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Anonymous Mon Sep 16 11:12:38 2013 No.1548665

The biggest problem for me with working on a PC is that if i want to draw something from a reference, it has to be on the same screen where i am drawing. This is really annoying.
With pen and paper i can just look up at the screen and then back to my drawing.
With my graphic tablet, the picture is taking up drawing space...

Also the photoshop version i have is fucking shit(PS Elements 10) but i don't have the money to buy better software.

Wat do?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 11:14:37 2013 No.1548666 >>1548665 Download it. Simple.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 11:15:37 2013 No.1548667 >>1548666 What? A better version of photoshop? No idea how. Can't into pirating because i am too paranoid.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 11:17:38 2013 No.1548668 Is erasing your lines better than going a step back?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 11:18:08 2013 No.1548669 >>1548665 if you feel like traditional is better for you, don't force yourself into digital art! But if you HAVE to work digitally, you could either print the image out or maybe get a second monitor?

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 11:20:09 2013 No.1548670

>>1548669
Second monitor would probably be the best solution.
I already have a graphic tablet and i would really like to use it more often but there are a few annoyances that keep bothering me(PS being one of them because the version i have is utter shit but it came for free with the tablet).

My printer is also shit which is why printing the pic would not really work well.

>>	op Mon Sep 16 11:21:09 2013 No.1548671 File: 1.44 MB, 2480x3507, bimini.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] hey, guys, drew this a while ago. thoughts? i'm thinking about finishing it in photoshop. is it worth it?

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 11:22:38 2013 No.1548672

>>1548667
Then you're screwed, photoshop is stupidly expensive and not worth it f you don't even like drawing digitally. Try something free like Gimp.
Maybe you could try drawing by hand then scanning stuff in and continuing work on it?
>>1548669
And that isn't a bad idea.

>>	maladroit Mon Sep 16 11:23:08 2013 No.1548673 >>1548671 whoops, didn't change name from previous thread.

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 11:25:08 2013 No.1548674

>>1548672
>Maybe you could try drawing by hand then scanning stuff in and continuing work on it?

I don't have a scanner, which is why drawing digitally is pretty much my only option for my drawings to be posted online.
I don't have anything against digital drawing per se, there are just a few problems i need to fix first to make it a better experience.

Not sure if gimp is good for drawing.

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 11:28:39 2013 No.1548675
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Pretty much the first drawing I've done trying to be realistic in a long time. Certainly the first with out outlines.
From life/memory/my head because the damn thing wouldn't sit still.

Anything wrong or any advice?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 11:29:39 2013 No.1548677 >>1548671 That's one hell of a thin arm and small hand. Can't really make out the face.

>>	maladroit Mon Sep 16 11:30:37 2013 No.1548678 >>1548674 goddamnit, dude http://www.utorrent.com/utorrent-plus/index/frmnvh http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/505870976/photoshop+cs6?tab=summary there. stop being paranoid. noone fucking tracks the shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 11:31:08 2013 No.1548680 >>1548675 Cute. Push the values.

>>	maladroit Mon Sep 16 11:31:38 2013 No.1548679 >>1548677 yeah, his hair is in the way. he's in the middle of a snowstorm. could look better if i'd finish it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 11:39:28 2013 No.1548683 >>1548671 Pretty boring composition. You can do better. Don't think that fancy rendering can hide basic truths such as poor planning and composition.

>>	maladroit Mon Sep 16 11:40:28 2013 No.1548686 >>1548683 yeah, i suck at composition. what should i do to improve it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 11:41:58 2013 No.1548688 >>1548686 ctrlpaint has tutorials on that stuff

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 11:43:57 2013 No.1548690 >>1548671 Try drawing with a lighter hand rather than pressing so hard with the pencil then going over in pen. Also some of your lines don't join up and it looks like you're flat out missing a line from the seat of his pants.

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 11:48:58 2013 No.1548694

>>1548686
Well you have a guy standing there in the most static pose possible (standing straight upright, arms at side, no twist, weight distributed evenly over both feet). He is standing dead center of the canvas, looking at us. And then there is a hint of background, just some distant mountains, and their shapes don't related to him or do anything interesting compositionally.

Try to figure out how you can make it more interesting. Think of what he may be doing--what kind of character is he, is he on a journey? How can you better show his relationship to the environment? Is that the best cropping? Can you show a more interesting angle perhaps? Why is he alone? What is the focus of the piece?

You just gotta start asking yourself some questions. Would he be better if he rwere bigger in the composition? Smaller? If you showed mroe of him, less of him? If he had more gear with him? If he were walking away from the camera, or in another direction? If you had more of a foreground?

What are you trying to show with this piece, and what is the best way to show it? What kind of lighting will you choose? What basic abstract shapes can the composition be broken down into--is it interesting? Does it have a focal point?

maladroit Mon Sep 16 11:53:29 2013 No.1548699

>>1548690
i did the lines so hard with a pencil on purpose, because on the other side i was doing a monotype.

yeah, i actually thought about the pants, and i don't think the lines should join up.

>>1548694
yeah, well, i don't really want him in a different angle. i was thinking more about how i should crop, and actually present him in the picture. as in in which area of the picture he should be. the background is just a quick mockup. i'll think of something better.

oh, and doesn't have his weight distributed on both feet, you can see, that he's standing on his right foot, with his spine slightly bent.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 12:06:29 2013 No.1548705 File: 298 KB, 733x881, lol.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] first time using SAI, it's nice

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 12:10:58 2013 No.1548706
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>>1548699
Eh, it's still boring. Here is a quick mockup of how you might make it better. Just by making him smaller than his environment it changes it a lot, then placing him off center helps too. Notice how a lot of the lines of the environment point back to him too. Still not a great solution, this is just my way of saying to try out different things. Do some thumbnails.

Anyways, it has a nice feel to it, reminiscent of Tekkon Kinkreet. You are right to stand by your design choices for pants and lines and proportions.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 12:11:58 2013 No.1548707 >>1548706 lol jut realized you want him in snowstorm, and I put him in like the american southwest or something. Doesn't change my point though.

>>	maladroit Mon Sep 16 12:13:58 2013 No.1548709 >>1548706 that's exactly what i just did! thanks for the help, mate.

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 12:15:28 2013 No.1548710

>>1548667
Photoshop is cracked by only changing literally 1-2 lines of code. Think why it is so easy to crack and think why it costs so much?

That's right, it's not meant for private use or doodling, it's meant for proffessional use. Unless you're making money off of it, don't worry about adobe.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 12:16:59 2013 No.1548712 >>1548671 really, really nice lineart. reminds me of my best mates stuff. You need to work on proportion, though. Hands out of it. >>1548675 Not bad but you need to use more contrast and use the concept of planes more. >>1548705 cool.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 12:20:28 2013 No.1548715 File: 1.46 MB, 1147x1500, Day 31 - 006.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone got some good tutorials on jaws and hair? And anything else that sticks out here.

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 12:46:28 2013 No.1548730
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>>1548661

i spent sooo much phucking time, felt good finishing it, and now that i look at it out of the flow i spot so much shit that is wrong.

oh boy was that inefficient learning.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 12:49:02 2013 No.1548733 >>1548730 no offence but that looks like a dude with man tits even though he is not fat.

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 12:49:32 2013 No.1548732

>>1548710
makes sense.
i also heard that people who pirate movies and games arent even being pursued on a legal level.
i heard that they sometimes get letters telling them to stop doing it but that's about it.
if they'd really go after everyone it would be too much work because there are just so many.
it's easier taking the sites down where you can download this shit in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 12:51:02 2013 No.1548735 >>1548733 oh god... fuck you too ;,,(

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 12:55:01 2013 No.1548738 >>1548730 Nose and jaw makes it look manly as fuck, the hair also needs work. The hands a great though and it looks pretty stone/marble like.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 12:55:32 2013 No.1548737 >>1548715 proportions are completely whack. ear is too far back, jaw and especially chin are teensy tiny.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 12:56:02 2013 No.1548740 >>1548712 Concept of planes?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 12:56:02 2013 No.1548741 >>1548738 Yes, i agree with this. The thumbnail looks nice also

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 13:04:32 2013 No.1548744
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>>1548715
I like that you are thinking of the forms and are using directional hatching wrapping around things to really feel it out and show it!

That being said, you are losing sight of your values at times. Like emphasizing the wrong things, or making the reflected light too strong (like on the ball of the chin). Realize that depending on how you do the core shadow and reflected light, you will change the actual form.

Anyways, you can see in the paintover I really softened the transitions between things, and tried to get more value unity. You can lay washes of pencil over things to achieve this.

You also can go quite dark and add white highlights, so use this sparingly and intelligently. Those accents can really make a difference. I tried to keep the dark accents in the features, and the white highlights only in a few areas.

For issue with the hair, try to imagine it in clumps, like a blocky chunky mass instead of individual hairs. And the jaw you just need to resolve the issues of how it fits in with the neck.

Again, good job, just be careful of emphasizing hte wrong things and causing form distortions like the brow ridge, the chin etc.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 13:09:02 2013 No.1548745 File: 490 KB, 1798x1080, movie-s-10.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] There is no escape from this place.

>>	maladroit Mon Sep 16 13:18:32 2013 No.1548750 File: 697 KB, 1920x1200, yyy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1548745 check yo lighting.

>>	maladroit Mon Sep 16 13:20:32 2013 No.1548752 >>1548745 also, his face should be much darker. his face is kinda twisted out of shape too. looks unrealistic. and the pink glow on his right cheek is completely out of place.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 13:49:20 2013 No.1548771 File: 268 KB, 733x881, ab2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1548705 I retract that statement. SAI is amazing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 13:51:02 2013 No.1548773 >>1548744 Thanks a lot, I'll defiantly reread and look at this again for future portraits.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 13:52:01 2013 No.1548774 >>1548771 What is the difference in how it feels compared to PS?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 13:54:22 2013 No.1548776 >>1548771 better than photoshop? it focuses more on painting/drawing than actual photomanipulation, right? what are the differences?

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 14:04:33 2013 No.1548780

>>1548776

Photoshop will always be my favourite way to directly interact with a digital image because anything you can do in any other program you can do pretty much in photoshop using standard brushes w/ tweaks and time and patience.

But... SAI is quick, light, customizable and is the best (even better than manga studio) program I've encountered for emulating physical styles digitally. I've found it a lot quicker to work in, too, since I generally build what I'm doing by just plopping down stuff and then refining it back from the information I have (just the way our art school taught us), and it's really easier to do that in SAI than in PS.

I dunno, much like all programs that digitally recreate physical shit (image editors, DAWs, etc) - whatever you work best in is your best choice. If you have the patience you can pretty much do anything in any of the high end painting programs, anyway.

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 14:38:33 2013 No.1548796
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Trying to figure out the composition for a character piece for my portfolio. The rather rough background (which I don't like) will eventually be some old gothic architecture or something, I dunno some big pillars and shit. Thoughts? Also I feel like the design is subconsciously plagiarising something haha, so if this is the case let me know and I'll try to mix it up a bit.

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 14:44:33 2013 No.1548801
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update ~ Don't know about the eyes, the picture is more real but less illustrative hmm
>>1547452
>>1547475
>>1547973
>>1547983
Thank you

>>1548590

The building is a big square I can see it from my apartment window, no I'm not in london

>>1548796
He's standing with a lot of sass for a dude wearing two sword like they weigh nothing (well maybe only the one in his left hand)

If you've got a camera or a friend try the pose out, hold some kitchen knives and see how you'd really balance like that. If it's personal work it's always worth it, putting in the extra effort

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 14:45:33 2013 No.1548803 File: 797 KB, 1536x2048, photo0147.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] wip with acrylics

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 14:48:33 2013 No.1548806 >>1548803 The table tops look off too me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 14:56:33 2013 No.1548813 File: 636 KB, 1460x1712, 1379357102245.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1548803 kinda like this but i'm off somewhat

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 15:33:33 2013 No.1548833
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>>1548801
Ah thanks for the crits. It's actually supposed to be a girl though haha, so a slightly feminine pose isn't an issue (I don't want it too sexual, but a bit feminine is okay). I reworked the stance and stuff a bit anyways though. Better?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 15:44:03 2013 No.1548839 >>1548833 Front leg looks a bit too long, also the curve to t looks weeeiird. Liking the face though. She looks like she's pulling back/away from the camera? I'd personally raise that front sword in a more defensive position.

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 15:50:02 2013 No.1548840
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>>1548801
Interesting texturework and colours! I think some more clearly defined shapes and a design based closer to a real skull would do some good. I think I went a bit overboard here and changed the intent of the piece so now it is a little more evil instead of like a little boy. But still maybe you can see how there are many more interesting shapes in among the skull and drapery. I guess a solution somewhere in the middle might be ideal. Hope that helps a bit!

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 15:57:33 2013 No.1548842 File: 292 KB, 856x1152, abbott.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1548771 I think I'll be using SAI from now on, and photoshop for certain colouring and cleaning.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 16:09:02 2013 No.1548851 File: 1.31 MB, 1136x1500, Molly drawing wip2 (small).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1548675 >>1548680 >>1548712 Here it is atm, pretty happy with it, might work on the ears a bit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 16:12:01 2013 No.1548853 >>1548842 SAI is really good for the linework, and that's all.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 16:27:02 2013 No.1548855 File: 267 KB, 1500x1084, 3wip.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] crit my wip

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 16:35:36 2013 No.1548859 I got to try a large wacom today. What was that drawing software called that's quite popular? I want to start posting frequently in these threads so I might actually get one of these wacoms.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 16:37:06 2013 No.1548861 >>1548855 Your colors are pretty good, composition is decent its a bit bland but its just practice edge work needs more love

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 16:38:06 2013 No.1548862 >>1548853 not at all, SAI has a fabulous blender and has little strain on your computer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 16:40:06 2013 No.1548863 >>1548855 well that looks surreal, with those smudged and really textured surfaces combined with the equally strong sharp edges. Like some experimental 3D from nineties. kinda cool. Modern collage/painting

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 16:43:04 2013 No.1548865 >>1548863 Problem though is it just looks unfinished, you could use more value to turn that silo more

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 16:50:35 2013 No.1548869 >>1548865 reflexes add hella depth.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 16:51:35 2013 No.1548870 >>1548869 and that I forgot to add http://www.frankrobertdixon.com/practice/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/CubeSphereConeCylinderNoBackgrnd.jpg

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:41:47 2013 No.1548917 >>1548801 i miss the 2d eyes

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 18:42:46 2013 No.1548918 >>1548833 small head

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 20:37:18 2013 No.1549000 >>1548741 >>1548738 thanks!

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 21:20:42 2013 No.1549016 File: 109 KB, 1600x1200, tiger portrait.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I tried to texture the fur with the Onta hair brush and water tool. I really don't know what I'm doing. Advice anyone?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 21:21:14 2013 No.1549018 File: 749 KB, 1600x1200, tiger portrait.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1549016 ref

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 21:25:15 2013 No.1549020 >>1549016 get more values in there. he's just shades of grey right now, get some blacks and whites in there or it'll be boring.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 21:42:00 2013 No.1549025 File: 113 KB, 1600x1200, tiger portrait.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1549020 like this? >>1548771 i know right!?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 21:51:01 2013 No.1549033 >>1548859 it's either Photoshop, Sai, Artrage, Manga Studio or Corel Painter. The first two are probably the most popular on this board.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 22:00:29 2013 No.1549039 File: 635 KB, 2048x1430, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Not a drawing, I know.... But I don't really draw.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 22:11:30 2013 No.1549042 >>1548674 >I don't have a scanner, which is why drawing digitally is pretty much my only option for my drawings to be posted online. disgusting

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 22:18:35 2013 No.1549049 File: 224 KB, 852x626, cass1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] can someone help? im not sure about the lips

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 22:18:35 2013 No.1549050 >>1548672 >2013 >paying for photoshop

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 22:20:04 2013 No.1549052 >>1549050 you can get photoshop for like $40 i think if you have a student id or something? idk friend of mine did it

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 22:22:03 2013 No.1549053 >>1549039 >fundamentals. >color theory.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 22:25:34 2013 No.1549054 >>1549053 Elaborate

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 22:33:04 2013 No.1549060

>>1549054
"post simple art, get simple advice"
google, "art fundamentals" and "color theory"

its never a good idea to go full rainbow.

you went full rainbow.

and then contrasted it with some edgy grey/black waters.
do you also write lyrics into these when done?

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 22:34:34 2013 No.1549061

>>1548732
well, the thing about adobe products is that you simply update a core file, then literally use your computer's hosts file to block adobe servers -- it can never actually try to activate -- the list of hostnames to 'block' grows larger every month

really not that scary
the software itself is legal to download
hell, you can use their trial downloaders withthis particular crack style

Anonymous Mon Sep 16 22:41:05 2013 No.1549065

>>1548732
stealing is me taking a chair from your front porch...yes.

now is it still stealing if i see the chair, like it , and then make a copy of it and leave with the copy....

thats how i view pirating. its just taking a copy of something that already exists.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 22:57:35 2013 No.1549071 >>1549065 dont ever compare pirating to a real life situation it doesnt work out you need to compare potential sales vs content usage

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 23:00:37 2013 No.1549073 >>1549071 paying for access to the data is the realm we are talking about now. not the actual product but access to the realm in where they are is the solution.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 23:04:36 2013 No.1549074 File: 738 KB, 2500x3652, sketch final.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] this one is finnished but I'd like an advice about coloring for future refference without it looking so shitty.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 23:22:55 2013 No.1549082 >>1549074 That's very nice anon. I like the idea and composition. My advice is you should practice your value more. There's too many black everywhere, add more highlight and color (saturation). Hope that helps

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 23:26:06 2013 No.1549084 >>1549074 the imperfection on the circle (bottom left) gets to me. also the red in the circle should be a little softer, and march a red in the main figures. (its too bright and takes my eye away from actual work)

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 23:30:36 2013 No.1549085 File: 33 KB, 553x622, bebebe.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's wrong with the perspective?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 23:36:37 2013 No.1549088 File: 105 KB, 569x532, sterberrer.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] came out way less simple than I had hoped, but hey

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 16 23:38:07 2013 No.1549089 File: 1.55 MB, 1952x3188, IMG_4963.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] concept sketch, suicide scene from Madama Butterfly need some help in the middle there...

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 00:02:37 2013 No.1549098 File: 170 KB, 760x477, cass1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1549049 anyone? thoughts?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 00:05:06 2013 No.1549101 >>1549098 the anatomy+perspective is incorrect. are you going off a ref? if so. post it. if no. refer to the sticky for help

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 00:09:36 2013 No.1549103 File: 539 KB, 760x477, oh god.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1549101 i actually used gmod to ref

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 00:13:57 2013 No.1549104 >>1549103 What the fuck is wrong with you man

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 00:14:30 2013 No.1549105 >>1549103 You see not everything translates well into 2D. Even if you draw it 100% correct according to reference if can still look bad if you don't pic a good composition/angle.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 00:15:28 2013 No.1549106 >>1549104 considering what i made it into... >>1549105 thanks for the tip, i guess ill try again

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 01:12:29 2013 No.1549123 File: 1.92 MB, 1683x1281, photo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Working on this for my studio class. Need s more work all around, but I'm happy how it's turning out so afar

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 01:20:30 2013 No.1549124

>>1549123
are you trolling,
>its scratchy
>tone is fucked
>subject matter is basically a sphere...
you should not be happy about this.
you should be very sad.

read the sticky
it will save you money.
if any teacher says you are doing "well" they are lying to your face for cash.

>>	Cuda !DGV/Mgd8YQ Tue Sep 17 01:25:57 2013 No.1549125 File: 180 KB, 860x503, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Thoughts?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 01:26:57 2013 No.1549126 >>1549123 neato, love the quality of light and the detail on the screw, what's the medium? you might do well to have some really black blacks in the occlusion shadows and maybe a bit more emphasis on the shadow core, but not necessarily.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 01:29:58 2013 No.1549127 >>1549124 Well, it's not like I'm done with it. I did say I was working on it. Either way, you are right about it being scratchy and about the tones. All a work in progress.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 01:37:59 2013 No.1549128 >>1549126 Thanks for the suggestions. I'm using compressed and vine charcoal.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 02:00:58 2013 No.1549137 File: 341 KB, 1281x1761, Pretty Toy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Current work

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 02:25:54 2013 No.1549140 File: 295 KB, 894x779, mikasawip1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Haven't drawn in a few weeks, just something more relaxed to get the juices going.

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 02:30:22 2013 No.1549142

>>1548833
The anatomy is alright, but the head as well as the wings are rather small for his size. You might want to re-position his shoulders up and a bit further back in more of a battle ready stance, also looks a bit of a Cenobite from Hellraiser

>>1549137
trace over(first time) for more visable detail, I'm all ears to what you have to say

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 02:31:24 2013 No.1549143 File: 1.36 MB, 1281x1761, Pretty Toy-WIP.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1549142 captcha fucked my last post up, here is the pic

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 02:33:54 2013 No.1549144 >>1549142 my bad on the His

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 02:47:23 2013 No.1549148
File: 2.59 MB, 2317x2314, CIMG9245-Modifier2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>1549089
Love it!
>>1549074
Love that stuff too, remind me of bioshock <3

http://images.4chan.org/ic/src/1379361725937.jpg

Here is my current WIP, i'll have to finish it quick because of school...

Pic is just a photomanipulation i made some time ago.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 03:22:13 2013 No.1549154 File: 299 KB, 980x1380, megucaa.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm not sure how you guys feel about anime but here's something I'm working on. I'm from /a/ and have no experience with real art. Any glaring issues?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 03:33:45 2013 No.1549155 >>1549154 neck feels slightly too long..

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 03:34:45 2013 No.1549156 would you ever tell somebody your secret processes that make your work unique?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 03:38:44 2013 No.1549158 >>1549154 Theres an anime thread for f/a/gs such as yourself Lurk more

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 03:42:15 2013 No.1549160 >>1549158 Whoops, sorry. Deleted.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 03:43:14 2013 No.1549162 >>1549156 .....no for that is a paradox for if i told it would no longer be a secret so for it to remain a secret i must not tell.

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 04:31:14 2013 No.1549172
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still in early stages. (for anyone just browsing i just mis posted this lol) but it will be easier to change gesture issues at this stage than later. any critiques or comments?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 04:38:19 2013 No.1549175 >>1549172 are you drawing from a reference? if so, post it. if not. refer to the sticky on how to improve. the anatomy and perspective on both figures is wrong.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 04:42:20 2013 No.1549176 File: 953 KB, 610x610, facestudy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] crit plz. i know its different, but thats kinda the point... does it look like its ment to look like that. or does it look like rubbish

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 06:24:42 2013 No.1549204 File: 579 KB, 1000x1000, linepractice.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1549176 It's interesting linepractice.png

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 06:33:41 2013 No.1549205 >>1549204 you may want to have guides so you're 'aiming' your line from one place to another, gives you a way to tell if a line failed or not, it's what you're going to use lines for mainly while drawing, and it may help you get used to ghosting them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 06:35:42 2013 No.1549206 File: 239 KB, 1179x1050, Alex.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] crit?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 06:36:43 2013 No.1549207 File: 11 KB, 200x164, alexandra-daddario.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1549206 reference

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 06:50:27 2013 No.1549211
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This is a wip of a shee from the Creatures games I've been working on. But the bigest problem is that I really suck with colours and shading, which I wanted to practice by first shading in greytones. But nowI'm stuck at choosing colours for the clothes. It's hard to find something that doesn't clash with her blue skin and purple hair, but still has this rich traditional feel. Any suggestions?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 06:52:28 2013 No.1549212 >>1549206 cute drawing but it has most of the things wrong with it that /ic/ hates so get ready for an ass pounding.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 06:52:58 2013 No.1549213 >>1549206 draw larger. use larger ref.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 07:12:00 2013 No.1549215 >>1549211 blue

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 08:22:31 2013 No.1549229 >>1548801 i like the lighting, looking forward to seeing this finished

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 08:24:00 2013 No.1549230 >>1548833 ehh i think you should try some more thumbnails. the pose is pretty static, not to mention kinda unbalanced, and her left sword is going off page

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 08:26:30 2013 No.1549231 >>1548855 needs form

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 08:40:21 2013 No.1549237 how do i make this print better.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 08:56:22 2013 No.1549243 File: 287 KB, 745x1072, monotype.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how do i make this print pop more. while keeping it pretty flat and opaque

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 09:01:22 2013 No.1549245 http://m4.aimg.sk/forig/f_448893555_4821a0ea8a388ad69f39bc9ce7d57890.jpg

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 09:02:22 2013 No.1549247 >>1549245 what the fuck am i looking at?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 09:02:22 2013 No.1549248 >>1549243 Be less sloppy and messy about your strokes. All that mess confuses and distracts. Power can come with elegance and simplicity. Make every stroke count and actualy say something.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 09:03:23 2013 No.1549249 >>1549243 pop is the opposite of flat, so it's not possible. that being said, you could try modelling the face a bit with a few highlights.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 09:04:53 2013 No.1549250 File: 126 KB, 1111x556, f_448893555_4821a0ea8a388ad69f39bc9ce7d57890[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 09:13:52 2013 No.1549256

>>1549249
>pop is the opposite of flat, so it's not possible.

That's completely incorrect. Even in the most simplest terms, graphic designers make things pop all the time (it's really their word) even when dealing only with flat shapes.

Value, the size of lines, color, shapes, composition. All of these things can make something pop.

>>1549243
Light value around the neck, both sides, will further differentiate the face from the background and bring it forward. I know you've done something with that vertical line that cuts through the front of the space and then divides the light background from the darker area, but maybe that could be a wide stripe instead? Maybe the light could pick back up closer to where the neck meets the collar? Just a thought.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 09:19:54 2013 No.1549260 >>1549248 thanks >>1549256 i will try you're advice tomorrow thank you

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 09:22:38 2013 No.1549261

>>1549256
no it's correct that's what pop means, your spazzy brain just can't understand how push works. pop is making depth, rounding out elements bringing some forward, pushing some back. depth = pop. even your 'flat shapes' as if there were such a thing, have a relative depth. so nerr

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 09:44:56 2013 No.1549265
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>>1549261
this shit right here most defiantly "pops"
using color to do so and not relying on (but still using) other aspect of line, tone and values.
but the pop (no not pop art but actual POP) is achieved through the color and color alone.

pop can be achieved with color and color alone.

or line and just line alone.

its all about how you use the tools available to you.

also
pop is not just
>making depth
it is making a portion of an image or a whole image stand out.

you can have a single letter in a word "pop" by having it colored and leaving all other characters grey.
"pop without depth"

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 10:06:56 2013 No.1549273

>>1549265
yes as i said you can't understand push, because you're a spaz, so you misunderstand pop and attribute it to a myriad of elements where infact it's a simple illusion of depth. red pops on blue because the red is relatively 'close' the plane, high contrast pops because it increases the read of depth.

a colored word is in a field of grey pops because it's pulled closer to the plane (or the grey is pushed, is relative thing)

i pity your poor sightless eyes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 10:14:26 2013 No.1549275 >>1549215 Wouldn't that be a bit boring?

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 10:26:58 2013 No.1549279

>>1549275
i don't think so. there aren't that many options, maybe a pale yellow sort of parchment color if you want her to be like a priestess. red, or tyrian purple would be okay. if you were careful a sort of jade green even. but having a more limited palette gives a more classical look which is what you wanted right?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 11:16:17 2013 No.1549308 File: 270 KB, 1500x1084, web.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1548863 >>1548861 really appreciate the help heres an update

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 11:34:16 2013 No.1549311
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>>1549308
the water tower thing doesn't quite read as a cylinder and infact it's lid thing reads flat too (as if it were a triangle).

here's it sorta fixed up a bit so you can see what the problem is.

i don't have time to put in all the lines and junk to show you how things should relate to the horizon so hopefully someone else will.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 11:38:46 2013 No.1549312 >>1549207 What is this, a reference for ants?

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 12:20:47 2013 No.1549322
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wip

>>1548840
That's really nice, if one thing you made me look up pictures of child skulls, I have a bad habit of neglecting refference till it's too late ( too much ego, I think) Thanks for the paintover

>>1548917
I'm being indecisive about them, I feel like the 3d eyes convey the emotion I'm after more while the 2d ones are much more illustrative/ have higher impact

>>1549308
If your selling point is the silo being wrapped in roots, have you considered another angle?

Like it's been left alone for long enough that a tree could grow up around it, yet it's very clean, and the plantation is very limited (only one tree, and that happened to grow up around it?)

How does the tree support itself? Only a very small part of it actually touches the ground to 'rest'. It feels very collage-ish when there's almost no lost edges to join things togethor

I like it and would like to see it finished, please go on

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 12:33:18 2013 No.1549327 File: 321 KB, 1500x1238, sketches1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Eternal10k !!rMiMuhb/ZZE Tue Sep 17 12:40:17 2013 No.1549328 File: 564 KB, 800x1280, Sketch161152034.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Doodle On A Galaxy Note

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 12:45:17 2013 No.1549329 >>1549327 yaay

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 13:02:09 2013 No.1549332 >>1549328 shit man, how do you blend like that? airbrush?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 13:09:38 2013 No.1549335 >>1549025 Requesting critique on my tiger. Also tips on rendering fur.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 13:48:28 2013 No.1549345 >>1549312 :D nice

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 14:15:33 2013 No.1549360 >>1549322 you got a blog or something?

>>	Eternal10k !!rMiMuhb/ZZE Tue Sep 17 15:09:02 2013 No.1549380 >>1549332 yep, sketchbook pro's airbrush tool low opa

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 15:14:02 2013 No.1549382 File: 106 KB, 1041x1516, run.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] composition practice, I took a painting on deviantart that I thought had shitty composition and attempted to 'fix' it, although I think it ended up just being too circular.

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 15:43:00 2013 No.1549392

>>1549382
That sounds like a fucking terrible practice. You aren't learning anything from that, you're just stroking your ego, thinking you know more about composition than the random guy who you think is shitty at it. Go study artists who have great compositions instead and then do your own thumbnails with those studies in mind.

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 15:53:31 2013 No.1549399

>>1549392
This isn't the first composition practice I have ever done, you realise that right? I'm just putting knowledge into practice.
>stroking your ego,
nope, I don't even think I'm good at composition, it';s one of my main weak points, and it's not like I'm going to show the artist this picture, it was just a random painting that I thought had a boring composition.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 15:57:31 2013 No.1549402 >>1549392 >You aren't learning anything from that, Also what makes you think that? I am learning from the mistakes of others, so I don't make the same mistakes, at the same time drilling myself in the principles of composition.

Dune !!vQzb8NfaT1N Tue Sep 17 16:06:01 2013 No.1549410

>>1549382
I've got an idea for you, and anyone else looking to practice composition.

Watch Feng Zhu's (I think Gnomon) tutorial on perspective and composition and setting up scenes. He mentions a lot of great compositional elements to add that you'll find in many pictures.
Then, go to Khang Le's site. Download a bunch of pictures that look good to you, and recreate them in their relative location values (Foreground black, background white etc). Then, on a layer above with a hard red, mark off these things as you see them.
>Elements on the side that frame the picture
>Repetition of objects used to create depth and scale
>Use of the golden ratio or spiral
>Mark off the path your eye moves through it and how the audience is guided around.
>Point out the foreground elements that bring the viewer into the scene (stairs, roads)
>Point out how scale relative to human size is shown
>Find the "big payoff" at the end of the picture
>Note changes in detail and the focal points

Don't get too focused on getting details in, this is to help you drill the useful elements into your brain as you go about your own work. Doing a master study like this will give you a sense of practice with more complex pictures without actually having to come up with the ideas ahead of time.

>>	Dune !!vQzb8NfaT1N Tue Sep 17 16:07:01 2013 No.1549412 File: 545 KB, 730x1355, khangstudy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Odd, the picture didn't upload. Anyway, here's an example. I'm sure you could do this for any artist, but Khang was the first I found that stuck to these "rules".

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 16:12:39 2013 No.1549415 >>1549412 >>1549410 Thanks this was helpful advice, I have been Watching Feng Zhu's videos for a while and just got back into them recently so I will watch some of his composition videos tonight, going to look into Khang Le too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 16:25:39 2013 No.1549424 >>1549415 Very welcome.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 16:31:09 2013 No.1549427 File: 1.01 MB, 815x967, 4fb4cb366106b8c74aca77efeba9b934.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How is it so far? Right arm is dogshit, need to find some good refs for it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 16:38:38 2013 No.1549431 >>1549412 what am i even looking at here.......

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 16:41:08 2013 No.1549432 File: 41 KB, 768x512, m6ka.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 16:42:09 2013 No.1549433 >>1549431 read the above post.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 17:04:39 2013 No.1549440 his robot arm is gorilla long

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 17:32:01 2013 No.1549454 >>1549427 >Good detail on face >entire body is shit. Crop it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 17:58:01 2013 No.1549466 >>1549454 Bad advice, don't just crop it, finish it now, and work on the areas that you're weakest.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 18:09:31 2013 No.1549471 File: 205 KB, 1000x921, 3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1549329 uwaaa

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 18:12:01 2013 No.1549472 Neat interview. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbN8wbRz9i8 Vilppu is 2moe4me

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 18:19:31 2013 No.1549473 >>1549472 Damn, proko is awkward.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 18:19:31 2013 No.1549474 File: 153 KB, 800x737, 3sm.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] from life (mostly)

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 18:21:01 2013 No.1549476 >>1549474 you mean you actually took your tablet out and painted this? Anyway I like it a lot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 18:24:07 2013 No.1549477 >>1549473 He's in the presence of his hero, anon. But, yeah, the guy's pretty goofy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 18:25:05 2013 No.1549478 >>1549477 YEah I thought that might have something to do with it, but it made me really uncomfortable to watch (because it's exactly how I behave when I'm uncomfortable.)

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 18:28:04 2013 No.1549479 >>1549476 yeh. thanks! i do a lot of these, i really enjoy them/learn a lot

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 18:32:04 2013 No.1549480 >mfw /ic/ approves of proko yet hates on ateliers >yfw stan prokopenko was trained for years at the watts atelier

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 18:37:35 2013 No.1549483 >>1549478 He seems to settle down about halfway in.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 18:52:05 2013 No.1549489 >>1549479 seems really impractical to do digital painting outdoors, do you have any advice?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 18:56:05 2013 No.1549491 File: 276 KB, 2000x949, skin tones.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] studying skin tones and colors. Any pointers greatly appreciated.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 19:02:07 2013 No.1549492 >>1549491 You're not shading with black which is a good start but you seem to be lowering the saturation where you don't need to which is resulting it it look muddy,

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 19:04:37 2013 No.1549493 File: 220 KB, 715x800, skulls.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] skulls from head

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 19:05:07 2013 No.1549494 >>1549493 good work on getting some form but they look kind of cubic and flat.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 19:07:37 2013 No.1549497 >>1549492 am I lowering the saturation to much in the shadows, midtones or highlights ? Thanks!!

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 19:08:37 2013 No.1549498 >>1549497 Shadows, sorry, although i could give you more specific advice if you post some ref.

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 19:13:38 2013 No.1549503
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>>1549489
i use an old slate tablet and i dont recommend it. youll fight with weight, expense, battery, and colour when you could just pick up a watercolour or oils set. this ones a couple weeks old now.
i wrote a bunch of shit for an iFX special on digital plein air painting which i thinki is still out if you're still interested, there are also much better artists in there divulging their approaches.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 19:13:38 2013 No.1549504 File: 164 KB, 409x466, hx7xhblz.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1549493 Highlighted the one thing I noticed was wrong, hope it helps

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 19:20:10 2013 No.1549509 >>1549498 cool gonna do another one in a bit ill try to adjust. thanks. ill post the ref then also

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 19:22:38 2013 No.1549510 >>1549504 But thats wrong...

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 19:31:26 2013 No.1549517 >>1549510 How so?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 19:52:56 2013 No.1549524 >>1549273 you have just confirmed that guys post as correcting everything you said in your prier post.... all the while calling people names and being incorrect. there are like 3 people against you here in this argument...learn to be corrected.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 19:53:24 2013 No.1549526 >>1549524 don't feed the obvious troll man

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 21:05:23 2013 No.1549540
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besides the anatomy which ill fix when i paint, hows the colouring looking....i feel mine is not saturated enough...i always have a hard time with colour.

if anyone knows any good resources for colouring, like books magazines or something related to photoshop colouring/colour theory could you please link it to me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 21:39:26 2013 No.1549548 >>1549540 have another look at his nose... also: Color and Light: A Guide for the Realist Painter by James Gurney

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 21:43:25 2013 No.1549551 >>1549548 thx nose needs to be smaller, ill also check out that book,

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 21:51:23 2013 No.1549556

>>1549540

Try to get a better gesture for the lion. Look for the anatomical structure and the weight of the body, resting on the ground and the front legs. Rebuild that. Don't try to copy the outlines.
Don't try to achieve a perfect likeness, but instead try to make it look 3dimensional, have mass. Even BEFORE you slap on colours.

sage Tue Sep 17 22:00:23 2013 No.1549560 [DELETED]

>>1549540
you should learn values before oyu learn color

everyone alwayss says oh man color this color that i need to learn coloring but in reality they are shit at values and anyone who is good at painting will tell you values are the lynchpin to understanding color

tldr learn to draw

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 22:01:54 2013 No.1549563

>>1549540
you should learn values before oyu learn color

everyone alwayss says oh man color this color that i need to learn coloring but in reality they are shit at values and anyone who is good at painting will tell you values are the lynchpin to understanding color

tldr learn to draw

Anonymous Tue Sep 17 22:12:24 2013 No.1549564

>>1549540
hey man, i painted the tiger above. apparently I'm a master since no one can find anything to critique. :P can you tell me what technique you're using for the fur texture?

I think your mane isn't saturated enough. or maybe it's the value. I don't trust myself enough with color yet so I'm not sure

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 22:20:54 2013 No.1549568 File: 81 KB, 1082x962, SKINN.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1549492 new skin study. tips please !

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 22:25:39 2013 No.1549571 >>1549568 draw what's there muchacho, you made 90% of that up.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 22:27:41 2013 No.1549572 >>1549568 this >>1549571

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 22:28:39 2013 No.1549573 >>1549571 are you talking about likeness ? Because i was not focusing on that, only colors and values

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 22:32:40 2013 No.1549575 >>1549568 your hues are more orange than on the figure. Shift them closer to pink. Squint your eyes and you;; see hat I mean

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 22:34:10 2013 No.1549577 >>1549575 However, i'm thinking that may look that way. in part, due to the darker value blue you painted behind her

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 22:38:10 2013 No.1549578 >>1549568 you have outlined the body with a tone that is far too dark and takes away from the skin tones on the inside.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 22:41:40 2013 No.1549579 File: 146 KB, 1082x962, armz.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1549568 fixed

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 22:46:41 2013 No.1549580 >>1549579 lol yeah i failed with the hand

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 23:12:14 2013 No.1549593 File: 845 KB, 2158x1673, This.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] critic

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 23:16:15 2013 No.1549595 >>1549593 make sure you're using tone to model the form, not just copying lights and darks off of the photo

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 17 23:45:17 2013 No.1549616 File: 255 KB, 500x818, monk.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] A quick sketch before bed...

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 02:05:43 2013 No.1549652 >>1549579 >>1549580 how the fuck does that happen jesus

>>	FiRez !!tndrCZJHE+I Wed Sep 18 02:23:58 2013 No.1549661 File: 94 KB, 540x600, mechadoodle.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] .

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 02:25:31 2013 No.1549662 File: 109 KB, 1000x810, Yay.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I am pretty proud of my ball shading technique. I made it pretty realistic. I should just keep drawing balls and shade them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 02:27:30 2013 No.1549664 File: 972 KB, 1250x1808, spacewalker01low.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1548661 /ic/ is dying you say? how about some space walkers to lighten the mood?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 02:29:29 2013 No.1549667 File: 616 KB, 1250x955, spacewalker02low.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1549664 made these with pen and bit of photoshop.

Anonymous Wed Sep 18 02:38:00 2013 No.1549671

>>1549662
many problems bro.

a) perspective is fucked, if you're going to go out of your way to include a horizon, don't ignore it.

b) no definition in the shadows, shadows aren't just solid tone, they change depending on reflected light.

c) the lighting on the ball especially is completely unrealistic. basically 'pillow shading'

d) no occlusion shadows on ground, so weird looking.
if you need clarification about anything ask me

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 02:39:59 2013 No.1549672 >>1549667 >>1549664 awesome! keep it up, is working.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 03:23:50 2013 No.1549707 >>1549074 You look like a dickbag IRL

Conmana Wed Sep 18 03:44:50 2013 No.1549724
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Any thoughts on the rendering? I'm trying to push sharpness considering so many of my images lack it. While pushing this Rendering that doesnt read as over rendering. I do like it so far. The blue secondary light source is a tad confusing combined with the yellow that isnt affecting the armor I'll fix that with a soft light layer.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 03:44:50 2013 No.1549725 >>1549667 letting you know this is my new desktop

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 03:50:38 2013 No.1549731 File: 54 KB, 600x849, samus.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] help

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 03:56:08 2013 No.1549732 >>1549725 ok bb. <3

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 04:24:22 2013 No.1549749 >>1549731 Where's her penis?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 04:30:23 2013 No.1549757 >>1548674 can't you just buy a scanner? these things cost like 20 bucks nowadays, and besides if you are going to edit your drawings on the pc, can't you just take a picture of it or something?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 04:36:52 2013 No.1549764 >>1548780 Have you ever worked with sketchbook designer? can you recommend it? i've got a free suscription for it, but i thought it would be better to invest my time into photoshop

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 08:40:52 2013 No.1549829 >>1549731 Simplify forms, construct the figure from spheres, cylinders, cubes. Some proportions can't hurt either.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 08:55:23 2013 No.1549835 File: 1.32 MB, 1920x1080, Screenshot from 2013-09-18 14:53:09.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] First time I have drawn in a the last few months... >tfw art block.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 08:56:53 2013 No.1549836 >>1549503 This makes me want to get a slate...

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 09:39:44 2013 No.1549867 >>1549835 use hard brushes to block in and do everything, only then soft ones to blend.

Anonymous Wed Sep 18 10:09:32 2013 No.1549885

>>1549867
that is a hard brush, with low opacity and some kinda texture.

>>1549835
anyway i have a small piece of advice for you which has a lot of caveats so be careful with it.

in painting there are colors, like blue red yellow etc. then there are greys like black, grey and white. these can be a tiny bit colored, so you might have say, black with a red bias or 50% grey with a green bias.

now here is the advice, in a colored painting don't use greys at all. you can have dark red, that's fine but not black. you can have bright pink, but not white. get it?

then at the end when you're picture is done, entirely without grey, you can add in some black here and there as accents and whites here and there as highlights.

'but but that's crazy' i hear you splutter, 'there's heaps of grey irl.'

and so there is, but it's not very often 'just grey' this will help you see the other colors in it and will also help you mix or pick nice clean colors that read well.

give it a go, if you don't like it stop. is fine.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 10:14:31 2013 No.1549889 >>1548840 >>1549322 any plans to sell the finished pieces?

Anonymous Wed Sep 18 10:41:01 2013 No.1549901
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>>1549867
I use the default chalkboard, I need to tweak the flow a bi though.

>>1549885
Thanks for the tips, I normally start with a colored canvas intead of a grey one, but this piece just started out as a sketch. I'll try the "use black/white after you are done" thing out in my next piece, thanks!

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 10:49:31 2013 No.1549905 File: 267 KB, 1002x946, android.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] dicking around in SAI

Anonymous Wed Sep 18 10:59:31 2013 No.1549907
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>>1549503
new life painting wips

>>1549901
paint simple things from life first, even in grayscale. the hardness of your starting brush is not the problem, it's understanding of colour masses divided by edges. also work from life or reference to gain understanding of how to draw faces, wait on full colour for now.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 11:04:32 2013 No.1549909 File: 238 KB, 723x1023, android.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1549905 wrong file, can't get that one to delete, oh well

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 11:47:38 2013 No.1549924 File: 44 KB, 413x473, capdrawen.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Name's cap'n Drawen... Drawen Leikshet.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 11:50:09 2013 No.1549927 >>1549905 Stop dicking around and start learning.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 12:10:08 2013 No.1549934 File: 2.13 MB, 2592x1936, photo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1549123 Worked on the tones and quality. It's still not there yet, especially with the values on the fabric. Any suggestions or comments on it? I'm a bit rusty.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 12:24:39 2013 No.1549939 >>1549934 try taking a worse photograph

Anonymous Wed Sep 18 12:26:09 2013 No.1549940
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>>1549934

You've completely lost your subject by adding too much. It's overworked, messy and lacks contrast in the right areas.
The environment kind of overwhelms the subject, the cast shadow below the subject is way too dark.
You've got a tangential shade touching the tip of the screw, which confuses the depth.

It actually was better before. It doesn't help your subject is shit.

Anonymous Wed Sep 18 12:59:10 2013 No.1549951

>>1549940
Can't argue with that. I feel the same way too about the environment. In that respect, it was better in my first one. That include the screw too. I'm curious though, what do you feel is bad about my subject? Sure it's not perfect, but I just want your opinion.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 13:05:59 2013 No.1549956 File: 436 KB, 1261x700, 141.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1549724 Your image is too muddy and dark. Try bringing in more light and colour to the image.

Anonymous Wed Sep 18 13:07:58 2013 No.1549959

>>1549956
Also forgot to mention that the design is a bit overly repetitive in my opinion, just lots of overlapping sheets. Try getting a couple bigger shapes in there instead of all those little ones...

The cropping is awkward too, I'd extend the canvas and get his entire head in there.

Anonymous Wed Sep 18 13:10:01 2013 No.1549962
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I did this in SketchUp first, imported a jpeg to Photoshop and worked with masks for the first time. They are quite useful.
What do you think of the composition? The focal point is the gate, I'll draw a fire or a creature there.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 13:15:59 2013 No.1549969 >>1549907 I like those colors on the right half.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 13:45:59 2013 No.1549984 >>1549025 >>1549335 come on, anyone? the tiger?

Conmana Wed Sep 18 13:54:47 2013 No.1549988
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>>1549956

You were the guy that painted over my mooman right?
I agree its too dark right now im trying to work with the trifecta of design its more of the duo of design atm

Ill see what I can do with the curve tool to make it a bit more pop

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 13:59:49 2013 No.1549990 File: 913 KB, 1250x1688, spiralgarden.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] little something i made while on break at work over the last couple weeks. spiral garden.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 14:04:17 2013 No.1549993 >>1549984 From my experience, if /ic/ does not reply or critique your work then you most likely are doing something right and no one has any comments or critique. But that's just me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 14:25:48 2013 No.1550004 File: 2.46 MB, 3264x2448, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm not very good at this

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 14:35:48 2013 No.1550005 >>1550004 Should've used masking fluid.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 14:47:19 2013 No.1550010 >>1550005 What's that? Like to resist the paint?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 15:00:49 2013 No.1550015 >>1549616 >>1549661 I like.

>>	maladroit Wed Sep 18 15:04:19 2013 No.1550018 File: 199 KB, 1920x1200, spy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] whadd'ya think, is this ready for coloring?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 15:06:17 2013 No.1550019 File: 322 KB, 1000x959, shadow3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1549969 thanks. tightening up. >>1549962 it's ok.. it could work with a great piece but it's not a great start. thumbnail more.

Anonymous Wed Sep 18 15:08:18 2013 No.1550021

>>1550010

Yeah, to protect the silhouette of reptar from doing the background, so you can later paint it in after removing the masking fluid. Without the background getting in the way and having to paint opaquely which could disturb or cover your outline.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 15:21:19 2013 No.1550025 >>1549503 >>1549907 I like your use of colors. Pleasant to look at.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 15:30:48 2013 No.1550029 File: 1.27 MB, 1169x1500, Molly drawing final(small).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1548851 Finished version

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 15:35:18 2013 No.1550032 What ever happened to mikufag? I miss his mikus with their soulless eyes.

Anonymous Wed Sep 18 15:40:18 2013 No.1550034
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>>1549564
hey, this is how i would do it, i havnt done fur much so still learning, but i usually do it like i do hair, i use very thin darker or ligher shades of the area of hair colour depending on the light source. i also fixed the eyes a bit, they looked uneven.. btw do you draw daily?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 15:45:48 2013 No.1550036 >>1550029 I'd push some darker values with a 6B or 8B. Don't be afraid to get some rich blacks.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 15:49:49 2013 No.1550037 nother skin study .. tips ? thanks !

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 15:50:18 2013 No.1550038 >>1550036 I probably will next time round if I'm on proper paper.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 15:50:48 2013 No.1550039 File: 87 KB, 1371x913, skinnu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1550037

Anonymous Wed Sep 18 15:55:17 2013 No.1550044

>>1550039

Look at the thumbnail. See the difference?
Flatten your values, get a different brush, this one makes it only messier than it needs to be.
And get more reds in the skin, give the poor girl some blood.
Get rid of your outlines as well, especially the ones on the thighs, they mess up the values.

Anonymous Wed Sep 18 15:57:47 2013 No.1550046

>>1550039
You are just awful. jesus.
Terrible brush control, Use bigger brushes and stop trying to use texture, you dont know how to use the normal brushes.
Learn how to shape form with value, study some master works to try and understand how its painted.
Stop using black to add value, you're fucking up the reflected light, its red and other warm hues in that darker value, not dark brown/black.

You need to learn how to draw before you set out to study skin, you don't know what the hell is going on with the body that effects the tone and hue of the skin.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 16:05:48 2013 No.1550050 >>1550044 what do you mean by flatten your values ? thanks next one im gonna do is from memory to see id i learned something so far

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 16:12:48 2013 No.1550051 >>1550046 learn to critique bro. This will get you nowhere in life. Also, nobody will take into account a crit given by a douchebag

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 16:22:47 2013 No.1550054 >>1550051 >Don't be mean on /ic/! No, that anon had a good point within his insults, and thats what matters more than his poor attitude. When did the kids take over /ic/

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 16:26:50 2013 No.1550057 >>1550054 He's right though, throwing pointless insults aren't cool and it definitely won't make you fit in.

Anonymous Wed Sep 18 16:29:49 2013 No.1550058
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>>1550050
Not the other anon, but here is a quick demo showing what flattening your values means. Basically you reduce variation within each section (light section and shadow section).

Here is an example, using a ball. On the left there is a two value system, you can see that within the shadows there is little variation, same with within the lights. It reads clearly as a ball made of some matte material. On the right is an example of overrendering, where additional values were put in. You can see it starts to lose the feel as a ball, and the reflected light looks like a full on light source now--you can't tell it is supposed to be a shadow.

If the same principle were applied over the entire figure, then it would be more dramatic. Generally it is best to paint like on the left. note too how the local colour is easy to identify in the left ball, but on the right it is more ambiguous.

Probably would have been better to paint in the cast shadow in my example as it would show that the reflected light is fucked and that it isn't a secondary light source, ah well.

Anonymous Wed Sep 18 16:30:19 2013 No.1550059

>>1550057
hes right, giving someone a crit and wrapping it up in a shit box isnt going to make someone better, no matter how good the crit is...itll just make people not want to do art....no one here is a master, some are great painters here but we are all learning...thats why were fukin here.

Anonymous Wed Sep 18 16:33:18 2013 No.1550060

>>1550054
>insults
It's not about insults. Do not coagulate critique with insults. That gives you away as a child here. With crits, the artist is supposed to detach themselves from their work. How can an artist detach when the opening line is.
>You are just awful. jesus.
It could instead be.
>Your work is just awful. jesus.
And I'm not telling anyone to change the way they write or how they feel. I am offering insight on why you shouldn't be surprised when someone gets mad with how you handle their work. That said. I don't find the artist's work particularly awful. It's like when people say 0/10 and 10/10. The artist has some abilities here, clearly. Spend more time observing before you go apeshit.

Anonymous Wed Sep 18 16:34:18 2013 No.1550061
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I know, I suck and have to study anatomy and gestures more, but can I still get a redline for this? Is it even savable?
I also know that the gesture is not nearly dynamic enough and the right guy doesn't look like he just delivered a powerful punch. It didn't really turn out the way I imagined it.

It's kind of frustrating that this is all I'm capable of producing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 16:34:18 2013 No.1550062 >>1550059 fuckin cry bro. fuckin cry about it

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 16:38:47 2013 No.1550067 >>1550059 >>1550060 how refreshing, some decent people on ic after all

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 16:39:48 2013 No.1550069 >>1550061 your auto critique is pretty spot on

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 16:39:48 2013 No.1550070 >>1550062 one day you will grow out of your douche attitude and you'll realize that it's pretty cool to be nice to other people, especially those that share common interests

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 16:41:18 2013 No.1550073 File: 112 KB, 665x400, values.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1550058 here, added some cast shadows, maybe this shows it better

Anonymous Wed Sep 18 16:43:15 2013 No.1550074

>>1550061
Stand up, and find a full length mirror. Now throw a punch. take note of how you do it, how your body starts and ends. You will see a strong twist as you throw the punch, probably you will take a step as you do it too. Figure out where your other arm goes naturally. try to see how your whole body moves. Now get this in your drawing. Same with the other guy.

Also, you can look at videos of boxers and freeze the frame to study their postures.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 16:47:44 2013 No.1550077 >>1549889 here, i'm also really interested in purchasing >>1549988

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 16:52:45 2013 No.1550081 >>1550077 You do realize that every one of those is painted digitally, so exists only as a file of 1's and 0's. If you want to hang it on your wall you will need to print it out.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 16:55:45 2013 No.1550085 >>1550081 sorry, should have clarified, i wanted to commission it on canvas for $75- $100 a piece

Anonymous Wed Sep 18 16:56:16 2013 No.1550086
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>>1550073
thanks, only saw it now. I think this piece from imagination suffers from it also. I think it might be just because its to sketchy and i need to spend more time smoothing it out.

this one is pretty ugly but better than waht i could do before i think

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 17:04:45 2013 No.1550091 >>1550086 that's one of the most awkward poses i've seen. you can do better.

Anonymous Wed Sep 18 17:04:45 2013 No.1550092
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>>1550046
>>1550039
Heres a quick paintover to illustrate my points.

I don't care what you guys think, a mean spirited crit is still productive as long as it contains productive material. I was reacting to his replies earlier, which rubbed me the wrong way.
And in no way am i "trying to fit in", i've been here several years.

>>1550086
This isn't going to help you in the long run, you just don't know enough to pull shit out of your head.
If you want to do that you really need to study more, people who can pull anatomy and shit like that from their head draw all day long (See: Kim jung gi).

I suggest doing more studies but really still trying to improve your drawing (You painting really screams that you are quite immature with your drawing. )

You're trying to run before you can fully walk, cut that out.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 17:11:44 2013 No.1550093 File: 272 KB, 747x561, sketch1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 20 minute sketch, how is it looking so far?

Anonymous Wed Sep 18 17:19:14 2013 No.1550094

>>1550092
thanks for the crit.
i dont see how my replies could have ''rubbed you the wrong way''

I agree that my drawing lacks but i was really just rushing a sketch as quick as i could to concentrate on the subject i wanted to improve. I will spend more time on the drawing for the next one.

the paintover is really nice. it looks so alive
are you using smudge tool or a soft brush ?

Anonymous Wed Sep 18 17:22:15 2013 No.1550096
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>>1550086
Yeah that also suffers overrendering. The other issue is that it is painted very thinly. The transparent strokes overlap and create a dirty light look. Here I did a quick paintover to show the power of a two value system. Even without blending the shadows into the lights, you can achieve a cleaner more readable look.

Also ignore the part where >>1550092 says to not try painting out of your head. You should always do that to apply what you learn. If you do studies all day long and never apply it you can't just magically do what kin jung gi does.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 17:22:44 2013 No.1550095 >>1550094 90% hard round 5% soft 5% smart blur filter so i could see where my values and color was.

Anonymous Wed Sep 18 17:40:14 2013 No.1550102

>>1550096
I didn't mean to say to never do it, but at this point in the game there is little reason to.
What i should have said is that you should try flexing the muscles, but do it alongside with a ref to keep it on track.

I dont know if anyone has TehMehs talk about it, but he said it really well.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 17:44:45 2013 No.1550107 File: 344 KB, 800x533, blarg_by_maxyme.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1550093 here's my ref

>>	Conmana Wed Sep 18 18:37:14 2013 No.1550133 >>1550085 You do realize getting these types of images on canvas is stupidly expensive you could get poster material but for that price range you're pretty much screwed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 19:00:14 2013 No.1550147 >>1550133 i meant commission a painting of it, but i was worried that 75-100 wouldn't be enough

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 20:05:09 2013 No.1550170 File: 553 KB, 754x502, contrast.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] contrast is one of my weakest fronts, any advice?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 20:18:10 2013 No.1550173 >>1549579 FUCK! SOMEBODY CALL A DOCTOR!

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 20:18:40 2013 No.1550174 >>1550170 Value studies

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 20:20:40 2013 No.1550176 >>1550170 needs more orange

Anonymous Wed Sep 18 20:21:10 2013 No.1550178
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>>1550170

Stop being afraid and use the colours you see, not the colours you'd think. Use the reds, blow out that white.
Don't get distracted by details like the serratus and just draw them in like that.

Check your torso and abdominal construction first though, they're faulty.
Anyway, I don't think this is the best object of study for studying values with contrast. Since a big part of the figure is obfuscated and values are rather blown out. And the image is obviously edited.
Also, when focusing on practicing contrast, focusing on getting your values right. It's often best to just go grayscale and not get confused by colour.

Anonymous Wed Sep 18 20:49:10 2013 No.1550189

>>1550178
Thanks for taking the time. I get really afraid of using strong colors cause I'm so used to pastel-like hues so I'll try to break-out of that.
That is a beautiful reference, it's so hard to find a good quality picture with more than okay lighting.
Again, thanks for taking the time and for the advice, I really appreciate it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 20:49:10 2013 No.1550190 /ic/ is dying? brb packing up

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 20:54:40 2013 No.1550192 >>1550190 Every board is dying. It's fucking happening and we can finally see mods in action.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 20:59:41 2013 No.1550194 File: 915 KB, 1366x728, concpt.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] hows this for a 17 year old? inb: ban

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 21:23:10 2013 No.1550201 >>1550192 Good riddance. I, for one, will begin posting on CGHub, now that it's full of noobs like me.

Anonymous Wed Sep 18 21:27:39 2013 No.1550204
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Id appreciate some critique/feedback/pointers in regards to this painting. I'm fairly new to digital painting. As of now, I do want the figure to be isolated, more of an illustration feel, rather than a full of painting

What are some tips to start making the buildings look more favela-y

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 21:28:40 2013 No.1550205 >>1550096 Holy shit, that's impressive upgrade.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 21:39:21 2013 No.1550211 >>1548671 I like this, it reminds me of that anime Tektonkonkrete or however you spell it. Really cool style

Anonymous Wed Sep 18 21:44:51 2013 No.1550217

>>1550204
Is the city supposed to be really small or is the bear supposed to be huge?
If it's the latter, then I'd suggest making him... heavier, as in he-can-barely-stand-the-weight-of-his-own-body heavy, also this might come in later when you start with the details but have some things dangling off him, I guess that gives it a more titan-feel to it.

If you want a more favela look then I'd say make the tallest building be the one closest to it's head and work your way down like a ladder.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 21:55:21 2013 No.1550219 File: 124 KB, 1162x1500, DSC09703.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Do these still look flat?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 21:56:51 2013 No.1550220 File: 131 KB, 1150x1500, DSC09705.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1550219 2/3

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 21:57:20 2013 No.1550221 File: 117 KB, 1125x1500, DSC09713.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1550220 3/3

Anonymous Wed Sep 18 22:00:22 2013 No.1550222
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Some days ago, a few of you helped me improve my piece's anatomy bit by bit. I'd like to know how well it's coming off right now.

I'm working hard on the arm's anatomy and placement as well as the head's irregular shape.
I'll post the original in a moment.

Anonymous Wed Sep 18 22:02:20 2013 No.1550225
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This is kind of what it'll look like once I get some momentum going. I'm deathly afraid of working on this and finishing it with poor anatomy and values. It's for a friend and I'll be seeing it often once it's finished.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 22:04:21 2013 No.1550227 >>1550225 Also, sorry about the filesize. Wasn't intentional.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 22:28:08 2013 No.1550241 >>1549990 im looking for song lyrics, but couldn't find any

Anonymous Wed Sep 18 22:30:38 2013 No.1550245

>>1550034
Hey, thanks for the advice. Yeah I try to draw every day. But only for like the past 2 months have I been spending more than 2 hours a day. I still worry that I'm just copying and not really understanding. I guess I'm trying to construct and understand why things look the way they do, but I'm not sure I'm doing it right.

Anonymous Wed Sep 18 22:31:08 2013 No.1550248

>>1550038
no, you are just too proud of what you have already draw to put any more work into it.
go back into it with some darker tones.
right now it does not look like a "finished version"
it looks like a light sketch.

hit that shit with darker tones.
and if its not "proper paper" you should have no problems treating this little drawing project of yours as a study. made to be ruined.

more tones of you are going to learn nothing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 23:24:50 2013 No.1550267 >>1550241 i don't follow you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 18 23:46:55 2013 No.1550278 File: 223 KB, 1754x873, skinnu1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1550096 this is very helpful thank you so much. i think it helped me for this one

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 19 00:10:52 2013 No.1550288 File: 237 KB, 1536x1024, 20130919.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Worked on it a bit tonight. Deciding what to do. :/

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 19 02:38:52 2013 No.1550340 File: 178 KB, 864x1296, BearIsland.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Thu Sep 19 05:51:52 2013 No.1550381

>>1550340
your thinking about colour in the wrong way, your just moving the slider closer to black and because of the way it works on a computer the darker colours are muddy. In real life colours become more saturated as they get darker so on the square colour picker window the cursor should move diagonally rather than straight down. The hue may also change as a warm light produces a cool shadow.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 24 02:24:55 2013 No.1553272 >>1550248 listen to this guy... if you can't push your work outside of your comfort zone you will never learn. it might end up looking like shit, but you'll learn so much more.

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