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/asg/ - Anime Study General Anonymous Tue Feb 11 21:11:36 2020 No.4363332 [Reply] [Original]

Why You Should Copy Anime:
https://i.imgur.com/zNDsyF0
https://youtu.be/t_IODIIYAe0

Make it Stick: The Science of Successful Learning:
http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=F0581EBF3D1D926E1A67127383C97350

**Strive for quantity AND quality.**

Anime Studying:
>Copy anime references exactly and draw them from memory. Use illustrations, screenshots, anime figures, 3D models, etc.
>Don’t copy recklessly. Use construction, color theory, and other fundamental concepts to rehearse a drawing process that you can later easily manipulate for original artwork.
>Post all of your anime studies. Post even when you’re told not to. Create an art community that actually draws and improves together instead of just talking about it.
>Number your attempts and link to your previous posts.
>Critiquers should lead by example by posting their studies.

General Anime Style Discussion:
>Questions about achieving certain styles/techniques/compositions etc.
>Drawing methods, study habits, resources, tutorials, tools, software, etc
>Be specific and try to post a sample of your study attempts before asking for help.

**Keep most of your personal works for /alt/ or the other critique threads. Here we should be drawing copies from good anime styled references to mindfully up our mileage, internalize appealing aesthetics, and learn from each other’s processes and knowledge.**

Effective Art Study Guide:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cK9q7oeFRE58MVaSgUql662iGqCXC8Ah

General Art Overview:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bz_mE9a29gsEd09TemJMNTJMWGs

Japanese Book Collection:
https://mega.nz/#F!UcNG2AiT!jeyWwP1gtQXXz6R29o5bgw!sddDyarD

Recommended Resources:
https://pastebin.com/Yz2scAEc

Discord:
https://discord.gg/3bwdfRk

Previous Thread:
>>4348702

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 11 21:17:23 2020 No.4363343 :(

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 11 21:21:34 2020 No.4363348 >>4363332 >tfw all these colors, mood, emotions and soul >can't capture any of it yet

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 11 21:29:42 2020 No.4363369 File: 845 KB, 1529x2726, 34223r4.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] done :v

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 11 21:46:30 2020 No.4363400 File: 168 KB, 1024x768, 1578332964215.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Where to begin studying such beautiful but complex piece like this one?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 11 21:49:21 2020 No.4363406 File: 781 KB, 640x640, 1580938918703.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4363400 by drawing boxes

Anonymous Tue Feb 11 21:53:36 2020 No.4363411

I decided to use Pixiv and Twitter to post my work, I started both with 0 followers.
My first drawing got 40 likes and even some followers in two days on Pixiv, but on my Twitter I literally had zero likes despite using similar tags.
Am I doing something wrong or is it just easier to be noticed on Pixiv?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 11 21:56:40 2020 No.4363418 >>4363411 Well obviously it's easier to get noticed on pixiv.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 11 21:57:08 2020 No.4363420 >>4363400 Focus on a single aspect you wanna learn.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 11 21:59:33 2020 No.4363425 >>4363400 dont learn any fundamentals, just try copying every line and see if you learn anything.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 11 22:00:13 2020 No.4363427 >>4363411 Pixiv has some power tags. You put them on and you're gonna get a massive amount of people. Usually very popular series or weird fetishes

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 11 22:03:08 2020 No.4363431 File: 65 KB, 499x498, 1581472385797.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4363425

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 11 22:07:03 2020 No.4363438 >>4363411 Well Pixiv is all about artworks while on Twitter it's technically a rather small part of it. But once you get noticed on Twitter you usually get a lot more followers overall compared to Pixiv.

Anonymous Tue Feb 11 22:20:32 2020 No.4363452
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>>4363418
>>4363427
>>4363438
I see, I had posted an unfinished version of this drawing on the previous thread, but since an anon asked for the blog I decided to create one.
So I’ll stay only on Pixiv for now as Twitter seems to be more appropriate for those on a higher level.
Thanks anons

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 11 22:37:25 2020 No.4363471 File: 326 KB, 2062x1160, 20200212_103234 copy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] digital dude here, holy shit drawing traditionally feels so nice

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 11 22:39:59 2020 No.4363474 >>4363471 wish there was a ctrl z button irl tho

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 11 22:41:04 2020 No.4363476 >>4363471 too bad it looks like hot garbage

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 11 22:44:00 2020 No.4363479 >>4363476 posting garbage is the point of this thread tho

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 11 22:47:01 2020 No.4363484 >>4363476 Did you know this is the anime version of /beg/?

Anonymous Tue Feb 11 23:03:39 2020 No.4363504
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Watercolor background for this, or digital? I'm thinking watercolor because I really want to be "authentic" with that cel style, but then again I already did everything digitally so it might not be worth it at this point.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 11 23:07:48 2020 No.4363511 >>4363471 why do pointless little sketches like that when you don't even understand the basics of gesture or form

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 11 23:14:26 2020 No.4363521 >>4363474 its called erasing

Anonymous Tue Feb 11 23:17:29 2020 No.4363525
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>>4363511
cause i have nothing to do in class nerd, i just trace from 3d models when i do serious stuff
anyway. though, aren't sketching practicing? what are you supposed to do if you don't sketch?

Anonymous Tue Feb 11 23:22:40 2020 No.4363537

>>4363411
Twitter is an absolute nightmare to search for anything, I still stumble across Twitter-only artists that I wish I had known about earlier but couldn't find them because they weren't in the same network as the artists I already follow.

The way I see it you'd need to get your art noticed on Pixiv, build up a modest following, link your twitter there and hope people start retweeting you. The key would be to get the attention of other artists who have a bunch of followers and then it's going to just snowball from there.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 11 23:51:53 2020 No.4363581 >>4363525 what the hell are you even saying

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 11 23:52:43 2020 No.4363582 File: 340 KB, 1280x720, 1507073415332.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4363474 >>4363521

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 01:48:41 2020 No.4363675 File: 60 KB, 935x412, 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ㅗ

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 02:04:41 2020 No.4363691 >>4363675 this is the monster that comes to rape you if you stop drawing for longer than a day

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 02:12:57 2020 No.4363700 >>4363691 burns all art supplies

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 02:16:35 2020 No.4363706 >>4363411 >My first drawing got 40 likes That's a lot, wow!! What tags did you use? Also can I go on pixiv without speaking japanese?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 02:27:13 2020 No.4363726 >>4363332 I think we should put the artist's link next OP for anons who want to deep dive their styles.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 02:31:36 2020 No.4363733 File: 530 KB, 811x894, 1574852164972.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] These unhelpful crabs

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 02:34:25 2020 No.4363736 >>4363691 yes it is

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 02:41:24 2020 No.4363746 >>4363706 Power tags like FGO, AzurLane or any fotms can net you a couple likes but ofc your arts shouldn't be /beg/ tier.

Anonymous Wed Feb 12 02:52:44 2020 No.4363754
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>>4363706
I'm not sure if you are serious, but in any case thanks, I used these tags.
I don't know anything in Japanese so I just put the character's name in the search bar and used crtl-c/ctrl-v to copy the tag in moon rune.
This one is the drawing >>4363452

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 02:54:46 2020 No.4363755 >>4363754 >FUCK IT JUST DRAW FGO

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 02:56:45 2020 No.4363758 >>4363733 Nice Zak

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 02:57:47 2020 No.4363760 >>4363733 If you drew that. That's pretty cool

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 02:57:48 2020 No.4363761 >>4363733 She stiff AF tho

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 02:58:31 2020 No.4363762 >>4363755 I literally just started drawing because of this character So yeah, it's a win-win situation

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 02:58:57 2020 No.4363764 >>4363755 >just draw AzurLane bro So this is how we make it huh

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 03:11:22 2020 No.4363773 >>4363452 Nice overall. That’s my cheerleader comment Truth is your character isn’t a real being. The face looks fake, the eyes have nothing behind them. It makes me wonder if you as an artist realize anime is real.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 03:12:49 2020 No.4363777 >>4363773 ok boomer

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 03:17:01 2020 No.4363785 >>4363755 >>4363764 The fujos(People who like boys love) unironically gets you views and money. They are like the counterpart of furries.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 03:19:58 2020 No.4363787 >>4363773 yeah I know, anime faces are my biggest difficulty atm but first I want to finish the Vilppu videos about figures also, I use greyscale to color so I try to emulate this artist's style https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVQBeIBZ_PA

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 04:54:29 2020 No.4363884 >>4363773 How do I anime heads? The guy that copies Spacejin does a good job at anime heads but I don't understand the construction he uses.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 04:57:48 2020 No.4363887 >>4363760 >>4363761 >>4363758 >If you drew that. That's pretty cool he didn't, the artist is BarbarianK

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 05:53:42 2020 No.4363932 >>4363504 You could try both and see which one you liked, I'm sure you'd get bonus points for using a watercoloured background though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 06:47:12 2020 No.4363972 File: 214 KB, 746x1435, 1564787995779.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I feel like my lines are too thicc

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 07:53:04 2020 No.4364044 >>4363471 Pretty cool aside from top left

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 10:08:01 2020 No.4364275 >>4363972 More like a proportions issue.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 10:45:15 2020 No.4364357 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyzFwaUqIUE new video fresh from our senpais, now you don't have an excuse not to paint those tummys!

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 10:47:30 2020 No.4364360 >>4363972 This picture is extremely unappealing, I'd say draw more from reference before drawing something like this and draw more in general before learning to clean lineart... if the art behind the lineart is bad, cleaning it won't help it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 11:15:17 2020 No.4364400 >>4363972 Jesus fucking christ what's wrong with her hands?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 11:39:10 2020 No.4364445 File: 801 KB, 776x999, 1560336328092.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4364275 >>4364360 >>4364400 I'm just drawing from imagination but I'll do my best!

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 11:57:46 2020 No.4364471 >>4364445 It would be better to copy right now. You need to train your eyes. Anyways we were all there. Never give up.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 12:44:08 2020 No.4364548 >>4363525 feels good man

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 16:44:08 2020 No.4364978 File: 115 KB, 956x1200, D1E8o4iXQAApS_6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] can I get a source on this artist?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 16:46:01 2020 No.4364980 >>4363764 AzurLane is so last year. It’s Arknights now faggot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 17:04:29 2020 No.4365011 File: 305 KB, 1000x1913, EJeICYAUcAAolis.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4364978 @Navigavi on twitter

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 17:27:22 2020 No.4365044 File: 308 KB, 575x605, 1499810044354.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4365011 thanks

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 18:37:01 2020 No.4365125 >>4363675 absolutely cursed

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 19:59:45 2020 No.4365265 File: 228 KB, 960x1200, 618DEE8A-2CC9-4305-804A-E18FF277ACF0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4363332 You do know how to draw in people’s awe with your work, right anon? Post your peak.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 20:13:00 2020 No.4365289 File: 448 KB, 1584x1344, goku1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 20:49:53 2020 No.4365314 >>4365265 English motherfucker, do you speak it

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 20:52:56 2020 No.4365316 File: 12 KB, 400x400, notmyworkEQL4QBCU0AI_ajE.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4365265

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 20:55:53 2020 No.4365319 >>4365265 >he doesn't already draw at his peak

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 21:42:50 2020 No.4365422 File: 42 KB, 641x530, 1505611414089.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4365289 holy mother of based

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 21:51:20 2020 No.4365443 >>4365265 why do i see this stupid fucking face everywhere

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 22:14:49 2020 No.4365481 File: 148 KB, 680x875, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4365443 It's because she's the face of the lastest gacha

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 22:44:02 2020 No.4365546 File: 87 KB, 526x806, White72.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4365265 Arknights has some garbage art, but I'm still playing it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 22:49:16 2020 No.4365553 File: 528 KB, 512x724, RiderofResistanceStage3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how does it make you feel that this piece made it into a professional game >l-line your art properly

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 22:58:19 2020 No.4365563 >>4365546 when are you actually gonna learn to draw something

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 23:02:45 2020 No.4365569 File: 715 KB, 512x724, CC_A4.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4365553 if you want to meme at least post the last ascension art faggot

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 23:04:47 2020 No.4365572 >>4365553 i don't care

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 23:09:22 2020 No.4365578 File: 962 KB, 1440x900, 1579323330747.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do people make their pictures so clean? It's legit mind boggling.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 23:10:54 2020 No.4365581 >>4365553 FGO has tons of garbage art, despite raking in so much money.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 23:11:20 2020 No.4365583 >>4365578 Knowing all the handy tricks and features of your program

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 23:13:03 2020 No.4365589 File: 83 KB, 1280x720, maxresdefault.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4365581 their art might be garbage but they get paid for them unlike you

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 23:18:18 2020 No.4365601 >>4365589 and yet that doesn't make their art lest shit and even people bullied one faggot off from twitter lmao

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 23:26:45 2020 No.4365612 >>4365563 When I stop improving.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 23:29:50 2020 No.4365618 >>4365612 better get started then

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 23:36:52 2020 No.4365631 >>4365618 Copyfags can't see real progress.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 23:51:45 2020 No.4365657 >>4365631 Show me this "real progress" you've achieved

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 00:01:20 2020 No.4365671 >>4365657 I'll post it in the coming days, if I my arms still work. I keep making breakthroughs, but haven't bothered to make something to post.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 00:12:26 2020 No.4365677 >>4365578 Big canvases

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 00:32:03 2020 No.4365694
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Guys i can confirm studyfags make ZERO progress and will be permanently beg.
Left: study last month from ref.
Top right: same character today from imagination
Bottom right: an oc from img. Donut steel

I literally went backwards. Shouldve just grind loomis. Gonna quit art

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 00:33:47 2020 No.4365698 >>4365694 Literally no difference, we’re you even trying?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 00:35:20 2020 No.4365700 >>4365698 no. gonna kill myself

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 00:36:56 2020 No.4365701 >>4365698 >>4365694 dont listen to this guy, there's definitely progress. For a month though, not very impressive. Don't study before having fundamentals TO study, that's literally the point.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 01:03:42 2020 No.4365729 File: 100 KB, 1844x624, 1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] disgusting

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 01:10:50 2020 No.4365737 >>4365694 There definitely is some progress there, maybe you've been staring at it too much to see it anymore.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 01:23:14 2020 No.4365751 >>4365694 Copying will make you progress faster than studying. Have you not learned that from high school?

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 01:25:49 2020 No.4365754

>>4365751
I wasn't a copying faggot in high school, so no. If there was anything I detested, it was those cheating faggots because I was always doing the work. Although I'm worse off than all of those people, so my account only brings weigh to your statement.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 01:40:25 2020 No.4365775 copyfags > studyfags > xeroxfags >>> fundesfags > drawfags > artists > grindfags > learnfaggots > practicefags

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 01:41:31 2020 No.4365778 >>4365775 tracefags > everything anon posted

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 01:43:45 2020 No.4365780 >>4365775 >>4365754 >>4365751 >>4365778 shut the fuck up and draw

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 01:44:52 2020 No.4365782

>>4365694
>>4365481
>>4365289
>>4363733
>>4363471
absoulute garbage. zero chance of making it, quit now.

>>4365729
>>4363972
some talent, you might make it if you work hard

>>4365546
the best post in the thread, show clear mastery of ligameme and probably have the spark too. going to make it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 01:56:09 2020 No.4365797 >>4365782 nice bait

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 02:42:37 2020 No.4365826 >>4365782 Nice critique. Now post your work.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 02:54:03 2020 No.4365830 >>4365826 he already did >>4363972

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 03:35:43 2020 No.4365860 [DELETED]

>>4365782
Huh? Is this...barking I hear? No no no it is. What the FUCK did you just say to me you shrieking baboon? You mental midget born scorn and self doubt. Return to your kennel at once, dog. Do not make your master repeat himself lest he will whip the disobedient slave. I shan't tolerate your tomfoolery a bit, monkey. Kneel and beg for forgiveness from the confines of your kennel.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 04:39:41 2020 No.4365904 File: 344 KB, 220x213, 1559957222644.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >He uses imagination to draw Bro are you still living in the Babylonian age

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 05:48:45 2020 No.4365934 >>4365860 hot

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 07:34:18 2020 No.4366042 >>4365671 I remember when I thought you were better than me, but you're still drawing the same as back then.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 07:36:26 2020 No.4366045 File: 109 KB, 582x1200, 1555595234035.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4363972 Same anon! been practicing drawing from reference(instagram thots). How did i do now?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 08:03:08 2020 No.4366065 >>4366045 Way better. Keep it up.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 08:04:03 2020 No.4366066
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There are many different styles of anime, and I'm not just talking about the most popular styles that change throughout the decades.
When looking at different manga or anime, when you exclusively look at the best of the best, there tends to be a huge difference between jap artists, yet all of their work can easily be identified at a glace as anime.
So, what are the main identifiable features of anime?

Big eyes are typically a giveaway and even artists that draw more realistic depictions of anime inflate the eye size in their own unique way; but big eyes don't always look anime-esque, so what is it about the way the people of the far easy do it that give it its own style.

Small noses from a front facing view are another indication of this style, but again, even though widely used there have been artists in the past and currently that gave their characters more defined noses while still avoiding looking western.

Is it the proportions, or the linework, or whatever the fuck else? What are the core principles of anime?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 08:23:59 2020 No.4366077 >>4366066 the lack of a side of a nose, though there are exceptions

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 08:35:38 2020 No.4366091 >>4363425 >learn fundamentals >try copying every line and see if you learn anything. unironically do both of these

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 08:38:05 2020 No.4366095

>>4363411
Tags don't really matter on twitter unless it's a highly domain-specific tag (like an anime character's birthday). The only way you're going to grow is by interacting with people (so they know you exist) and building very slowly from there.

Pixiv growth is pretty steady and will be much faster than Twitter until you get a lot of followers. Twitter growth tends to be exponential while Pixiv growth is closer to (but not exactly) linear.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 09:13:59 2020 No.4366133 File: 13 KB, 358x222, Screen Shot 2020-02-13 at 9.13.30 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] is this good

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 09:25:46 2020 No.4366140 >>4366133 Get pixiv premium

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 11:01:52 2020 No.4366237 >>4363474 anyone else whose muscle memory makes them push a nonexistent cnt Z before realising you're drawing traditionally?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 11:18:06 2020 No.4366250 >>4366140 >tfw i pay 5 bucks a month so i can fix a slight error on an image without having to resubmit It's literally the only reason I have pixiv premium

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 12:38:49 2020 No.4366348
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>>4366042
I haven't been drawing as much since then.

But unlike copyfags, where it's easy to tell when you're improving at tracing. Molding a skill properly however, it becomes harder to spot, because you're trying so many different things.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 12:43:52 2020 No.4366357 >>4366348 you clearly have not improve at anything, everything is still 10% finished and shitty

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 12:48:46 2020 No.4366363 File: 1.17 MB, 4677x3307, Scans0116.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4366357 Because I'm practicing those parts, how are copyfags so dumb.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 13:13:03 2020 No.4366403 >>4366357 So how long has this guy been 'practicing'? I think I saw scribbles of the same quality when I first came here a couple months ago.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 15:50:18 2020 No.4366607 >>4366363 What part? How to draw melting faces?

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 16:10:34 2020 No.4366640
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I've ,,finished".
It's my first time ever coloring anything and I have to say I'm proud of myself. I spend way too much on barely noticeable details,but I enjoyed every single second of it and I'm motivated to draw more. Now I kinda understand why so many people like polishing turds so much. Thanks for your advice from last thread, I'll try to improve my lineart next time.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 16:20:09 2020 No.4366655
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>>4366607
Well you just confirmed you're a dirty copyfag.

Only an incel would able to look at an anime directors art, and not see anything useful about it.

Literally all i need to do is realize how he places his shapes in space, and I can draw it from any angle.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 18:30:25 2020 No.4366912 File: 3.24 MB, 2000x3306, riamu in karate gi.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Total novice here, no idea what I'm doing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 18:53:18 2020 No.4366980 File: 90 KB, 796x613, White75.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4366640 Feel the form before you try coloring. Don't take advice from a copyfag/studyfag like this guy. >>4365694

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 21:10:34 2020 No.4367194 >draw anime cause I find the style appealing >don't even watch anime What is wrong with me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 21:12:13 2020 No.4367197 >>4367194 Nothing is wrong with us. What's wrong with liking a style without watching it? As long as you don't trash on it like some folks, not mentioning any names.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 21:37:15 2020 No.4367253 File: 52 KB, 442x620, White76.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4367194 Anime is trash, made for trash. Manga artstyle is objectively the most appealing form to humans.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 21:41:06 2020 No.4367263 >>4367253 It's literally the same shit, except you have to work collaboratively in a company within tight deadlines for anime. And why the fuck don't you ever finish anything?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 21:47:45 2020 No.4367277 >>4367263 Anime shorts are pretty good, but as soon as you need to put a story, the asian mind goes to shit. And I enjoy creating more than making coomer art for other people.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 21:52:24 2020 No.4367291 >>4367277 you can't comprehend them white trash

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 21:54:57 2020 No.4367296 >>4366655 >>4366980 >>4367253 >>4366363 >>4366348 The most ngmi poster on this board.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 22:00:15 2020 No.4367311 >>4367291 Sex and swords, how did I do?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 22:40:38 2020 No.4367421 File: 324 KB, 847x1000, tituria-oc.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I started this sketch, any thoughts before I move on?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 22:46:06 2020 No.4367431 >>4367421 Fix the face, draw those arms and hands you fucking coward

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 22:50:28 2020 No.4367440 >>4367431 I already drew a full figure on that Jeanne at the beginning of the thread I want to do something like a portrait now

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 22:53:28 2020 No.4367443 File: 196 KB, 1200x1200, 02E7C162-81FE-4188-8A68-2B5F9048E6F8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4363332 Post the most generic animu you have ever seen so the anons below can comment on it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 23:07:43 2020 No.4367465 >>4367253 >>4366980 >>4366655 >>4366348 >>4366363 please please PLEASE kill yourself

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 23:09:04 2020 No.4367468 >>4367443 This is so cute I love it UwU

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 23:21:55 2020 No.4367485 File: 37 KB, 501x432, White77.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4367296 >>4367465 I'm just a chill gamer. >>4367421 Go on to the next drawing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 23:44:40 2020 No.4367532 File: 312 KB, 847x1000, tituria-oc.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I tried to fix the face >>4367485 actually I'm enjoying doing this one, I'll try to color it

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 23:50:47 2020 No.4367554 >>4365578 big canvas and if you feel they're still a little dirty you can blur them, but don't abuse it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 00:00:58 2020 No.4367581 >>4365578 They dedicated so much of their life to drawing. >But I wanna be good nowwwwwww. Cope.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 00:12:10 2020 No.4367604 >>4367532 Draw her cross armed so it at least frames/emphasizes the boobies.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 00:16:53 2020 No.4367614 >>4367581 i dedicate so much and i still suck shit whats the god damn secret

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 00:17:22 2020 No.4367616 >>4367604 this is actually a good suggestion, I'll try to do this after waking up

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 00:25:18 2020 No.4367635 >>4366980 based. your lines are a bit too dark though, lighten them up

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 00:26:39 2020 No.4367639 >>4367532 her expression is kind of boring

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 00:51:28 2020 No.4367672 >>4367635 Good idea, I have dark lines because it's easier on the hands, but i'll keep that in mind.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 00:57:43 2020 No.4367685 File: 172 KB, 756x1095, 1551387229410.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4363972 >>4366045 Same anon here, Here's my gift for helping me, anons! I'll try my best to improve everyday!

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 01:08:02 2020 No.4367696 >>4367685 thanks anon, keep that attitude and you're gmi

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 01:09:04 2020 No.4367698 >>4367685 >drawing this much doomed to improve

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 02:29:14 2020 No.4367758 File: 769 KB, 1936x1919, 2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] developing drawing mechanism

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 03:15:12 2020 No.4367787 File: 61 KB, 800x448, rythm heaven.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone knows some good videos on how to light and shadows specifically for anime (not too realistic)?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 06:25:22 2020 No.4367893 File: 1.01 MB, 892x1184, __christopher_columbus_fate_grand_order_and_etc_drawn_by_norasame_dagako__dd5fa34b5f9b300dd423e329cddda59c.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4365553 I like the design he made for shota Columbus

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 07:12:50 2020 No.4367934 So for anyone else doing 1000 copy paper sheets, how do you organize them? Sometimes I need to refer something I did before and going through a stack of paper searching is becoming cumbersome as it keeps growing

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 07:21:34 2020 No.4367941 >>4367787 Holy fuck, that's a good meme. Brings me back. Thank you anon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 07:22:07 2020 No.4367943 >>4367934 First by subject, keeping them in different envelopes/folders/paperclips. Within those I stack them by date.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 07:25:18 2020 No.4367950 >>4367787 Honestly it would be better for you to learn the realistic approach to lighting and then apply the general idea to the anime style taking few subtle liberties.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 07:31:28 2020 No.4367963 File: 150 KB, 778x768, 764.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4365782 not funny, didn't laugh. delete your 4chan account and go back to 9gag

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 11:04:40 2020 No.4368208

>>4367421
the angles are all over the place, her crown thing is slightly in a different angle of her face, her shoulders angle are way too off from her head angle, her boobs are slightly off from her head angle they are kinda facing more to left and the zises or form are not even they look off the left boob looks bigger and her torso should'n be visible from that angle if thats is her torso.Also her eyes are in a different angle of the nose and mouth, the moth is way to large for that head angle like i said the angles are a mess, i think her face should be a litte larger and her left eye should more sunked in her eye socket.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 11:05:38 2020 No.4368209 File: 1.18 MB, 3393x1660, wergjknwertgetgw.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4368208 forgot opic

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 11:41:10 2020 No.4368272 >>4367934 In chronological order. 1000 is a lot but still easy to navigate.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 14:52:03 2020 No.4368806 >picture gets liked by an artist with almost 20k followers >doesn't retweet it FUck those stupid gook rats. I hope an earthquake knocks over his fucking cuck shed and his raisin dick shrivels off while he dies.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 15:03:41 2020 No.4368831 >>4368806 You entitled little shit

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 15:04:52 2020 No.4368833 File: 1.62 MB, 2560x1920, EQMELObU8AEm14R.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4368806 >artist has 30k followers >1k max likes average 600 rip

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 15:44:53 2020 No.4368919 >>4368833 30k came as a chain reaction to someone popular retweeting your drawing of some popular character and unless you keep drawing that specific character (see: Nickleflick) you will get low amounts of likes just like before those 30k

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 16:07:44 2020 No.4368969 File: 44 KB, 435x471, White78.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Think I'm getting heads, and how one line being a little bit darker than another, ruins the whole thing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 16:07:53 2020 No.4368970 File: 1.12 MB, 1140x1521, EQu5wSeUEAE2kF8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4368919 that does make sense

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 16:56:14 2020 No.4369042 File: 282 KB, 820x825, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw learning anatomy and can only draw sweet muscle girls now blessing or curse?

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 17:01:22 2020 No.4369052
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>>4368208
>>4368209
Pretty nice, thanks mate
This character is known for having a chest that draws attention, so I'm trying to emphasize them. I'll try to make both the same size without changing the volume too much.
The bottom left blue line was supposed to be the cape while the inner line the contour of the torso, I tried to make it clearer when I posted the second sketch but I still don't think it's right.
I'm insisting on this pose because it's an angle that gives me a lot of problems, so I'm glad to receive this kind of reply, I'll try these changes.

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 17:08:03 2020 No.4369066 [DELETED]

i got no replies in /beg/ so I'll post this here if someone can critique, particularly the linework, as it's the first time I've completed a full lineart .
*Imagine a sunset scene for the unfinished colors - on a hill with some flowers
This was from no reference, so general criticism would be good!

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 17:08:37 2020 No.4369070
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i got no replies in /beg/ so I'll post this here if someone can critique, particularly the linework, as it's the first time I've completed a full lineart .
*Imagine a sunset scene for the unfinished colors - on a hill with some flowers
This was from no reference, so general criticism would be good!

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 17:18:03 2020 No.4369087 File: 15 KB, 222x242, sai2_2020-02-14_22-15-06.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4369070 Literally if your fundies were better, this picture would be infinitely better, there's not much to say. >>4369042 Unless flat chest, it's a curse.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 17:23:13 2020 No.4369094 >>4369070 You need to work on more than just linework. Actually, linework is the least of your worries. Work on your fundamentals- line form shape gesture flow space etc

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 17:26:14 2020 No.4369105 >>4369094 yeah I meant line work as in the drawing, in absence of the colors

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 17:28:33 2020 No.4369114 >>4369105 I did not mention anything that has to do with colors

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 17:31:34 2020 No.4369122 >>4369114 what ? I mean the drawing itself while ignoring the colors

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 17:34:01 2020 No.4369131 >>4369122 Are you retarded. None of my criticism has to do with colors. I said work on your fundamentals.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 17:36:50 2020 No.4369138 File: 17 KB, 312x281, sai2_2020-02-14_22-35-45.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4369105 >>4369122 FEEL THE FORM.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 17:41:01 2020 No.4369144 File: 111 KB, 870x1034, c2234.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4369131 what the fuck? and I'm saying , by linework I mean just the line drawing of the image, not how the lines look themselves or something.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 17:41:39 2020 No.4369145 >>4369138 Says Mr. Flat himself. Can you even draw a fucking cube

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 17:48:49 2020 No.4369155 >>4369144 What the fuck are you talking about. How your lines look doesn't matter if your drawing is shit to begin with. FUNDIES BOI

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 17:48:52 2020 No.4369156 >>4369145 Without thinking about perspective and cubes, I wouldn't be able to draw, literally my shit looks like blocks. see >>4367485

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 17:50:40 2020 No.4369160 >>4369156 Just fuck off already jfc

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 17:52:55 2020 No.4369163 >>4369160 When I make you so furious, why would I ever bother leaving?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 17:58:26 2020 No.4369172 >>4369163 Not him but it is depressing seeing you continue drawing half assed doodles, I don't think we've ever seen you finish a complete drawing let alone a fully colored one.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 18:04:31 2020 No.4369178 >>4369144 yes, can you even read ?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 18:05:33 2020 No.4369181 >>4369155 yes, can you even read ? !!

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 18:07:56 2020 No.4369182
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>>4369172
I have no idea what's wrong with drawing to improve. I'm hitting some trigger point in drawing culture that IMO is wrong.

Finishing shit will not help you. It should be plainly obvious.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 18:10:42 2020 No.4369185 >>4369182 >>4369138 >>4369087 >>4368969 >>4367485 what is all this? just draw in black

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 18:11:02 2020 No.4369187 >>4369182 I half agree with him in that it may be good to define more things like the face and head for practice's sake. But I think you have the right idea overall.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 18:13:50 2020 No.4369190 >>4369182 In other words, you're in a comfort zone and absolutely refuse to leave. Don't give us any bullshit either finish a fucking drawing of fuck off you're a waste of breath at this point.

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 18:47:16 2020 No.4369244
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>>4369187
That's why I've been practicing heads, so I have some foundation for doing so.

>>4369190
Your problem is the assumption everyone coming here needs help with basics, I completely know I'm in my comfort zone. But I know the exact path I need to improve, and it involves solid fundies, otherwise everything I do now will take much much longer than I want it to.

You're so narcissistic, if you don't have a completely finished picture to criticize, you start a tantrum.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 18:52:40 2020 No.4369248 >>4369185 Black is dumb for learning line weight.

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 18:54:05 2020 No.4369251

>>4369244
I did not say everyone here needs help with the basics, you are a special exception because you've been doing this type of shit for over a year now and it is disheartening to see someone you want to improve be so self destructively lazy. But you're correct, my mistake when I first noticed you was that you were an innocent beginner playing around with proportions and learning about basic forms but as you've stated you're doing this on purpose for reasons that are beyond anyone.

I've never seen anyone that deliberately wants to handicap themselves except for that one furry fetishists that froze his hands off.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 18:56:10 2020 No.4369254 >>4369248 lmao

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 19:05:01 2020 No.4369271 File: 45 KB, 395x478, 1427546222.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4369251 I haven't been drawing as much as you think, it's only been under 2 months if you exclude every day I didn't practice.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 19:31:05 2020 No.4369322 File: 241 KB, 812x1200, tituria-oc.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Alright some changes now she has legs I don't know if I'm going to add the cape back worse? better?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 19:36:27 2020 No.4369331 >>4369322 Imagine changing the comp of your image because of some complaining retard that wont give you a 2nd glance

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 19:44:27 2020 No.4369352 File: 332 KB, 1000x1477, tituria-oc.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm retarded, now it's the right file Alright some changes now she has legs I don't know if I'm going to add the cape back worse? better?

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 20:25:46 2020 No.4369411
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Tried more complete girl from imagination. But adhd'd it.

>>4369352
Compared to the original, it''s not close to as good. Your lack of fundies are showing now in the anatomy. Though with skillful tidying up it wouldn't matter.

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 20:34:57 2020 No.4369422
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>>4369352
ins the cross arm position the arms goes under not around her boobs and if she were to lock her hands her tits will be around her neck level especially in titoras case since shes has a huge rack, anyway you need to put thes arms under otherwise it gives the impression that shes doesnt have a ribcage under her chest

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 20:37:13 2020 No.4369425 >>4369411 >Your lack of fundies are showing now in the anatomy Yeah, and now go look at your own drawing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 20:40:01 2020 No.4369426 File: 201 KB, 799x756, 142393442.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4369425 Different artstyles pal.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 20:42:05 2020 No.4369430 >>4369411 His is 100x more complete than yours, but I know you're just baiting at this point.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 20:47:42 2020 No.4369435 >>4369426 You know how it goes. Your artstyle is shit. Bro, you shouldn't using artstyle as crutch when you're a beginner anyway.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 20:51:43 2020 No.4369439 >>4369244 try like finishing your shit before you post it here

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 21:13:38 2020 No.4369459 >>4369435 I'm a beginner with the intelligence of an intermediate. Anatomy is useless, my dude. >>4369430 >>4369439 All you need is the idea.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 21:13:41 2020 No.4369460 >>4369422 Thanks lad, I appreciate it. I'm just finishing watching a vilppu video and I'm going to try what you suggested.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 21:20:17 2020 No.4369468 >Can't even finish a sketch Thats a yikes from me.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 21:45:00 2020 No.4369481 >>4369459 Just stop, you're just making a fool of yourself.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 21:47:38 2020 No.4369486 >>4369481 Just stop your life.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 21:52:31 2020 No.4369491 >>4369486 no, i want to draw

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 22:05:07 2020 No.4369501 >>4369459 A beginner that believes himself to be intermediate. A classical case of dunning kruger.

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 22:40:35 2020 No.4369542
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>>4369501
That's why I said with the intelligence of an intermediate, so I wouldn't have to the deal with your automated response. Regardless I'd rather be confident than a crap.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 22:41:46 2020 No.4369546 >>4369542 crab*

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 23:05:40 2020 No.4369582 >>4369542 i challenge you to study something, anything, instead of drawing these dumb quarter finished sketches that all look the same

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 23:28:53 2020 No.4369608 File: 18 KB, 159x520, sai2_2020-02-15_04-27-09.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4369582 I've been studying heads, but they're very difficult. I don't know what you mean.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 23:35:34 2020 No.4369613 >>4369608 Like find a piece of artwork that you like, and try to recreate it using the fundamental skills that you have been practicing. You should be able to do this.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 23:44:04 2020 No.4369625 File: 163 KB, 1319x977, _bobstudy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] study

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 23:49:12 2020 No.4369631

>>4368806
One of my arts once got retweeted by someone with 20k followers and it only got 150 likes and only a few new followers. Ah well, maybe next time I'll be lucky.

On the flip side, I'm in a smallish-medium artsy Discord server and there's a famous Twitter artist that sometimes posts there. Every now and then, some of us artist will have a conversation (just bantz) about the struggle of getting our foot in the door, especially on sites like Twitter. Mr 75k Twitter Followers stays silent, not even to offer to maybe boost anyone once in a while. Either he's an asshole towards "lower" artists, or he (smartly) doesn't want to open the floodgates for beggers to ask him to keep retweeting their art.

Maybe it's just me, but if I ever "make it", I will try to help some people if they need it....(just not to often to lessen the beggers out of nowhere)

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 00:10:50 2020 No.4369657 File: 460 KB, 1197x729, sai2_2020-02-15_05-07-48.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4369613 Man I wish I knew how to gradient like this dude or else I'd take this seriously.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 00:33:13 2020 No.4369682

>>4369657
lmao, this is not good dude. (and fuck off with that "im not taking this seriously lol" excuse)
her eyes aren't correct
her posture isn't correct
you just half assed every strand of hair and didn't even draw all of it
you didn't finish her clothing design
fingers are incorrect
mouth is incorrect
her collar? is hardly there, you failed to draw a simple sphere.
everything is just chicken scratched

3 words for you:
FEEL
THE
FORM

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 00:35:18 2020 No.4369686 >>4369682 Post your work

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 00:35:50 2020 No.4369687 File: 74 KB, 280x272, 1556332625965.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4369682 I should have known this is what you were up to.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 00:56:10 2020 No.4369715 >>4369631 >got boosted by a big boy twitter >still no followers im gonna go out on a limb and say your account is 95% shitpost retweets and 5% art. there has to be a backlog of content BEFORE you get the boost or it means nothing

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 01:02:15 2020 No.4369721 >>4369686 prove me wrong first

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 01:14:24 2020 No.4369736 File: 79 KB, 1160x583, 143838517287.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4369721 That's not me. But I know it's not good, I don't have proko copying skills, I couldn't really care less.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 01:16:56 2020 No.4369741 >>4369736 if you can't even copy accurately then there's no way in hell you can draw accurately from imagination, as you have clearly demonstrated

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 01:17:03 2020 No.4369743 File: 372 KB, 1201x1200, 02.15.20 study.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 01:28:44 2020 No.4369757 File: 23 KB, 239x210, 1487584695.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4369741 You have a point, but still, pyw.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 01:30:06 2020 No.4369761 >>4369757 >pyw these are mine >>4369042 >>4369625

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 01:36:37 2020 No.4369766 >>4369761 May you become a good photocopier.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 01:43:18 2020 No.4369772 >>4369766 >retard still doesn't get the point the first one isn't even a study, its from imagination. You learn by copying, and then you apply those principles to your own drawings. But have fun with your 5 second doodles and never improving.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 01:47:36 2020 No.4369777 >better than mikufag >better than asukafag >better than this gray sketch guy >better than gainsgoblin Better than at least 5% of /ic/

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 01:52:15 2020 No.4369782 File: 216 KB, 498x282, 151010398088.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4369772 You draw with a bunch of shortcuts like I do, you're nmi. Atleast I've only been drawing for a little while.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:18:41 2020 No.4369814 >>4369782 what nonsense are you saying now... shortcuts? And your "little while" has been at least 4 months, with literally 0 progress. Your sketches look identical now as they did then

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:28:44 2020 No.4369822

>>4369814
You're drawing with memory, rather than your main processing.
Everythings so messed up. Nipple pointing up, scaly muscles, I don't know what going on the with the shoulders and neck. And for an oppaifag you sure can't draw boobs. There's no form.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:34:49 2020 No.4369833

>>4369822
I'll admit I basically symbol drew the breasts because I haven't studied (i.e. copied from real life (which is why being able to copy is important (which is something you can't do))) how they work yet. The rest is just your ignorance. This criticism is rich coming from you, you can't even draw a single straight line, let alone know anything about anatomy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 03:13:21 2020 No.4369871 File: 99 KB, 297x170, 1561638335643.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Anon who draws corrects with inputs another Anon who draws >Anon who thinks he can draw criticizing an anon who actually can draw

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:56:37 2020 No.4369966 >>4369814 lmao that guy has been at it for at least 8 months with 0 progress

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:02:48 2020 No.4369971 I recently got a new PC and fucking CSP is fucking randomly stuttering with current gen hardware. This never happened in my 10 year old shitbox. WHAT THE FUCK HOW DO I FIX THIS SHIT?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:08:43 2020 No.4369978 >>4369971 There's a reason why all mangaka use the Apple iPad Pro 12.9 now. It just works.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 08:00:57 2020 No.4370122

>>4369822

That's why you're not improving. You're undervaluing the importance of memory. All knowledge is in memory. No, and memory doesn't mean you have to draw the exact same thing you copied. It's all about expanding your visual library so you can draw from imagination properly.
And what the hell is "main processing"?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 10:30:36 2020 No.4370252 Is there any Boys' Love reference book that doesn't look like hot garbage?

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 12:11:50 2020 No.4370406
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>>4370122
You either practice become a inflexible pin up artist like these dudes and get good at copying.
>>4363452
>>4363733
>>4365578
>>4365694
>>4367421
>>4369042
>>4369052

Or you use your memory, active brain, break down shit, understand why it works, and learn to draw properly in quarter of the time. The shit you guys "study", you don't need to learn f you have good fundies.

And what hell is is "visual memory". You mean learning to draw the same way over and over again?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 12:19:05 2020 No.4370421 ^ LMAO this fuck has been posting practically the same kind of sketches for MONTHS Literally everyone posting here is far, far ahead.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 12:32:02 2020 No.4370448

>>4370406
Literally the most retarded person I've ever encountered. You have no idea what you're talking about. Maybe if you could back up the nonsense you're saying with some actual results, people would take you seriously. But you're a joke, a bitter loser who can't get out of his comfort zone. I asked you to draw something not shit, and you tried and failed spectacularly. Nothing you say is valid.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 13:14:04 2020 No.4370512 File: 40 KB, 512x586, 1581612961724.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4370421 and yet everyone is stupid enough to take his baits

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 13:19:21 2020 No.4370519

New guy that doesnt post a lot (I just come here for the books in the OP).
I've been studying on how to improve my drawing for about a month now and I've gotten better at using my graphics tablet.
I am having trouble with making a good estimate on how big/small I need to make certain guides when drawing (especially in angles other than 3/4th).
Like I'll make a circle to use as the base for the head and it feels off.
Is it just a matter of copying more till it becomes second nature and you stop wondering if you're doing something wrong ?
Sorry in advanced if it's a dumb question but I just want to ask you guys/girls since you know more about this kind of thing (some of you are really good in my opinion).

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 13:20:32 2020 No.4370522 >>4370519 Yes, do it for more years and you'll be good. A month of drawing is good, but more is good too.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 13:22:43 2020 No.4370525

>>4370522
Thanks
I just felt stupid since I figured I would be able to understand this relatively well after about a month.
Most of the heads I'm making seem to default to moeblob styling so I might just need to copy more serious styled manga to get around that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 14:03:38 2020 No.4370568 File: 162 KB, 582x926, Screenshot (73).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] fanart wip

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 14:06:02 2020 No.4370572 >>4370568 cute

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 14:09:33 2020 No.4370575 File: 461 KB, 596x512, 1574960214413.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4370568

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 14:17:37 2020 No.4370587 >>4370519 I kinda have the same problem. I mean how do i know if drwaing endless boxes, lines and poses actually makes me better and how do i know if i'm not just doing it wrong over and over again.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 14:40:52 2020 No.4370620 >>4363348 Yet.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 14:48:29 2020 No.4370626 >>4370587 this is asg anon; youre not supposed to get better. youre supposed to stay contained.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 15:07:44 2020 No.4370657
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>tfw realizing I've been doing FEEL THE FORM wrong from being influenced by all these studyfags

Now I remember how to practice, that was a close one bros...

>>4370568
Too much copying. not enough construction and form.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 15:23:33 2020 No.4370678 >>4370568 Weak pose. Study gesture

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 15:35:46 2020 No.4370697 >>4370678 Gesture is nothing compared to the lack of perspective, it's one big symbol drawing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 15:41:28 2020 No.4370704 >>4370697 Eh, that feels less jarring than the stiff pose. But you're right too definitely

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 15:48:21 2020 No.4370710 >>4370657 Did you ever actually finish a piece or do you always stop after a few grey scribbles?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 15:53:16 2020 No.4370717 File: 36 KB, 463x509, 2020-02-15_20-50-40.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4370710 I like the process, more than the result. So yeah just scribbles.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 16:09:04 2020 No.4370741 >>4370717 So why do all scibbles if you never gonna do a finished piece?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 16:11:59 2020 No.4370746 >>4370575 >>4370697 ouch

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 16:15:51 2020 No.4370749
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>>4370741
Improve dreams, daydreams, better visualization, and maybe improve my imagination.

I've already did enough consooooming for one life, and need some creating now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 16:21:56 2020 No.4370758 >>4370741 >>4370710 stop replying to him faggot

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 16:36:39 2020 No.4370779 File: 49 KB, 672x492, 1467143928562.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 16:46:09 2020 No.4370799 >>4370758 I saw this guy post on 8kun's drawing board, and yeah, he has definitely mental issues. Don't bother with him.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 16:59:14 2020 No.4370817 File: 38 KB, 234x199, 151466691.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4370799 Just because I post on 8kun, doesn't make me mentally ill.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 17:07:51 2020 No.4370845 >>4370817 You and I both know that words mean jack shit here. How about you make picture with your progress over time that shows the superiority of your method?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 17:29:25 2020 No.4370870 File: 45 KB, 480x540, 1580709470574.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4370568 mannequins are the biggest beg traps desu

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 17:32:05 2020 No.4370873 File: 11 KB, 464x345, 14398563999.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4370845 I don't want anyone in this thread overtaking me though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 17:33:02 2020 No.4370874 >>4370845 STOP TALKING TO HIM AHHHH

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 17:37:51 2020 No.4370880 File: 37 KB, 628x778, fatass.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I can draw floating children torsos too

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 17:51:26 2020 No.4370897 File: 23 KB, 274x495, 2020-02-15_22-47-10.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4370880 It looks good, but doesn't look like it will translate well to a full body, since it's so flat. But clearly you're just here to meme.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 17:53:32 2020 No.4370899 >>4370897 Redline it senpai

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 18:05:26 2020 No.4370912 File: 46 KB, 628x778, 1581806271580s.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4370899 I tried.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 18:11:59 2020 No.4370916 >>4370912 Puffy

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 18:12:34 2020 No.4370917 >>4370912 Reasonable. Yeah, I had a problem with inconsistent perspective. You surpassed my expectations so I'll leave you alone.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 18:19:33 2020 No.4370921 >>4370880 >>4370899 >>4370917 BRUH HE DIDN'T EVEN FUCKING CHANGE IT, STOP INTERACTING WITH THIS LITERAL RETARD

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 18:24:44 2020 No.4370927 >>4370921 Sorry, he got me infected with the ngmi.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 18:56:29 2020 No.4370962 File: 58 KB, 425x670, White81.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >when everything you were practicing comes together If only copy fags knew these feels.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 20:44:46 2020 No.4371111 File: 126 KB, 466x607, sai2_2020-02-16_01-43-08.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Color study. Can't seem to get the gradients right.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 21:54:34 2020 No.4371174 File: 148 KB, 442x529, 2020-02-16_02-53-25.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Yeah, coloring is for autists.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 21:58:48 2020 No.4371177 >>4371111 >>4371174 Beg

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 22:01:13 2020 No.4371180 >>4371177 It's fine, I'm studying anime.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 22:05:21 2020 No.4371184 File: 114 KB, 618x730, kisame....jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] anon you can't understand my pain

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 22:11:30 2020 No.4371187 >>4371184 I probably can. I have a sore wrist from coloring now. Cool drawing though, should probably just color like that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 23:32:30 2020 No.4371256 >>4371180 >its fine wrong

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 23:41:20 2020 No.4371264 File: 1.51 MB, 1440x2960, 1581827867819.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i think i'm fucked at this point

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 23:42:27 2020 No.4371267 File: 174 KB, 486x1000, 1581827867819.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i think i'm fucked at this point

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 00:20:59 2020 No.4371326 >>4371267 Figure looks good, just need to get started in improving your confident lines or confident lines layers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 00:25:36 2020 No.4371330 >>4371267 the sketches look pretty good, your line art is terrible try improving that, have more confidence with your lines

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 00:39:09 2020 No.4371346 >>4369757 >>4369761 >when 2 /beg/s are having an argument. Lmao

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 00:46:14 2020 No.4371355 >>4371346 Hey bud, let's stop shitting up the thread with this bullshit and let it go

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 00:52:56 2020 No.4371364 File: 50 KB, 620x487, White82.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4371256 I know it's shit. >>4371267 Mechanical skill is most of the drawing battle, for most people. >>4371346 LOL

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 00:54:53 2020 No.4371366 File: 51 KB, 631x481, White82.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4371256 I know it's shit. >>4371267 Mechanical skill is most of the drawing battle, for most people. >>4371346 LOL

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 01:06:41 2020 No.4371393 >>4369715 Read better. I said "a few new followers". And my twitter is mostly (others' retweeted) art. I was actually surprised.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 01:10:50 2020 No.4371400 >>4371393 >And my twitter is mostly (others' retweeted) art. Yikes.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 04:39:25 2020 No.4371746 File: 519 KB, 1920x1200, 02.16. 20 study.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] smol and big proportions

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 04:41:03 2020 No.4371748 File: 398 KB, 1317x1500, hate drawing big.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4371746

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 04:42:06 2020 No.4371749 >>4371748 Didnt meant to quote

Anonymous Sun Feb 16 05:27:05 2020 No.4371784

>>4370678
Post your work that you were able to do after studying gesture.
Honestly I think gesture is like a lot of other superstitions on this board, a few art teachers said it works for them but honestly I've never seen anyone actually improve from doing those weird abstract line drawings. But I'll be happy to be proven wrong.

Anonymous Sun Feb 16 08:07:45 2020 No.4371980

>>4371784
Gesture is mostly a way to understand how the body redistributes weight.
In your drawing it looks very stiff and floaty because there is no weight being distributed.
While I agree that gesture is being a bit overblown in terms of importance, you should atleast do some gesture drawings every now and then to help you remember how the body works.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 08:28:58 2020 No.4372013 File: 105 KB, 1818x930, sus.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Rate progress

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 08:29:48 2020 No.4372014 >>4371980 I'm not the guy who did the drawing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 08:30:20 2020 No.4372016 >>4372013 /beg/ outta 10. Perfect for a thread like this.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 08:43:38 2020 No.4372035 >>4370519 I also feel constrained when I start with a circle or the skull/jaw. Try working backwards. Draw features first and then draw the jaw and skull around them.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 12:38:30 2020 No.4372454 >>4371784 How about you fucking pick up a book instead of complaining about some conspiracy theory you made up to justify your laziness... I find it hard to take someone seriously who doesn't believe in GESTURE of all things, jfc

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 15:17:04 2020 No.4372717 File: 66 KB, 631x481, 1581832493691.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4371366 Re-posting your drawing in an image people can see.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 15:36:12 2020 No.4372757 File: 89 KB, 358x399, 145090523674.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4372717 I'm trying to find a good balance. Man my art yesterday was shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 16:19:23 2020 No.4372825 >>4372454 Show me a professional artist (not an art teacher) who starts their drawings with a full gesture (the type of thing Vilppu and Proko do). There are lots of videos of pros working online. Shouldn't be hard to find one.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 17:00:11 2020 No.4372861 File: 18 KB, 809x885, balls.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do bodies work?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 17:04:07 2020 No.4372868 >>4372861 Follow proper proportions and the rest is simple.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 17:06:38 2020 No.4372873 File: 32 KB, 292x564, sai2_2020-02-16_22-04-05.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4372861 As someone who has drawn only loli bodies. It's all on the aim, which you don't have as a beginner.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 17:09:45 2020 No.4372881 >>4372868 How do you judge proportions with only balls and lines?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 17:13:24 2020 No.4372888 >>4372881 With your hands, but if you're bad at that, might as well grab a ruler and make sure they're the same lengths.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 17:16:28 2020 No.4372895 >>4372888 But when you change perspective, how would you know they are in correct proportions? If it's just memorizing lines, then why wouldn't you just learn to draw complete figures in different poses instantly?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 17:18:03 2020 No.4372901 >>4372895 Loomis has a page on that, basically if you know perspective, it's not that big of a deal. Might take some practice though. Human body is surprisingly flexible.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 17:18:42 2020 No.4372903 >>4372873 So what should I do then

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 17:23:35 2020 No.4372918 >>4372903 Gotta do the grind, replicate shit with your eyes.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 17:25:00 2020 No.4372922 File: 103 KB, 275x183, saadman.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4372918 I'll never make it

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 17:27:36 2020 No.4372931 >>4372861 They work by having the rib cage closer to the pelvis than you have it, for one.

Anonymous Sun Feb 16 17:29:56 2020 No.4372943

>>4372895
If you REALLY want to know if you have it correct then read Scott Robertson's How to Draw and go full autismo with making a 2D proportion map, projecting it into perspective, building 3D cross sections off of your map, etc. No pro actually does that though, they just eyeball it and use the intuition they've gained from thousands of hours of mileage to feel out what's right. Or use a photo ref.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 17:31:49 2020 No.4372948 >>4372931 >implying he even knows there's a rib cage and pelvis

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 17:33:37 2020 No.4372953 >>4372931 How am I supposed to see that when those fucking stupid balls are on the way goddamit I hate them

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 17:38:46 2020 No.4372974 File: 10 KB, 210x333, sai2_2020-02-16_22-34-08.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4372922 Drawn literally 1000s of torsos and only somehow barely get it from imagination. How the fuck someone not insane gets into drawing is beyond me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 17:39:55 2020 No.4372976 >>4372974 My torso wasn't even imagination, I followed a guide.

Anonymous Sun Feb 16 17:45:36 2020 No.4372990

Holy fuck nuke this thread and everyone in it. You're all retards taking advice from other retards, asking for "tricks" on how to draw but don't want to a) read a book on proper methods or b) actually draw and practice. Fucking grow up.
Like what the fuck is this "ball and line" shit^?? You're confused because its some bullshit someone on pinterest made up. If you want to learn how to draw, PICK UP A BOOK AND LEARN PROPER ANATOMY, THERE ARE NO SHORTCUTS.

and finally stop TALKING AND LISTENING TO GREY SKETCH MAN, he is RETARDED and PURPOSEFULLY giving bad advice.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 17:47:44 2020 No.4372994 >>4372976 That's normal, bright side though, you get better as long as you try to get better, and quicker.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 17:49:26 2020 No.4372996 >>4372990 This, but unironically

Anonymous Sun Feb 16 17:51:30 2020 No.4373005
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>>4372994
I just don't get this shit. Lines. Dots. Squares. I've been trying to understand these guidelines for like 10 years (on and off of course) and it's just a complete mess to me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 17:57:10 2020 No.4373021 File: 16 KB, 209x188, click,click,click.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4373005 There's nothing to understand, I wouldn't use this as a reference ever. This is a retarded good artist giving a retarded reference.

Anonymous Sun Feb 16 17:58:52 2020 No.4373027

>>4373021
It's just one picture. Like every guide ever mensions "just draw a ball" and I get lost. There are teenage girls that understand all of this, fucking disney makes their animations like that but I just don't know what I'm supposed to even practice there. It's all just wobbly wonky shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 18:04:34 2020 No.4373038 >>4373027 I think it's for proportions, I can see a high level artist using it to understand an artstyle, regardless. You have much time till be worrying about it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 18:05:57 2020 No.4373041 >>4373038 I'm worrying about it now cause I can't make any pictures without bodies.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 18:08:35 2020 No.4373048 >>4373041 >>4373027 >>4373005 HOLY FUCK STOP USING GUIDES AND LEARN ANATOMY FUCKING RETARD HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY STOP TALKING TO SKETCH-TARD

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 18:08:36 2020 No.4373049 >>4373041 I say I use Imagination, but I still need a reference to mentally project form inside my head to draw it. It's a problem if you can't turn it, use foreshortening and perspective.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 18:10:23 2020 No.4373055 >>4373048 Fucking hell, I don't have time to become a fucking surgeon and a master of anatomy, when I want to make one anime style picture around this time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 18:16:57 2020 No.4373069 File: 17 KB, 260x414, 2020-02-16_23-13-48.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4373055 I use hampton for anatomy, and imo, simple is best for learning. Feel the form, very important.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 18:19:51 2020 No.4373074 >>4372974 Proof you've drawn 1000s of torsos?

Anonymous Sun Feb 16 18:26:24 2020 No.4373086
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>>4373074
I have lots of pictures in the archive, and on /loomis/. But I only keep like small percentage of my favourite drawings on them, though more as I get better.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 18:36:05 2020 No.4373105 been copying rinotuna's book his shit is so appealing maybe not the most efficient way to improve but definitely more fun than doing loomis heads

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 18:38:07 2020 No.4373115 File: 1.14 MB, 1792x849, kind drawing page i forgot.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4373105 forgot the pic. fuck

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 18:39:40 2020 No.4373123 >>4373115 Whatever makes you feel good I guess. Won't discourage you since /ic/ already does that by default.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 18:39:53 2020 No.4373124 File: 11 KB, 465x811, hard.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is so fucking impossibly hard that I'm crying

Anonymous Sun Feb 16 18:50:46 2020 No.4373151

>>4373124
Its hard because you don't know what you're doing. Read hampton or literally anyone who knows what they're talking about. But you're just gonna say "b-but I don't wanna be a doctor so I don't need to know anatomy wahhhh", then just shut the fuck up and stop complaining how hard it is to do something you never put in the effort to learn how to do. You people are literal children who don't understand the concept of work and practice, and getting out of your comfort zone.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 18:51:37 2020 No.4373155 >>4372717 How did you darken his lines like that without accessing his layers?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 18:53:08 2020 No.4373159 File: 162 KB, 1600x1098, a481a8f060267496a9730203d6f64637.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4373151 It's again these fucking cubes what the fuck is this shit

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 18:53:46 2020 No.4373160 >>4373123 dont worry ill do fundies every now and then.and in a few years ill be a god tier generic anime artist

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 18:54:32 2020 No.4373162 >>4373159 Hey buddy, there's this magical thing called READING where he explains what is happening, I know its hard but it'll help. I know you're a 5 year old child but reading is a good skill to learn for the future.

Anonymous Sun Feb 16 18:56:53 2020 No.4373168

>>4373159
Also you skipped right to the middle of the book for some reason (because you're immature, impatient, and looking for shortcuts) but if you actually went through the book and practiced all the fundamental exercises he lays out and explains the form, gesture, shape, and role of each muscle, you would be able to understand that image.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 18:57:26 2020 No.4373169 File: 104 KB, 751x548, what.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4373162

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 18:58:43 2020 No.4373173 >>4373169 What don't you understand. Also, again you're just skipping to random parts of the book. Do you understand how a book works?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:01:15 2020 No.4373176 >>4373173 How is a cylinder at all helpful

Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:03:22 2020 No.4373180

>>4373176
Doesn't matter if it's a cylinder or box or whatever. The thing is that you need to understand depth and perspective and basic forms will help with that. You could know the human body in and out and know every single muscle and you would still not be able to draw a human body at most angles.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:04:22 2020 No.4373183 >>4373176 Because its a simplified model of the arm that will help you to place it correctly in space. Learn to read. Fucking retard

Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:05:32 2020 No.4373187

>>4373180
But you still need to draw proportions, angels etc. That's what I don't understand with these cylinders and boxes, how are they in any way helpful when I'm actually doing a figure, when I'm still doing the figure that I can't do, except now it's even more complicated.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:07:39 2020 No.4373192 >>4373187 Serious question how old are you? You can't be older than 15

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:08:04 2020 No.4373193 >>4373192 25

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:08:29 2020 No.4373194 >>4373193 Do you know how to read?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:09:04 2020 No.4373199 >>4373194 No

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:09:57 2020 No.4373201 >>4373168 Not the person you're responding to, but what book are you talking about? IIt looks like good shit and I could do with some actual exercises to work at

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:10:43 2020 No.4373204 >>4373199 Then your only solution is finding an actual teacher in real who can get these ideas through your thick skull. >>4373201 Michael Hampton, Figure Drawing Design and Invention. Highly recommend.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:12:01 2020 No.4373206 >>4373204 >anon actually delivered Thanks man, I'll look into it

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:13:04 2020 No.4373208 >>4373204 So there's really no point in using abstract shapes instead of just doing stuff normally, ok.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:19:17 2020 No.4373221 >>4373208 Not at all what I said you absolute single digit IQ mouth breather

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:20:31 2020 No.4373223 >>4373221 Well then tell me the point. How is it at all helpful?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:22:19 2020 No.4373226 >>4373223 How is what helpful?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:23:04 2020 No.4373227 >>4373226 Using cylinders and cubes

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:24:22 2020 No.4373228 >>4373227 Already been explained multiple times.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:25:11 2020 No.4373231 >>4373228 What's different about moving a cylinder and moving a hunk of meat around in space?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:28:58 2020 No.4373233 >>4373231 A cylinder is simpler?? Just like you

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:30:30 2020 No.4373236 >>4373233 So? You should be able to move around the arm itself, because in the end you need to still draw that shit in over the cylinder

Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:33:41 2020 No.4373239

>>4373236
Because if you know how the muscles are positioned and move/ stretch on the cylinder, you can position the cylinder first and build around it, which is significantly easier than drawing a finished arm right from the get go. If you're just gonna disagree with me on this then I don't know what to tell you other than to read the book.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:35:32 2020 No.4373240 >>4373239 Ok thanks, now theres atleast some point for it. I still don't see how it is helpful when you still need to know all the proportion shit but whatever.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:36:03 2020 No.4373241 File: 38 KB, 393x411, sai2_2020-02-17_00-33-33.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4373227 YOU CAN'T DO SHIT WITHOUT BASIC SHAPES.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:37:29 2020 No.4373243 >>4373241 Why not

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:37:53 2020 No.4373244 >>4373240 Don't draw. Its not for you.

Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:38:58 2020 No.4373250

>>4373151
Protip: Even if he reads Hampton right now, he will still suck afterwards. You're kinda just setting him up for more disappointment by giving him the impression that if he just reads the proper information then he'll be a good artist. He won't. Knowledge is maybe 5-10% of drawing, the rest is practice.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:40:38 2020 No.4373253 >>4373243 Everything I draw is a cube, ball or pyramid. I'm not saying more.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:40:56 2020 No.4373254 >>4373250 Of course but the guy is literally asking what the point of knowing how to draw a cylinder is. He's gotta start somewhere. Obviously he shouldn't just READ hampton but do all the exercises and practice

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:41:29 2020 No.4373256 >>4373241 you cant draw

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:41:57 2020 No.4373258 >>4373253 I see only lines

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:43:22 2020 No.4373261 >>4373256 Good one, I'll wait till someone in this thread posts a picture with better skills.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:43:26 2020 No.4373262 >>4373254 I was asking what is the point of putting in useless shapes instead of bodyparts, not about drawing shapes in general

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:43:29 2020 No.4373263 >>4373254 You can tell from the exchange on here that the dude is obviously mentally challenged. He couldn't comprehend the simple abstract thinking it takes even if he did all the steps.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:43:41 2020 No.4373264 File: 350 KB, 833x850, side1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Here's a messy 3/4 sketch. Any tips for shaping the far eye accurately?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:45:08 2020 No.4373266 >>4373263 Now that isnt very nice

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:45:37 2020 No.4373267 >>4373261 That's literally everyone here. >>4373262 THEY AREN'T USELESS SHAPES HOW FUCKING DENSE ARE YOU >>4373263 Everyone here is mentally challenged, I'm gonna get a fucking aneurysm.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:47:50 2020 No.4373269 >>4373267 They are pretty useless, if you know how to draw a figure and a human, you wouldn't need a cylinder instead of an arm.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:48:49 2020 No.4373272 >>4373269 aaaaand you're just trolling, nice talking to you though, you only shortened my lifespan about 10 years

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:49:11 2020 No.4373274 >>4373267 >I'm gonna get a fucking aneurysm. You walked down this path replying to every bait post he made

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:50:53 2020 No.4373281 >>4373272 I'm not trolling >>4373241 This dude says he used only triangles, squares and circles. There's only circles and even they are ovals, and two triangles.

Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:52:40 2020 No.4373286

>>4373274
If I didn't respond, some fucking dunning kruger would only do more harm. There needs to be some quality control on the posts here, and for the love of God get rid of sketch nigger somehow
>>4373281
THATS FUCKING SKETCH FAGGOT JUST IGNORE HIM GOD DAMMIT, NOTHING HE SAYS IS WORTH ANYTHING

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:52:56 2020 No.4373288 File: 21 KB, 309x469, sai2_2020-02-17_00-51-11.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4373267 There's literally no way someone in this thread is capable of doing a picture like this in a minute. >>4373281 I'm not going to name all shapes.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:54:05 2020 No.4373292 >>4373288 But those are the only real two shapes in your picture.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:55:49 2020 No.4373297 >>4373292 Okay, well you got me. Very good.

Anonymous Sun Feb 16 19:57:17 2020 No.4373308

>>4373286
I get that you just want to help. But at this stage whats the point? You're only stressing your self out more. Who care's if it the blind leading the blind. Let them shoot them shoot each other in the feet. You can improve without them. All the good artists abandoned this place long ago.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 20:24:05 2020 No.4373351 who's creating a new thread, before this is truly a containment general

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 21:06:28 2020 No.4373414 >>4373351 Have Aqua do it or that faggot >< admin

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 21:29:26 2020 No.4373456 File: 69 KB, 950x650, Created.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4363400 Stop shitposting and draw. If I can draw this in 10 minutes you can too.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 21:49:23 2020 No.4373501 File: 51 KB, 292x547, sai2_2020-02-17_02-48-40.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4373456 Fuck you, I always draw when I can.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 21:51:50 2020 No.4373508 >>4373456 >the chad 10 minute poster >>4373501 >the virgin light grey sketch poster

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 22:13:03 2020 No.4373540 >>4373456 based >>4373501 cringe

Anonymous Sun Feb 16 22:19:50 2020 No.4373558
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>>4373501
The only way you get better is get off social media, discord for awhile. I was like you on discord instant of drawing and it gotten nowhere. I did this in 45minutes because I was chatting on discord, change every likes on twitter, shitposting. I was just drawing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 22:20:43 2020 No.4373559 File: 1.91 MB, 540x304, cat gd.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4373508 >>4373540 Do you guys really hate me that much? You can't seriously be comparing a reference to imagination.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 22:22:55 2020 No.4373561 >>4373559 fuck off

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 22:24:21 2020 No.4373564 >>4373559 I think you're funny and draw cute stuff, but could use some less posting here.

Anonymous Sun Feb 16 22:28:16 2020 No.4373572
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>>4373558
>>4373564
I know what you mean, drawing is a mind bender, but I'm fine as things are for now. This is the only place I'm chatting right now. I need something to stimulate my ADHD. Dopamine, focus, it's a hard thing to handle.

Anyhow I know this isn't ideal.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 23:42:46 2020 No.4373740 File: 760 KB, 850x1233, 1581914445 (1).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4373264 Dude just observe and memorize it lmao nobody will master drawing head

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 17 00:09:54 2020 No.4373791 File: 42 KB, 327x361, sai2_2020-02-17_05-06-50.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4373740 You only need, forward and side, and there's a pattern. It will be very easy to figure out with good fundies. And i'm not talking about chibi.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 17 01:01:39 2020 No.4373881 >>4373155 Photoshop>image>adjustments>brightness/contrast.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 17 01:02:20 2020 No.4373883 File: 52 KB, 800x450, MGSV-TPP-Wounded-Kaz.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4372990 this, where are the fucking mods? pls ban that grey sketch fag and everyone who replied him more than once

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 17 01:08:06 2020 No.4373895 File: 824 KB, 1022x574, 1579686972541.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How to I learn how to make appealing characters?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 17 01:08:50 2020 No.4373898 >>4373895 By drawing

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 17 01:11:12 2020 No.4373903 >>4373895 Perfection.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 17 02:00:17 2020 No.4373938 File: 20 KB, 221x480, 2020-02-17_06-58-48.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4373883 pyw or stfu

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 17 09:04:42 2020 No.4374333 >>4373791 This is bizarre. You're like a parody of /ic/, saying that you know the one true way to draw and yet constantly demonstrating your utter lack of skill.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 17 10:45:51 2020 No.4374520 File: 821 KB, 2550x3300, OL-elf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is my latest completed work. I used Yanbaru's Takizawa san as a ref. I can't help but think it looks flat. Any advice would be appreciated.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 17 11:09:39 2020 No.4374560 File: 55 KB, 346x322, 1577986027122.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4374520 >anime study >that nose I think you're looking for /alt/

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 17 11:20:46 2020 No.4374579 New Thread: >>4374577 >>4374577 >>4374577

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