Animu/Mango Thread

[Anonymous No.1439576]

Previous Thread >>1438123

-Offer drawings for critique
-Muh styles
-General discussion
-Excuses
-Redlines

This is not a Pokemon Thread

[Anonymous No.1439582]

>caner thwead
>itt fagheads
>containment fiewld activated!!!

[Anonymous No.1439586]

>>1439582

[Anonymous No.1439591]

Went back to my original sketch to try again.

[Anonymous No.1439592]

I hav som work i med, can u rate pls?
will dump 1/?

[Anonymous No.1439594]

>>1439592
2/?

[Anonymous No.1439595]

>>1439594

[Anonymous No.1439596]

>>1439595

[Anonymous No.1439597]

>>1439596

[Anonymous No.1439598]

>>1439595
12deep24me

[Anonymous No.1439599]

>>1439597
logo i mead

[Anonymous No.1439600]

>>1439599
her is som artwrk i mead once

[Anonymous No.1439604]

>>1439592
>>1439594
>>1439595
>>1439596
>>1439597
>>1439599
>>1439600
>mama i'm so edgeh
>papa look at wut i made

[Anonymous No.1439606]

>>1439604
do u like myu drawnigns?

[Anonymous No.1439608]

>>1439606
what drawings?

[Anonymous No.1439609]

>>1439606
no they r bad sry :/

[Anonymous No.1439610]

>>1439592
>>1439594
>>1439595
>>1439596
>>1439597
>>1439599
>>1439600
>>1439606

>papa look at wut i made
>do u like myu drawnigns?

Into the psychiatric ward you go!

[Anonymous No.1439611]

this is /b/ level shit.
the fact that you exposed my eyes to this juvenile normalfag filth on /ic/ annoys me more than the animu thread itself.

[Anonymous No.1439613]

>>1439610

Somehow it feels this meme has been around since 2005.

[Anonymous No.1439621]

I've trying to make a h manga and this is my first color page. what you think \ic\?

[Anonymous No.1439622]

>>1439621
Looks like a green haired yoko fucking some dragonball ZZ alien.

[Anonymous No.1439623]

>>1439621
Purple dicks.

The change of position doesn't read well. Panels 2-3 could be better used to show them changing position, I think.

[Anonymous No.1439624]

>>1439621
Didn't fap, you failed. Stop drawing H.

[Anonymous No.1439648]

>>1439621
Line art is well intended but looks odd at some points (the hands for example) and composition wise, is pretty static and boring to look at, the coloring isn't that good either... you also made a tangent with that speech balloon at the end and you want to avoid tangents, they are distracting and flatten the illustration. It's a boring page layout with unimaginative coloring and odd looking hands... Think about that.

[Anonymous No.1439661]

>>1439621
The genitalia are very badly made and full of symbols.

They are the main focus of the drawings yet they have so little detail and they are so flat and symbolic.

Don't be shy to gather a folder full of dicks and pussys and study them in great detail.

[Anonymous No.1439666]

I know this is from 2 threads back, but any comments here? >>1437795

[Amomynous No.1439668]

>>1439610
I actually like them.

[Anonymous No.1439712]

>>1439666

[Anonymous No.1439795]

>>1439712
Admittedly I honestly got a little lost when I first did the sketch for the bottom, I just couldn't figure out how to fix it. I forgot about the boob gravity so noted. I'll definitely be making the lines smooth, I just wanted to have something to show at the time.

Although are the feet ok? That was hard to nail down too and I'm not actually sure if it still needs fixing other than actually redrawing it clean.

Anyways thanks for the notes, I'll probably start it over again soon with the corrections.

[Anonymous No.1439802]

>>1439795
the feet look great, lots of individual elements do. it's how you tied them together that is a little off.

[Anonymous No.1439807]

Going to try to draw something for that Gargantia Pixiv contest posted not too long ago. Any helpful tidbits you think I could use here? Anything useful at all would be appreciated.

[Anonymous No.1439811]

>>1439807
meemeebrou, where are all your catslavegirls

[Anonymous No.1439813]

>>1439811
Now now, anon. This is no place for that.

[Anonymous No.1439817]

>>1439807
She could use hands brah

[Anonymous No.1439824]

>>1439621
is the purple guy wearing a condom?

[Anonymous No.1439831]

>>1439795

The feet are generally fine, which is why I didn't feel the need to draw them. But if you really want to push it from being perfectly suitable into the realm of, say, object of worship for foot fetishists, then you can do a couple more things.

One is to make the foot more elegant. Right now, they seem quite square, evoking the soles of a steady-footed mine worker rather than that of someone who pampers her feet. Push it slightly more towards the pointier shape of the hottest Italian high heels by making the big toe and second toe equal length, or even having the second toe be slightly longer by a nail. The big toe itself can take on a more wedge shape.

The second, and more important change, is that you can make the foot more expressive. They really are quite like hands. You may pose one foot over the other as a sign of apprehension. You may have the toes of one foot outstretched, with the other is gripped, to break the twinning of the feet. You may have the foot torqued and the toes flicking against themselves, itching from nervousness for the impending encounter. There are plenty of directions to explore. Gesture the foot and toes as you would gesture the body and hands.

[Anonymous No.1439841]

>>1439807
There's so many problems with it that you might as well just throw it into your recycle bin

[Anonymous No.1439849]

>>1439802
Noted and I did think it didn't really come together nicely.

>>1439831
Ok. Although the feet aren't supposed to be the primarly focus I'll be working on it since I do like drawing them and hands.

I'll try to incorporate as much as I can into the next version. Everything will be really different I think next time I post, but I'm a bit slow so this'll take a while. Also I think I might mess around a little bit more with the hand position. Thanks again.

[Anonymous No.1439867]

Voice your opinions.

[Anonymous No.1439868]

>>1439867
well..her arms and legs look awkward

[Anonymous No.1439872]

>>1439867
My opinion on this is that she is kinda flat on the canvas.
Learn how into 3D and it will be much easier to draw.

[Anonymous No.1439881]

>>1439867

[Anonymous No.1439891]

>>1439867
Work on your line quality. Vary it up a bit; have the line thicker where the shadows lay, where the body is hard, where the weight rests. This also includes line confidence; you shouldn't be using a bunch of small lines to make on big one, just draw the full line from the get-go.

[Anonymous No.1439896]

>>1439881

[Anonymous No.1439902]

>>1439807

no hands
overall really flat
balloon tits
absolutely no care put into your lines

I think line quality should be your priority right now, the whole thing is a scratched mess. Don't restate the same line a hundred times. Slow down, think more, and lay down more calculated strokes.

[Anonymous No.1439907]

Oh god the drapery. I have been drawing naked figures

to try and improve my anatomy for so long that i forgot clothes exist.

[Anonymous No.1439910]

>>1439824
yes, it's part of the plot, and the guy in the 2 and 3 panel is not the same in the 4 panel.

[Anonymous No.1439916]

i hate anatomu

[Anonymous No.1439919]

>>1439916
"want some of my dick"

[Anonymous No.1439925]

>>1439907
Here is a quick and dirty redline of your pic.

Your problem is that you aren't creating creases where the body pulls at the fabric, and so you're drawing the shadows in the wrong places--the fabric pulled by the body creates the shadows and creases. It happens at angles of the body, like the back arch--not on flat planes like the tummy and (flat) chest like you've drawn them.

Additionally, the skirt of the second girl is drawn at the wrong angle--the viewer would not be able to see up her skirt to this extent unless we were looking up at her from underneath, or if the skirt was purposely shorter in the front. I've shadowed in the way it should look, but I also added lines to show where, if you wanted to draw the skirt from underneath, you should show the significant folds with bolder lines.

[Anonymous No.1439929]

>>1439907
Im sorry but your anatomy is worse than the clothing in this picture, what the hell happened

[Anonymous No.1439937]

>>1439916

Apparently.

[Anonymous No.1439943]

>>1439925
Thanks a lot, i have no knowledge about clothing, i was avoiding it till now.

Its time to gather some books about it i guess.

About the angle,
oh god, i wanted so much to show her tights that i did the dress like that

without thinking and completely forgot about perspective,

thats what you get wen you draw without any thinking.
>>1439929
If i know what happened i wouldn't have done the mistakes i have done.

So if you know an obvious mistake pleas share it with me.

[Anonymous No.1439964]

>>1439943
in addition to all that you should notice the physics that's being applied to the hair. it looks like bumps and blobs when it should be flowing downwards.

i scribbled this out to show you what i mean

also you should look into foreshortening the black haired girl's right arm. the position looks a bit painful

[Anonymous No.1439965]

>>1439964
i forgot the scribble whoops

[Anonymous No.1439968]

>>1439943
The most obvious mistake is flounder mouth.
There are quite a bit of other mistakes though.

[Anonymous No.1439971]

Half year of drawing and i cant even get basic head construction right. Even after practicing with loomis and other sources. Seems if you can't draw then nothing will change it.

[Anonymous No.1439975]

>>1439965
Thanks for this ill try to practices my lines on the hair. But the colors are bothering me too,

i don't know if i should simplify them, i try to give direction with the colors but the end up puffy all the time.

Anyway thanks.

[Anonymous No.1439980]

>>1439907
this is a bit of a theatre thing, but you should have her left hand grabbing at her hair instead of her right. using the arm closest to us sort of hides away most of her body, restricting the readability of body language. in acting this is called putting your back to the audience, and is typically a pretty big nono

[Angel !!b54Js4RqEVd No.1440003]

>>1439943
im no teal but i thought i would take a crack at it
hope this helps

[Anonymous No.1440013]

>>1440003

>dem pasted facial features

[Anonymous No.1440025]

>>1440013
The faces were the last thing the person needed to worry about

[Anonymous No.1440033]

>>1440003
fuck off back to /co/ angel, you're not welcomed here.

[Anonymous No.1440048]

Animu explosion

[Angel !!b54Js4RqEVd No.1440050]

>>1440033
alright man, whatever
i was only going to make that one post anyway

[Anonymous No.1440067]

Heh random animation stuff

[Anonymous No.1440090]

>>1439902
Thanks for the advice, I'll be sure to do what I can to work on that flatness and those breasts as best I can .

Though, to be a little clear, those lines in the drawing are not the final lines at all. In fact, I won't even be actually using lines in the end result. Like the colors, the lines are only a placeholder for now, just to get an idea of things and I wouldn't leave them that way for the final piece at all. However, you're completely right in the other regard, I do have a bad habit of restating lines even when I try to make clean lineart and I definitely need to think more and plan things out when drawing. Thanks a lot for the help, bro. I appreciate your time.

[Anonymous No.1440129]

got some crits from irc

[Anonymous No.1440133]

a piece of shit i lost interest in months ago. first time using a tablet to draw...shit's hard yo.

[Anonymous No.1440135]

I have one more pass to do on this, which are all the white highlights. I think the shadows obscure a lot of the line work, but it wouldn't be Viewtiful Joe style without it.

[Anonymous No.1440146]

>>1440129
This is looking really good and your colouring style has be really intrigued. What're the chances of you doing a short colouring vid of series of screencaps or something? I'd really really like to know what your workflow is like

[Anonymous No.1440154]

>>1440129
It's good overall, but has a few issues. First, the extended leg's position in 3D space isn't quite clear. I would expect to find it just below her center of mass, but something about it's lighting makes it feel like it's coming forward toward the viewer.

The second problem is the treatment of the legs, both in their overall position and their contours. Both legs are very stiff in position, and as such doesn't have quite the same gestural flow that the upper body has. The contours of the legs (especially the bent one) feels too segmented - as if you were trying too hard to emphasize the individual muscles of the leg instead of the simple, gestural statement.

[Anonymous No.1440175]

some warmup sketches. REally want to get something close to completion so I can try my hand at some colouring like >>1440129

[Anonymous No.1440187]

>>1440067
this so animu

[Anonymous No.1440216]

Unfinished

[Anonymous No.1440232]

>>1440133

Big mistake I made was using the tablet too much.

It has led to the inevitable decline of my real life pencil work. Also I try to press ctrl-z when I mess up on paper a lot...

[Anonymous No.1440237]

Just wanted to get feedback for this before I color.

[Anonymous No.1440240]

>>1440154
Thanks. I am trying to work on anatomy now instead of just drawing tubelolis and i always mess up the legs so I keep looking up muscles. By the way do you have any tips on drawing two people hugging? I have a problem with sketching both at the same time?

>>1440175
>>1440146
You can try using these brushes I stole from tehmeh and uguuu https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5202208/big%20mess1.abr
I use sdfg, furry rake, generic wedge, and a small hard round brush for detail. I block in under the sketch layer then afterwards flatten and continue painting. If you dont have tilt enabled on your tablet then use sdfg and hard round because rake brushes are only great with tilt imo. I could link my stream but I dont know if thats allowed here

[Anonymous No.1440241]

>tfw manga is so easy to draw
>tfw people like this >>1440216 should just quit drawing in general
slime

[Anonymous No.1440251]

>>1440241
>tfw manga is so easy to draw.

[Anonymous No.1440252]

>>1440241
>tfw manga is so easy to draw
>tfw didn't post any manga

[Anonymous No.1440253]

>>1440237
I bet she's insecure about her poor anatomy, she's cute though.

>>1440240
Looks neat. The lumps on her knee looks a bit weird. Overall solid job.

[Anonymous No.1440256]

How's this looking? The concept is based off self-harm (I know, edgy angst etc) but it's a personal issue I've struggled with - here I've painted in where I have scars myself,but instead of blood/scars, it's flowers and vines and I'll obviously keep rendering + detail.

[Anonymous No.1440283]

>>1440256
The hair feels a bit too static against the flowing movement of the vines.

[Anonymous No.1440288]

I got a feeling something is wrong...

[Anonymous No.1440302]

>>1440288
The lower body looks like it belongs to a smaller person.

[Anonymous No.1440303]

>>1440288
leeeeeeeeegs

too short, generally fucked up

[Anonymous No.1440309]

>>1440302
>>1440303
Thanks
Is there significant problem on upper body?

[Anonymous No.1440310]

>>1440309
and if someone can give me some sketch on the legs/other problems, it would be very appreciated.

[Anonymous No.1440311]

Such a shitty thread...

wasted potential.

[Anonymous No.1440313]

>>1440311
No u

[Anonymous No.1440339]

>>1440332
>>1440336


http://www.mangaupdates.com/authors.html?id=8482
http://www.dahootch.com/

>Birth Place
New York City

His life drawing sketches are on his gallery too, and his notes are all in English on the sketches, also there was an email conversation with him detailing some stuff but I can't find the screencaps of it.

[Anonymous No.1440346]

>>1440339
Interesting. But is he Japanese born in New York? Because that would be less so.

[Anonymous No.1440348]

>>1440339
I don't know why so many people have a hard time believing that foreign manga artists exist.

Its not that japanese people are born with the race passive skill of drawing manga.

If you are serious about it all you need is to learn japanese for a few years and have good art.

But can you leave the comfort of your home country, your friends and all your siblings and go to a country that you barely speak the language to do manga?

Most people are not, and they ether do it as a hobby or the try to get over of there "animu phase" and finde work as artists in there home country.

ShindoL just have a very americanized way in his stories, full of drags and prostitution most of the time, very different than the usual ahegao/mindbrake of japanese artists.

[Anonymous No.1440350]

>>1440348
>I don't know why so many people have a hard time believing that foreign manga artists exist.
Because the Japanese are notoriously xenophobic.

[Anonymous No.1440353]

>>1440350

That's mostly the old people

And they're all starting to die out

[Anonymous No.1440361]

>>1440241
Who's the artist of your pic

[Anonymous No.1440375]

hello

[Anonymous No.1440381]

>>1440339
Fucking love ShindoL, aka DA HOOTCH

There's also woof, who is a Mexican living in Alabama. Pic related.

[Anonymous No.1440383]

>>1440381

>huge tits
>tiny stick arms

[Anonymous No.1440384]

>>1440383
>he doesn't like huge tits

[Anonymous No.1440392]

>>1440384

>missing my point

This guy's anatomy sucks

The coloring style is alright though.

[Anonymous No.1440393]

>>1440384
I don't understand how anyone does when it goes to that level of huge.

[Anonymous No.1440395]

>>1440392
You made a comment on proportions, which is pretty useless, considering what the guy is drawing. It's not like he fucked up a muscle's insertion or something.
Nice reaction pic btw. It made me laugh out loud :^)

[Anonymous No.1440397]

>>1440393
>when it goes to that level of huge.
You haven't seen much anime have you?

[Anonymous No.1440398]

>>1440397
wat

[Anonymous No.1440402]

>>1440395

>which is pretty useless, considering what the guy is drawing.

Sweet, the "It's his style" card. :^)

In the second drawing the hips are at an impossible angle and not on the same plane as the shoulders and tits because he's seen that pose a million times and he's just throwing it back up with no thought

[Anonymous No.1440410]

Sorry for the picture and fanart.

[Anonymous No.1440414]

>>1440402
That's cool, what's the reason for letting us know though?

[Anonymous No.1440418]

>>1440414
So you do not replicate the mistake when you try to make "sexy anime"

[Anonymous No.1440419]

>>1440410
Go eat a hat

[Anonymous No.1440420]

>>1440414

I'm a force of malice, pretense and apathy

[Anonymous No.1440422]

>>1440420
I LIKE this guy :3

[Anonymous No.1440423]

>>1440397
But that's cow anatomy so it's ok.

[Anonymous No.1440427]

>>1440419
lel

[Anonymous No.1440428]

Oh god how does anyone even do clean lines

[Anonymous No.1440430]

>>1440414
teens likes only academic drawing

[Anonymous No.1440441]

>>1440428
I can do only some fast strokes over new layer. and then erase edges that go to far.

[Anonymous No.1440443]

>>1440430

Yeah OK

[Anonymous No.1440475]

>>1440253
>I bet she's insecure about her poor anatomy, she's cute though.

Can you tell me exactly what to fix?

[Anonymous No.1440480]

>>1440475
Well your pose is generally stiff but nothing you can do right now if your gesture was stiff to begin with.

One thing thats really bothering me and you can probably fix is the feet,

she is not standing on them she is standing on her toes, as if she was wearing heels or doing that ballerina thing.

[Anonymous No.1440481]

>>1440475
Tiny hands, armpit starts too high, small hands short arms, far arm is flat, hip anatomy lacking

[Anonymous No.1440489]

>>1440475
you know full well that you are just bsing your way through anatomy, pointing out individual details would only further enable your laziness

[Anonymous No.1440490]

>>1440384
I like it : D

you could make
the arms a little
less thin though...
a the knee less
pointy

[Anonymous No.1440492]

>>1440490
And you should
make you screen
resolution more
than 50 pixels
wide

[Anonymous No.1440495]

>>1440348

The term foreign manga artist is an oxymoron though.

[Anonymous No.1440501]

>>1440490
that's not his you tard. he was just using it as an example.
a gallery if you want to see more:
http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?page=2&tags=eric_muentes

[Anonymous No.1440502]

>>1440441
You mean do every stroke separately on a new layer and then merge it? I never thought of that. I'll try it next time.

[Anonymous No.1440505]

>>1440480
>>1440481
I'll see if I can redraw it then. I'm not so sure exactly how to deal with the hips...

>>1440489I've been reading up on Michael Hampton's book and watch many of Vilppu's videos. I didn't see where I was going wrong until someone pointed them out to me.

[Anonymous No.1440506]

>>1440505
You're the one drawing, stop relying on the others to hold your hand and correct your anatomy for every drawing.

[Anonymous No.1440510]

>>1440502
No. Just one extra layer and trace your own image with fast strokes. Rotate image to fit your preference. Better to have longer lines where you can erase endings.

[Anonymous No.1440515]

>>1440501
Yeah, sorry... I read latter that it
wasn't his and google it... I like Eric's coloring
>>1440492
YOU ARE NOT
MY BOSS!!

[Anonymous No.1440537]

>>1440515
The line is
>YOU'RE NOT MY SUPERVISOR!

[Anonymous No.1440550]

>>1440237

[Anonymous No.1440552]

>>1440550
I'm glad I wasn't drinking anything when I opened this, or it would be all over my monitor.

[Anonymous No.1440554]

>>1440550
This is always interesting to read but it feels like the knowledge is intended for someone with advanced skill. It sounds kinda like: "don't be afraid to make some acrobatics" when you are learning how to walk.

[Anonymous No.1440556]

>>1440554
it shows what should be done and could be done with the right knowledge, and identifies that knowledge (gesture drawing) so that the artist can study the techniques further if they want to achieve the same results. What is the other option? Tell them to make small tweaks and ignore fundamental problems?

[Anonymous No.1440559]

>>1440554

One could either parrot Loomis and construction, or demonstrate it through practical application. I think we've had enough of the former on the board.

[Anonymous No.1440565]

>>1440559
I know but i wonder if he is taking it to far. That's why i kinda don't want to post anything here for critique too. I know on my i own i need more Loomis and i'm 20 years to early for doing what teal recommends. I wonder if he couldn't just make similar image with some things just fixed so the knowledge was in poster range.

[Anonymous No.1440568]

>>1440565
>I wonder if he couldn't just make similar image with some things just fixed so the knowledge was in poster range.

That gives me the impression you are still concerned with the finished drawing, rather than learning the process of drawing.

Stop that.

[Anonymous No.1440576]

>>1440550
This is an interesting read. Maybe I should do another pose entirely if this were the case.

[Anonymous No.1440580]

>>1440576
Maybe you should redo the pose until you get it right. You'll never get better if you avoid challenges.

[Anonymous No.1440582]

>>1440568
You need to know how to draw boring proportionally correct poses first before going into perspective, foreshortening and expressing emotions.Then, if those images were correct but boring it would be a good advice for next step to progress. Now it's still good knowledge but i wonder if that's what image poster should consider. Still others can profit from it.

[Anonymous No.1440587]

>>1440582
>You need to know how to draw boring proportionally correct poses first before going into perspective, foreshortening and expressing emotions

Then why bother redlining at all? That's no different than telling people to stop drawing figures and practice drawing primitives and perspective. Which I do think is excellent advice, but that has been repeated ad nauseum with little effect in other threads. If that's the level of discourse you want, just hop over to one of those threads.

These corrections show the process, they show gesture and shapes being used. They show the exact fundamental elements you talked about. A simple redline of minute fixes does not do that. That is the very opposite of how you'd want to teach a beginner.

[Anonymous No.1440613]

I wonder if i should do more fast shitty images instead of few less shitty ones that take much time. I'm really concerned with my speed. I see people drawing cool stuff in 10 minutes and it takes me day to do the same.

[Anonymous No.1440616]

>>1440613
>fast shitty images

There is your answer. It's not good to start a drawing thinking it will be shit, that guarantees it will be.

[Anonymous No.1440630]

>>1440613
Quantity > Quality in terms of practice

[Anonymous No.1440669]

>>1440580
I think if he did lots of studies of gestures then came back to it and tried to draw the same gesture armed with new knowledge would be the most beneficial thing to do.

[Anonymous No.1440677]

>>1440669
I used to do a lot of gestures using lovecastle and pixelovely but have fallen back a bit since school. I'm using a method taught to me in my classes but apparently it seems counterproductive if going by the redline is anything to stand by.

[Anonymous No.1440689]

First time drawing Animu, I want to finish this sketch I made with my Note 2.

>>1440652

Any ideas about what to change/improve?

[Anonymous No.1440694]

>>1440689

[Anonymous No.1440698]

>>1440694
Yep?

[Anonymous No.1440703]

>>1440550
Is this much better? I admit it's rather rough, but I just wanted to know if this is heading in the right direction...

[Anonymous No.1440705]

>>1440698
where are her clavicles, it looks like her shoulders are really low even with your neck fix.

Personally I dig the subtlety in how you hinted at the nose/part in the hair but everything else shows that you're not thinking enough about form. IE: Her head doesn't go back enough, the perspective on her hair is fucked (it's going back and up toward the right even though her head is facing toward the left) the shading is half-assed and blurry as hell, etc.

[Anonymous No.1440718]

>>1440339
>>1440346
>>1440348
>>1440381
ShindoL is American-born Japanese, with 100% blood. He just happened to be born in New York, that's all. I thought this was a common-knowledge thing. If not, my mistake.

Woof does doujinshi, but isn't a published mangaka.

[Anonymous No.1440726]

>>1440705
I think I blew it :/

Thanks for the feedback though

[Anonymous No.1440760]

>>1440726
Just remember this stuff for next time :)

[Anonymous No.1440777]

>>1440232
i only pencils tbh, i should practice tablet more, but i don't have a desk, and working on my bed leads to producing shit like what i posted :(

this was something i did about 2 years ago, combination of pencils and mouse painting.

it was all thanks to fit that i catually learned how to render and paint...still i have a long way to go. i need to get back into practise

[Anonymous No.1440803]

Critique please, I usually don't do anime/chibi but made an exception for a friend

[Anonymous No.1440812]

>>1440803
Your linework is very lumpy. The arms are two different thicknesses. It also doesn't look much like Taiga, who matches shyness and self-consciousness with grumpy cruelness. If you hadn't had the "toradora" at the bottom I would have thought it was a sad Asuka or something. The little circles everywhere don't look like shines, but sweat (or tears where they are near the eyes). Most of all, your form is really lumpy. Even with chibis your form should be tight and three dimensional.

[Anonymous No.1440816]

Meh.

I made this a long time ago. Probably the best thing I'll ever make, because I suck.

[Anonymous No.1440851]

>>1440816

Holy fucking shit

[Anonymous No.1440915]

>>1440760
I'm so sorry Anon

[Anonymous No.1440925]

>>1440915
Like for real

[Anonymous No.1440949]

>>1440816
that would actually be decent if it weren't for all those terrible effects

[Anonymous No.1440964]

>>1440925
Done for today

[Anonymous No.1440970]

thing is going to be a butthole/cum study

[Anonymous No.1440975]

>>1440970
Remember you can always use yourself for reference.

[Anonymous No.1440978]

>>1440970
Devistate?

Also what's wrong with her spine?

[Anonymous No.1440984]

>>1440964
Really don't know why you spent so much effort on something you didn't even fix, just move on

[Anonymous No.1441035]

>>1440978
the tentacle monster broke it
>>1440975
no bullies allowed

[Anonymous No.1441043]

>>1441035
Her head looks enormous...Makes her seem like a small child with silicone implants!

[Anonymous No.1441049]

>>1441035
I like it overall, but if you said that this is going to be a cum study, the cum is very weak, looks like cream or milk,

remember cum is made by the mix of two liquids one more thick and white that will not show the color of the skin

and one more thin and transparent that will also show a bit of the skin color underneath.

[Anonymous No.1441059]

>>1441035
I'm not very good... but I hope you see some points here with her head, face, back (good god) and leg/foot.

[Anonymous No.1441104]

>>1441059
I don't know what you did, but it looks a lot better now.

[Anonymous No.1441108]

>>1441104
He unfucked her spine. Do some more anatomy studies and get a better feel for how the body moves. The angle you had her at made it seem like her back was broken.

[Anonymous No.1441112]

>>1441108
I'm not the artist you phagget

[Anonymous No.1441115]

>>1441112
And how am I supposed to know that when you're both anonymous you fucking clod?

[Anonymous No.1441119]

>>1441115
you probably thought it was the artist saying

>I don't know what you did, but it looks a lot better now.

Implying you believed another artist fixed the proportions for him, am I right?

[Anonymous No.1441122]

>>1441108
It's still pretty fucked... but not quite so much. I also made her head a lot smaller, her facial profile more... human and enlarged the leg/foot that's close to the viewer. That's it.

[Anonymous No.1441127]

I moved the back down a bit. I'll edit the foot later. this pose all ways gives me trouble when I try and do it.

I'm leaving the head big because I think it looks cute that way

[Anonymous No.1441132]

>>1441127
it looks awful and wrong
not wrong "you did it on purpose" way but wrong "I dont know what I am doing" way

[Anonymous No.1441146]

>>1441132
I think it looks. Kawaii

[Anonymous No.1441147]

>>1440851

I'm not sure this is a good response or not.

>>1440949

>terrible effects

Like the fucked up fabric? Yeah. I have a version of it that was 100% ink and paper first. What you saw before is my very first attempt at using photoshop. I haven't improved much since.

[Anonymous No.1441162]

>>1439613
it has that feel to it, doesnt it?

[Anonymous No.1441187]

>>1441132

You seriously need to specify what he did wrong. You can't just go around accusing people of fuck ups without providing critique. The anatomy and proportion is well, the color palette and skin tones are great, and there is an obvious understanding of form.

Seriously, what's wrong with it, aside from the cum having too flat of a texture and the fact that it's unfinished?

[Anonymous No.1441214]

>>1441147
Yeah, your Photoshop effects shine through way too much. It looks better digital, but you should re-do it without using as many effects.

[Anonymous No.1441245]

>>1441214

Thanks for the advice. I actually really appreciate it. I'll try it again as a paint job rather than a sp. effect job at a later date (this summer.)

Right now, I'm still stuck in my shitty "lets try to draw like Stjepan Sejic in 45 minutes!" stage. Which is a bad idea, admittedly, because my anatomy is still fucked and I can't do anything consistently.

I keep thinking I should have a "draw on paper, color on computer" method ironed out. But I don't.

[Anonymous No.1441248]

>>1440984
I would fix it if I knew what's wrong

[Anonymous No.1441409]

>>1439867
>>1439807
>>1440216
>>1440288
>>1440703
>>1441248

lol, just stop drawing, you're wasting your time, seriously

[Anonymous No.1441411]

>>1441409
>Drawing
>Waste of time
Pick one

[Anonymous No.1441415]

>>1441409
Hello, welcome to /ic/!
It seems you are having mouse or tourettes issues today, as you have misclicked on /ic/ when you meant to go to /b/.
Don't worry, anon is always here to help. Included is a link to redirect you to the proper area!

>>>/b/

[Anonymous No.1441417]

>>1441248
dude just start drawing something else and be consequent with your construction, given that you need start off drawing by constructing to begin with

[Anonymous No.1441432]

>>1440428
no critiques or anything? ok... ;_;

[Anonymous No.1441443]

>>1441432
everything is wrong from perspective to anatomy and from, construct before drawing.

[Anonymous No.1441459]

>>1441443
Thanks man, I'll work on that. By perspective do you mean how the table looks like it's more of a wall? I'm not sure what is wrong with the form though would you mind specifying?

[Anonymous No.1441461]

>>1440428
her face is wiiide, it looks like her body is flat and is facing a direction the rest of her body doesn't agree with to begin with also basically this >>1441443

[Anonymous No.1441478]

>>1441415
Thanks for welcoming me, no I'm fine here thanks

[Anonymous No.1441479]

>>1441461
Aww great.. lol I see now what you mean by her body looking flat. The head is turned though and I thought that was clear, but I'm really starting to see why it might not be. Thanks immensely, It truly helped me see where I went wrong.

[Anonymous No.1441484]

>>1441187
Not that guy, but the anatomy is completely borked aside from lower leg and foot. The back is especially awkward.
The coloring is great, but they need to stop trying to color these images and start working on exercises that focus on anatomy and proportions.

[Anonymous No.1441489]

>>1440970
>>1441035
>>1441059
>>1441127
Oppai loli? I can get behind this. I like how plump she is. I am trying plump things also.

[Anonymous No.1441519]

>>1441059
The mouth is still a bit too forward. Looks almost like the rightmost (viewer's left) side of her mouth is stalking out like a snail's eye.

Perhaps pulling the inner lip in a bit might make that look smoother?

Otherwise, your style is very solid. I commend you.

[Anonymous No.1441520]

>>1441417

see
>>1441187

[Anonymous No.1441544]

Is Loomis still a good place to start if I want to get into drawing mango?

I'm not interested in drawing wacky little cartoons like his and I've seen a few people say he's shit.

[Anonymous No.1441545]

>>1441544

He's the shit, yeah.

[Anonymous No.1441548]

>>1441544
Actually Japan is one of the only countries to still print Figure drawing for all its worth.

[Anonymous No.1441553]

>>1441544

>I'm not interested in drawing wacky little cartoons like his

[Anonymous No.1441560]

>>1441544
you obviously need more LOOMIS. No in all seriousness, it's good assuming you know how to draw basic shapes in perspective and stuff that is primarily taught in Fun with a Pencil

[Anonymous No.1441561]

>>1441544

No, learn perspective and basic form drawing first before Loomis/Vilppu/Hampton/Bridgman/Bammes/Hogarth/Whothefuckever

[Anonymous No.1441569]

>>1441248

>where are her clavicles, it looks like her shoulders are really low even with your neck fix.

Personally I dig the subtlety in how you hinted at the nose/part in the hair but everything else shows that you're not thinking enough about form. IE: Her head doesn't go back enough, the perspective on her hair is fucked (it's going back and up toward the right even though her head is facing toward the left) the shading is half-assed and blurry as hell, etc.

seriously can you not read or something bro you didn't fix literally anything I recommended and now you're bitching when people tell you to move on. Come on now. Not gonna hold your hand here.

[Anonymous No.1441572]

>>1441553
That's cartoony.

[Anonymous No.1441575]

>>1441572

[Anonymous No.1441578]

>>1441548
really? Britbong here, and my copy is from 2011
>>1441561
also this, big time. There's no point in learning about bones if you can't deal with them as cylinders in space

[Anonymous No.1441581]

>>1441578
Eeeh, I could be wrong then, something about Japan and Loomis being poplar there or something.

[Anonymous No.1441584]

>>1441561
Successful Drawing before Fun with a pencil?

[Anonymous No.1441585]

>>1441581

Some of Loomis' books were recently reprinted, I think like 2010. Not sure if all his books have been reprinted by now.

[Anonymous No.1441589]

>>1441584

Fun with a pencil is retarded, skip it.

Successful drawing is basically what the point of Fun with a Pencil is, just more thorough.

[Anonymous No.1441591]

>>1441578

English editions only recently came back into print last year. Japanese editions have remained in print for much longer.

[Anonymous No.1441592]

>>1441589
Glad to hear that, those cartoon faces make me cringe everytiem

[Anonymous No.1441612]

>>1441589
So, in what order should I read the books?
Successful drawing first, what's next?

[Anonymous No.1441621]

>>1441612
Fun with a pencil first. At least go over the shit he's trying to teach.

[Anonymous No.1441637]

>>1441489
get your proportions right.
when sitting and holding your knees, your knees should be at the height of the shoulders.

does she look like she can do that?
no?
it means either her legs are too short or her upper body too long.

[Anonymous No.1441645]

>>1441621
To make it easier for you I'll explain quick.

He's trying to teach you basic forms and shapes concealed as silly faces to make it more fun.

[Anonymous No.1441676]

I'm trying to perfect anime noses. What do you think?

[Anonymous No.1441678]

>>1441676
animu/10

Now stop wasting image replies.

[Anonymous No.1441681]

>>1441676
Can't even draw a straight line that small.
Pity

[Anonymous No.1441687]

>>1441676
-5/10
Kill yourself

[Anonymous No.1441688]

>>1441676
it's too big.

[Anonymous No.1441689]

>>1441676

I think you need to turn on pressure sensitivity.

[Anonymous No.1441705]

Can i get a redline on this or somthing. I can't seem to fix it.

[Anonymous No.1441740]

What i've been working on the past weekend.

Have at you, Critiques!

Notes:
-Yes there is a bit a design inconsistency in the knee joints.
-working on a colored version
-I miss using PaintSAI, fucking macs.

[Anonymous No.1441741]

What i've been working on the past weekend.

Have at you, Critiques!

Notes:
-Yes there is a bit a design inconsistency in the knee joints.
-working on a colored version
- I miss using PaintSAI, fucking macs

[Anonymous No.1441744]

I started to pick some request at /a/ drawthreads for me to learn full body drawings and shit. Posting my wip for some comments and constructive criticism. I'm actually having trouble with proportions.

[Anonymous No.1441749]

>>1441744
Looks stiff. I'd have her upper body leaning more forward. right now it doesn't look like she's in motion, more like she was posing and there was a strong breeze.

[Anonymous No.1441750]

>>1441741
loved that character

[Anonymous No.1441766]

>>1441741
It looks flat. The blue penciling can't mask away its dull flatness.

[Anonymous No.1441767]

>>1441744
the right arm and leg are wrong.

[Anonymous No.1441782]

>>1441637
>does she look like she can do that?
Uh... yes.

[Anonymous No.1441803]

>>1441766
that was the idea.

to draw dfc.

[Anonymous No.1441809]

morning doodles. Drawing lots of heads lately because I feel like I'm not quite where I want to be with faces and such.
I've got a pretty empty day ahead of me so I might even work on a comic.

[Anonymous No.1441812]

>>1441127
no amount of pretty rendering is going to make up for that insane excuse for a human skull

[Anonymous No.1441816]

ok, this is the first time I'm posting here. But I would like to get some criticism for this piece I did in class.

[Anonymous No.1441818]

>>1441816
You REALLY need to learn your anatomy, anon.

I suggests the Vilppu videos, they explain forms, gesture, anatomy, perspective and proportions quite well.

[Anonymous No.1441820]

>>1441818
Any vids to start with in particular?

[Anonymous No.1441821]

>>1441820
Oh and I have another one, that I drew after watching some sycra

[Anonymous No.1441828]

>>1441821
You need to be wayyyy more confident with your lines. Furthermore, you All you're really doing right now is creatively arranging scratchy lines until they look vaguely like what you think a person looks like

[Anonymous No.1441836]

>>1441828

i have epilepsy.

[Anonymous No.1441839]

>>1441803
>to draw dfc

Well you have failed.

[Anonymous No.1441841]

- too muscular
- bad face
where else did i go wrong?

[Anonymous No.1441845]

>>1441841
Looks like she's about to slip and fall. That left arm is also disproportionately large as well as muscular. That might be what you're going for I dunno.

[Anonymous No.1441865]

>>1441841
The lighting is kinda weird on her, like she's standing right up against a pool or something. Too much dodge and burn. (Even if you weren't dodging and burning.)

[Anonymous No.1441868]

>>1441841
Her right ass cheek is shaped differently than her left. Its less round. Also that weird streak of light on it.

[Anonymous No.1441867]

>>1441841
Too me her right arm looks too small. The tricept should be stretched more because and relaxed. So far it indicates also her unseen right shoulder is way in front while the her back says it should be futher back.

[Anonymous No.1441871]

>>1441489
Is that you magister? Those are some nice boobs.

[Anonymous No.1441936]

>>1441489
The creases below her knees distort the surface of the bed, making it look like it's going downwards.
Feet placement/orientation is favoring this downward effect.

[Anonymous No.1441974]

>>1441741
there is no nose.
you literally left out the nose. there isn't even a nose in the profile.
unacceptable

[Anonymous No.1441980]

>>1441744
proportions, motherfucker.
hands are too short. jesus christ how can you even not see this?
i just don't understand.

when checking for proportions, just imagine the bodyparts moving.
imagine her putting the knees together, are they the same length?
imagine her letting her arms hang. are they too short?
it needs to be long enough so that the complete palm can rest on the beginning of the tighs.

you know, anime is still drawing something resembling humans. proportions are the most important thing to always check.
it should LOOK like something that can do everything a human can do.
she should at least look like she should be able to wipe her own ass without breaking her fucking back, like a normal human being.

[Anonymous No.1441982]

>>1441782
not even close.
can you imagine where the pelvis ends?
then you can imagine how far it could bend.
and then you'll realize her knees can reach her breast at best

[Anonymous No.1441994]

>>1441841
left arm is fine, right arm is just too small or not shaded correctly so it looks like its positioned in a way where it would have to be small to look like that

[Anonymous No.1442041]

>>1441744
Really stiff. Looks like a plastic figure. Hell, most plastic figures these days look softer than that.

>>1441980
The problem is compounded by the foreshortening being fucked as well.

>>1441809
I kinda like this, but the top right and top left faces seem to have the eyes too high up (or the nose/mouth too low). Oddly, the lines below the eyes for these two seem to be the right position for them.

[Anonymous No.1442043]

first project of digital drawing.

Red line, or any critique would be nice.

[Anonymous No.1442047]

>>1442043
Cleaned up a little. God damn, tablets are really hard to handle.

[Anonymous No.1442049]

>>1442047
>>1442043
move on to a new drawing, when you're a beginner it's important to make many quick sketches instead of polished turds.

[Anonymous No.1442059]

>>1442049
just trying to get into digital drawing and I would really like to "finish" a drawing for once. Always had a problem with coloring when drawing on paper, that's why I tried digital.

[Anonymous No.1442064]

>>1442049
>>1442059

also, I am looking for advice trying to improve THIS one.

[Anonymous No.1442065]

>>1442047
Lose the grid. you're constricting your figure.
>be free like a rainbow faggot, let your figure leap off the page and dance in the space it occupies, as multicoloured dildo's shoot up from the ground, let the forms prance around the canvas catching them seamlessly between your buttocks; soon your drawings will have rhythm like the blood pulsating out your sphincter... oh the glory.

[Anonymous No.1442069]

>>1442065
ok lost the grid

[Anonymous No.1442070]

>>1442064
and this guys (>>1442049) advice is spot on. no one is going to buy that drawing, in a weeks time you'll hate it, so why waste valuable drawing time working on the same piece. just ditch it and draw another one. then repeat until your fingers bleed.

[Anonymous No.1442073]

>>1442070
ye I know it's a very good advice, but I still want to try to fucking color a drawing. It's not about improving on the tablet (right know) like I said I mainly draw with pen and paper. I just want to try coloring something and thought I'd ask for something you guys want to change

[Anonymous No.1442075]

>>1442073
I'd change errything, but if it's just practice tablet stuff, you might as draw lines, circles and curves.

[Anonymous No.1442076]

>>1442043
>>1442047
Stone the crows, it's a titan! Get behind the walls!

Go practice your construction and anatomy before trying this again. It's pretty much a lost cause.

Get a reference. This thing looks nothing like a human.

Unless you were drawing a titan. Or eoten. Whatever. In which case, good job, you've successfully captured their unnerving, screwed up anatomy.

Neck muscles are gigantic, torso is whack, pelvis is really fucking strange, arms are sausages, hands are fucked, knees are balljoints, feet are knobbly things.

>>1442073
Change everything, if you're gonna change something. You won't be able to color something like this worth dick.

[Anonymous No.1442087]

>>1442076
yeah if you really just want to practice colouring do a landscape study or something, go do a plein air of your mum when she's in the toilet. sinners are everywhere my friend pray for righteous salvation.

[Anonymous No.1442089]

>>1442076
Not this guy, but you just changed the stance. I don't think that's the problem.

His drawing looked more like someone who stands more tense. Not saying that it is correct in any way. But the stance is nothing "unnatural".

I think he is aiming for something like that:
http://www.ericharshbarger.org/lego/images/mononoke/mononoke_0.jpg

[Anonymous No.1442091]

>>1441741
Her legs look short, especially the thighs.

[Anonymous No.1442113]

>>1442089
I saw it as a figure study gone awry, so yeah, I agree. The stance isn't the problem here.

I'm not really seeing the connection with that image you linked, though. It looks like the same pose I drew, albeit at a different angle.

[Anonymous No.1442117]

>>1442113
Whoops. Cropped off the original image.

[Amomynous No.1442119]

>>1441816

[Anonymous No.1442123]

>>1442113
ye you're right, I searched my reference folder to give him a corresponding reference and found something, I think he tried to do the one on the bottom mid, but made her standing up and made the hand appear in the front.

[Anonymous No.1442137]

>>1442123
Huh. Nice catch.

[Anonymous No.1442152]

>>1442119
I go to sleep, then wake up and see this done to my drawing.

>I approve.

And thanks by the way, I'm gonna go work on my Lumus approach books now.

[Anonymous No.1442208]

>>1442073
Stop being a stubborn little prick and start a new one, because this fucking sucks and there's nothing you can salvage from it. If you want to color it then just fucking colour it, holy shit, but don't beg for advice on your shitty drawing if you don't even want to practice drawing figures properly

stupid cunt

[Anonymous No.1442213]

>>1441816
Dude's got double biceps

[Anonymous No.1442223]

Cancer bubble is about to burst

[Anonymous No.1442285]

>>1442152

Work on line quality and motorics first

Do you even Petan Han fgt?

[Anonymous No.1442293]

>>1442285
Not him but should those peter han exercises help or something? I did like 2 full a4 pages every day till i did them like 100 and didn't improve my lines. Seems you need even talent to draw a straight line.

[Anonymous No.1442307]

>>1441816
>I would like to get some criticism for this piece I did in class.

Am I the only one who cringes every time a half-ass doodle is called "a piece"..?

[Anonymous No.1442313]

>>1442307
I do cringe every time someone uses "Am I the only one who..."

But yeah, he probably could have called that a doodle.

[Anonymous No.1442329]

>>1442293
Are you the same asshole that complained he put in 800 hours of practice and said he was not getting better because he had no talent!?

[Anonymous No.1442373]

>>1442329
Oh boy here we go again hehe.

>>1442293
Listen you, I've said it before and I'll say it again - talent has almost absolutely nothing to do with anything. Just keep drawing, my dear Anon.

[Anonymous No.1442510]

>>1442373
talent is not a factor, but retardation is. you won't learn anything if you can't grasp information.

[Anonymous No.1442557]

>>1442510
And apply it.

All the knowledge in the world about driving doesn't mean jack shit unless you apply what you've learned and practice.

[Anonymous No.1442564]

>>1441489

[Anonymous No.1442569]

>>1442564
Wall of mega text.

[Anonymous No.1442571]

>>1439576
How does one into copying styles?
I never get it right, how the hell can animators successfully draw the same style consistently?

[Anonymous No.1442575]

>>1442571
my try at copying ararararagi-san.

Should you just copy and reference the style until you get it down?
Or maybe it's a deeper thing, I'm completely lost, it's so frustrating.

[Anonymous No.1442724]

>>1442571
they trace over the model sheets over and over again until they can draw the character without it

inb4 >tracing

[Anonymous No.1442731]

>>1442575
I would like to know that too, I mean how the animators work?
Also, look at the chin and the shoulder of the one on the right, and then look at your middle sketch

[Anonymous No.1442737]

>>1442731
The animators work on copying styles by breaking down the character into 3 basic things.

Proportions, forms and details.
This is where actually knowing how to construct figures help as unless you have a massive amount of experience you would be relying on it.

Here are some examples
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMUYG1hkY5c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rNhjFy1jKg

[Anonymous No.1442844]

>>1442724
>inb4 >tracing
That's a legitimate way of studying. As long as you don't show those studies to anyone, you're fine. As long as you don't trace and claim you freehanded it, you're fine.

/ic/ can't seem to wrap their heads around the concept of tracing for study reasons.

[Slowbro No.1442913]

I'm planning to render this realistically, but I figured this would be a better place than the draw-thread to ask. I can't find any good reference of a girl sitting from this angle. I'd lone a good ref pic or a redline. Thanks!

[Anonymous No.1442914]

>>1442913
>I can't find any good reference of a girl sitting from this angle.
You need to learn how to construct people from simple forms and apply perspective. Look at teal's critiques, there's one similar. I believe it's in the sticky.

[Anonymous No.1442986]

>>1440241
If they keep drawing they won't suck so bad, but I'm going to assume you just posted that to be funny.

[Anonymous No.1443065]

>>1441489
>>1441637
>>1442564

Serious question here. That redline is the bomb by the way, BUT are all humans really that easy to "gerneralize". I mean some people got short legs, for example I found the original of >>1442564 hotter, because I dig small chicks. So yea, can you really applay all those little rules to every human?

[Anonymous No.1443066]

>>1443065
>BUT are all humans really that easy to "gerneralize".
Yeah, there's something called average proportions. You should learn how to draw an average person before you go into strange proportions.
Even if you're a small chick or shorter, your legs are going to be a certain size in relation to the rest of your body and how many heads tall you are. No matter what, there is a ratio that is followed.

Learn the rules before you break/alter them, and all that.

[Anonymous No.1443072]

>>1443065
It depends on what you're aiming for. I mean if all you want to draw are short-limbed, plump women then go for it. That doesn't mean you can escape criticism though.

That particular artist's piece eschews precise anatomical accuracy for exaggerated sexiness and eroticism and that comes at a cost. I mean your boner might respond to that girl's subtle curves, plumpness and her shortness but someone else's boner might curl inwards when they perceive her as having T-rex arms and baby legs. It's quite literally different strokes for different folks but here at /ic/ we focus on attention to anatomy and 'correctitude'. You can break the rules some other time.

[Anonymous No.1443074]

>>1443065
I am not teal but the body is usually created with some basic rules, except if tis deformed from some health problem or something,

so usually if a person has short legs it will also have a short torso. Of cures now people have very variations but they don't have that great of a deference, some cm at most.

What this person wanted to draw was a loli with big breasts but he got overboard with wanted to show meat and the belly that made the torso too huge for a loli, teals correction is following the original torso,

f he made a smaller base torso then he could have smaller legs that would look right.

[Anonymous No.1443102]

is the only way to get clean lines on photoshop drawing and erasing until you get it however you want it?
it gets a little tedious after a while

[Anonymous No.1443111]

>>1441836
I lol'd

[Anonymous No.1443112]

>>1443102
There is also great line control, but for me drawing straight and curved lines for months in boring, you will probably get bored and its a waste of time. You draw lines when you draw anything when you practice anatomy, when you are doing gestures, when you are drawing man made objects. Just keep in the back of your head whenever you put a line on a paper that you also want line control and with time you will get better if you don't forget about it. Practice things that exite you and will keep you going, keep line control on the back of your head.

[Anonymous No.1443114]

>>1443102
the more you draw the less you undo

[Anonymous No.1443122]

>>1443114
>>1443112
what I mean is if there's a way to make these kind of lines without the use of either the eraser tool or a stabilizer like SAI or OP, Im not talking of ctrl+z'ing till you get a perfect line, Im talking about "cleaning" the line till its good enough.

[Anonymous No.1443130]

>>1443122
Who said anything about ctrl+z? line control is when you don't have to guess where your line will go the only true way to do perfectly clean lineart is to use lines only where they mast be used to do big comfident lines. Other than that you will have to ither ctrl+z or erase. Vectoring of curse is out of the question because you will never improve using it and everything will look cheap and stiff.

[Anonymous No.1443160]

>>1443122
practice all day every day.

I have seen artist livestreams where they make perfect, smooth lines without erasing too much.

[Anonymous No.1443347]

>>1443065

There is a difference between short legs, and out of perspective legs with weakly drawn feet. If the legs are short, then you compensate for that in your measurements. That's doesn't change the fact that bent legs form a triangle with the knee, ankle, and pelvis socket, and that can be used to draw in perspective. It's not a rule about proportions so much as it is basic logic.

[Anonymous No.1443351]

We're over bump limit btw

[Anonymous No.1443578]

I wish to be the little mangaka. ;_;

[Anonymous No.1443656]

>>1443578
http://www.pixiv.net/info.php?id=1597&lang=en

start from here

[Anonymous No.1444125]

>>1441705
Listen, I'm far from perfect, and let me preface this with the fact that I'm still learning and suffer from some of the things I'm going to critique. But, essentially you need to develop several skills(which you can find in the sticky):

1. Line confidence: you need to draw with at least a semblance of form, try to draw things in one line. Don't worry if you screw up, you can always try again. Also, find "dynamic sketching" on youtube for the good pointers on line quality and drawing in general.

2. An understanding of form: you need to analyze shapes and look at how they're going to turn out, learn to think in 3d and in basic shapes. Of course, all the understanding of shapes won't work without practice, and you won't know what shapes to use unless practice drawing from reference (and that means drawing lots and lots of people). And, this leads to point 3:

3. Use references: From your title and basic shape, I figured out the vocaloid you were doing,and found references which helped with proportions, shapes, and identifying features. Just because you're drawing anime and doing a pose 'from imagination' doesn't mean you should avoid using references. Used in conjunction with construction and an understanding of form/value, you can draw anything.


Here's also a blueline where I try to solve most of the problems, try and stick to clear lines, and try to analyze and understand the form. Again, I'm shit, but I still thing(or hope) that this advice is helpful and makes clear some concepts. Keep drawing.

[Anonymous No.1445280]

fucking around with linewieght

also I've recently taken a liking to prego/bondage

[Anonymous No.1445310]

>>1445280
Not to diss you or anything, but fucking hell, keep it pg-13, or at least keep the more extream fetishes to yourself. Anime has a bad enough rep as it is. The last thing we want is to be associated with dAs inflated diaper furrie artists.

[Anonymous No.1445837]

>>1445280
this is really disturbing
Get your proportions right