to say anything about hands, feet, shoulders and hips.

Transient Fri May 31 22:17:24 2013 No.1462851

>>1462847
I should try making a chart or something sometime because that's a lot of writing.
>>1462827
As for perspective (which you might wait a while before playing around with), all you need is the ability to draw your subject at a straight angle and the ability to draw a rectangle or a box in perspective. You draw your subject in the desired pose at a straight angle, draw a box around them, and mark off the landmarks with lines. Then, you draw the same box, foreshortened to the desired perspective, put the landmark points on it, and put the body in so it matches up with all the landmarks. This works for limbs as well as bodies, objects as well as people. (Pic is here javascript:quote('1459086'); )

This probably won't be useful for a while though, because you would have to become confident in your abilities to draw things at a straight angle first, and also at visualizing in 3D space.
Now that I think about it though, practicing with simple objects might help you learn to visualize in 3D space. I'm not sure! I hope any of this was helpful to you, though.

>>	Transient Fri May 31 22:18:54 2013 No.1462852 >>1462851 Fucked up with the link. >>1459086 that should work

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 22:24:55 2013 No.1462855 >>1462145 >>1462411 >>1462424 >>1462438 >>1462459 You got a website my nigga?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 23:46:26 2013 No.1462891 >>1462264 I'm no pro, but I hope this helps. The other two responses were spot on with the problems they pointed out, just thought you might like a visual. Good luck man.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 23:48:56 2013 No.1462892 File: 1.05 MB, 1854x1251, Soldier redline.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1462891 cant believe i forgot the picture!

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 23:49:56 2013 No.1462894 >>1462855 http://kairunoburogu.. tumblr.com/

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 23:52:56 2013 No.1462896 >>1462894 >burogu Could you be more wapanese

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 00:37:26 2013 No.1462909 >>1462891 >>1462727 >>1462316 Thanks for all the tips, I appreciate it. I'll be sure to keep these tips in mind when I do transfer this over digitally. I'll see what I can change now without mucking up the paper too bad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 00:39:56 2013 No.1462912 File: 375 KB, 609x1254, prc.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >.<;

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 00:52:56 2013 No.1462916 >>1462912 my sister draws stuff a bit like that

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 01:12:26 2013 No.1462928 File: 375 KB, 465x538, Capture.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I just started starting getting into art... Here's a random drawing I made. It's horrible compared to most people heres'.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 01:25:26 2013 No.1462936 >>1462928 Reminded me of AVGN hehe

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 02:20:27 2013 No.1462966 >>1462928 horrible? it looks like my drawings a few years ago; as far as i'm concerned you're on the right track.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 02:23:57 2013 No.1462968 File: 314 KB, 1500x1393, IMG.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Cha-cha-cha!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 03:53:27 2013 No.1462987 >>1462968 Size of head, neck, clavicle, breasts, rib cage position, hands, arms.

Anonymous Sat Jun 1 10:05:00 2013 No.1463086

>>1462968
I can tell it's you mikufag.

Although I can't tell for sure since the line is a little light, are we seeing both her legs? In this case, I don't think anyone can bend their torso like that, at least not without breaking their spine. If someone were to try that pose, you'd see a lot more of their back and less of their chest.

Also she has almost no neck, and her breasts look like implants. Give her breasts more sag due to gravity, and elongate her neck a lot more.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 10:25:29 2013 No.1463095 >>1462968 >mikufag is getting better than me I gotta stop lurking

Anonymous Sat Jun 1 11:17:30 2013 No.1463127
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>>1463086
Yeah well...the legs are supposed to be seen sort of, here's the reference it wasn't meant to go this far I was just trying to find the action, gesture and pose with Vilppu's method then one thing led to another and well...hehe

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 11:48:59 2013 No.1463143 >>1463127 The upper torso on your drawing is twisted way more towards the viewer than in that photo.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 12:58:29 2013 No.1463177 File: 177 KB, 1000x787, scan0001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] taking a break from the digital and oppai loli to do some fan art traditionally. I might color this on the computer later

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 13:38:59 2013 No.1463201 >>1462851 >>1462847 Guy from earlier. Those proportion tips made everything make sense

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 13:48:29 2013 No.1463203 File: 129 KB, 850x850, 1370078526082.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Can you bls refer me to A&M artists with a similar style to this?

Anonymous Sat Jun 1 14:23:30 2013 No.1463228
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>All these great drawings.

All this fap material...

I think I'm going to give posting in these threads a shot even though my stuff isn't too "anime"

>>1463177
Do you have a blog or anything like that? I like this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 14:25:00 2013 No.1463233 >>1463203 just that's called an 'anime' style you should look up some japanese cartoons or comic books, which are called 'manga' and nowadays are largely in the same sorta style. the best anime is called lucky star, it's a hoot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 14:41:01 2013 No.1463239 >>1463233 not just, yes* i wonder how i did that, weird.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 16:22:00 2013 No.1463297 File: 294 KB, 891x500, Mikasa Ackerman - Kleiner.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Wondering what people think of this. What I already know, is that mouth and legs are kinda fucked up. Well. I have no idea of anatomy whatsoever.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 16:35:30 2013 No.1463303 File: 932 KB, 1536x2304, 1365229343260.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1463297 Did you follow this guide?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 16:48:30 2013 No.1463308 >>1463203 toradora

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 16:48:30 2013 No.1463309 >>1463233 >the best anime is called lucky star, it's a hoot. You didn't troll me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 17:00:30 2013 No.1463312 >>1463303 Not at all. But that looks really useful, thank you sir!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 17:02:01 2013 No.1463313 >>1463312 not sure if dumb or just happy

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 17:08:00 2013 No.1463316 Let's go with a little of both.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 17:11:31 2013 No.1463319 >>1463303 oh jesus christ is this more christopher hart?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 17:39:00 2013 No.1463330 >>1463303 I wonder if the person who illustrated this actually thinks it's good.

>>	OP Sat Jun 1 17:44:31 2013 No.1463332 >>1463303 I see that bottom one has his "black face" on. Anybody who follows this guide is sure to offend people by accident. This didn't occur to the illustrator?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 18:20:30 2013 No.1463351 File: 1.10 MB, 1284x1062, 11727863.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Did this at school, then tried to color it with photoshop, and still can't decide on whic one looks better Also looking for critique

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 18:38:01 2013 No.1463363 >>1463351 Maybe research how muscles look before drawing a figure with all its muscles exposed? It's really inaccurate.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 18:51:00 2013 No.1463374 File: 11 KB, 803x137, confusedmatthewlovesluckystar.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1463309 Nope, Lucy Star is indeed, the greatest anime ever. Confused Matthew approves! http://www.confusedmatthew.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1908

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 18:55:30 2013 No.1463379 is being able to draw anime a good skill to have, or is it mostly meant for hobbyists? does is get you anywhere / can it help you in the long run?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 19:00:31 2013 No.1463384 >>1463374 I don't know who this confused fellow is but I suspect he's a dumb twat.

Anonymous Sat Jun 1 19:01:31 2013 No.1463385

>>1463379
If you want to draw traps and girls below the breeding age with huge tits for some extra money then yes it is, but you can't publish those things in a Christian country so you can only do commissions basically. If you want to become japans greatest mangaka/ilustrator then no, because you will have to learn the language to a very good level and actually go there and make connections. You can if you are willing to change your whole life but few can.

Anonymous Sat Jun 1 19:11:01 2013 No.1463394
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>>1463384

He's this funny and insightful internet critic.

His gimmick is that he reviews films that got great press and Oscars and shit that he thinks should not have deserved any accolades whatsoever.

Hence this is why he is "Confused". He's completely baffled by bad films getting getting success. "How did this get green lit?"

http://confusedmatthew.com/The-Departed.php

http://confusedmatthew.com/The-Lion-King.php

http://confusedmatthew.com/The-Star-Wars-Prequels.php

http://confusedmatthew.com/The-Matrix-Sequels.php

Anonymous Sat Jun 1 19:16:01 2013 No.1463399
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>>1463374
Here's some more classics.

http://confusedmatthew.com/Star-Wars%3A-The-Clone-Wars.php

http://confusedmatthew.com/Armageddon.php

http://confusedmatthew.com/Transformers.php

http://confusedmatthew.com/Saw.php

http://confusedmatthew.com/No-Country-For-Old-Men.php

http://confusedmatthew.com/Kill-Bill.php

Anonymous Sat Jun 1 19:21:01 2013 No.1463401
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>>1463384
http://confusedmatthew.com/2001%3A-A-Space-Odyssey.php

http://confusedmatthew.com/2010%3A-The-Year-We-Make-Contact.php

Funny thing about 2001: A Space Odyssey and it's sequel.

If you actually watch Space Odyssey, it really is just breathtaking shots of landscape and stuff floating in space. The only part the resembles a cohesive narrative script wise, were the parts with HAL 9000.

When the sequel came out it was universally derided, even so it had a pretty good story. It just didn't have the mind bending visual splendor the other did.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 19:26:02 2013 No.1463404 >>1463394 >>1463399 >another internet video critic with no charisma or voice over ability and no scripting, being an edgy review am I cool yet guys No thanks, I'll stick with the Red Letter Media guys. They actually know what they're doing.

Anonymous Sat Jun 1 19:30:31 2013 No.1463406
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>>1463384
And here's his Spirited Away review.

http://confusedmatthew.com/Spirited-Away.php

It was actually a requested review, so he wouldn't have done it otherwise. He was asked.

He did not even know it was a big movie either, he just reviewed as if were something that just flipped on the tv late at night. He doesn't even remember any of it.

However, he does critique this movie's narrative flaws, and the general public's reasoning for liking it.

So yes, Lucky Star is the greatest anime ever, because it actually has characters that develop over time. Also there's no overly long fight scenes like all other anime, it does not exploit women for fanservice and it actually teaches you stuff.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 19:31:01 2013 No.1463409 >>1463404 Scripting's overrated. Ever heard of "improv"?

Anonymous Sat Jun 1 19:47:01 2013 No.1463421
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>>1463406
>So yes, Lucky Star is the greatest anime ever, because it actually has characters that develop over time. Also there's no overly long fight scenes like all other anime, it does not exploit women for fanservice and it actually teaches you stuff.
You have to be fucking kidding. Lucky Star has zero character development, relying instead on old archetypes(Konata is the otaku, Kagami the tsundere, Muyiki the dojikko, ect.), and is just a generic "cute girls doing cute things" show, of which there are fucking tons, and it's not even the best among those. It's fucking moefag shit designed to push merchandise. It may not be exploiting women in the way we typically think of it in the west, but trust me, it's exploiting them.

Off the top of my head, some better anime:
Casshern Sins
Ergo Proxy
Joshiraku
Kaiba
Katanagatari
Lupin the Third - Mine Fujiko to lu Onna
Nichijou
Princess Tutu

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 20:20:32 2013 No.1463445 >>1463421 what about k-on

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 20:22:31 2013 No.1463450 File: 400 KB, 1024x576, 1350460148394.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1463445

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 20:58:01 2013 No.1463481 File: 376 KB, 586x900, 19.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I heard about that fanpro project and decided to give it a shot. Just practice for painting though, since i feel like i don't paint enough

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 21:07:32 2013 No.1463491 >>1463481 fanpro? Info pls

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 21:08:01 2013 No.1463493 >>1463491 heres their tumblr: http://fanpro.tumblr.com/ and i'll just bring you to the info link: http://fanpro.tumblr.com/post/51783966434/what-is-fanpro-a-project-started-by-two-tumblr

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 21:15:32 2013 No.1463499 >>1463493 >http://fanpro.tumblr.com/post/51783966434/what-is-fanpro-a-project-started-by-two-tumblr Looks interesting! I'm no tumblrfag but I'll keep watching this for now I guess.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 21:18:31 2013 No.1463502 >>1463493 I'm not sure I understand this. "I have no talent plz make things for me"?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 21:22:31 2013 No.1463510 >>1463502 Basically. But it's fun i guess. I like the idea of making your own canon based on a bunch of less than fabulous designs. i don't think the creator has anything to gain from it besides that "scholastic opportunity"

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 21:22:31 2013 No.1463511 File: 11 KB, 499x37, Screen Shot 2013-06-02 at 1.22.20 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1463502 I'm not sure how I feel about this

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 01:53:31 2013 No.1463681 File: 271 KB, 1020x1403, davilppu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Vilppu stuff. I was already doing it before this thread, but oh well.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 03:29:31 2013 No.1463765 File: 730 KB, 1500x1617, Miku.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1462968 Stayed up late tonight trying to get as far as I can with this. Hmm...maybe if I draw that Moot cat being held hehe yeah. Night night.

Anonymous Sun Jun 2 04:04:31 2013 No.1463780

>>1463765
Your head is too round, did you learn head construction? just go to the previews thread and read those, and if you want to go further to the subject watch the vilppu videos,
but those would be a good start to make normal head shapes.

>>1457440

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 09:43:00 2013 No.1463901 >>1463780 Ahh...I didn't divide the plane on the right side of the head enough I think. Thanks for the help.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 10:07:31 2013 No.1463903 >>1461088 Anybody with the Head Anatomy and Construction vol.1-3 videos that would care to upload them to youtube or somewhere? I would dl but I'm not currently able to do so.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 10:28:32 2013 No.1463915 File: 270 KB, 496x859, sketch.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] would you let a loli dominate you?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 11:09:32 2013 No.1463934 >>1463915 Looks like a donkey standing on its hind legs only.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 21:49:02 2013 No.1464349 >>1463915 Why is she calling me a fag? Shit hurts muh feelings.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 21:56:03 2013 No.1464358 File: 893 KB, 520x293, Bullying.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1464349 >Muh feelings

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 02:40:03 2013 No.1464480 We gonna do another compilation image like OP for every OP?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 11:40:07 2013 No.1464692 >>1464480 That would feel contrived. best to let these sorts of things come about spontaneously

Anonymous Mon Jun 3 13:48:04 2013 No.1464751
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Testing out loli physics, as i was drawing only big breasted women lately. I am most bothered by my hair coloring though, i try to improve them from observing other artists but i always screw up.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 13:55:05 2013 No.1464755 >>1464751 Is that supposed to be a loli?Looks like a full woman's body to me

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 13:57:35 2013 No.1464756 >>1464751 If by loli you mean 18 year old boy. Hair's the least of your problems. Children are often skinny, but they're mostly bone and soft tissue, not muscles.

Anonymous Mon Jun 3 14:29:05 2013 No.1464767

How accurately do I need to be able to draw circles in lines before I can start learning more advanced stuff? I can draw better than some 11 year old on deviantart, but I think I'll need to brush up on the basics and have some formal knowledge so I can actually get good. As it is right now, I basically draw curves/circles going over the same spot repeatedly (it looks like a mess of course). How good should I be at said basics before I can move on, since I assume that I'll get some practice out of doing the more advanced stuff as I go along.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 14:48:35 2013 No.1464783 File: 85 KB, 800x1000, alitaagain.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is as more cartooning than manga but let me know what you think /ic/

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 14:50:05 2013 No.1464785 >>1464756 By muscle do you mean the shoulders and armpit part? i wanted to give emphasis there because i think that its a very sexy spot, but i guess i overdid it. Would it be better if she had smaller shoulders?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 15:42:36 2013 No.1464820 >>1464751 Kids have smaller builds in general with larger heads. Pretty sure Loomis had a section on general proportioning from kids to adults, or it might have been Bridgman. I'm too lazy to check right now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 15:59:07 2013 No.1464840 >>1464751 what you have here is a fully matured woman with small breasts

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 16:11:36 2013 No.1464849 >>1464840 Matured? well thats disappointing, i wasn't going for below 10 years old loli but for about 10-12 and i still screwed up it seams. Well i guess ill have to study age difference because its not as easy as it seams i see.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 16:25:14 2013 No.1464851 >>1464820 Loomis FDFAIW page 29

Anonymous Mon Jun 3 17:23:44 2013 No.1464885
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>>1464851
Thank you, all thought i don't think that the problem lies so much at the proportions but in the skeleton of my drawing that i think that
its maybe a bit broad now that i look at this drawing and also the shoulders/armpit part. Other than that i don't really get it by looking, ill have
to experiment a bit, thanks anyway.

Anonymous Mon Jun 3 18:13:14 2013 No.1464923

>>1464751

Breast size has more natural variability and is less important to age than relative proportions of the bone structure. In particular, it is important to separate the concept of hips, which is determined by the trocantur, from the buttocks, which is muscle and fat. It is quite possible to have round buttocks on narrow hips, and that is exactly the configuration you must learn if you wish to draw "loli" with a naturalist bent.

Arms are too long and lack gesture. The bones in the limbs of children tend to have more curvature, and girls in particular can hyper-extend. While this is a style choice, the way you rendered the core suggests this approach would be more suitable.

You've drawn the latissimus too large, and shoulders too wide. When arms are raised like so, the shoulders pinch inward.

The facial features are poorly placed. The eyes do not follow the orientation of the head. The face gives the impression the head is smaller than it actually is.

The pose itself does not particularly suggest a youthful girl in a natural state, nor does the facial expression fit the body language. I'd also venture to guess that you dislike drawing hands. If you must, hide one hand, but not both.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 18:29:14 2013 No.1464932 >>1464751 Too much loomis and classic studies. Now all you can draw is naked men. >taking advice from /ic/

Anonymous Mon Jun 3 18:46:14 2013 No.1464945

>>1464923
Thanks alot, ill be sure to check all your points further, i just starter to get the very basics of anatomy.

About the hands, its not that i hate hands i just like armpits and i wanted to show them, if you have been around the
anime culture for a bit you would probably know that this is a quite popular pose.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 19:40:44 2013 No.1465007 File: 282 KB, 1483x2144, comission3 surprise color.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] feedback on this please? It's a commission i've done for /e/ guys

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 19:53:44 2013 No.1465027 File: 57 KB, 404x384, 1352602718388.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1465007 Looks like someone needs to teach you how to color

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 20:11:46 2013 No.1465036 >>1465007 >backbutt lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 20:15:14 2013 No.1465040 >>1464932 over-applying your studies is always better then, uh... under-applying them.

Anonymous Mon Jun 3 20:52:44 2013 No.1465054
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>>1462847
>>1462851

Random newbie here, this picture seemed to illustrate a number of the proportion rules you described. Not sure how good it actually is, I just had it kinda sitting around and your posts made me think of it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 21:11:44 2013 No.1465069 >>1465054 >guide to drawing the body >running with both left arm and left leg forward Wow fuck this shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 21:33:14 2013 No.1465094 File: 42 KB, 459x600, веселый художник.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Sup ic

Anonymous Mon Jun 3 23:27:44 2013 No.1465147

>>1464945
>if you have been around the
anime culture for a bit you would probably know that this is a quite popular pose.

I used to do pre-press work on manga, including adult manga where there are a lot of first time artists. This does not speak anything to my amateurish drawing ability, just my familiarity with the subject.

For someone drawing actual manga or animating, an inability to draw hands is rather difficult to hide. I would not have to question their ability, since they have to draw many varieties of poses, and many variations within poses. But I do question yours, since this is only a pinup, and the body is turned and the head pushed back in such a way that we should expect to see at least a hint of the palm of the closer hand, or a few fingertips of the farther hand. In conjunction with the left arm that does not recede correctly, the appearance is that you were trying to avoid the hands. That may not be your intention, but it is how viewers may read it. And that's ultimately more important for such a representational form of cartooning.

Show one hand. Show just a part of it. Dispel the viewer's suspicion that your affinity for that pose is due to your distaste for drawing hands.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 23:30:44 2013 No.1465151 >>1463915 Yes, I would. that perspective makes her look more like a wide-hipped midget though

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 23:36:14 2013 No.1465154 >>1463915 yes, ojou-sama

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 00:05:15 2013 No.1465166 File: 60 KB, 550x550, 7xxKYKLkJS4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Mod, is there a problem with my sketches? Or you just mad about ponies?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 01:17:44 2013 No.1465209 >>1465166 the janitor doesn't have to be mad to delete pony related material, it's against the rules.

Anonymous Tue Jun 4 01:29:45 2013 No.1465213 [DELETED]

>>1465209
Not that guy, nor do I care for mlp, but that's kind of backwards isn't it? A drawing is a drawing, whether it be anime, or mlp, /ic/ should be able to deal with them without bias.
If you don't care for it, just ignore the post and they won't receive the help they're looking for. But at least give them the chance. Unless of course their only intention is to shitpost.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 01:31:45 2013 No.1465215 File: 42 KB, 600x362, свеча2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1465166 What rules? MLP is a cartoon. And this is a cartoon thread.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 01:33:44 2013 No.1465216 >>1465209 This >>1465215 is for you.

>>	deadbee Tue Jun 4 03:02:44 2013 No.1465248 File: 28 KB, 800x600, easternnidaleesplash.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] oh god someone help me i just can't do this anymore. that torso those legs that arm that head hnngg

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 03:24:15 2013 No.1465253 >>1465215 Global rules fagmunch anything pony goes in /mlp/ just like anything furry goes in /b/

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 03:31:14 2013 No.1465256 File: 136 KB, 1800x853, 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1465253 And how about "weaboo goes in /a/"? Oh, i forgot. You CAN fap to weaboo, can't you?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 03:33:15 2013 No.1465258 File: 53 KB, 503x800, 123.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1465248 Man, you should read the Anatomy

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 03:54:44 2013 No.1465261 >>1465256 Except its literally what global rule 15 says >All pony/brony threads, images, and avatars belong on /mlp/.

Anonymous Tue Jun 4 04:25:15 2013 No.1465267 [DELETED]

>>1465261
I think that the global rules sould not apply here as you are not posting for your viewing pleasure but for technical critique and tase and morals sould be left for other boards. With that said mlp is not anime but if you post in the proper thread I think that it ok

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 04:39:15 2013 No.1465272 File: 401 KB, 3000x3000, SaberE.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1461088 Wip.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 04:50:46 2013 No.1465278 >>1465267 >I think that the global rules sould not apply here >global rules I don't think you understand what "global rules" means.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 04:56:45 2013 No.1465279 File: 51 KB, 650x461, веселый художник1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1465267 He's just a hater. Don't answer him. >>1465278 I have a dynamic IP. Where's your god now?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 05:03:45 2013 No.1465282 >>1465267 To be fair, what you think doesn't matter

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 05:09:45 2013 No.1465285 >>1465279 Actually /ic/ is one of the few boards that does have a sense of reverence for the rules You can kindly fuck off, ponyfag.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 05:25:45 2013 No.1465291 >>1465279No one wants your pony shit here, pls go. I fucking love filthy orphan pony, you get plus points for that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 05:33:15 2013 No.1465296 File: 59 KB, 569x750, jiraf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1465285 Well, i'm not a fag. I'm not a brony. I can draw any of the cartoons.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 05:38:15 2013 No.1465298 >>1465285 >/ic/ is one of the few boards that does have a sense of reverence for the rules the irony

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 05:42:15 2013 No.1465300 >>1465298 The tabletfags and people asking for free art don't count

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 05:51:15 2013 No.1465304 >>1465300 What's a tabletfag?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 06:02:46 2013 No.1465307 File: 199 KB, 1039x783, plane.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1465291 >I fucking love filthy orphan pony, you get plus points for that How bout some pony-sufferings?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 06:07:16 2013 No.1465310 >>1465307 If you want critique on your pony drawings, you should check the general on /mlp/.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 06:17:46 2013 No.1465313 File: 67 KB, 650x617, kat.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1465310 But most of ponyfags cannot into drawing. It's true. Why should I listen to their critique?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 06:18:16 2013 No.1465314 >>1465304 The people making threads about tablets

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 07:07:46 2013 No.1465343 >>1465313 You just gotta find the ones who can draw, man. Do you think this isn't the same deal around here?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 08:00:46 2013 No.1465355 File: 156 KB, 620x828, 002.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1461088 bored so drew this in paint...

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 08:14:16 2013 No.1465357 >>1465007 When you say commission do you mean that someone paid for it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 08:26:46 2013 No.1465358 >>1465357 Isn't it obvious? Money for nothing, lol.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 08:30:46 2013 No.1465360 >>1465307 Your style is actually pretty good, you seem to have a okay grasp of anatomy from what I can tell. However, careful about uploading ponies anywhere outside of /mlp/.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 09:38:48 2013 No.1465370 >>1465314 Oh. That's a shame, I'd figure this would have been an infinitely better place to ask. Do artists even go to /g/?

Anonymous Tue Jun 4 10:33:19 2013 No.1465384

>>1465007
I feel like the hair could be broken up into more split ends and had higher contrast between highlights and midtones for a shinier effect, im also noticing some white spaces around her bangs and finger joints that you should've taken care of, especially for a commission; maybe try and utilize layers better to avoid that. The Glute to the back is too high up and not really lined up too well as a result. You have hair colour bleeding onto her ear, and you only drew one arm, which really isn't excusable since at that angle the back arm would be obscured alot, but not completely invisible. As for the other arm, the bicep is bent and her fingers are too thick.

How much did you make?

Anonymous Tue Jun 4 11:01:19 2013 No.1465394
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I feel like I got into anime way too early and it's been messing with my sense of proportion ever since. fucking sailor moon and their fucking ridiculous moon legs.

these are some of my most recent doodles. I'm still not sure whether I should try to realism up my style (that's hard) or just break everything and do super stylised googly-eyed crap (that's fun!)
feedback would be appreciated.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 11:11:48 2013 No.1465400 >>1465370 No >That's the joke

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 11:12:48 2013 No.1465401 >>1465394 You're alright, I wouldn't worry

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 11:24:18 2013 No.1465408 I love how everyone refuses to reveal that they put hours of work into a piece by calling their work a 'doodle' when it's clear that they took their time on it. Seriously, why is it frowned upon to admit that you worked hard on something?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 11:24:48 2013 No.1465409 >>1465394 This is the anime thread. It's not about improving, it's about adopting crippling shortcuts that hamstring your artistic development, so stop worrying, you're in the right place among kindred spirits.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 11:26:18 2013 No.1465410 >>1465394 This is the anime thread. It's not about improving. It's about adopting crippling shortcuts that hamstring your artistic development. So stop worrying; you're in the right place among kindred spirits.

Anonymous Tue Jun 4 11:26:19 2013 No.1465411
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>>1465248
I did a not-really-redline. I think your left leg is too long, the thigh is disproportionate to the calf. The elbow was also sitting kind of wonkily. I don't draw six-packs very often, but it would help immensely just to tighten that area up into definable muscles.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 11:29:49 2013 No.1465413 File: 58 KB, 550x359, tellmewhy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Try to practice anatomy >Come up with this Every time. This is why I don't improve ;_;

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 11:32:18 2013 No.1465415 >>1465408 Maybe because some of them actually are doodles, and some aren't.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 11:33:48 2013 No.1465418 >>1465394 Link to your art?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 11:34:18 2013 No.1465419 >>1465408 isn't it a matter of how well-finished it is? like...if I spend hours and hours of work on something, then I'll call it a 'piece'. If I took like, maybe forty-five minutes at max? then it's a doodle.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 11:44:18 2013 No.1465423 I want to try drawing manga pages but I can't find good digital screentones. Tutorials how to use them correctly would be nice too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 11:49:48 2013 No.1465426 >>1465418 I can't afford bandwidth for a real website, so I just use tumblr. atelierilluminaire.tumblr.com uh, there's not much up on there right now. I'm sorry.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 11:51:18 2013 No.1465427 File: 245 KB, 848x1200, Page File06.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1465423 You should probably try Manga Studio. Here is a page from my manga. And it's about coloured little horses again.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 12:22:18 2013 No.1465444 >>1463493 I guess it's a good way to design characters but at the same time it's not like they're your own I think I'd just redraw them without actually submitting anything to them

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 13:45:18 2013 No.1465487 File: 107 KB, 363x973, scan.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1461088 Need redline

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 13:47:18 2013 No.1465489 >>1465423 There are very few practical reasons to use screen tones unless your manga is actually for b/w offset printing, as that is what they were developed for.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 14:00:48 2013 No.1465497 >>1465489 yeah I'm starting to see that after experimenting a bit. Guess I'll look for different ways of shading.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 14:52:19 2013 No.1465519 >>1465497 http://screentones.deviantart.com/gallery/ and just searching google images and deviantart. Don't give up on sceentones entirely, they really add to the feel of a digitally made manga, use them as a texture or a background.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 15:20:49 2013 No.1465528 >>1465413 How is this practicing anatomy? You should be drawing anatomical drawings not Cartoon Network TV shows

Anonymous Tue Jun 4 15:46:49 2013 No.1465548

>>1465413
Stop drawing symbols and what you think they will look like. Until you have some proper practice on humans and anatomy, it's gonna come out weird. Maybe everything except the hair. You got that down.

I'm no expert, but I've been trying to get things down, and what I've been doing is drawing people in different positions. It helps you get muscles down and stuff. So keep drawing, learn what you did wrong, and you'll eventually improve.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 15:47:19 2013 No.1465551 File: 3 KB, 168x192, Vinny is pleased.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1465355 Boom/10

>>	bobby sherman Tue Jun 4 15:52:49 2013 No.1465552 >>1465357 no i'm not like that >>1465027 so teach me so it's funny I got 0 constructive critique, you should just don't reply instead of being d/ic/ks

>>	bobby sherman Tue Jun 4 15:58:49 2013 No.1465559 >>1465384 thanks!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 16:07:49 2013 No.1465565 File: 95 KB, 517x650, jupiter2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I just finished Sailor Moon so here's Sailor Jupiter dying.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 16:08:19 2013 No.1465566 File: 45 KB, 1280x1024, Lenin.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] just leave it there.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 18:11:56 2013 No.1465625 >>1465552 heres some crit summerfaggot. go back to the basics. never look at another one of these threads again. Your welcome.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 4 23:38:51 2013 No.1465772 File: 1.34 MB, 2592x1728, it just keeps getting bigger.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >5 pages and counting >still have backgrounds to draw welp

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 5 01:18:22 2013 No.1465810 >1465772 Maybe it would have been better if you drew it on illustration board or a 18x24 drawing pad.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 5 01:36:51 2013 No.1465812 File: 43 KB, 499x611, asdfg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just getting back into drawing. Trying to remember all from those books is pain. Drawing hands is pain.

Anonymous Wed Jun 5 01:37:21 2013 No.1465813 [DELETED]

>>1465772
>>1465810
wow

Summer really is here.

Fuck you newsamefag.

Also your artwork looks like complete shit why the fuck would you do that why not just buy paper you fucking retard. Don't tell me you're going to paint that dingbat out of shit chicken scratch

get a fucking tablet you walmart bitch

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 5 01:51:51 2013 No.1465817 >>1465772 That had got to be the most Jewish thing I have ever seen.

Anonymous Wed Jun 5 02:32:52 2013 No.1465826

>>1465813
>>1465817
https://www.4chan.org/rules#ic
>Only constructive criticism will be accepted. Rude or offensive comments will result in a ban.

-What is constructive critique?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constructive_criticism
http://ctrlpaint.com/videos/critique
http://moonlightspectre.deviantart.com/journal/The-Art-of-Critique-give-and-accept-feedback-214178779

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 5 02:38:21 2013 No.1465830 >>1465826 >wah you hurt my feelings

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 5 02:58:21 2013 No.1465838 >>1465830 Not even that mang, that one post which the janitor apparently got to was just garbage trolling lol.

Anonymous Wed Jun 5 03:16:22 2013 No.1465850

>>1465408
Is there some magical "tell" that allows you to always tell that people are lying about how long they took on their art? Or do you just like to shit on everyone randomly and claim they're all posers who put up art and call it doodles to try and avoid too much criticism?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 5 03:18:51 2013 No.1465851 File: 349 KB, 1024x3000, asdf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Fixed up this bitch

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 5 03:18:51 2013 No.1465852 >>1465489 But tones can look neat. It's one of those things that started as a limitation but still kind of looks neat as a style.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 5 04:42:22 2013 No.1465888 >>1465826 waaaahhhh cry fucking more faggot. you knew it was samefag and it was horribly drawn

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 5 05:58:21 2013 No.1465906 >>1465817 I do not understand

Anonymous Wed Jun 5 09:19:52 2013 No.1465948
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>>1465552
Word of advice, Bobuel; it aint a commission unless someone pays money for it. People who do drawings for crap like DA points and then call it a commission are fulla shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 5 09:21:51 2013 No.1465949 File: 16 KB, 481x349, newfriend.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1465826 >Rude or offensive comments will result in a ban. I don't think it works that way, Jonathan.

Anonymous Wed Jun 5 09:56:21 2013 No.1465965

>>1465852

Sure, if you intentionally want that look. But what most people end up doing is use it for basic shading, and they use tones with lpi levels that far exceed the capabilities of monitors, getting a muddied, moire mess.

There is manga toning, and there is using patterns as textures. The difference is quite subtle, but it's there.

Anonymous Wed Jun 5 11:05:21 2013 No.1465981

>>1465948
>People who do drawings for crap like DA points and then call it a commission are fulla shit.
Not really? It's essentially just using something other than regular currency for the exchange. That being what makes is a commission; work done for some sort of payment, not necessarily money. If there's no money involved it's just filling a request.

Anonymous Wed Jun 5 11:28:51 2013 No.1465994

>>1465565
I'm the princess sailor moon anon from the draw thread.
Your drawing is cute but I can tell you didn't put a lot of effort into it. You should pay attention to anatomy, even when drawing stylized things. Use references when you're not sure how to draw a certain pose, do figure drawing, yadda yadda you know the drill. Stylization comes after learning the basics of realism.
I like how you drew her hair. Where's the bow to her sailor fuku though?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 5 11:34:51 2013 No.1466001 File: 226 KB, 606x798, thing.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I don't know what this thing is but I hope I get more people following my tumblr because of it

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 5 11:36:51 2013 No.1466004 >>1466001 Slut!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 5 11:41:32 2013 No.1466009 >>1466001 what's your tumblr? I'll follow.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 5 12:39:21 2013 No.1466032 >>1465965 So what is the difference and how does one change between the two?

Anonymous Wed Jun 5 12:45:21 2013 No.1466033

>>1465981
Even then calling it a commission when the "payment" was only for an intagible form of credit that can only be used in one place is misleading.

One could consider verbal praise or the requester's satisfaction payment in that same sense when in reality including these things under the label of commission just makes the term lose meaning.

Anonymous Wed Jun 5 13:15:51 2013 No.1466038

>>1466033
>Even then calling it a commission when the "payment" was only for an intagible form of credit that can only be used in one place is misleading.
How is "I did this service in exchange for a form of currency" misleading?
>One could consider verbal praise or the requester's satisfaction payment in that same sense when in reality including these things under the label of commission just makes the term lose meaning.
This is not even close to being the same thing - DA's point have an actual value that you can use to buy things(from their shop, but you can still buy things), not an abstract value.

You are being needlessly anal about this.

Anonymous Wed Jun 5 14:23:51 2013 No.1466065
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while it was just a daily doodle at first, now I'm painting over it I feel like the pose just looks kinda (if not a lot) off and I really want to fix that. Any help on improving it before I get to the point of no return?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 5 14:34:22 2013 No.1466069 >>1466009 artist is slugbox

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 5 14:37:51 2013 No.1466071 >>1465625 Wow, fuck you too nigger

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 5 14:39:22 2013 No.1466073 >>1466001 >drawing Slugbox shit Don't you give that awful hack any kind of attention.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 5 14:53:51 2013 No.1466083 >>1466065 Just unbend the leg.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 5 14:59:22 2013 No.1466087 >>1466069 That's not slugbog you idiot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 5 15:18:21 2013 No.1466099 >>1466087 who is it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 5 15:26:51 2013 No.1466100 >>1466038 no u

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 5 15:37:21 2013 No.1466101 Anyone else having trouble downloading that torrent? Ive been stuck 84% for a few hours now.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 5 15:37:21 2013 No.1466102 >>1466001 This would be awesome if it wasn't a midget dude with wide hips.

Anonymous Wed Jun 5 16:08:22 2013 No.1466120
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Sup' 4chan and anons!
I drew a protagonist from Kill La Kill,but before doing the lineart under Cs5,I need critiques/redlines!
I'm too blind to see the obvious mistakes-I haven't draw for ages but it excuses nothing-,It took me around 4 hours to draw this on an A4 glassine interleave(and a second one for the shoe xD ).I'll try to update the changes asap. :)

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 5 16:12:21 2013 No.1466123 File: 1.15 MB, 2044x1000, prac_combcc.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1461088 Currently studying nil and redjuice. Any advice on their styles?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 5 16:13:51 2013 No.1466124 >>1466083 wouldn't that make the pose even more boring?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 5 16:19:52 2013 No.1466127 >>1465949 the actual shitpost got deleted 'cause the mods here do their jobs.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 5 16:26:57 2013 No.1466132 >>1466124 Nah. And if it does make it more boring, it doesn't matter because it looks "proper". And besides, just having your leg bent like that looks a little stiff.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 5 16:29:00 2013 No.1466134 >>1466132 ah okay, thanks for the tip!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 5 18:13:06 2013 No.1466190 >>1462107 I have that problem too, my works all look so damn....fucking flat

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 5 18:26:57 2013 No.1466204 >>1461088 We're over bump limit someone make new thread

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 5 18:34:59 2013 No.1466209 >>1466123 I checked their works on booru and seems you need to draw for 20 years and be asian.

Anonymous Wed Jun 5 21:00:07 2013 No.1466281

>>1466120
Firstly, that's a pretty weird pose.
Face looks kinda ok, but the hair looks kinda static, same goes for her right hand, it's in a very weird angle and seems off.
The tits, believe it or not, are affected by gravity and stuff like that, complex poses involve complex undestanding of the body parts and how they work.
As always, practice your anatomy.
Torso looks kinda short.
Legs look ok but her right foot seems to be in a completely different angle than the rest of the body.

>>	AnonKitty Wed Jun 5 22:22:10 2013 No.1466332 >>1466038 >>1466038 you know you can exchange points for actual money now right? It takes 2 weeks and you need paypal, but you still get what they paid you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 5 22:54:03 2013 No.1466371 >>1465826 >>1465830 >>1465888 >>1465949 oh wow, i post one WIP, leave for a while and suddenly people start arguing over it. what happened? what got deleted?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 6 02:14:09 2013 No.1466479 Okay, sketch and scanned time to ink and fix it in SAI

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 6 02:16:11 2013 No.1466484 File: 2.14 MB, 4100x3400, Haruhi Ajimu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1466479 forgot pic

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 6 02:27:57 2013 No.1466500 File: 84 KB, 950x836, Untitled.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] halp no matter how often i'm building the skeleton underneath, the girl looks like she's missing a pelvis and her whole body is too short

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 6 05:50:48 2013 No.1466581 >>1466281 Thanks. I'm going back to practice the basics then(with the loomis pdf). :) I'll post an updated version later.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 6 11:34:52 2013 No.1466686 why so ded?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 6 11:39:52 2013 No.1466690 New thread >>1466689 >>1466689 >>1466689 >>1466689 Hope I did it right

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