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>tfw /ic/ got BTFO'd by DeviantArt

>> No.2988334

>>2988331
>/ic/ got BTFO'd
In what context?

>> No.2988338

>>2988331
>2011
Wonder where he is now after following his own advice.

>> No.2988341
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>>2988331
>>2988334
>>2988338
Saved from last time, do your fundies kids

>> No.2988345

http://crazymoto.deviantart.com/gallery/
xD

>> No.2988353

>>2988341
Well if that's what he want to do and people spend time following him for it then I don't see why others should care. That doesn't change that the advice he was given was a good advice. I don't see how /ic/ got blown the fuck up just because he refused to need it.

This just seems like some internal DA drama thing between people drawing for different reasons.

>> No.2988355

>>2988331
This is what happens when you try to tell people the best way to do something that is totally subjective.

>> No.2988358

>>2988355
Idk, dude draws Bara and Yaoi. I'd imagine anatomy would help him out a lot.

He's just a shitty artist making shitty art for his niche following. A 31 y.o. loser from the looks of things.

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>>2988358
Whoop, forgot pic.

>> No.2988362

>>2988358
Define "shitty art". Oh wait. You can't. Art's subjective.
You can't even say bad anatomy makes bad art because lol subjective.
Critique is a meme. You can only "critique" yourself, and he doesn't want to.

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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sandiskondrats/head-and-neck-anatomy-a-book-with-3d-augmented-rea/comments

The "Head & Neck anatomy" ebook (by the same team that made "Anatomy For Sculptors") is out.
But it turns out that it is behind some retarded DRM and the ebook can only be accessed online

Is there any change for a high quality rip of this ebook?

>> No.2988445

>>2988362
>Oh wait. You can't. Art's subjective.

You're an idiot. There's a degree of objectivity to all representational art that you can't just deny because your feelings are hurt. If you showed this guy's art next to say a Ruanjia painting to 1000 random people and asked them "which one is good and which one is shit?" what do you think the results would be like?

>> No.2988458

>>2988445
Wow there's a tendency in ~subjective opinions~. Does that change the fact that it's subjective? No.
Besides, which one is "good"? What the fuck is good? Subjective, that's what it is, you fucking buttchump.
There's no such thing as a "degree of objectivity" you moron, shit's either objective or subjective. You can make objective statements like "those lines are straighter than those lines" but is a straighter line a good line? Who the fuck knows, that's SUBJECTIVE.

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>>2988362
Here's subjective art for you. This is done by finnish tranny "comic artist".

>> No.2988476

>>2988475
>>2988458

>> No.2988477

>>2988331
>their profile pic is pretty nice, I don't see why-
>>2988359
>oh. man.
why do they do this? use other art as their pic if they themsleves are proud of their own work?

>>2988345
hey the guy's trying

>> No.2988482

>>2988359
>yaoi & bara
>straight male artist

Ok. I mean it's possible but

>> No.2988483

>>2988458
>~
kys

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Well at least he's drawing what he likes badly instead of just drawing badly.

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>> No.2988499

>>2988494
Haha oh shit its that guy

>> No.2988502

>>2988458
>There's no such thing as a "degree of objectivity" you moron

Yes there is you idiot. It's the same thing with beauty in general. Beauty is subjective to some degree, but objective to another.

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>> No.2988511

>>2988438
>drm on a book
couldn't someone just screencap the pages

>> No.2988512

>>2988508
>popufurs
please tell me this means what I think it means.

>> No.2988513

>>2988508

>What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch?

>> No.2988514

>>2988502
Eh, I dont think so.
Beauty is a subjective concept, it cant really be pinned down like math.
The closest we have to an objective idea of beauty is the general consensus of the human population, and regarding facial aesthetics, the average. Beyond that you can argue that craftsmanship and complexity makes something beautiful, but there are many things that fit these criteria that dont seem to count.
Its the old saying "i cant define it, but i know it when i see it"

>> No.2988523

>>2988438
>>2988511
Never mind, got em. Their sense of security is just as retarded as Fakku. I'll upload the full rip tomorrow

>> No.2988552

>>2988523
Thank you for this

>> No.2988553

>>2988512
Do you think it means 'popular furries'?

>> No.2988554

>>2988553
yes

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>>2988331
>>2988359
>Refuses to actually work to towards improving his art
>Dislikes giving up
Pottery

>> No.2988563

>>2988353
>That doesn't change that the advice he was given was a good advice.

The first part contradicts the second. How is it good advice when it clearly isn't his goal? He said he draws for fun, he doesn't want to improve. You are telling a dude who isn't an artist, to become an artist which is actually awful advice, artists don't get paid shit.

Also 'learn fundamentals' is never good advice in any context.

>> No.2988587

>>2988563
>The first part contradicts the second.
No it doesn't.

It is a good advice in general. That he doesn't want to improve in that direction doesn't change that.

It's like he was told not to piss upwind and then freaks out expecting people to understand he like to be soaked in piss.

>> No.2988600

>>2988508
>wolfy-nail
ohh fuck, I hate furfags but his stuff is quite nice

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r8 his tastes /ic/

>> No.2988620

>>2988600
>I hate furfags but
Only furfags say this

>> No.2988626

>>2988523
you're a star anon

>> No.2988654

>>2988477
>hey the guy's trying
>last post is from 2011
tried.

>> No.2988683

>>2988617
In the closet / 10

>> No.2988690

>>2988331
/ic/ is not entirely wrong by telling people to get a solid grasp on fundamentals

They are wrong when the autismo kicks in and they act like every piece of art needs to attend some unattainable level of perfection and anything below that is trash or when they think a drawing should only be judged by technical skills instead of the vibe it gives you overall or how unique the style is because after all art is all about individuality

>> No.2988714

>>2988690
The problem with this is
1. its entirely unhelpful. everyone needs to work on fundamentals, this gives absolutely no direction or advice.
2. its asinine to "critique" people who don't give a fuck. its only done to pad your own ego, not to help.

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>>2988359
>rating: pretty cool, in a gamer geek kind of way

>> No.2988788

>>2988514
So we can kind of objectively agree on beauty to an extent in terms of humans. Doesn't that mean that there's a degree of objectivity to beauty then?
Isn't what you're saying basically contradicting yourself?

>> No.2988799

>>2988445
Why waste time ranting? This shit "art is subjective" nonsense has infected a lot of art schools, too. Learning the fundamentals was rejected by the mainstream long before you were born. If you showed a current art student the curriculum from an art degree in the 40's, they'd break down in tears.

It's one of the reasons why art isn't respected as a career anymore, because "anyone can do it" assholes, and "It looks wrong because that's my style" cunts.

Focus on YOUR abilities, and YOUR style. And stop giving unasked for critiques. DA is the cesspool of the internet, art-wise, and is a waste of time.

>> No.2988802

>>2988494
I swear to god, you could cut and paste his shit into ChrisChan's stuff, and it would fit.

>> No.2988822

>>2988600
might as well stop hating furfags

they are all sorts of people there hating them is like saying i hate hentai artists

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holy fuck no this >entire thread

just some faggot from the nineteenth century but::
"Those who find ugly meanings in beautiful things are corrupt without being charming. This is a fault. Those who find beautiful meanings in beautiful things are the cultivated. For these there is hope. They are the elect to whom beautiful things mean only Beauty. There is no such thing as a moral or an immoral book. Books are well written, or badly written. That is all."