/beg/ - THE BEGINNER THREAD

[Anonymous No.3189764]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the Drawthread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make someone proud.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:

#1)
>screenshot the image and post that instead

#2)
>change camera capture settings to something smaller

#3)
>send to computer and resize in MSPaint

→ →
There's a new (and cleaner) sticky in town! You can see it at:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

TRY TO BE MORE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.

PREVIOUS THREAD: >>3187366

[Anonymous No.3189765]

ESSENTIALS:

>>>/ic/thread/3023643
Links to many art books including as Keys to Drawing (Dodson), Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain (Edwards), Perspective Made Easy (Norling), Color and Light (Gurney), The Vilppu Drawing Manual (Vilppu) and How to Draw (Robertson).

>http://ctrlpaint.com
A website dedicated to understanding the basics and process of digital painting, based in Adobe Photoshop. Library of over 200 free videos.

>http://quickposes.com
Free pose library to practice drawing the human figure (as well as a portrait library). Draw at your own pace or set a timer for quick gesture drawings.

>https://www.youtube.com/user/onairvideo
Croquis Cafe - Timed model poses.

>http://drawabox.com
Controversial yet helpful introductory course on the fundamentals of drawing with a focus on understanding the concept of form and thinking in a 3-dimensional mindset while you draw.

>Your local life drawing class
Life drawing is an indispensable tool in your art career. Do not be intimidated based on your skill level - there will always be someone worse than you and someone better than you. Use this opportunity to meet new artists for learning, critique, and growth.

[Anonymous No.3189774]

little master studies. took me too long

[Anonymous No.3189779]

Day 8?

Noses :3

[Anonymous No.3189781]

wip

[Anonymous No.3189782]

looked in the archive but nothing about tools pops up in ctrl+f.

What is the best pen to use alongside watercolor? I wanna get into it. I bought a basic set of watercolor and gouache and I wanna try to utilize them cause I like the effects they give, but my pens are shit for it. I wanna draw/ink/erase/watercolor in that order. What's the brand of pen I should get for this?

[Anonymous No.3189785]

>>3189764
How many of the critiques given in this thread come from people that aren't also /beg/ tier?

[Anonymous No.3189788]

>>3189782
Micron

[Anonymous No.3189790]

>>3189785
close to none - you can tell when a majority of the critique is

>x looks off
>eyes too close. ear too big, mouth too low >loomis.

The people who actually know what they're doing don't care to help because they know that person they they could have spent 30 minutes writing a critique for in addition to a paintover will quit art in two months anyway because nobody has any concept of investment anymore.

[Anonymous No.3189793]

>>3189785
/beg/ is a useless containment thread that should be deleted.

[Anonymous No.3189796]

>>3189790
that's pretty much how I also figure it is after lurking here for a few months. I guess I'm better off stealing all the books and shit I could need and learning on my own for a year or two until I'm good enough to post in the other generals?

[Anonymous No.3189801]

>>3189793
>let's let shitters flood into the good threads

>>3189796
the better option is to find a community like sketchlab or something where you can get feedback, because you're going to need to find it one way or another.

[NoseBro No.3189821]

>>3189781
dm me some time :^)

[Anonymous No.3189823]

>>3189821
does your nose rival his

[Anonymous No.3189837]

>>3189801
>let's let shitters flood into the good threads

There are no good threads, everything aside from two or three other threads are shit.

[Anonymous No.3189838]

>>3189837
don't really know what you're trying to contribute because you offer no solutions

if you don't like it you can leave

[Anonymous No.3189839]

>>3189774
these are really good, whats your process?

[NoseBro No.3189841]

>>3189823
my nose is triangular and only 45% of his volume

[Anonymous No.3189855]

Plant in pot

[NoseBro No.3189858]

>>3189855
we get it, you're a stoner. fuck off.

[Anonymous No.3189859]

You guys are getting better every thread.

I gotta work harder when I wake up.

[Anonymous No.3189878]

Should I post all my /beg/ stuff on ArtStation or just proper pieces later down the line?

[NoseBro No.3189893]

>>3189878
just post it so you can show it to your mom. it really doesnt matter.

[Anonymous No.3189897]

>>3189635
Raius?

[Anonymous No.3189899]

alright im using krita but i just want to pan the canvas when i hold the first button on my wacom stylus and pan around with the pen. instead it does this dumb shit when it zooms in and out. whats the setting i need to change?

[Anonymous No.3189908]

>>3189899
Settings > config > canvas input > pan

[Anonymous No.3189922]

[Anonymous No.3189924]

[Anonymous No.3189940]

well, hi

[Anonymous No.3189950]

I'm getting VERY frustrated because I seemingly can't even draw what I see (in this case, a game case) in perspective correctly no matter what I do.

I'm sitting here at my desk, with my sketchbook, i have it sitting vertically. As I am sitting straight towards my desk, the game case is lying flat on the left side towards the back.
I draw that, making sure to get all of the angles/etc right. Checking with my pencil and whatnot. And it only looks right if I put my sketchbook far towards it/put it at the same distance/etc away. I know perspective is screwy but this just has my brain all mindfucked. How am I supposed to draw accurately/etc if everything keeps being screwy like this?
I don't have any pics because theres really no need for any.

[Anonymous No.3189958]

>>3189950
Are you trying to freehand it?

[Anonymous No.3189961]

>>3189950
You're just being autistic about accuracy.

[Anonymous No.3189963]

>>3189958

Yeah, I'm checking the angle with my pencil, and I try to transfer that to paper. I'm trying to work on a vertical surface as much as possible, even with my sketchbook, because drawing on a flat/table surface just distorts the hell out of things.

[Anonymous No.3189965]

>>3189785
Honestly? I'm not quite /beg/ but I still ask for advice in these threads and get very adequate responses. Sure, they may not come from people who are professionals, but at the very least they can offer a different perspective on issues, which is all that's really needed sometimes.

[Anonymous No.3189968]

I'm planning on drawing my own manga. What necessary tools do I need to buy ?
My only budget is 10$ - 20$

[Anonymous No.3189970]

>>3189968
Go to ikea and fill your pockets with free pencils.

[Anonymous No.3189976]

>>3189950

It takes time. Also being this emotional is going to do anything for you. I know that feeling that you're going anywhere but trust me. You and me and many others out there start the same way. It's frustrating but I can guarantee that things will click IF you keep on practicing.

Try to be calm and if you can't. Back the fuck away from drawing and do something else to relax.

Sucking is temporary.

Only if you don't quit.

[Anonymous No.3189977]

>>3189976

I've backed away a lot because of frustration like this lol.

My goal is to be able to draw realistic people, anatomy, etc. So I suffer through prokos horrific humor. And whatever recommended videos/tutorials in general there are. Namely because learning from books isn't really my style for whatever reason.

I just hate drawing something as I see it, making sure the angles are right and whatnot, and it still somehow ends up wrong.

[Anonymous No.3190002]

I do I stop turning cute girls into Methhead Grandmas?

[Anonymous No.3190028]

[Anonymous No.3190034]

I've never used mixer brushes + smudge tool brushes before but they're in the HGJ brush set and following tool conversion they all end up in the tool folder.

[Anonymous No.3190035]

>>3190034
*brushes folder

[Anonymous No.3190037]

>>3189764
Can we have some spooky pics to study?

[Anonymous No.3190038]

>>3190037

[Anonymous No.3190040]

>>3190002
use just the absolute necesary lines on the face(which btw its kinda big)

[Anonymous No.3190046]

>>3190037

I would search for it but some photos are too much spook for me... I need my sleep.

[Anonymous No.3190051]

>>3188617

[Anonymous No.3190054]

>>3190037

[Anonymous No.3190059]

>>3190002
delts/muscle not defined enough; left eye not close enough to nose. rhomboid/lower lats muscle are not defined properly )(too arched). original looks full of energy while yours look stiff is probably due to your figure's back is not s-curved/arched toward the back enough.

[Anonymous No.3190060]

[Anonymous No.3190063]

[Anonymous No.3190070]

>>3190038

[Anonymous No.3190071]

Anyone ever use this to make their own doll dummy? Is it okay? Or any better clay-like material that I can use to make my own doll dummy?

[Anonymous No.3190079]

>>3190037
Spooks!

[Anonymous No.3190083]

>>3190038
please tell me where i can get a simplified skull like this.

[Anonymous No.3190086]

Is this a good nose study?

[Anonymous No.3190087]

New to digital. How do I deal with this kind of aliasing when filling in my lineart with color?

[Anonymous No.3190090]

>>3190087
by making a new layer behind the line layer and coloring it in by hand.

[Anonymous No.3190094]

>>3190090
Ok. Is there really no other way, though? It's actually what I've been doing but it's kind of finicky and you can get an uneven appearance when you're using a semi-transparent brush (like the ink type one in the example).

[Anonymous No.3190095]

>>3190060
learn to block in values, gosh the pencil strokes look awful.

>>3190063
there's so many things wrong with this picture... I'm sorry but you have to go back to the fundamentals.

>>3190070
for round, smooth surfaces soft brushes would be more efficient to fill in the appropriate values. keep going, good!

>>3190086
if after a week you can't draw it accurately from imagination drop that method; though jf it works for you then good. i would recommend a more simple way since the simpler/abstractable in a few lines, the easier it will be for learning. be careful into not falling the trap of copying and not analyzing. keep going.

>>3190087
select > expand by 1-3 pixels, you can also use feather to smooth it out.

OR

double or triple your image dimensions then resize to the originsl filr dimensions, it'll clear out any anti aliaiskng issiues.

anyway, there's many ways to do it, have fun experimenting!

[Anonymous No.3190124]

>>3189577
please respond

[Anonymous No.3190130]

When did sycra start drawing

[Anonymous No.3190131]

>>3190095

[Anonymous No.3190132]

>>3190130
Age 2 or 3

[Anonymous No.3190137]

Critique appreciated

[Anonymous No.3190142]

Started a new series on my channel called "doodling with mesforum" slowly working on improving myself. Would love feedback

https://youtu.be/zjxcAaOQvjY

[Anonymous No.3190148]

i did it again you guys. my monthly portrait from imagination

[Anonymous No.3190151]

>>3190131

[Anonymous No.3190203]

havent really used colour before. clouds are hard

[Anonymous No.3190208]

Thoughts ? First ever completed sketch, i have been drawing for 1month

[Anonymous No.3190258]

>>3190095
There was an attempt. The ear came out nicely at least

[Anonymous No.3190267]

>>3190208
>finished, sketch

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/sketch

That aside, what's your endgame? To be honest you're hanging on the lower tier of /beg/. This sketch of yours doesn't demonstrate any hint of construction ability, perhaps it is time for you to learn that...

>>3190142
nice line quality; though your subject matter is not of my taste.

>>3190148
placement of features looks quite accurate but you are particularly having difficulty with lips. also, don't you hide the ears next time if you want to get good at drawing them; don't focus on hair and unveil the head form nakedly next time. hair is slopipdly done anyway.

>>3190203
for clouds, check out the japanese anime bg guide, section for clouds. your clouds are looking as random blobs, you have to place them in perspective. there are different types of clouds and you have to study them one by one in order to master them. they all have a definite form/characteristics and yours look... aimless?

[Anonymous No.3190288]

>>3190267
ah, thing is i painted the clouds from a photo. you're right though, guess i gotta figure out what im doing wrong

[Anonymous No.3190297]

>>3190203
How do I make amazing clouds like you? Colors are great.

[Anonymous No.3190302]

>>3190297
I couldn't give you advice about the actual clouds, I just like colours as you can see
Have a reference right next to your painting, paint on top of your reference to get as close to the right colour as possible. I always mix colours myself and layer them with lower opacity. If you have the right colours in the right places you're on the right track!
For more detail look up Robin Clonts on youtube. ^^

[Anonymous No.3190304]

doing more bargue drawings

[Anonymous No.3190314]

doing some more bargue drawings

[Anonymous No.3190323]

Trying to get back to drawing. This wip seems not so bad, but I can't think how to make the face.

[Anonymous No.3190332]

Art project. Taking some time but it's my second or third time using this dotted style I saw once before. Any ways of improvement you can see?

[Anonymous No.3190343]

>>3190323
there's a bit too much going on here. I see Zelda as a grim reaper with a tree arm with flowers and hearts. Maybe take one or two ideas and make them the focus.

[Anonymous No.3190369]

How do I make the eyes even looking at angles that aren't straight ahead.

[Anonymous No.3190393]

Hey, guys I had a drawing related question, and since I can't find any good answers anywhere else I thought I'd ask you.

Will drawing tons of circles and boxes actually help overall? I'd be more than willing to do it, but before I start I'm worried that it' wont actually help, and it would just be a big waste of time.

I can't seem to find any videos or anyone saying that drawing circles and boxes over and over again actually improve your skills, so I'm hesitant. Any feedback would be really helpful. :)

[Anonymous No.3190394]

[Anonymous No.3190395]

>>3190393
Yes it helps
Now get drawing

[Anonymous No.3190417]

>>3190258

not really...

[Anonymous No.3190430]

>>3190369
You can either understand how spheres work when rotated or just create a visual library of what eyes look like at certain angles and rely on memory to draw eyes from now on. There's no shortcut.

[Anonymous No.3190445]

how to draw chibi like Murata?

happy hallowinter begs

[Anonymous No.3190448]

>>3190267
>japanese anime bg guide
u wot? Found nothing like this in old sticky, new sticky, artbook thread or google

[Anonymous No.3190449]

>>3190445
>hallowinter
What
Just draw and have fun with them
That's what Murata does

[Anonymous No.3190450]

>>3190445
Study his work for months trying your best to emulate his proportions, construction, rendering etc... until you get something close to his style

[Anonymous No.3190455]

>>3190448
it was posted in the art book thread 2-3 weeks ago. I don't remember the exact title since it was in Japanese, learn to lurk more. I have the pdf and it covers basic rendering, sky, clouds, trees and basic nature environment.

[Anonymous No.3190457]

>>3190455
>I have the pdf and it covers basic rendering, sky, clouds, trees and basic nature environment.
good for you lol

[Anonymous No.3190468]

>>3189839
thanks. i wouldn't really say i have much of a "process" though. if i see really prominent value shapes (like with the dude on the top left) i usually just go straight into a random part and draw those the best i can. if the overall shape appeals (like the girl profile) to me, i try to get that correct first. then for both i just build up values until it starts to look right.

[Anonymous No.3190486]

>>3190455
link please

[Anonymous No.3190488]

Bow before my greatness. Day one, should I consider suicide?

[Anonymous No.3190489]

>>3190488
Shut up and draw faggot

[Anonymous No.3190494]

Never use gel pen with graphite guys

[Anonymous No.3190508]

>>3189968
Honestly if you're on a budget I'd suggest ink pot and brush. getting a large bottle of speedball superblack or whatever it is from amazon is pretty economical. Brush pens are nice but refill costs will build up very quickly. Any technical pen will do, you might want to put some extra cash on some refillable ones but honestly I've never had any issues with cheap ones except. Nice eraser like a kneadable reaser works well with ink - art gum erasers are nice but I've found I sometimes smudge my inkwork with those. Other tools you might want are t-squares, speed squares, protractors or other drawing guides (french curves, circle guides. etc.). Probably want to look into different papers as well but I don't think I can help you with that.

[big heads t-rex arms guy No.3190522]

How are these 2?
1/2

[big heads t-rex arms guy No.3190523]

>>3190522

[Anonymous No.3190602]

>>3190522
you've noticed your problem for a month now. you should have fixed it in two days

[Anonymous No.3190613]

>>3190522
>>3190523
the next eric

[Anonymous No.3190616]

>>3190258
This is actually quite visually appealing. Your lines look very sharp, but not unnatural. Purely from a viewer's standpoint however.

[Anonymous No.3190628]

>>3190616
>random scratches
>not unnatural

[Anonymous No.3190633]

Shading from imagination for the first time. Shit got retarded on the last one.

[Anonymous No.3190635]

how do i make this? is it a special photoshop brush? textures over clipping mask? both?

t

[Anonymous No.3190636]

>>3190635
No image.

[Anonymous No.3190638]

>>3190635

i'm dumb

here is the img

[Anonymous No.3190642]

>>3190394
Pay attention to:

1. Angle of the ear.
2. Top of the head.
3. Curves of the eye socket shadows.

[Anonymous No.3190643]

>>3190642

[Anonymous No.3190646]

I wish I were good at drawing just to draw porn

[Anonymous No.3190649]

>>3190646
What kind of porn?

[Anonymous No.3190651]

>>3190649
all kinds. from lovely couple to furry tentacles

[Anonymous No.3190654]

>>3190651
Do your bargue plates like the anon above and you'll be on your way to drawing the most repugnant and fetid of porn known to /ic/.

[Anonymous No.3190660]

anyone got a guide to improve linework? mine just look too flat

[Anonymous No.3190672]

>>3190638
I recognise that fucking wiggly brush

Draw basic shape + apply clipping masks with texture on it → profit

[Anonymous No.3190674]

>>3190642
yeah now looking at it after taking some time away i easily spot all kinds of discrepancies. will fix tomorrow and then shade. i should probably step away more often in the future to get a fresh view at the drawing

[Anonymous No.3190676]

>>3190672

when i do so the image doesn't end up like it has in your pictures, it doesn't have a wiggly perimeter but a clean one

[Anonymous No.3190678]

>>3190642
yeah now looking at it after spending some time away i easily spot all kinds of discrepancies. will fix tomorrow and then shade. i should probably step away more often in the future to get a fresh view at what i am drawing. it really all does start to become kind of like a blur when you never stop. thanks for the feedback anon

[Anonymous No.3190681]

>>3190676
I'm using a textured brush to draw the shape specifically this one: https://transfer.sh/d0JnB/Untitled%20Brushes.abr
You'll have to test tonnes of brushes to find the best one and use a brush as an eraser, that exported one will probably have my brush tool presets but you can make another one into an eraser. There's at least three different brush textures used in the image, one that's probably some kind of rock texture, the wiggly carpet texture and the base one on the walls that might just be a regular paper texture downloaded off google, inverted and set to screen mode and the contrast increased.

[Anonymous No.3190694]

>>3190678
It does and it never stops. It's a cycle of steps and corrections and each time you get closer and closer to being spot on, more errors will appear.

Good work and keep at it.

[Anonymous No.3190695]

>>3190676
*
I feel like I've done enough shopping for paper textures to recognise the texture used on the wallpaper as one of the ones off google. It's not the one in this image but it's definitely out there on google somewhere and with contrast + some sharpness it would look exactly the wall if you set the colour to black and white first.

[Anonymous No.3190697]

drawing faces, how am i going?

[Anonymous No.3190698]

Some head sketches I made.
I've no idea how to actually study

[Anonymous No.3190700]

Yo lads does this position make sense?

[Anonymous No.3190701]

>>3190697

Learn to draw a real human face before stylizing.

[Anonymous No.3190705]

>>3190698
Use Reily, Loomis, Hogarth or whatever method of head construction most appeals to your senses.

Apply the method to the these Asaro heads.

Take your time, do not rush these. Finish with clean facets and matching values.

[Anonymous No.3190710]

>>3190701
You mean real like this one? I feel pretty good with portraits and realistic faces. I just want to git gud with style stuff.

[Anonymous No.3190711]

>>3190710
It's flat. Learn the forms of the face and how to represent it as a 3d object.

[Anonymous No.3190714]

>>3190710
follow >>3190705

[Anonymous No.3190720]

I just want to be able to draw gay shit.

[Anonymous No.3190722]

>>3190710
>pretty good

At copying? Study and apply anon.

[Anonymous No.3190739]

>>3190700
yeh, but upper body looks stiff in terms of features.

[Anonymous No.3190749]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xgOwDDvMPU&t=21s

[Anonymous No.3190750]

???

[Anonymous No.3190755]

clueless about composition, only changed it after i realized i wanted a scene instead of a design... help

[Anonymous No.3190756]

>>3190705
>Apply the method to the these Asaro heads.

How

[Anonymous No.3190774]

>>3190720
Good taste anon

[Anonymous No.3190775]

>>3190756
not guy you asked question from but i found out Robertson's boxes are the easiest method to understand heads in perspective.

just learn them in the 6 orthogonal views, learn perspective drawing transposition and start with easy exercises such as houses, buildings, or cartoon faces. once you get hang of it use it with human faces as that one has a lot more features hence more energy consuming, not that it is any harder.

there is no actual loomis, hampton, hogarth "technique". i read them all and they just give you a nice diagram with some tricks to work from, or feature placement notes to enhance your comprehension. the "technique" is the same as Robertson's boxes, except worded in a more confusing way that makes it harder to transfer head drawing to any other things, like cars. the technique itself is transferable.

reilly actually has a technique but to understand abstraction it would be best if you understood construction first.

[Anonymous No.3190782]

>>3190750
the ref looks like manipulated by Photoshop. lacks occlusion shadow on skin next to pants and skin tones doesn't match.

>>3190710
you gained 1000xp in Eyeballing. construction level: 0.

without construction aka boxing, you'll never be able to make it in terms of imagination drawing, or to fully grasp it.

[Anonymous No.3190786]

>>3190755
Really great for a beginner, nothing wrong with the composition, just finish it.

>>3190750
Block in your shaped instead of drawing lineart of a figure, it helps.

>>3190633 (dubs)
Not bad but the contrast is way off, buy a darker pencil to help touch up the shadows.

>>3190332
>>3190203
>>3190151
>>3189940
I love it

>>3190137
Study the objects you're drawing

>>3190051
Not bad but I don't think you drew from the reference correctly, her features look off, her eyes for example.

[big heads t-rex arms guy No.3190927]

>>3190613
What is that?

[Anonymous No.3190930]

I'll post it here I guess.
Any tips on drawing dogs? Is there a book on dog anatomy for drawing?

[big heads t-rex arms guy No.3190933]

>>3190602
I'm kinda a slow learner, could you tell me what u think the problems are?

[Anonymous No.3190935]

>>3190933
its in your name you fucking faglord

[big heads t-rex arms guy No.3190943]

>>3190935
oh.

guess your right. x)

[Anonymous No.3190949]

>>3190943
>x)
reported

[Anonymous No.3190958]

>>3190930

[Anonymous No.3190963]

>>3190958
Thanks. Any tips on how to draw/shadow the hair?

[Anonymous No.3190964]

>>3190963
do studies with a hard round brush and you're learn without "tips"

[Anonymous No.3190966]

>>3190964
My medium is pencil. I'll migrate to painting once I know what I'm going to paint.

[Anonymous No.3190979]

>>3190638
Looks like vector graphics with a textured vector brush/outline and with textures applied with a blend mode. I can do a quick tutorial if you'd like?

[Anonymous No.3191054]

>draw on paper
>lines are strong
>draw on tablet
>lines are like a bumpy hick road
I finally measured the difference of drawing a line on my tablet and how it appears on my monitor and the output is almost literally double the distance of the input. Is this the reason my lines are so weak? Because my tablet is too small?

[Anonymous No.3191112]

What's the go to resource for learning digital rendering/coloring/whatever the proper term is?? Pic related is my first attempt and I don't really get it.

[Anonymous No.3191114]

>>3191112
https://www.ctrlpaint.com/
James gurneys book

If I were you I'd read the the board sticky.

[Anonymous No.3191117]

>>3189764
Last post I was told to add line weight, better anatomy, and to read up on color theory. I think I did a decent job at including them in this piece

Is there anything I should fix before I add in the color and finish it??

[Anonymous No.3191119]

>>3191117
You just straight up color picked this.

[Anonymous No.3191121]

>>3191119
yes, I color picked the skin color. Should I change that?

[Anonymous No.3191136]

>>3191121
What do you think? (genuine question)

[Anonymous No.3191141]

>>3191136
For now Im going to say no. Because If I did dabble with the skin color, the drawing wont look like the towergirl Im trying to draw.

Im most likely better off messing around with the shading. By either making it warm or cold

[Anonymous No.3191143]

I've been trying out different construction methods. This is loomis-y method, I've been having difficulty with making the skull and face features convincingly three dimensional. A bit better here but I don't feel it's quite there. The posture was added after the skull, it looks like he's slouched but it's fine I think.

Redline anyone?

[Anonymous No.3191145]

>>3191141
Wrong.

[Anonymous No.3191240]

feeling lazy

[Anonymous No.3191259]

I don't understand loomis or head construction in general. Am I supposed to be able to apply this construction method when drawing from a reference or is this more for creating stuff from imagination.

[Anonymous No.3191281]

>>3191259
Both, although it's most useful for drawing form imagination. It's purpose is to make the complex problem of presenting a three-dimensional shape on a 2 dimensional plane really simple. Its supposed to make you understand the planes of the head so you can construct it better, once you've done so by grinding for hours drawing different poses you SHOULD have a firm grasp of what part of the face/head looks like in each position, essentially giving you the ability to present a 3D object in 2D space. Once you can do that, reference drawing gets simpler, as you don't have to imagine anything.

[Anonymous No.3191337]

>>3191143
You've set the jaw/chin back too far from the rest of the face. Other than that, the cheeks and forehead are spot on.

[Anonymous No.3191375]

Critique please.

[Anonymous No.3191401]

>>3190267
oh, so this rose is actually bad and pointless drawing, well, time to kill my self

[Anonymous No.3191432]

>>3191401
If you can't handle advice and constructive criticism.. you might want to find a new hobby.

If you'd like to keep trying, maybe think about the reason you drew this floating rose. What do you gain or learn from it?

If you want to make a finished drawing, study roses and fill a few pages of quick sketches. From different angles, with different lighting, etc. Sketches are simply evidence of what you have learned about a certain form. Sketch until what you're drawing makes sense (look at the leaves of your rose, do they make sense or did you just draw lines because 'leaves have lines on them'?) and then you're ready to make finished drawings.

[Anonymous No.3191438]

>>3191401

You're not that bad and the thing about drawing is. The more you draw the better you'll get whether you want it or not. Unless you have a neurological disorder.

[big heads t-rex arms guy No.3191510]

How to get better at perspective.

smaller head, looks better?

[big heads t-rex arms guy No.3191511]

>>3191510
just noticed his eyes are kinda off ;//

[Anonymous No.3191561]

>>3191143

It's like you're adding a face on top of a face.

[Anonymous No.3191647]

>>3191145
Could you elaborate then?

[Anonymous No.3191655]

[Anonymous No.3191664]

>>3191647
Not him but you have to learn how colors and light work. Your colors will be extremely blown out and saturated if you color pick.

https://youtu.be/azYkGDIjYNA?t=859 Whole video is good however

[Anonymous No.3191665]

Can I get some critique on my Giraffe before I dive in on the detailing. Thanks

[Anonymous No.3191667]

wip

[Anonymous No.3191668]

What the fuck did I just paint?

[Anonymous No.3191669]

>>3191647
You don't have to keep the exact same colour for people to know it's the same character. Skin colour changes a lot depending on lighting, what matters is what colour it represents, rather than what it actually is.

Watch a bunch of colour theory videos on youtube as well as skin painting tutorials. Even if you're not painting you're gonna learn how skin works so you can simplify it.

Your shadows look weird, unless she lit by a candle next to her face. It has no relevance to her skin tone at all. When doing shadows try going half way from your base tone to black, and changing the hue slightly if you want to make it cooler. SLIGHTLY. Making something cooler doesn't mean going all the way to blue.

You're on the right track with the warm and cold colours but what's the point doing that but not choosing the colour of the skin? There aren't even shadows on that chibi reference you have, so the colours that work on that don't necessarily work with a more detailed pic. This does for the hair and clothes as well, don't colour pick them. You need a balance of colour. If you have one bright saturated colour, the rest should be muted, so choose which one you want to stand out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kQllLy_X4I

[Anonymous No.3191671]

>>3191665
Hey I remember the same giraffe from that Schoolism course!

That being said, I don't like how he starts bat off with animals, as they're much more complex to master than rather I say, geometrical shapes/Bargue. It's just a good enough course that encourages you drawing but doesn't go any better than that. Russian Fundies book is better.

[Anonymous No.3191674]

>>3191671
Did you notice any improvement after taking schoolism courses?

[Anonymous No.3191681]

>>3191674
It got me motivated, but what he demonstrate doesn't go beyond copying. But as far as actual improvement goes, Bargue is far more efficient in regards to copying as it allows immediate self feedback and the other books in the sticky(Vilppu, Robertson, Hogarth). Doing that course will up your eyeballing (which improves by copying stuffs). Either way, you'll need motivation as a beginner than anything else, and draw every day. If you don't feel like it's aiding you in that, then find another solution.

[Anonymous No.3191683]

>>3191681
I only just signed up for it last night and found the first lesson very helpful.
I was just curious what you thought about schoolism as a whole.

[Anonymous No.3191706]

>>3191683
Sorry, I only tried the first course! I think that the teachers are motivating, and that's important. Personally, it's not really for me as I'm a poorfag who manage to work with books alone well. If you feel that it works for you, stick to it!

[Anonymous No.3191710]

Wip, feedback welcome before I keep building on it.

And no, is not dabbing, is a pose from kamen Rangers

[Anonymous No.3191711]

>>3191706
Right on thanks alot anon.
Mind critiquing my Giraffe?

[Anonymous No.3191713]

Id be glad with any replies and criticism thank you

>>3191668
It looks really nice

[Anonymous No.3191714]

how's the anatomy so far?

[Anonymous No.3191717]

>>3191711
OK back at it. The neck should be on a S shape. While yours look more cylindric. The whole head-neck area should be more tilted to the paper's left, due to the neck's S curve. So yeah, the whole neck-head needs to be redone.

Other than that, the giraffe's left front leg is too parallel to the body. Gah, if you read Vilppu that would be easier to fix and understand! Back legs are also too long.

So the mistakes you made are due to "inaccuracy" in angle measurement, it's rather common but not impossible to fix. Using Vilppu's gesture technique and genetic framing is a way to set up the landmarks to avoid mistakes like this better. In a way, think of getting the skeleton right before placing the meat(form). If you did that first you wouldn't need to redo the whole head next time... If you know what I mean.

[Anonymous No.3191718]

>>3191717
>genetic
I mean generic. Russian art fundamental books and Bargue teaches it.

[Anonymous No.3191727]

>>3191717
Yea I think I understand.
Whats this book youre referring to?

[Anonymous No.3191732]

>>3191713
Honestly like the energetic gestures. But are those arm lengths on purpose? Also the knees and ankles are pretty bad on that girl too.
You could have told me the far right girl was drawn by someone different than the sketches on the left and I would have believed you.

[Anonymous No.3191733]

>>3191727
Drawing manual by Glenn Vilppu. It's very easy to understand and made for beginners. Although chapter 3 and onwards absolutely requires the knowledge of perspective to move on. But the first 2 are enough to fix the problem with the giraffe. Think of chapter 3+ as embellishment.

I forgot the name of the Russian book, only skimmed it and it's the same one I've been using at my atelier so I'd say that is good! Though the technique in itself can be found online. It's called observational drawing, and you'll be applying framing, comparative/relative measures and sight size.

Just to note, I only got that knowledge/trick by combining multiple books I've read. One book doesn't solve all just you know.

[Anonymous No.3191738]

>>3191714
rezised it.

[Anonymous No.3191741]

>>3191738

[Anonymous No.3191744]

Btw forgot to mention it. Vilppu won't fix your mistakes that easily as it's more about the workflow than anything and framing is more likely to do so. You really need to combine the two of them to make it work.

>>3191741
Had a hard time telling whether that was the front or the back. The whole thing looks clunky as the clavicle can't find its place in this. Got the feeling you managed to clean up the head but added on the rest without thinking in terms of figure. I would suggest returning to the drawing board and fix the gesture before adding the clothes.

[Anonymous No.3191750]

>>3191732
>You could have told me the far right girl was drawn by someone different than the sketches on the left and I would have believed you.
i knew someone was gonna say that. I have this problem where I always try different forms because I hate sticking to one method , but it becomes problem because everything I draw is inconsistant and it becomes hard to learn :/ I also have a hard time drawing anatomy for right now. But I only just really started so i hope i get better ( > - w-)>

anyway, i roughly colored in my sketch of the male.

[Anonymous No.3191760]

>>3191744


the gesture is correct

[Anonymous No.3191763]

>>3191750
The skeleture (What the fuck I was sure this was a word, someone tell me what I'm thinking about) and muscles don't support the longer arms. Her shoulders would be way broader and her pec muscles would connect relatively far down the arm because of how the insertion moves down as the arm enlarges.

If you experiment with extreme body structures you have to really think about how the structure would actually work in reality.

[Anonymous No.3191765]

>>3191760
Neck looks a bit too long for a 6-6.5 head tall character like that.

[Anonymous No.3191769]

>>3191765
idk

[Anonymous No.3191773]

>>3191769
Do you not see where her collarbones are compared to yours?
You could just overlay the images in photoshop to see the other differences if you're so inclined.

[Anonymous No.3191774]

>>3191760
Now that I see the figure, it's less confusing!

Some noticeable things: left upper arm looks shorter than right upper arm. Or right arm is too long. Either way, right arm is farther from station point so it should be thinner/smaller. Still feel that something is off...

>>3191769
Ahhh I got it. Wait a sec I'm going to study this. Let me trying to figure out what felt off...

For now, if compared to the photo, the torso's curve is wrong.

Also, due to this, there is no foreshortening in the photo. But in yours, the right arm looks like it's behind the leg, which it is not.

I think that this is mostly caused by a confusion due to the chest area. Which made you not find the ribcage's box correctly.

Phew, that was a hard one... I'm done for a while.

[Anonymous No.3191775]

>>3191773
even if you moved the collar bones you wont see the difference as it's under a shirt.

[Anonymous No.3191777]

>>3191774
To add on, things to fix:

The neck looks wrong because it's too tilted attached to a ribcage in perspective. Resulting a stretchy look.

The original neck works because the ribcage isn't in perspective.

[Anonymous No.3191779]

>>3191775
It would lift and change the angles of the shoulders. It would be a subtle change, but it was a subtle mistake in the first place that made it look off.

[Anonymous No.3191781]

>>3191777
the ribcage wasn't drawn in perspective.

[Anonymous No.3191784]

>>3191781
OK, should have worded it better. I meant not drawn in a 100% front orthogonal view as in the reference. Yours look more tilted to one side.

[Anonymous No.3191785]

[Anonymous No.3191786]

I've been hanging around the /a/ drawthread for the past two weeks while getting back into drawing. My experience has been this:

>"How do I do this?"
>"Just copy from other works and work from there until you develop a style of your own."
>Draw a couple things while relying heavily on tracing from multiple sources
>"How can I improve on these and make them unique?"
>"FUCKING TRACING FAGGOT AND YOUR DERIVATIVE "ART" FUCKING KILL YOURSELF"

How do I wean myself off of relying heavily on tracing and improve my overall lineart? The main criticism of what I've done to date (Besides "You traced you hack") is that my lines are almost all the same thickness, which those with an eye for art say makes the piece look "lifeless". Right now I'm drawing only with a mouse and the line/curve tool in Paint.net.

[Anonymous No.3191788]

Doing Loomis construction. Thoughts? I know my features need work, but I'm more focused on construction right now.

[Anonymous No.3191791]

Could I get a redline?
Also which eye shape do you guys prefer?
Couldn't make up my mind

[Anonymous No.3191795]

>>3191786
You don't copy by tracing. You copy with your skills, and if you can't, you build those skills until you can.
Read the st/ic/ky.

[Anonymous No.3191798]

>>3191786
>Right now I'm drawing only with a mouse
You just posted your answer, it is about 100x more difficult to draw ANYTHING with a fuckcing mouse.

[Anonymous No.3191818]

>>3189781
Hypno??

[Anonymous No.3191823]

>>3191665
I'd go back and try and break down the major forms. There should be a solid skeletal structure you can feel from this, but I'm not getting any from your drawing.

[Anonymous No.3191837]

so I downloaded all the Loomis and some other stuff people have been recommending

What order do I do these in?

[Anonymous No.3191844]

>>3191788
Your eyes don't look like they're deep inside the eye socket.

>>3191837
The sticky tells you exactly what to do in the beginning.

[Anonymous No.3191851]

>>3191837
delete this

read keys to drawing and do observational drawings for two months, get a little understanding of what form actually means and how to portray it, and come back to loomis if you want

[Anonymous No.3191858]

>>3191117
update

>>3191664
>>3191669
ty for your time!

[Anonymous No.3191867]

>>3191858
Poor perspective. Everything is clashing.

[Anonymous No.3191870]

>>3189764
just picked up my first tablet. drawing of some river in yellowstone, i forgot where i took the picture.

[Anonymous No.3191955]

>>3191858
On the right track, well done. Though, change the colour of the coin. Same applies, it will still read as gold even if it's not a bright yellow because it's in shadow.

[Anonymous No.3191990]

>>3191665
Did you just try and draw the outline of it?

[Anonymous No.3192011]

>>3191858
I'm liking it! Great job and keep pushing, I wanna see a finished product of this painting :)

[Anonymous No.3192030]

>>3191791

Is she having a seizure?

[Anonymous No.3192043]

>>3192030
That's rude af man, not necessary at all. These threads are harsh sometimes but these are beginners dude, at least give some criticism or you're worthless here.

>>3191791
As for the drawing, I like the eye on the right. Add a neck and please move the broom down so it doesn't look like it's in between her butt cheeks lol. The skirt looks a bit messily drawn too, try and keep the strength of your outline consistent.

[Anonymous No.3192059]

What the fuck is learning to draw anyways? Should I be attempting only straight realism or what

[Anonymous No.3192060]

>>3192059
What the fuck are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.3192061]

>>3192060
Like should I be attempting to draw things that aren't realistic? Would this fuck up learning somehow

[Anonymous No.3192064]

>>3192061
Ask yourself what you want and read the sticky as a starting point.

[Anonymous No.3192066]

>>3192064
I already read that a

[Anonymous No.3192072]

>>3192043

If you can't take a little bit of joke. Oh boy, I wish I can see when you get real harsh shit thrown at you.

[Anonymous No.3192073]

>>3192072
Feel free to make a joke thread :)

[Anonymous No.3192088]

>>3192073

feel free to fuck off to reddit.

[Anonymous No.3192091]

>>3192088
u mad :))))?

[Anonymous No.3192101]

>>3192072
what you said wasnt even harsh, it was just pointless

[Anonymous No.3192127]

>>3192072
>>3192088
Why don't you just fuck off and vent on something offline instead

[Anonymous No.3192132]

posting again for advice on this. been too lazy to finish it, hoping some advice will motivate me

[Anonymous No.3192143]

Starting drawabox. When people first said "it's trash go back to /beg/ and read the sticky" I was thinking "Oh I already know all the shit in the sticky I don't need any of that". As it turns out that was wrong.

[Anonymous No.3192154]

>>3192132
I don't know, it looks pretty good for the water at least. maybe move on to something else

[Anonymous No.3192168]

>>3191786
Go back to using a pencil+sketchbook. Drawing decent paintings with a mouse is more than possible (albeit time consuming), but you're skipping out on a lot of vital concepts by starting straight from digital. If you want more finished works, you can always scan or take a picture of the sketch(es) and polish them from there, but either way it's best to get familiar with the pencil.

[Anonymous No.3192174]

[Anonymous No.3192177]

>>3192059
Good question. What are your goals when it comes to drawing? Chances are, while studying realism, learning proper human proportions, etc. are vital to producing almost any form of artwork, you may have to branch out and dabble into other areas that'll let you get closer to your goal. Heck, even studying anime artwork is a legitimate way of practicing, but without decent knowledge of how the human form works, you'd be hard pressed to be able to make proper stylized works. I personally went straight to realism and then incorporated the concepts I'd learned from there into my more stylized drawings.

[Anonymous No.3192245]

Should the figure be drawn in 1 point perspective?

[Anonymous No.3192248]

>>3192245
Try?

[Anonymous No.3192273]

>>3191791
Some suggestions to help with the under-drawing.

[Anonymous No.3192291]

>>3192132
update

[Anonymous No.3192294]

>>3192291
Did you photobash the sand in?

[Anonymous No.3192296]

>>3192294
yeah because screw that unless you can suggest an easier way than doing them by hand..

[Anonymous No.3192301]

>>3192174
I hope your are squinting your eyes, because some areas of value are too muddy, most noticeably the ribcage. It should be one block of the more lighter values - parts of the ribcage can be considered a plane in and of itself. i.e. use a much bigger brush during the block in if you don't care to do a quick sketch underhand to double-check your proportions and negative spaces.. which you might want to have done.

[im ttorrr and i suck No.3192303]

im gonna post a couple images over the course of a couple months; it's difficult to gauge where im at because i saved almost every single thing i saved since 07/2017 to present which is about 1200 pictures
>1 of 3

[Anonymous No.3192304]

do I need to push the values in the shadow area?

[Anonymous No.3192344]

>>3192304
Yes, the shadow at the small of the back needs to be pushed to fit the original, and your shadow at the bottom of the butt is muddy - theirs has a hard edge on the bottom and a soft edge at the top.

[Anonymous No.3192356]

>>3192296
>easier way

Just quit.

[Anonymous No.3192358]

>>3192127

This aint your personal hugbox faggot. Go suck balls some other place.

[Anonymous No.3192359]

>>3192356
>implying honor matters

[Anonymous No.3192360]

>>3192356
Let me know if you have any suggestions on how to paint a bunch of rocks like that. I'm sure no one paints them one by one, I'm just not sure how they do it.

[Anonymous No.3192380]

>>3192360

Actually they do. Go look for material study videos on youtube.

Taking shortcuts during practice is just hurting yourself. You can take shortcuts for paid jobs if you want.

[Anonymous No.3192400]

drew a fanart thing in a cartoony style

[Anonymous No.3192401]

>>3192380
yea youre right, will look that up

[Anonymous No.3192404]

>>3192400
Got a blog?

[Anonymous No.3192410]

>>3192404
what does this actually add to the thread, i'm a fairly new artist looking for feedback like the thread intends what is your problem.

If not being sarcastic then no.

[Anonymous No.3192431]

>>3192273
Ah thanks this helps a lot

>>3192043
Yeah I haven't really tried constructing fabric like that before so it came out real messy but I was planning to clean it up before moving forward, I think I'll go with the design on the right then, I like it too

[Anonymous No.3192433]

>>3192358
>hugbox
It's rather the teenage level "joke" and lame "everybody does it" justification for it. Don't pretend the normalfag problem and worthless shitposts are opposites, faggot

[Anonymous No.3192434]

>>3192400
Nice!

[Anonymous No.3192436]

>>3192410
You look like you haven't even tried the basics or the fundies. Why should you get any feedback if you're to retarded to even read the sticky and attempt the basics.

[Anonymous No.3192441]

Still practicing head construction, using Loomis and Danny Galiote's video series.
These are from imagination, using their construction model. I know the features aren't the best looking but I'm more concerned about correct placement and structure more than them looking pretty.

Thoughts? Any help appreciated.

[ttorrr No.3192480]

>>3192303
>Update
1 of 3

[Anonymous No.3192481]

For my fellow anons who are struggling with anatomy: I found David Finch's Dynamic Figure Drawing Volume 3: The Body on TPB and it's been great so far. I feel like his method is more acessible. I know it maybe be a bit too "comic booky"for some, but for these guys I say: just take his "skeleton structure" and draw the muscles/flesh using other artist as reference.

For someone who struggled with loomis, vilppu, reilly method and many others it's good to finally kinda see a light. Hope this helps someone.

[ttorrr No.3192483]

>>3192480
2

[Anonymous No.3192489]

>>3192441
What jumps out most to me is the lack of form in the eyes. If you can look in a mirror while you study, highly recommend you do so. I'll do. I'll drop this reference in, to show what I mean. Not suggesting you go as detailed as this, but notice how the eye sits in the model. Keep up the good work.

[Anonymous No.3192495]

Well, the last two days have been quite interesting for me. I started off with the only portrait as seen in the image and I kept wondering why I couldn't get it to look right after measuring for hours upon hours. I decided to then move to the page to the right and draw a bunch of eyes because those were the biggest problems on my portrait.

But as I kept drawing them I realized that I couldn't stop them from looking flat or just plain wrong. I kept trying to figure out what I could do as I kept drawing more and more eyes but only once in a blue moon would I get something that looked ok. That's when I decided to try out one of the the Bargue Plates I kept hearing around these threads and decided to perform my first "study", I quote study because I'm not 100% sure how to do a study.

I went back to the left page and copied the bargue plates trying to understand why his eyes made sense and mine didn't. I think that's when I reached the conclusion that I kept attempting to draw every single line I could find. Simply put, I kept thinking the more lines I placed the better my art would look, this was completely wrong and so I felt like over the last two days I learned something critical that might help me push forward into the future.

More lines != Better results

This following is just theory from a novice, but I think the overall theme here is that whether you're a line artist or someone who wants to do portraits, trying to remove lines that are hard to see. Those lines are probably subtle bends that could be best capture with shading.

I finally gave it my own shot after doing just 9 copies (the portrait on the bottom of the left page with the iris), I think the improvements already show after just doing that little and so I am eager to keep looking into more complex studies and devote myself to this methodology when I get stuck.

[Anonymous No.3192498]

>>3192489
Hey, thanks buddy. It seems a repeating critcism when I post my studies is eye placement so I'll work harder on it for sure.

>>3192495
Eyes are a bitch.

[Anonymous No.3192505]

>>3192498
Hope my insights help you out in some way..

In the following link are the plates I studied.

https://get.google.com/albumarchive/104620822473004383244/album/AF1QipNPt9r0Hvk0zLYGfndEt_B57MXUT2YxyPZtYFdV

[Anonymous No.3192539]

What width and height is best for singular charcter CG/ What is the more commonly used by other artists.

I've been sticking to 1280 x 720, 300 res but that's only because I do BG mostly

[Anonymous No.3192551]

>>3192400
Hope I didn't mess with the vision. The redraw was mostly for entertainment since I'm kinda /beg/ myself but hey, maybe it is of some use.

[big heads t-rex arms guy No.3192554]

tried to draw one of 'the two satyrs'.

(the pic is kinda crowded because I'm doing that fill a page per week thing.)

[Anonymous No.3192561]

How does one convey a messy hairstyle in a simple way

[Anonymous No.3192592]

>>3192495
"studying" in art terms means figuring out why shit works and why shit doesn't. perhaps by copying bargue, you've figured out what are the most necessary landmarks and what are not. we can say that this newfound knowledge is acquired thanks to the act of "studying".

tldr: getting your shit figured out; learn to analyze not just copy. (Vilppu)

[Anonymous No.3192604]

>>3192551
thanks

made me notice especially the arms are too small

[Anonymous No.3192611]

>>3192561
by knowing how actual hair works

read the sticky for your own sake

[Anonymous No.3192653]

>>3192273
Definitely a decent manni, but you turned her head unnecessarily. I think the original indicates the head is tilted towards the camera, which I do think is a nicer idea for appeal, rather than having her look ahead in a sort of third person looking in.

I was going to redline this myself but then it got late and you've done a great job. But yah, to the original person >>3191791 I would say you can get a lot of help from this red/blue line but don't be afraid to try and recapture that coy look of the original by tilting the head a bit towards the camera like it was, but using perspective guides etc. like this artist did with the loomis manni to help you get everything right.

[im ttorrr and i suck No.3192662]

hello thread

after reading an article, i realize:

-my style is non-existent as i have no rules to follow

-i sometimes cannot replicate certain images as i call them "critical shots"

-i am perplexed upon drawing every day, it doesnt seem to improve very much. (granted i've only first started "trying for real" for almost 4 months) but i should have made SOME progress

i could post a drop box link of every single thing i've posted to make this easier as well. just let me know.

>>with this being said, this is the most complete thing i've drawn so far in terms of

imagination

and greek mythology (this stuff is irrelevant)


-harshly critique it and let tell me why you do, or do not like it.

[Anonymous No.3192665]

>>3192303
Upload them all

[im ttorrr and i suck No.3192697]

>>3192665
>>3192662

drop box(june-ish to aug 2017):
sh/7buorwr63t3lspu/AAC7KSzkYUu8PLtPqvHtPJ5Na?dl=0

(aug to almost present-ish)
/sh/sn2praxokztvaed/AADtMYCDoaA0ZFcn6LtVMFcsa?dl=0

[Anonymous No.3192760]

>>3192662
Congratulations, you now realized that "muh style" is a meme when you don't know how to draw.

Drop the style, read the sticky, read keys to drawing, do studies, and maybe in a year or two you'd be on the right track.

[Anonymous No.3192762]

>>3192662
the worst part about this post is trying to namefag

[im ttorrr and i suck No.3192769]

>>3192760
>>3192762
thank you for being very harsh

these two things i read opened up my iron-hard shell to actually accept correction.

give em a look. or share em.

https://design.tutsplus.com/articles/10-drawing-myths-that-block-your-progress--cms-23892

https://design.tutsplus.com/articles/realism-photorealism-and-style-in-drawing--cms-21630

>>3192762
i have a fun plan for this. just stay tuned....for about a year

[Anonymous No.3192774]

asking here instead of the artbook thread

What are some good alternatives for the Anatomy for the Sculptor book? I need an anatomy book but I'm not paying $80 for a fucking paperback book. I'm a guy of substance so I don't learn very well by reading books on the computer, I like to have the physical thing. Any cheaper recommendations? I would get it but $80 is just too steep for me right now.

[Anonymous No.3192777]

>>3192769
Enough reading articles. Start grinding the fundamentals already.

[Anonymous No.3192821]

>>3192441
This is great, keep it up guy

[Anonymous No.3192841]

>>3192769
If you find a site that no one else talks about that for some reason tells you everything you want to hear, doubt it.
Read a little closer. The whole tutorial is just pretty words - there's no evidence, there's no proof (and it contradicts the very idea of the childhood learning period, which is very well established in motor, interpersonal and logical contexts) and there's only empty, cheery advice made to get you to blame yourself for failure.
It teaches you to expect nothing of yourself and disguises it with "real artists aren't this good", when it's likely just the author trying to screen themselves against criticism. If you read closely, it promises nothing and explains nothing, just tells people to shut up, not expect anything, blame everything on themselves and uphold the myth that everyone, regardless of motor skills, three-dimensional thinking and imagination, can mysteriously duplicate the well-documented childhood growth period if they just stop blaming their teachers and blame themselves.
Talent is a bigger factor than you're being made to believe, because among prodigies, there are indeed people who go from 1 to 10 as soon as they pick up a pen - this is because to them, completely naturally, they see the object as it is in all its detail, register light and shadow, get a sense of its mass and proportions, and then just write it down on paper.
It can feel unfair, but every time these arguments come up, there's absolutely no logical meat on them and have no backup. I have no experience with reasonably competent artists who've started after the 10 years old, and not even here we get people who start from zero at twenty-something and get to a level where you can actually enjoy their art.

[Anonymous No.3192856]

>>3189838
Why are you so defensive? He's saying /ic/ is shit, which it is. How do you expect 1 person to fix a garbage ass community? Do you tell a chef how to perfect his recipe after he gives you shitty food? No. You send it back and tell him it tastes like ass.

[Anonymous No.3192881]

I gotta get better.

[Anonymous No.3192903]

>>3192774
you try checking to your local library?

[Anonymous No.3192911]

>>3189940
Too bad shes gay, along with half the female population

[Anonymous No.3192951]

>>3189793
not useless. it manage to keep the dunning kruegers and dick sucking faggot in it. the other place is stylization thread.

[Anonymous No.3192952]

Digital is bad, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.3192956]

Can I please get an anatomy check?

[Anonymous No.3192959]

Am I supposed to be able to do portraits even though I don't really want to draw those?

[Anonymous No.3192964]

>>3189764
Hi,i looking to buy a Tablet,i got my eyes on a Huion 1060 plus,seems really cool,nice looking,not expensive,and for what i saw on youtube a very good tablet,buut,reading user's opinions,i see that has many drivers problems in Windows,or with the Usb cables to charge the Pen,and stuff like that,so in summary...should i buy this?,did Huion fixed these problems or they shove it up their asses and do nothing,don't want to waste money
I hope someone can clear this up for me
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.3192986]

>>3192959
Of course not. Draw what you want to get better at.

[Anonymous No.3192987]

how the fuck do you draw jeans?

[Anonymous No.3192999]

How do I learn how to shade properly? I spent 40 minutes on this and it isn't remotely close to the actual apple.

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[Anonymous No.3193123]

>>3192653
I did the bluelines, and I deeply appreciate your feedback. Felt like my version came out a lot more stiff and cold, and wasn't sure about the head at all. See what you mean about the tilt, and I agree. Get so focused on attempting perfection, I lose appeal/ character. Thank you very much for your thoughts.

[Anonymous No.3193126]

>>3192987

Bro, that arm. It looks like his legs are way up front and his upper body is flailing behind. Awkward looking.

[Anonymous No.3193133]

>>3193126
tbf the guy who i saw doing this today wasnt exactly very stable on his own feet, but yeah ill fix it up.