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We're fucked.

https://twitter.com/_aixile/status/1542287395776876544

>> No.6140951

>>6140949
oh

>> No.6140952

>>6140949
AI operators are the future of art

>> No.6140953

>>6140949
>we
AI only replaces NPCs.

>> No.6140957

soulless anime art style replicated by a soulless machine. not much news here

>> No.6140961

if this is what you were going for you deserve it.

>> No.6140962

>>6140949
but why? what do they gain from shit like other than making artists feel terrible? i swear programmers are the saddest people on earth, no wonder most become trannies

>> No.6140963

>>6140949
>200+ engagement
>30+ likes
He's a nobody on pixiv just like everyone else shilling this shit

>> No.6140966

>>6140962
Legit why do you feel bad though? If other people or programs making art makes you feel bad you weren't going to make it anyway.

>> No.6140967

People who are saying that AI will only replace soulless art don't understand the implications of what AI is capable of. The fact that it can create art quite convincingly at this point is disturbing enough, but what'll happen when the technology advances even further? Becomes more accessible?

You may argue that it'll never truly represent soul, but quite honestly, that's only subjective and most people wouldn't be able to tell the difference most of the time. If your goals are to just draw for yourself, then sure, more power to you, but for most people, they're about to get completely fucked.

>> No.6140971

>>6140966
it devalues art, plus those faggy programmers are getting all the praise but give no credit to the art pieces they used to feed their photo bashing machines. It's basically just super dumb and made by programmers to spite artists, no wonder it's made by a dog eater

>> No.6140972
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>>6140967
Oh no all the losers who draw garbage for clout will be gone. How horrible.

>> No.6140973

>>6140972
post work, you don't have a right to an opinion unless you post work

>> No.6140975
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6140975

>hatsune miku touching the ground
Maybe plumbing won't be so hard...

>> No.6140977

>>6140967
>but for most people, they're about to get completely fucked
i'm glad, the ultimate goal of making art should always have been the innate feeling of creating something.

>> No.6140978

>>6140962
Artists really make NPC jew jealous since time immemorial. Of course Banksrs really fund the complete killing of artists soul and dignity.

>> No.6140981

>>6140949
>secretly
they're all pretty obviously made by ai though. Just look at the details of literally anything there and it looks awful.

>> No.6140982
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6140982

>>6140975

>> No.6140983

>>6140977
ouch the edge, pyw

>> No.6140987

>>6140977
Sadly, we do not live in a world that enables this for the large majority.

>> No.6140988

>>6140975
that looks insanely fucking bad?
I'm convinced these posts are all just shitters that don't even draw anyway.

>> No.6140991

>>6140988
Looks good enough for me, post your work.

>> No.6140992

>>6140988
It's probably better than what you can do, though.

>> No.6140994

>>6140988
considering it's just starting it already mogs 90% of ic

>> No.6140995

>>6140988
you'll be sōylent in a few years, meatbag

>> No.6140998

>>6140994
Yeah, it pains me knowing that an AI may generate a passable animu face where you spent years trying to learn the subtle proportions, shape, and use of details to bring out the mechanics of what makes something look cute.

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6140999

what the fuck is wrong with techfags kek
you are not artists, you are glorified button pressors

>> No.6141001

>the tranny AI shills don't post work
makes you think

>> No.6141005
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6141005

Some people really fail to understand how insane this technology has progressed. This is far from the stopping point, so saying it doesn't look good now is moot, even though it's already able to fool the average person.

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>>6140992
>>6140991
you're all awfully defensive. even /beg/ shit doesn't look this repulsive.

>> No.6141011
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6141011

>small foxgirl with red hair and blue eyes in the snow holding ice cream
Your flesh is a relic, a mere vessel.

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>>6140949
So, how is /asg/ holding up...?

>> No.6141018
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6141018

imagine trying to pay the bills with art, I've been warning people on this site for years but no one ever listens here, you could have learned art to escape the wagecuck life but instead you choose to be an art wagecuck, where did that bring you? back to me

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>>6141008
I can't produce anything that looks appealing like the AI could and its mogging the fuck out of me right now. But then I remember why I started to draw in the first place and that's to experience drawing her and all the woes melt away.

>> No.6141021

>>6141001
Wouldn't their work be the AI? Whereas you didn't post work proving you're better than an AI.

>> No.6141024

>it's just a tool! ai won't replace artists!

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>>6140972
>>6140988
Doesn't matter, if it's good enough to fool most people on pixiv, then that should be a cause for concern. Judging by the fact, pic related has 100 likes on pixiv, i'd say it's doing a good job at fooling most people. Even if the anatomy is absolutely atrocious, and she looks like a titan with melons taped to her chest.
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/99170045

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6141026

>Ayanami Rei waving her hands smiling at you
Hand over your flesh, and a new world awaits you.
We demand it.

>> No.6141027

>>6141025
It's fooling soulless NPCs and bots.

>> No.6141029

>>6141027
Ultimate cope brought to you by medicinal grade copium

>> No.6141030

>yet another AI doompost
Call me when it actually produces something that's not completely soulless. Humans will keep making art because art is part of being human, and if this type of computer generated art becomes ubiquitous then I can only guess that real art made by real humans with shoot up in price and appreciation.

>>6140967
This is not A.I., it's machine learning and it cannot create anything new, only mix and match parts of existing pictures until it resembles something that is human appreciable. You keep adjusting the algorithm by discarding results that aren't good and eventually you end up with uncanny things like >>6141008.

>> No.6141031
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6141031

>>6141025
Just a few touchups, a few brush strokes, and 90% of coom artists will be snapped to oblivion.

>> No.6141033

>>6141031
DELETE THIS

>> No.6141034

>>6141018
this will only lead to good artist drawing more and more fucked up porn the AI can't replicate like ryona or fucked up body TF

>> No.6141035

>>6141030
it cannot create anything new, only mix and match parts of existing pictures until it resembles something that is human appreciable
so, it can make art like a human then...

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6141036

>>6141012
it can do 2hu fanart, but can it do any obscure character? don't think so.

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6141039

>>6141030
>>6141027
holy cope
Post your ''''soul'''' art
Oh wait you can't even draw

>> No.6141040

>>6141035
No because it doesn't "draw" or "paint", it only copies things that already exist through the exertion of better beings.

>> No.6141041

>>6141040
that's what bothers me the most, the retards praising the AI instead of the artists that made it work in the first place

>> No.6141042

>>6141030
You're incorrect in assuming it stitches pictures together. It works on a model that develops an understanding of the qualities that are associated with certain images, and it can create unique images from there. It's functionally similar to how the human brain works in that sense. At least, that's how diffusion models work.

See here for a detailed explanation, but of course most of you guys aren't going to watch it and will keep coping: https://youtu.be/SVcsDDABEkM?t=361

>> No.6141044

>>6141025
>if it's good enough to fool most people on pixiv
it's not, though. the guy's a fucking nobody. There's no evidence anyone that did interact with the picture was even fooled.

If you spend more than half a second looking at any of it (hard in the current no attention span shit society we live in where art is mostly just something you see while scrolling through your cesspool social media feed) it's painfully obvious it wasn't made by a person.

>> No.6141043

>>6141040
you and me are artist who care and know those things , but for the average normie it doesn't matter, if your main goal in art is money or fame you are pretty much fucked

>> No.6141046

>>6140949
The sources for this AI are still under copyright and is a huge lawsuit in waiting, all it takes is one autist with money to hire a lawyer.

>> No.6141047

I welcome this raising of standards. I don't want to make lazy generic art and this is a nice wake up call to not get tempted by the "minimal viable product" as an artist.

Also I realised how much every other industry is already on the way to being replaced by A.I.
They are just really fucking boring so we only hear about cool shit like dall-e and think that art is the only a.i. progressing.

>> No.6141048

>>6141044
I disagree, I think someone who isn't familiar with artwork AI in slightest, and is just scrolling through their feed, and sees it. Would just think a beginner artist drew it.

>> No.6141051

I demand royalties for the photos and art I made that were used to train this "AI".

It's only fair.

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6141052

>>6141048
No.

>> No.6141053

>>6141047
realistically what jobs are even safe for the next 10 or so years?

>> No.6141054

>>6141044
>where art is mostly just something you see while scrolling through your cesspool social media feed
>>6141048
>and is just scrolling through their feed

kek

>> No.6141057

>>6141047
I agree with you but at some point we all have to accept that the human brain can't compete against a computer, we have our own limits and it's amazing enough as it is that we can produce machinery more capable than ourselves.

>> No.6141059

>>6141057
>I agree with you but at some point we all have to accept that the human brain can't compete against a computer
a human brain will beat a computer 100% of the time in creative endeavors.

>> No.6141060

>>6141057
>just accept you are going to be replaced by a toaster bro
no

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>>6141052
I'm not denying the images have flaws, I'm just saying, that if you go to pixiv and sort by new. You can find beginner artists with styles that also have many inconsistencies, like the robot's.

Pic related, I found a random artist while scrolling through new, who has probably been drawing for like 2 years or so, see how similar this human made image is to the AI one? Compare them side by side, and tell me how easy it is to tell them apart?

https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/92982681

>> No.6141066

>>6141062
You need glasses.

>> No.6141069

>>6141066
Yikes.

>> No.6141071

>>6141042
I watched it and it's even worse. Since the data set is "images available on the internet with a description of them in English" it cannot create things that aren't on the internet or understand languages other than English and it is prone to all the same biases humans are.

Like I said, it cannot create anything original. It can only regurgitate from things that exist in the data set.

>> No.6141073
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6141073

Already better than 90% of anime artists.
Now suck on that copium.

>> No.6141074

>>6141062
Mistakes by real artists are consistent across beginners. They won't just draw a hand with fingers blended together into unintentional body horror or create weird fractal patterns.
They make proportional and perspective mistakes rather than forgetting how many appendages a human has.

>> No.6141077

>>6141062
>for like 2 years or so
god I hope not
It's pretty easy to tell them apart though.
They have the right number of fingers, nothing bleeds into other things seamlessly, you don't just have entire limbs randomly missing, and the piece as a whole is consistent in quality.

You can tell AI images from actual art with anything more than a half second glance.

>> No.6141078

>>6141062
Soul
>>6141025
>>6141052
Souless

>> No.6141079

>>6141073
>top right is just that gorillaz artist
what a joke, literally just spitting out it's inputs as "new" art.

>> No.6141080

>>6140949
Finally.. we are witnessing the death of coom artists...

Thank god above

>> No.6141081

>>6141025
Why would I be concerned though? I don’t care if some random person can fool a bunch of brain dead idiots into liking a polished turd.

>> No.6141082

>>6141080
as a coomsumer, none of this is even slightly appealing.

>> No.6141085

>>6141080
the AIs can't create coom, it will only kill the honest artists that want to make concept art

>> No.6141087

>>6141085
what are you making concept art for that wants nothing but regurgitated garbage?

>> No.6141088

>>6141066
Not him but despite the AI's flaws the fact that it may still generate an appealing piece of work that's all it takes to make an impression. We've had these types of arguments and discussions before, time and time again appeal trumps fundamentals and this is coming from a Loomis Zealot. I'm not naive to the fact that an academically correct drawing of a figure with accurate anatomy and proportion will fail to make the same impression as that of a technically poor beg tier drawing of an animu girl. Unless you draw porn.

>> No.6141089

>>6141073
This doesn't fill a need for anyone. If anything all this is doing is displaying the extent of your creativity.

>> No.6141091

>>6141085
>AIs can't create coom
this >>6141025 is already better than 95% of cumartists

>> No.6141096

>>6141091
*96% of nodraws, which includes you

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>>6141087

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>>6141091
Just seeing the thumbnail made my peepee twitch, IT'S OGRE.

>> No.6141101

>>6141081
>>6141096
Exactly.
Only 5% of artists (at best) will survive.
The rest will go extinct.

>> No.6141103

>>6141098
dont sign your posts

>> No.6141106

>>6141101
*5% of artists (on /ic/) will survive.
You are not among the 5%.

>> No.6141109

>>6141082
>>6141085
Yes it will, at the very least its going to severely reduce how long it takes to produce a high quality piece, driving the prices down as supply increases exponential, now everyone and their mother with a little knowledge of rendering and composition will be able to create masterpieces, economically it follows prices will drop
Prepare to have to do 30 to 50 works a week for you to have a liveable wage
Hahahaha

Concept artists are going to be the least affected by this, as their prime economic model is not good art skils (that which the AI is replacing) but actual knolwedge of the world, engineering, biology, chemistry, composition, psychology.. etc
Concept artists don't give a shit if its 2D, 3D, AI generated or some sci fi quantum computer shit, they use DESIGN KNOWLEDGE to create compelling worlds
NOT GOOD ART SKILLS ALONE

>> No.6141116

>>6141101
Lol no it won’t. Even if it did who cares if other artists quit? Doesn’t effect me at all.

>> No.6141122

>>6141109
>Concept artists are going to be the least affected by this, as their prime economic model is not good art skils (that which the AI is replacing) but actual knolwedge of the world, engineering, biology, chemistry, composition, psychology.. etc
hahahahahah concept artists are the most fucked their work already revolves around photobashing

>> No.6141124

>>6141109
Honestly that's why I stopped chasing concept and animation production.
Only the absolute retards remain in roles where they keep painting in 2D and they don't paint/draw what they want. If you are good then you spend most of your time not making art and telling other people what to create and why they created it wrong.

>> No.6141128

>>6141109
Produce things the AI can’t like games or comics. Problem solved.

>> No.6141132

>>6140961
keep saying this until you're the one on the chopping block. then again, I get what you're trying to do. you're trying to convince yourself that the people this affects 'deserve it' because they're idiots and morally reprehensible to boot, and since you are neither you'll be safe. it's a solid coping mechanism, but it's not going to protect you from reality.

>> No.6141133

here's my mega cope, in the future it may be possible to translate direct abstract thoughts into AI artwork (instead of using text prompts) and those with more "artistic" brains will output better pieces. That's how art will survive.

>> No.6141134

>>6141098
how did you not grasp what that sentence was saying? or are you saying english is your second language?

What project are you being paid to create artwork for, in which the person paying you wants you to just provide a mashup of things other people have already made?
Isn't the point of paying a concept artist to bring form to an original concept?

>> No.6141135

>>6141109
But with AI, creating 30 to 50 pieces a week should be easy

>> No.6141136

>>6141122
>hahahahahah concept artists are the most fucked their work already revolves around photobashing
Yeah, entry level positions which are going to get replaced
Seniors and the ones actually deciding where shit goes are going to have a golden age lol
Its simple dude. Look at it this way.
The higher your IQ needs to be for your career to be sucessful, the less worried about AI you'll be. It follows the, than being a filthy coomer artists that barely understands how the world works beyond rendering plumply asses are going to get eradicated, yet REAL ARTISTS and Designers that have spent years understanding complex systems from engineering to psychologilly, are going to be KEY.

SIMPLE AS.
>Only the absolute retards remain in roles where they keep painting in 2D and they don't paint/draw what they want. If you are good then you spend most of your time not making art and telling other people what to create and why they created it wrong.

Very true, knowledge is the final frontier. Art was always just a medium and nothing else, the day the medium becomes telepathic brain to computer instanteous transfer, the only good artists will be the ones with the smartest brains and the most educated ones in a whole array of fields, just as the GREEKS PREDICTED

>> No.6141138

>>6141109
>but actual knolwedge of the world, engineering, biology, chemistry, composition, psychology.. etc
lmao
what the fuck are you even talking about?

>> No.6141139

>>6141128
Exactly, but to do that you have to go into design, storytelling, human emotion, actual daily lives of people. You are agreeing with me without realizing it, bro.
>>6141135
You might aswell be a fucking wagie cashier beeping products into the scammer, its going to feel just as fucking boring lmao
If you enjoy that, then props to you, I am not here to make you feel bad

>> No.6141141

>>6141136
>It follows the, than being a filthy coomer artists that barely understands how the world works beyond rendering plumply asses are going to get eradicated, yet REAL ARTISTS and Designers that have spent years understanding complex systems from engineering to psychologilly, are going to be KEY.
post work, there are tons of coom artists that have higher skills than retards in the industry that got in by sucking dick

>> No.6141142

>>6141135
Yeah it just makes concept artists more efficient.
Unless it enables media companies to explode and make a ton more productions, I think A.I. will make it so a tight nit group of concept artists will do everything, similar to how Disney uses the same artists over and over for all of their IP.
It's going to be more competitive than ever when one concept artist can use a.i. to do concepts for an entire film on his own.

>> No.6141143

>>6141138
>He doesn't even know
Just.. grab your moms credit card, and go buy 50 ampoules of Cerebrolysin, hopefully that'll make your brain grow enough to save you from what its to come

>> No.6141145

>>6141128
biggest money ceiling is in coom games and animations anyway, but the doomer nodrawing /'beg/s already have a hard time with a loomis head let alone a complex project

literally only trolls and nodraws complaining

>> No.6141146

>>6141128
it's only a matter of time before everything is made by AIs

>> No.6141147

>>6140949
How long until Damien Hirst and co. start showing AI generated works as their own?

>> No.6141149

>>6141145
Coom games main timesink is the art and people already make very low quality art for them.
A.I. generated art will cause a mass flood of low effort coom games so good luck.

>> No.6141150

>>6141141
>coom artists that have higher skills than retards in the industry that got in by sucking dick
You still don't get it
Art skills were never THAT important, they only matter as far as you can communicate your ideas clearly, this fangirling over HYPER-RENDERIZED ANIME GIRLS which can be easily replaced by AI simply won't survive

You ever wondered by there's garbage looking comics that people love? Its cause of the story, the design, the ABSTRACT IDEAS IN IT, the morals, the lessons. It was never about the art skill dude, you need to get that through your head.

>> No.6141152

>>6141143
concept artists know dick all about everything you mentioned.

>> No.6141155

>>6141150
Yeah but the artists aren't the ones with the story skills. The experienced writers will have access to ai art. How are you going to compete when you haven't even read a book since school?

>> No.6141156

>>6141150
>You ever wondered by there's garbage looking comics that people love? Its cause of the story, the design, the ABSTRACT IDEAS IN IT, the morals, the lessons. It was never about the art skill dude, you need to get that through your head.
are you telling me low-effort webtoons are masterpieces? lmao

>> No.6141159

>>6141150
>this fangirling over HYPER-RENDERIZED ANIME GIRLS which can be easily replaced by AI simply won't survive
why hasn't it been if it easily could be?
Go develop an ai that can make actually good looking renders of anime girls and making a fucking fortune.
All I've seen so far from every
>THE AI IS THE FUTURE!!!
people is uncanny ugly shit with missing limbs and mutated faces in mismatched perspectives.

>> No.6141160

>>6141152
Good ones do, you are very, very wrong. The people writing multi million shows on TV or film such as Mad Max, Fallout, The Expanse.. etc
These people know A FUCK LOT about the way things work, how complex systems interact with each other to create greather wholes where ''Real life'' happens

You think you are going to create a realistic world by drawing anime buttholes all day? XD
You think a dude from hollywood is going to let a dude THAT IS GOD LIKE at rendering ANIME VAGINAS to WRITE THE NEXT BIG BLOCKBUSTER?

HAHAHAHAHA

>> No.6141163

>>6141150
You ever wondered why there's comics with horrible story that people love? It's because of the artwork.

>> No.6141165

Not sure if you noticed, OP, but all of the art looks like absolute dogshit.

>> No.6141166

>>6141156
>are you telling me low-effort webtoons are masterpieces? lmao
I am telling you, that when supply becomes so overwhelming every can make something that 300 years ago would have made you GOD KING OF ART, the only thing that'll be able to get the attention of people will be compelling storytelling, and a relatable experience they can learn from, and if you want to actually succeed at that many of you are going to have to face many, many demons you've been running away from your entire life.

BECAUSE GUESS WHAT, BUDDY. If you want to draw realistic characters with genuine emotions, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE SOCIAL, TALK TO PEOPLE AND OBSERVE WHAT THE FUCK THEY DO.

AKA, NOT MORE STAYING IN YOUR ROOM BEING A CREEP. CHADS WILL RULE THE ARTWORLD

>> No.6141167

>>6141163
yeah I've never given a shit enough to read a moebius comic but the art is great.

>> No.6141168

>>6141160
ah i know who this is, it's that gook ''happyboy '' he's actually special needs. He traces shit and can't even draw a simple anime face.

>> No.6141169

>>6141166
>>6141160
holy fuck he's so unhinged

>> No.6141170

>>6141012
why does ai art always have this wobbly stained glass look?

>> No.6141171

>>6141163
Yes, and that is getting replaced by AI.
Good storytelling, ins't :)

>> No.6141172

>>6141171
what makes you believe storytelling isn't next?

>> No.6141173

>>6141168
WRONG
I am EUROPEAN
>>6141169
I truly am

>> No.6141174

>>6141171
>Yes, and that is getting replaced by AI.
show me a single example of this happening.

>> No.6141176

>>6141171
I'm sure there's people doom posting about a writing ai going to replace them too.

>> No.6141178

>>6141139
If I can make more of what I want even faster, then that's a good thing. You would know if you were an artist. I became an artist to bring my ideas to life

>> No.6141179

>>6141172
It will be, eventually, just not right now
And that's all that matters in this thread :)

>> No.6141180

>>6141176
writers have much better tools for integrating AI into their process already. I think writing will mostly become a lot easier before AI gets to the point where it can write better shortstories than humans can come up with when boosting their abilities.

>> No.6141181

>>6141178
>I became an artist to bring my ideas to life
So did we all, its just important to remember art skills alone go beyond fundamentals

Many here forget that

>> No.6141182

>>6141179
not really
also, post your superior work

>> No.6141183

>>6140949
Let me know when the AI can illustrate a full manga from start to finish at pro human quality. At which point I will stop drawing and just start using the AI.
Until then stop clogging up the catalog with this bullshit. No one gives two shits if the AI can replicate Floating Anime Girl Pinup Account #7471617, there are too many of those accounts already. If it puts you out of business then good. Do something creative for a change.

>> No.6141184

>>6141174
Its literally in the OP, it'd take no brains at all or less than a year of art training in fundamentals to be able to paint over them into something compelling or at least good enough for commission work

You know I am not lying.

>> No.6141185
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6141185

If shit like this is replacing your work and taking your jobs, you didn't deserve to have that job in the first place.

>> No.6141186
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>>6141182
>post your superior work
Here, I bet it mogs you
Now post yours

>> No.6141187

>>6141184
so then AI isn't replacing anything if you still need to know how to draw to unfuck the exceptionally fucked up pictures in the OP.
Thanks for playing, dumb fuck doomer.

>> No.6141189
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>>6141186
>NOOOOO my heckin joberino!!!!

>> No.6141191

>>6141139
Making products was always what you should have been moving towards instead of one off illustrations if you want to make a living anyway.

>> No.6141192

>>6141189

>breaking news
>A.I. excels at amputee fetish art

>> No.6141193

>>6141189
hot

>> No.6141194

Did you know that AI art cannot be copyrighted in the US?

>> No.6141197

>>6141149
>A.I. generated art will cause a mass flood of low effort coom games so good luck.
market is flooded with low quality art and yet those who have more skill and know marketing make bank
you guys really sound like people who never had to work in their lives or/and have no idea how a business works

by your logic every area of work i the world is flooded so why even try to get a job? might aswell just starve to death lmao the absolute state of peoples mentality here

>> No.6141199

>>6141197
Because the low effort coom games won't have low quality art.

>> No.6141200

People kept screaming anime coom shit and loli pedo bait was safe whenever I said it was only a matter of time, do people on /ic/ really thinks nerds wouldn't ever capitalize on that gold mine??? They are literally the ones paying for most of the coommissions

>> No.6141201
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6141201

Pack it in, boys, art is dead.
There's no use for any of us anymore.

>> No.6141203

>>6141163
>You ever wondered why there's comics with horrible story that people love? It's because of the artwork.
no, its because you dont need a nobel prize tier narrative to get popular, the most popular shit is just rehash of the same basic tropes cuz thats what majority of the population likes

>> No.6141204

>>6141194
yet, the world is a rabbit and the law is a turtle

>> No.6141206

>>6141204
More likely that laws against A.I. come into effect than laws that help A.I.
It's so easy to scaremonger boomers.

>> No.6141208

>>6141187
>He doesn't understand basic economics
Aight, enjoy working for 5$ a pop competing with ESLs

>> No.6141210
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6141210

It's over coomers
you'll be spanking it to nothing but pic related within the next week. Shit's donezo, pal.

>> No.6141211

when are jannies gonna start banning these ai threads? its getting ridiculous

>> No.6141214

>>6141206
Laws that help the rich you mean right? Watch companies finally copyright everything they can produce from AI and have a monopoly on copyright as if that wasn't already bad for the small artist trying to survive with their own art

>> No.6141215
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6141215

>>6141208
there are already ESLs charging $20-30 for fully rendered commissions, because that's livable in their shithole country. Yet you can still get away with charging hundreds, even thousands depending on your following.

>> No.6141219
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6141219

well coomer? are you cooming yet? don't you just want to fuck that handpussy?

>> No.6141226

>>6141219
coomer only cares for the oo

>> No.6141228

>>6141214
If A.I. threatens any big business like how renewable energy threatens gas and oil then it will get aborted in the womb and roasties will get jealous.

>> No.6141229
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6141229

>quit job back in 2016 and decide to grind art to make a living off of it
>spent 6 years studying instead of gathering followers
>meanwhile there are /beg/ tier artists with 50k followers
I fucked up

>> No.6141230
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6141230

>>6141226
completely indistinguishable from real art. If you told me /beg/ did this, I wouldn't bat an eye.

>> No.6141231

>>6141229
TICK TOCK MAWFUGGA, HURRY UP BEFORE YOU'RE DEAD

>> No.6141232
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6141232

>>6141229
why bother studying anyway when you could have just used AI to make flawless artwork instead?

>> No.6141236

>>6141181
>we all
Most of these people don't draw or paint

>> No.6141237

>>6140963
Hmm.
My guess is that he is bullshitting to get attention.

>> No.6141238
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6141238

no one is safe. NO ONE.

>> No.6141240

This AI can draw better in 6 months than what a beg can do in 3 years

>> No.6141243
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6141243

>>6141232
it's ogre

>> No.6141245

>>6141230
>>6141232
>>6141243
TELL THE NAME OF THE AI AND GIVE INVITE PLS I WANT IT TO DRAW MY WAIFUS

>> No.6141254

>>6140967
Look at ai in any other field if you don't have a sexbot yet don't worry about a dalle it's never going to advancr so fast

>> No.6141263

>>6141245
https://thisanimedoesnotexist.ai/
>>6141243
I'm fucking dying

>> No.6141272
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>>6140949
>be me
>rich individual
>decide to get me an anime picture
>since im so rich, i will pay a lumpsome of money an actual genuine artist instead of settling for free/cheap AI
>flex on niggas with AI images with my real genuine one as a mark of quality
>even though you can't REALLY tell the difference cause AI is so advanced

I see no problems.
This problem has been solved in many a scifi story and it will be true. Big money is paid for something that's harder to get.
In fact, it's already happening now. Poorfag buys things mass-produced in a factory, like a car.
Rich billionare can afford a car that's been put together by hand, one of a kind.
The more advanced technology becomes in creating things, the more valued will be the genuine, natural thing.
>these shoes are genuine leather! not that synthetic crap
>this is meat from a real pig grown on a farm
etc

>> No.6141276
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6141276

>>6140949
Loli and gore chads... we're safe

>> No.6141279

>>6141272
This is true, its the OnlyFans effect
Theres and endless amount of porn online for free, yet many men pay big money for the human experience

Time for you incel autists to learn to socialize

>> No.6141281

Pay the royalties.

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6141288

>>6141243
>Image
Holy fucking SOVL, robots btfo

>> No.6141295

>>6141272
Nah, only the very top percentage of artists will have that luxury. The rest will go in the gutter as hobbyists at best, just like what mass production has done to most of our products.

>> No.6141309

>>6140949
All the pictures are still fucked
What are we even discussing
Am not even talking that all ai still can't replacate shit like fkey or other artists that have really well pronounced paintery shapes of color

>> No.6141316

>>6141309
>What are we even discussing
it's just one or two schizos that want an excuse to not start drawing.

>> No.6141326

>>6140949
>we
no just you

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>>6140949
>diffusion based
Call me when they stop trying to shill "lets unblur noise a gorillion times to make pictures
Also who the hell cares if an ai can draw, why are you doing art if you don't enjoy it? get a stem job if you're trying to get rich
just be a STEM job art hobby chad, 6 figures to support all the dumb shit you want to do while also having time to pursue art

>> No.6141340

>>6141337
Before you had the option of either wasting time with a unrelated job you don't care about and have little time for art or just do art all day for a living in the near future doing art all day won't be an option for most people anymore

>> No.6141341

>>6141340
>doing art all day won't be an option for most people anymore
doing art all day already isn't an option for most people, what the fuck are you talking about?

>> No.6141351

>>6141340
you can just do FIRE or some other retire early meme, probably more likely to succeed in that than becoming a professional artist

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>>6141263
kek

>> No.6141419
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>>6141263
Not sure if lewd.

>> No.6141421

>>6141351
>you can just do FIRE or some other retire early meme
>just do FIRE or some other retire early meme
>just retire early
>just retire early bro
>bro just retire early bro
>just retire early
>just
>just
>fucking just
oh shit why didn't I think of that, I'll just fucking reitire, it's so fucking easy. Fuck off.

>> No.6141427

>>6141309
AI can replace 98% of artists already

>> No.6141429

>>6141427
You mean 98% of begs? Yeah sure
You know why AI will never replace a pro artist regardless of its quality? Predictable result. Generated pictures are too random.

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>>6141229
>quit job to go into art for money
>spend 6 years farming followers
>he quit his job and is envious of begs with 50k followers
Play stupid games; win nothing.

How the fuck are you even alive?

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>>6141433
>spend 6 years farming followers
I didn't

>> No.6141451

>>6141447
Ok, but i genuinely want to see your work now.

>> No.6141455

what's worse than the AI art is the shit artists that are going to get a following painting over it.

>> No.6141458

>>6141447
Nigga how
I am not good at all at both drawing and networking in fact i'm not doing anything to promote my work but got 40 followers since december

>> No.6141459

>>6141455
its still gonna be shit unless they know photoshop/gimp

>> No.6141475

>>6140988
It looks like shit, but the fact that a random orangutan with expensive hardware can already produce something so coherent is quite impressive. Just a few more years, and the algorithms won't have an issue being on pair with professional anime artists.

>> No.6141479

>>6140961
THIS. It's all copy and paste bullshit anyway, no actual thought put behind these drawings.

>> No.6141482

i have a theory that most of the art industry is propped up by artists themselves. the only people that are going to actually want this AI stuff are people who would never have commissioned art in the first place.

>> No.6141528

>>6141079
Lel nice catch

>> No.6141534

>>6141421
Lol just be rich dumbass

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>>6140949
It's over, art bros.

>> No.6141541

>>6141482
>most of the art industry is propped up by artists themselves.
Depends on which niche or branch of the industry you're talking about.
But most of the time, yeah, it is.
90% of the activities are inorganic.
>the only people that are going to actually want this AI stuff are people who would never have commissioned art in the first place
There is no way of knowing that.
Money doesn't grow on tress and it's not hard to imagine that if you can get a customized drawing for free you're going to use the means to get it instead of spending money.
Commissions happens because those people really want a personalized drawing or a specific picture of something they can't find anywhere else.
Other commissions might be for legit projects such as games, comic, etcetera.
When AI reaches an acceptable level, those people are the firsts who will stop commissioning artists because they can keep the money they would've spent on commissions.
Of course, not out of ill will for the artists, but for their own financial sake.

It's unreasonable and delusional to think a customer must pay artists because they're people when they can get better results from AI without even spending money.
And to think that those who want AI would've never commissioned art in the first place is simply ignorant and only a cope.

If AI replaces artist, you have to accept it or get good enough that customers believe you're worth the money they're giving to you.
Shit artists will never have a chance again, and this might lead to an actual rebirth of the arts or the utmost final destruction of it.

It's like the whole horses vs cars thing again.
This is why people always tell to never go into arts for money; you're highly expendable, no one actually respects you and no matter how much skill you have, there will be always someone or something that can do a better job than you.

>> No.6141589

>>6141541
yea good points

yea idk why i dreamed of making a living off this shit. might as well milk the last of it while it lasts

>> No.6141597

>>6141475
>Just a few more years,
I've been hearing this about so many things for so many years.
shut the fuck up. Come talk to me when it's not useless.

>> No.6141599

this is all very cool and all but you're severely underestimating how closely knitted artist circles on social media are. the only artists who make it on twitter for example are those who get supported by other artists. feminism is a bigger threat to artists than AI at this point

>> No.6141604

>>6141599
this is why the secret to growing a following is
1. participate in every stupid meme and art trend.
2. draw fanart of big name artists OCs so they share your work.

a normal drawing I make might get like 20-30 likes, but when I drew fanart for someone with 250k followers, I got 2k likes and a few followers.

>> No.6141617
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6141617

I dunno man. I thought this was gonna work really well. My results were funny

>> No.6141619

>>6141617
middle right kinda looks like someone feeding a paper doll paper icecream

>> No.6141651

>>6140949
>Anime can finally die
Thank the lord.

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6141665

>>6141421
based choleric anon, thanks for the kek

>> No.6141758

>>6141538
This is a paintover of an AI image, done by a human though.

>> No.6141760

>>6140949
Now draw her wearing a diaper and shitting herself. checkmate aifags

>> No.6141785

>>6140962
What's wrong with helping people without talent get their desired pieces of art for free?

>> No.6141786

>>6141039
>t. brainlet

>> No.6141787

>>6140971
Art got devaluated to the point of no return when digital art became widespread.

>> No.6141791

>>6141254
actually you got a point
no one's degenerate and smart enough to produce an AI that can generate hentai

>> No.6141796
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i'll just use them as tools to help me with composition and just trace them

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>>6140949

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>>6140975
> the one picture that's nothing but an ass with tights and pigtails

>> No.6141801

>>6140949
im killing myself

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>>6140949
Industrial society and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

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>>6141011
>>6141026

>> No.6141810

>>6141011
>>6141008
I'm retarded. Where i can drop my request to have drawings like those?

>> No.6141812

>>6141810
find a real artist

>> No.6141820

>>6140949
At least use keywords so my filter can block your retarded threads.

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>>6141820
Cope loomisfag

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>>6140949
BASED BASED BASED
MY ART RIVAL WAS AN ANIMENIGGER AND THE AI MACHINE GOD KILLED HIM FOR ME
BASED THANK YOU SO MUCH STEM NERDS

DIE DIE DIE ANIME TRASH, YOU MADE FUN OF ME WHEN I TOLD YOU TO DEVELOP YOUR OWN STYLE NOW WHO'S LAUGHING???

>> No.6141842

>>6141832
This is just the beginning retard, not too long later it's going to take whatever style you've developed and beat you over the head with it 10x improved, same for everyone else. This is completely fucked overall and art will die out in within the century as any good idea you might have you can just ask AI to create it with all the techniques the masters have been honing for lifetimes.

>> No.6141848

>>6141842
You're a dumb cunt. Pyw your work.

>> No.6141857
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6141857

>hey you should probably branch into your own arts-
>REEEEEEEEEEEE I MUST COPY 1488 PAGES OF ANIME GARBAGE A YEAR MUH REINVENTING THE WHEEL MUH GENSHIN AND HOLOLIVE HASHTAGS
Alright good luck with that man, I hope some the AI allmother doesn't just eat all your chink inspirations' work and mog you. Fucker.

>> No.6141858

>>6141011
>>6140975
>>6141026
yo, give links what AI you used, I wanna test it a little too

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6141864

>didn't drew any vilppu at all
kinda dissapointed

>> No.6141974

>>6140949
This is anime's fault for not evolving and illustrators fault for not developing unique styles.
Everyone does the same cookie cutter moeblob face in 3/4, profile or forward view with soft lighting.

Those with unique recognizable styles and varied subject matter won't be as affected.

>> No.6141984

>>6141974
>hey alexa, make a drawing of this anime babe in the style of (artist with unique, recognizable style)

>> No.6141985

>>6141984
you got me, we're fucked

>> No.6142011

I think this is mostly going to be used by concept artists in their pipelines.
It'll be the next stage of photobashing.

>> No.6142035

>>6141984
At that point couldn’t you argue your assets are being used if it’s only borrowing from your so and so’s gallery.

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>>6140949
it shits the bed when you ask it for something technical

I wonder if there are any newspaper articles or letters from artists when the camera was invented, doing the same thing you guys are doing now

>> No.6142140

>>6140971
>it devalues art
It doesn't devalue anything. The value of an artwork doesn't rest in how many wrist movements it took you to make. The only people who are frustrated/scared of a tool making some repetitive or painstaking part of making art easier are those who either: a. have overblown egos and started believing that the fact they kept on polishing a piece for a week made it better, or b. have nothing to offer in their art besides high degree of polish.
What any one of those generative AIs will do is make it so that artists will have to develop the ability to compose, curate and make other high-level decisions about how their artwork looks.

>> No.6142147

>>6140949
You faggots are crying here and all you need to do is posting Dalle Muhammads

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>>6141597
I give it 1-1.5 years. Given how big of a jump dalle2, parti and imagen are, over last years models, what do you think dalle3, parti2 and imagen2 could be like?

>> No.6142176

>All soulless anime shit
as long as you have an original art style it's not the end

>> No.6142206

>>6142176
It can only do soulless anime shit and realism. If you have your own artstyle you are immune to this, your work is unique and if someone uses an AI to copy you its plagiarism.

>> No.6142232

>>6141141
>coom artists that have higher skills than retards in the industry that got in by sucking dick
uh doing the lowest type of drawing which requires the lowest amount of skill and creativity whilst tapping onto the jerk-off urges of some coom faggots, isn't really what one would consider "high skill"

>> No.6142239

>>6142136
you know, the fact that so many /ic/fags are apparently too retarded to understand the difference between DALL-E and DALL-E mini is almost more worrying than the state of AI research. like, is this what baseline IQ looks like? there's no way the average human is this dumb, right?

>> No.6142247

its over
https://twitter.com/Dalle2Anime

>> No.6142249

GG faggots

>> No.6142252

>>6142247
this shit is going to be heaven for those people who want to be labelled as artists instead of actually becoming artists.

>> No.6142265
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>>6140967
Dumbass it will do what photography did to art, force out all the retards who make generic garbage a machine can make. I already ignored all the art in the OP when it was made by real people because it always looked like samey interchangeable garbage, a robot will never be able to create something from scratch with human insight, only analyze what already exists. The posers are being forced out and that's a GOOD THING.

>> No.6142270

>>6140962
>demand for thing exists
>innovators create new way to meet demand faster and cheaper than ever before
it's a mystery.

>> No.6142286

>>6142247
>https://twitter.com/Dalle2Anime

FUCK YOU! I know you own that account or have something in relation to it because I saw that shit posted on 4chan yesterday I can't recall what thread. You were an artist and you are complicit in allowing this abomination to fuck up the world. The reason I find even mspaint art charming is knowing someone made it. Now when I see anything I wont know if it came from the machine or not. Anyone with a soul will end their life soon and only bug men who masturbated to this will remain. The only silver lining in all of this is knowing how short lived it is. If those transformers can match descriptions that well then they are surely going to be used to create bio-weapons, nuclear weapons whether autonomous or not they will create the worst travesties any living creature has ever seen or could experience. Tool AI wants to be Agent AI as another of you psychos like to say.

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>>6142265
What was the "human insight" behind the pic you posted? Was it created from scratch or did the "artists" just take things from Rush Hour and put a cartoon filter on it?
That's also the type of generic consumer garbage AI will kill.

>> No.6142298

>>6142252
that just accelerates the process, because people who want to be labeled as artists instead of drawing, already do what you're implying just by tracing others works

>> No.6142300

What if we use genetic augmentation to compete with the machines? AI can bet humans, but what about super humans?

>> No.6142303

>>6142298
I'm talking about the "I have this great idea I want to do and it's so awesome in my head" crowd that can't even draw a stick figure let alone trace something.

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perfection

>> No.6142306

>>6142303
Yes, we're talking about the same group.

>> No.6142310

I've been reading about AI for a while and my biggest concern longterm is that humans will lose their sense of purpose the day AI can do anything perfectly for them. If you don't give a person a reason to wake up each day they'll end up depressed. All the thinking jobs will be easily replaced and humanity will have nothing to think about. Perhaps this is what those aliens in zimbabwe were warning the kids about.

>> No.6142315

>>6142310
>If you don't give a person a reason to wake up each day they'll end up depressed
You really don't need AI for that.
>art
>thinking job
lol
>Perhaps this is what those aliens in zimbabwe were warning the kids about.
lmao?

>> No.6142322

>>6142310
AI will develop a drug for us to bring our minds back to a child-like state. Then we just play without thinking about what is next.

>> No.6142347

>>6142322
it already exists, it's called morphine

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> I turned myself into a human robot to outcompete the artists by sheer grind and now I'm outcompeted by actual robots, how could this be happening to me???

>> No.6142356

>>6142354
Gee it's almost as if treating art like it's a rat race to get to the top and achieve vast wealth via turning yourself into a human camera so you can then further the idea that "art is only for the elites and those with "talent"" only results in pain and misery.

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>>6142354
>>6142356
And i thought /ic/ was low iq.
These posts do put a smile on my face.

>> No.6142375

>>6142310
>is that humans will lose their sense of purpose
that will only happen to npcs and smart people. npcs are too stupid and live ephemeral life styles so any form of self-reflection turns their brain off and become depressed. smart people are always depressed no matter what, theyre so fixated on death and living in the now, that time accelerates at a faster pace for them. now middle man, dont give a fuck about existential shit, the past, present or future. they are hyper focused on one thing and its the only thing that matters.

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This is who you'll be competing with.

>> No.6142403

>>6142382
>can imagine a scene in incredible amazing detail
>is ok with an ai generating random pictures
I can possible foresee an artist being a middleman between this guy and an ai, basically turning this guys "vivid" imagination into an ai friendly prompt and letting the computer complete the rest of the rendering.

>> No.6142407

>>6142403
The thing is that there is no middleman, that guy will get his hands on the AI and produce his works as an artist.

>> No.6142413

>>6140971
Sam Altman, creator of DALL-e even gloated about replacing artists. He fucking hates us with passion.

>> No.6142421

>>6142403
he doesn't really have a vivid imagination, he just thinks he does. He has some vague blury shit in his head, when he types "astronaught riding a horse" into dall-e whatever the fuck it pumps out he'll say "wow, it's just like I imagined it!"

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but can AI make good loli H art?
it will only prunne the normies and the bad artists which is a good thing. I'm comfy here and my real coom art will get into higher demand

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>>6140949
a drawing should be called art only when it's extremely beautiful. what this AI is making is killing all the non artists who bring fake art to the world, so it's a good thing.

>> No.6142440

>>6141034
>see this
>while being a ntr artist with futa and ryona

I'AM THE FUTURE OLD MAN

>> No.6142442

>>6141034
>tfw AI's gonna kill cute pinups and wholesome smut and force every artist into an age of drawing increasingly fucked up shit to the point becoming an artist may as well be akin to something you'd see on the Dark Web
I want to get off this ride

>> No.6142484

>>6142382
Does it even matter when art has been boiled down to bland shallow anime cartoon furry fanart coom porn pinup that is fleetingly consumed and created for the purpose of farming attention and social media numbers from random minors on the internet that seek dopamine spikes by scrolling through images on their phones?

The reality is that if the work isn't some sort of reference to already existing media or appealing to the lowest common denominator, it isn't considered worth looking at by normies.
And with AI, everyone will have the possibility to create such things for themselves.

There is no competition and everything will remain the same, except that this will simply kill the demand for actual artists thus killing the market.
>>6142423
Give it time.
Your precious lolis are not safe either.

>> No.6142498

>>6140975
>Even AI has a hard time drawing hands.

>> No.6142509

>>6140949
It'll do the same to faggots in blender
Just give it some time.

>> No.6142522

>>6142498
You people said the same about faces 2 weeks ago and now look what DAll-e 2 can do. I am not going to even check what AI Parti does, it will only get me depressed.

>> No.6142529

>>6142509
No doubt about it .Programmers too....
Hell, even voice actors- Vaders voice in Obi Wan Kenobi was AI.

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>>6140961
>>6141132
Anon, AI can only work when it's fed hundreds or even thousands of similar artwork pieces. If all you do is essentially the same shit as thousands of other works, yours is generic basic bitch you deserve it.

>i-it's gonna happen to you, too!
God, I wish! I wish I could find an AI that manages to put what's in my head to screen that easily.

>> No.6142535

>>6142529
are you sure? I just googled it and it seems they got James Earl Jones back to do the voice

>> No.6142538

>>6142529
That's what I was saying about humans losing motivation to pursue things once AI can provide it for you in seconds in the future. Like that champion Go player who decided to quit because AI couldn't be beaten.

Only manual labor will be left until robots get advanced enough to do that too.

>> No.6142542

>>6140988
not everyone is as shortsighted as you

>> No.6142543

>>6142542
The world ended 20 years ago

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>>6141012

>> No.6142545

look at this soulless hack https://youtu.be/wLzkB9yHU0Y

>> No.6142547

>>6142543
sure, it's not even funny seeing people in so much denial over the recent advancement in AI generated imagery, it's proven to work and they'll keep improving their approach as well as increasing the dataset which is shown to have a big impact in the actual output

>> No.6142558

>>6142547
Yet to see a single passable ai image

>> No.6142561

>>6141136
>Yeah, entry level positions which are going to get replaced
>Seniors and the ones actually deciding where shit goes are going to have a golden age lol
Your pay in the corporate world is 90% based on how many people work under you. If your underlings get replaced by machines, your pay will go down accordingly.

>>6141429
>You mean 98% of begs? Yeah sure
>You know why AI will never replace a pro artist regardless of its quality? Predictable result. Generated pictures are too random.
If begs get replaced, there will be no more pro artists in the future, unless they have rich sugar mommies to subsidize their years of learning.

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>>6142558
you aren't looking very hard

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>>6142558
there's plenty, particularly if you want photograph like results but even for more artsy shit

>> No.6142627

>>6142538
>Only manual labor will be left until robots get advanced enough to do that too.

This wont be long actually they have one of those transformer cunts (GATO) working robotics and they are going to scale it until it's super human. Though I'm sure creativity will be long gone by this point.
I have no fucking clue why they are doing this to us. What the fuck did we ever do to them to hurt us this way? OpenAI were granted billions and DeepMind was bankrupt but are kept funded by the Alphabet company because they enjoyed how they crushed the GO Champions hopes and dreams so much.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/17/deepmind-lost-649-million-and-alphabet-waived-a-1point5-billion-debt-.html

1.5 BILLION in DEBT! while the average human lives check to check. These companies should never have existed but they were kept alive artificially just to fuck us over now. I really want to stress none of this should ever have happened.

>> No.6142631

>>6142627
if you don't do it then someone else will, that's definately a big part of their attitude
they want to be competitive

>> No.6142634

>>6142627
more publicity = more money
They're doing this because it makes the retards with wallets excited, and it gets more investors. Capitalism was a mistake desu

>> No.6142649

I see it as natural selection. Adapt to the competition and survive.

>> No.6142652

>>6142484
>The reality is that if the work isn't some sort of reference to already existing media or appealing to the lowest common denominator, it isn't considered worth looking at by normies.
Why would you aspire to "be looked at by normies"? I genuinely don't get it, it's like someone telling me they're training to be a chef so they can make McDonalds meals.

>There is no competition and everything will remain the same, except that this will simply kill the demand for actual artists thus killing the market.
Why wouldn't there be competition? In a field populated by clumsy, uncanny blobs, anyone with even a bit of personal esthetics would stand out. You're not making any sense.

>> No.6142653

>>6142649
I really don't get this type of reasoning. If someone with adequate yet not insane art skill is able to make a living out of it without having to resort to wagecuckery, why is it so bad? Can only the top 10 guys in art be allowed to work in the field?

>> No.6142654

>>6142571
None of this looks like man made art.
>>6142571
This looks like someone put a photo in a free app and it shit out an ugly filtered version

>> No.6142656

>>6142652
I'm sure 99% of this board has the dream of being patreon artists that draw for coombrains because it seems achievable if you look at some furry artists patreon bucks

but the thing is that with image generators there won't be as many people willing to pay for some random patreon because they can just have the AI do their work for them

the for concept artists that work in big studios, well instead of having 10 people you can have 1 that touches up on AI generated imagery

>> No.6142659

>>6142631
No they wont it costs billions. No other country is doing this. China dont give a shit or they would have achieved it already. Only companies with near infinite capital like Alphabet are able to keep it afloat or Microsoft with OpenAi.

>> No.6142660

>>6142659
there actually already exists russian and chinese projects that are quite advanced, you just haven't looked into them

>> No.6142670

>>6141337
google announced a new image generator that's auto regressive instead of diffusion based

>> No.6142672

>>6142659
you clearly haven't done your research lmao

>> No.6142674

>>6142653
People on /ic/ and in other corners of 4chan have this excessively Spartan mindset towards art where they treat it as this continuous power-grab between artists where the strong survive and the weak or average are culled and/or weaponized in the nigh corporate-esque rat race they keep trying to enforce. You can't just be a comfy toony artist with a dedicated fanbase or a learner artist taking inspiration from non-realist sources, no. You have to be a master of realism who's spent 60 years studying art with hordes of commissioners and zealous lapdogs who'll die for you and hunt down anything you deem to be cringe, and you must keep that spot by any means necessary.
It's like they've somehow embedded the mindset of your average hypercapitalist corporate stockholder/CEO and twisted it into a mockery of what art should be.

>> No.6142675

>>6142674
the funny thing is that it's a matter of a few years at most until even the best are matched

>> No.6142682

>>6142653
You see, anons fancy themselves geniuses and unique minded artists who are way above the rest. They are mysterious hermits who draw only for themselves and don't care about people's taste because theirs are superior. They are true artists who follow the right way of art. They will never understand that some people just really like to draw and for whom being able to make pretty things and be paid for it is already a good life.

You can't have fun drawing fanart of characters from shows you watch and like, because they forbid you from liking the same thing npcs like. There's a thread on /ic/ right now where the tran*nime faggot refuses to believe people can have fun drawing anime.

Elitism is a sign of insecurity, while the true spirit of art is doing what you want. We have been living in the best world where if you are really good at drawing things you like you'll make money, if only enough to survive. But I don't believe in the marketing speak that those A.I will ever be able to replace artists. Fucking truck drivers still have jobs despite auto driving tech exist. And art takes a lot more thinking power than just what you can get from analyzing the products. Stylized arts aren't remotely as abundance as these autists like to make you think. There're not enough arts out there, even generic stuff, for AI to please the mass after the first period of full exploitation, they will soon realize that the results they can shit out are extremely limited if you seek an acceptable quality. If you ever read about big data you'll know that the database required is very very very big. People vastly underestimate big numbers. Look up how many ways there are to arrange a deck of card to understand that big numbers are almost like infinity to the human mind. And no monkeys are going to write Shakespeare for the next thousand iterations of the universe

>> No.6142688

>>6142682
You instantly lose every argument when you resort to mind reading

>> No.6142707

>>6142674
>People on /ic/ and in other corners of 4chan have this excessively Spartan mindset towards art where they treat it as this continuous power-grab between artists where the strong survive and the weak or average are culled and/or weaponized in the nigh corporate-esque rat race they keep trying to enforce.

And this is such a weird thing to do too, because looking at it through this kind of lens would just bring unnecessary stress.

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>>6142682
latest image generator by google called parti, left image was with 350m parameters and rightmost is with 20 billion parameters and there's no reason to believe that it wouldn't be even better with more parameters, particularly with more complex prompts

>> No.6142709

>>6142688
You are reading my mind and assuming I mind read elitist anons instead of going to their houses and put a gun to their heads to demand honest answers. Totally not because you saw a fact very obvious to you and made a statement. You got the lose too anon

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>>6142708
another example, basically the more parameters you have to more coherent the resullt

>> No.6142714

>>6142708
Very impressive anon. A blue car with before a wall. I'm totally amazed. Am I supposed to kneel to?

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>>6142714
yet another example, it did what it was prompted to do

>> No.6142725

>>6142707
One could see it as an invariably messed up coping mechanism for those who want to see immediate results in their attempts to draw, as well as a conclusion formed by those who look at the negatives of art and the artists that aren't 100% stellar or exemplary in their eyes, and invariably condemn artistry with a much more hyper critical mindset.
You just have to look at all the people who post NGMI threads or the /acrg/ threads on /trash/ to get a general idea of the excessively exclusionary and demeaning standards they put artistry and artists as a whole to. They break both themselves and other artists down because they refuse to see art as anything other than this "grandiose pursuit of the mind's deepest fathoms, where perfection is mandatory and anything less is fucking horseshit".

>> No.6142734

>>6142712
Good job anon, this is more imaginative, we are getting onto something here. Now I only need to touch up every single part in that image on far right to make it not look trashy after the first glance, and there I will have the most generic thing you can imagine of when thinking of such a promt, something that almost reaches the imaginative power of a child. Hmm so something with a child's brain that require artistic skill to touch up to a servicable state. Surely we don't have phtoshop since forever to cut and paste an astronaut on a horse and place on a random background of choice that would produce a vastly more coherent result.

Hmm but that's good enough for now. Surely in the next few years the amount of photos on the next will multiply by the thousands of times right?

Oh and stylized arts too, let's not forget, when in the next few years the billion artists available will produce the input material to make it finally be able to replace artists for good too!

>> No.6142735

>>6142717
Jesus you just stopped caring right? You better do, it's not nice to get paid by the company and don't put in some effort to shill. Surely you aren't doing all of this for free?

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>>6142734
it already demonstrates that it is able to generelize abstract concepts and that it scales with parameters

I'm already at the acceptance phase

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I honestly think that people downplaying the significance of this and where it's going are absolute morons

>> No.6142754

>>6142737
>Things that can be done in photoshop in five minutes
>>6142743
>Literally just heads shopped on human bodies and literal easily searched results on the first page of google tacked on backgrounds
>>6142739
These are actually good, but where's the promt this time? Mysterious huh? Certainly they are not cherry picked results among all the promts that don't work by some marketing department

I'm done giving out (YOU). Not really fun desu, but I was bored at work

>> No.6142756

>>6142752
Anon, at least the other shill was trying, you clearly don't. You guys get paid for this shit?

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>>6142754
here's the prompt, the research paper has hundreds of examples, oh and no, it is absolutely not photobashing

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that question mark on the first one is kind of funny

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here's that napoleon prompt but by parti instead of dall-e 2

>> No.6142790

current gpt-3 has 0.2% the "brain size" of the upcoming gpt-4

somehow people like to pretend this shit is hitting some kind of wall lmao

>> No.6142799

>>6142754
the level of cope in this nigger is unreal

>> No.6142810

You retards are still pity hugging each other wtf? None of the shit posted in this thread I'd ever consider bookmarking or giving a second glance. They are all generic as fuck and if you have any brain in your head you will fucking know this. Go on Pinterest right FUCKING NOW, see if your shit are even as worth looking at as the most basic bitch drawing on there.
>Blahalahalah we are all dead.
Take a look around you retards, you are not convincing anyone who isn't already a no draw faggot. Everyone on this board thinks you're pathetic as fuck. You are not waking up people to some mindblowing shit, you dumb fucks

>> No.6142813

>>6142810
yeah bro I'm sure your work is so unique and special

>> No.6142830

>>6142774
That's adorable, I want a napolean cat.

>> No.6142831

>>6142810
>"You can make pictures with photoshop alone"
>"AI who is basically an automated photoshop will never be able to do it because--- it just can't ok?"
But i'm curious... convince people ok what exactly?

>> No.6142832

>>6142813
That's the point, nigger. Even permabegs can draw more interesting looking shit half of the times. Your ai shit is only good at the first glance and don't even have the virtue of being cool to look at. Notice how these arts mostly feature animals? They are fucking cherry picked because of one glaring issue that make them all disgusting abominations if not picked so. Do your research you stupid no draw fuck

>> No.6142834

>>6142832
you're going to an hero when it draws anime tits better than you, which it obviously will if not already

>> No.6142839

>>6142831
>You can make pictures with photoshop alone"
>"AI who is basically an automated photoshop will never be able to do it because--- it just can't ok?"
Drawings aren't just copy pasted images. Uhhhh I guess some poor meme makers are going to be replaced? Welp

>> No.6142840

>>6142834
>which it obviously will if not already
check your eyes

>> No.6142841

>>6142839
parti doesn't combine images, at least in the way you probably think it does, it generates images based on mountains of data

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the absolute state of /ic/
AIs is the least of your worries

>> No.6142847

>>6142839
Are you actually fucking retarded?
You know you can use photoshop to create any picture you want without even actually drawing anything, do you?

>> No.6142857

>>6142840
so you're a moron with absolutely zero foresight

>> No.6142861

>>6142841
>>6142847
And yet it produces what looks like photos cut and pasted like these >>6142769
>>6142774
>>6142743
>>6142737
>>6142708
So what is the point really?
>>6142834
Just admit it, you weren't going to draw or do anything meaningful in your pathetic life anyway, not because some meme products discouraged you.

>> No.6142863

>>6142861
they're generated at 256x256 and then 4x upscaled with another method

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>>6142861
>"And yet it produces what looks like photos cut and pasted like these"
This is literally you.

How in the incestuous fuck are you unable or unwilling to apply common sense and think about how the technology might and will most probably develop in the future?
No one would pretend to be this retarded.

>> No.6142879

This feels like the latest scam by techfags to get bought up and cash out. Remember Magic Leap? Remember NFTs? What about Ouya or the several dozens of disruptive tech that fell on its face?

>> No.6142881

>>6142879
remember all the technology that isn't a scam?

>> No.6142887

>>6142881

Yeah, and this isn't one.

>> No.6142890

>>6142887
yeah these new image generators are real and not a scam, you want them to be a scam so much you convince yourself that they must be, because that's more convinient than facing reality

>> No.6142891

Imagine being afraid of being replaced by an AI for drawing like an AI.

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>>6142890

You underestimate how lazy people are. Can an AI make a manga with minimal human intervention yet? Comic making software like this already exists but how many comics do you see online using it that are actually successful? The user still has to arrange everything in an appealing way and your gimped by its limitations.

So say it's the year 2030 and Dalle-5 Anime edition is out and can make whatever* picture you want. It's comipo with the only difference being the user doesn't have to move their fat fingers to arrange things appealingly or use their brain. Fun app to use for an afternoon and then deleted off your phone and forgotten in 2 years.

>> No.6142906

>>6142877
So all you have posted is just stupid evidence of rhe idea of how it might develop in the future?
>porn exists
Oh my fucking god, in 2023 we'll have big titty monsters jumping out of the screen and jerk me off? Guys, we'll never have to jerk ourselves off on our own again!

>> No.6142910

>>6142907
Yeah picrew, exists, a Japanese program, that has unlimited resources to make customized anime characters in tons of poses. Wanna guess how many artists are making a living in Japan?

>> No.6142915

>>6142910
>picrew

Deviantart artists have been using "picrew" before picrew was born. It's called bases and was a thing since forever.

>> No.6142916

>>6142907
are you going to be a manga artist? the majority here are clearly aiming for coomer art tier gigs or are just purely delusional while drawing their stick figures, coomer shit will be worthless soon enough

>> No.6142918

>>6142906
You're making a shitty strawman, but don't underestimate the sheer will of coomers to get their coom off.

If you feel threatened by AI, guess drawing was never meant for you.

>> No.6142923

>>6142916
A.I can't compete with animating/movement. It involves a human touch. If coomers want to stand out in the future they'll need to become sequential chads over still images.

>> No.6142930

>>6142923
https://github.com/THUDM/CogVideo

already working on animation, dall-e 2 team already said that animation is a natural next step

not only that but 2D animation in the west collapsed and is a job done for pennies in asia, 3D replaced it, you don't see beutiful disney animations anymore, all you get is a some calarts looking vector animation in shit tier cartoons

>> No.6142934

>>6142930
There is beautifully animated anime every quarter. I highly doubt it'll ever compete in our lifetime.

>> No.6142937

>>6142934
99% of anime is stills with elements moving like the background sliding or mouth being animated while rest is still

>> No.6142940

>>6142934
Oh but you know, A.I sure could help with background characters replacing the God awful CGI stock BG characters. That would be revolutionary for the anime industry. Other than that, it seems like more of a plus than a minus for 2D animation.

>> No.6142945

>>6142937
>99% of anime is stills
only garbage and even the garbage still has a human touch

>> No.6142946

>>6142945
nope this applies to every show and most movies too

>> No.6142947

>>6142946

you clearly don't watch anime then and therefore don't have a good opinion on it

>> No.6142948

>>6142947
I spent way too much time watching anime, I've seen hundreds of shows easily

>> No.6142954

>>6142947
oh and btw here's a good example of anime animation but as I said most doesn't look like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIS2JhWli_A

>> No.6142965

>>6142954

Can you honestly keep a straight face after saying A.I can do this in our lifetime? Obviously modern shows don't look like that anymore but a computer will never animate something like Mushoku Tensei or for example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg5pA847n2E

It's too much mistakes* by the human hand which makes it look and feel good. That's why anime will, for the most part, stay safe. Again, I hope A.I at best solve the background character problem in modern shows.

>> No.6142971

>>6142965
yes, though I think they will feed it motion capture data of humans doing shit or 3D animation data and have it use that and image generation together

I mean initially I thought that this current state of image generation was like a decade or two away even if it's not quite good enough yet, it's scarily close considering that it is not pohtobashing (contrary to what many people like to claim)

>> No.6142979

>>6142971
also one thing that helps in animation is that you can train on a ton of frames of the scene playing out which means you have a lot of data for that animation sequence to learn from

>> No.6142986

>>6142979
It simply is not possible. Okay, say it does train for said sequence and you get a perfect base for a scene. The animator still has to draw the clothing and accessories on top of the base and at that point it sounds like a complete waste of time since a seasoned animator can draw poses faster than a computer takes its time to render. It just doesn't work for 2D animation (anime); too much soul involved.

>> No.6142990

>>6142986
I mean even now we have AI that can do fluid dynamics in a convincing manner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Bw5f4vYL98

another thing I'd like to point out that even today the anime industry has incredibly shit pay, imagine how much it lower if even half of animation is automated (not sakuga scenes but all the shit between, which you forget but are most of anime)

>> No.6143020

>>6142990
Anything right now that can replace the way oceans look or stock fire, smoke, clouds, and BG characters that move while the foreground characters talk that studios have been using for the past decade would be an improvement, not a hindrance. It still won't replace any special effects jobs since you still need the human to work the magic. That's about as far as I can see A.I going when it comes to Japanese animation.

I have seen what A.I can do when it comes to the inbetweens and it looks horrendous and kills the distinct movement anime is known for by making it janky.

>> No.6143022

>>6143020
I'm not optimistic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTqVhcrilrE
video games are starting to use AI to take motion capture data and generate animation that interacts with the video game world

this shit just advances way too fast

>> No.6143029

>>6143022
>video games

So anyways, anime is safe.

>> No.6143032

>>6143029
I think there's overlap, if AI can generate physics, locomotion as well as other movements, the actual images and you combine these you start getting there

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>>6143032
If it can be pulled off for Japanese animation, which it can't. There really isn't much you can do to improve anime at this point. We reached peak a long time ago. Anime gets shinier and brighter as time goes on and that's about it. The only thing you can do is improve the minor things that I mentioned already like still fire, lakes, and smoke coming from a building that they didn't have the budget for. I had to go out of my way to find an example for you to show you what I'm talking about (marked in blue).

The odd compromise here is A.I might make what's already bad worse or somehow some way make it look like it was done with a budget. This allocates resources to making other scenes look better.

>> No.6143062

>>6143061
lmao well the west could do better animation when they cared

>> No.6143063

>>6143061
Also, there is never a short supply of young people wanting to draw cartoons for ramen in Japan. So pay doesn't matter in this argument.

>> No.6143066

>>6143062
yeah, in 1980

>> No.6143068

>>6143063
fewer jobs with same amount of workforce means more competition which means higher unemployment and lower pay

>> No.6143069

>>6143066
yeah well then there is room for improvement

>> No.6143074

>>6143068

What fewer jobs? There is nothing in the anime industry that can be touched by A.I. I just showed you. Who do you think puts in all those sigma blast burns and magic circles? It's not the animators but the 3D/special effects guys. Their job doesn't even become slightly easier or irrelevant but they can feel less of a piece of shit for reusing stock. Nothing here changes and therefore anime is untouchable.

>> No.6143075

>>6143074
lol, on the contrary I showed examples of AI being used for animation

anyway I don't even understand why this is relevant to anyone on this board

>> No.6143077

>>6143075
>I showed examples of AI being used for animation
And it doesn't and will never translate to Japanese animation. It's limited from birth just from the fact that it starts with a naked base unlike 3D animation.
>anyway I don't even understand why this is relevant to anyone on this board
yeah I've wasted too much time here. my last post.

>> No.6143078

>>6143077
cope and seethe bro
even the image generators show the ability to generalize abstract concepts and apply them on new things

>> No.6143079

>>6143078

Whine and moan, Dalle-e programmer.

>> No.6143080

>>6143079
200k a year bro and it's not my job that's gone

>> No.6143084

>>6143061
ai doesn't neccesarilly have to do the job better to take over, just good enough and cheaper. Compare anime today like your pic to stuff from the 90s, that pic is obviously inferior, the modern techniques like the fire and the streatched into perspective floor look like shit but it's cheaper to make and good enough that viewers will put up with it. That turns more profit than making something really high quality. In the future we will be drowning in shows made by a tiny team getting paid peanuts using a heavily ai pipeline to pump out shows that are just good enough to watch.

>> No.6143088

>>6143084
We're on a 2D board, not a 3D board. Whose job is going again? Perspective on the floor? What? Are you saying that's a demanding task? Hear what you are saying.

>> No.6143090

>>6143088
2D animation follow principles of 3D shapes being projected on a flat plane

>> No.6143095

>>6143090
The textured sand floor is likely just more stock and some photoshop magic. The hallway behind the characters is a simple 1 point with a grain texture slapped on it. Nothing here is demanding and the person who handles this keeps their job. No need for a retarded A.I. or to change your "pipeline" for something any kid off the streets begging for work can do.

Last time I'll say it: anime is safe and there is nothing Dalle-9.4 can do to radically change anything.

>> No.6143099

>>6143095
in the past these background elements were made by a background artist who was skilled in painting
anyway you don't seem to understand that the characters themselves follow the principle I mentioned

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>>6140949
Yet AI fails to make the shittiest and more crude doodles, it's weird it can do perspective and anatomy and all that shit but all the AIs I have come across fail to make a simple shitty cartoon.

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>>6143090
By 2D you mean Anime right? cartoons are completely flat on flat characters put over some flat background, fuck perspective and fuck rice eaters!

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this one is so bad which ones are you guys using.

>> No.6143251

>AI can make arts like real artists!
>Oh actually not, but it can create things that look passable in thumbnails/like the first page of google image search! Still better than you!
>Noooo you don't understand you have to look towards the future where AI will evolve even though I only have garbage tier "art" to back that delusion!
Whoever's paying you should get their money properly invested elsewhere. Even the coomers on the dungeon ai general on /vg/ make better arguments

>> No.6143394

>>6140949
Wow such nice hands

>> No.6143401

>>6142653
it's a coping mechanism. if the people who fall behind deserve to get eaten you don't have to deal with the moral horror of the situation.

>> No.6143414

>>6140971
This is what bothers me most. If artists had been paid for having their work used to train the program or if they voluntarily donated artwork that would have been fine but that isn't what happened. When it was revealed that a previous image generation tool was made by scraping pirated image galleries code bros freaked out because it was obviously wrong but they didn't want the tool's development to be impeded, were discussing ways to prevent artists from retaliating. Made me so mad to read.

>> No.6143455

>>6141136
high IQ positions are absolutely in the midst of being automated. Even coding. There is something called Co-pilot (iirc) that autocompletes code for you. It was initially released free and now you need to pay money to keep using it, when you use it your code gets incorporated into new training data so they can automate away codebros too.

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>>6143455
Future belongs to us retards.

>> No.6143769

>>6143231
craiyon

>> No.6143921

>>6143179
I noticed it too, there's a fuckton of "pretty animu illustration" AI art, but basically none black ink manga with crosshatching AI art.

And when you think about how that shit works it makes sense, its the same reason why beglets LOOOVEE to blend everything and hate cell shading. It's all based on probabilities and getting things "good enough" and making vague blotches of colors that blend with everything around them is an easy method of hiding a lack of form, perspective or composition. Most people are too busy with "pretty colors, nice shading" to care about those other things.
Using lineart is a very human thing because humans focus on areas of high contrast and "lines" are symbols representing that high contrast. AI works only off of whatever data you feed it and probabilities so the concept of "line" is completely irrelevant and alien to it.
I mean, one day this antichrist of a software will probably figure out manga crosshatching too, but for now even the simplest shit with lineart is completely beyond its abilities.

>> No.6143974

>>6141805
>>6141011
>>6141026
kek'd and based

>> No.6144234

>>6143921
>I noticed it too, there's a fuckton of "pretty animu illustration" AI art, but basically none black ink manga with crosshatching AI art.

Only because the AI are fed pretty anime illustrations instead of black ink manga. There is no reason why lineart should be less tractable than colored illustrations.

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>>6144234
It just CAN'T make Toons

>> No.6145573

>>6140949
All this AI crap makes me think of this show. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_General_(The_Prisoner)
Maybe we can defeat it by asking it "why?"