/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.3179774]

DRAW THREAD the "True Descendent of DRAW THREAD Lineage" Edition, not to be confused with the other """""draw thread""""" currently up. You fascist fucks! There are rules!

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[Anonymous No.3179961]

[Anonymous No.3180407]

[Anonymous No.3180417]

[Anonymous No.3180425]

>>3180417
sick. perspective on the tire profile look a little odd. sort of flat, or like it's getting smaller on one side.

[Anonymous No.3180438]

>>3179961
I love the colours on this

[Anonymous No.3180451]

am I still doing a symbol of drawing?

[Anonymous No.3180478]

>>3180451
Sry, i supposed post this on /beg/

[Anonymous No.3180501]

>>3180425
Thanks, Its probobly my linework i need to fix. all of these have a 3d base

[Anonymous No.3180505]

>>3180501
What program are you modeling in? The 3D base and lineart create a nice final product, by the way.

[Anonymous No.3180548]

[Anonymous No.3180551]

>>3180501
>3d base

suddenly your work is a lot less impressive to me

[Anonymous No.3180572]

>>3180438
Hey thanks so much :)

>>3180407
>>3180417
>>3180548
Draw thread looking great this afternoon, keep up the good work guys!

[Anonymous No.3180583]

>>3180505
I'm modelling in maya, but alot of it is kitbash.
the guy is posed in daz3d and a quick little marvelous designer ontop of that. The thing is rendered in keyshot but as you can see it still needs alot of work. this is the render for the OP.

[Anonymous No.3180589]

am i autistic?

[Anonymous No.3180618]

Was told back in September to move on over to Draw Thread. Fucking +3 weeks of little to no drawing because of home renovations got me rusty but I'm kind of back at it.

Why the fuck is actually coming up with drawing something so hard. I still haven't gotten through Vilppu manual, I'm on chapter 7. But idk, I feel mentally lost.

Sorry for borderline Porn-thread image.

>https://imgur.com/gallery/wo30l These were my previous figures

[Anonymous No.3180620]

>>3180618
These 3 godawful drawings were done in a span of 2 hours combined. No planning, just tried to draw some character pinup. I still haven't done anatomy and just got on drawing the skull

[Pete No.3180621]

[Anonymous No.3180638]

How to control edges with just one layer? Somehow it managed to look both belaboured and unfinished.

[Anonymous No.3180644]

>>3180620
Should I start doing those long, +3 hours digital master studies that everyone else does?

[Anonymous No.3180645]

>>3180644

[Anonymous No.3180789]

>>3180638
i thought it was Saber until i saw Joestar tattoo, i'm confused.

[Anonymous No.3180819]

>>3180638

[Anonymous No.3180866]

autistic am i ?

[Anonymous No.3180870]

>>3180866
MODS

[Anonymous No.3180926]

POST IN THE PROPER FUCKING THREADS

>>3180407
>>3180417
>>3180425
>>3180451
>>3180618
>>3180638
>>3180644
>>>>/beg/

>>3180866
>>3180548
>>>/ALT STYL/

[Anonymous No.3180927]

>>3180926
Can you actually fuck off buddy? People are posting art for a critique who the fuck cares which threads they are posting in.

[Anonymous No.3180931]

>>3180927
>giving bait a (You)

my guy..

[Anonymous No.3180940]

>>3180927
I fucking care. It's like going on pixiv expecting lolicons and then seeing half a thousand pictures of naked old men. There is a reason why we have separate threads. If I wanted to look at shit art I'd click the /beg/ thread.

[Anonymous No.3180942]

>>3180940

Maybe you shouldn't be on 4chan if you don't want to see shit art, pal.

[Anonymous No.3181016]

[Anonymous No.3181019]

>>3181016
Looks nice from the thumbnail. Wish the lines were less hairier, though. Digging it overall.

[Anonymous No.3181025]

>>3181019
>Looks nice from the thumbnail. Wish the lines were less hairier, though. Digging it overall.
Thank you. The ink is hard.

[Anonymous No.3181102]

[Anonymous No.3181233]

>model is wearing black shorts
>photoset's BW levels make it hard to read anything in the crotch area
Still fun, though.

[Anonymous No.3181239]

>>3181025
>>3181016
>>3180407
i really like these. from life i'm guessing?

[Anonymous No.3181265]

>>3179774

[Anonymous No.3181372]

ink sketches from work.

[Anonymous No.3181375]

>>3179961
This is a charming design and as the other anon said, nice colors. Where are you taking this picture? Is it just a simple design or will it be a full illustration?

[Anonymous No.3181381]

This is almost finished. I still have touch ups to do and then texture everything to look like a real photo

[Anonymous No.3181382]

>>3181381
I'm a bitch...

[Anonymous No.3181386]

>>3181382
>that tangent at the shoes with the border

[Anonymous No.3181387]

>>3181375
Just the simple design. The lineart is from an inktober thing I did. Then I scanned it and slapped some quick colors on it.

[Anonymous No.3181392]

Fffrustration

[Anonymous No.3181409]

>>3181239
From life. Right.
More stuff in my blog.
http://shevelevandrew.tumblr.com/

[Anonymous No.3181527]

[Anonymous No.3181572]

Reposting >>3181292 from last thread, in short: help me pick some better legs, if that's possible and/or necessary.

[Anonymous No.3181573]

>>3181372
bottom left is nice dude

[Anonymous No.3181597]

woops posted last one in abandoned thread , i dont like how I did lips on this one

>>3181474

hope this links the post Im new

[Anonymous No.3181599]

>>3181597
Very nice, dude. Don't you have homework to do though?

[Anonymous No.3181603]

>>3180501
>all of these have a 3d base
Into the trash it goes.

[Anonymous No.3181606]

>>3181599
That wsa last week my bro ! didnt manage to do all 21 , but they didnt roast me too much , back to digital is so comfy :D

[Anonymous No.3181631]

>>3181572
I would keep the legs, I think this looks so cool, very dynamic. Sorry if that's not very helpful, though

[Anonymous No.3181639]

Hope I'm posting in the right place now. Slightly changed, work in progress study, Things I can see that are wrong are asymmetrical eyes/feeling of general wonkyness, values seems off to me, also struggling with how to draw eyebrows, and it just doesn't look enough like the reference especially when I zoom right out

[Anonymous No.3181641]

the reference

[Anonymous No.3181650]

>>3181631
Thanks anon, it actually is helpful. If it's working in the eyes of someone else, it works for me and lets me move on without remorse.

[Anonymous No.3181654]

>>3180572
Thanks

>>3181381
I reaqlly like this. However I feel her left side of the face is too contrasted, try to add some highlight to her eyebrow for example. Also add some drop and oclussion shadow behing the music sheet it looks too plain atm

<Following a Dongjun tutorial

[Anonymous No.3181721]

>>3179774

[Anonymous No.3181724]

>>3181721

[Anonymous No.3181725]

[Anonymous No.3181763]

Client told me that he wants something like Ayvazovsky + monk by the sea

[the great muttsby No.3181824]

>>3181654

Nice

[Anonymous No.3181848]

>>3179774
Currently writing a script for a graphic novel. It's about the mouse universe experiments only being done to a bunch of sentient anthropomorphic mice. Basically they all live in a 20 mile enclosure and work is more or less centered around trying to escape an inescapable land. The few that know there is no escape lie and rule over the population just to keep their will going.

[Anonymous No.3181852]

>>3181848
Wrong thread srry

[Anonymous No.3181922]

How unacceptable is this?

[Anonymous No.3181995]

>>3179774
First thing I've drawn in 2 years. It's okay, but I'm intent on using ink only (shitty ballpoints) since it's inktober. So no pencil undersketches here.

My question is: should I finish this sketch? And if I do, should I glue a piece of paper over the largest closed flower, and redraw it smaller because I fucked up?
Or should I just leave it, and continue on to something else since these are just sketches.

[Anonymous No.3182016]

>>3181409
And some painting study

[Anonymous No.3182023]

>>3182016
Love those hue shifts of the face and the bluer tones past the neck.

[Anonymous No.3182233]

Which looks better, black and white or...

[Anonymous No.3182234]

...color?

Also, is there a better way to process lineart than to select color range and delete the selection? It leaves annoying white space around my lines

[Anonymous No.3182281]

>>3182233
>>3182234
I really really really like the BW one, but I also see how you could get something great out of your style in colors if you happen to find a way to make it work. Where you're at right now I prefer BW, but don't give up on figuring out the colored style.

[Anonymous No.3182303]

>>3181824
Thanks, I deviated a lot again but I feel I learned quite a bit

>>3181995
I would try to finish if only to give more depth to the plant and of course practice,

>>3182016
nice brush economy, I feel her clavicle could be more v shaped though, also her right iris is a bit too "tall" but overall I really like it. I really wish I had the space and time to do traditional stuff

[Anonymous No.3182309]

>>3182234
For the colored version, I think you should try making the color in the shadowed areas different. Maybe a little darker, a little bit of a different hue. Or perhaps even just a different hue.
I'd like to see how that looks.

[Anonymous No.3182491]

[Anonymous No.3182502]

>>3182234

I prefer the black and white, but that is mainly because the colours aren't working together imo. Maybe try a different palette.

[Anonymous No.3182523]

Why outfits in games have to have so much stuff, i'm such at drawing details.
Ah fuck it, gonna draw half body.

[Anonymous No.3182609]

>>3182523
blog

[Anonymous No.3182623]

[Anonymous No.3182691]

I've reformed and won't get banned again

Here is a self portrait I did yesterday to show that I've found God.

[Anonymous No.3182703]

>>3182691
I like it

[Anonymous No.3182732]

>>3182691

Why were you banned?

[Anonymous No.3182734]

>>3182732
started my own thread, self advertising. let this be a lesson to you.

[Anonymous No.3182750]

>>3182734
Could've learned earlier by listening to others but no, you need it the hard way.

[Anonymous No.3182766]

I'm facing a small wall.
Not sure how to proceed developing my art.

So this drawing is what I'm working on currently. What would you guys suggest I do? Call it finished, and continue working on new ones, proceed with finishing this one trying to clean the lines and color/shade it, or what? I'm kind of bad at everything so I'm wasting too much time on 1 drawing, working on it for like a week, and then I give up drawing for a while.. This has been happening for like the last 2 years. I'm seeing that I'm getting better but at a pace that's killing my joy in drawing....

[Anonymous No.3182768]

>>3182766
I've spent around 3 hours on this so far

[Anonymous No.3182776]

>>3182750
>you need it the hard way.
fill my holes with bans

[Anonymous No.3182779]

>>3182766
>>3182768
Finish it by cleaning it and color.

[Anonymous No.3182783]

>>3182766
"Bad at everything" yet you're better that 95% of /ic/ I think you're asking for tips at the wrong place

[Anonymous No.3182785]

>>3182766
at the very least block in values. you should shade every drawing you do.

[Anonymous No.3182967]

>>3181639
>>3181641
What sticks out to me the most is that the values shifts in the reference are very subtle in comparison to yours. You could soften up some areas like the forehead and the cheeks; while the eyes you could use some more decisive, thinner, harder lines. The whites of her left eye are showing more in the reference than in your study. Lots of artist tend to exaggerate (not purposefully) small details when they notice them. I think you fell into this trap with how big you made eyelid because of the bright eyeshadow.

Still the proportions are very close so good job! Other areas that are off are along the right edge of the face,the size of the forehead, and the bridge of the nose leading into this bumped shape which sort of looks like a small trapezoid.

Hopefully this helps, I did a paintover but I think I learned more from doing it than you would by looking at it. Oh and don't forget to resize your image next time.

[Anonymous No.3183013]

Help me with perspective? I am drawing rotated shapes on an imaginary rotated horizon. Am I doing it right?

[Anonymous No.3183042]

Critique? it's a 2 hour speedpaint, but I can't figure out what's wrong with my choice of colors that's making it look unrealistic?

[Anonymous No.3183067]

WIP
Is the anatomy of the head and face ok?

[Anonymous No.3183075]

>>3183042
The windows could be darker. Overall there could be stronger shadows like where the roof is casting a shadow onto the wall. Also the perspective is different than the image making it weird and isometric.

[Anonymous No.3183079]

>>3183042
It's not your colors, it's your values. Realism is all about value, and color. You're somewhat okay on color, but your values are all over the place.

[Anonymous No.3183088]

>>3183042
Push your values more. Some of the values are about right, like the plaster and some of the shingles.
But your reference has a lot more contrast. Look at the top of the roof, the shingles up there are nearly white.
Then at the bottom, at the gutter and where it overhangs, the gutter is nearly black, and there is a very soft but dark shadow cast on to the plaster wall. The plaster wall in shadow is also more saturated, a bit greener, mostly because of light reflected off the grass & foliage below it.
Blur your eyes and look at the reference compared to your painting. You'll probably be able to see where the reference is really dark or really light, and in your painting, it mostly stays much less extreme than it needs to be.

[Anonymous No.3183102]

>>3183079
>>3183088
values, that's what it is, thanks!

[Anonymous No.3183123]

>>3182766
blog? where can I see more of your stuff?

[Anonymous No.3183165]

What do you guys do for a living?
Please tell me at least one of you makes enough money from art.

[Anonymous No.3183209]

>>3183067
Ok. I think it looks better like this, Still a Wip, but I don't know if I will get to finish it

[Anonymous No.3183352]

>>3180589
just autistic enough to make it

[Anonymous No.3183419]

heres me as god

[Anonymous No.3183444]

>>3180618
what is vilppu manual?

[Anonymous No.3183449]

>>3182281
>>3182309
>>3182502
Thanks for your kind words and helpful criticism.

I tried to make some fixes and I think it looks a little better? I think I mostly just need to do a lot more studies though, while keeping in mind the stuff you said so here's how it will stand for now.

[Anonymous No.3183457]

Is it "okay" if I take a picture of my hand, trace it, stylize it a little bit and use it for my drawing? does anyone realistically give a single fuck? should I?

[Anonymous No.3183484]

[Anonymous No.3183494]

>>3183484
Pretty :) Blog?

[Anonymous No.3183498]

>>3183457
why trace it?
for >>3183419
I drew my head, my body, and my hands seperately, then combined them on the canvas at different sizes. Just get a mirror and draw it yourself.

[Anonymous No.3183502]

>>3183498
How do you even do that? It's extremely difficult to be accurate with memory and not constant observation like we were taught.

[Anonymous No.3183509]

>>3183502
i think you didn't read what i said right... get a mirror, draw your hand stylized, and you're done. i'm confused, what exactly does memory have to do with it?

[Anonymous No.3183513]

>>3183509
Do you really think I can draw my drawing hand while drawing?

[Anonymous No.3183519]

>>3183513
oh, well yeah you just gotta suck it up and do it. You can't always have a millisecond between the line and the observation. I've heard of art schools that will purposely have students with their back turned to the figure drawing model to teach them to observe more closely and work slower.

[Anonymous No.3183530]

>>3183494
Firez-tbr.tumblr.com

Thanks!

[Anonymous No.3183549]

>>3183498
Because it was a weird hand position+weird angle, and it was extremely uncomfortable to hold for long periods of time. Even taking the picture with my phone was troublesome.

[Anonymous No.3183550]

>>3183549
then do something less difficult, or push through

[Anonymous No.3183553]

Chinese Beauty
Acrylic on canvas, 30 x 24 inches

[Anonymous No.3183555]

>>3183553
Gross

Loomis

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[Anonymous No.3183556]

>>3183553
fuckin yuck dude

[Anonymous No.3183560]

>>3183550
> do something less difficult
I did, I took a picture.

[Anonymous No.3183563]

>>3183560
welp

[Anonymous No.3183567]

>>3183553
why don't you just buy a fucking textured canvas instead of building up caked up paint for a week

[Anonymous No.3183580]

>>3183567
i dont know such things existed
muh style

[Anonymous No.3183604]

>>3181597
Anon I have to get better at values and planes, can I get your blog or something? I received this crit and I instantly thought of you because your work is so strong.

[Anonymous No.3183608]

what is wrong here
critique pls

[Razorbliss No.3183628]

>>3183123
razorbliss.design in Facebook
or search for razorbliss101 in DA
I need a tmblr or instagram...

[Anonymous No.3183700]

>>3183553

Haha that looks disgusting and not just because of the paint caked on like chewing gum under a high school desk.

[Anonymous No.3183718]

>>3183608
She has broad hips. Try compacting her ribs a bit more as well.

[Anonymous No.3183836]

>>3183608
try to find the midline of the neck aka the spine. turns out the whole clavicle/trapezius is far too wide for this angle...? either head is tilted too much or change the whole pose's tilt angle.

[Anonymous No.3183954]

first time doing a color study. took me about 40 minutes.
quality might be wonky since i shrunk it down from a much larger canvas, also idk if you can crit something this unfinished but uh, crit? tips? thanks

[Anonymous No.3183975]

does this look like a good illustration so far?

[Anonymous No.3183980]

>>3183954
Where'd you get the ref? I need it

[Anonymous No.3183981]

>>3183954
Look at your drawing then look back at your ref. Repeat this a few times.
Notice how your drawing does not look like the ref?
Fix it so it does.
No need to thank me.

[Anonymous No.3183987]

>>3183980
from /ic/. someone dumped a bunch of reference folders and i downloaded them.

>>3183981
will do. but how is it for a first try? does it look like i'm using the right techniques?

[Anonymous No.3183990]

>>3183975
Composition looks dank. If the perspective on the girl is good, this'll be dope.

Please post updates, ganbate

[Anonymous No.3183998]

>>3183975
Composition needs rethinking. Staircase on the left leads the eye to the top left, where there's nothing. Both the focal points (figure and house) are on the right half of the canvas. That vertical tree lined up with the figure is stiff and closes the piece off. The house is closed off by the tree and shoved into the corner of the canvas, even though it's the second most important thing present.

Do more thumbnails next time. Ask yourself what's important, i.e. what is the picture about. Your composition decisions should reflect that. Right now the stairs and the empty top left are treated as if they're the most important. If you want that to be the case, then why include literally red riding hood and her grandma's cabin?

If that's supposed to be the wolf in the background, it doesn't make sense time-wise. Grandma should already be eaten once she's that close to the house.

It looks like you painted stairs outdoors, then tried to retroactively add a narrative to it. For an illustration, deciding the narrative comes before you paint.

[Anonymous No.3184014]

>>3183998
>It looks like you painted stairs outdoors, then tried to retroactively add a narrative to it.
that's exactly what i did. the whole background is a speedpaint i was getting bored of, so i added a house and then red riding hood as mindless scribbles. i thought it turned out interesting though

[Anonymous No.3184023]

>>3183998
>It looks like you painted stairs outdoors, then tried to retroactively add a narrative to it.
that's exactly what i did. the whole background is a speedpaint i was getting bored of, so i added a house and then red riding hood as mindless scribbles. i thought it turned out interesting. good advice though senpai, i'll try to adjust the composition

[Anonymous No.3184025]

[Anonymous No.3184038]

[Anonymous No.3184074]

calling this "Epiphany in Nature"

[Anonymous No.3184102]

>>3183449
Do you think the legs are being blocked out by the shadows of his coat? I find it a bit difficult to read. Perhaps making the pants/legs, or even the coat shadow, a different color would help make the form of his legs stand out more (and also, for the leg shading, I've noticed that contouring the lines across serves to illustrate the form of the calfs and shoes better)

also cool drawing

[Anonymous No.3184120]

How do I make this better

[Anonymous No.3184126]

>>3184120
i kinda like it how it is. do another one.

[Anonymous No.3184130]

>>3184120
maybe simplify the stylization, try to find the style you enjoy most on the lips and eyes. The lips and eyes seem the most overworked, and the hand under worked, but the nose and hair seems like you drew it exactly how you like it.

[Anonymous No.3184182]

>>3184074
i did more to this too

[Anonymous No.3184211]

So I'm going to a wall painting class now and I was asked to do a something to paint on a wall. Do you think this looks too much like an illustration rather than a painting?
It's for a fresco, so I had to choose muddy colors. And if there's someone with experience in fresco, do you thing it would be difficult to do this?

[Anonymous No.3184216]

>>3184211
all this "shakiness" isn't going to translate to an actual painting. The fidelity involved in making the slight curve on the top of the horse's snout is going to be near impossible. capturing the "atmosphere" and light of this with actual paint is going to be incredibly hard. And yes it looks more like an illustration than a painting.

Something like this would more easily be done with markers or a wet medium, rather than paint, which ends up being the case with most digital artwork since digital is more a drawing medium akin to watercolor, markers, and ink. Images done with digital don't easily translate into paintings.

Do some drawings with pencil or charcoal and try to reinterpret this drawing into that medium. Maybe try doing a smaller version of that drawing as a painting on a smaller board or canvas.

This digital drawing will be useless to you.

[Anonymous No.3184228]

[Anonymous No.3184249]

>>3184120
The rendering makes it look like the nose is huge or misshapen, and whats with the eyes?

[Anonymous No.3184258]

>>3184249
It's from a reference, her nose is kinda big. Also what's wrong with the eyes? Specify please

[Anonymous No.3184259]

>>3184126
Will do
>>3184130
Yeah, you're right in all aspects. I kind of ignored the hand, honestly. Thanks for the crit though!

[Anonymous No.3184261]

>>3184258
Man it kinda is a stylized look you're going for but the eyes are different sizes and shapes. Meanwhile the top lip is too large. But if you're going for a stylised look who cares

[Anonymous No.3184263]

>>3184025

[Anonymous No.3184271]

>>3184263
Where's the crit

[Anonymous No.3184292]

>>3184216
Is it still inviable to do something similar to this? With brushstrokes instead of the round brush shapes?

[Anonymous No.3184307]

>>3184292
digital is not going to prepare you for a painting, just fucking suck it up and get a pencil and paper.

Even if you tried to copy your previous version of this onto paper you'd realize how different a traditional work will be from a digital one.

[Anonymous No.3184324]

>>3184307
You're right. It's just so easy to paint and draw in digital... I'm scared of traditional anon

[Anonymous No.3184327]

>>3184324
practice in one isn't practice in the other. Ruan Jia can paint digitally and is shit at traditional. Hockney is amazing at painting and sucks at digital.

If this class you are taking is a traditional painting class, paint traditionally. Stop trying to reinvent the wheel and make one medium a shortcut for another. If you want to learn traditional, you need to do traditional.

[Anonymous No.3184332]

>>3184327
To say Ruan-san is shit at traditional is a bit extreme, hi's just not as good, but I have to agree with everything else

[Anonymous No.3184341]

>>3184332
He's average. If you gave him a medium where he could pull a line and didn't have to load a brush between strokes I bet he'd make something interesting, but he has a nonexistent color palette and very staid traditional drawing skills.

I'd say the reverse is true for hockneys digital work. You give him a color palette of every color imaginable and he kind of doesn't know what to do with it. Traditional painters are very dependent on limited color ranges and years of practice with each pigment.

[Anonymous No.3184347]

>>3184327
>>3184332
Well, now that I think it, art fundamentals are just art fundamentals. And Ruan's painting clearly show good knowledge, while Hockneys crappy digital illustration just shows that's he's a hack

[Anonymous No.3184348]

>>3184341
That's also why I say the colors in your digital work won't help you with traditional. When you don't have exactly the color you made in digital you'll probably have a hard time approximating it with mixing. You need to work within the limitations of having 6-8 colors and not infinite combinations from sliders

[Anonymous No.3184350]

>>3184347
Your millennial is showing, anon

[Anonymous No.3184357]

>>3184350
Clearly a master of oil painting

[Anonymous No.3184362]

>>3184357
show me a hack who can fake this. have some perspective. he's a great artist.

[Anonymous No.3184369]

>>3184362
This is good at most. He's an average artist hacking around with "muh saturated colors"

[Anonymous No.3184374]

>>3184369
are you the same nigga thats got to paint the wall? wtf are you on about dude? so you've given up on traditional drawing to prepare you for the painting because you saw a mediocre painting by ruan jia? Alright good luck bruh, I can't wait to see how bad it comes out.

[Anonymous No.3184381]

>>3180501
If you're using a 3D base, it could be the camera causing the warped perspective. Try changing the settings for the lens

[Anonymous No.3184384]

I'm not really sure what I need to improve on. It just doesn't look like real light to me. I feel like if I spent more time of this I wouldn't get anywhere. What kind of studies should I be doing? I mostly just do photocopies of statue references.

[Anonymous No.3184388]

revised

[Anonymous No.3184396]

>>3184388
beautiful

[Anonymous No.3184400]

>>3184396
thank you ^^

[Anonymous No.3184404]

>>3184400
whatever you do don't change a thing. paint like this for the rest of your life.

[Anonymous No.3184410]

>>3184404
i hope to do exactly that. thank you for understanding me and my art. its rare to see someone like you here. thanks

[Anonymous No.3184413]

>>3184410
no problem. your experimentation is perfect. you are a golden tiger, like you say.

[Anonymous No.3184474]

>>3184102
That's a problem I didn't eve notice before and a great idea for fixing it, thank you!

[Anonymous No.3184478]

>>3184404
dont do this to him

[Anonymous No.3184488]

>>3184478
what are you talking about? i think his compliments are sincere. he is not the first one to recognize the value of my art

you think its funny until i actually make it. oh snap

[Anonymous No.3184507]

>>3184488
oh snap. whoop there it is. word to your mother.

[Anonymous No.3184514]

Repostan' from the Style general because I'm not sure how good at/willing to critique composition the guys over there are. Will delete if needed.
>I tried to stage some lighting and color, admitedly spent quite some more time than I should have for something I don't know if I'm even going to use. Sort of Phil Hale inspired, except without the insane talent and made by an amateur weeb. Should I go on? worth it or do I try something else?

[Anonymous No.3184632]

I posted on /beg/ too but here it goes
I fucked up on the anatomy somewhere but i'm apparently not good enough to know where i fucked up, can you guys help?

[Anonymous No.3184651]

>>3184514
>Should I go on? worth it or do I try something else?
thats something you can answer yourself, faggot.

as far as your lighting and color, there's not much to say because its very uncomplete even for the amount of time you spent on it. considering the light is coming from the top left, you need a drop shadow on the pants/legs and im assuming its hard light because you have part of the collar projecting on to his face. the rest is just basically not rendered enough no soft edges or anything.

[Anonymous No.3184656]

>>3184327
>>3184341
holy fuck you have to be baiting. ruan jia began with traditional u wanker. he paints the way he does in digital because of traditional methods and techniques. have you ever seen his earlier digital paintings? before he started going all out and pushing his digital paintings, he painted with hard edges and opaquely he painted the way you would traditionally, with color. he is great at digital because he knows his shit from both sides, not because he has a strength over the other.

[Anonymous No.3184701]

>>3184488

Why is it that whenever someone here calls your work shit they are trolling according to you but you take it as a fact when someone else calls it "beautiful"?

[Anonymous No.3184718]

>>3184651
Ah shit, I don't think you got what I wanted. I meant to get feedback on if the colors and light I picked were working for the mood and/or if I should add anything to the composition, when I painted it I wanted to see how it would look in general which is why it's so rough/shit in most places, my bad for not explaining myself properly. But still, thanks, I'm seeing some stuff clearly now and planning ahead. Also the light was originally from top left, but I painted over it and intended to have it be coming from the front/slightly left, there's just some fucked up places from the previous iteration (see: the hand) which are not coherent.

[Anonymous No.3184725]

>>3184701
You can't reason with someone under a delusion. That's literally what it is. Just let him be.

[Anonymous No.3185051]

Finally done, gotte move on

[Anonymous No.3185221]

So I started this a while ago and never finished, I'm taking a crack at it again because I have zero finished pieces and I want some

[Anonymous No.3185263]

>>3185051
Is that a giant lemur?

[Anonymous No.3185270]

>>3183980
>>3183987

I think it's from here

https://www.posespace.com/posetool/models.aspx

[Anonymous No.3185280]

>>3185263
Yeah, at least it was the main inspiration

[Anonymous No.3185284]

help

[Anonymous No.3185287]

>>3179774

[Anonymous No.3185402]

drew my bonsai in graphite

[Anonymous No.3185403]

>>3185402
and charcoal

crits welcome!

[Anonymous No.3185425]

Any critique before i call it done?

[Anonymous No.3185451]

>>3185425
Looks pro, are you working in the industry?

[Anonymous No.3185469]

>>3185451
Thanks! yeah i was employed up untill 2 months ago, taking some time off now to work on personal stuff.

[Anonymous No.3185470]

>>3185425
the boss' face and hand is maybe a little high contrast. if you could tone it down a tad it would look more natural I think. But overall it looks awesome.

[Anonymous No.3185501]

>>3185425
yeah you could kill yourself and stop being a faggot for once in a while

[Anonymous No.3185522]

>spend a while thinking about and planning a picture that doesn't turn out the way I want
>spend a few minutes mindless doodling and I like it way more

[Anonymous No.3185539]

did this still life

[Anonymous No.3185547]

>>3185425
nice work. The comp is a little strange. A lot of high contrast element where there shouldn't be. Like the blue beams in the bg. Also that screen on the bottom left catches the eye too much.

The blue beams of the background that reflects a lot on the right red surface affects readability as well.

there seems to be some perspective issues. there is to much scale difference between the guy standing on right and guy in the middle.

Overall, i quite like the design of the room in general. its quite unique and well thought out. It kinda overshadows the characters which are all quite bland

>>3185402
take better pictures. it looks nice but hard to tell.
>>3185287
overall nice but for this kind of design i would clean the lines up a bit. Also a bit sloppy in how you applied the colors. prob could go more saturated as well.
>>3185221
too early to tell...continue to look at miyazaki...has good potential.
>>3185051
lovely. I think you have too many blown out values. for example that tail doesn't need a 1000% white highlight on top. Its only distracting.
>>3184384
this is really sloppy., im sure you could push it more. define the shapes better. also it seems you are shading with black... usually colors become more saturated in the shadows.
>>3183954
getting crits at this stage is not useful. You are obv at a very beginner phase and at this point you just need to do this for 1000 more hours at least. you need to train your eyes to see basic shapes. only time can help that.
>>3183449
super cool
>>3181382
overall quite nice. needs to be pushed further tho. especially the faces.the form shadow of the faces seems to be too strong for the amount of bounce light there would be going on. fix the mans shoes. what does he have on his arm? it doesn't read well. im not sure about that coloring choice either.the slight colors in the bg are nice, i would put some on the characters as well

[Anonymous No.3185570]

>>3185522
Very cool!

[Anonymous No.3185585]

>>3185539
Great work. Definitely an A in a classroom setting. The only thing I dislike is using black for the shadows. I realize it's part of the style you're doing, but it's too jarring among all that color - I'd use a cooler black in the shadows, and a warmer black for the outlines where the highlights land.

[Anonymous No.3185723]

How do I get myself in the mood to draw?

[Anonymous No.3185731]

>>3185585
the answer is probably just "don't do black in the shadows"... usually i paint the shadows myself, but i did an outline and filled it in this time, then painted on top of it.

[Anonymous No.3185871]

>>3185547
Thanks i think ill just chnage the guy all together actually too generic :P

>>3185470 some great critique really nails it!
def gives me some pointers to work on thanks!

[Anonymous No.3186233]

>>3179774
did a sketch of escobar's wife in Narcos

[Anonymous No.3186293]

>>3186233
colored it n shit

[Anonymous No.3186446]

Rate this Rick i'm drawing, thanks.

[Anonymous No.3186451]

>>3186446
2smart4me

[Anonymous No.3186454]

>>3180417
It’s not like this is a blatant rip off of Grievous’ wheel bike from Episode 3 or anything

[Anonymous No.3186455]

Rate this portrait

[Anonymous No.3186462]

>>3186455
2463/2019

[Anonymous No.3186465]

>>3186451
Almost anything is too smart for you, i'm not surprised. My IQ is 560.

[Anonymous No.3186468]

>>3186446
Stop working on it right now. It's a turd and you're polishing it

[Anonymous No.3186472]

>>3186455
Hmm, first of all: try to have some better edge control, it doesn't look like you're confident in what you're doing, it seems like you tried to copy the picture's each individual parts instead of understanding the form and planes and then replicating them, and then resorting to "well if this part is made of individual hairs then let's paint a lot of individual hairs, right?". Use bigger brushes I'd say, or rather don't go for the smaller ones, you shouldn't try to detail stuff like the hair or eyebrows. From the thumbnail it looks pretty good tho.

[Anonymous No.3186477]

>>3186472
It's because i'm drawing with the mouse, i don't have a digital drawing table.

[Anonymous No.3186479]

>>3186468
Why exactly? i'll finish anyway.

[Anonymous No.3186485]

>>3186477
Shiiit, really? then I'll give you extra credit for that, it looks quite good for a mouse. I know because I made digital drawings with a mouse for like 3 years (or like 10, if I count the time I was a kid using MS Paint).

[Anonymous No.3186494]

>>3185051
the girl looks super unfinished, compared to lemur. get rid of dark outline for starters.

[Anonymous No.3186506]

quick warmup

[Anonymous No.3186541]

crit on this?

[Anonymous No.3186551]

>>3186541
I like it, there is a beginning of some awesome realism an your colors are on the brink of something magical

[tiger No.3186554]

>>3186541
i observe symmetrical components and relationships of opposite duality (yin and yang).

The warmth of the light areas on the peaches are contrasted by the coolness of the dark. The pink and green make up two large shapes in the background that also relate to the theme of yin and yang.

The colors go red, magenta, blue. and yellow green cyan. They are paired in such manner. Blue (cool) in the first pair connects with the green and cyan (cool) in second pair and yellow (warm) in second pair connects with red and magenta (warm) in the first.

The depiction of peaches suggest desire and human sexuality.

There is excitement in the diagonal and complex shapes of the fabric.

This is not boring to look at.

The colors could be little bit more complete with addition of light green (yellow shade) in the bottom right corner and very little of red oxide or indian red in the shadow of the peach on right. Even without the changes this is a good painting.

[Anonymous No.3186556]

>>3186541
>>3186551
>>3186554

[Anonymous No.3186559]

>>3186554
>The depiction of peaches suggest desire and human sexuality.
if you think THOSE are horny peaches, you should see pic related I did today where the peaches are literally a pussy and a fat ass. I haven't had sex in 6 years and it's seeping into my still lifes.

[Anonymous No.3186579]

>>3186541
>>3186559
Now I have to go masturbate. Again.

[Anonymous No.3186583]

>>3180789
>tattoo
You're a fucking cretin

[Anonymous No.3186584]

>>3186454
Nah star wars took it from history. its an actual thing.

[Anonymous No.3186602]

>>3186584
That is the most amazing, badass thing I've seen all week.

[Anonymous No.3186616]

i'm making a soft wrinkly friend

[Anonymous No.3186629]

>>3180940

A rare pedo crab...

[Anonymous No.3186630]

>>3186602

[Anonymous No.3186672]

>>3186468
?

[Anonymous No.3186725]

>>3186446
Stop working on the face and work on the other stuff man

[Anonymous No.3186726]

>>3186446
worst fanbase in history

[Anonymous No.3186731]

[Anonymous No.3186992]

>>3184362
Really awful linework and perception of form especially on the clothings

[Anonymous No.3186997]

>>3186616
Looks really cool and I love your refs.

[Anonymous No.3187003]

[Anonymous No.3187004]

>>3187003
(scetch)

[Anonymous No.3187014]

>>3187003
(sketch)

[Anonymous No.3187016]

>>3185585
I think the black outlines look good as in they help the objects to stand out with contrast, creates a sense of depth

[Anonymous No.3187019]

>>3186479
The pose and the anatomy look awful.It basically looks like a deformed human being that belongs in a different dimension than ours where the perception of the form is sligtly distant

[Anonymous No.3187020]

>>3186541
They look beautiful, I'm kind of hungry now. Lovely use of colour.

[Anonymous No.3187190]

>>3183419
>going for the yaoi audience

[Anonymous No.3187198]

The first live model drawing I've made and actually are fairly happy with.

8min

[Anonymous No.3187205]

>>3187019
I'll work the anatomy and the stuff, but i think the face it's pretty good.

[Anonymous No.3187257]

look mom im famous! this time im in a newspaper for something other than being missing!

[Anonymous No.3187283]

>>3183553
Breh stop wasting paint and ship it to me

[Anonymous No.3187287]

>>3184211
>fetal alcohol syndrome

[Anonymous No.3187298]

>>3182234
>Also, is there a better way to process lineart than to select color range and delete the selection? It leaves annoying white space around my lines

Grayscale mode, adjust levels and curves to get the line thickness and solid color that you want. Then run the 'threshold' adjustment, I like it ~128 range, but use the slider and find what keeps the most detail. This kills all antialiasing and blurring and you get sharp linework of one color that you can select and fill on a fresh layer.
Alternatively, after adjusting the levels, you can just set the linework layer to multiply and the whites will be see-thru.

[Anonymous No.3187312]

Didn't even know this was airing again until somebody mentioned it offhand to me today.

[Anonymous No.3187322]

>>3187205
That's what called polishing a turd, you're making the face really good but the rest is still shit

[Anonymous No.3187359]

>>3179774
Making a doublespread of a museum on an orthographic / isometric perspective. Kill me.

[Anonymous No.3187390]

>>3187298
You are the best my man, I will keep this in mind for the future!

[Anonymous No.3187414]

got too dark to work on this any more, but i made good progress i think

[Anonymous No.3187420]

>>3187414
I like seeing your fruits, the textures are very cathartic/aesthetically pleasing to look at.

[Anonymous No.3187421]

>>3184038
want feedback? try posting something that you studied from real life not kushart krenz boi

[Anonymous No.3187422]

>>3187421
Krenz isn't real life

[Anonymous No.3187428]

>>3187422
d-did you read what i said ?

[Anonymous No.3187459]

>>3187257
Nice

[Anonymous No.3187527]

>>3187312
Practicing lining in Autodesk on my phone with my finger because no tablet or scanner.

[Anonymous No.3187536]

>>3187527
draw the hands you ingrate

[Anonymous No.3187558]

>>3187536
That's like the trickiest bit, doing it on a tiny mobile screen with a finger, ironically.

[Anonymous No.3187771]

Too tired, gonna wake up in six hours and finish this

[Anonymous No.3187869]

>>3183013
i think you can try pushing the perspective further, and making the pose more dynamic! i went a bit overboard with this but i hope it still illustrates the point i'm trying to make (mainly with the legs)

[Anonymous No.3187882]

haven't been here for ages, are you guys still fags?

[Anonymous No.3187884]

>>3183013
i think you can try pushing the perspective further, and making the pose more dynamic! i hope this illustrates the point i'm trying to make despite the weird left leg and lack of knowledge in how to draw guns :E

[Anonymous No.3187893]

>>3185403
I think this is neat anon.

[Anonymous No.3187956]

>>3182016
/done

[Anonymous No.3187967]

>>3187771
awesome.

[Anonymous No.3187970]

>>3187956
nais
oils?

[Anonymous No.3187972]

>>3187970
Ty~
Oils.

[Anonymous No.3187973]

>>3187893
>>3187970
>this is good because traditional
>this guy

[Anonymous No.3188199]

[Anonymous No.3188224]

>>3188199
feet dont work like that

[Anonymous No.3188226]

>>3188199
Are those proportions on purpose? I don't think it works, super small ribcage, huge hands, saggy tits, huge legs...

[Anonymous No.3188234]

>>3188224
Placeholder
>>3188226
This isn't for accuracy, I followed my initial gesture

[Anonymous No.3188255]

>>3188234
its not that, its the way you have it bending and the sharp angle it makes before the ankle

[Anonymous No.3188258]

>>3188199
that iliac crest behind the wrist makes a small high detail spot and the line flow and thickness on both elements are similar. You can get rid of the hip crease or you may have to bend the arm a bit. A little extra negative space there might look good too.

[Anonymous No.3188262]

>>3188199
derpy face, boobs too low, missing half her jaw, ear too big, chode forearms, thighs not ending at the pelvis, fairly certain those feet are broken and your thigh muscles are wrong, one has the muscles going further than the other.

[Anonymous No.3188264]

>>3188262
also forgot to mention she has 4 fingers on her left hand

[Anonymous No.3188265]

finished this

[Anonymous No.3188271]

>>3188265
>another still life

Come on, step it up rich boy

[Anonymous No.3188276]

>>3188265
dont know if anyone has mentioned this to you, but you have no sense of lighting. and your colors are kinda everywhere. with lighting you have to think about your tones, half tones, terminator and reflected light. you have 0 tone on this image, it screams highschool beginner art, because you cant control your tones it means theres no sense of unity and that makes this whole painting chaotic. basic fundamentals friend.

[Anonymous No.3188307]

more work sketches

[Anonymous No.3188310]

>>3180501
>All of these have 3D base
Well at least you admit it.

[Anonymous No.3188313]

>>3185469
What do you use? Is this all painted/drawn or do you also employ modeling.
Do you have tips to create scenes like this?
It looks really nice btw.

[Anonymous No.3188316]

>>3188307
You seem to be cool but you also seem to be a tryhard OwO sort of guy, can't decide.

[Anonymous No.3188319]

Another value study

[Anonymous No.3188322]

>>3188316
dunno what you mean about the OwO part. Im just trying to get drawings out while I can since my drawing time in general is pretty limited.

[Anonymous No.3188325]

>>3188322
its a gay ass weeb emote

[Anonymous No.3188330]

>>3188307
NoseBro? No, he's not this good. Nice trees on the right though, how did you learn to draw them like that?

[Anonymous No.3188339]

>>3188330
for inks and what not i kind of look at the old bill watterson style, and study other artists who use ink.
with trees i literally just start with real loose, trees are all different so i try to make them distinct as i can. other than that learn to make contrast with the blacks/whites to make them more readable
>>3181372
more of em.

[Anonymous No.3188405]

all i've done so far is roughly lay in 10 layers of layer modes for lighting (mostly multiply/screen/overlay). Not sure if this is the 'correct' method. I plan to merge layers from this point and then work on the merged layer for details

[Anonymous No.3188410]

>>3188405
Can you do a chart like the one for the alien? Interested in seeing your process.

[Anonymous No.3188426]

>>3188410
i'm not sure what chart you're talking of, but my process is basically 'i don't know what i'm doing so i'm going to splap on layer modes until it looks Ok'. I have named my layers to show you what I mean.
(i'm still trying to gather input on how much I should use layer modes, but I find in drawing creatures it's kind of difficult to just pick colours for every light/shadow area as there are lots of different markings).

[Anonymous No.3188476]

>>3188276
>it screams highschool beginner art
it really doesnt

[Anonymous No.3188478]

>>3188476
im guessing you never went to highschool, sorry senpai

[Anonymous No.3188502]

>>3179774

[Anonymous No.3188505]

>>3188502

[Anonymous No.3188506]

>>3188502
>>3188505


>>3184241

[Anonymous No.3188604]

>>3185051
lovly

[Anonymous No.3188713]

>>3187884
Thanks for the reply!

[Anonymous No.3188756]

added some wrinkles

[Anonymous No.3189012]

[Anonymous No.3189160]

>>3189012
How did you color the goblin? Gradients? Airbrush?

[Anonymous No.3189169]

I think I have successfully failed at rendering metal. I need to fix this dumb sword asap, really, please help me. How do you go about this?

[Anonymous No.3189291]

The face is a bit wonky, and I'm actively working on getting my heads right for future drawings.
But besides that, what should I have done differently, or practice more at?
I especially know that my shading is flawed, but I'm not sure why. If anyone has some light to shine on that it would be very welcomed.

[Anonymous No.3189313]

>>3189160
Base color layer then lower oppacity airbrush with color modes.followed up by a harder brush for extra details etc

[Anonymous No.3189419]

>>3189291
Some day I really need to learn how to properly spot blacks.
I absolutely love the aesthetics of hatching, but it's too fucking time consuming.

Well, done. And I'm fairly happy with the result even if it didn't end up as I first wanted.

[Anonymous No.3189655]

>>3186454
>implying Star Wars is the only piece of fiction that has wheel bikes in it

[Anonymous No.3190154]

>>3189419
I like it but you could probably improve his pants some how. Feels a bit flat, get what I mean?