unmotivated loser here. does there exist a free online course that I can follow that will get me doing studies and exercises to improve my shit? I really need to be told what to do and directed, otherwise I never bother getting any art done at all.

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Anonymous Sat Mar 9 06:28:21 2013 No.1396319 [Reply] [Original]

unmotivated loser here.
does there exist a free online course that I can follow that will get me doing studies and exercises to improve my shit?

I really need to be told what to do and directed, otherwise I never bother getting any art done at all.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 9 06:56:21 2013 No.1396323 I second this.

Anonymous Sat Mar 9 07:25:21 2013 No.1396333
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It seems that in this forum, what you see is what you get, seeing as how it's entirely dedicated itself to making learning resources freely accessible to the commoner.
I hope you see the irony in asking a forum like this for a free source of learning.

But on my whim, you may have become lucky.

I like teaching, but I'm neither officially a teacher, nor do I fully know what must be done to train you to be the perfect artist, or am I a master of art by any stretch; but you seem like a dependent, spineless type. We may benefit from each other.

If you submit yourself to me, I will accept my role as your art dominus. The learning experience will be just as rich for me as it will be for you.

However, I stress the condition that you must follow my instructions or I will cease to guide you on the path of self enlightenment.

Do you accept?

Anonymous Sat Mar 9 07:27:21 2013 No.1396334

Not really, I've learned that you just have to research a bit and figure it out yourself.
You just have to be aware of what you need to learn to improve.
You should practice gesture, anatomy, perspective, color theory, and value, and lighting mainly.
Afterwards you can get into composition and more advanced lighting.

I recommend still life studies at home, and either draw people outside or join a life drawing class. Drawing from photos alone won't cut it.

Anonymous Sat Mar 9 08:05:21 2013 No.1396352

Learning how to learn indipendantly, set your own goals and find your own way is an essential skill for almost all artists.
You'll need that skill when you do conceptart, fine art, illustration, design, animation, if you want to go freelance or open a business... and in a lot of other jobs that aren't relevant to art.

I'm thinking hard where self-reliance and self-dispcipline doesn't apply.. website designers maybe? Designers for furniture catalogues? Cell painter?

Self-discipline is a skill, it can be learned, just be clever, experiment what works for you.
Schedules? Sketch Groups? That creepy ass mentor there? Listening to audio books while sketching? Introspection and self-healing to stop procrastrinating?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 9 08:09:21 2013 No.1396355 File: 58 KB, 502x560, creepy-kid-with-pork-and-beans.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1396333 I am not sure if this is a parody or not.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 9 08:11:21 2013 No.1396357 >>1396355 I don't mean the picture, I mean the text which shows serious warning signs of a controlling and abusive personality type

Anonymous Sat Mar 9 08:22:21 2013 No.1396360
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>>1396355
>>1396357
I can assure you that I am not an abusive person.

But if there is someone willing to do whatever I tell them, I'll see this as a sure opportunity to improve my teaching ability.

I see it as an open invitation for an exchange of benefit.

Anonymous Sat Mar 9 09:07:21 2013 No.1396377

>>1396334
yeah thats the biggest problem, having to both acquire the "plan of learning" in order to actually start the learning process.

I need guidance.

>>1396352
I am not looking to be a professional, I just enjoy the art creating and wish I had a path I could follow.

Anonymous Sat Mar 9 09:19:21 2013 No.1396379

>>1396360
That's not how one improves at art though. You are supposed to think critically and analyze what you are doing wrong and then spend your exercise time intelligently accordingly, not mindlessly following the orders of some idiot who himself doesn't even know what he's doing.

Listening to wannabe teachers is one of the worst things any beginner could do.

Anonymous Sat Mar 9 09:36:21 2013 No.1396384

>>1396379
What this anon said.

>>1396360
Plus listening to some kind of parody of a controlling, abusive personalities isn't healthy, just a warning.

>I stress the condition that you must follow my instructions or I will cease to guide you on the path of self enlightenment.
>you seem like a dependent, spineless type. We may benefit from each other.
>But if there is someone willing to do whatever I tell them

Anons take this guy's mentoring if you really enjoy being belittled, insulted, objectified, threatend and if you like fits of rage, manipulation and stalking :).

100% sure he will blow up about this and try to discredit me, with the exact tactics mentioned above in 3...2...

Anonymous Sat Mar 9 09:41:21 2013 No.1396385

>>1396379
I never said it was the best choice they could make, but I'd be up for it..

The best choice they could make is to figure out their own learning strategy. I'd benefit by putting my good learning strategies through trial and error, and by the looks of things OP was looking for anyone with some sense of direction.

I don't like your indirect insult, but I understand where you're coming from and agree with your points.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 9 09:43:21 2013 No.1396386 >>1396384 >objectified, threatend and if you like fits of rage, manipulation and stalking :). No comment.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 10 00:04:21 2013 No.1396885 Learning and inspiration is everywhere, even inside of you. Before seeking someone to whip you in shape, you should wake up first.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 10 00:26:21 2013 No.1396899 File: 5 KB, 160x160, 523853_110623162427182_1670395587_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1396333 >I will accept my role as your art dominus. I fucking lost my spaghetti.

Challenge Accepted Sun Mar 10 01:36:21 2013 No.1396935
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>>1396333
This post is genuinely intriguing, the potential for lols and learning alone make it worth pursuing.

I hereby accept on the following conditions:

1) We shall communicate solely on this board.

2) You shall namefag yourself with a secure trip when necessary (name of your choice)

3) I too shall namefag as required (choose the name you wish me to take on oh art dominus)

4) I shall do my best to fulfill your demands until such time you decide I'm not worth your time or you have nothing more to teach me.

Do you accept this contract? (Pic not mine)

>>	Art Dominus !!hFKFSXMhlJC Sun Mar 10 01:37:21 2013 No.1396937 >>1396935 Your name will be Jane.

>>	Jane !!lnrLUupipRO Sun Mar 10 01:49:21 2013 No.1396942 >>1396937 Yes, my name will be Jane, though I doubt you are he I will follow your decrees for the time being.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 10 01:50:21 2013 No.1396943 File: 21 KB, 609x480, 13532453465.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1396935 >>1396937 Things are starting to get interesting.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 10 01:56:21 2013 No.1396945 File: 11 KB, 256x256, 1357772632482.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >this thread

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 10 03:09:21 2013 No.1396951 File: 502 KB, 500x362, 1327949543219.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] this is cute as fuck

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 10 03:15:21 2013 No.1396954 >>1396951 Cutest art domination ever.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 10 08:53:21 2013 No.1397069 File: 22 KB, 247x232, 1357533288516.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1396935 >>1396937 >>1396942 this thread

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 10 10:23:21 2013 No.1397101 File: 62 KB, 500x504, 1288321751147.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1397069 >I will accept my role as your art dominus

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 10 10:49:21 2013 No.1397113 File: 68 KB, 630x370, 1361126973714.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >this thread >art dominus >jane so, is this gonna continue?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 10 11:05:21 2013 No.1397121 He's a pretty good writer. You guys have to start tripfagging immediately or it's going to be a mess.

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>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 10 17:54:21 2013 No.1397354 Bah, seems I got my popcorn out for nothing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 10 19:32:21 2013 No.1397409 ART DOMINUS, GET THINE SWEET BOTTOCKS IN HERE THAT WE MAY WATCH THIS SPECTACLE UNFOLD.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 10 19:42:21 2013 No.1397418 >>1397121 I'm suspicious. I don't think that art dominus guy was real.

>>	Jane !!lnrLUupipRO Sun Mar 10 19:44:21 2013 No.1397421 >>1397418 Perhaps it is the sad truth.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 10 19:55:21 2013 No.1397429 Request archiving at chanarchive, three more to go. Most interesting development on /ic/ for weeks.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 10 19:56:21 2013 No.1397431 >>1397409 Take cock from fucking mouth and speak clearly.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 10 20:15:21 2013 No.1397450 >>1397429 2 more.

My name is Captain Batman !!adU8zxGv9/w Mon Mar 11 07:26:21 2013 No.1397905
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>>1396935
Jane, I agree to all of your conditions.

>>1396937
I am Jane's true art dominus.
Despite the fact that this one rushed to give you a name before I did, your current name will suffice.

However, if you prefer to have a male name, I give you the liberty of changing it to a similar male equivalent before your next post. Afterwards your name will be regarded as permanent.

This agreement means that I will direct your artistic training for an unspecified time with full certainty in your obedience, and you will not question my will or my credibility; my artistic prowess is irrelevant, it is my theoretical understanding of art that should concern you most.
Everything you needed to know before signing up has been outlined in my very first post.

Our contract will end in one of these ways:
>I've learned all I can from this.
>The contract is breached.
>You've surpassed me.

Without any further ado, let us carry on in this thread.

Jane, or whatever your name will be...
Show me what you can make (every corner of your ability).
And tell me your goals, or show me them via your favorite artwork.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 11 07:31:21 2013 No.1397909 >>1397905 So the contract still exists even if one of you - or you both - die

>>	Captain Batman !!adU8zxGv9/w Mon Mar 11 07:34:21 2013 No.1397912 >>1397909 I thought to mention that, but if one of us died, it would be the equivalent of sudden inactivity, which would inevitably lead to either Jane not following my instructions, or me simply not giving any more instructions.

Jayne !!Aqrn6uBwbz6 Mon Mar 11 15:32:21 2013 No.1398213
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>>1397912
Same trip, minor variation to avoid gender identification.

Hello Captain, I am pleased that my patience has been rewarded.

A collage of stuff I have done (pic related). I am quite aware of the flaws, but if you or anyone else would like to point them out I am all ears. I haven't drawn more than doodles in a while.

My goals are to be a proficient draughtsman, able to conceive of an idea and take it from that conception to a finished product. I want to understand light. I want to be able to manipulate shapes IN MY MIND and understand how to translate what I see from observation and in my imagination into a two dimensional image. To this end I have done mostly master studies and bit of anatomy studies. At the very end of this I would be interested in learning color theory but I feel there is enough on my plate already.

I will post later with a collage of pictures that I find intriguing, inspiring or at a level of skill I would be interested in achieving.

>>	Jane !!lnrLUupipRO Mon Mar 11 15:33:21 2013 No.1398215 >>1398213 And I'm a newtripfag so I am unaware as to how they work, original name and trip to confirm.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 11 16:12:21 2013 No.1398261 This is the thread /ic/ deserves.

Anonymous Mon Mar 11 20:07:21 2013 No.1398466
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>>1397905

A quick collage of images (pic related) I find interesting, inspirational and close to the level I hope to someday in the distant future achieve. I greatly enjoy the classical styles of the old masters, as well as the more contemporary styles of Frazetta and Moebius. I hope to eventually develop my own sensibilities, but I expect that will come with time as I develop my skills.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 11 20:15:21 2013 No.1398475 I want an art dominus.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 11 20:25:21 2013 No.1398490 I- I also want an art dominus.... preferably female but hey, beggars can't be chooser amirite

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 11 20:37:21 2013 No.1398505 >>1398475 >>1398490 I just want an art friend to do studies with.. ;_;

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 11 20:59:21 2013 No.1398538 >>1398505 I'll be your art friend, anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 11 21:02:21 2013 No.1398541 >>1398505 >>1398538 C-Can we be art friends?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 11 21:06:21 2013 No.1398544 >>1398475 >>1398490 >>1398505 >>1398538 >>1398541 >>1398541 you all realize that we would have to start trippin and if we start trippin, they'll all start trippin, it will be anarchy. but yeah learning with an art buddy would be cool

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 11 21:10:21 2013 No.1398548 >artists >friends yeah this will end well.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 11 21:11:21 2013 No.1398549 >>1398548 Stop being pessimistic anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 11 21:13:21 2013 No.1398553 >>1398544 I'll make a da group, because I don't want a bunch of people to start tripfagging. What should it be named?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 11 21:28:21 2013 No.1398567 >>1398553 ic-art-dominus (or whatever the plural form is) or something?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 11 21:29:21 2013 No.1398572 >>1398557 I was thinking something a bit more close-knit, but if nobody in interested then meh.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 11 21:31:21 2013 No.1398575 http://unmotivatedlosers.deviantart.com/ Here, it's a start.

Anonymous Mon Mar 11 21:45:21 2013 No.1398580

>>1398544
I fail to see why everyone needs to trip. You can follow along without tripping. Believe it or not, many people can tell the difference between two different artists when they post their work. Especially if you anons are honest about it being YOUR work.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 11 21:53:21 2013 No.1398586 >>1398505 here I was actually thinking of like, email or (at most) Skype...

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 11 22:19:21 2013 No.1398605 >>1398586 Well there was that ic group in skype I'm in... but it's too crowded sometimes.

Anonymous Mon Mar 11 22:43:21 2013 No.1398625
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>I like teaching, but I'm neither officially a teacher, nor do I fully know what must be done to train you to be the perfect artist, or am I a master of art by any stretch; but you seem like a dependent, spineless type. We may benefit from each other.
Pft, what a joke, this is such-

>If you submit yourself to me, I will accept my role as your art dominus.
MY DIIIIIIICK

S-stupid sexy anon...

Anonymous Mon Mar 11 22:47:21 2013 No.1398629
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>>1396384

>Anons take this guy's mentoring if you really enjoy being belittled, insulted, objectified, threatend and if you like fits of rage, manipulation and stalking :).

Please anon, you don't even know what you're doing to me...

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 11 23:02:21 2013 No.1398641 >>1398549 nope artists are petty and need to be alone to work properly. just look at this board.

Anonymous Tue Mar 12 01:47:21 2013 No.1398723
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>>1398641
Apparently you've never had an artist friend. Artists tend to be drawn to one another and use each other as motivation, inspiration, so helping each other out is not far off. Look at this board, for all the bullshit and douchebaggery it gives, it still tries to help others when they can. It's not mere pettiness. There's a reason why artists are competitive. But that doesn't mean that they are not capable to be friends.

Don't push your silly values on others anon.

Anonymous Tue Mar 12 02:30:21 2013 No.1398736

>>1398723
This.

That right there is part of why people going to art classes/groups/sessions get better faster than when they were alone. It's part teaching, but mostly to do with having those other artists around you. You walk in and are motivated to draw because everyone else is doing it. Maybe you're inspired by someone else's work. Maybe you see someone doing something awesome and ask them about it, critique each other, etc.

It's pretty awesome.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 12 12:09:21 2013 No.1398932 >>1398490 >>1398505 Same here. Lack of orientation may be my death...

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 12 12:18:21 2013 No.1398934 File: 12 KB, 452x279, sorry.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1398575 :-(

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 12 13:16:21 2013 No.1398954 >>1398934 >http://unmotivatedlosers.deviantart.com/ Oops, sorry! It should work now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 12 14:56:21 2013 No.1399014 I have like, no chance of making artist friends in real life or anything, can someone drop me their Skype and be my art buddy? I joined the group, and I don't have my tablet on me til Saturday, but this is a good opportunity I think.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 12 15:20:21 2013 No.1399024 >>1399014 You can always hit up Kabir Shah http://sketchypages.deviantart.com/ He's got a nice Skype sketchgroup going and always welcomes aspiring artists.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 12 15:56:21 2013 No.1399047 >>1399024 I checked out some of his tutorials and didn't really like his construction/gesture videos, they were kind of weird. Still sent him a message inquiring about the Skype group though.

>>	Jayne !!lnrLUupipRO Tue Mar 12 18:32:21 2013 No.1399164 >Show me what you can make (every corner of your ability). >And tell me your goals, or show me them via your favorite artwork >>1398213 >>1398466 Captain Batman, have I failed to fulfill the first task in some way?

>>	Captain Batman !!adU8zxGv9/w Wed Mar 13 02:23:21 2013 No.1399533 >>1399164 Nay, my Jayne. I am preparing your first lesson.

Geometry Captain Batman !!adU8zxGv9/w Wed Mar 13 14:59:21 2013 No.1400044
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My Jayne,

It is Geometry upon which all of Art is based.
You must foster your appreciation for geometry, for without understanding in geometry there is none in perspective, and without which there is none in form, and without which there is none in light and motion, and without which there is none in texture and element.

>"Let no one destitute of Geometry enter my doors." - Plato

Embrace Geometry as a means of mastering The Art.
There is no doubt that logical thinking is the basis for The Artist's technical prowess, and most if not all wise practices require that you heed the eminence of Geometry, often without them recognizing it as such.

If a Mathematician does not appreciate Geometry, he is no Mathematician.
Likewise, if a Musician does not appreciate geometry, he is no Musician.
Thus, if a commoner (who thinks himself to be an Artist) dismisses the eminence of Geometry, he is no Artist.

Read:
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geometry
>http://www.telegram.com/article/20090111/NEWS/901110471/1110\
>http://www.highhopes.com/numberandgeometry.html

Then read all of the entries in this website:
>http://www.dartmouth.edu/~matc/math5.geometry/unit1/INTRO.html
>For most of these long (but shortened) history lessons, there are "projects" to do at the end.
>Do every project that only requires drawing or calculating (asbtract work); something you can easily demonstrate to me with text or diagram.
>You may use third party uploading services (image albums, text pastes) instead of the 4chan interface to show me your work.

It is geometry upon which all of life is based.
Understand this, and you will strengthen your spirit.
You have until March 21st to turn in your studies to me.

Captain

P.S.
>From now on, you will open your posts with "My Captain,".
>You will always address me as such.
>As well, you will close your posts with "Jayne". Follow in my example.

>>	Jayne !!lnrLUupipRO Wed Mar 13 15:11:21 2013 No.1400060 File: 296 KB, 792x744, Geometry.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] My Captain- >Here I go Jayne

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 13 15:16:21 2013 No.1400066 File: 2.16 MB, 1318x908, 001 (2).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] You're right, geometry is very important. But it still doesn't explain why my swastika is poorly drawn.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 13 15:38:21 2013 No.1400093 >>1400044 I fail to see how geometry is important to a musician, being a musician myself.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 13 16:08:21 2013 No.1400118 >>1400093 If he takes geometry in a very broad sense and have it includes the notions of ratios and intervals and groups, then it's really important.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 13 21:31:21 2013 No.1400389 >>1400093 Godel Escher Bach, the Eternal Golden Braid

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 13 21:43:21 2013 No.1400402 there's no magical pill, get your lazy ass to work

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 14 00:21:21 2013 No.1400507 >>1398934 I-i might join.....tomorrow maybe

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 15 02:54:21 2013 No.1401505 File: 21 KB, 180x180, Pentagon.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1400044 This stuff is pretty heavy.

Anonymous Fri Mar 15 03:12:21 2013 No.1401523

>>1400044
>http://www.telegram.com/article/20090111/NEWS/901110471/1110\
>She created the “Gyroscoped Egg” three years later as a kind of inverse reflection of “The Egg.” Each vertex of the first structure is changed into a face, and each face turned into a vertex. Each opening is replaced by a three-dimensional variation of the same shape. In mathematical terms, it is known as a dual.

Captain Batman, that is the most insane thing ive ever read.... IF ONLY I WERE TO HANDLE THIS EGG upon the flesh of my hands i would be enamored in all life's glory at such marvel.

further more, your post has inspired me to study into geometry, i have never looked at this art in the form you portray it in and as such i have taken it upon myself to study this!

so thank you...

Yours faithfully,

the underrated student that never could

Captain Batman !!adU8zxGv9/w Fri Mar 15 16:27:21 2013 No.1401903
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My Jayne,
If this thread expires early, expect a new thread from me.

I look forward to your work.

>>1401523

Glad to hear this, Anon.
Godspeed and stay fascinated.

Captain

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 15 16:52:21 2013 No.1401917 hey, I need an art buddy. my DA is account is massytree, friend me or something I'd love to work with some one, and get my own art dominus.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 15 18:12:21 2013 No.1401978 >>1400507 Please do, we're still looking for more art friends!

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 15 18:21:21 2013 No.1401990 File: 727 KB, 866x866, mike2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1401505 I misread that as "pentagram". And here I was ready to get my Wiccan on.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 15 18:53:21 2013 No.1402014 >>1401917 Don't know but anyone else, but I'd really like to see somebody's artwork before befriending them. Need to see their skill level, etc.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 15 19:53:21 2013 No.1402063 >>1398575 >http://unmotivatedlosers.deviantart.com/ More people joining the teams pls?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 15 19:57:21 2013 No.1402067 >>1402063 I just sent a request

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 15 20:01:21 2013 No.1402074 >>1402063 >>1402067 btw you guys have an irc or something where we can communicate

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 15 20:05:21 2013 No.1402076 >>1402074 Sure, I don't know how to make (or use...) irc, but one of our members would like to create one that would be amazing!

Anonymous Fri Mar 15 20:08:21 2013 No.1402078

>>1402063
For members to be placed into a team I asked that they have an avatar and post "loomis" in the comment section of the only journal entry, since membership is auto-accept at the moment.

There are 15 members, but only 5 are in teams right now. I'm sure it'll work out, though!

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 15 20:19:21 2013 No.1402084 >>1402078 just loomis'd put my in a team

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 15 20:55:21 2013 No.1402116 >>1402084 Done, welcome to the group.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 15 21:23:21 2013 No.1402143 >>1400093 you're no musician

>>	LP Fri Mar 15 21:28:21 2013 No.1402149 >>1402116 Loomis'd up

Jayne !!lnrLUupipRO Fri Mar 15 22:18:21 2013 No.1402174
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My Captain
>>1401903
I too was planning on making a fresh thread should this one die. Good to establish this ahead of time. I have read all you asked and am currently going back through it to do the projects that have been listed. I should have it all finished within the next few days.

Jayne

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 15 22:41:21 2013 No.1402198 >>1402116 Loomis mo'fo

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 15 23:14:21 2013 No.1402223 File: 110 KB, 347x345, md24hs8mRS1rkzh25o1_500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >mfw Im the OP >mfw Im glad some artists are getting some benefit from it

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 15 23:38:21 2013 No.1402239 File: 238 KB, 768x576, coop_thumbs.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1402223

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 00:32:21 2013 No.1402257 File: 417 KB, 823x557, thumbsup.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1402223 >>1402239

>>	Captain Batman !!adU8zxGv9/w Sat Mar 16 00:34:21 2013 No.1402258 File: 25 KB, 500x542, CBJPG4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1402174 My Jayne, Good. See that you are taking the lessons in deeply. Captain

>>	Berji !mfr4UvZboo Sat Mar 16 02:24:21 2013 No.1402314 >>1402258 >>1402174 This thread is goddam adorable.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 04:13:21 2013 No.1402360 just spent damn near an hour working out this golden ratio shit.. hope they follow thru.. maybe with something discussing the relevance of all this. otherwise i just made myself feel like the smartest dumbass in the world for nothin

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 16 05:00:21 2013 No.1402370 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpKJUa6IoBs&NR=1&feature=endscreen

Jayne !!lnrLUupipRO Sun Mar 17 03:44:21 2013 No.1403126
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My Captain

The work you have assigned is sorcerous alchemy to be sure! (Pic related)
Counter Clockwise from Top Left: Finding Phi, Star of Cheops (before cutting and folding), Pentagon using Golden Triangles, Pentagon Using Euclid's Method, Pentagon using Durher's Method, Golden Triangle using Euclid's method.

I have not done any of the folding exercises, or the tiling exercises and will be doing them tomorrow along with the rest of the drawings (pavement, perspective).

A few of the projects require materials or books I do not currently have access too. Specifically the following projects are causing issues:

The Medieval Method for Constructing a Pentagon (I have been unable to find this method and do not have access to the books referenced)
Brunelleschi's Peep show
Camera Obscura
Perspective Machine

For the last two I do not currently have access to the materials needed. The Peep show reproduction I have problems with conceiving of a way to show it with photos and no idea how to go about recreating it in a believable fashion.

Please advise if I am doing anything wrong so far. I will return tomorrow

Jayne

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 03:50:21 2013 No.1403130 >>1403126 I am dyslexic... clockwise from top left.

Captain Batman !!adU8zxGv9/w Sun Mar 17 16:54:21 2013 No.1403607
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My Jayne,

Good work.

I do hope you are becoming very fascinated by the balance of these abstractions of math and imagery. If not already, then soon you will see the world with enhanced understanding due to these very studies.

Let the out-of-reach books be dismissed. Proceed with the folding and tiling; mastering geometric folding is the mark of excellence, as demonstrated by the origami article.

Once you've finished these, and I've approved of them, I will advance you from geometry for now, and connect things to perspective study.

With that said, let me be clear about something, My Jayne.

Understand that our relationship is impossible without mutual trust; you trust in my wisdom, and I trust in your curiosity and passion.

It is expected of you to meet my demands, yes, but it is also expected that you strive for an inside-out understanding of the entire world at large, starting with my art lessons.

You cannot become any more than a puppet of education if you do not wire yourself to question everything. Wait for an alleged truth to be approved by your judgment before accepting it as truth, even if it's considered axiomatic.
This is the Art of Heroism.

Never enslave yourself to one who will not teach you to become free of needing a Dominus.
I will see that you emerge from the coming months or years taking flight on your own, no longer needing residence under my broad wing.
You must meditate on this.

Captain

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 17 21:04:21 2013 No.1403800 File: 96 KB, 500x506, i-see-what-you-did-there-261.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1398261 >captain batman and jayne >the thread /ic/ deserves

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 18 07:28:21 2013 No.1404051 >>1403800 Let's archive?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 18 14:28:21 2013 No.1404211 >>1404051 I believe it's already been done.

Jayne !!lnrLUupipRO Mon Mar 18 23:41:21 2013 No.1404640
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My Captain,

I'm spending a large amount of time folding and folding and playing around with these tiles. It is quite interesting. Because of this there is some delay, for which I apologize. The folding in particular I'm trying to get done properly and in a way that is appealing. The rest of my work shall be posted shortly, in the meantime I offer this emblem.

Jayne

Captain Batman !!adU8zxGv9/w Tue Mar 19 09:40:21 2013 No.1404829
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>Captain_Penrose
>mfw

My Jayne,

You may carry on as you are.

The sooner the better, but don't compromise the quality of your training for speed if there is enough time to indulge in the experience. If you can give me better, give me better.

>March 21st

I look forward to your update.

Captain

Jayne !!lnrLUupipRO Wed Mar 20 07:35:21 2013 No.1405436
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My Captain

I had hoped you would find that amusing, may those who need you shine it upon this board.

Here is the rest of my work (pic related). From top row: Polygons formed by connecting vertices on a 4x4 grid set in a circle, The Sacred Cut Octagon, Polyhedra, 5 pointed Star, Perspective Line Studies. Bottom Left, the beginnings of a penrose pattern, far right, pavement construction before and after learning the method (vanishing point off to the right).

The delay was wholly due to the folding, the incessant folding. It was a lesson in dexterity, humility and perseverance. I have folded so many shapes, and so many have failed. The ones that are pictured are the ones that are halfway decent. I have decided I'm going to learn how to properly fold more platonic and archimedean solids, but I will need a book to do so it seems so the search is on. With luck I will have new shapes to show in the future.

Side benefits I encountered-

I now have a nice variety of shapes to use for still life studies, once I fold some more polyhedrons and solids I should have even more interesting bits.

Trying to find the perspective lines in paintings has given me an entirely new way to look at them. I was familiar with the absolute basics of perspective (there is a vanishing point in most realistic renderings) but that's it. Trying to find that point and seeing the lines leading to it is a exercise that has proven quite useful. I generally assumed perspective would take care of itself with simple observation, but it seems that treating it much like the construction of various geometric shapes would be a good thing. At the very least it provides guidelines that will show you when you are "off".

Jayne

Captain Batman !!adU8zxGv9/w Thu Mar 21 17:10:21 2013 No.1406471
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My Jayne,

Congratulations on completing the first assignment.
I hereby reward you with a break until March 23rd.

In the meantime, do this to strengthen your spirit:

Spend 30 minutes tomorrow drawing absolutely anything, no matter how nonsensical or ugly.
Draw whatever lines or brushstrokes come to mind, traditional or digital.
Your intention will be to let your creativity breathe without judgment.

If you are inspired by geometry, you may draw shapes (as you may do of anything you've just recently been studying), but do it in a state of mental movement, never remaining in the same state for long.

This is the Art of Honing Emotion & Creativity.

On March 23rd I will return with your new task.

Captain

Isometric Perspective Captain Batman !!adU8zxGv9/w Sat Mar 23 17:29:21 2013 No.1407733
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My Jayne,

Your next task is both in perspective and self-learning.

Attempt to reveal as much as possible about isometric perspective without having read about it. Use your geometric logic to derive a bootleg understanding of this form of perspective. Once you feel you've hit a dead end and would benefit greatly just from seeing a little diagram or googling a little fact about isometric perspective, look it up then.

Demonstrate a grasp over it by drawing your very own isometric grid.
Then draw boxes and cylinders in various combinations that interest you.
Then start drawing organic shapes that you cannot immediately solve using the basic grid.
See what techniques you can invent (based on your grid, and your sense for geometric accuracy) to break down the otherwise arbitrary shape into something solved, not simply eyeballed or guessed. This means using the isometric grid as a foundation on which to create fine, logical graphing for the arbitrary.

>To think of interestingly challenging organic shapes, simply find something that looks "hard enough" to do. It will probably be too hard when you try it for real, and you will find something slightly simpler to start with before advancing upwards. This is acceptable.

For the last activity, I anticipate drawings with a great too many lines of measurement and proportion for otherwise trivial curves that would perhaps be very easy to eyeball in the first place.
The reason for this seemingly inefficient method is for proof of concept, and a grasp of accuracy for when it's going to matter.
This is the routine of The Draughtsman.

Report back to me with how far you've gotten by March 26.
If my instructions are unclear, ask for clarification.

Captain

>PS - Has My Slave done 30 minutes of free-drawing yesterday?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 24 02:28:21 2013 No.1408079 the fuck?

Jayne !!lnrLUupipRO Tue Mar 26 04:48:21 2013 No.1409756
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My Captain,

>>1407733
I have not had access to a computer as of late, however I am confident that I will be able to devote several hours to the next exercise tomorrow.

Here are my doodles, the bottom right is all of them stacked on top of each other.

-Jayne

>>	Noko Anonymous Tue Mar 26 09:33:21 2013 No.1409843 File: 52 KB, 296x400, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1402257

>>	Noko Anonymous Tue Mar 26 09:36:21 2013 No.1409847 File: 50 KB, 640x360, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1409843

Captain Batman !!adU8zxGv9/w Tue Mar 26 15:10:21 2013 No.1410051
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My Jayne,
>>1409756

I see you're still ticking.
Time has been as well.
>Report back to me with how far you've gotten by March 26.
It's the 26th, as it happens.

And going against my orders and deciding to pass work in tomorrow (instead of the deadline I gave you) does not show respect for my authority.

Nevertheless, the purpose of this exercise is to see what you can do with time to yourself.
I want you to do this for 2 days at least.
You have until March 28th (noon, Minsk time) to investigate isometric perspective.

For now, let me remind you that honesty is the path to long term success with your Dominus.
What happened, My Jayne?

Captain

Jayne !!lnrLUupipRO Tue Mar 26 15:16:21 2013 No.1410057

My Captain

>>1410051
Aha you are correct sir, the interesting thing about time is I live at the ass end of the world, when I posted my work it wasn't the 26th yet where I was. I was not attempting to ignore your assignment. I apologize for that oversight and shall use the board time stamps for all future measurements. My current progress on the isometric assignment is: I'm starting it now.

Jayne

Captain Batman !!adU8zxGv9/w Tue Mar 26 15:50:21 2013 No.1410072

My Jayne,
>>1410057
I wasn't aware 4chan had a standard timezone.
Now that I've confirmed the fact using Google, I am changing the deadline of your assignment to:
>03/28/13(Fri)12:00 4chan standard

You still haven't explained the absence in enough detail.

Captain

>>	Captain Batman !!adU8zxGv9/w Tue Mar 26 15:52:21 2013 No.1410073 >PS >03/28/13(Thurs*)12:00 4chan standard

Anonymous Tue Mar 26 16:24:21 2013 No.1410095
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>>1410051
>And going against my orders and deciding to pass work in tomorrow (instead of the deadline I gave you) does not show respect for my authority.

Such insolence ought to be punished, wouldn't you agree?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 26 17:04:21 2013 No.1410120 >>1410095 yea seems the chain of command is already collapsing...

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 26 17:19:21 2013 No.1410128 the captain gets me hot

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 26 17:26:21 2013 No.1410135 File: 60 KB, 728x1111, 1338139881569.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Oh my god... guys... brainwave... r34 challenge of the Captain and Mr Jayne. It's art related!

Jayne !!lnrLUupipRO Tue Mar 26 18:03:21 2013 No.1410156
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My Captain,
>>1410072
My absence was due to spring break and not being anywhere near a computer. While I admit that such an excuse is weak and flimsy it is the truth.

Here is a drawing before looking up isometric perspective (pic related) using just what I know from the previous assignment and my own knowledge. I am about to start looking up what isometric means exactly and going from there. Some strange things were discovered that I suppose I already knew inherently but was able to prove(?) by doing this drawing. Specifically parallel lines and how strangely they behave when observed at certain angles.

Jayne

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 27 01:23:21 2013 No.1410435 File: 317 KB, 1764x882, ISO.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm just gonna leave this here

Captain Batman !!adU8zxGv9/w Thu Mar 28 00:30:21 2013 No.1410961
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>>1410435
Hail to you, hero.
We would have all been lost without this information you have given us.

My Jayne,
>>1410156
Thank you for telling me the truth. However, you should have told me beforehand, as spring break can be foreseen, or you could even have found a moment during the holiday to write me.

My Jayne, you know there must be consequences.
But since it's your first slip, I'm going to be gentle.

>Dexterity Drill
Firstly, position your arm so that your elbow and shoulder are free.
If you rest your wrist against the drawing surface, you do it with little weight.
Keep your elbow and shoulder turning in harmony to create a gliding movement, with a strong wrist.
Move your wrist with the utmost subtlety and minimalism, if at all.
Such is the manner of a graceful, controlled, and healthy Artist's hand.

What you will do:
>Use a ruler or line tool to draw 8 lines like the related picture; make them as large as your screen or paper can fit.
>Use it as a template for freehand tracing in the difficult manner.
>Do not rotate the canvas or page, lest you defeat the purpose of the template.
>Trace over each line in the template once over (I suggest rotating like a clock).
>Attempt for steady perfection with each infuriatingly imperfect stroke.
>Complete the cycle 16 times.

Due 24 hours as of this writing.

Captain

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 01:51:21 2013 No.1410995 >>1410961 This exercise is hurtful, but utile.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 03:21:21 2013 No.1411041 This thread is like /ic/'s version of fifty shades of grey, but with less "inner goddesses" and more hot art dominus action. 10/10 you two

Anonymous Thu Mar 28 05:03:21 2013 No.1411087
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My Captain
>>1410072
It's the 28th (4chan standard time)

Here's what I have so far, I drew my own isometric plane and attempted to put shapes onto it. This does not appear to be a large amount of work but it took me over 90 minutes to get these shapes down. Thinking in a manner that is conducive to the grid is challenging, however after a few failures I'm starting to see where a knowledge of geometry would prove quite helpful.

I feel that I can probably get a variety of geometric shapes down at this point. However organic forms are another matter and my attempts at them have not gone well. I will continue to work with it though as this is a new tool and I have yet to figure out all it's workings.

After hand drawing this grid I also searched out isometric grid paper, may I use this in the future or would you prefer that I continue to make my own?

Also in response to >>1410961
Aye aye Captain!

Jayne

>>	Jayne !!lnrLUupipRO Thu Mar 28 05:07:21 2013 No.1411088 File: 11 KB, 400x230, jayne.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1411087 I can affirm that the above post is indeed me.... I can be forgetful sometimes. I shall repost if desired.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 05:15:21 2013 No.1411090 How about you read "GROW UP AND STOP BEING A PUSSY 2.0" No but seriously dude Motivation is a mindset you can choose to be motivated or not just like how you can choose basically how you feel about something. YOU NEED JESUS MAN.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 05:23:21 2013 No.1411097 File: 28 KB, 560x375, haha.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1411090 >hasn't read the thread

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 08:49:21 2013 No.1411124 omg this thread, this actually is helping me >>1411090 lel

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 08:52:21 2013 No.1411125 File: 102 KB, 565x600, directional hatching.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1411090 Anon don't be like that

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 11:19:21 2013 No.1411174 File: 79 KB, 600x589, 1346555266492.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I could use an art dominus or an art friend. Any of you inbreds care to hop in for the ride that never ends?

>>	Captain Batman !!adU8zxGv9/w Thu Mar 28 11:25:21 2013 No.1411176 My Jayne, >>1411088 That wont be necessary. You have less than an hour left to hand in your research; make haste. Captain

>>	All is mind in mind. Thu Mar 28 13:02:21 2013 No.1411234 File: 49 KB, 500x412, tumblr_m2gbwlfX8x1r6dkcfo1_500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1411174 Will we roleplay the whole time too?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 13:15:21 2013 No.1411240 File: 241 KB, 751x1024, 1358824482556.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1411174 >>1411174 we should become artfriends we shall

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 13:18:21 2013 No.1411244 Get confidence, IDC how you get it find a way anything that will get you up and motivated looking at the day on a positive note. Trust in God dude and remember that EVERYTHING happens for a reason. Find your gift (everyone has one) and utilize it.

Captain Batman !!adU8zxGv9/w Thu Mar 28 15:44:21 2013 No.1411341
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My Jayne,
>>1411087
My mistake; good work.

I am pleased that you've accomplished this with little to no internet research.

Since you've demonstrated that you understand the grid and the angles involved in making it from scratch, you may enjoy the luxury of a pre-made grid. They come in some variety of angles, so use the default 30 degree kind.

I will return later with the next step.

Captain

Jayne !!lnrLUupipRO Thu Mar 28 15:54:21 2013 No.1411350
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My Captain

I perhaps did this incorrectly and seek guidance. I made one template and free handed over the lines many times (pic related). However I used a single sheet. Should I have made a template 16 times and done one round of freehand lines on each template?

I see now that going slow is not the way to do this assignment. I also have a better understanding of "drawing with confidence" you can't feel your way around and try to slowly follow the line, it makes things worse..... Broad sweeping motions seem to work best. I have noticed that some lines I can control and get better form going in one particular direction vs the other.

Jayne

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 15:57:21 2013 No.1411354 File: 2.77 MB, 350x197, 1363240676305.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] My Jayne, You are ready to begin drawing butts. Captain

>>	Op Thu Mar 28 15:59:21 2013 No.1411355 File: 110 KB, 689x689, 1364397561098.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1411354

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 16:00:21 2013 No.1411356 >>1411355 not op sorry

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 16:05:21 2013 No.1411363 >>1411354 i lol'd

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 16:43:21 2013 No.1411397 >>1411234 Roleplaying is absolutely required.

Captain Batman !!adU8zxGv9/w Thu Mar 28 18:26:21 2013 No.1411485

My Jayne,
>>1411350
Using multiple lines for non-digital is acceptable, but 16 at a time is too messy to work with.
Change to a new template when it's hard to follow the guide line.

As for what you've learned, good. You've noticed that some angles are easier, given your arm's mechanics. When in practical drawing, incline yourself towards drawing at those angles to best utilize your arm. When in practice like this, attempt to be as smooth and accurate as possible even with your impossible angles.

As for broad sweeping motions, yes. However, do not draw too fast to be thinking while you do. This is an exercise for control of line, not speed/smoothness of line. You want to be conscious through every part of the pencilstroke. This technique is counterintuitive during practical drawing. But it is indirectly beneficial.

If you draw very fast, you will get a reasonably smooth and straight line, and there's a chance it will be pretty accurate, but this is not total control, nor a demonstration of dexterity.

Draw neither with timidity nor aggression; draw with confidence.

Do the lines once more, this time with proper lines to trace over. Do one line at a time, but do 8 cycles.
Repeat on a new sheet.

Also do this:
>Draw a couple dozen circles, big and small, on an empty sheet of paper.
>Make your broad sweeping circles and little circles using the same still-wrist technique.
>It's more interesting if you follow a systematic way to size and position the circles on after the other.
>For bonus redemption, incorporate straight lines into the circles to create interesting 2D geometry.

All due in 24 hours.
I will give you the next study in return.

>>1411354
All good things to those who wait, Anon.

Captain

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 28 19:02:21 2013 No.1411503 https://www.coursera.org/courses?cats=arts you can suck my penis later OH and you get a certification from the professor when you complete the course

Jayne !!lnrLUupipRO Fri Mar 29 17:23:21 2013 No.1412177
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My Captain,

>>1411485
Circles (that shit was hard!) and Freehand line (pic related)

On a side note I will be unable to draw for approximately the next 30 hours (work for 12hrs, sleep, work another 12hrs)

Jayne

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 29 18:51:21 2013 No.1412247 File: 424 KB, 1324x1520, img680.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1411485 Can you give any tips to someone who's studying geometry? This is a "transparent" view of an icosahedron i made.

Captain Batman !!adU8zxGv9/w Sat Mar 30 14:21:21 2013 No.1412848

My Jayne,
>>1412177
I see you've explained your circumstances in advance; that's more like it. You have my approval.

>>1412247
Yes I can.

Learn to the relate numbers, equations, etc. to the shapes and proportions and angles you see. Overtime, mathematics will become more meaningful to you, and leak into how you understand beauty, hence it will change your view of life.

Captain

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 30 14:31:21 2013 No.1412852 >>1396319 /IC/ WE MUST ARCHIVE THIS HOW DO WE DO THAT

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 30 15:39:21 2013 No.1412883 >>1412852 It's already been archived, but I'm not sure if the archived version has all the posts up to the end.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 20:56:21 2013 No.1413884 Bump so the win doesn't die!

>>	DURRtle !!SUDJMflPZTZ Sun Mar 31 21:09:21 2013 No.1413893 >>1413884 im bumpin so hard

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 23:15:21 2013 No.1413978 >>1412848 I would love to talk to you privately, actually. I'm an artist, looking for help but too private to share artwork on here...would you consider skype?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 23:19:21 2013 No.1413983 >>1413978 > I'm an artist, looking for help but too much of a beta pussy to share artwork on an anonymous forum FIFY

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 31 23:25:21 2013 No.1413986 >>1413983 Fify

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 00:59:21 2013 No.1414020 >>1413978 animu?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 1 01:53:21 2013 No.1414034 bump bump bump

>>	Captain Batman !!adU8zxGv9/w Mon Apr 1 23:59:21 2013 No.1414656 File: 3 KB, 238x212, CBJPG2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] My Jayne, Your next task is to write a 10,000 word essay of the geometric applications used in The Mona Lisa in 30 hours. Captain

Jayne !!lnrLUupipRO Tue Apr 2 00:16:21 2013 No.1414662
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My Captain,
>>1414656
I was awaiting my next assignment and drawing isometrically to hone my skills.

>10,ooo words.

It shall be done my captain.

I shall begin shortly and it shall be a glorious monument. I cannot claim that I will finish such a project within the prescribed period of time but I shall endeavor to fulfill your wishes as an apprentice and unmotivated loser should. Incoming photos of recent isometric drawings once my battery finishes charging.

Jayne

>>	Captain Batman !!adU8zxGv9/w Tue Apr 2 00:39:21 2013 No.1414670 My Jayne, >>1414662 You make a fine student. >04/01/13(Mon)23:59 Don't worry about the essay. I'm about to tend to my daily duties now; I will return today with your true assignment. Check back by 05:00. Captain

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 01:11:21 2013 No.1414692 >>1414670 I had my suspicions, but one does not question the Master.

Jayne !!lnrLUupipRO Tue Apr 2 06:22:21 2013 No.1414803
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Another isometric drawing (pic related), a few things went wrong with this one. Despite that, I was able to play around with a few concepts I developed, with some degree of success.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 2 22:09:21 2013 No.1415375 File: 75 KB, 701x600, 1362686792629.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw no art dominus

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 3 00:19:21 2013 No.1415483 >>1415375 I am sure that the good Captain is somewhere he is needed. Be patient anon I refuse to believe we have been abandoned

Isometric Perspective (continued) Captain Batman !!adU8zxGv9/w Wed Apr 3 00:30:21 2013 No.1415485
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My Jayne,

Unfortunately, I couldn't send this post yesterday due my internet connection going awry.

Onto the lesson: we're going to fix your troubles of drawing organic forms in the isometric view. Observe CBPNG.

>Crossed Corners
Determines the center.

>Quartered Corners
If you take a perfect circle and fit it into a perfect square and quarter the shape like CBPNG, then you'll have a quarter of a circle inside a quarter of a square.

When in doubt, draw an ellipse in this way and it will be more accurate (though less sleek) than the purely eyeballed approach:

The technique is to draw the ellipse in 4 parts, and each one having two distinct ends attaching it to the other quarters. You are to concentrate on drawing the ellipse from end to end, one at a time. This way, you can draw the correct arc no matter how distorted the quarter is.

The more thorough you can be at measuring circular curves (cylinders, spheres, circles in any angle) and the basic shapes, the better you are at measuring abstract forms. This is because you can always break down an organic shape into something more graspable. And if you can at least measure the underlying forms and block them in, then you can draw the abstract features with little need for construction guide.

All this training with mathematically accurate distance judgment and so on serves the cause of training the wiring of your brain. With enough practice you will be able to, in the future, free-draw with ease what you currently can barely do with strenuous problem solving.

The art is in the beauty; the math is in the dimensions.

My Jayne, study this well. If you can recall them, draw what organic forms you failed to draw in >>1411087
Report back to me with your observations or questions, and don't hide your failed attempts from me.
We'll keep going from there.

>>1414803
It seems you're already grasping it better. Good.

>>1413978
Alas, I cannot do this anytime soon.
Follow my Jayne's lessons if you must.

Captain

Jayne !!lnrLUupipRO Thu Apr 4 20:04:21 2013 No.1417009
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My Captain,

Here is a sample of my work so far. More will follow.

I have been a little fuzzy on what you meant by organic, I took it to mean curved and complex surfaces, if this is incorrect, please correct me. I redrew the three items I attempted originally, an egg, a bird and a small computer mouse.

The crossed lines and method for quartering the circles is quite helpful. I have been attempting to extrapolate from this method a manner for drawing curves that are not derived from a perfect circle. So far I have figured out the following method which I ask you to either confirm or correct.

I mark off the end points of the curve first. Then I either draw or imagine a straight line passing between these two points. Next I mark the zenith of the curve, the point where it deviates the most from the line. Finally I attempt to draw a curve that passes through all three points in a smooth manner.

This seems to be working relatively well, though I still have issues with my line quality (see pic, all that chicken scratch, ugh). I have questions though.

Is there a specific method I should follow to start? I generally try to box out the space the object takes up, then I draw the "footprint" of the object. Then I try to imagine the same "footprint" on each side of the box and go from there. This method works but is obviously quite imprecise.

The egg specifically gave me serious issues, I am still confused by it. Eventually what I did was draw two points for the top and bottom ends. Then I drew cross cuts on portions of the box it would take up to determine center points. Then I drew a circle that connected all those center points. Next I drew curves that passed through the end points and those marks on the sides of the box to end up with the egg shape. It looks OK but still doesn't seem right in my mind.

Lastly I realize I have failed to state this explicitly,
Thank you for your continued lessons.

Jayne

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 4 20:05:21 2013 No.1417012 still awaiting 34 on the Captain and Jayne

Anonymous Thu Apr 4 22:04:21 2013 No.1417073
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>>1417012

An intimidating task, to be sure.
Allow me to take a shameless first leap and set the bar nice and low with a quickie (dohoho) doodle (ohnohedi'n't), to get the ball rolling.

Apologies to Captain and Jayne, for both the content and the quality (I will actually remove it if so desired).

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 5 00:37:21 2013 No.1417189 >>1417073 That's pretty hot. >Dat text hnnng

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 5 11:24:21 2013 No.1417475 >>1417073 Now this thread is interesting beyond limits

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 7 18:47:21 2013 No.1419140 >>1417009 the construction lines youve used for the egg are quite interesting actually. looks like the merkaba energy field. theres an egg shape field under that though so i guess it makes some sense..

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 7 19:56:21 2013 No.1419179 File: 1.20 MB, 2304x3072, Feb.2009 thru April 2010 635.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone want to be my art dominus?

Anonymous Sun Apr 7 20:33:21 2013 No.1419222

>>1396319
>unmotivated loser here.
You don't need motivation, you need structure. You need to practice and study. Don't worry about waiting for inspiration to hit, it's a waste of time. The more you practice, the more mature your skill becomes, the more refined your ideas will be. If you wait around and procrastinate too long someone else will take your place and they'll get to do all the cool shit you wish you had.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 7 20:41:21 2013 No.1419233 >>1419179 I will be your art dominus. But you wouldnt want to take over their already fantastic thread.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 7 20:44:21 2013 No.1419238 >>1419179 i will be your animu dominus

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 7 20:46:21 2013 No.1419239 I'd like a dominus....though not really in an art sort of way.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 7 21:39:21 2013 No.1419270 >>1419238 >>1419233 how do i pick just one of you??

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 7 21:48:21 2013 No.1419273 >>1419270 obviously i answered first so i am the champion you should choose.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 7 21:51:21 2013 No.1419276 >>1419270 Whoever has the fattest pig to trade for you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 7 21:53:21 2013 No.1419277 >>1419273 yeah pick him, i would just just troll you anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 7 22:00:21 2013 No.1419279 >>1419273 >>1419276 both of you want to help me improve? I need to create a portfolio eventually so as to get into a art school. but first i need to learn.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 7 22:07:21 2013 No.1419280 >>1419279 I will, yeah.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 7 22:07:21 2013 No.1419282 >>1419280 Where shall we meet? Nother thread?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 7 22:09:21 2013 No.1419285 >>1419282 Sure, go ahead and make it with some of your work. I dont know if a thread will be a longterm solution though, we might change it to email at some point.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 7 22:16:21 2013 No.1419288 >>1419285 oh god.. my 'work'...

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 7 22:19:21 2013 No.1419290 >>1419288 Yes, i want to get a feel for where you are at the moment.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 7 22:34:21 2013 No.1419305 >>1419290 thread's up.

Captain Batman !!adU8zxGv9/w Tue Apr 9 03:09:21 2013 No.1420167

My Jayne,

Pardon My silence.
I've been pondering the big picture of your curricullum, refining how I perceive the fundamentals.
Such is the life of a budding self-learner.

Your patience and allegiance to me is highly appreciated, My Jayne.
You have been very good, and I do notice this.

So that you don't feel forgotten by your Dominus, I'll give you some wisdom to keep your spirit buoyant until your next lesson.

>Quarter Technique
Your technique of marking the Zenith, connecting the dots and so on, is sufficient. Notice how if you mark the zenith and connect the dots in straight lines, there are then two places to mark Secondary zeniths. And if you mark those and connect the dots once more with straight lines, there are then four spaces to mark Tertiary zeniths, and so on. This is known as a Fractal Principle, as you can repeat this process ad infinitum. For practical use, it is best to keep to the Primary zenith, or secondary at most. Eventually you will eyeball the curve with no strain of mind.

>Line Quality
There will be much practice to come; that is all.

>Starting Method
To start you should always rely on the fundamental constants of isometric perspective; rules of logic that never bend. Here are some:

Parallel Lines: no lines converge in this perspective study. The way you view normal objects does not apply in this grid. Again, guide your eye with reason, not instinct, for now.

Direct Measurement: There is no foreshortening or warping in this perspective. Make use of plain size/length comparison.

Sphere/Circle: A perfect sphere always looks like a perfect circle. >Direct Measurement

Excellent attempt on the egg, but later I will explain how to construct it better. For now, observe the latest study that you have posted and deeply consider what I have told you as you examine it for new discoveries. I will return with a robust lesson within 72 hours time, My Jayne.

I want to know what you've observed by then.

Captain

>P.S.
Oh, Anon...

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 11 11:17:21 2013 No.1421858 bamp

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 02:29:21 2013 No.1422437 File: 20 KB, 500x302, CBJPG13.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] My Jayne, I'm concerned with your whereabouts. Respond soon so that I will post the lesson. Captain

>>	Jayne !!lnrLUupipRO Fri Apr 12 03:04:21 2013 No.1422448 File: 515 KB, 1000x586, Isometrology_3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] My Captain, >>1422437 I have a thesis that has been chewing up my time but it is no excuse. Here is another set of isometric drawings. Do what you must. ~Jayne

The Egg Captain Batman !!adU8zxGv9/w Fri Apr 12 13:53:21 2013 No.1422745
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My Jayne,

You responded quickly. My apologies for not checking the thread sooner.
Now then, let the lesson begin.

First, let me that it doesn't actually matter whether you use Isometric, Dimetric, Trimetric, or some other parallel perspective.

>Parallel Projection
The reason isometric perspective is different (from the way we see with our eyes) is not that you're working on a 30 degree or 25 degree isometric grid. The reason they're different is simply in the lack of vanishing points in all forms of Parallel Perspective. Hence, the specific angles involved in an isometric grid are not of fundamental importance, but are arbitrary.

Do not grow attached to the specific grid you are using. You are using Isometric view (which has many worthy lessons to take in), but you are doing it to build a mastery over 3D without vanishing points yet; Parallel Projection, as Wikipedia names it.

>Egg in 2D
See CBPNG.
Note how the use of center lines can be used for plain vertical measurement like I talked about 3 days ago (Direct Measurement).

>Egg in 3D
See this link first:
http://www3.ul.ie/~rynnet/keanea/images/cube&sphere_1_c.gif

Take a circle, fit it into a square in perspective, and draw it across the middle of a cube (result: green oval).
Take the longest part of the oval and use that length as a diameter to draw a circle (result: black sphere).

This is the way to fit a sphere into a cube.

Make one yourself. Then do one using a custom-made isometric grid.
I can explain three different methods of making an arbitrary grid if you don't like how you do it. Just remember that evenly spaced lines are essential for a consistent grid.

>Continued

Captain Batman !!adU8zxGv9/w Fri Apr 12 13:57:21 2013 No.1422749

Refer to CBPNG now while heeding these instructions:
>Make a 2D profile of the egg like the diagram.
>Fit the circle/oval across the middle of a cube (green) like I explained in >Egg in 3D.
>Use a centerline to vertically stretch the 2D profile into a rectangle - from the top and bottom accordingly.
>Draw out the red curves to complete the egg shape. Treat it like a distorted circle (see it as quarters).
>With the 2D Profile completely drawn in perspective (red cutout view egg, rectangle frame, etc.), you will make it a 3D form.
>Take the green oval's long side (lower-left and upper-right corners in this case) and draw the blue sphere with that diameter.
>Take a diagonal measurement of the egg like you did with the green oval; use that to draw a flat egg the way you drew a flat blue circle (as seen in black).

Take note of how:
>Completing the egg outline is practically nothing more than connecting the two egg masses you've constructed (red egg/height and blue circle/body). Remain conscious of the overall picture of the egg as you draw the final 3D outline (as seen in black).
>The egg is the same width as a flat cutout no matter the angle. The only foreshortening that occurs is of a vertical nature.
>The spherical part is not foreshortened. Such is an example of the wisdom in constructing with basic geometry in mind.
>The top and bottom points (across the middle, to be precise) of the red outlines represent the true top and bottom points of the 3D egg.
>The top and bottom points of the green oval are lesser than that of the blue circle.
>The blue circle relates in size to the green oval and axis cube.

>Continued

Captain Batman !!adU8zxGv9/w Fri Apr 12 13:59:21 2013 No.1422750

To do in 24 hours:
>Draw 2 eggs, each in one of the angles I have shown. (You do not have to color code your lines).

Now then...
You haven't followed my orders from 3 days ago.
You are to go back and do it along with today's lesson. Same deadline.

You will also do >>1412177 again, but this time use a fractal pattern (instead of your first pattern) for the circles and lines . But instead of lines, accompany the circles

with triangles. Fill the page.
The fractal can be of any simplicity.

Again, everything is due in 24 hours.
Ask questions if anything I have explained is not fully understood.
I await your work.

Captain

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 14:18:21 2013 No.1422758 God you faggots are still doing this shit? Get eachother's email and gtfo

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 16:08:21 2013 No.1422828 >>1422758 This. Why should everyone else have to watch your bizarre roll playing? Also what sort of pussy 'dominus' begins a response with >my apologies

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 12 21:28:21 2013 No.1422988 >>1422758 >>1422828 just get out

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 00:39:21 2013 No.1423051 >>1422988 >>1422988 FUCKING THIS. oh look at me. There is no reason i need to bother going into this thread and reading the whole thing only to enrage myself. But you know what? fuck it. It's the best thing in my life right now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 01:15:21 2013 No.1423071 >>1422828 >>1422758 >board about artwork and critique with the purpose of helping people out and learning to better their art. >thread that does exactly that, yet in a fun and educational way >complain about it

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 08:13:21 2013 No.1423156 >>1422828 >>1422758 you guys are fucking cockheads that's all. i think this shit is adorable.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 10:01:21 2013 No.1423184 >>1398575 >join >can't keep up with pace >become stressed and depressed because I have shit productivity >quit group fuck

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 10:06:21 2013 No.1423187 >>1423184 >pace You need ONE drawing per week to not get kicked.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 10:13:21 2013 No.1423191 >>1423187 Yes, but to succeed you need at least 5 per week, and I wouldn't allow myself to post anything that was basically a scribble(which I have seen there).

Anonymous Sat Apr 13 10:25:21 2013 No.1423198

>>1423191

No shame brother, I'm not joining because I know the pressure of needing to produce 5 images a week (and no way would I let myself get away with less than 5) that are also quality enough for me to be willing to show the internet would simply result in me bugging the fuck out and producing nothing.

Some people just work better at their own pace/standards.

...Unless you really are an unmotivated loser and wont produce anything for yourself either.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 10:30:21 2013 No.1423199 >>1423198 I produce a bit for myself, but not at the pace I wish I worked. but at the same time I wonder that if I worked at a more accelerated pace, would I get burnt out? It's just a back and forth bounce, really

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 10:51:21 2013 No.1423209 >>1398575 >http://unmotivatedlosers.deviantart.com/ interested in this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 10:57:21 2013 No.1423211 I'm motivated enough when i work on my own. Working with others is worse for me because i realize how untalented piece of shit i am in comparison.

Anonymous Sat Apr 13 11:28:21 2013 No.1423219

>>1423198
>>1423191
>>1423199

#excuses

>quality enough for me to be willing to show the internet
Make a new account and submit things to scraps. Nobody cares if it's shit, everyone's shit, you're shit too, what matters is that you draw.

>to succeed you need at least 5 per week, and I wouldn't allow myself to post anything that was basically a scribble
> I know the pressure of needing to produce 5 images a week (and no way would I let myself get away with less than 5)
Are you even ABLE to produce
ONE
non-scribble
drawing
every week?

I bet you're not. I bet you're sitting there thinking "It's better to do nothing than to try to do 5 things and fail, right? Right??? It's not like I can't do one drawing a week - of course I can! But I NEED to do 5! That's why I haven't done a single one yet!"

>>1423209
It's cool. You should apply.

Anonymous Sat Apr 13 11:42:21 2013 No.1423228

If it makes you guys feel better, I am part of #UnmotivatedLosers and I work seven days a week from eight to six; although I do get a lot of free time at work whenever business is slow I still manage to be a part of said group and submit a couple of drawings :3

Come on guys it's not that difficult.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 11:57:21 2013 No.1423231 >>1423228 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huNejF17gzg 2 hours up or down. baby

Anonymous Sat Apr 13 12:01:21 2013 No.1423233
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Hello, founder of #UnmotivatedLosers here.

We have been together for four weeks now. I have often seen people join and post many images in the first week. In following weeks they post less and less until they have to be kicked for inactivity.

I have noticed that the key to success in the group is becoming active in talking to other group members. That is why we strongly suggest getting in group chat (dA irc client), emails, skype, or other methods of communication. Those who are most active in chat are also the most active in the group.

Also, group members do not have to submit every day. Because of time restrictions, it is also allowed to submit all drawings done that week in one day on Saturday. As long as the members are drawing every day!

Let me know if you want to know anything else, we're constantly fixing up the system and adding more interesting things every week.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 14:15:21 2013 No.1423296 >>1423233 the waiting list, is that kinda, of like waiting for someone else to get dropped?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 14:21:21 2013 No.1423299 File: 719 KB, 300x170, 1364597519704.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >This thread

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 14:22:21 2013 No.1423301 >>1423233 Just took a peak at the group >Featured >Finished pieces go here. No studies or sketches please. >Contains two studies What give?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 14:37:21 2013 No.1423311 >>1423301 Nobody has really submit any finished pieces, so I just put some nice studies in there.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 14:38:21 2013 No.1423313 >>1423296 Yes. Every week some people are kicked from the group because of inactivity, so we will the spots with people on the waiting list.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 14:39:21 2013 No.1423314 >>1423233 We have an IRC if you want to ask questions there. irc.rizon.net #UnmotivatedLosers

>>	Captain Batman !!adU8zxGv9/w Sat Apr 13 16:44:21 2013 No.1423411 My Jayne, You're late. Relax and finish it. Captain

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 17:14:21 2013 No.1423433 >>1423211 terrible mindset. detach the ego from your work. yeah it's hard but you will benefit from it. the guys you admire today were exactly were you are at some point.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 13 21:02:21 2013 No.1423588 >>1423219 >#excuses >implying I don't already draw every day, and simply don't need your group If it benefits you, good on you for going for it, but it's not automatically going to suit or be necessary for everyone.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 15 08:36:21 2013 No.1424827 shit, did Jayne die?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 15 09:41:21 2013 No.1424868 >>1424827 I hope Jayne's not switched into avoidance mode after finding him/herself behind.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 15 17:01:21 2013 No.1425151 This thread is very usefull and entertaining. bamp. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWaB4PXCwFU

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 15 20:10:21 2013 No.1425333 >>1424868 like a rabbit in the headlights. "oh shit what do i do mang?"

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 15 20:19:21 2013 No.1425340 File: 43 KB, 600x408, e-drama.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Come back, Jayne! Or at least acknowledge that you're not dead.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 15 20:36:21 2013 No.1425351 File: 344 KB, 640x480, NappaEarthSaiyanSaga.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Or was there every any Jayne to begin with...

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 15 22:19:21 2013 No.1425389 >>1425351 If I remember correctly Jane started a new thread and said her friend died or something

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 15 22:25:21 2013 No.1425390 >>1425389 Oh snap, Boston???? Disaster strikes its mighty claw right into the heart of /ic/

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 15 22:47:21 2013 No.1425395 >>1425389 That was a different anon who wanted an art domis.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 15 22:48:21 2013 No.1425397 >>1425390 No I saw it yesterday or the day before. It also had apples snapping at his student.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 15 23:03:21 2013 No.1425414 >>1425351 the whole thing was pretty clearly fabricated

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 15 23:08:21 2013 No.1425416 >>1425414 So is porn but you are still able to enjoy that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 15 23:14:21 2013 No.1425420 >>1425397 >Apples snapping at his student. Lol oh yeah

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 16 11:32:21 2013 No.1425604 >>1425420 >>1425397 who the fuck is Apples

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 16 11:40:21 2013 No.1425608 >>1425604 See >>1419295 >>1422879

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 16 13:11:21 2013 No.1425654 >>1425416 Exactly. That's why this is enjoyable: >>1417073

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 16 19:12:21 2013 No.1425825 I recopied New Yorker cartoons until I could draw new characters in the same style. Then I got a manga mannikin in order to draw balanced poses. If you get enough sun and exercise, you might feel like you're able to have a swing at it again.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 16 20:03:21 2013 No.1425877 >>1425825 that's not the way to do it >inb4 loomis

>>	jayne2.0 !!Nu0AKreTcaU Wed Apr 17 04:10:21 2013 No.1426127 If Jayne does not reappear, call me Jayne, for I shall be your Jayne and it will be as though you never lost your Jayne. Oh Captain, my Captain. Take the reigns, lead me.

>>	Captain Batman !!adU8zxGv9/w Wed Apr 17 15:58:21 2013 No.1426423 File: 346 KB, 1280x1956, CBJPG16.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1426127 Patience, Anon. I too was absent for 5 days without warning, but I came back. My Jayne may pull through yet.

Anonymous Wed Apr 17 17:24:21 2013 No.1426470

I wonder if it's better to join a community and have people look at your work and find the issues plaguing the drawings you make or is it better to keep it for yourself and finding the problems by understanding your faults and finding ways for fix it. While it may take alot longer wouldnt it be better in the long run?

Anonymous Thu Apr 18 01:22:21 2013 No.1426805

>>1426470

I don't think it would really make a difference, so long as you don't use other people's criticisms as a "fix this, this, and this" crutch and actually think about it and learn to see the problems yourself.
Plus, it'll improve your communication/interpretation skills, open you up to a host of new vocabulary and concepts, and deflate any sensitivity you might unknowingly have towards your work.

Anonymous Thu Apr 18 13:12:21 2013 No.1427139

lol. "this could all be set and batman could also be playing the Jayne character"

You do realise that giving yourself both roles. One working out what you should learn and develop, where you should start. The other role of art dominus, following the tasks you have decided as the teacher role, will be beneficial. you could find that this makes it much easier to learn to draw....

or you can thank the universe for allowing you to happen upon this place and you can learn what you can from batman and jayne. it doesnt matter where the info, where the excuse to actually do it, comes from

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 21 16:24:21 2013 No.1429882 if, you´re serious then i want in aswell!

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 21 16:25:21 2013 No.1429884 >>1396333 newfag, figured out how to reply i think

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 21 16:32:21 2013 No.1429890 http://unmotivatedlosers.deviantart.com/ Looking for more members. Polite sage for soliciting.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 21 16:51:21 2013 No.1429903 >>1429890 sent a note polite sage

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 24 14:15:21 2013 No.1432252 File: 19 KB, 475x302, tumblr_m9h0kgM0rb1qbhsbe.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] COME BACK, JAYNE!

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 24 18:18:21 2013 No.1432363 bump just in case

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 25 05:02:21 2013 No.1432755 >>1429890 I will join this group one day when I have my own computer to use daily (I feel I would be kicked for inactivity if I joined now)

The End Captain Batman !!adU8zxGv9/w Thu Apr 25 05:26:21 2013 No.1432782
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My Jayne,

This marks the end of our experiment. I bear you no ill will for your choice; you've always had the choice.

I thank you for taking the risk with me, and I wish you the best of luck in your artistic endeavors.
I hope that you (and Anonymous) have found something to gain while this lasted, just as I have.
I don't plan on taking a new underling anytime soon.

Perhaps I'll return someday, a different man.

Captain

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 25 05:32:21 2013 No.1432786 >>1429890 Can I join if I'm shitty but still want to be not shitty?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 25 05:37:21 2013 No.1432788 File: 8 KB, 200x192, 1366323507919.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1432782

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 25 06:24:21 2013 No.1432797 >>1432786 Yes. Mikufag is in our group, so you can join him and a few others that are near the same skill level.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 25 10:13:21 2013 No.1432896 File: 122 KB, 662x807, 1361720550800.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1432782 noo D:

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 25 11:33:21 2013 No.1432946 File: 60 KB, 400x400, 1358138809230.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1432782 But...but.....

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 25 16:37:21 2013 No.1433109 File: 259 KB, 198x153, 1363190466909.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1432782 goodbye.....captain.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 25 16:59:21 2013 No.1433129 File: 652 KB, 660x399, O-Captain-My-Captain.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1432782

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 25 17:08:21 2013 No.1433133 File: 550 KB, 150x90, 1334299127974.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1432782 you will be missed

Anonymous Thu Apr 25 17:35:21 2013 No.1433149

Just a friendly reminder that we're vaguely nearing autosage at this point (300 here, right? We're at 265), so if you guys want a chance of seeing Jayne's return you might want to ease up on the reactions.

I propose we use our remaining bumps for r34, but y'know, that's just me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 25 19:53:21 2013 No.1433262 Ahhh I just got off to this thread so hard

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 25 20:09:21 2013 No.1433273 >>1433149 Gotchya

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 25 20:10:21 2013 No.1433275 >>1433273 oh wait, sorry forgot to sage

>>	Apples Thu Apr 25 20:12:21 2013 No.1433276 Well, it looks like both our students bailed, mine faster than captains.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 25 20:13:21 2013 No.1433280 rip in peace art dominus and jayne, you have motivated me to pick up on drawing again and for that i shall never forget.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 25 20:25:21 2013 No.1433289 >>1433275 Posting again with sage doesn't do anything but bring it even closer to the autosage limit. Every post, even sages count towards the limit.

Merely a common man Thu Apr 25 21:23:21 2013 No.1433337
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A true spectacle for us to behold. Truly a journey beyond our own measure; many of us may ne'er meet a moment opportune to hold so sweet, so dear, an enchanted piece of belonging and purpose as to that honorable Jayne. And yet, she had vanish'd without but a speck or trace even so minuscule. She had left without saying her farewells. One cannot go about his life without being stolen away with that vulgar and morbid question:

"How could she?"

Of course, she may have her own reasons, she may not have known, we all tell ourselves.

"How could she?"

This thought echoes in our cranial cavities and we may not bare it from. How could she forsake the blessing of her noble Master, her direction, her legate of truth and discovery, Her Art Dominus.

And now, forever, that Pioneer will be lost to us, for he has no reason to continue on here without his Jayne.

Can this mortal calamity called life be more cruel to the likes of us?

Nay! Nay I say, it is too cruel.

Perhaps there may be hope. Hope that we have reached the bottom, and there can be no lower than us. Who were we to question that graceful Jayne? She was the bravest of us. The only one of us to convince the glorious phantom to bid a short veil of time.

Truly, we were only observers on this journey, we should be grateful that we were allowed to merely gander. We should not regret the world that comes to end, but rather find comfort in the privilege of our lessons.

My Heart goes out Jayne, and the true face behind that mysterious Captain.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 02:45:21 2013 No.1436053 This thread shall not die yet! Is it archived at least?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 29 12:18:21 2013 No.1436422 >>1436053 yes it is, but not the whole thread ic / 68163 /art-dominus from chanarchive

>>	Anonymous Wed May 1 23:17:21 2013 No.1438621 Captain Batman post pics of yourself plox. You sound hot

>>	Anonymous Sat May 4 04:53:51 2013 No.1440247 bump

>>	Anonymous Sat May 4 06:51:41 2013 No.1440263 What the fuck is going on

>>	Anonymous Sat May 4 06:58:41 2013 No.1440278 >>1440263 Nothing, now. There was this whole thing with an art dominus. If you'd read the first few thread posts, you'd know about it.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 4 07:05:41 2013 No.1440287 >>1440278 damn this thread is going to 404 soon ; A ;

>>	Anonymous Sat May 4 07:10:41 2013 No.1440293 >>1440287 So archive it. It was said that only part of it was archived before.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 4 07:17:41 2013 No.1440300 >>1440293 i can't archive it directly, but you can vote for it on chanarchive, 3 more votes needed

>>	Anonymous Sat May 4 07:22:41 2013 No.1440306 >>1440300 >i can't archive it directly, >File>Save Page As...

>>	Anonymous Sat May 4 07:54:41 2013 No.1440320 >>1440300 Only 2 more votes needed now. >>1440306 He means the archive directly option on chanarchive.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 4 16:39:41 2013 No.1440637 >>1432782 HE WAS THE HERO /IC/ WANTED BUT NOT THE ONE IT NEEDED OR DESERVED

>>	Anonymous Sat May 4 17:05:41 2013 No.1440650 File: 33 KB, 426x314, 1352704768101.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1432782 goodbye sweet prince

>>	Anonymous Sat May 4 18:13:41 2013 No.1440676 >>1396333 this shit again? lol

>>	Anonymous Tue May 7 22:29:23 2013 No.1443943 rescue bump

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