/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>7152096

That's kinda my point. As a total beginner, whenever I try to draw *anything* figure related including gestures, I just hate it and I get discouraged and don't want to draw. I'm doing Draw A Box right now, but goddamn that shit is boring.

>>7152421
OP is a figure

>>7152530
And part of the program is to "draw just to draw," and when I'm drawing outside of DAB, I don't know *what* to draw. What do, master bros?

>>7152536
I usually draw the fi

>>7152536
Draw whatever interests you, if it's figures, draw figures. Don't fall into the trap of
>I won't draw it because it doesn't look good.
If you do that, you'll never be able to draw anything, everyone sucks at drawing in the beginning. Yes, you will stink at it, but you'll get better.

>>7152550
Damn /fig/ bros it's been forever since I've drawn anything. New project at work had me exhausted, but I want to get back to my dailies.

>>7152562
Welcome back bro

>>7152421
https://youtu.be/38jpIyCI2Tw

>>7152562
This is great

Still very beg, so kinda wondering what I'm supposed to "get" from the different lengths of figure/gesture drawing. So far, 30 secs to 1 min seems almost entirely just a physical warmup exercise, also a way to practice some quick observation. Then 2-5 mins I find is to build on that quicker gesture with a bit more detail, starting to express the forms of the body like limbs or segments. And 5-10 (I haven't gone longer yet) seems like then adding more anatomical detail like specific muscles or other details of the figure (hair, facial features, penis or breasts).

I've been enjoying just copying stuff from various anatomy resources. I realize that this is not figure drawing in a sense, but I find it fascinating.

I have Morpho Anatomy for kind of big picture or overview stuff, I have an android app "Human Anatomy Atlas" to spin things around in 3D and I have the photographic atlas from Rohen-Yokochi-Drecoll. I recommend all three of these if any of you are interested in the depths of the human body.

Does someone has all the images from ryan woodwards book gesture drawing vol3?

today's session

>>7152479
thanks

>>7152659
Kenzo explained the concept well in this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH6E_n51-BQ

>>7152605
>>7152562
Good to see you again.
>>7152792
You kind of do need to understand anatomy to draw good figures.
>>7152659
Fast gestures are meant to capture the essence of a figure.
>>7154521
Breddy nice

>>7152530
>As a total beginner, whenever I try to draw *anything* figure related including gestures, I just hate it and I get discouraged and don't want to draw.
I think almost everyone can relate to it, it's probably easier to be a beginner in a group with a teacher or having a strong character that helps you accept that sucking is part of getting better.
Not being discouraged by the things you do is already a good challenge.

Keep watch and pray, so þæt thou sceal not give in to temptation not to draw faces when practising figures

Sorry for crosspost. From the other day.

>>7154774
These are great, nice anatomy.

>>7154614
I like how you break down forms. Need to learn your ways.

>>7152605
Super clean as always. Way to be consistent. How many of these have you done?

>>7154908
That's awesome

For whatever reason, using a big, messy brush to copy Bridgman makes it less stressful and a bit fun, I guess because I can't concentrate on small details that I can't describe anyway.
Although it does feel like cheating. I'm not sure if that's a good thing in the long run, but for now, when I don't know much anatomy and can't describe it, I think I'll stick with it for a while.

>>7154774
That's gorgeous, friend.

>>7154908
Thank you so much, but I don't think there's anything to learn from me.
On the other hand, that's a very lovely style you have here, it reminds me of late 2D Disney.

>>7154614
>>7154949
Nice grindan
>>7154774
Very lovely
>>7154908
Reminds me of good western cartoons, pretty cool.

I hope it's just an average beginner's frustration that will pass with time and experience, because at the moment it feels like the best I can do is study\copy Bridgman\Hampton's drawings, but when I try to make my own gestures I get lost in the details and end up with some random lines or wobbly contours that say this is a body and this is not.
It feels like 95% of drawing is done in your head.

>>7157025
Forgot something.

I have enlarged her bottom half too much, and her pose has become more upright than in the reference (so I basically blundered the gesture)

I don't feel like I've done her justice

>>7157025
Have you tried studying other teachers? For example Vilppu and Huston click with me more. Maybe Bridgman and Hampton's approaches are not for you.
>>7157063
Creepy smile

Haven't been here en a while but here's last week, I think most are 5min but some are less

Figure drawing is so frustrating, I take a beautiful human body, which is beautiful most of the time, and I put some "effort" and time into it, only to turn it into pure shit. Oh boy, it's disheartening.
And even though Hampton says not to draw counters, I just can't, but I do try.

>>7157075
>Have you tried studying other teachers?
I've watched an old Gumroad course by Finch and a lecture by Huston, but I've decided to stick with Hampton and Bridgman for now, just because. I understand that there are bad teachers and bad material, but in my case I think it's me for sucking and blaming the material is a slippery slope. As for Vilppu, I think Hampton said that his book is mostly based on his studies of Vilppu, so it's kind of the same.
I just hope that in a year or so I will improve and not develop bad habits.
Also, Huston has a book?

>>7158094
Great figures, mate.

>>7158397
>counters
you mean contors

>>7159007
embarassing

>>7158094
Where are your gestures? Are you just drawing figs without them or what?

>>7159556
can you explain your questions? Not sure I get what you're asking

figure drawing class cancelled because the model is on the rag again

>>7159600
They should just tell people to bring a red pencil, no need to cancel.

>>7159007
>>7159028
I can't live with this kind of shame, I'm off to complete sudoku.

Why do I be sucking so much shit?

>>7160607
Use references, study good teachers, draw more.

>>7152421
some trash from imagination

I keep trying to use this 8B pencil I was gifted but I really don't enjoy it.

Also I don't enjoy shading with a pencil, so I would appreciate any tips you guys have on the best way to indicate values with the least effort. I like painting more (and charcoal as well), but I have this weird urge to use this pencil even though I don't like it.

Do you guys stick to a medium that works or do you mix it up?

>>7162564
Charcoal is the best for trad shading in dry medium, methinks

>>7154908
>>7154774
fun styles

Meh.

It's late, so here's a very gestural and super artistic big red stickman in the top left corner to cover for me.

On side note, gestures are weird thing when you suck, like I do. Simple and yet I do not understand them at all.

>>7165902
>>7166215
Very nice, anon.

>>7166215
>like I do
If this is sucking them I'm sorry for even picking a pencil.

>>7152421

>>7152421
https://youtu.be/NUPPqxZ4FLs

>>7152562
ahh, feels good to draw.

>>7152605
>>7167829
very comfy vids
>>7152792
it's good to draw what you enjoy
>>7154521
nice job, I like your color studies.
>>7154582
>>7154614
>>7154949
>>7157028
>>7158397
>>7159683
>>7163497
>>7165902
>>7166215
great job filling up them pages anons, milage is important.
>>7154774
very nice, you can really sense the muscle structures.
>>7154908
great stylization
>>7155880
lookin good
>>7157063
keep it up. proportions are tough to get right.
>>7158094
oh looks like actual life drawing class? very cool.
>>7160607
draw alot, and don't neglect the fundies. keep it up.
>>7161756
that color combo hurts my brain. The middle guy is the only one that needs a redo.
>>7162564
I did a quick count, and I have about 11 pens/pencils that I'll switch off using depending on how I feel.
I don't do a ton of shading, but I try to just block out the values with different amounts of pressure/passes. I'm usually using something like an HB or 2B.
>>7166925
nice focused study.

Hey nerds, fa/tg/uy here. My wife and I have been asked to sit as figure models for a sketch class, but I don't know what to where or how to pose. My wife has done it a couple times, but I could use a point in the right direction. I don't into art.

If it helps, I'm 6'5", 250, usually wearing XLT black vnecks and chinos.

My wife is 5'5", 110, usually wearing very modest teacher clothes or athleisure wear.

As a note, fully clothed.

anyone know a free video course I can take? I have basic understanding but am still a total noob. Looking for something that lays out all the steps I should take in order, whatever has worked for you

>>7168198
>anyone know a free video course I can take?
Internet has tons of free video courses if you know where to look, but in general figure drawing is a very hard subject especially for a beginner, but you can look for Hampton's course on figure drawing or his book they are pretty much the same, or Will Weston courses and book, Glenn Vilppu also has a great book and tons of courses he has made over the last 70ish years and there is also Steve Huston with his courses. There are many more, but these are the people that are generally recommended.

>>7168216
yeah I'm strongly considering just buying Hampton's video course on proko since no anon here has ever uploaded it yet, definitely seems the most noob friendly

>>7168240
do it! please be our savior anon and deliver us the goods

>>7168817
nice work, what are you studying from?

Also what tools are you using?

>>7168818
im studying photo reference using Steve Huston's teachings. the tools are photoshop and this brush pack, https://www.artstation.com/a/32659186, pic is the 2 brushes im using from the pack.

I'm still waiting for that divine insight into gesture drawing that is bound to dawn on me soon, a year at the most, maybe two.
Meanwhile I'm getting closer to the heads in Bridgman's book, no idea how to approach them.

>>7166421
I don't know, Anon, there are some very nice gestures\sketches in this thread, and at best I'm just getting the proportions "right". I'm not in a hurry, it's a complicated subject, but it would be nice to see some changes on my part.

>>7166255
Thank you.

>>7166925
>>7168817
You remind me of a professional artist I saw somewhere online, not sure who.

>>7169828
Nice lines.

>>7168240
yooo

>>7169008
The "Constructive figure drawing" course ?

>>7170138
yes, plus using his patreon videos supplementary

Beg here, why have I not seen anybody on /ic/ ever mention Richard Smitheman b4? I've tried a bunch of different approaches to get my figure drawing to be competent but his method was by far the most informative to capture both gesture + anatomy.

I do think you have to learn some of the fundamentals else where but once I felt ready for figures, his livestreams did wonders

I should do more gestures/ short figures
Seeing some really nice figures here in pencil, am I punishing myself with pen at the cost of being more dynamic?
Maybe I just need to get bigger balls.

>>7170041
thankyou, I like how you iterate most of them, looks pretty effective

1m to 15m. I'm being able to do so much with the time that I think my next step is thinking of finding the most attractive sections of figures and doing more work in them, proportions are sliightly off but shouldn't be too hard to correct

>>7168005
doodlin' while watching the 5th element, tough to draw on the couch. Went back today and filled in some blank spaces.

>>7168198
I never really took a course, kinda just cobbled together different lessons from all over the palce. Proko, Hide, Hampton, randoyoutuber69420, sinix, etc. looks like you're going with hampton, let us know how it goes!
>>7168817
nice studies
>>7169828
lookin' good!
>>7170041
these are good sessions, maybe take a little time after each one, and do some takeaways. like, "I learned this today"
>>7170862
never heard of Smitheman, I'll take a look. thanks for sharing.
>>7170919
I like some of those faces! I use all kinds of pens/pencils. Don't give yourself arbitrary rules on what you have to use.
>>7170940
well done. all the elements are coming together nicely.

Finally managed to draw some timed gestures again

>>7168130
Had a fun time sitting today.

>>7172198

>>7170158
are the videos unlisted on YouTube ? mind sharing a link to them ?

Does anyone know what site this pose is from/ what model?

Also, holy fuck pose space is so expensive, but ngl the 4k 360 rotations are worth it.

>>7170919
Used pencil this time, it's annoying how quickly they dull though. I'm really not comfortable in 1 minute poses either

>>7172210
There is no link to unlisted videos. His patreon videos are initially livestreams on his youtube page, then posted on his patreon. A lot of the lessons on his youtube that have been posted recently are old patreon videos. I'm assuming everything will end up on his youtube eventually.

i have no idea how to draw feet

1-2min warm ups for tonight

yesterday and today

>>7172818
More 2 min gestures, order was from the bottom being the first, top being the last

Gestures just refuse to improve, Hampton says "don't draw contors" and yet. I'm trying to see form, movement, force, feeling, whatever.
And then I keep drawing stickmen. Fucking hell.

>>7173960
>>7173703
Nice and fast gestures, man.

>>7173764
What's on the previous page?

>>7174376
Use wrapping lines. Helps a lot.

some iterative gesture and simple figure constructions from today

>>7173764
some doodles from anime, went to a baseball game later in the evening. tough to draw people constantly moving, fun though.

>>7173960
these are nice, good energy. efficient lines.
>>7174376
gesture is always tricky. These look decent overall though.
>what was on previous page
>>7171058 <this

>>7174744
good job finding the basic C and S curves.

>>7173703
assorted

>>7152421

>>7175591
good muscle studies

>>7173126

>>7175591
>>7175636
Great stuff, anon.
>>7175671
My knees! They are moving on their own!
>>7175535
Breddy good.
>>7175503
I can't sketch real humans for shit. Mostly because I'm bad with clothes. I really need to study them.
>>7174744
Keep it up, draw more bro! And don't forget to think about what you do.

Some 2 mins and some 15ish mins
very leggy refs today

any vids on how to apply values to my figures? or i guess shading? i'm retarded

>>7176422
Huston teaches that

>>7175535
>>7173703
how??? is this you huston bro

>>7175503
yesterday

>>7175535
lookin good. shapes look nice.
>>7175636
good forms
>>7175671
nice consistency
>>7175886
it's good to practice a bit of everything
>>7176247
nice gestures, and long ladies
>>7176442
pretty good. gotta pump those numbers up.

hi !!
first time here

>>7176481
some real good stuff anon

Bloody hell

>>7176247
Great work. Loving those shadow shapes on the top figures!

subtractive drawing, 40 minutes

Model session stuff.
I think I'm getting better with accuracy, next would be cleaner drawings and more defined shadows. I think I'm reaching the point where I can easily capture the figure as is, but if I don't add interest very deliberately it looks a bit emotionally flat

>>7176474
some imagination on my scratch paper, then some studies in my sketchbook.

>>7176718
nice
>>7177252
interesting
>>7177422
nice work!

I spent way too much time on this

>>7175671
What references you use for these?

All two minute figures from line-of-action.com for some screwed up reason my input gets worse as time goes on. Maybe its because im rushing now and treating 2 minutes like 30

I should go back to studying Hampton, and I heard Huston has good shit. Maybe even the force stuff even though my head hurts a lot reading the book.

Feedback is welcome

I have a bit of an aversion towards drawing straight up porn, but it's the most readily available video material of naked bodies interacting.

Top middle is my favorite.

This is the second page I drew and it's better than the first. I can only imagine the gains that would come if I did a 100 pages. But would it harm my soul? Or would I ascend and become asexual, dispassionately observing the interacting shapes all day and night?

>>7178724
>I have a bit of an aversion towards drawing straight up porn, but it's the most readily available video material of naked bodies interacting.

Dude. Mma fights are there. You could also use movies. Go to the pose pack thread if you want references.

While you are on the right track on drawing a hundred pages (I suggest drawing more) you have to learn a bit more in order to level up. Stuff like structure, proper proportions, landmarks. And to remove bad habits like scratchy lines.

Your soul is safe, btw. Your ability to analyze something does not take away your ability to enjoy it.

>>7177826

Am I gonna make it? 40 minutes

>>7180081
You never make it as something singular, but you can continue to "be making it" if you make an effort. (Aristotle)

>>7176247 Some more today
>>7176474 Thankyou, it's those refs posted in the OP
>>7177826
>>7179911
Cool shapes, I feel like I learn from your sketches
>>7177915 At some point you need to decide if you want 10 3 minute poses or 1 60 minute pose... but sometimes it's fun to 'finish' something
>>7178399 For 2 minutes it looks like you're still getting plenty of information. I haven't taken Huston or Hampton but I hear about them all the time too.
>>7178724
Porn as a tool, I feel like the models contort themselves and are hyper aware of the camera/ looking good, not always good to have for most of your figures, but sure use what you can lol
>>7180081 I don't know anyone who has made it that asks that :P

>>7178724
Art station has packs for like $12 with enough photos to last you a year. If you're drawing porn it's because you want to draw porn.

>>7178897
Yeah, mma fights are not bad. But not naked. I drew a frame but I couldn't figure out how to make it clear which leg is which for the right fighter and where her hip is facing.

I personally like scratchy lines.

>>7180675
Image packs are often less immediate than a still image from something in motion. And yeah, maybe I do.

>>7180982
You're not good enough yet to worry about things like 'immediacy'.

>And yeah, maybe I do.
Nice it's good to come to terms with yourself.

Sorry but drawing models from a photo is fucking useless

>>7180997
they might not be as ideal as a live model, but they're not so diametrically different that you can't use them to improve various fundamentals

>>7180997
Oh for fuck's sake

>>7179911
sketches from imagination, and some studies.

>>7180081
I like the hatching filling the forms
>>7180661
another good round, nice energy
I like to imagine the boxes containing the parts, helps with direction.
>>7180997
lol

4chan rotated this, deleted & trying again

>>7180661
back to ink, 3 of those gesdrawparty sessions, tried brush pen because I saw other people make nice figures with one

>>7181065
different pens/pencils today

>>7181752
digging the style, expressive strokes.
>>7181790
these are great!
>>7181917
hey anon, looks like you're improving. great work!

>>7182175
>hey anon, looks like you're improving. great work!
You think so? Thanks, that helps a lot.
Also cute elf.

>>7178309
hitomi tanaka, various jav, artist Shindo_L, artist おるとろ Vadass, various pixiv.

>>7181790
Is it too much to post in this thread every day, or is it a drop a few pages in kind of thing?
>>7182175
I appreciate the encouragement, a lot of variety in a page
>>7182537
I like the way you simplify, you make it look easy

>>7182175
fillin' up them pages

>>7182992
Dailies seem to fine, we don't hit the bump limit very quickly. I like seeing the reminders to get sketchin', personally.

>>7182537
>Shindo_L
Heh
>>7182992
>Is it too much to post in this thread every day
Why would it be too much?
>>7184151
Very nice stylisation!

>>7182992
today's session

I guess I don't want to fill up the thread? I think it stems from wanting more people to post. Even if they don't think they're any good!

>>7184151
Saturday morning sketches!

>>7185314
nice, the flow is feeling much more natural, imo. good job
>>7185957
great gestures, love the implied lines. I'd say post as often as you like, the more pings to the thread, the more chances at bringing people in.

>>7157063
for hair, try to treat the whole mass like one solid object. don't focus on strands - you are not good and you cannot hope to draw enough strands

>>7170940
faces are hard but you shouldn't omit them. even a simple cube for the head is far better practice. the orientation of the head conveys a lot about the pose!

>>7173630
careful with your figure's center of gravity. this looks like she may be falling over. don't be afraid to use plum lines while starting your sketch, they will disappear automatically by the end!

>>7180081
you'll never make it if you keep lying to yourself. I've seen your work in other threads and I know you've drawn this model (actually this exact image) multiple times. I'm going to give you a harsh critique because I'm quite sure you are tracing sections of these models - I even saw someone else call you out for it.
your line work is quite sloppy and your shading is extremely patchy. it's as if you're still very /beg/, but yet some of your proportions are quite accurate. either you need to stop tracing, or you need to learn how to properly render a drawing.

>>7186097
Not them but pretty solid advice

>>7186080
moar

>>7188083
not bad, you're capturing some of the subtlety he expresses with overlapping lines. Good job.

>>7187799
>>7186080
what are you using for reference?

Thank you, I'm trying to understand what I'm seeing, but I guess it takes time to "digest" things and it's a very slow process, at least for me.

>>7185957
had a rough session yesterday (these are today)
humbling bad, I love those

First time trying to paint a figure without doing lineart first

>>7187799
some imagination/reference head shapes, and some various studies

>>7188083
>>7188138
good dedication!
>>7188320
incredibly based growth mindset. I dig the terminator shadow line in the middle one.
>>7188333
well done

>>7188087
I just have 100k+ ref images I've collected over the years. lots of ref packs, anime, artbooks, etc. I'll just set them to random, and try to work with the ones that seem interesting.

Hey /fig/. It's been a couple months since I drew.
Hoping to get back into the swing of things. Gotta shake off the rust.

>>7188138
Very good!
>>7188320
Me like
>>7188590
Drawing from imagination is hard, good job fren.
>>7188749
Don't just hope, draw!

>>7188320
Took my time with these, hurt my brain but clothes are pretty forgiving for ink errors.
>>7188590
Thanks man, I like your Asukas
>>7188333
Nice forms
>>7188749
Welcome back
>>7189273
nice variety of exercises

>>7188590
today's lesson: a strange way to eat pancakes (among other things)

>>7188749
welcome back, post moar! (ideally every day)
>>7189273
good job looking for the forms
>>7189369
impressive! raw dogging with the pen is always fraught with terrors. what's your favorite pen? I like my Signo 0.28, and my cheap Jinhao fountain pen for fine lines

>>7189369
today
>>7190004
Haven't tried many pens yet, I'm using up some steadtler pigment liners for these. I struggle with dynamism and I think how unfussy they are helps. I might try what you go to, I'm curious about a fountain pen.

>>7182992
>>7182537
>I like the way you simplify, you make it look easy

thank you, im glad you like it

>>7190004
imagination + figs, different pens today

>>7190216
nice session. I've never used the steadtler liners, I usually just grab microns. They seem to do a good job. The Jinhao 82 fountain pen is like $9 and comes with the ability to refill it. I'm using cheap noodlers black ink in it atm. fountain pens probably aren't for everyone, but I really enjoy the filling process, and trying out different inks... I have way to many pens/pencils
>>7190334
nice. I get a really good sense of the 3d forms, and your figs aren't stiff at all.

It's been a while since I've done some male figures

>>7152530
>I'm doing Draw A Box right now
ffs don't be a box drawing incel anon

>>7190004
Thanks I'm also trying to get better at anatomy.
>>7189369
It can get kinda boring doing the same thing.
>>7190423
Pretty cool. Also nice masks.
>>7190334
Bro delivers once again.
>>7190434
Cool dudes.

>>7180081
yes. just learn rendering with charcoal

Iterating. At least she got slightly more human

>>7190570
This looks great, at least to me.

>>7188333
Damn good

>>7188590
>>7190334
I like how you both make things look simple and yet well defined.

>>7190216
Maybe I also like how pen photographs easier.
>>7190423
I got some noodle bulletproof and jinhao coming on Sunday to try
>>7190434
nice masculine forms
>>7190554
>>7190570
>>7190753
>>7191429
Love the variety in this thread lmao

>>7152421
https://youtu.be/-y7PfGHntoE

Free hand stuff from last night. Any reason to avoid doing figures without reference? Not as a replacement mind you

>>7190423
imagination + fig studies

>>7190434
nice muscle shapes, strokes feel nice and loose. neck might be a little thin for a dude that bulky.
>>7190554
good job, are you looking at ref that has the muscles there, or are you placing them after drawing your figures?
>>7190570
smooth
>>7190753
head structure improved
>>7191429
>>7191544
diligence!
>>7191467
nice energy in some of those poses. I like the way you do your leg shapes.
>>7191553
I like your timelapses
>>7191720
drawing from imagination is one of the best ways to retain information if done in tandem with ref drawing, imo. Just be careful not to practice bad habits.

>>7191845
>good job, are you looking at ref that has the muscles there, or are you placing them after drawing your figures?
The latter. I'm trying to draw muscles I somewhat know even if they are not really visible.

>>7191467
trying the signo 0.28
You can fit SO many details holy shit

>>7191845
because drawing is fun

>>7192492
nice gestures as always. Yeah I'm always impressed with how well the signo writes for being so tiny

Some of the stuff I've done today, haven't actually done figure drawing

Some of the stuff I've done today, haven't actually done figure drawing for a couple of years and I think I'm gonna add this as a daily thing

From photos and other artists

first one turned out dangerously sus so I guess I'll censor it

Head feels a bit big maybe

>>7190334
.

>>7192492
more today, I have NEVER drawn this small before but it feels nice to fit more than 3 figures on a page lmao

>>7192633
some warm-ups, and a few pages. Imagination+refs. Watched Frieren with a buddy, enjoyable. I went back to the manga to draw some stuff, but it was hard to find full body stuff, so went back to my regular refs.

>>7192675
nice, can't wait to see more
>>7192881
good job analyzing your mistakes
>>7193305
smooth. interesting shadow shapes.
>>7193616
it's fun playing around with new tools

>>7193616
top are with the jinhao, pretty surprised with how smooth/ low maintenance it is. Now I just need to learn how to hatch...

>>7192633
Do you draw digitally or you're trad only? Very cool nevertheless.
>>7192675
Keep it up broski!
>>7192807
Cool.
>>7192881
I recommend practicing forms and perspective, should help a lot.
>>7193305
Very nice very nice...
>>7193616
Me like.
>>7194573
Hatching is hard indeed...............

>>7193719
last night, and today. felt pretty good about these ones. Trying to mix in more imagination to my routine. Been saving a bunch of mocap actors posts from X, so framed through a kick, then found a bunch of random stuff on Pinterest.

>>7194573
nice figs. I'd like to learn hatching as well. the red ones I posted today are using the Jinhao with some Diamine Oxblood, nice color, a bit pricy tho. Every once in a while the Jinhao clogs a bit, but it's pretty easy to clear.
>>7194617
lookin' good. I like the screen tones. I have a drawing monitor, but I prefer trad. I also did a ton of sketching on my Surface Go, but I realized I missed having a physical sketchbook.

>>7190434

>>7194573
Today, a few longer ones
>>7194617
Very cool
>>7194950
I really like that red, Oxblood sounds awesome too I'll keep that on a wishlist. Really like the clothed figures you made with it too.
>>7195089
Nice gesture

Well, it's shit, total shit. I kind of like it though.
I mean at least I'm no longer turned off by my own ugly drawings, I mean in a good way, I still want them to be as good as possible and learn from them and improve, but I think it's good to accept that you suck and have to work on.

>>7194950
It's beautiful, man, technically and visually.

>>7195612
Did you just go straight for the ink or was there something underneath?

>>7195663
Second one turned even worse, but whatever.
Also I somehow like Bridgman's faces, save for that weird baby, no idea why Finch finds them weird.

>>7194950
imagination + figgies

>>7195089
some nice torsos
>>7195612
nice faces. I think I've only seen your gestures before
>>7195663
>>7195666
looks good to me. I would suggest taking 5-10mins after each session, and try to draw some stuff you learned without reference.

>>7195612
todays
>>7195663
In the previous post the top few and the bottom right were penciled first, but usually just ink, I like how it punches me in the face if I don't slow down and consider my marks.
>>7196276
Thanks! Trying to fill up my page more after seeing yours, I think it affects the next model I draw when there's limited space, which might be a good thing to get over.

>>7192675
Ok so hasn't become a daily thing just yet but when I get going with just one they tend to become more. Today was soso some good some less.

Looked through hackmd and decided to pick up the marvel book again and to watch through some of Fincher's video. Was able to copy the gesture poses from the book ok but as soon as it got to trying to apply what I learnt to human references I just can't seem to maintain any sort of quality or consistency when it comes to planting down the 3 core things of the figure (head, torso and pelvis).
Tried doing other gesture/ figure drawing stuff from other books like hampton's book in the past but I kept having the same problem and I'm not too sure how to sort of deal with this problem of not properly taking in the lessons/ information from the resources.

>>7196276
some studies

>>7196594
nice variety, yeah it's pretty fun looking for ref to fit in a negative space, or coming up with a something to fit from imagination.
>>7196799
nice
>>7196934
repetition helps. you can always do breakout studies of specific concepts and drill those.

>>7196594
today
still not even halfway through the first link of refs, up to 'female angle 2 arms up' lmao

>>7192807
>first one turned out dangerously sus so I guess I'll censor it
coward.

I want to find packs with this model, but she's paywalled on patreon. anyone have all the poses she's made?
she's also done a few nude poses so i'm looking for those aswell

>>7197917
https://www.deviantart.com/jookpubstock/gallery/all

not sure if this is literally everything she's done, but it's 900+

>>7197949
yeah i have all that, but she removed her nude references from there before i could get it, and for like a year now she's only uploaded to patreon

We drawin fellas

Figure drawing season ended, it starts again in September.

I want to improve my lines/proportions/shapes/sketching until then. How should I set myself a goal? I feel like I need to make myself some kind of schedule, because every day I want to do "everything" so if I spend my time doing quick gestures then I get no long drawings done and vice versa (or I do both and sleep less instead which is a bit counterproductive), etc.

Picrel is a copy from Morpho simple forms. I have the Morpho anatomy book and I copy from it several times a week. I think that's good for improving accuracy and my sense of proportion (plus I enjoy learning about the body this way).

Maybe I'm on the right track already, but it's hard to tell what works and what doesn't on my own.

>>7197892
Funny moustache austrian guy vibes

>>7197195
Jookpubstock always has dynamic poses, and usually very good silhouettes.

>>7197203
keep it up
>>7197892
nice, good shapes
>>7198074
good practice
>>7198110
>improve my lines/proportions/shapes/sketching
practice is the only way I know of how to improve those things. If you want to treat them as separate elements, you can try and find different exercises that focus on each thing. example: if you wanted to practice proportion you could simplify figures down to rectangles (or boxes if you know how to draw them) then try and get the proportions right looking at the ribcage vs the hips, or a rectangle for the upper body vs the lower body. But at the end of the day it takes alot of practice and time.

>>7197892
todays are trembly
>>7198074
We drawin'
>>7198110
I haven't done morpho, Force might be good for me
>>7198171
nice draws22dj2x

>>7198908
it's a good day to draw! some couch drawings from last night and some figs from this morning. the quality degrades a little when I take a pic/crop/adjust levels. the lines look a bit cleaner in my sketchbook.

>>7198908
these are great! I really like the cross-legged one on the top of the 2nd page, and the sense of depth you got on the 2nd fig on the 1st page.

>>7198110
I'd advise you to study perspective and practice basic forms. Both things help a lot with construction.
But you are on the right track indeed, Morpho is very beginner friendly.
Also try to compare your drawings to the reference, overlay when in doubt. And fix your mistakes afterwards.

>>7198908
wrist brace today, just a bit slower/ stiffer
>>7199100
cheers, sometimes it works out and I feel like those are flukes
nice cock

where do you get your references from? i hate traditional figure poses because they're in positions i'll never actually use

>>7199943
There is a bunch of references in the OP post.

>>7193305
some warmups, playing with the torso twist was fun, making it more boxy helped
>>7193719
>smooth. interesting shadow shapes.
interesting for sure, was fun experimenting with them

>>7194617
>>7198074

>Very nice very nice...
same to you, nice stuff

>>7199100
yesterdays, got busy at work, so forgot to post. some proportion issues, the perils of pen

>>7199862
your forms and variation in line weight is nice
>>7200896
>feeling the form
nice

>>7199862
todays
>>7200896
>>7200992
I love a good terminator

>>7201006
page looked a little empty with just the 4 figs

>>7201006
I like it when sketches in my sketchbook accidentally interact. Your muscle-man is all, "I roped me a vagina giganta! help me reel 'er in boys!"

>>7201924
This is really nice to look at. Thanks for sharing anon

after Nastivia and photos

Finally trying to get into drawing after starting and losing steam a few times. I really just want to be able to make cute cartoons/comics. My current game plan is to just practice drawing these skeletons in a million different positions and copy/deconstruct movie frames once I get my tablet the mail and hopefully I'll be good enough to make comics at some point if I do this daily and eventually understand anatomy/perspective. Anything I'm missing? I will say this is exhausting for me even though these look terrible, clearly a part of my brain I don't use much. Any additional exercise suggestions? Or suggestions to modify my current plan?

>>7200896
Thanks bro...>>7200992
>>7200992
Lovely faces.
>>7201435
Very cramped in here!
>>7201006
I like your shape language.
>>7202181
Great rendering once again.
>>7202190
1. Use references.
2. Study
3. Draw a lot

>>7201435
feeling more confident with pens, which is nice.

>>7201924
good stuff, keep it up
>>7202181
well structured
>>7202190
keep it up, the only way to fail is to quit. Remember your fundies
>>7202294
bottom right, first page, looks real good.

>>7201006
today, pretty scratchy :/


Hope everyone had a good weekend

Decided to shake things up and draw some clothed figures for a change.
>>7202557
Thanks, I think it was drawn in the so called state of flow when everything just works.
Also cool Frog.
>>7202901
You too bro.

attack pls

>>7203170
very nice

havent drawn in months

>>7203595
Like riding a bike anon, you've still got it.

>>7203596
yes... figure drawing is the way to get back into it

>>7202901
shorter timed poses today
>>7203082
do you have a preference for short hair
>>7203172
I like how you draw the ass especially, post more
>>7203595
welcome back
>>7203596
nice lines, I will master the brush pen one day

>>7152421
I picked up Constructive Anatomy by Bridgman, should I pick up another book? What's the go-to bible for learning anatomy?

>>7203794
I'm a total beginner but I've either seen people overwhelmingly recommend Andrew Loomis or say that he's overrated and you should look elsewhere. The only book I've purchased for myself so far though is this one and it's pretty good.

>>7152421
I live in NY and there are no end of life drawing nights but the models are always whales or old. I dont want to draw roasties or ham planets. Where are the hot life drawing classes at for actual young people? Im sick of this city being raided by boomers and gen xers.

Also are life drawing classes a good place to get laid lmao

I like stretching poses.

>>7203082
The bottom lady is nice.

>>7203865
>Also are life drawing classes a good place to get laid lmao
you're asking the wrong set of virgin NEETs

>>7200896
.

30 min warmup class

>>7202557
been super busy at work, finally got some time to draw! never really tried to drawl a horse, but it popped up in my reference folder.

>>7202901
well-stroked
>>7203082
really good to change things up
>>7203170
>>7203172
good stuff, draw more
>>7203595
nice stylization
>>7203596
thicc (lines)
>>7203774
short n' sweet
>>7204267
nice
>>7204426
cool hair
>>7204532
I've always liked the look of thick dark outlines

>>7202294
>>7202557
Thanks anons, I downloaded a book of nude poses and I've somehow been consistent about spending about an hour a day drawing fundamental anatomy shapes. I think I need to find a book with a million different poses and just draw, I'm pleasantly surprised by how much less painful this is after only a couple days. They still don't look great but my head hurts less. Any pose book recs? I really don't feel like compiling poses on my own right now, maybe I'll stop by the art store later.

Cubes or gesture.
What do you personally find more comfortable to use as a base for a figure drawing?

>>7204612
>horse
it looks great, i love it's face

>>7203774
today we render
>>7204426
your figures show the ineptitude of my gesture. I like them. I will start Huston studies this week.
>>7204532
nice variety, I like warming up the day with gestures/ figures
>>7204612
elegant horse and rider, your girls look sad today, maybe it was just the randomizer
>>7204771
It doesn't really matter, why not learn both and use one where it fits in situations better suited.

>>7204907
Todays

how the hell do you all draw so good ;_;

>>7152421
Did this a while back

>>7206025
And this too

>>7206025
you should do some figures today and post those

I'd like to get back into figure drawing but I'm autistically sensitive when it comes to faces. I feel like even if I spent my days digging through refs I wouldn't find a girl I'm OK with.

>>7206104
stolen valor, you don't draw anymore, stop getting satisfaction off your accomplishments that are not a reflection of you now

>>7206091
1/5

>>7206169
2/5

>>7206171
3/5
I’ve got two more but they’re too big and idk how to reduce file size on my phone. And yeah today was kind of shit ngl.

>>7206174
4/5
Found a site to compress my stuff so here are the final two

>>7203595
I guess it's time to draw more!
>>7203596
Very nice, I like the shadows
>>7203774
>do you have a preference for short hair
You're the first person who noticed
>>7203794
I'd recommend Stonehouse, his anatomy book is pretty good at explaining why and how anatomy works the way it works.
>>7204267
Thanku, also very nice rib cage.
>>7204426
Very good lines indeed...
>>7204612
I really can't hatch traditionally for shit. Maybe it's because traditionally I mostly draw from imagination so there's not enough info.
>>7204771
Why not both? Start with gesture and if you have any problems with positioning use boxes or cylinders or circles or whatever you want.
>>7204907
Das nice, I really like the bottom face.
>>7205971
Is that Huston I see?
>>7206025
>>7206028
>>7206169
>>7206171
>>7206174
>>7206179
Keep it up bro.

More imagination poses. These take longer than I'd like, so not much for quantity.

>>7204612
soulful shading on that horse.
>>7206179
That's a good back.

I thought I was getting the hang of this drawing thing. Turns out I wasn't.
A little help? I don't know how to make it not look like trash.
Everything is just wrong.

>>7206845
Try mapping out gesture lines and some proportions first. Just keep it simple at the beginning. Simple => complex. If you don't know how to draw something, try simplifying it. Spheres, eggs, tubes with direction lines. Whatever helps you to understand where things are facing.
You have it good with all 1, 2, and 3. Try finding chest and pelvis size, shoulder girdle, hips direction, body center line, where neck, arms and legs connect. Details can be added later as you figure out if you are on the right track.

>>7206845
I took a shot at this, maybe it helps clear out the structure

>>7206482
nice pulling pose my man. love the twisting on that supporting ankle

>>7206845
not sure what you're talking about, 2 and 3 look pretty good to me.
>>7207123
nice attempt, but you need to follow your center line, the bottom of the line is where the crotch should be.

quick ones

>>7206845
Try to make every element of her stomach more distinguished

>>7206845
overthinking: the image

>>7206845
Decided to give it a try with some varied approaches

Been going through the Hampton book and bouncing between Drawing the figures in the books, writing down what the book says and applying what I learnt to references but I can't seem to nail down. Feels like I'm still trying to draw the reference's figure rather than it's gesture and I feel like there's something missing that, although I've read and understood the text, I just haven't fully got it yet.
Just not too sure what I'm messing up.

>>7204612
Haven't had a ton of time to draw. Will try to do some more throughout the day.

>>7204648
I've looked for books in the past, but I ended up just finding packs and random reference throughout the years.
>>7204907
oo interesting rendering style. hard outlines, ethereal innards.
>sad ladies
yeah a bit of frumpy randoms that day
>>7205971
nice study
>>7205997
draw alot
>>7206025
>>7206028
>>7206169
>>7206171
>>7206174
>>7206179
good studies, keep it up!
>>7206482
nice. you should drill the connection between the shoulder/chest/arm/back
>>7207323
nice use of shortform marks for a quick sketch
>>7208041
very nice!
>>7208337
looks like a good study session to me. seems like you might be over thinking it. What are you expecting to happen as you take in the information? what do you think "getting it" will be like?

>>7208476
round two! more random horse pics. I liked the poses of the lumberjocks, so I think it still counts as figs.

>>7208579
those are lovely! very nice style

One

>>7208663
And another, got to draw a little after two terrible weeks, felt great, doesn't look this way tho.

>>7208579
That's a nice drawing of lumberjacks, is this from ref?

>>7208337
Hello there, fellow Hampton enjoyer!

>>7208583
Is this just a red pencil or some fancy thing?

"""figure""" drawings

>>7208667
It’s just a red pencil lol. It’s made by “the write dudes”

>>7208667
yee

been trying to do more studies again from a morpho head book, i'm not that happy with it but i'm glad i can have fun drawing again. mostly i feel like im bad at construction and thus cannot rely on it when adding face features.

>>7206025
Great stuff.

>>7205971
today, timed practice
Did some from imagination the day before, I feel much more confident now I have been doing figures consistently
>>7208337
Whenever I inject a new process into my own, it takes weeks, sometimes months to iron it out. Keep up the conscious effort.
>>7208476
>>7208579
you too, I like your dedication to get people involved
>>7208583
>>7208663
>>7208668
>>7208734
Good works

>>7208579
round three! I need more colored pencils, apparently. Saturday is a good day to draw!

>>7208583
a little stiff, but good job with the muscles!
>>7208663
>>7208667
looks like your line control is improving to me
>>7208668
looks great, good forms. She's gonna ruin those undies if she keeps stretching them like that.
>>7208734
having fun is one of the biggest hurdles for people, keep it up. If you are going to use building blocks (construction) it'd be good to drill your 3d shapes, boxes, cylinders, pyramids, etc. gotta have a good foundation to construct on top of.
>>7208754
nice some great stuff in here. Really dig the sweeping gestures on page 1. nice forms overall, good details on the longer study. I imagine the guy on the bottom left is holding a giant slug. It's always more fun when more people get involved, and I think anyone trying deserves a (you)

What can I do better for sub-ten minute drawings? I'm not trying to render at all, just get lines that express the structure.

>>7208794
how long do you spend on each of those pen figures on the right? Reference or no?

>>7208794
accuracy at the high/low angles is tough. need more practice.

>>7209610
I think you're on the right track. As long as you have enough marks to explain the 3d forms. You might try some cross contour lines to help explain the tilt/direction of the different masses.
>how long per sketch?
not sure, I don't normally time those. I'd guess something like 3-10min depending on complexity. for those I just start on an element and let the lines flow into the next shape, trying to judge proportions as I go.

>>7209683
Source on those refs on the right?

That cute red dyed hair girl from line of action.

>>7209684
female-anatomy-for-artist .com - Zaneta
or google "Mrs Pancake Model Zaneta"

the one of the girls back is from new masters academy - Jade

>>7209702
Did another one.
Also from line of action

>>7209769
Work on your line confidence anon

>>7209781
>confidence
Y-yeah!
It's been a while since I've drawn figures I hope that's the main issue here.
I've been working on a 2D game where it's not much organic going on yet mostly enviroments
Going to try and do some figures hands feet faces every evening.
Thanks for looking at my figure drawing <3

>>7208794
Cute!

really rushed ones

>>7210917
Fixed the shadow

>>7152421
going to be honest with you guys, I don't really understand gesture

I can't do anything beyond simple and incorrect figures.
I can draw a barely passable figure, but I can't seem to use said figure as a base for anything else. It's like I have to draw the character from scratch to be able to fully picture it and not make it look like I just traced a person and stuck a head on top of it.
Is this due to lack of imagination or practice?

>>7209683
ran out of time yesterday, but managed a little practice.

>>7209702
this one is quite nice. good hands/feet.
>>7209769
this one the proportions are a bit off. The hip connection is your weakest area.
>>7210463
thanks!
>>7210481
it's good to mix up fast/slow studies!
>>7210754
>>7210925
I recognize some of these models, good job using the poses, but keeping them stylized.
>>7211260
keep it up.
I know Proko is a bit of a meme around here, but his explanation is pretty good on gesture.
>https://youtu.be/74HR59yFZ7Y?si=fxyS1ONajohdCwmU&t=26
>>7211415
Most likely a practice issue. pyw. fill up them pages.

>>7211415
It's mostly practice.
>>7211260
It takes a lot of time. If you don't understand it feel free to move to construction and return to gesture later.
>>7211700
I'm trying I'm trying!

>>7211700
>this one the proportions are a bit off. The hip connection is your weakest area.
Good eye, I always struggle with the hips
>this one is quite nice. good hands/feet.
Thank you!
>>7211260
I think your gesture only starts to make sense once you start knowing what you're looking for.
It's not something you should be focusing too much on imo, it's def part of the package but it gets better as other parts start getting better aswell.
>>7211415
>>7211761
Drawing from imagination is a skill all on it's own, you need to practice it alongside copies.


Another one from line of action.

>>7210925
Tried to redline it a bit
Based for doing tonals.
Keep up the good work.

>>7211700
Always like how nice and flowy your lines are.

>>7211844
Thanks anon. Limbs in general and forearms in particular are my weakness.
I need to study them more.

>>7212462
>>7212463
>>7212458
>>7212459
>>7212461
Nice

need to work on values

How would you guys break down A into simple forms like B and C? And then move into more detail like D, but keeping the form-blocks clear?

>>7213836
I prefer the left approach with lots of wrapping lines but I can reconstruct a figure with boxes and cylinders. The problem is that boxes get stiff.

>>7213960
those both look totally formless and flat. You need to work more slowly & deliberately to achieve perspective consistency, right now it's very sloppy.

>>7213836
Post your own attempt first.

>>7213982
It's kinda smudged because I did a drawing on the back, but you get the idea

>>7213836
>>7213989
Maybe recheck the angles?
idk

>>7213981
ok

Some reference figs this time. Not unhappy with these overall.

>>7208476
>you should drill the connection between the shoulder/chest/arm/back
True, it's been a while since I actively studied any particular part of the body.

I'm a beginner and I want to get better at gesture, currently I'm alternating between copying poses from reference and drawing poses from imagination, about a minute each. Does that sound good? Am I missing something?

I have Hampton's book but I am nowhere near the level he wants me to be at before moving on

>>7214000
The torso and the pelvis are tilted. Check the landmarks.
Also checked.

I'm fucking stuck in the /beg/ limbo

>>7208754
still drawing, trying to digest this Huston arc and all my figures have been extra shitty
Some Bouguereau I indulged in
>>7208794 >>7209683
>>7211700
thanks, I think the gestures will work out long term if I can get them to translate to my long ones too.
>>7211829
nice balance, really solid
>>7211866
this came out really nice, lovely soft forms
>>7212458
nice work anon
>>7213547
these are great! Would you use a 4b or something or just want to press harder? Why not white pencil too if that's toned paper?
>>7213975
Nice work
>>7213989
good simplification
>>7214118
Very nice, can see the thinking about anatomy in these
>>7214663
You could post some pages and it will show us where you're at to give better advice. It really depends on what you know, and if practice should be that timed constrained etc.
>>7214744
Keep it up anon don't worry about labels like that

Am I on the right track with my gestures?

>>7154774
>>7154908
>>7192807

>>7203595
>>7206025
>>7208476
>>7209683

>Actually good

Fuck you guys in particular, I don't come here to see guys better than me...