/beg/ - THE BEGINNER THREAD

[Anonymous No.3204136]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the Drawthread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make someone proud.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:

#1)
>screenshot the image and post that instead

#2)
>change camera capture settings to something smaller

#3)
>send to computer and resize in MSPaint

→ →
There's a new (and cleaner) sticky in town! You can see it at:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

TRY TO BE MORE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.

PREVIOUS THREAD: >>3201564

[Anonymous No.3204138]

ESSENTIALS:

>>>/ic/thread/3023643
Links to many art books including as Keys to Drawing (Dodson), Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain (Edwards), Perspective Made Easy (Norling), Color and Light (Gurney), The Vilppu Drawing Manual (Vilppu) and How to Draw (Robertson).

>http://ctrlpaint.com
A website dedicated to understanding the basics and process of digital painting, based in Adobe Photoshop. Library of over 200 free videos.

>http://quickposes.com
Free pose library to practice drawing the human figure (as well as a portrait library). Draw at your own pace or set a timer for quick gesture drawings.

>https://www.youtube.com/user/onairvideo
Croquis Cafe - Timed model poses.

>http://drawabox.com
Controversial yet helpful introductory course on the fundamentals of drawing with a focus on understanding the concept of form and thinking in a 3-dimensional mindset while you draw.

>Your local life drawing class
Life drawing is an indispensable tool in your art career. Do not be intimidated based on your skill level - there will always be someone worse than you and someone better than you. Use this opportunity to meet new artists for learning, critique, and growth.

[Anonymous No.3204141]

[Anonymous No.3204142]

>>3204136
Why'd you make the entire thread ugly

[Anonymous No.3204144]

>>3204141
That suit looks super uncomfortable on his neck.

[Anonymous No.3204145]

taking a look at prokos usage of loomis in his head videos. gonna rebuild the ones he does first and then look where i go from there

[Anonymous No.3204146]

>>3204141
You did to George Lucas what he did to the Star Wars franchise.

[Anonymous No.3204159]

Just did this, first "big" drawing. (and just a WIP)
Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.3204161]

this is warcraft 1 art

[Anonymous No.3204163]

>>3204159

You gonna paint it?

[Anonymous No.3204164]

>>3204161
this is warcraft 2 art. he got better i think?

[Anonymous No.3204167]

>>3204164
was he finally git gut?

[Anonymous No.3204170]

>>3204164

If you google an artist name and there's more photo of them than the art. That says a lot...

[Anonymous No.3204176]

>>3204170
chris metzen is known as a game designer though. if you want to see more blizzard art google samwise, or check this out
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/media/artwork/

I just wanted to remind beginners how shit some of these guys were and they still went on to do great things.

[Anonymous No.3204178]

perspective can SUCK my DICK

[Anonymous No.3204190]

>>3204163
I don't know, never painted before, should i try?

[Anonymous No.3204193]

is there anything harder than learning to draw as an adult?

[Anonymous No.3204199]

>>3204193

Face is one of the hardest thing to draw. Doesn't matter when you start.

The bad thing about starting late is you aware of how shit you are. Just grit your teeth and practice.

Sucking is temporary.

[Anonymous No.3204202]

>>3204199
thanks

I just noticed how extremely different each eye is wtf it looks way worse on the picture

if u block one side it looks better lol

[Anonymous No.3204213]

>>3204193
Learning to code. Can't get my head round the most basic thing.

I think the 2 things that are letting down your drawing is the eyes and lips, I would put the ref photo next to your drawing on your drawing software, and colourpick area by area to see where you went wrong with the values, the edges of eyes and lips don't have an outline irl, also eyebrows tend to gradient light to dark from the centre of the forehead (where the hair is more sparse) out to the edge.

[Anonymous No.3204222]

>>3204202
Well, at least you have some nice stroke confidence and consistency.

[Anonymous No.3204228]

Reposting Again

Thank you

[Anonymous No.3204230]

>>3204213
Yeah the eyes are the worst part of it I think so too, the lips are kinda bad, the nose actually seems kinda 3D which im happy about. I know about the outline of the lips, the bottom one is actually a shadow and the one on top was kind of an accident, I tried to make it the same value as the upper lips but failed and it's way more apparent on the picture than the drawing itself.


>>3204222
Thanks when I don't feel motivated to try and draw I just do straight lines and/or circles for hours but I still feel I have a shaky hand.

[Anonymous No.3204232]

>>3204228
what is the point of this

[Anonymous No.3204282]

How is my line work

[Anonymous No.3204287]

>>3204232
am i that bad :(

[Anonymous No.3204297]

>>3204282
filename says it all

[Anonymous No.3204307]

>>3204297
I don't know what I expected. Any exercises for improving?

[Anonymous No.3204316]

>>3204307
Just keep drawing or do the line exercises from drawabox. Even if people meme on the program, the line exercise is solid.

[Anonymous No.3204332]

>>3204193
Learning to make money

[Anonymous No.3204396]

a lot of smudge brush

[Anonymous No.3204408]

>>3204282
1-Scale your drawing
2-Download gimp and toy with the retinex and saturation option, I can see the damn shadow of the photo
3-Doing a pencil or pen rendering tutoring book should improve your lines a lot. You can also do drawabox.

[Anonymous No.3204413]

>>3204159
doesnt look like the road and the power lines are going back to the same vanishing point. If that dot where the road leads to is the vanishing point the power lines are about a centimeter off. Would be nice to see one of the foreground sphere things breaking the horizon, would give it more depth.

[Anonymous No.3204414]

>>3204159
You should ink it or get a scanner

Is barely visible

[Anonymous No.3204417]

Just making shit harder by using this fucking brush...

[Anonymous No.3204442]

>>3204136
Dude Tyler's head meat isn't that uneven

[Anonymous No.3204468]

Currently in artblock but I need to practice, could someone give me some suggestions?

[Anonymous No.3204469]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGEhWQN0FBM ;

[Anonymous No.3204470]

>>3204468
Cute anime girls

[Anonymous No.3204484]

Asked this in the old thread but got no reply:

I'm learning how to draw (still doing figure drawing) and I'm planning on learning how to draw pretty much everything before I start painting (people, backgrounds, complex things in perspective). Is this a good approach? Building my house before I paint it sort of idea?

[Anonymous No.3204494]

>>3204484
imo just focus on one thing at a time then move onto other topics as youre getting bored of one thing or feel like youre at a decent point to move on. idk or you can do a little of everything and take forever to get good at just one thing.

[Anonymous No.3204501]

>>3204484

If you can draw a decent faces and figure you can pretty much draw anything organic.

[Anonymous No.3204505]

I just started messing around with clip studio. Which brush do I even start with

[Anonymous No.3204506]

>>3204417

[Anonymous No.3204507]

>>3204484
in my imo i would just learn what i need exactly at the current moment, like your making your BG so its time to start learning perspective, etc

[Anonymous No.3204518]

I wish I could finish a drawing..

[Anonymous No.3204520]

Started drawing recently. I filled up this page with doodles and let's say I want to color it, how would I select my colors? I looked around in Adobe Color but nothing felt good.

[Anonymous No.3204523]

>>3204141
Check your plumb lines.

[Anonymous No.3204537]

any advice or guide on drawing (shading) realistic hair?
I want to make this sketch to something nice

[Anonymous No.3204538]

>>3204506
Is that looking at me?

[Anonymous No.3204540]

>>3204537
also advice about eyes and eyebrows
as you see, I can't into them

[Anonymous No.3204541]

>>3204537

[Anonymous No.3204618]

>>3204470
drew this up while watching garbage - dunno if I'm going to continue with it or not though.

[Anonymous No.3204626]

>https://www.mediafire.com/file/xg4gn24k3372rpg/0%20-%20Drawing%20Fundamentals%20Phase%20I.zip

This is the first Watts Atelier course, videos and pdfs included. Do it and post results in thread and I'll keep uploading and posting the course in future beg threads.

Work hard, /beg/!

[Anonymous No.3204628]

>>3204626
I don't even know who that guy is but I'll try any free shit people post here.

Also, has anyone here actually bought any of the books that were provided for free in the stickies? Thinking of getting Hampton and Scott Robertson.

[Anonymous No.3204630]

>>3204628
No. No one has ever bought any of the books suggested in the sticky.

[Anonymous No.3204635]

>>3204626
>1.4 GB

[Anonymous No.3204636]

>>3204635
The whole course is like 300 GB, buckle up kiddo.

[Anonymous No.3204638]

>>3204628
Download them first to check them out. You can find them easily on the artbook thread.

[Anonymous No.3204639]

>>3204636
the fuck is it even on? the basic recommended beginner books are pretty much all you need for grinding.

[Anonymous No.3204641]

>>3204639
you could just google the course, anon

[Anonymous No.3204645]

>>3204641
im lazy

[Anonymous No.3204656]

>>3204626
>finish download
>open up the video about using your arm
>"Now when I draw ovals, what I don't want to see is the oval looking THICC"
kekekekeke

[Anonymous No.3204695]

anyone else here draw like a 10 year old?

[Anonymous No.3204700]

>>3204695
More like drawing for 10 years with no gains and being old myself.

[Anonymous No.3204708]

>>3204442
Hi Tyler

[Anonymous No.3204739]

Can i leave /beg now?

[Anonymous No.3204744]

>>3204739
Ask /alt/.

[Anonymous No.3204748]

>>3204739
did the animu get punched in the face? looks like its caved in

[Anonymous No.3204775]

What the HECK am I supposed to draw right now? A HECKING head? A HECKING body? Tell me right the HECK now because everything I see is too HECKING complex.

[Anonymous No.3204776]

>>3204136

[Anonymous No.3204777]

>>3204775
May I suggest doing some gesture drawing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy1rwangC3k

[Anonymous No.3204779]

>>3204775
Post work.

[Anonymous No.3204783]

>>3204779
I can't because I don't know what to HECKING DRAW.

[Anonymous No.3204828]

>>3204739

Yes. /beg/ is for fundamentals if you don't care about that then leave.

[Anonymous No.3204878]

>>3204783
https://www.quickposes.com/en/gestures/timed
https://sketchfab.com/alexdubnoff/collections/classic-busts
think of this whenever you ask yourself that question again

[Anonymous No.3204911]

>>3204775
If you feel something is too complex to draw, that means you need more practice with it, which means you should be drawing it more. So yeah, do some head and body drawings.

[Anonymous No.3204915]

After a bit of sketching I'm starting to learn shading. Still a beginner obviously, but do you have any tips, or good resources to help me improve?

[Anonymous No.3204926]

>>3204915
Do you have a ball and a lamp?

[Anonymous No.3204938]

>>3204926
I honestly dont. No lamps, and no toys really. I could probably improvise something though.

[Anonymous No.3205030]

Oh fuck
I don't know what to do

How the fuck do I color rooms?
All i've been doing is adding shading to base colors and then blending them
But it looks awful
What the fuck

[Anonymous No.3205033]

>>3205030
only the lamp looks shit atm, i dont see whats the issue here

[Anonymous No.3205039]

>>3205033
It looks fucking stupid dude
How do I mix my shading so that it doesn't stand out so much

[Anonymous No.3205045]

>>3205030
I don't know shit about shading, but I think you should define your light sources and pump your shadow values accordingly. The floor and the bed shouldn't have the light so evenly spread. Also, the bed shouldn't be so square, fix the edges and convey its roundness through shading.

[Anonymous No.3205046]

I tried grid technique

[Anonymous No.3205053]

>>3205046
Symbol gridding? Is that a new technique?

[Anonymous No.3205062]

>>3204159
Looks good. Probably better if you inked it.

[Anonymous No.3205086]

>>3205030
learn about color bleeding, ambient occlusion, soft reflections, the Fresnel effect, add some texture, and if you want something realistic drop the thick lines

[Anonymous No.3205088]

>>3205086
This is helpful
Thank you

[Anonymous No.3205089]

>>3204138

>http://drawabox.com

>Controversial yet helpful introductory course on the fundamentals of drawing with a focus on understanding the concept of form and thinking in a 3-dimensional mindset while you draw.

>controversial

Can someone explain to me why it's thought of in that way? it's essentially just a bunch of basic art drills. is the owner a dick or is anon just salty?

[Anonymous No.3205095]

>>3205089
No one who has taken draw a box has ever gone on to do something successful

That's a fact
That's real life

[Anonymous No.3205106]

>>3204413
Thanks for the tips! I tried to make 2 distinct vanishing points, idk if it works that way

[Anonymous No.3205115]

Idk what i did but i did it
Any thoughts ? Especially about the whale, tell me what do you think is wrong (or right ?) about it pls

[Anonymous No.3205116]

Im not sure how to phrase this.

How many "shades" would be good for a grey scale palette.

im praticing value with a grey palette with about 9 shades. But im not sure if i should add more or subtract from it.

[Anonymous No.3205118]

this is actually a lot of fun. i love it when practice doesn't feel like chore

[Anonymous No.3205152]

>>3205095
So... some people don't like going through drills I take it and so they shit on it then? this answer isnt very helpful desu.

[Anonymous No.3205169]

>>3204193
Learning to socialize

[Anonymous No.3205262]

Currently training to draw heads using Loomis's method. I feel like my faces look flat and samey, but I don't understand why. Any tips?

[Anonymous No.3205272]

>>3204618
My suggestions. Lost some of the pose, but you get the idea. Try lightly drawing cross contour times over the forms themselves to help preserve the volumes.

[Anonymous No.3205278]

>>3205089

Go to resource thread and find dynamic bible. Everything from drawabox is taken from it. Also Dynamic Bible is made by Peter Han. A good and successful artist unlike the one who started drawabox.

At first drawabox gave free crits which is a very valuable thing but the owner decide to only give it to those who pay his patreon. So, Now you only get crits from other beginners on the reddit thread.

And if you look at their reddit threads. There are no artwork made by those who finished the exercises. Not a single one.

Peter Han also have video class

https://2d.cgmasteracademy.com/peter-han-bio.html

There's a demo on there. If you can find the downloads for it. Please share it.

IF you want further convincing. Look at the owner of drawabox artwork.

http://irshadkarim.com

Then look at Peter Han

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzBmmU24ssg

https://www.artstation.com/peterhanstyle

https://www.instagram.com/peterhanstyle/?hl=en

[Anonymous No.3205290]

>>3204417
Is this Ed Harris?

[Anonymous No.3205293]

>>3204739
You can leave as soon as you stop drawing anime.

[Anonymous No.3205294]

this is a thumbnail that I choose for a ilustration

[Anonymous No.3205299]

>>3205278

oh wow its the same exercises. I chose Peter.

Now i want to paint my wall.

[Anonymous No.3205310]

>>3205278
That the program is a ripoff of Han's classes hasn't been hidden. The thing is that the website is an exact copy of his classes, but for free.

To see how Han's classes are organized, the guy who made drawabox posted his sketchbook from when he attended Han's dynamic course, and as you can see, the program is mostly the same from the one in the web.
Here is the sketchbook: https://imgur.com/a/EmdtF

Now, drawabox is based on very basic fundamentals, even if the founder's art isn't that good, it doesn't really prove anything of the lesson's value. It's just an introductory course, and the founder even took away the anatomy part because he acknowledged that he wasn't proficient enough to teach that.

[Anonymous No.3205322]

What's wrong with drawabox?

[Anonymous No.3205329]

>>3205322
It = ISIS

[Anonymous No.3205393]

>>3205322
drawanisis = box

[Anonymous No.3205407]

>>3205310

I just spend hours comparing the two. It's incomplete and half assed. You can get Peter Han book in the resource thread. And there are place to get his videos if you know how to search for it.

Now, before or IF you're going get all self righteous about how we are thieves. Keep it to yourself. Not everyone have it easy in life.

In fact once I get good enough I would give back by buying and promoting the stuff that helped me along the way.

[Anonymous No.3205434]

>>3205407
On the contrary, anon. If I was abiding for drawabox was precisely because it didn't cost anything, even if we were stealing. I'll get Han's book too, thanks.

[Anonymous No.3205441]

>>3205272
still wrong the shoulders are bad. stop doing redlines

[Anonymous No.3205450]

>>3204776
Here's a tip anon: Try to avoid sketching in black with a hard edge brush. Always have some texture or make it lighter in value like gray or a color like red. If you draw all the time with black on a white canvas all the time it will strain your eyes and the sketches won't look too good the way you're doing it there. You can always put in black lineart later but starting out with something softer on the eyes lends itself to easier sketching.

[Anonymous No.3205459]

>>3205441
Butthurt anon is butthurt.

[Anonymous No.3205466]

>>3205459

He's right though. The trapezius and neck are extremely small.

[Anonymous No.3205486]

>>3204618
My suggestion, try doing the pose yourself and get someone else (or a tripod and set the camera to shoot when you say "cheese") to take a photo of you doing the pose. Ideally you want to be in your underwear or tight clothing so that you can see the anatomy but in this one that shouldn't be too necessary. The thing with figure drawing is that you learn by drawing it from life and photos of real people hundreds of times so that you can build up your visual library of how the body flows and reacts to poses. Only until you have practiced a certain pose several times should you attempt it from imagination.

[Anonymous No.3205487]

>>3205272
Im the original artist, and completely disagree with this red(blu)line. IMO like you said you lost some (all) of the pose and made it really stiff and boring looking.

[Anonymous No.3205489]

>>3205486
This was made with a photo reference anon.

[Anonymous No.3205494]

>>3205486
But did you actually do the pose? Or did you get someone else to? I know you drew it while watching some anime but actually doing the pose yourself on a chair or something will help you a lot trust me

[Anonymous No.3205517]

wip

[Anonymous No.3205527]

>>3205517
if the ears were any higher they would be forced into a methadone clinic

[Anonymous No.3205529]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TJKQI1pDUU ;

[Anonymous No.3205533]

Random question.
Is there any places online to just draw with random strangers and have fun doing stupid shit?

I've gotten burnt out but I don't want to just stop drawing and atrophy. I figured it might be fun to just doodle with strangers.

[Anonymous No.3205534]

>>3205529
If you keep doing this in random threads I'm going to start reporting you for shilling. Stop.

[Anonymous No.3205536]

>>3205534
i already do

just report it and move on

[Anonymous No.3205538]

>>3205262
You got the gist of where everything goes down, but what you really need to look at next is the muscle tissue and the fat that surrounds the face. Imagine it like play dough and you're just manipulating it they way you want.

[Anonymous No.3205539]

>>3205534
>not reporting it already

[Anonymous No.3205541]

>>3205290

That's who it was supposed to be...

-

Using my favorite sketch brush again...

[Anonymous No.3205548]

How good am I? Am I terrible? I just started taking my drawing seriously and this was a sketch I made looking at a reference.

[Anonymous No.3205556]

>>3205527

kek

[Anonymous No.3205558]

>>3205548
Next time sharpen the pencil so it looks better in frame.

[Anonymous No.3205562]

>>3205558
that has nothing to do with my drawing :(

[Anonymous No.3205587]

Is it better to practice with Painter or Photoshop in the long run if I just wanna make anime fanart?

it looks to me like a lot of the asian artists on Pixiv seem to prefer Painter.

The brushes behave entirely different than in Photoshop too.

[Anonymous No.3205597]

If drawing with references, would a single large monitor or separate monitor be better to look at it from? Pic related is my current setup, and I don't care much for overlaying references on the drawing

[Anonymous No.3205603]

>>3205548
like med /beg/
Don't go over lines a million times unless you want to emphasize that line a little. Even then, make sure you don't diverge from original line you placed.
Maybe it would help to be less heavy-handed as well.

[Anonymous No.3205609]

>>3205597
https://www.pureref.com/index.php

[Anonymous No.3205611]

Took a long break and drew the bottom two and finished the top right. I was drawing way to small for the detailing I wanted to do. I need to start studying some textures and take into consideration in advance of these types of things, I did not know how to do the shading on the boots at all and kinda winged it at that stage. Also I was working way too small to be able to shade all the creases and folds on the cloth. I definitely need to think about this to determine what I am going to draw. a 0.1mm pen is the smallest I have and it did not suffice.

I am definitely speeding up production of the construction and that makes me happy, I've started to diverge a little from a full 1:1 copy as I don't see the point of doing that if I'm not going to go all the way with shading and texture anyways. So I am going more for a very slight stylization just so things don't look thick and a bit off and that usually makes me a bit happy so whatever.

Anyways, I ask for critiques. I should focus on some cuter stylization of the face for these super small works as well. I also ultimately just need to break out of this "work small" bubble I'm stuck in.

[Anonymous No.3205612]

>>3205603
Thanks man, I'll keep that in mind next time I practice

[Anonymous No.3205615]

>>3205587
Purely preference

[Anonymous No.3205628]

>>3205611
This guy over here, let me tell ya...
> I should focus on some cuter stylization of the face for these super small works as well. I also ultimately just need to break out of this "work small" bubble I'm stuck in.
No, actually what you need to do is learn construction, proportion and anatomy. If you claim to be a beginner (which you imply by posting here) you should focus on the basics you clearly don't master instead of hiding behind a concern over the fucking scale of the study or thickness of the pen.

[Anonymous No.3205632]

>>3204628
I paid for Perspective Made Easy. Waste of cash. Perspective is pretty straightforward, naturally; and it can often be freestyled without anybody discovering.

[Anonymous No.3205636]

>>3204739
Animu is advanced symbol drawing. You went the complete wrong way. /ic/ will never love you for that.

[Anonymous No.3205637]

why am i so fucking bad at this
i try to add a blindfold and it just fucks everything up
did i even do a single thing right

[Anonymous No.3205638]

>>3205636
>Animu is advanced symbol drawing.
God damn it, that's it! Now I know why I hate it so much. Thanks, seriously.

[Anonymous No.3205639]

>>3205628
I write the posts that I do as a form of introspection to think about what I've done and to tell people my thought process. It isn't a form of cockiness or anything.

Thank you for taking the time to read and offer critical advice though, I want to know if my way of thinking is wrong or if it can be improved upon.

[Anonymous No.3205645]

>>3205637
fucking lay off the pressure on the pencil you dingus. are you trying to draw or engrave? jesus

[Anonymous No.3205647]

>Sketch starts well
>slowly derails into a train wreck
Would the normies notice that is not very good?

[Anonymous No.3205648]

>>3205637
I think it's because a normal blindfold wouldn't work on a head shaped like that or something? Maybe try something like pic related

[Anonymous No.3205652]

>>3205647
Sera que no saben que hay algo malo pero ellos pueden sentir que hay algo malo con tu trabajo,

[Anonymous No.3205655]

>>3205637
>Line art is bad
>No folding or wrinkles
>No construction of any kind
>No knowledge of animal head shape
F-

Try completing at least a drawing course or one drawing book before attempting stuff like that.

no offense tho

[Anonymous No.3205656]

How do I approach the eye?

[Anonymous No.3205659]

>>3205652
But the normies have no trained eye, do you really think they'll notice?

[Anonymous No.3205660]

>>3205655
i mean look at his art

i don't think he cares much

[Anonymous No.3205661]

>>3205656
spoopy

but i like it

[Anonymous No.3205664]

>>3205659
>But the normies have no trained eye, do you really think they'll notice?

Like I said, they'll feel that it isn't correct, or it isn't masterful. You can get away with it sure, but that's only true for porn and people who glance at works for 2-3 seconds.

[Anonymous No.3205665]

last paint, what you think?

[Anonymous No.3205668]

/ic/ what next?

[Anonymous No.3205671]

>>3205656
Quit while you're ahead.

[Anonymous No.3205672]

>>3205664

[Anonymous No.3205673]

>>3205639
I have no idea of how long you've been practicing, but detailed and misplaced focus upon format or style over actual content sounds like a way to weasel out of dealing with the glaring flaws. We all do it from time to time:
>"The reason why my art is trash is [insert anything other than 'I'm not disciplined' here]".
Judging by your image, you are at least somewhat aware of constructive drawing and human proportion, but it does no good because you seem to rush through your studies at warp speed, filling the page with busywork (using a ruler to make a head meter instead of eyeballing it is a crazy waste of time and effort, especially for the kind of style you seem to be going for) and putting down no actual relevant information.
I don't know how much time you spend on each pose study but my only real recommendation is allowing yourself to spend at least double that time and have a consistent plan. Also, I'd forget about details for a while and work with the purest most basic 3D primitives.

[Anonymous No.3205674]

>>3205668
read the sticky

[Anonymous No.3205677]

>>3205674
i guess you don't see my Loomis lines. Been thur done that. I guess it's back to le proko, then.

[Anonymous No.3205682]

>>3205656
Carefully. Also, nice hatching!

[Anonymous No.3205699]

It hurts to live.

[Anonymous No.3205701]

>it's been taking me 3 months to do draw a box lesson 1
>keep redoing exercises until they don't look like dog shit
>trying to grasp all the concepts the guy is explaining in the lesson
For anyone doing drawabox, fucking check out this sick cunt's lesson 1.

https://imgur.com/a/BbiDa

[Anonymous No.3205712]

>>3205701
>it's been taking me 3 months to do draw a box lesson 1

This is why drawabox is a meme trap. You could have been actually good at something by now

[Anonymous No.3205715]

>>3205701
You should continue with the lessons while repeating the straights and elipses everyday. Not that yours are that bad, it's just what everyone, including me, should do. If you felt you didn't quite get the boxes, you should've done the 250 challenge instead of trying to attempt the last exercises again.

[Anonymous No.3205717]

>>3205712
>>3205715
I'm going to just give one last good attempt at whatever exercises I felt like I did a bad job on and move onto lesson 2 alongside the 250 box challenge.

Hoping I can start a path for my own studies instead of just burning myself out with unrealistic standards.

[Anonymous No.3205721]

>tfw the human body turns me on and my life is 85% looking at naked bodies
>tfw can't masturbate cuz dick is hurt
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[Anonymous No.3205735]

>>3204626
Thanks heaps for this anon. Starting tonight, I'll probably have something to share tomorrow or the next day

[Anonymous No.3205798]

>>3205538
OK thanks

[Anonymous No.3205815]

Is this a meme?

[Anonymous No.3205821]

>>3205815
looks like a waste of time

[Anonymous No.3205822]

>>3205815
look at the title

you have your answer

[Anonymous No.3205831]

>>3205701
>months
Dude why

I'm going to say this one last time: you're meant to do line exercise 10 to 15 minutes a day. That's it, it's supposed to be your warmup, not the sole thing you draw till everything looks perfect. Even professionals have trouble drawing freehand ellipses, it's not an issue. Draw the things you want to draw because drawing only lines will get you nowhere. You're not the first person with this problem, I've seen several /beg/s mention they've been grinding the same drawabox concepts for hours each day. DON'T. Make the shit you want to make and improve yourself with each piece.

[Anonymous No.3205845]

would it look odd if i added some kind of red/pink-ish highlight to this?

also would like some general feedback on this even thought im not halfway

[Anonymous No.3205860]

You didnt specify drawing so i'm gonna dump this here. I'm stuck with this photoshop, it doesnt look good enough to me but what can I change for fucks sake??1

[Anonymous No.3205862]

>>3205860
>>>/gd/

[Anonymous No.3205864]

I'm working on getting more confident with my drawing and started sketching straight with a pen. It's harder than I thought

[Anonymous No.3205868]

First try hard thing I've drawn in at least 10 years...Do you think I should keep trying or just say fuck it?

[Anonymous No.3205881]

>>3205701
>https://imgur.com/a/BbiDa
Useful. Is there more?

[Anonymous No.3205884]

>>3205868
Don't know. Should you?

[Anonymous No.3205897]

I want to start getting into drawing, but I'm a little intimidated by all of the materials out there in the sticky. Does anyone have any recommendations for books/exercises that I should focus on first?

[Anonymous No.3205900]

>>3205897
People tend to recommend starting with Fun with a Pencil, by Loomis (basic head and body construction), and the lessons at drawabox.com (line control, perspective and form).

[Anonymous No.3205902]

>>3205900
Thank you very much, I will look into them.

[Anonymous No.3205918]

>>3205897
When I first started, I was going through both Perspective Made Easy and the Vilppu Drawing Manual, two very beginner friendly books that both teach good fundamentals. The Vilppu book in particular was a godsend for me, there are sections he devotes to just drawing basic forms like playdough, so that he can "mold" whatever he wants. When you read this in conjunction with a perspective manual, you really start to feel like you can draw anything, which was a really empowering and fun feeling.
If you're not feeling those books, you can never go wrong with Keys to Drawing

[Anonymous No.3205936]

>>3205636
*shit animu is advanced symbol drawing and these people will never make it

it's not that it doesn't exist it's just not that often you find it

[Anonymous No.3205937]

>>3205712
Lesson 1 was easy, I've gone through all of lesson 2 now but I want to redo the "rotated boxes" thing, that shit was difficult and actually pretty fun

[Anonymous No.3205938]

>>3205487
You're welcome to disagree. Point was to think in volumes. If you think your figure is somehow better because of the pose, I think you're doing yourself a disservice.

[Anonymous No.3205951]

>>3205918
What about "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain"

[Anonymous No.3205952]

>>3205951
drawing on the right side of the brain has way too much pseudoscience bullshit and it feels like the author was a hippy on weed sometimes

keys to drawing is likely a better intro course

[Anonymous No.3205953]

>>3205951
Not everyone's cup of tea.

[Anonymous No.3205956]

Vilppu says that he encourages people to take up different mediums and tools. It sounds fun, especially when im doing figure drawing, but what types of tools would fit for a beginner? Tools I regularly use are ball point pens, gel tip pens, and most used is a pencil (8b graphite pencil). Is there anything out of that zone that I should try or should I just stick to what I already have?

[Anonymous No.3205957]

To learn basic anatomy, proportions and general posing, which of these three would you recommend: Vilppu's Drawing Manual, Hampton's Figure Drawing, or Loomis' Figure Drawing?
I'm currently doing the mannequins from Fun with a Pencil but, due to the fact that they're so simplified it isn't helping at correcting my anatomical mistakes (leg-hips connection, etc)

[Anonymous No.3205968]

>>3205957
I've noticed a lot of people just try out all of the methods to see which ones click with them the best.

[Anonymous No.3205969]

How is this looking

[Anonymous No.3205973]

>>3205956
You are overthinking this my dude, just work with what you're comfortable with

>>3205957
lol so the funny thing is, Hampton's (arguably) the best at teaching anatomy, Loomis is the best for teaching proportions, and Vilppu is the best at general posing

[Anonymous No.3205978]

>>3205665
anyone?

[Anonymous No.3205979]

>>3205973
I thought I could use just one, but at least now I know I won't be wasting my time with any of them. Thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.3205980]

Hows this look? It started as a moon, but
it ended up becoming this.

[Anonymous No.3205981]

>>3205665
I'd start with a more cohesive color palette because this is... a lot.

[Anonymous No.3205985]

>>3205979
>how to trigger /ic/ with just one post
Joking aside, your time would be well spent studying them

[Anonymous No.3205988]

>>3205952
>>3205953
Oh, I started it today (finished the exercises of the first chapter an hour before I asked).
The pseudoscience and plebism really reeks, I agree but it doesn't seem bad enough to stop it.
I better go through Keys of Drawing alongside.

[Anonymous No.3205989]

I'm trying to draw without resting my hand on the tablet. shit's hard, man

[Anonymous No.3205993]

Can i get some advice on how i can make my work not look shit?

[Anonymous No.3205994]

Should I start with a pencil and paper or my tablet (Wacom Intuous Art)? Pencil and paper has just been frustrating for me.

[Anonymous No.3205995]

>>3205994
Which are you more comfortable with? Pick the medium you prefer then just draw and keep practicing.

[Anonymous No.3205996]

>>3205994
You're clearly fishing for a green light to use the tablet. Fucking just do whatever makes you draw.

[Anonymous No.3206000]

>>3205994
Ink pen so you can be confident with your lines. (basically the goal of inktober)
Or just do the medium you most enjoy comfortably right now, but do some drawings on a sketchbook from time to time.

[Anonymous No.3206001]

[Anonymous No.3206005]

>>3204136
reposting this from the last thread because I never got an answer.
Where can I find a more in depth explanation for gesture drawing?
I feel like I'm missing something in Proko's lessons he describes it as just drawing the basic idea of the pose but than busts out some detailed profile of the pose meanwhile my gestures look like this.
I feel like I am either putting too much detail into my gestures and wasting time or missing key anatomical detail or possibly both, but it doesn't seem as good as prokos gestures.
>inb4 graph paper

[Anonymous No.3206006]

>>3206005

[Anonymous No.3206014]

>>3205993
This is so stylized that it doesn't really belong in this thread.

For what it's worth, I like what you're doing here, but I can see why you'd be unhappy with this in particular because it's kind of boring. I don't know, try making something that excites you and see how you feel about it then

[Anonymous No.3206016]

>>3206014
Thank you for the advice, but any idea on where i could go?

[Anonymous No.3206017]

>>3205993
Post more of your work pls

[Anonymous No.3206020]

>>3206016

>>3202013
The alternative art/stylization general

[Anonymous No.3206023]

>>3206020
Thanks for the help dude.

[Anonymous No.3206026]

>>3206005
>>3206006
Read First chapter of Michael Hamptons book.

[Anonymous No.3206033]

안녕
좋은?

[Anonymous No.3206037]

>>3206005
either this >>3206026 or Nicolaides.

[Anonymous No.3206039]

>>3205980
Migi?

[Anonymous No.3206048]

>>3206033
cum isn't bright laser blue dude

[Anonymous No.3206051]

>>3206039

No, but it looks like him. I had olbina from ahh monsters in mind while working on it.

[Anonymous No.3206053]

>>3206033
hot

[Anonymous No.3206056]

>>3206048
Thanks.. I'll work on that.

[Anonymous No.3206069]

Im drawing wangs, what am i doing with my life.

[Anonymous No.3206074]

>>3206069
>Do you get a burning sensation while urinating? Talk to your doctor about...

[Anonymous No.3206075]

>>3206069
Flamethrower dick.
Use a hard round brush, air brush is cheap.

[Anonymous No.3206077]

>>3204628
good attitude, gonna make it
>>3204656
show me your THICC ovals anon
>>3205735
looking forward to it, friendo

[Anonymous No.3206079]

>>3206074
lol

>>3206075
Good call, thanks.

[Anonymous No.3206081]

>>3206074
kek

[Anonymous No.3206094]

No Wonder why I'm in beg. Can't make beautiful lines. After a self critic I saw that when drawing with pencil I was making a lot of useless lines everywhere. I noticed I could draw what I wanted but it was so dirty.
So I tried this.
I made a lot of this.
Can't do it yet. But won't give up. I lock my wrist and use shoulder with the elbow.

[Anonymous No.3206104]

[Anonymous No.3206109]

[Anonymous No.3206111]

>>3206094
Only draw one line on the same space. I see you're doing a lot of lines to connect the dots. That's a big no no (at least according to Scott Robertson's book) Only do one line and then draw the next line below it even if the line is shitty move on.

I've been filling copy papers with the line exercise only for the past couple of days though so I might be wrong. Also my lines aren't that good yet especially the vertical ones, but I'm improving slowly

[Anonymous No.3206115]

>>3206109
What a weird looking couch. Also, good work on the feet and calves.

[Anonymous No.3206116]

>>3206094
slow down a bit your lines are feathering hard

also make sure you stop the pen, don't just lift it when you're close enough

[Anonymous No.3206119]

>>3206116
*as in stop the pen on the dot, then lift. You're way overshooting and missing.

[Anonymous No.3206120]

>>3206111
No. There are different versions of the same exercises. It's good to practice consistency and be able to make the same line at once. However, neither of you are very good at drawing lines.

Why are you so rushed? Doing the same thing poorly 1000 times isn't going to make you better. Experiment with drawing the lines away from you, toward you, whatever direction is most comfortable to draw with your shoulder or elbow to draw a long, straight, confident line. Grinding poorly is bad, make efficient use of your practice and you won't have to do it 1000 times to get better.

[Anonymous No.3206121]

>>3206111
Thank you for the suggestion.
I was doing Peter Han Dynamic bible exercise. The exercise is about made a straight line and draw on top 8 times with accuracy. Just for the exercise. While sketching yes, only one single clean line.

https://youtu.be/wgDNDOKnArk 7:30

[Anonymous No.3206125]

>>3206116
Got it.

[Anonymous No.3206126]

>>3206119
Got it anon. I will upload next exercises doing what everyone told me.

[Anonymous No.3206138]

>>3206120
>Experiment with drawing the lines away from you, toward you, whatever direction
Yes this is what I'm doing, in fact most of my lines in that page are from an uncomfortable directions which is from left to right for horizontal, and from down to up for vertical, hence why they are wobbly. I just want to be more comfortable with every direction without needing to rotate the paper a lot. I know Scott mentioned that you only need to draw a straight line from one direction and the rest is a matter of rotating the paper, but I feel it's something that I want to develop

[Anonymous No.3206141]

>>3206138
>I just want to be more comfortable with every direction without needing to rotate the paper a lot.
>I feel it's something that I want to develop
That's a literal waste of time.

[Anonymous No.3206143]

>>3206141
There are times when you won't be able to rotate a paper though - painting on a canvas+easel, on a wall, on a scroll, etc. It's not a useless talent.

As long as you can do just straight horizontal and vertical lines though, you should be mostly fine.

[Anonymous No.3206145]

>>3206141
Post your work

[Anonymous No.3206151]

>>3206143
Also useful for having a wide range of brushwork when painting

[Anonymous No.3206154]

>>3206145
He's right though. Even Robertson recommends knowing how do draw a good line from one angle.

I check these threads every once in a while and there's always so many weird assumptions like always drawing from the shoulder or grinding the same circle sheet. It's making me sad.

[Anonymous No.3206155]

>>3206143
>>3206151
Worry about it when you get there and you're working with that medium. Right now, learn to draw straight lines with a pen/pencil and paper.

[Anonymous No.3206160]

This is harder than I thought. I feel like already drew a lot all the day. So this is the correct way to practice. This is how pros warm up? hell.

[Anonymous No.3206161]

>>3205864
I suggest you try a few different pen brands. My favorite is bic ball Point pens. It looks like this was done with a felt tip or gel. Ball Point allow you to draw in very controlled shades of grey / color and being able to draw a little bit lighter at dmfirst is certainly more forgiving then black! I’m super big into pen and ink artists. Add me on insta and I will add you back to watch your progression and critique your work @PrettyTuffDoggo

[Anonymous No.3206163]

>>3206160
start small and work your way up. getting to 6-8 inch long straight lines takes training your arm and muscle. try holding your writing utensil more vertical and ghost over the line before you start going. speed control is very important. too fast and you go everywhere, too slow and it's squiggly.

[Anonymous No.3206164]

feeling pretty good.

[Anonymous No.3206167]

>>3206163
Got it.

[Anonymous No.3206181]

>>3206120
>Experiment with drawing the lines away from you, toward you, whatever direction
are you trying to make me draw anuses?

[Anonymous No.3206182]

>>3204287
No, we see the improvement, but even for this board...well...what's up with the balls?

[Anonymous No.3206199]

>>3206075
Better?

[Anonymous No.3206206]

>>3206199
Here https://www.imagefap.com/pictures/7165783/Squirting-Cocks--Flying-Cum

[Anonymous No.3206240]

>>3204159
Looks pretty interesting and well executed in general but >>3204413 is entirely correct in pointing out how that road doesn't appear to be heading into the same vanishing point. It might have to do with how heavy the line is in the horizon? Also, scan that shit.

[Anonymous No.3206243]

>>3206206
Reference will help me.

[Anonymous No.3206246]

>>3204413
not everything vanishes into the same point desu

[Anonymous No.3206251]

>>3206240
Thanks ! Yeah sorry for the quality the initial photo was 6mb, and since i drawn this on a big sheet, i can't really scan it.
The horizon line appears quite thick because i made some small mountains in a distance i guess. Anyway im gonna post the result one of these days when i finish it

[Anonymous No.3206258]

>>3206094

I always imagine an airplane landing then fly off again when doing this practice. Also try to find that speed you're comfortable with.

Too slow it's wobbly, too fast you lose control. Try to find that mid point.

[Anonymous No.3206260]

my one by wacom arrived yesterday. I can see the pen holder damaging the pen in the long run

[Anonymous No.3206261]

>>3206246

It's okay if he do it consciously and have good grasp on perspective. but in this case that don't matter. He doesn't really know that it's off.

[Anonymous No.3206275]

how am I supposed to hold a pen?

[Anonymous No.3206277]

>>3206275
With your hand.

[Anonymous No.3206278]

>>3204170
he's known as a writer for blizzard mainly. noone rly cares about his art.

[Anonymous No.3206281]

>>3204193
Creating a pattern to insert into an ANS synthesizer that will actually make a nice sound
Neurosurgery

[Anonymous No.3206282]

>>3206261
In fact , maybe i don't have a good grasp on perspective but u can assure you that it's made on purpose.

[Anonymous No.3206295]

I tried to do like Sakimichan.
It's actually not that hard.

[Anonymous No.3206314]

imagination is hard

[Anonymous No.3206337]

Ball Point Pen. I want to add color to the background but I’m not sure what. Maybe blue. It’s supposed to be a library.

[Anonymous No.3206363]

One of my quickposes.com results. I drew the outline of each sketch in 120 seconds in pen. I came back after I was done with the excercise and added the shading / thickened lines.

[Anonymous No.3206367]

>>3206363
I think the quick poses are for gesture drawing no outline drawing. But I’m beg so...

[Anonymous No.3206384]

Exercise #4

[Anonymous No.3206397]

>>3206314
yeah imagination is hard.

[Anonymous No.3206403]

>>3206397

The fuck is this from?

[Anonymous No.3206405]

>>3206397
Thats not candy

[Anonymous No.3206406]

>>3206403
>
Likes like some ito junji stuff. The style isn't his though.

[Anonymous No.3206410]

>>3206397
i meant drawing from imagination xD

[Anonymous No.3206414]

>>3206403
Shintaro Kago if I'm not mistaken.

[Anonymous No.3206440]

>>3206206
Better?

[Anonymous No.3206450]

>>3206440
Better, with room for improvement.

[Anonymous No.3206452]

>>3206337
he seems to be kinda weird in proportions, his head doesnt feel round it feels like a rectangle or something, his left elbow and hand are pretty weird, overall the drawing is a bit iffy but the rendering is really fucking good made me hard, if you spent more time on the sketch/drawing part it would've been great

[Anonymous No.3206455]

>>3206275
closer to vertical, extreme angles are bad for ink flow

[Anonymous No.3206456]

>>3206403
Almost certainly Shintaro Kago's style. Guy likes his head explosions.

...and shit. Lots of shit.

[Anonymous No.3206458]

>>3206450
Ill take it.

That girls face was too above my level im gonna go back to simpler forms and work my way up to faces.

[Anonymous No.3206460]

>>3206458
May I suggest Bridgman for that?

[Anonymous No.3206481]

>>3206460
Is that a book? I cant remember all the names.

[Anonymous No.3206487]

>>3206481
Constructive Anatomy, by George Bridgman. I think it is in the public domain. It offers a nice progression from simple shapes to detailed anatomy. Better than Loomis for learning figure sketching.

[Anonymous No.3206499]

>>3205046
You probably know his cheekbone is fucked, i think his nose and mustache are way to dark which makes it not connect with his beard and gives his nostrils no depth. Hair looks cool, i like how you did steven generally as well.

[Anonymous No.3206503]

>>3205262
You've learned to draw the head as a rectangle, which gives you good 3 dimensionality, but makes your face od flat you need to curve it intro the rest of the face more seamlessly, and just suggest the different planes

[Anonymous No.3206507]

>>3206487
Nice Ill check it out thanks.

[Anonymous No.3206508]

>>3206363
your legs all look way to thin, especially on the muscly dude

[Anonymous No.3206516]

Today I studied form!, I went with a more eye-ball approach and used a few plumbing lines to find placement and a few measurements to figure out proportional sizes.

Started off cubic and slowly migrated over to more organic shapes, lots of trial and error along the way. I think tomorrow I will do more forms and also go over it with ink just to see how it looks as a more refined process. I also like the whole idea of putting the figure on a plane, I only did it once today because it felt slow, but I think in retrospect I might definitely want to do it more for figuring out form a bit better.

[Anonymous No.3206536]

Hampton recommends to draw the gesture first with wrapping lines then add over the gesture the forms. But I’m beg so.. my opinion is not valuable.

[Anonymous No.3206578]

>>3204136
I tried drawing a still life of a toy dinosaur but the image came out looking flat, I'm having a really hard time seeing values in real world objects, also the lighting was weird hence the multiple shadows.

[Anonymous No.3206614]

I tried my first figure drawing from imagination. I will go back to using references, I just wanted to see what I could do.

How can I make it less flat and fix the anatomy / proportion errors?

[Anonymous No.3206624]

>>3206614
the first main error I see is one of pose - without a chair, he's going to fall over backwards. Consider where the weight is placed and how it compares with the rest of the body - it should be somewhat balanced.

[Anonymous No.3206632]

>>3206199
Still pretty fuzzy.

[Anonymous No.3206654]

>>3206632
Better?

[Anonymous No.3206657]

>>3206654
We're getting there.

[Anonymous No.3206675]

>>3206672
>>3206672
>>3206672

>>3206672
>>3206672

>>3206672
>>3206672
>>3206672

[Anonymous No.3206712]

>>3206657
Better?

[Anonymous No.3207080]

Help /ic/ I think that all these cool colors are making the nude look very orangey and I need the background done in a few days per school. What do?

[Anonymous No.3207082]

>>3207080
A note for next time - you're supposed to do the background first.

As for the colors, mix some cooler colors into the shadows on the skin.

[Anonymous No.3207240]

>finish the first quarter of my 300 page sketch book
>theres already a divider in it because it is suppose to be a 4 subject cahier
>decide to do a big figure drawing
>spend just over an hour on it
>ends up absolutely horrible
>feel like ripping it out
>decide to date it and leave it

now i can always look back at it

[Anonymous No.3207364]

drawabox lesson 2 is kicking my ass

[Anonymous No.3207366]

>>3207364
*lesson 1 whoops

[Anonymous No.3207700]

I'm getting a laptop for college.
I want to use it to draw too (am beginner).
How many levels of pressure sensitvity do I actually need?

[Anonymous No.3207906]

>>3207700

Honestly, I'd say just do traditional for now and focus on your fundies, but if your REALLY want to do digital, then Wacoms most basic models work just fine, if a bit on the small side.

[Anonymous No.3208040]

Help /ic/

[Anonymous No.3208860]

>>3206516
Start using more gesture in your forms now.

[Anonymous No.3209049]

>>3204630
I bought some book by Harold Speed. It's pretty good.

[Anonymous No.3209092]

>>3204626
That was way more basic than I was expecting. Anyone have the other parts?

[Anonymous No.3209200]

I tried drawing some manga panels from jojo. I think it’s decent...

[Anonymous No.3209201]

>>3209200

[Anonymous No.3209204]

>>3209200
>>3209201

[Anonymous No.3209206]

>>3209200
>>3209201
>>3209204

[Anonymous No.3209207]

>>3209200
>>3209201
>>3209204
>>3209206

[Anonymous No.3209674]

>>3204193
I would say the eyes nose and lips look good if you visualise them without the rest. the hairs not bad but it needs more time spent on the rest.