/beg/ - THE BEGINNER THREAD

[Anonymous No.3187366]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the Drawthread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make someone proud.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS:

#1)
>screenshot the image and post that instead

#2)
>change camera capture settings to something smaller

#3)
>send to computer and resize in MSPaint

→ →
There's a new (and cleaner) sticky in town! You can see it at:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

TRY TO BE MORE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.

PREVIOUS THREAD: >>3184676

[Anonymous No.3187367]

ESSENTIALS:

>>>/ic/thread/3023643
Links to many art books including as Keys to Drawing (Dodson), Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain (Edwards), Perspective Made Easy (Norling), Color and Light (Gurney), The Vilppu Drawing Manual (Vilppu) and How to Draw (Robertson).

>http://ctrlpaint.com
A website dedicated to understanding the basics and process of digital painting, based in Adobe Photoshop. Library of over 200 free videos.

>http://quickposes.com
Free pose library to practice drawing the human figure (as well as a portrait library). Draw at your own pace or set a timer for quick gesture drawings.

>https://www.youtube.com/user/onairvideo
Croquis Cafe - Timed model poses.

>http://drawabox.com
Controversial yet helpful introductory course on the fundamentals of drawing with a focus on understanding the concept of form and thinking in a 3-dimensional mindset while you draw.

>Your local life drawing class
Life drawing is an indispensable tool in your art career. Do not be intimidated based on your skill level - there will always be someone worse than you and someone better than you. Use this opportunity to meet new artists for learning, critique, and growth.

[Anonymous No.3187376]

I can't fucking think or keep an image in my head of what I'm trying to draw. Help

[Anonymous No.3187418]

>>3187376
Then draw the word

[Anonymous No.3187423]

>tfw OP never choose your art for OP image

[Anonymous No.3187427]

[Anonymous No.3187441]

Wrong fred

[Anonymous No.3187447]

>>3187441
this guy will be better than eric in 3 months. just watch

[Anonymous No.3187449]

>>3187447
who is eric?

[Anonymous No.3187452]

>>3187449
he was here when i started a year and a half ago and hasnt made more than a months worth of gains

[Anonymous No.3187453]

>>3187452
This anon? >>3173094

[Anonymous No.3187455]

>>3187453
yeah that looks like him. funny i think he is branching out into anime

[Anonymous No.3187456]

>>3187453
that is most definitely not eric

t. op who has put him in like 10 op images

[Anonymous No.3187458]

What can I do to not end up like eric?
How do you know his name anyway ?

[Anonymous No.3187461]

>>3187458
actually practice
notoriety

[Anonymous No.3187465]

>>3187461
Practice what

[Anonymous No.3187472]

>>3187465
fundies 6 hours a day

[Anonymous No.3187478]

How do I improve with hair guys? I've tried a lot of theory and references but nothings seems to be really helpful

(Sorry about the scan quality i don't know how to config the scan at the moment)

[Anonymous No.3187491]

>>3187472
>practice fundies 6 hours a day
>can only draw boxes
>can't into appealing drawings
What did /ic/ mean by this?

[Anonymous No.3187494]

>>3187491
Means you're probably drawing for 20 minutes for every hour and not thinking about anything during those 20 minutes.

You're clearly mentally retarded and should quit.

[Anonymous No.3187501]

I'm getting so frustrated with my noses. Can anyone give me some pointers on what I'm doing wrong?

[Anonymous No.3187505]

Starting to practice again, here is a fantasy portrait I did recently.
Going through loomis again to remind me some stuff and strengthen the basics, because without proper basics I basically have to resort to photoshop tricks to hide my shortcomings.
One of my major issues is controlling and understanding when to make the brush softer or harder, any advice on that?

[Anonymous No.3187507]

[Anonymous No.3187511]

>>3187505

Tricks? Like transform/liquify?

[Anonymous No.3187512]

>>3187427

WHERE?!

[Anonymous No.3187514]

>>3187511
Basically everything.
I transform and liquify here and there if I see that I messed up on perspective or form, I try to keep it to a minimum but sometimes I just got to do it. I abuse layer modes to create lighting effects and stuff like ambient occlusion instead of painting it properly and on top of that if things go rough I apply chromatic aberration and a bit of grain to confuse the normie eyes into thinking that it's cool.
I'm back to proper practice, or at least I hope I won't drop it this time, but I also want to improve my digital routine.
I've heard CTRL+Paint is good for learning how to use photoshop well for digital art specifically.

[Anonymous No.3187519]

I need help with clothes. Do you guys know any good guides besides Hogarth?

[Anonymous No.3187526]

>>3187366
Isn't drawing from life a form of copying too? Then why many people advice to not copy other artists and draw from life instead?

[Anonymous No.3187537]

>>3187519
Jack Hamm's Drawing the Head and Figure. I think Hampton's figure drawing book covers clothing a little bit too.

[Anonymous No.3187540]

[Anonymous No.3187548]

>>3187540

bukkake

[Anonymous No.3187551]

>>3187548

[Anonymous No.3187553]

>>3187526
Copying from other artists means you're learning from someone else's interpretation of the world when you should be forming your own, especially as a beginner.

[Anonymous No.3187572]

>>3187478
Try looking at hair as one big shape, like a big weird cube or something. Than make it more and more detailed. OR you can try and draw the "gesture" of the hair. Is there some rhythm in the lines? Are they following one direction? Or are they trying to meet at one point? Try copying that, it might help you grasp the general idea of the hair you want to draw.

[Anonymous No.3187603]

>>3186810
Update.
>>3187507
Love the one on the right

[Anonymous No.3187605]

Practicing with colors and getting that metal texture

[Anonymous No.3187613]

>>3187553
Is it okay to draw from a picture? I can't draw any people in real life.

[Anonymous No.3187614]

>>3187423
>1000 measurements later

I don't know how to shade with copics, I probably should have just used hash lines or stuck with charcoal. Was fun to work on this though, made me realize just how tiny changes in lines can alter expressions quite a bit. Makes me wonder how we can interpret emoticons and other shit as equivalent expressions since they are so absurdly unrealistic.

:^)

[Anonymous No.3187647]

>>3187376
Help, I can't even visualize a box.

[Anonymous No.3187658]

>>3187647
Then give up

[Anonymous No.3187660]

>>3187658
I don't want to do that though.

[Anonymous No.3187666]

>>3187660
Well, if you can't visualize a box then do draw-a-box 250 box challenge. If you want to be a bit autistic about it you can go to sketchfab and look up a cube and use it as a reference of sorts to see how relationships change. That's the gist of pretty much everything if you want to visualize it.

[Anonymous No.3187734]

>>3187366

[Anonymous No.3187787]

why are colours so difficult. i've been sampling colours from movie stills and every green is actually a yellow

[Anonymous No.3187789]

[Anonymous No.3187792]

>>3187787
Relativity as explained in the sticky with the cake

[Anonymous No.3187793]

>>3187792
shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.3187799]

>>3187734
Dunn

[Anonymous No.3187863]

[Anonymous No.3187864]

>>3187789
>>3187863
how long do you spend drawing these? I have a hard time sitting down and drawing without getting distracted after 2-3min

[Anonymous No.3187877]

>>3187864
About 45 minutes give or take but I've been speeding up the more I do. I get tunnel vision when I start something so I don't have the same problem as you, I just had a problem with starting at all

[Anonymous No.3187898]

>>3187501
the ones on the left are pretty good dude!

[Anonymous No.3187909]

https://drawing.today/profile/211
I've never asked for feedback before, I think the path before me is pretty clear.
I'm going to be starting the NMA Eric Olsen perspective course this week.
I've taken some notes from the first few lessons, going to continue on that.
I know what I'm weak with and what I've put off developing so I've just got to approach those walls and push through them.
There's a long path ahead of me but I'm ready to trek through it.
For that reason and the fact that there's not a lot to look over here, I'm not sure why I'm posting this, but I am /beg/ af so perhaps it's worthwhile.
Wish me luck, lads!

[Anonymous No.3187920]

can someone give me some interesting reference?preferably not human

[Anonymous No.3187921]

>>3187909
Good luck bud.

[Anonymous No.3187924]

>>3187920
As requested

[Anonymous No.3187935]

>>3187920

[Anonymous No.3187944]

>>3187920

[Anonymous No.3187946]

[Anonymous No.3187953]

>>3187366
How long do I have to stare at the subject before drawing? Keys to drawing says i should look at the ref more than i look at my paper.

If I do a 1hr sesh, with a break every 15-30min, should I look at the subject for 90% of the time?

[Anonymous No.3187954]

>>3187953

[Anonymous No.3187958]

H E L P M E

[Anonymous No.3187971]

[Anonymous No.3187974]

>>3187954
Sauce?

[Anonymous No.3187982]

>>3187944
what is going on here?

[Anonymous No.3187996]

>>3187982
Looks like a ziptied pigs/cows tongue.

[Anonymous No.3188004]

>>3187971
Lol Thomas Hobbes the og

[Anonymous No.3188027]

HOW THE FUCK DO I DRAW HANDS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.3188034]

>>3188027
I can tell you what not to do, don't read "Drawing the Head and Hands" by Loomis. I read it specifically for that reason and it's 99% drawing the head, I think there's only one or two pages that talks about hands

[Anonymous No.3188035]

>>3187603
Thanks. Yeah, upper body on the left ended up kinda small.

[Anonymous No.3188069]

How do you draw on top of your simplified human construction thing

[Anonymous No.3188077]

Thoughts ? its my first ever completed sketch, i started drawing like 3weeks ago, i used reference from "rose sketch" in google graphics

[Anonymous No.3188089]

>>3187958
next one gave it my best shot but couldn't get the gore right, thanks for the references


Also this wasn't me (>>3187491 >>3187465 I already went to sleep)

[Anonymous No.3188090]

>>3188089
forgot pic

[Anonymous No.3188098]

tried from imagination

[Anonymous No.3188101]

mushy torsos

[Anonymous No.3188102]

>>3188101
also me.

send help

[Anonymous No.3188104]

>>3187366
mushy torsos

[Anonymous No.3188106]

>>3188104

[Anonymous No.3188126]

>>3188098
faggot

[Anonymous No.3188127]

>>3188104
reference?

[Anonymous No.3188152]

>>3188127
Other guy was from imagination.

[Anonymous No.3188153]

I did those 1 minute hand exercises except I took 5 minutes for each because I figured speed isn't the most important skill at my level.

[Anonymous No.3188157]

>>3188152
Where did you get these pictures they seem pretty random

[Anonymous No.3188158]

I've been drawing for a while now, around a year or so. A couple of days a go I wanted to really push myself, and start doing the lines, ellipses, and perspective exercises. On the Scott Robertson book. I want to fill 1000 copy paper with those exercises by mid november.

I'm in day four now, my lines, and my confident with a pen are improving, but I can't help feeling like I'm just wasting time with this stuff. And I can't find time for doing other stuff like art studies, because this taking all my time.

Is this draftsmanship exercises really helpfull? Considering that my main thing is digital art

[Anonymous No.3188160]

>>3188157
No clue. Was just lying around with a bunch of other images I have. Wanted to do torsos and managed upon that.

[Anonymous No.3188167]

>>3188158
As someone who "downgraded" from digital to traditional but still finishes with digital, I find that it's important to have a strong standing in both areas. If anything, it's better to have a good foundation in traditional since it forces you to think about how to approach certain drawings without the use of shortcuts (e.g. undo, filters, etc.). With that said, there's nothing wrong with using shortcuts, but without a decent amount of knowledge to back them up, your works will suffer.

[Anonymous No.3188183]

>>3188153
Sorry not sorry.

[Anonymous No.3188187]

>>3188183
10/10 not even mad

[Anonymous No.3188195]

>>3188106
womes

[Anonymous No.3188206]

>>3187799
not bad anon. id recommend spending some special attention to form/proportions of features without shading/rendering next time.
looks good tho

[Anonymous No.3188215]

what are some ways to make the linework look more natural and less forced? I do use the ctrlz method since I draw with a screenless tablet, and have been for 4 years, but I'm still not happy with it. Advice?

[Anonymous No.3188217]

>>3188215
First you gotta clarify what you mean by "more natural and less forced"

[Anonymous No.3188220]

>>3188215
Post sample of forced linework.

[Anonymous No.3188222]

[Anonymous No.3188240]

>>3187366
Aw shit that's my work in the OP

Am I good yet?

[Anonymous No.3188242]

Am I on the right track?
I usually done portraits, so anatomy and poses are still new to me.

[Anonymous No.3188252]

>>3188242
It's pretty good but the half assed shading throws it off

I would recommend not outlining shadows and just stick with crosshatching only

[Anonymous No.3188254]

>>3188242
work on your hands

[Anonymous No.3188266]

>>3188252
I see what you mean, do you have an example that you could provide me?
Should the shading lines curve or how exactly you imagine it?

This is my current project, I made the lines much more coherant and cleaner.

I have not yet really learned to draw feet. So ignore that...

[Anonymous No.3188268]

ehhhhh

[Anonymous No.3188269]

>>3188266
Something like this is decent.

Not all the lines have to go in the same direction, and they shouldn't.

[Anonymous No.3188273]

>>3188104
>>3188106
These are both really good what learning materials are you using/have you used/how long have you been at this?

[Anonymous No.3188274]

>>3188268
we should just ban style fags from /beg/

[Anonymous No.3188275]

>>3188274
:(

I'm just drawing animu looking shit to practice digital coloring (kind of unsuccessfully) ok

[Anonymous No.3188277]

>>3188275
go back to r9k with your frog girls

[Anonymous No.3188278]

>>3188277
no
thank you for the harsh words though they make me want to get better

[Anonymous No.3188280]

>>3188275
Thats kinda cool, looks like something that could fit into wind waker or something.

[Anonymous No.3188281]

>>3188275
Cute, got a blog?

[Anonymous No.3188286]

>>3187954
what video is that, would like to see that.

[Anonymous No.3188288]

>>3188281
no, but thanks for the interest

[Anonymous No.3188289]

>>3187944

[Anonymous No.3188294]

>>3188266
What are the steps you go through before the finished lines?

[Anonymous No.3188299]

>>3188294

Depends usually allot on what I do, but this one was all freestyle, I drew the torso roughly and loosly and I pretty much just drawn the rest as I went along, sometimes I use construction lines but this time I only placed a few dots, like at the knee and then I just drew the leg.

After that I clean up the entire thing, making the lines more straight, using the eraser to smoothing out the rough spots etc.

I also use flip allot, so to flipp the canvas, to see how it looks when its mirrored.

When I do reference studies I usually just eye it.

However the head construction I always do like in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T7cDY7YDsg

2:30 minute mark.

[Anonymous No.3188320]

>drawing a dog
>couldn't copy his eyes right
>give up and close without saving
I wish I didn't

[Anonymous No.3188327]

Any tips? Im working on fundies so stylization is just for fun.

[Anonymous No.3188328]

>>3188327
Tell me the secrets to reaching your level

[Anonymous No.3188329]

>>3188320
You should alway keep every piece you do, that way you can look back and see your improvements or see your mistakes.
And in the future you can make an improved version of it with your future skills.

Also it can be hillarious.

[Anonymous No.3188332]

>>3188242

The look like drug addicts with big hands. Everything else is pretty good. And yes, you're on the right track.

[Anonymous No.3188338]

>>3188332

Haha, thanks for your input, big hands though?
I always thought the hands I previously drew were waay to small. I kinda place my hand on my face and then try to draw the size of the hand simular to the volume of my hand on my face, so it should be accurate? But now that you mention it, I think if it would be 1/5 or 1/4th smaller it might be better.

[Anonymous No.3188352]

Feel that my execution belonged here instead of in the stylization thread.

> Apparently using fashion photography as reference can be useful
> Jean Shrimpton is a babe and a half.

[Anonymous No.3188371]

hows my ryan gosling?

[Anonymous No.3188375]

>>3188371
there is a good chance that this isnt bait

[Anonymous No.3188381]

>>3188371
Nose, facial form... nostrils, neck... eyes,... you need to draw better these features. And you need to Set on a style, not sure if you went for stylization or realism.

[Anonymous No.3188382]

>>3188375
is that good?

[Anonymous No.3188385]

>>3188381
I just copied a face and tries my best to shade with a pen.

[Anonymous No.3188388]

>>3188382
no

[Anonymous No.3188395]

>>3188385
I see to many mistakes.
What I would recommend is that you tackel one feature at a time.
So that you can understand what is going on with each feature, and can draw them alone, independently.

Pick a feature, say the nose, and then try to draw it from several angles, use many references. Once you mastered the nose, go for another feature, like the eyes. In this case they are rather big.

A pencil is more forgiving, use pen only once you have the final form perfected with pencil, pen should be like the last thing, use pen only if you are really good, which unfortunately you are not as of yet.

Also, judging your skills from looking at your image, I would highly recommend the use of construction guide lines.

If you want to do portraits, look in youtube for

"new masters academy head" its a 3 hour video, really detaliled and would help you greatly.

[Anonymous No.3188398]

>>3188395
Thanks, Ill look into it, again thanks for the help!

[Anonymous No.3188401]

I've been following the guide books and videos and it's all pretty good but all of them assume I have a steady hand and can already draw precise and / or smooth lines. Any tips on how to improve my lineart?

[Anonymous No.3188402]

>all these posts with no criticism on board for critique
why does this thread even exist?

[Anonymous No.3188403]

>>3188401
By drawing

[Anonymous No.3188415]

>>3188401

If you can get your hands on:

"Robotpencil: Improving your line art"

it is a really good video covering just that.

Basically on your first layer you make your design, once done, you lower its opacity to about 30% make a new layer and go with a thinner brush and trace your previous layyer, and try to do swift strokes, the strokes should come towards you, so for instance, from up down towards you. This is refering to digital art,

traditionally, you would use a light pencil, then trace over it with a darker one, or a pen.

[Anonymous No.3188436]

>>3188329
This is good advice.

[Anonymous No.3188448]

>>3188395
>>3188385


>A pencil is more forgiving, use pen only once you have the final form perfected with pencil, pen should be like the last thing, use pen only if you are really good, which unfortunately you are not as of yet.

>Also, judging your skills from looking at your image, I would highly recommend the use of construction guide lines.

No, everyone should start practicing with pen ASAP. Pen makes your mistakes clear and you can't hide it with sketchy scratchy marks. It's better to use Micron ink pen.

It builds line confidence and makes you think before making your strokes. You can use pencil, it's not the "wrong" way to do it. But using pen is better and easier to get what drawing really is all about.

Construction IS THE LAST THING a beginner should think about. Beginners should focus on observation. Get good at observation, get good at copying by sight, get good at analyzing form,shapes, light and dark. And then jump on construction.

You know why a lot of anon here post wonky ass loomis construction? It's because they haven't grasp observation drawing. They rushed and skipped a lot of shit that could've made learning construction A LOT easier.

[Anonymous No.3188453]

>>3188381
how do we get as good as you?

[Anonymous No.3188455]

Started literally just a few days ago. I've been doing a bunch of gesture drawings like this, skipping the hard bits like hands or feet. It's fun because I don't feel any pressure to make them look good, and then at the end the poses are at least recognizable.

[Anonymous No.3188456]

I'm trying to get shit put together for a portfolio for art school. How am I doing so far with this one?

[Anonymous No.3188457]

>>3188453

fuck off

[Anonymous No.3188468]

>>3188448
Isn't form and construction the same thing

[Anonymous No.3188472]

>>3188468

Form is form. Construction is to construct form. Building it out of geometric shapes.

Understanding of form is required for you to construct the form.

[Anonymous No.3188475]

>>3188352
Looks like a jojo character

[Anonymous No.3188477]

>>3188472
So how do you draw form without construction

[Anonymous No.3188482]

How do I measure shit when trying to draw a portrait?

[Anonymous No.3188488]

>>3188477
xerox from reference

[Anonymous No.3188491]

>>3188488
But I don't want to end up like proko

[Anonymous No.3188493]

>>3188455
today I tried to focus a little more on proportions

[Anonymous No.3188494]

>>3188482
>posts anime
yeah gl

[Anonymous No.3188497]

>>3188494
It's just a picture you spaz

[Anonymous No.3188503]

Tried drawing from imagination, what's wrong with it?

[Anonymous No.3188508]

>>3188503
everything

[Anonymous No.3188513]

>>3188508
post your work

[Anonymous No.3188575]

>>3188497
>not knowing the subliminal effects of being surrounded by anime snapshots

[Anonymous No.3188595]

>>3188503

[Anonymous No.3188601]

>>3188595
Sorry my handwriting is so bad that its probably not even helpful. Because I’m on an iPad I didn’t want to type. I’m using voice recognition to make this message please forgive my laziness I’m sorry

[Anonymous No.3188607]

>>3188503
she looks kind of stiff, like she is sitting straight up & rigid, her right leg, seems a bit off, maybe too long and a little off perspective wise. Also that foot seems twisted kind of awkwardly.
The hatching works well with the spots you didn't touch.

Here's another still life, added a background this time. I think these are extremely good practice for beginners, especially for learning observation. Spent about half an hour on it, using a timer helps me not get caught up in so many details or waste hours on one thing.

I think the shape of the top pot is a little fucky and the handle is also off but I'm pretty happy with it overall.

[Anonymous No.3188616]

>>3188456
Try having his expression match the action. For a portfolio the visual story in a piece like this should be clear too, even if simple.

[Anonymous No.3188617]

Try this ref anons...

[Anonymous No.3188618]

>>3188456

[Anonymous No.3188624]

>>3188456
Alt 1

[Anonymous No.3188625]

drapery is such fucking cancer

[Anonymous No.3188626]

What happened to the bara fetishist guy? Haven't seen him post here for a while.

[Anonymous No.3188633]

>>3188456
Alt 2, little better tension

[Anonymous No.3188634]

>>3188624
>>3188616

you're right and I tried to make an angry expression but it kept escaping me. Should I just come back to it later? Change the head to look directly at the person being shot and ignore having to draw the face?

when I did the thumbnail sketch i felt it came out better but i kept changing things to how they are now. I felt like the eyes came off too cartoony when I lined them (which feels like my biggest issue when drawing)

[Anonymous No.3188640]

>>3188634
This one is much closer. I would just have more tension with his eyes perhaps his brows could be down, with his eyes open it looks more like a surprise as he is shooting

[Anonymous No.3188643]

>>3188634
Try to think of the situation. Shooting someone that close, and that messy, would cause you to squint from being startled by the sound or that sort of thing. Even if he’s cold blooded, he should still show an expression that makes sense with the scene, you know. I think you’re doing good if you feel you need to take a break that’s not a bad idea but that’s entirely up to you.

[Anonymous No.3188648]

>>3188634
1

[Anonymous No.3188649]

>>3188634
2

[Anonymous No.3188650]

>>3188624
I'm not the artist, but I think the entire point was that she's so casual and pro that she doesn't even have to look at him. Though her right arm kinda betrays that feeling.

>>3188634
perhaps her arm could be shielding her head?

[Anonymous No.3188651]

>>3188650
You would still have to make it dramatic with the facial expression. One way to exaggerate what you just said would be to have the character look away entirely for example

[Anonymous No.3188658]

>>3188650
Something like this.

[Anonymous No.3188661]

>>3188634
>>3188650
Anyhoo, I’ve got to wind down for bed. Thanks for spending time with me everyone!

[Anonymous No.3188666]

It's been exactly three months and I haven't improved at all.

[Anonymous No.3188667]

>>3188661
thank you for your time anon

[Anonymous No.3188673]

>>3188666
That's bullshit and you deserve to not make it if you feel that way.

[Anonymous No.3188677]

>>3188673
But it's true I can't even draw a head with semi decent features yet. I think if anything improved at all it maybe just be my straight lines and circles but I expected more.

[Anonymous No.3188679]

>>3188677
Well get used to have your expectations be wrong. Now keep drawing heads if you want to get better then.

[Anonymous No.3188680]

>>3187366
How long did it take you before you realized "grinding" was a meme? Gamers trying to turn art into one too when it's not.

[Anonymous No.3188683]

tried my hand at some 90-second pose drawings, but I feel like I'm doing something wrong. is there any stuff in particular i should be focusing on?
not necessarily looking for critique on these drawings, but rather technique when doing quick drawings

[Anonymous No.3188685]

>>3188680
Grinding in video games don't require thought. Doing a lot of studies in art means questioning everything you do and can be mentally taxing for a lot of people (especially the ones in this thread). I think that's why people give it up because they underestimate what it takes to actually improve.

[Anonymous No.3188729]

No book I've read ever mentioned that the Iris is roughly half the size of the entire eyeball. I've always struggled to understand just how big the eyeball is under the skin and for some reason I struggled to get a definitive answer to this question because I tried googling wrong (as an artist) or looking through books.

I finally decided to just be smart about this and asking how big the two of these entities are on average and the eyeball is roughly 2.4 centimeters and the iris is roughly 1.2.

[Anonymous No.3188733]

>>3188683
Mm, my personal opinion is you should speed up. Seems you're working too slow. too many lines are gone over more than once.

Try capturing the action of the figure in 10 seconds. Do that for a good while. Then do 30 seconds, make sure you leave out no body part, but you can cheat hands and feet a bit, still put importance on action (lines in space) form doesnt' have to be perfect or detailed at all.

THEN when you move to 90 seconds you should be able to do a fairly detailed gstures, with some finer points (not as fine as if you were really tring to draw, like not fingernails and etc.. but you know what I mean, a more complex gestures.) 90 seconds will at times feel like SO much time to do a gesture that you find yourself looking for things to do after you finish the main gesture, since you're used to do 30's etc.

Also do a session or two where you focus on specific body parts. 90 secs for a detail, ,30 secs for a general shape/action feel. Etc. 10 secs really isn't useful, perhaps for just a body part though.

I'm assming you're using pose maniacs or something like that, so you can keep doing one after another.

Another cool think is if you do gestures for like an hour, you'll be able to draw pretty realistic figures right out of yoru head for a short time afterwards.

Perhaps if you keep it up that 'short time' becomes long term memory. I really should have kept up this practice longer to see if that would happen.. who knows. Anyhoo. I'll show you some examples from my 2015 sketchbook (cause that's where I see some.) These are ms paint I think. The first sheet will be more quicker ones time-wise it looks like.

[Anonymous No.3188736]

>>3188683
I apparently have a lot of these.

[Anonymous No.3188738]

>>3188683
These might be slower ones, because of the detail.

[Anonymous No.3188739]

>>3188733
>>3188736
How do I draw like this

[Anonymous No.3188745]

>>3188683
So all those I showed you were from my 2015 folder, and here is an example of me doing poses with no reference (from the same folder), but I did these RIGHT AFTER a gesture drawing session with posemaniacs, pretty sure. Normally I wouldn't do gestures this good just from my head, without a warmup, at least I think so.

[Anonymous No.3188747]

>>3188739
Gestures are just mileage. That's the great thing about them. they don't really take great amount of learning.

You just do them a lot. Do 20 mins to half hour a day on posemaniacs, try to get the whole figure even if it's just a scribble, like I said in the other post, what helps me, is starting 'too fast' and then slowing down the clock. Try to capture the whole post first, don't worry about details.

Then when you get really good you can even think about perspective and stuff, which in none of these examples I put up, did I really do.

With gestures you don't actually have to worry about it, but still. That's probably something I should do.

That's why these are from 2015, I haven't done them much in the last few years, you might have inspired me to take up the practice again.

Or whoever made that post about gestures.

[Anonymous No.3188749]

>>3188733
thanks for the advice, I'll try working in shorter periods for now.
so it should be important to sort of feel out the motion of the pose first? I tend to get caught up in getting the proportions right, so when my lines don't come out the way i want them to I end up drawing a ton of them, as evidenced in my sketches

[Anonymous No.3188750]

>>3188749
Yah, definitely worth trying. Just try to capture the directions in space first. The direction of the body bending in space, then the head, limbs, etc.

You don't have to work on the core first, but it might help you at first.

You can do it as a form, or just as a line through space, whatever you have time for.

Even if you just scribbled lines. You'll notice I even did stick figures sometimes, when I only had 5 or 10 seconds or whatever.

Just capture the pose, you don't even have to think about it, even if it's not 'in space' whatever, just do whatever you can, and turn off your critical mind.

You can make critical decisions that can improve your models after. In between sessions. Just draw freely for a while. Loosen up.

Take a look at my drawings, some look good, lots look crap. Don' t worry about it.

[Anonymous No.3188752]

[Anonymous No.3188753]

>>3188749
Missed answering the second thing you said, sorry about that: Yes, don't pet your lines. It's not really the best habit even when you're doing normal drawing vs. gestures, but some people are okay with it, or whatever, so I'll ignore that advice and just say that for GESTURE, I definitely feel you're better off using one line, and if it's not the line you wan't, forget about it and move on, just keep drawing.

More lines = more wasted time. Try to be economic with your lines.

Even if you draw 'slower' to make more accurate lines (because you're using only 1) it should still save you time compared to going over something more than once.

This advice comes not just from me, but I'm positive I read it from some famous animation teacher or somethign.. can't think of his name but it was good stuff. Gesture drawing for animation, or something like that, might be the book written by that dude.

[Anonymous No.3188754]

>>3188752
Cool, nice values.

[Anonymous No.3188755]

>>3188752
saved for /pol/ posting

[Anonymous No.3188758]

>>3188749
I remember the name now, it's Stanchfield

Anyway, Night!

[Anonymous No.3188759]

>>3188749
Oh yah, also you're welcome. Didn't reply to the thanks either. Sheesh, my bad. Night for reals this time XD nn~

[Anonymous No.3188760]

>>3188750
>>3188753
>>3188758
>>3188759
guess I'll practice some more then
good night helpful anon

[Anonymous No.3188761]

one of the types that draw whenever I feel like it (so one every couple months). So I would say I am pretty new as in I never really established my drawing skills. Decided to draw a sidesword, lemme know what you think.

[Anonymous No.3188764]

>>3188761
Draw it on proper paper and apply some lighting/shadows and this'd look quite nice

[Anonymous No.3188766]

>>3188760
Go get Micheal Hamptons book from the book thread and read the first chapter.

[Anonymous No.3188773]

>>3188766
I may be blind or something but I can't find a book by him in that thread, just a series of videos.

[Anonymous No.3188777]

>>3187366
hi what do you think of my art?

[Anonymous No.3188778]

>>3188777
I think it's great, have a look friend

[Anonymous No.3188780]

>>3188777
more from me, same style.

[Anonymous No.3188781]

>>3188780

[Anonymous No.3188783]

>>3188781
I think this is my best one

[Anonymous No.3188784]

>>3188777
I like your work, i've been working on my faces.
Tell me what you think.

[Anonymous No.3188785]

>>3188773
Found it through googling "michael hampton pdf".

[Anonymous No.3188786]

>>3188784
That's a nice shrek, i like the face.
Reminds me of Goblin

[Anonymous No.3188787]

>>3188786
thank you i also drew donkey

[Anonymous No.3188790]

>>3188787
it's nice, what you think of mine?

>>3188781

[Anonymous No.3188791]

>>3188783
that's a good picture of Axl rose, i drew one aswell.

[Anonymous No.3188792]

>>3188778
i made your superman more suggestible to his legs

[Anonymous No.3188793]

>>3188785
found it as well. looks like a good resource, I'll give it a read soon. thanks!

[Anonymous No.3188808]

guys, i can't take it anymore. i've been trying to draw faces this past month, and i can't keep up with the same fucking thing every day. i need to switch to fruit, or cute anime girls, or something.

[Anonymous No.3188811]

>>3188777
>>3188778
>>3188780
>>3188781
>>3188783
>>3188784
>>3188787
>>3188791
>>3188792
You're better than this, please use your time wisely. Also nice trips


>>3188808
post em B

[Anonymous No.3188825]

thoughts?

[Anonymous No.3188869]

I don't want to go outside, has anyone gotten decent just by studying pictures

[Anonymous No.3188870]

>>3188869
Never.

[Anonymous No.3188874]

>>3188869
Draw the stuff inside your home

[Anonymous No.3188875]

>>3188874
But that's boring, what am I learning from drawing those.

[Anonymous No.3188880]

>>3188875
Essential geometry, don't make light of it.

[Anonymous No.3188892]

>>3188875

In that case look for high resolution images with good light quality.

or go to this site for 3D models

https://sketchfab.com/models/de3de362d8e946d991dbfc4a2e23c16e

[Anonymous No.3188895]

>>3188892
I'm gonna have to do this I guess because there's no figure drawing classes where I live.

[Anonymous No.3188899]

>>3188448

I disagree with this when speaking about beginners.

Your approach is like the artists before the renaissance, and you can see how bad those ones are.

Even the Master Kim Jung Gi started with pencil, then went over it with ink, but with time he developed a natural feel of how persepctive and form should look like and could do them without guild and construction lines.

Observation is good, but again if you are a beginner, that is a really rough and discouraging method of getting better.

Too much information that one does not have yet aquired trying to draw like that will result in slow progress.

With construction lines you can at least get porportions and angles right and where features are suppossed to be placed.

Once one gets more advanced, then I can agree with you. When one has a basic feel for how things should look like.

And with pen, doing a single mistake could potentially ruin the piece and ruin confidence/motivation, while with pencil you can undo those mistakes, and keep at it untill you feel you got the entire design down as you wanted it, then go over it with pen.

[Anonymous No.3188901]

>>3188895

You can also try this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy1rwangC3k

You can try to do the minute poses, which is good training, but you can also just pause the video, the images are pretty good.

[Anonymous No.3188909]

>>3188899

even peter han dynamic bible encourage using pen. and his learning course is as technical as you can get.

[Anonymous No.3188942]

I never actually makes posts here, mostly just lurk. Mostly because all I ever do is doodle, and never really feel like contributing (either in discussion or in content). All I really wanted to say is while there's a lot wrong with my finished product, actually going further along with one piece (perhaps not to completion) was one of the best experiences I've had with drawing so far.

The reason I started doodling and drawing was because I enjoyed the ability to express creativity and pass the time. When I was just going through the motions, practicing the same things repeatedly it was never satisfying, even if I felt I got the exercise just right. Being able to look at something that I've actually put time into makes it a lot easier to appreciate the mistakes I've made, and what can be improved and fixed later. Not trying to teach a lesson or anything, just trying to say make sure you're enjoying your art, and creating things that matter to you.

[Anonymous No.3188957]

This is bound to be a dumb question, but when measuring angles with my pencil, how the hell can I transfer that angle to paper without losing the angle of the pencil? Otherwise the angle turns out wrong. I've been working on holding the pencil the "right way" and not the "writing" way. And ugh. I don't know how to do this shit correctly and it's very frustrating.

[Anonymous No.3188959]

[Anonymous No.3188962]

>>3188595
>>3188601
No that really helps a lot, thanks!

[Anonymous No.3188970]

>>3187789
>>3187863
This is very good, I don't understand why you make the eyes look all goofy each time but the rest is very nice.

[Anonymous No.3188971]

>>3188183
Fucking golden. This needs to be saved

[Anonymous No.3188975]

>>3188959
challenge yourself and do a different angle.

[Anonymous No.3188977]

>>3188617
i tried... this angle is confusing. can any good anon construct the head?

[Anonymous No.3188978]

Fuck you I do abstract.

[Anonymous No.3188982]

>>3188978
Nah actually I'm just shite
Look at this srsly. I mean the egg shaped head was what I was going for. I thought it looked interesting.

[Anonymous No.3188983]

>>3188982
This tree is probably the best drawing I ever made. Is there still a light at the end of the tunnel guys?

[Anonymous No.3188988]

>>3188983
You have yet to enter the tunnel.

[Anonymous No.3188990]

>>3188988
Oh shit.

[Anonymous No.3188992]

How do I come up with something to draw

[Anonymous No.3188994]

so this is what it ended up looking like after some trial and error

[Anonymous No.3189027]

>>3187367
I highly recommend signing up to quickposes if you want to start drawing every day. Doing gestures as warm up is great and the site tracks the time you use it and gives you achievements, it's nice seeing the counter go up.

[Anonymous No.3189032]

>>3188957
You use the pencil to find the angle, "looks like 35 degrees" and then you replicate that on your paper. You're don't have to move the pencil with the angle in tact.

It doesn't need to actually be 35 degrees, as long as you're consistent in your measurement and the replication.

[Anonymous No.3189036]

>>3188992
Draw fanart of Billy Pilgrim getting stuck in a zoo on Tralfamadore while the Tralfamadorians are busy watching the Earth in the Cats Cradle version of Earth is getting iced and that transdimensional faggot Rumfoord is busy spiritually reconnecting with the chrono-synclastic infundibulum and Rick and Morty arrive in front of the Doctor's blue box only for Rick's portal gun to get disabled by the Doctor's screwdriver only for the Master to show up and hyponotise everyone only for the Infinite Improbability Drive to land underneath them causing a rift to open up in space and time resulting in the Citadel in Rick and Morty's universe to collide with the Citadel in Doctor Who, meanwhile on alternate Earth Shinji is trying to get in the fucking robot and failing and ends up stuck in episode 23 for real until the conceptual meme entity from PKD's novel the Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch appears and infects his mind giving him psychological contamination that is only redeemed by Hei from Darker than black inverting someone's shoes as a result of performing his Obeisance due to nihilism and the chronically unending influence that Arkady Strugatsky's Roadside Picnic has on the novel.

Meanwhile Karellen from Childhood's end is fapping to the whole thing but it is interrupted by Spike Spiegel appearing on a mission to take down Vicious for the second time but unfortunately the pandimensional mice are taking over the entire ship and are more powerful than a level five Esper and are twice as difficult to get rid of as the Gizka from the Ebon Hawk.

Anakin Skywalker has submitted an application to change his name into Anakin Loomiswalker.

[Anonymous No.3189037]

>>3188942
Truth.

[Anonymous No.3189044]

>>3187507

Study proportions more, they're off here. Most notably the size of the torso compared to the legs.

>>3187605

Lines look weird. Like you drew them too thick in areas and erased after to compensate. Not sure if you should do this, think it's a bad habit unless you have a lot of control over your lines.

>>3187799

Eyes are too close and you are ignoring the far side of the jaw in your drawings. More attention to structure.

>>3188098

Draw though you forms, study proportion more. Understand overlapping of forms. Read M. Hampton's book if you don't know what I'm talking about.

[Anonymous No.3189047]

>>3188975

[Anonymous No.3189051]

This is legitimately my first time browsing this board or posting anything. The last time I tried to draw some seriously was back in primary school and when I was around 12-14.
I know this has probably been said so many times, but everyone I see here seems like some top-notch artist, even in this thread.
How many hours do you put in to git gud? Anyway this is my first drawing in a long time, without any sort of training beforehand.

[Anonymous No.3189067]

>>3189051
Less than one hour usually but once I drew the entire day, finished up a painting in the morning, drew six poses and then I watched a Krenz lecture and drew five silly fanfic illustrations from 50% imagination in the four value scale and one colour, about one and a half hours each, by the time I finished it was 2 am.

I've been drawing since I was 6, put some effort to draw from life 3 years ago and only tried to grind poses properly this year. It's not really drawing that matters but efficient and frequent quality practice with the aim of not burning out.

[Anonymous No.3189081]

>>3188962
'm glad, thanks, you're welcome

[Anonymous No.3189087]

I find that I can get a reasonable amount of accuracy in my drawings, but only after a LOT of erasing and redrawing. Is this something that'll lessen over time or am I getting myself into a bad habit?

[Anonymous No.3189089]

>>3189051
If you learn smartly, you can put in way less hours and get the same results.

Practice basic perspective (boring or not) a little bit every time you do some drawing practicing, and you will learn as much in 2 years as some people learn in 8 or more.

Learning to draw is not the same as learning a subject (like anatomy) and this is a huge mistake people make when learning to draw (it's a mistake I made too.) Learn to draw first.

Learning to draw means learning perspective. Also you can pay attention to what makes stuff look good when rendered. (Contrasts, thick vs. thin, long vs short, curve vs straight, etc.) just to have it in your head, even if you can't use it yet.

This is the stuff of art. Subject is just learning, or reference, or both.

So the perfect practice for a beginner might go something like this 20 - 30 minutes practice basic perspective like cubes etc. 20 - 30 minutes drawing to draw ANYthing in perspective, and 10 - 15 minutes learning something about an object. (Like the shape of an eye, or a single fact about a hand, or something.) and drawing it once or twice, not taking it too seriously.

Kim Jung Gi levels of perspectve are accomplished by him doing the construction work in his head, or with ghosting, or a combination of the two, he also uses lines he puts down on his actual drawings as guides.

So learning to draw with perspective guides is super helpful.

Once you get good with using guides, you can practice doing some of that work in your head and skipping them. But don't do that right away or your work will be slop.

Even jung gi's perspective isn't 'right' it just looks right enough to the eye that it doesn't matter.

Try for more rightness in the beginning, just to get the principals drilled into your head.

Best of luck, and God Bless!

[Anonymous No.3189090]

>>3189087
It gets better over time, I drew like a retard the first time I came here

[Anonymous No.3189095]

>>3189087
It will lessen, but what will help that along a lot is if you use guides to help you line things up. You don't have to use them for life, but you should use them for a long time.

And even when you stop drawing them on the page, you're still comparing one thing to another, and you still might 'ghost' the guide lines to help you, or etc. you're doing the same work, just not on the paper.

Compare, contrast, then draw. Know where you want your line to go, then focus on making it go there.

Accuracy is patience.

And yah, it helps to accept where you are, accept the fact that you have to re do some things, many times, and you'll enjoy making art more, you'll understand it's okay to be who and where you are.

Some people may have to accept that correcting accuracy is just a part of art, for their whole lives, for all I know. One key to enjoying the process of making art, is to just accept the process as it is, not how you wish it would be. be happy with where you are and do your best.

Enjoy learning, but also enjoy producing with how you can for the time being. Because the learning probably doesn't ever stop anyway, just accept it now, early on, that you'll never be perfect and learn to enjoy what you can do with what you know, and to enjoy improving by learning, perhaps.

[Anonymous No.3189097]

>>3189090
>>3189095
My goodness, thank you so much for the swift replies. I guess it's silly to think that I could just immediately produce the perfect construction every time I put my pencil down, so I'll accept having to redraw multiple times for now.

[Anonymous No.3189101]

>>3189097
Thanks, that's a great and humble answer. I'm not a beg, but I come here to help people because I enjoy it. I'm glad you listened, cause that's a lesson I had to learn too and if you can learn it right away that makes you amazing.

Yah, learning to accept and therefore enjoy, what you can already do, is a big deal. You can still learn and be happy with what you're able to do currently.

Anyway, you're welcome.

[Anonymous No.3189164]

Greetings /beg/. This is my first time posting my work on /ic/ or anywhere for that matter. Im a nurse and typically practice my drawing on lunch breaks for about 30 minutes a day with sometimes a saturday afternoon to finish something Im excited about. I prefer pen and rarely use pencil guidelines as I believe every mistake is a lesson to be revisited. I do exercises from Guptill's "rendering in pen and ink" but aside from that I enjoy practicing by emulating works I like. Pic related my subject was taken from a tattoo I found online. I don't have a scanner so I'm uploading pics I took of the little sketch book I carry around. I hope my lines are are clear enough in the pic.

[Anonymous No.3189242]

How would I go about drawing a piece with no horizon line in the perspective? I'm trying to draw a guy heading down into a deep cave/sinkhole from the top, so essentially going down into the inside of a cylinder. Never tried this angle before so I don't really know how to tackle this

[Anonymous No.3189245]

last time i did a female so now ill do bulky big guy (for you) so that not all my characters look the same. will post you guys the lineart before colouring coz you know your shit

[Anonymous No.3189247]

>>3189164
BE MY GF

[Anonymous No.3189253]

>>3189242
1 point perspective

[Anonymous No.3189257]

>>3189164
post the tattoo you copied? It'd be easier for people to give feedback if we could see the original as well. Also it would help to use pencils but I completely relate to where you're coming from by preferring pens, but in the long run it would definitely help to push those feelings to the side. Though if you're just gonna do it casually and as a hobby exclusively then don't let /ic/ tell you how to live your life.

[Anonymous No.3189279]

how is the anatomy?

[Anonymous No.3189287]

>>3189279
can't tell if it's the camera or what but the thighs don't seem to be the same size. the ankle on the bottom leg goes on way too far in both directions so shorten those lines a little. I think the torso looks really good personally, but the underwear area seems a little too long. Maybe it's just me though, but I have a lot of trouble with that area anyways so I might just be blowing smoke. The shoulder on the lower arm is kind of off too. The line that the nipple sits above is supposed to sort of glide onto the shoulder and become the bottom line for the shoulder as well.

[Anonymous No.3189335]

halp what i can fix of my lineart? im trying to draw winston from overwatch

also last time people said stuff about foundation so i didnt start colouring yet

[Anonymous No.3189342]

>>3189242
Isn't the horizon just an abstraction? Not literally THE horizon, where earth meets sky. It would still be in the middle

[Anonymous No.3189343]

>>3189335
Damn how do I get line art like you?

[Anonymous No.3189357]

>>3188475
Yup! It was Araki's style I was trying to go for. Basically took the model's proportions and applied his way of representing the features.

[Anonymous No.3189367]

>>3189343
idk just do shit.. heres the alternative but idk if i should expand this into a bigger picture. its not cleaned yet

[Anonymous No.3189380]

>>3189287
Re-uploading with fixed angle and resized pictures with some floating heads as well. Maybe it will help make easier to critique/comment. But I know I DO suck on legs. I usually focus too much on torso. The figure turned kinda messy because I didn't have a decent model (model was wearing clothes)

I have a few questions:
>How I practice separated body parts? Draw them over and over again in the same angle?

>Anyone know a male equivalent to senshistock? Her photos are good reference, but very limited on males pictures. I keep searching for a gallery with males models (in underwear or nude, I don't care). I tried using google pictures, but all photos from males I get are in suits or with clothes that don't allow to see muscles, etc.

Especially the second one, if someone can answer, please do.

[Anonymous No.3189381]

[Anonymous No.3189382]

>>3189367
short update.. going better or worse?

[Anonymous No.3189392]

[Anonymous No.3189397]

>>3189382
shit looks like it's out of focus

[Anonymous No.3189410]

>>3189397
ill probably ditch the sidepotrait and do an action pose, you probably had a point with there being no focus

[Anonymous No.3189511]

I tried drawing this face again.

any feedback appreciated, i'm struggling with the shading/different line thicknesses

[Anonymous No.3189512]

>>3189511
Eyes are way too small is the first thing I notice

[Anonymous No.3189514]

>>3189512
>>3189511
or the head is too wide.

or both

[Anonymous No.3189515]

>>3189512
this is what i was following should add

[Anonymous No.3189517]

>>3189515
Notice how far the eyes are from the edge of the face and how big they are in your reference. Now compare to yours.

[Anonymous No.3189524]

is it ok if I start learning with a tablet and computer instead of pencil and paper?

[Anonymous No.3189527]

>>3189524
It's generally not recommended by most people. Learning fundies is easier to do traditionally. Do what you want though, no one's gonna force you.

[Anonymous No.3189530]

I'm trying to work on sighting proportions correctly. Is it a bad idea to try the same pose multiple times, as opposed to finding a new pose to draw each time? Put another way: is there anything wrong with drawing the same post until I get it 'right'?

I'm worried I would be teaching myself to just do the one pose, or start taking shortcuts because I've already done that pose.

[Anonymous No.3189543]

how is this?

[big heads t-rex arms guy No.3189544]

how are these two?

[Anonymous No.3189546]

>>3189511
>>3189515
Wow, you made the exact same mistakes you did the first time. Great precision, horrible accuracy

[Anonymous No.3189552]

>>3189544

stiff

[Anonymous No.3189559]

I keep drawing the dude from the portrait reference thread OP.

[Anonymous No.3189568]

>>3189559
Also giving drawing figures a shot. So far I've focused almost entirely on faces.

[Anonymous No.3189576]

>>3189568
it shows. your faces are not /beg/. your figures seem to be

[Anonymous No.3189577]

first time drawing a scene from imagination
how edgy is this

[Anonymous No.3189580]

>>3189568

Is this from a ref? ref that covers the body is really hard to draw for beginner. It's hard to imagine the structure of the body underneath the cloth.

Practice on nude or semi nude models. If you can't handle it just something that shows the form of the body.

[Anonymous No.3189584]

>>3189576
Word, I'll take a break from faces for a while.
>>3189580
It was a reference photo, I will go for nude from now on. Cheers.

[Anonymous No.3189586]

How do I better control the size of my drawing? I meant to go across the entire page, but I think I ended up just matching the size of the reference image on my screen

[Anonymous No.3189588]

>>3188206
>>3189044
Thanks for the feedback, FWIW I am focusing on rendering right now as I want to get it to a place where I'm comfortable finishing pieces. Not finishing stuff is not doing my confidence any favors.

[Anonymous No.3189589]

I don't know

[Anonymous No.3189591]

Why is drawing so mysterious and hard

[Anonymous No.3189616]

>>3189559
What's the point of a mid tone if you're not even going to use it

[Anonymous No.3189620]

>>3189586
mark the highest and lowest points of what you're drawing on your page before you start, then mark the width of the subject proportionally to the height

[Anonymous No.3189633]

I feel i am stuck, any advices?

[Anonymous No.3189635]

How can i improve my faces?

[Anonymous No.3189636]

>>3188617
wip. thanks for the ref

[Anonymous No.3189640]

>>3189635
All your stuff that isn't in a 3/4 view looks deformed so work on that I suppose

[Anonymous No.3189657]

https://youtu.be/zjxcAaOQvjY

[Anonymous No.3189664]

>>3189380
for separate body parts, charles bargue exercises might help you out. for male pictures, go to /fit.

>>3189511
head width too big, her cheeks/chin are supposed to slope inwards.

>>3189544
nice but the girl's face is deformed, right eye shouldn't be that big and you should still be able to see more of the left eye. lips don't match the angle either. if her head is tilted downwards, the ear should be higher up, to her brow bone.

>>3189633
nose too far from mouth, mouth too close to chin

>>3189635
sinix drawing faces from any angle

>>3189586
construction??

[Anonymous No.3189687]

>>3189242
There's always a horizon line. It's just the eyeline, the level of the eye/lense.

Like someone told you, 1 point could do it, but there will still be a horizon line. Things rendered below that line with tend to curve one way and things above will tend to curve the other.

[Anonymous No.3189700]

>>3188667
You're welcome. :)

[Anonymous No.3189758]

>>3187898
Those are obviously his references
Not him just saying

[Anonymous No.3189762]

>>3189758
i want to go to parties with you

[Anonymous No.3189767]

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[Anonymous No.3189895]

>>3189635
Raius?

[Anonymous No.3190010]

>>3189616
please expand on that