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Draw Thread! Anonymous Fri May 31 18:57:54 2013 No.1462681 [Reply] [Original]

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>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 19:00:54 2013 No.1462687 >>1462676 to last post

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 20:04:54 2013 No.1462752 File: 235 KB, 1200x1200, figure1 copy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1462681 Finished. Critiques? http://sexy-natural-girls.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Firm-natural-young-woman.jpg The ref I used

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 20:17:54 2013 No.1462763 >>1462752 Nice, good lines. All I really have problem with is the shading. Some parts look like stains (under right boob and stomach.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 20:19:54 2013 No.1462765 So did all of you start at an early age then? Drawing is something I've always been interested in, but never had the willpower to put practice into. I give up easily. And now I feel like it's too late to start.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 20:21:54 2013 No.1462768 >>1462765 It's definitely too late for YOU.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 20:24:54 2013 No.1462773 >>1462765 It's never too late. Stop making sorry excuses for yourself, pick up some of /ic/'s tutorials and fucking start drawing.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 20:25:24 2013 No.1462775 >>1462765 no its not too late to start, it never is, you just have to not be a pussy faggot who makes excuses about everything

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 20:29:24 2013 No.1462779 >>1462768 Your opinion has been overruled. >>1462773 >>1462775 Alright, thanks guys. No more excuses.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 20:37:25 2013 No.1462788 >>1462765 Learn it's one of the best skills to have.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 20:55:24 2013 No.1462795 >>1462779 >Your opinion has been overruled. Nah. I guarantee that you will not be able to live off of it in 4 years time.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 21:16:54 2013 No.1462807 >>1462765 It is not, you have many resources so if you find the way to study effectively, which again is not hard with all these great books and forums around, you will get good.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 21:18:54 2013 No.1462808 >>1462795 You don't even know the guy. Don't projecting your own failure and frustration onto others.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 21:20:24 2013 No.1462810 >>1462795 You don't even know the guy. Don't project your own failure and frustration onto others.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 21:25:24 2013 No.1462814 >>1462810 >I give up easily. He literally states that he gives up easily. How can you know I'm projecting? You don't even know me.

Anonymous Fri May 31 21:26:24 2013 No.1462817
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Is anyone here familiar with redjuice or nil?
I'm trying hard to replicate their style, which I really like, but I can't figure out their faces.
pic related: a study of nil's work, foreshortening and stuff

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 21:26:54 2013 No.1462816 >>1462795 I disagree. >>1462807 Thank you for the advice. >>1462810 No need to defend me. >>1462814 This is true. But I'm changing, that's a promise.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 21:27:24 2013 No.1462818 >>1462817 I'm familiar with Redjuice.

Anonymous Fri May 31 21:34:55 2013 No.1462823

>>1462818
Finally. I think I got the colouring down so far, still working on the loli type figures though.

But there's something unique about how redjuice draws faces and I can't quite understand what makes it stand out.

From what I can tell he does a form of very light shading with medium sized eyes and small noses but I can't quite put them together like he does.

Do you have some general guideline/proportions for redjuice's faces? I'd really appreciate it.

Anonymous Fri May 31 21:35:24 2013 No.1462825

>>1462816
>But I'm changing, that's a promise.

Good luck. But let me tell you that you have no idea what you're getting yourself into, honestly. This is very hard work. If you want to become a professional, it's going to take years of drawing hours upon hours every single day especially since you (as you said yourself) have very little experience drawing.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 21:36:24 2013 No.1462826 >>1462825 Thanks man. Anyways, I really don't want to derail this thread further, this'll be my last post. But your help is greatly appreciated. Have fun drawing stuff.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 21:38:54 2013 No.1462829 >>1462823 There really isn't one since it's based off realism to an extent. The only tip I can give you is to start out as an oval.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 31 21:49:24 2013 No.1462835 >>1462829 I guess it's up to me to make studies of all of Redjuice's work until I finally get it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 01:57:56 2013 No.1462960 File: 340 KB, 800x961, sp7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Last self portrait of being 19/first self portrait at 20...happy birthday to me!

Dune !!vQzb8NfaT1N Sat Jun 1 02:24:27 2013 No.1462969

http://www.yunphoto.net/en/
Dunno how I came across this site but it's a goldmine for references.

>>1462960
Happy birthday dude! Nice portrait too. If I had anything to say it's that the face could be sharpened up a little. Specifically around the nose/eyes, as my eyes hit there being (what I think is) the brightest point. Still looks awesome though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 02:37:28 2013 No.1462971 >>1462960 >>1462969 Agreed. Make sure you have sharp edges where they're needed (sharp plane turns, cast shadows, etc). Other than that it's great.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 02:44:27 2013 No.1462972 >>1462960 Are you the headphones? I don't see any other reason why they're the only thing in focus. Other than that, nice job.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 03:08:27 2013 No.1462975 >>1462960 happy bday. I like the color usage but yeah, sharp edges 'n all.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 03:11:28 2013 No.1462976 File: 138 KB, 853x1207, trzn.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How is this looking so far?

Anonymous Sat Jun 1 03:44:27 2013 No.1462984

>>1462969
>>1462971
>>1462972
>>1462975
Thanks guys! I purposely left the face really soft and hard edges elsewhere...I was reading The Practice and Science of Drawing and Harold Speed talks about how some painters leave the face soft to give it more life/mystery/depth/whathaveyou and then balance it out with very sharp edges elsewhere on non-important things. It was backwards from the usual way of doing things, so I thought I'd try it out. Also Linran kinda did that with this piece which I liked: http://cghub.com/images/view/538951/

Anyways, fun to try out, but if everyone is saying it needs to be sharper than maybe it was a failed experiment and I should stick to the regular hierarchy of edges with the focal areas being hard. Thanks for the feedback!

Anonymous Sat Jun 1 03:48:27 2013 No.1462986

>>1462976
Very cool start! It's reminiscent of Frazetta/Jeff Jones/that oldschool illustrator look. Hard to give a lot of feedback this early in the game...I like the shape play and composition and the colours are pretty nice too. Maybe try to figure out more where the leg and arm are that are next to/on the tree, as that area is a bit muddled, just clarify it a bit. You can also maybe try to pull out some more cool graphic shapes of leaves and branches near the bottom of the composition. Keep working on it, can't wait to see it finished!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 06:25:29 2013 No.1463019 >>1462960 Happy Birthday.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 06:53:29 2013 No.1463026 File: 1.17 MB, 1995x1432, patriotic nigra.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Any more tweaks to make before I add the baseball bat, legs, and clean up the linework?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 07:07:00 2013 No.1463032 >>1462752 too manly. the upper body/shoulder width is too wide and the hips aren't wide enough. also the shading just needs more work

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 07:13:29 2013 No.1463035 >>1462984 I wouldn't say an unsuccessful first try means you shouldn't try it again. Happy birthday, by the way.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 07:19:59 2013 No.1463037 File: 153 KB, 1800x1200, scape.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] first time doing a landscape. I feel like I should just drop dead instead of trying again. What should I do better next time?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 07:24:59 2013 No.1463040 File: 471 KB, 1920x1040, dog thing.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I decided to try like I did when I was like 14. That is to say, doglike things in exaggerated poses with way too many muscles showing and an annoying amount of layers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 07:25:29 2013 No.1463041 >>1463040 >I decided to try like I did To try drawing like I did*

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 07:26:59 2013 No.1463042 >>1463040 i like the musculature on the legs, well modelled.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 07:27:59 2013 No.1463044 >>1463040 I remember a very nice drawing of a sea-lion-like thing similar to this one from a draw thread long ago Are you by any chance the same person?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 07:31:29 2013 No.1463046 File: 1.50 MB, 1750x900, Fishing Falanouc.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1463044 THis? There is another thing I drew that's a leopard seal monster from ages ago if you mean that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 07:37:29 2013 No.1463050 >>1463046 I think it might be the leopard seal monster

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 07:41:59 2013 No.1463052 File: 1.41 MB, 1268x1202, leopardsealmonster6.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1463050

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 07:43:59 2013 No.1463053 >>1463052 That's the one, nice

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 07:57:59 2013 No.1463056 i tried to draw whatever objects on my table. i can't get comfortable with tablet as i am on a paper... lol

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 07:58:59 2013 No.1463057 File: 179 KB, 941x586, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1463056 sigh

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 08:09:29 2013 No.1463059 >>1463057 Focus less on obsessively capturing the contours and more time trying to get the basic forms down.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 09:21:00 2013 No.1463072 File: 1.20 MB, 1224x1575, ranga copy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] working on, going to try to make more contrast in the skin for shadows and glossier looking lips

Anonymous Sat Jun 1 10:07:30 2013 No.1463087

>>1463072
mouth is very off-center
eyes look completely flat and the iris has the shape of a potato.
The entire face looks VEEERY flat, actually. Are you drawing from imagination? If so, I think you should focus more on drawing from references. If it is from a reference, post it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 10:20:29 2013 No.1463092 >>1463037 define composition and shapes first, get references >>1463072 learn perspective, stop painting features and start painting light and lack of it

Anonymous Sat Jun 1 10:23:59 2013 No.1463093
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>>1463087
i havn't finished the eyes, they are just like a place holder at the moment so i know how the colours will look, had a refrance but lost it.

>>1463092
okey.

update as well.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 10:38:29 2013 No.1463107 File: 256 KB, 1000x744, perspective wow.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1463093 stop doing stuff to it and get the very basics first

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 10:46:59 2013 No.1463111 >>1463107 hopefully none of the board wits are around to take your 'corrects' apart

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 11:00:00 2013 No.1463116 >>1463111 hopefully, they are, or no one will learn anything also the only thing about "mine" that's correct are the perspective lines (and I know they are not at the right places for face construction)

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Anonymous Sat Jun 1 11:10:29 2013 No.1463124

>>1463116
it's the planes of the face that need to be in perspective, not the effing features. What you've done is basically nothing. You didn't help the flatness of the features because you arbitrarily threw a vanishing point in there hoping to get a butt pat. Don't try and correct things when you yourself are clueless. You people pollute the board with this shit.

Anonymous Sat Jun 1 12:00:00 2013 No.1463151
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>>1463124
you're unnecessarily critical, features do obey perspective no matter what depth they are

i'm not trying to correct it, i was trying to show that perspective is wrong. how else can i show it on a flat face with cropped head? not being rhetorical -- how would you actually show perspective is wrong?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 12:00:30 2013 No.1463150 >>1463119 legs seem too long for the torso

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Anonymous Sat Jun 1 12:53:59 2013 No.1463174

>>1463151
Unless the artist tries to do some extreme perspective shot, the vanishing points of the features of a face are very far away to a point where there is no visible change in direction. When constructing the head, you establish the angle at which it is tilted and from there on the lines of the features are parallel to it. Your version is actually more off than his.

Anonymous Sat Jun 1 13:58:00 2013 No.1463212

>>1463151
You fucked it up even more...yeah, it should follow perspective but your doesn't do it very well, and even in your example it is exaggerated by the photo, the vanishing point is usually further away than that. If you want to actually correct that head I think the best thing to do would be to put in a centerline and then use that to keep the features aligned properly. Might do a quick demo later if people need that.

Anonymous Sat Jun 1 13:59:30 2013 No.1463213

>>1463151
I didn't say features don't obey perspective, but previous anon is right; you've given the face a fisheye perspective or something in your correction. notice the difference in the distance of the vanishing points are between your 'redline' of the sketch and the one of the photo of a woman. Fixing his sketch would be as simple as drawing an ellipse around the brow ridge and through the head, and drawing an ellipse down the center of the face. You can draw a box on the front of the face to see where the eye sockets end, and construct accordingly. the box helps your really define the direction. the neck is a cylinder. That's how you draw a face in perspective. Forget about the vanishing point shit for now.

Anonymous Sat Jun 1 14:42:31 2013 No.1463240
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Drew some titties.
30 minute speedpaint.

Inb4 lazy. The idea was only working on it for 30 minutes max. I didnt like the face at the 30 minute mark so I just covered it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 14:54:30 2013 No.1463243 File: 232 KB, 1536x2048, CAM00121.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Critique this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 14:58:00 2013 No.1463245 >>1462984 I think it's just because you made the distinctions too massive. Like, the headphones are REALLY sharp, and the face is REALLY soft. I think with a little moderation it could look pretty good though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 14:59:00 2013 No.1463247 >>1463240 It's good for 30 mins, I think the legs are a bit too small tho

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 15:02:00 2013 No.1463250 File: 121 KB, 876x667, 1363737535780.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1463243

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 15:35:00 2013 No.1463271 File: 918 KB, 878x1500, cloud practice resize.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] just some cloud thumbs

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 15:35:00 2013 No.1463273 >>1462752 Why the fuck did you make her hips and thighs way thinner than her shoulders?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 15:42:30 2013 No.1463275 File: 464 KB, 1680x1050, interior1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] trying shady safadi approach to interiors

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 15:42:30 2013 No.1463276 >>1463271 that's beautiful

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 15:42:30 2013 No.1463277 >>1463273 she a curlsis mayb?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 15:43:00 2013 No.1463278 >>1463277 Wtf does that mean?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 15:46:00 2013 No.1463279 File: 256 KB, 960x540, jump.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] getting used to tablet

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 15:47:01 2013 No.1463280 >>1463278 u jst get here bro? cant into context can ye?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 15:56:00 2013 No.1463284 >>1463279 pretty cool and dynamic bro, what did you use to animate it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 15:57:01 2013 No.1463286 >>1463284 thanks, just plain ole flash

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 16:05:00 2013 No.1463291 >>1463279 try pushing the pose on the top of the wall to be a bit more extreme. Also I'd suggest tilting the head a bit on your next pass, it looks weird when it's locked in profile

Anonymous Sat Jun 1 16:26:01 2013 No.1463299
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>>1463093
>>1463151
Quicky doodling ontop, made her super generic looking haha, but shows roughly how to think of construction and how to see the centerline. Also made it greyscale to show how few values there were in the original and how that flattened it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 16:28:30 2013 No.1463300 >>1463275 Looking pretty good, though you have placed the vanishing point farther away than it is in the photo, so the perspective lines are all off and less extreme. You can also put in more ambient occlusion.

Anonymous Sat Jun 1 16:53:00 2013 No.1463311
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>>1463300
Oh shit, yeah I intentionally moved the stone corner on the bottom but didn't notice I changed the perspective this way. Oh well I hope it's still correct.

Here's some progress

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 17:03:31 2013 No.1463314 File: 61 KB, 495x700, palcon_funch.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] drawing dynamic figures

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 18:04:00 2013 No.1463340 >>1463299 Why would you even waste your time with that? He's too shit at drawing to learn much from that

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 18:08:30 2013 No.1463344 File: 268 KB, 1200x510, 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I posted a wip here a week ago, anyways, I changed the entire composition and everything.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 18:11:01 2013 No.1463345 File: 65 KB, 1050x1400, FrostedButtz.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I don't know what i'm doing, and i don't know what to do next.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 18:20:00 2013 No.1463352 >>1463344 Is that a woman that doesnt really know how to use a sword or is scared?If so i like it because she looks uncertain.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 18:23:30 2013 No.1463354 >>1463352 >Is that a woman that doesnt really know how to use a sword or is scared?If so i like it because she looks uncertain. I want her too look scared, I still need to change her facial expression a bit, also, eyes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 18:25:00 2013 No.1463355 >>1463271 These look very cool and very little like actual clouds. Do more photostudies.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 18:27:30 2013 No.1463356 >>1463340 It only took a few minutes, and it also shows the other guy who was doing all that perspective crap how to construct a head.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 18:27:30 2013 No.1463357 >>1463119 His left lower leg and right upper leg are way too long.

Anonymous Sat Jun 1 18:34:00 2013 No.1463358

So uhm, due to rl business, in the last two-three months I didn't draw half shit. well, actually this happens regularly, and lasts until I come across to someone that makes me think "ah, I'm fucking better than you, imma gonna show ya".
what should I do in order to become constant?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 18:36:31 2013 No.1463360 >>1463358 Draw.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 18:50:30 2013 No.1463369 >>1463360 Okay. I'll start tomorrow.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 18:51:30 2013 No.1463373 >>1463369 Very funny.

Anonymous Sat Jun 1 18:58:00 2013 No.1463380

>>1463373
Look, I'm serious. its 0.55 now, and tomorrow I plan to visit a drawin/comics/whatever event in my city. I know personally some of the guests, so I'm sure I'll end up drawing something.
but I need to sleep soon if
damn, you're making me sound like a liar dude.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 19:04:01 2013 No.1463388 >>1463380 Who are you trying to convince - us, or yourself?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 19:07:01 2013 No.1463392 >>1463388 Probably both...

Anonymous Sat Jun 1 19:22:02 2013 No.1463402

>>1463392
Just draw, dude.
I cannot stress how much I hate myself for procrastinating on drawing/studying (inb4 you're doing it now I'm on a break)

Now go through the books and decide which method of drawing (Loomis, Hampton, etc) you like for whatever.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 20:04:01 2013 No.1463428 File: 2.33 MB, 4000x2400, interior.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] zzz

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 20:18:01 2013 No.1463443 >>1463428 Looking good, the only issues I see are pretty minor. Might not be worth continuing much further, you probably have learned most of what you can from this study, and it looks boring as fuck to paint.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 20:21:31 2013 No.1463448 >>1463443 Meh it was ok. Definitely not going to repeat something like this soon though...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 20:22:31 2013 No.1463451 >>1463448 good job mate, it definitely works

Anonymous Sat Jun 1 20:56:31 2013 No.1463478

>>1463428
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but incase you haven't noticed it already, your perspective is slightly off. You should've placed your painting over the original to see if it was accurate. But some might say that defeats the purpose of the study. Anywho, I believe it can be somewhat saved if you just merge all your layers and use Distort to place it in it's correct perspective.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 20:57:31 2013 No.1463480 File: 1.87 MB, 2003x2400, 1rzrlc3e.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1463478 shit. forgot pic.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 21:04:01 2013 No.1463488 >>1463480 Yeah someone pointed this earlier and I was like fuck it, I'll study textures and lighting

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 21:21:31 2013 No.1463508 File: 31 KB, 250x250, 1357717403539.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1463299 This is really pathetic, anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 21:45:01 2013 No.1463529 >>1463508 How so?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 21:48:31 2013 No.1463532 File: 262 KB, 1054x1046, nikui-karasu.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How did I do?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 22:03:31 2013 No.1463538 >>1463508 you're trolling, it's totally passable. back to /b/, baybehh

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 22:15:32 2013 No.1463547 File: 152 KB, 533x850, 2013060101.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm bad at this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 22:44:01 2013 No.1463562 File: 676 KB, 1200x2923, skechdump.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] sketchdump. everything's from ref, except for the prancing "just do me!" girl in panties. check out my webzone for more art jensalarsenaas.tumblr.com

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>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 23:20:02 2013 No.1463571 >>1463279 that's really cool

Anonymous Sat Jun 1 23:28:02 2013 No.1463573
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>>1463562

I think that your drawing technique is sophisticated enough to get begin a more analytical/abstract approach to your subjects.

you understand form well enough to begin investigating it, and avoiding just drawing for a 'look'. try to not draw from photographs anymore and stick to drawing from life when you practice. you'll start seeing improvements when you do draw from photographs as it will be much easier. give yourself those kinds of restrictions. make it difficult.

if you need an 'in' sangram majumdar would be a decent person to start looking at. his earlier work is a good standard of the convention that you seem like you're aiming for.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 23:37:31 2013 No.1463575 File: 333 KB, 755x600, EricBowman.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] quick study after Eric Bowman, trying out the process of digital underpaintings and painting with a more oils kinda process

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 23:42:01 2013 No.1463576 File: 220 KB, 826x1169, 2013060103.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I dun fucked up

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 23:49:32 2013 No.1463578 File: 280 KB, 960x720, IMG_1242.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Yeah so this is my first attempt at drawing anything human, Thought Taylor was a fitting choice! What do you think?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 23:50:32 2013 No.1463580 >>1463578 On no way par from you fine artists, just thought i'd add to the pile

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 23:50:32 2013 No.1463581 >>1463578 It looks absolutely nothing like T-Swift

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 23:51:32 2013 No.1463582 >>1463578 Looks okay for a first, I guess.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 23:52:32 2013 No.1463583 >>1463581 Wouldn't say i hit the nail on the head but with my obviously limited skill thought it turned out alright!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 23:54:02 2013 No.1463586 >>1463583 Thinking you're good despite the facts is important for success. Listen to constructive criticism, but know you're trying your best, and that's what matters.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 1 23:57:01 2013 No.1463587 >>1463586 I tell ya that was nothing but my best! But i'm in no way deluded. I know a path of art is not for me, Just a fun way to spend bit of a sunday morning. I'll leave all the great works of art to all you fine talented people.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 00:01:31 2013 No.1463591 >>1463583 A turd is a turd whether it came out of a professional or an amateur.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 00:04:01 2013 No.1463592 >>1463591 If it's the best turd i can make, might as well be proud of it

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 00:12:31 2013 No.1463593 File: 139 KB, 768x640, happyturd.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1463592 Poud to be a turd.

Anonymous Sun Jun 2 00:14:31 2013 No.1463594

>>1463592
Okay. Now imagine the situation you're in right now. You've just taken an almighty shit and thought to yourself "Oh! This is a nice turd!", but instead of just leaving it that, you went to the park with that turd, held it out high in the sky and then shouted, "Hey! Everyone take a look at my turd! What do you people think of my turd?". People respond with disgust, because it's a fucking piece of shit, but then instead of thinking, "Why, yes, it is a piece of shit. Why would I think people would react in any other way?", you instead responded to the people with, "Well, I'm only capable of making turds of this quality, and I thought people would like to see it." Where the fuck is the logic in that?

Anonymous Sun Jun 2 00:32:32 2013 No.1463604
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Please critique this.
It's some crazy esotheric stuff thrown together. Black sun, UFOs, energy-crystalls. Does it work out? The girl is supposed to be half floating, half penetrating the crystal.

Anonymous Sun Jun 2 01:05:31 2013 No.1463635

>>1463594
What a metaphor and a lovely one at that. But keep in mind that it is not an actual turd and is a drawing. And is this not a draw thread? So retaliative to your story, i placed a turd in a turd critiquing thread. Opinions to side (no matter how blunt) this is completely logical.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 01:27:01 2013 No.1463649 File: 163 KB, 1220x968, paintstudy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] a) Are her features ok? b) Should I do Naoto(above) or Marie(below)? I was thinking about doing the former but now she doesn't look trap-ish enough..

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 01:31:01 2013 No.1463652 >>1463649 Her mouth is too far to the left. Not bad, though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 01:35:01 2013 No.1463661 >>1463594 Post of the week.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 01:49:01 2013 No.1463679 File: 164 KB, 1192x956, paintstudy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1463652 Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 01:55:31 2013 No.1463685 File: 112 KB, 1015x771, Untitled3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So I was just doodling randomly in MS paint and just kept going for whatever reason All done with my mouse, no tablet I know it's shit but I figure I dump it in a draw thread

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 02:05:01 2013 No.1463692 File: 822 KB, 1149x1947, vaporeon.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 02:36:31 2013 No.1463734 File: 281 KB, 1042x955, Mangosteen.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Mangosteen >Water color on watercolor paper What do you think /ic/?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 02:46:02 2013 No.1463742 >>1463734 weird i have an orange mangosteen here, are there purple ones?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 02:50:32 2013 No.1463745 File: 96 KB, 500x334, mangosteen purple.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1463742 There are purple mangosteen in Asia

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 02:52:31 2013 No.1463746 >>1463745 neato, you'd think with me in australia the mangosteens are from asia, maybe this one that i have (which i found on the train) is a weird one or something.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 02:55:01 2013 No.1463749 File: 120 KB, 384x482, Fruta_do_Bacupari.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1463746 >Orange mangosteen Did you mean this?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 03:01:01 2013 No.1463754 >>1463749 no it's exactly the same only orange, same leaf things and all, i think it's maybe to do with not being ripe?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 03:43:32 2013 No.1463774 File: 276 KB, 1190x846, asdfg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm a bit stuck here. Since I tried to work on the lower face region the subject looks part-capybara or something.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 03:49:02 2013 No.1463777 >>1463314 looks good

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 05:15:31 2013 No.1463791 File: 55 KB, 800x1211, self (2).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] quick self portrait

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 05:18:31 2013 No.1463793 >>1463314 Ground plane maybe? Legs look just a bit weird.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 05:37:01 2013 No.1463815 >>1463774 from a quick glance his face looks way too elongated, more specifically his nose region

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 06:14:31 2013 No.1463834 >>1463774 Proportions and placement, dude. Eyes, nose, mouth, chin, ear...

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 06:17:01 2013 No.1463836 >>1463791 looks like you have a well balanced ego, if you don't get into art school leave more poland alone

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 07:00:01 2013 No.1463852 >>1463567 >dog thing2.png you're not fooling anyone that's vaporion

Rindoukan Sun Jun 2 07:23:31 2013 No.1463863
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I'd really appreciate the input.If there's something you spot that is off-putting.Also curious as to when you reach such a stage ,how do you procede to detail it more ?Texture brushes ? layer modes ?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 07:44:31 2013 No.1463871 >>1463863 rabbit looks too flat background window is way too textured/detailed, throws the thing off rose doesn't read as rose at first, i thought it's like bunny guts at first

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 08:20:31 2013 No.1463880 >>1463836 Dude fuck off. I just farted twice while reading that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 08:54:31 2013 No.1463885 File: 163 KB, 730x565, soldierstudyg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1463119 >>1463150 >>1463357 thanks. is this better?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 09:07:31 2013 No.1463889 >>1463885 it's still not good. Right knee is obviously lower than the left knee.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 09:26:01 2013 No.1463896 >>1463774 Hair isn't cuhrayzee enough.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 09:26:31 2013 No.1463895 File: 689 KB, 2480x1748, angels_calling.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1463885 He is too skinny for a soldier. Those are athletic men in a pretty loose uniform. Make him wider. Unless you are drawing a woman.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 10:11:01 2013 No.1463905 >>1463578 save this drawing read sticky redo drawing

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 10:33:01 2013 No.1463917 File: 118 KB, 1300x800, sugar glider.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] WIP. It's supposed to be a sugar glider. What do?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 12:20:33 2013 No.1463972 File: 587 KB, 3000x4000, babe.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just a plain old study. I'll post the process! Shameless: http://spazmaticdesign.blogspot.no/<wbr>

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 12:37:01 2013 No.1463979 File: 239 KB, 497x747, asarorobi.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] there you go. an asaro head

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 12:53:31 2013 No.1463989 >>1463885 Still too long.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 13:08:01 2013 No.1463998 File: 145 KB, 1248x885, összehasonlit.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Another day, another round brush skull value study.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 13:13:02 2013 No.1464000 >>1463998 distorted

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 13:40:31 2013 No.1464023 >>1463972 Her proportions are way off bro.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 13:46:01 2013 No.1464030 >>1463979 how to get started with an asaro i keep getting lost in the little plane shapes

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 13:49:31 2013 No.1464031 >>1464030 daarken made a little tutorial. @enliighten

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 13:50:01 2013 No.1464033 >>1464031 Thanks!

Anonymous Sun Jun 2 13:54:31 2013 No.1464039
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>>1463998
I threw a few lines on top so you can see where things are off. Red are just horizontal lines shot out from some notable points on the skull ref, and your skull should have those same points line up there. As you can see there is a discrepancy, you have painted many things too low.

Blow box around skull shows height vs width, you have made your skull shorter and wider than the ref.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 14:01:01 2013 No.1464043 >>1464039 thanks, i should do more measurements next time

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 14:17:32 2013 No.1464057 File: 950 KB, 1600x1200, demon.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Practicing some lighting, trying to get a realistic result.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 14:21:01 2013 No.1464060 >>1464033 just draw the shapes you see and not that what you think you see ( eye, mouth etc). always compare the lines and planes to see if you're right in proportion

Anonymous Sun Jun 2 16:45:31 2013 No.1464145

>>1463604
>Please critique this.
>It's some crazy esotheric stuff thrown together.

Looks like too much crazy esoteric stuff thrown together. No it doesn't work, why did you think it would? You have random elements haphazardly thrown onto the canvas, and your depictions are unbelievably symbolic. The "girl" has a boy's body as well.

You should be making 20 thumbnails before committing to an illustration. And even then you should be finding/making suitable refs to assist you. Ultimately though, you just need a lot more work practicing the fundamentals. Read the sticky if you haven't already, and go out and read and follow along the books contained.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 16:48:31 2013 No.1464146 File: 365 KB, 1000x1450, 3463666633.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Sun Jun 2 16:49:31 2013 No.1464149

>>1463774
I don't know why you bothered to draw the skull when it isn't even correct. As others have said, your proportions are all over the place.

Try to describe forms using planes and values, not scratchy black lines. The parts that are drawn look like a symbolic mess.

I do like the brush strokes and overall values in the hair though, if that means anything. But to proceed forward, find a ref to allow you to correct the proportions.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 17:18:01 2013 No.1464163 File: 181 KB, 1258x972, Capture2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1463679 I´m going to do Marie. Hopefully I don´t mess up the painting since beforehand I only painted directly without drawing something first.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 17:21:02 2013 No.1464169 >>1464146 is that scarlett?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 17:21:32 2013 No.1464168 File: 416 KB, 700x569, blah.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] experimenting with color..

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 17:26:01 2013 No.1464171 File: 333 KB, 1000x1450, bitch.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1464146 fixed it for you

Anonymous Sun Jun 2 17:32:01 2013 No.1464176
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Sat and sketched fishes at an aquarium today they have this really cool thing where you can walk underneath the water and look at sharks, was fun. Too bad that there were so many people around

>>1464168
that's really pleasant to look at, I'd advice against a red nose however.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 17:33:31 2013 No.1464177 File: 418 KB, 700x569, 4chan_colors.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1464168 Oh, I like it... but the colors are a little to intense on my eyes. You can safely de-saturate them a tiny tad without loosing the colorful effect.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 17:39:32 2013 No.1464183 File: 384 KB, 1000x1450, 2525252352.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1464169 No a random picture I found >>1464171 haha great!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 17:55:32 2013 No.1464196 File: 339 KB, 850x1917, scans.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1464176 some shark / fish gesture drawings for good measure

Anonymous Sun Jun 2 19:15:31 2013 No.1464243
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Attempted fix, but I think I'm still making some sort of mistake (mostly about the jaw, chin, lip).

>>1464149
>why you bothered to draw the skull
(The skull was drawn first)
>Try to describe forms using planes and values, not scratchy black lines. The parts that are drawn look like a symbolic mess.
Sounds good, I'll do that next time.

>>1463896
He isn't doing a jam session on 80 demon while eating pizza after his uncle handed a bat summoning electric guitar to him as a birthday present. This would capture such traits of the character much better than adjusted hair in a portrait.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 19:19:02 2013 No.1464246 File: 135 KB, 500x637, Image (11).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Tried some random perspective

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 19:44:32 2013 No.1464259 File: 305 KB, 835x1080, anotherstudy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 19:53:32 2013 No.1464264 File: 165 KB, 714x627, Untitled.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Not a man or a woman...

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 19:56:02 2013 No.1464267 >>1464259 Very boring technique, brush strokes, colors and reference.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 20:03:32 2013 No.1464269 >>1464259 I was gonna say it isn't interesting to compete with a camera but seeing as its a study, its really well done. It probably goes without saying but when taking on personal projects, be creative with it. Nice job

Anonymous Sun Jun 2 20:05:02 2013 No.1464270
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I'm more familiar with figure drawing. I've been drawing houses recently. There's the cam girl I've masturbated to on chaturbate a few times, but it's more than just her body.

Anyway, this is kind of creepy, but I wanted to see if I could visualize her home so I drew what I could and then took some creative liberty.

It's The Sims without the computer program.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 20:06:02 2013 No.1464272 File: 312 KB, 835x1080, anotherstudy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1464259 fixed the ear >>1464267 it's a study, i'm not really going for anything artsy >>1464269 ^this

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 20:08:32 2013 No.1464273 >>1464270 Also, I don't have a scanner, so I had to use a webcam to get it on the computer.

>>	Transient Sun Jun 2 20:13:03 2013 No.1464280 >>1464243 I think what he meant about the skull was that it was useless for you to draw the skull for a guideline if the skull wasn't correct.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 20:15:02 2013 No.1464282 quick question? Should i follow loomis or vilpuu when it comes to proportion? Loomis is a bit old and confusing, but vilpuu doesn't say how wide a person's body is supposed to be does he?

Anonymous Sun Jun 2 20:18:32 2013 No.1464284
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this is my first time trying to draw a 'pin-up girl' piece. before I start doing anything really intensive, can I get some feedback? I'm not sure about the anatomy right now, the legs and back look weird to me. :/

Anonymous Sun Jun 2 20:22:33 2013 No.1464288

>>1464272
It's not about being artsy or not. This is simply ugly, overly smooth and boring, even for a study. Studies don't really consist about reproduction, studies are translating reality to painting. Knowing what is interesting to hide or add in terms of color and features. Your work looks like an uncanny valley 3D model. Also, quit that extremly smooth brush comfort zone and try something new.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 20:26:32 2013 No.1464290 >>1464284 She looks good to me. If there's a way you could smooth the contour she might look better. Also, her left eye is missing though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 20:27:32 2013 No.1464291 >>1464272 awesome. looks rather plastic though -- might be saturation/values... also include harder edges. everything looks kinda blurry (might be your choice of brush) next time include the original image so that people can give you better advice!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 20:30:32 2013 No.1464293 >>1464272 I'd add some contour lines to the hair in the back. It looks too smooth and wispy to be real.

Anonymous Sun Jun 2 20:44:32 2013 No.1464298

>>1464288
This guy has it right. Your lack of visible brush strokes make this look more like an awkwardly lit 3-D model than a painting. You obviously know what you're doing in terms of anatomy and transferring visual information to a 2-D surface, so what you should be working on is making your stuff look /more/ than just simple representation.

Anonymous Sun Jun 2 20:47:32 2013 No.1464299
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Okay /ic/, first time posting in a draw thread
before you tell me about Loomis and stuff I
want to tell you that I draw figure drawing
(pixelovely) daily and am somewhat happy with
my studies... But I've been having troubles with
drawing from imagination, I want some help
with this drawing. It's a couple of bunny-girls
(well, one's a boy actually) and I've been stuck
in the rough sketch stage for about an hour
now. Thanks in advance

Anonymous Sun Jun 2 20:51:02 2013 No.1464301

oh you guys, it's personal choice how you want to approach a study. i admit it does look a bit plastic, because real skin has textures. also, it's not like nailed every detail (i didn't). but i think that hiding faults with messy/textured brushwork would be even worse. but like i said, it's a personal choice, so i guess some people like to 'spice up' their studies.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 21:03:32 2013 No.1464307 File: 979 KB, 2000x1046, 478421d5e7b31c22f4374bb25c9cbdbf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1462681 Kill me please

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 21:13:02 2013 No.1464314 >>1464307 I always thought she was cute except for that fucking tattoo.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 21:14:33 2013 No.1464315 >>1464307 Use another reference, too soft and artificial lightning, that won't help you much.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 21:22:33 2013 No.1464320 >>1464315 Reference police! Woop woop woop! >implying soft artificial lighting isn't a good thing to learn It's fine as long as that isn't all that you ever do.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 21:25:02 2013 No.1464326 >>1464307 Her skintones in the ref look all pasty and dead, seems like something that one guy that draws creepy faces all the time would use.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 21:27:32 2013 No.1464328 >>1464326 It does. Look at her shoulder compared to her face. Bad shoop on the face.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 21:37:02 2013 No.1464338 File: 1.16 MB, 1600x1200, demon.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1464057 Finished it. Would like some critiques on the painting.

>>	Transient Sun Jun 2 21:45:02 2013 No.1464347 >>1464338 hE LOOKS FUCKING ADORABLE. i like it but i don't know shit about lighting so i can't be helpful to you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 21:53:32 2013 No.1464356 >>1464315 >>1464326 Damn, if I knew I wouldn't have wasted my time. Oh well. Back to work.

Anonymous Sun Jun 2 22:27:32 2013 No.1464376
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>>1464307
At least use a reference that wasn't poorly shopped. Comparing the grain in the hair and background to the smooth-as-fuck face should have sent off a warning bell (not to mention green skin, super rosey cheeks, luminescent irises, etc.)

Anonymous Sun Jun 2 22:30:32 2013 No.1464378

>>1464307
>>1464376
Secondly, the figure is backlit - you should reflect that in your painting. Her face is lit by ambient, indirect light sources. It should not have bright values.

Establish your core shadow, and keep the lit half distinct from the shadow half. As this is backlit, the shadow half will take up the vast majority of the figure.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 22:33:32 2013 No.1464382 >>1464284 Her left shin is broken. Her ass should also flatten where it meets the floor plane - the fact that there's no shape distortion even with her entire body weight on it makes her seem weightless and unconvincing.

Anonymous Sun Jun 2 22:36:02 2013 No.1464383

>>1464280
Yup
>>1464243
Don't bother moving parts around in photoshop like that. Even if you stumble across something that looks more correct, it won't teach you how to draw it correctly in the first place. Redraw the head entirely.

Again, the mistakes you're making are easily fixed by finding a similar reference and learning from those proportions. It doesn't have to be similar lighting, or even a similar looking face - just the correct orientation and station point. You can change it to look like how you envision the character.

Anonymous Sun Jun 2 23:32:03 2013 No.1464405
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An attempt at doing a generic face. I've had lots of trouble doing faces in the past and I think this is the furthest I've gotten. I think the expression looks kind of stupid.

Am I on the right track?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 23:45:32 2013 No.1464410 File: 556 KB, 1500x1350, shitsketch.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] speed paint from imagination for the lols, 50 mins I think I accidentally made an elf Chloe moretz

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 23:47:02 2013 No.1464413 >>1464405 no construction lack of anatomy symbol drawing 0/10 would not bang

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 23:47:33 2013 No.1464412 >>1464405 Eyes are too small/round, and you don't need to use a hair texture for the eyelashes

Anonymous Sun Jun 2 23:49:32 2013 No.1464416
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Little still life I set up today...weather was changing a lot, went from blindingly sunny to pouring rain and everything in between, crazy variability, so lighting was a bit tricky to get.

Anonymous Sun Jun 2 23:50:32 2013 No.1464417

>>1464405
She's a rather ugly woman, but it's not a terrible attempt. Your biggest issue is the eyes. They're way too small, they don't have much depth, and their shape is unrealistic and odd. They look pasted on.

The coloring is rather boring as well. It's too shiny and artificial-looking. The nose is the best part of the image, in my opinion. You might want to refine the tip, though.

Keep on at it. Post the finished image when you're done. Try to fix those eyes!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 23:54:02 2013 No.1464419 >>1464410 Your coloring is really ugly and muddy. It looks like you just used a darker shade of the original skin tone instead of using more attractive, dynamic colors.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 23:55:02 2013 No.1464420 >>1464307 Now that's a polished turd

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 23:56:02 2013 No.1464422 >>1464417 >>1464413 >>1464412 Thanks! I'm a little foggy about fixing the skin coloring but I'm going to go all out.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 23:56:02 2013 No.1464423 >>1464338 Not bad lighting, but this is a really polished turd though, learn perspective and anatomy

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 23:57:02 2013 No.1464424 File: 1.87 MB, 900x4500, 1324433344400.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1464410 Don't use black Don't blend with black Black is icky

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 2 23:59:33 2013 No.1464426 >>1464422 May I suggest making the image black and white instead of in color? I checked out the image in black and white, and it looks better.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 00:01:02 2013 No.1464427 >>1464419 yea I know :( I should practice adding different colours, instead I just put up the saturation a bit every time I used colour picker but it still looks like shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 00:02:32 2013 No.1464428 >>1464424 All the black is from the sketch, I have trouble getting rid of it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 00:03:02 2013 No.1464430 >>1464429 What do you mean?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 00:03:33 2013 No.1464429 >>1464428 That's because you're petting your lines. Stop that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 00:04:02 2013 No.1464431 >>1463573 thanks. i attend art school, in which I draw heaps from life- figures and still lifes. im on my summer break now though, so photos will have to do.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 00:06:02 2013 No.1464432 >>1464426 Wow, it does look much better. I'm going to try work with it as much as I can in color though. I'm trying to get skin tones right.

Anonymous Mon Jun 3 00:08:02 2013 No.1464434

>>1464432
You're still a beginner, so I think that you'd be better off focusing on values instead of working on color right now. If you want to do color studies, try drawing an apple or flower from life instead of more complicated things like skin tones.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 00:08:32 2013 No.1464433 >>1464424 Thank you for posting this!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 00:11:02 2013 No.1464436 >>1464434 Thank you! That's where I'm shifting my focus now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 00:23:03 2013 No.1464443 >>1464429 Oh, you mean like I keep going over my lines? I don't, and how would that effect the colouring?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 01:15:03 2013 No.1464457 How do you fix shiny looking skin?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 01:29:02 2013 No.1464465 File: 69 KB, 800x1000, grendel.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Tried a figure from the head, didn't go to well, but would like to know what went wrong.

Anonymous Mon Jun 3 01:35:02 2013 No.1464466
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Tried to incorporate studies in this one. I know it's a boring pose, but I was trying to build a concept, and I ended up drawing something else.

Didn't bother shading because I know i would mess it up.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 01:41:33 2013 No.1464467 >>1464466 She hulk is sort of a shitty design Why isn't she fuckhuge like Bruce when he hulks out? My /co/ power-level isn't that high so if I'm missing something feel free

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 02:11:32 2013 No.1464472 File: 108 KB, 1292x2163, hitler-chan.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Mon Jun 3 02:40:03 2013 No.1464479

>>1464467
>Why isn't she fuckhuge like Bruce when he hulks out?
Because that's not sexy. She-hulk, like Starfire, is very much known for her sexual prowess so it just wouldn't be acceptable for her to be too bulky.
I don't know what the plot reason they used to explain it away, but that's why in the real world

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 02:50:03 2013 No.1464483 >>1464479 I'm not that huge of a feminist but that's fucking boring man. But whatever >80's and 90's Comics

Anonymous Mon Jun 3 02:52:33 2013 No.1464484
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I'm trying to learn to paint environments, but I'm having trouble with shadows and atmospheric perspective. I'm trying to show a real sense of depth, but I'm not sure where I should go from here.
I'd very much appreciate feedback.

Anonymous Mon Jun 3 03:10:34 2013 No.1464493
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Sketched this out in about an hour, for practice after my resolution of starting with the fundamentals and completely re-training myself to draw. Really trying to study forms, shapes, shadows n things and basically just re-teaching myself everything from the start.

Pretty happy with how it turned out, for especially for not having drawn anything like it in a year or two. I may just ditch it or come back to it in the morning and throw a new layer on it and start fresh. Dunno yet, but I'm going to bed for now.

Anonymous Mon Jun 3 03:46:34 2013 No.1464512

>>1464484

do master studies do master studies do master studies do master studies do master studies do master studies do master studies do master studies do master studies do master studies do master studies do master studies do master studies do master studies do master studies

way too early for creative work for you anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 03:51:03 2013 No.1464515 >>1464512 Can you give me any names? Would painting from photographs do the same thing?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 03:52:35 2013 No.1464516 File: 490 KB, 1341x909, shipyo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] orange blue contrast ftw

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 04:12:33 2013 No.1464520 I get by what you mean by anatomy, but where did I get perspective wrong?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 04:13:34 2013 No.1464521 >>1464423 I get by what you mean by anatomy, but where did I get perspective wrong?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 04:34:33 2013 No.1464526 File: 1.79 MB, 2592x1936, securedownload.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Finished this last night.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 04:36:33 2013 No.1464527 File: 208 KB, 2500x1500, Joker_2.5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 420noscope SMOKE SMOKE

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 04:43:03 2013 No.1464529 >>1464526 lovely as always, do you ever play with colour?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 04:48:34 2013 No.1464531 >>1464529 Thank you. I'm wanting to go back into some of theses with maybe gold and silver pens. Once I've got a nice pile of them inked out I'd also be tempted to attack em with gouache.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 05:06:03 2013 No.1464535 >>1464531 that would be amazing!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 05:32:33 2013 No.1464544 File: 2.21 MB, 3264x2448, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Charles Chaplin I've never shaded by smudging before so this was a first

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 07:07:34 2013 No.1464573 File: 244 KB, 1339x962, borzoi.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I wanna draw a borzoi freehand, so doing reference sketches from photos first.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 08:03:33 2013 No.1464592 >>1464573 i dont art, but wouldn't you put shapes first, then define them with lights and shadows, instead of doing what seems to be shape linework

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 08:05:03 2013 No.1464596 What kind of stuff can I post here? Is fanart of a crappy show ok?

Anonymous Mon Jun 3 08:06:04 2013 No.1464597

>>1464592

Usually I would do a sketch of circles and shapes and lines but lately I've just been doing the general shapes and silhouette at the same time, much easier to get a pose out of the way like this.
Instead of making sure all the shapes work I can just get the pose out of my mind before fixing it.

>>1464596

Post anything you're working on but expect critique.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 08:08:34 2013 No.1464599 >>1464597 Thanks! I like critique a lot.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 08:10:04 2013 No.1464601 File: 9 KB, 194x186, 1328703503778.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1464599 There's also assholes here, so expect that too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 08:11:04 2013 No.1464603 >>1464601 We are on 4chan after all. My body is ready.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 08:15:04 2013 No.1464605 File: 151 KB, 654x643, Untitled1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 08:50:03 2013 No.1464620 >>1464605 The one on the left has midget legs, one on the right has a too-long torso. And probably also midget legs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 08:55:04 2013 No.1464622 >>1464443 Not the guy you're replying to, but I think by "petting" he means you're being too precious with your linework. Don't be afraid to go over it. Also, I'd recommend using a colour other than black to sketch.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 09:00:03 2013 No.1464624 >>1464484 I am no environmental artist but if I ever have to do a distant object they are usually less saturated and lighter than the foreground. Do the studies like some anon already said though, it can't hurt ya for sure

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 09:14:03 2013 No.1464628 >>1464420 Posts like this are why /ic/ has turned to shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 09:29:33 2013 No.1464635 >>1464620 Well then, I guess if he wanted to make a drawing according to your ideal proportion he failed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 09:38:33 2013 No.1464641 >>1464424 This is amazing. Thank you anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 09:39:33 2013 No.1464643 >>1464531 Hmm I think that will make it like a framed piece of wallpaper. But go for it, experiment. I'd like to see some solid colors.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 09:55:34 2013 No.1464649 >>1464465 Pose is retarded, his left arm is way too long, l2anatomy

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 09:56:04 2013 No.1464652 >>1464628 Your post wasn't any less useless as that one

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 09:58:33 2013 No.1464653 >>1464338 Everything is shiny. Why is everything shiny? Is the demon covered in baby oil?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 10:56:34 2013 No.1464673 File: 352 KB, 1532x922, Untitled-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] thoughts and critique much appreciated!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 10:58:04 2013 No.1464674 File: 138 KB, 640x594, Untitled2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1464620 how is it now

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 11:13:03 2013 No.1464683 >>1464673 of what exactly? no one here critiques 5 min sketches.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 11:19:37 2013 No.1464687 >>1464653 >2099 >year of our lord >not knowing that all demons bathe with baby oil to slip through the grasp of god

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 11:44:35 2013 No.1464694 >>1464653 The guy who drew it makes everything shiny.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 11:50:35 2013 No.1464696 >>1464673 Looks cute.

Anonymous Mon Jun 3 12:13:04 2013 No.1464708

>>1464288
>>1464298
I find my self not completely agreeing... A more "polished" look can work well for a lot of things, there's not just one way to paint digitally "right".

However, I agree on some points. The colors just seem very dull and I miss some more hard edges here and there. I think part of the problem is the background color (okay, I think it's a big problem), the figure kind of drowns in it... Try a more contrasting color to avoid this kind of blandness. Also, try to incorporate more colors in your shades, here they seem to exist mostly of brown and green, it just doesn't give the skin a "healthy glow", so to speak. She also needs some spots of highlight in her face (like on her lips, nose, ear) even if it's not present in the ref, you should consider putting some in there!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 12:16:34 2013 No.1464710 >>1464416 Looking good!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 12:25:34 2013 No.1464716 >>1464635 Unless you actually ARE a dwarf, the groin should be about in the middle height-wise on the body! It's pretty basic proportion knowledge and if it's not obeyed, figures really do end up looking like they have a medical condition!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 12:32:35 2013 No.1464719 >>1464716 thank I'll keep that in mind next time

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 12:36:07 2013 No.1464723 >>1464722 Im 17 btw

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 12:36:34 2013 No.1464722 File: 1.80 MB, 2592x1936, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Oil Painting for album cover Friend of a friend's thrash death metal band Called enygma Not really going to ask much for it, around 50 bucks Unfinished of course

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 12:40:34 2013 No.1464725 File: 56 KB, 640x594, 4chan_proportions.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1464674 Legs still look awkwardly short.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 12:41:04 2013 No.1464726 >>1464725 Whoops, this was meant for >>1464605 (the updated pic he/she posted was deleted, it seems)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 12:42:04 2013 No.1464727 >>1464723 You're on a red board, use your brain!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 12:53:34 2013 No.1464730 >>1464727 Doesn't matter what color, 18 for all boards

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 13:14:04 2013 No.1464740 >>1464673 The eyes are rotated. Looksoddman

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 13:21:34 2013 No.1464744 >>1464722 I can't tell what's happening from the thumbnail, and that's the problem. Seeing as how most album covers are viewed as thumbnails nowadays you should have taken this into consideration.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 14:24:05 2013 No.1464765 /ic/ how do I start life drawing? I have a sketch book and a .5 mm mechanical pencil as well as a standard one. Where should I start? Should I have certain materials?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 14:29:05 2013 No.1464769 >>1464765 When I say life drawing, I mean things like still life as well as figure drawing

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 14:32:05 2013 No.1464772 File: 1.88 MB, 2592x1936, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1464744 The oart of the painting shown will be smaller of course , more or less this

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 14:35:35 2013 No.1464775 >>1464772 Part*

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 14:52:35 2013 No.1464787 >>1463692 I'm late, but thanks for posting the finished work, was hoping to see it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 15:15:06 2013 No.1464800 File: 593 KB, 1713x933, firchen.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] wip. any advices?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 15:28:07 2013 No.1464807 File: 1.62 MB, 3264x2448, DSC_0387.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1464526 Lookig nice! Even though it's pretty far from being similar, it somehow it reminded me of what I drew yesterday. What do you think?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 15:49:36 2013 No.1464826 >>1464423 hurr durr anatomy anatomy fundamentals fundamentals it's not possible to produce pieces only after learning EVERYTHING TO PERFECTION

Anonymous Mon Jun 3 16:10:06 2013 No.1464848
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>>1464807
I really like it, especially the way you've rotated it. I've wanted to put eyes in one of mine for a while but have stayed away from it. I think you should spend a little longer on the line work, they look great but rushed

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 16:26:44 2013 No.1464852 File: 297 KB, 1000x1450, weeeeee2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 16:27:57 2013 No.1464853 >>1464526 >>1464807 >>1464848 what are these exactly? is there some kind of underlying principle or math or are they based on anything? it looks like random doodles..

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 16:48:14 2013 No.1464860 File: 164 KB, 800x600, journey.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 16:55:45 2013 No.1464862 File: 480 KB, 1040x958, mybrotha!.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1464527

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 17:06:15 2013 No.1464870 File: 40 KB, 385x900, d.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Muh skyrim character.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 17:09:44 2013 No.1464873 >>1464870 Not bad, but why are her legs so far apart?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 17:10:14 2013 No.1464875 >>1464873 Because she's a whore.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 17:21:44 2013 No.1464884 >>1464875 Misogynistic prick

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 17:23:44 2013 No.1464886 I think this thread is auto saging, btw.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 17:25:14 2013 No.1464889 >>1464884 Who cares, lol.

Anonymous Mon Jun 3 17:32:46 2013 No.1464899

>>1464848
Thank you. You'r correct about them being very rushed. I was on a deadline and was stressing out. In retrospect, the lines look awful, haha. I think you should try adding eyes to your art, would look amazing. I'm really attatched to eyes and can't really keep my self from drawing them in almost everything I do!

>>1464853
I suppose it's all about taking a liking to symetry in a way? Certainly not random.

Anonymous Mon Jun 3 17:45:44 2013 No.1464905

>>1462765
And again

http://www.ted.com/talks/larry_smith_why_you_will_fail_to_have_a_great_career.html

I'll post this everytime someone defend himself behind stupid excuses

Also
> It's easier to learn when you're old
> Because you're old you'll be able to manage effectively what you're learning

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 17:54:14 2013 No.1464908 >>1464907 New Thread

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 18:11:45 2013 No.1464922 File: 1.70 MB, 2592x1936, securedownload-3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1464853 They're very mathematical and based on architectural forms.I spent a lot of time in north Africa. I can see it a lot in my work

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 3 19:40:02 2013 No.1465008 >>1464716 It's a look. I think it went better that way with the cartoony head. But apparently that wasn't his intention, since he tried to correct it, so nvm.

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