/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

I'm just going to post this again

>>7162470

>>7162471

>>7162470
>>7162471
>>7162474
good morning /hmofa/

>>7162478
I'm not him

>>7162478
is hmofa legal here?

>>7162486
of course

Attempt at a femboy moose for a comic I am making.

folds

>>7162468
damn OP image barely passes rule 3. You love to see it though

Braixen!!

>>7162494
good drawing
but he still looks too masculine for a femboy

>>7162561
Thanks.
I wanted him to retain some masculine traits, he goes for a girl in the story after all.

>>7162513
well, if i get banned so be it.

goofy aaahh meme

Mommy Tanuki designs commission. Post 1/2

>>7162711
Also mommy cat

finished up a comm yesterday

well this thread is off to a horny start UwU

>>7162474

>>7162861
Well let's keep it going then. Excuse the censorship loincloth.
Sticking to cel-shading from now on. Rendering sucks.

>>7162712
very cute!

>>7162692
this one is awesome too

responding to >>7162352 in previous thread.
Your art's good dude, don't be hard on yourself.

somebody said they wanted to see something like this
i wanna kiss him on the mouth
>>7162494
Good morning, femboy moose
>>7162535
Good morning, braixen

>>7163101
made for breeding O.O

well, if we're going lewd
https://files.catbox.moe/drnjx6.png

>>7163101
Dude, did you buy a tabler or you already have it?

>i wanna kiss him on the mouth
Me neither and maybe h******d him

>>7163183
I already have it for a while, I just like the pencil more.
Also I'm unsure what h******d so I'm just gonna hope it's something nice.

>>7163206
>I already have it for a while, I just like the pencil more.
Oh, i can see it now. But think that a tablet makes your drawing looks better cuz it gives more opportunities.
Also, as alternative you can buy a scanner for sketches and don't just take pics from your phone, it just looks a bit messy.

>Also I'm unsure what h******d so I'm just gonna hope it's something nice.
An hand thing

>>7163247
I like my phone pics.

>>7163149
O.O UwU o.O ;)

What's a good resource for a complete beg to start drawing kemono and other types of heavily stylized furries? Something like the typical "anime head construction" (Loomis lite if you will) but for furries?

Yiff in hell, furfags!

>>7163149
vaush pov

>>7162711
>>7162712
Holy shit, blog?

>>7163455
Somebody give this man the manga furries book

bunny look like monkeh

>>7162899
The legs and feet you did very well! I'm quite impressed. Especially the knees and that part on the other side of them, DAMN! GOD DAMN! But i think the one discrepancy that I'm noticing has to due with the head and neck. I think the neck muscles should connect to the back of the head instead of the head kind of just cutting into the neck and sitting on top of it, if you see what I mean. It looks kinda flat there in the area on the back of her neck. But overall it's just some healthy criticism, you did a great job :)

>>7163538
Dios mio, anything but that.

>>7163547
Thanks. To be honest with you, it doesn't feel like I did a good job at all. I think the whole piece is actually pretty representative of my own regression. I'm not sure what's going on, but I'm stuck. Or I've peaked, and now I just stagnate forever in mediocrity.
As for the back, yeah, I'm not great with back anatomy. I did omit the trapezius somewhat. Oh well. I'll keep it in mind for next time, if there is one.

>>7163543
blog? need that racoonussy in my life

>>7163466
nta but here's his blog
https://twitter.com/jamilsart

>>7162470

Bros, I'm so goddamn exhausted but I need to get these drawings done. I'm going to die. Can someone stick their finger into my butthole and tickle it so I can cum. It'll help me sleep easier tonight.
>>7162712
I have nothing to say. Just wanted to be part of the replies.
>>7162535
I will destroy Braixen!
>>7162899
Share you blog!
>>7163149
I'd suck that dick.
>>7163742
I like the way the ass came out, but for some reason when colored it looks less appealing to me? I'm not sure why, but it feels something is lacking.

>>7163751
> but for some reason when colored it looks less appealing to me?
This is how I feel about most of my stuff, good to have it confirmed by another person. Maybe I'm just bad with color, and it doesn't seem to get better.

>>7163755
I'm not familiar with colors, so I can't help you there. However, when I do play with colors, applying crazy gradients presets found on the CSP store page, or even adjusting the Opacity of the layer I'm coloring on always provides some really interesting color choices.

>>7163561
Cheer up, sport. We've all been there, but you just gotta remember where you came from and where you are now. Realizing that is important, because you remember the risks you took and the experiments you did to get better. Sometimes I wonder what my past self would say of he saw the art I make today, or if he would even believe that he would go on to be able to do stuff like that. That's what it's all about in my opinion.
And don't forget this slogan: "WAGMI"

Got a promotion a few months back and it's been eating at my free time with all this 'non-mandatory' overtime. Finally got a chance to draw properly. Someone made some fan art of my character a while back so I gave them this gift in return. Hopefully I haven't gone too rusty.

>>7162899
I think you've done a fantastic job at the shading. I really like the faint hatching peering through to help give even more volume than just using colors. It's not a technique I often see and it turned out well!

>>7163755
>>7163755
I'm not terribly good with colors either but I think I could offer some guidance.

Your flats are really unsaturated and luminous, which gives this unappealing washed out and dead look. Everything is so close to pure white it messes with the contrast.

Don't be afraid to darken the colors, especially in digital where monitors are going to lighten them up a bit anyways.

>>7163751
>Share you blog!
It's me, THE https://www.furaffinity.net/user/wistfulporpoise.. You follow me on Twits but I don't post art there anymore, RIP.

>>7163761
I guess I just feel like I'm falling back to where I came from. Some days it feels like I'm making great progress, and then I look at what I've actually done and it feels less-than. Especially this year. Dunno what's going on in my noggin.

>>7163767
>I really like the faint hatching peering through
Thank you, I cheated. It's just a default CSP wood grain texture set on Overlay and clipped to the shadow layer. I bamboozled you.

>>7163769
I'll keep this in mind for the next panel, thanks for the tip

>>7163770
>It's me
Oh hey! Well damn, didn't know you have a furaffinity. I may have to make an account there soon enough. I've just been lazy/busy.

>>7163781
Just FA and bluesky for now, yeah. If you have a bluesky yourself drop it so I can follow you there too.
Always happy to see your bird.

So bros, how do I stop hating my own art?

>>7163794
Post your work so we can hate it for you.

>>7163794
You don't, is that simple!

>>7163794
first step is realising your artistic ability does not dictate your worth as a human

>>7163803
I have to post crop cause jannies

>>7163460
lol. my characters are 18+, though.

>>7163751
you and me both, brother

>>7163794
I think we all get that feeling from time to time, but your artwork looks good just from the thumbnail. catbox so we can see the full thing

>>7163824
>I think we all get that feeling from time to time, but your artwork looks good just from the thumbnail. catbox so we can see the full thing
https://files.catbox.moe/y2f31k.png

>>7163751
>>7163770
>>7163781
>>7163786
Birdgummies simps in shambles

>>7163810
The rest of the world begs to differ.
They don’t know you personally, sex offenders like Valavari are still friends with big anthro/kemono artists like Vimhomeless and Smeckbo be able they’re insanely talented and you will be called lazy and compared to Andrew Dobson if your own art isn’t an Asian-tier Fdokkaku masterpiece. Crabs exist because most of the higher breeds control sheep and can be sheep themselves

>>7163829
>The rest of the world begs to differ.
>They don’t know you personally, sex offenders like Valavari are still friends with big anthro/kemono artists like Vimhomeless and Smeckbo be able they’re insanely talented and you will be called lazy and compared to Andrew Dobson if your own art isn’t an Asian-tier Fdokkaku masterpiece. Crabs exist because most of the higher breeds control sheep and can be sheep themselves
then just keep on hating yourself
good luck

>>7163829
you sound terminally online with that take ngl dude
it isnt healthy to look at things like that

>>7163827
well, tell us what you like and hate about it. you must have some sort of reasoning

>>7163829
>Birdgummies simps in shambles
I just want to jerk it to my favorite artists' work :[

>>7163751
Spread those butt cheeks. Sir Anal is coming to the party.

this thread is getting more and more lewd
look out!

Sir, another lewd has hit the thread

https://files.catbox.moe/fyqmxm.png
https://files.catbox.moe/jq2gqo.png
https://files.catbox.moe/l655cb.png

>>7163956
Pretty cute! Gallery?

>failed artist uses img2img/inpainting and an AI model super-focused on a specific style to fool 2k twitter followers in a week

>>7163827
Give her more appealing titties

>>7163829
birdgummies simps >>>>>>>>>>>> dogmaw simps

>>7163956
WHOA MOMMA!!
Supremely good.

But there's a cookie missing

>>7164088
namefags...

Surfs up!

>>7164149
Why she got no bottoms on.

>>7164088
I wish I had reverse-simps who would tell me how much my work sucked so I could improve...

>>7164156
I don't think there's a lot of value to be gained from a drive by "u suck" post.

>>7164158
That's not a reverse-simp, that's just a dummy. I meant someone who will obsess over my work in the same way simps do, but instead of constant, meaningless praise, they'll say things like, "You can do better waists than that. Did you even account for her pelvis in 3D space? Where the fuck is the iliac crest? Did you center the form? I didn't expect someone like you to make such amateur mistakes."
You know, like a tsundere fan. "It's not like I like your work or anything, I just think you shouldn't settle for being worse than anyone else, baka!"

>>7164162

A fledgling artist asks a tsundere artist for advice and the tsundere starts having feelings wouldn't be the WORST concept I've ever read in a manga...

>>7163840
“That troon raped animals and groomed kids over Discord but apparently he was popular for being a heckin’ wholesome citizen and not because his art was godly”

Step into the real world for once. Maybe if you spent even a fraction of your time there that you spend getting sucked off by Beezii on Xitter, you’d know the internet isn’t your friend

>>7164173
What the fuck are you talking about

>>7164181
Apparently a trans furry artist got arrested a couple years ago after admitting to ERPing with kids and having sex with a horse.
Said artist is close friends with Smekbo/isatorus and other highly regarded kemofurries that Anon idolizes

>>7163961
"WhiteV" on any website with a pulse

>>7164107
I knew someone would make that joke lol. Unfortunately I'm not really into that

>>7164282
>I knew someone would make that joke lol. Unfortunately I'm not really into that
It's all good, anonymous. Keep up the great work.

>>7162512
How are you this talented?
You’re self-taught, got here within 3 years, and it’s instantly recognizable and better than every single artist here.
Are you moots with Pasong and pizademo? Are you actually Japanese?

I need to know everything. It hurts me looking at your work, I get a horrible pain in my chest knowing I will never be you. I can’t take it, I want this to be what I’m capable of and nothing else, with the same flow and inhumanly perfect linework. I will cut my limbs off, sell my kidneys, gauge an eye out, I don’t care what it takes. I’ve thrown up from the insecurity, please God let me have this

>>7163742

>>7164302
i played a ton of fighting games in the years prior, which i think gave me a good idea of “learning how to learn”. ive also taught and coached before, so i think a lot of that also plays into the whole knowing how to structure my studying stuff.

i think anyone can do what i did, and probably do a lot better, even, given that i wasted a lot of time myself with some inefficient resources and resource-hunting. people are getting better at stuff all the time, and theyre getting better at it faster, too. people mogged me in fighting games in less than half the time because their access to resources was just way better. im only just starting to get to properly painting and putting clothes on my characters, so i think my hard focus on constructive drawing, anatomy, and shape language has helped me make up some of that time.

im trying to make a structured guide that ill put out at some point. i started with peter hans dynamic sketching videos, proko gesture, and copying my favorite artists a lot. especially tenpura, who i usually watch stream and drawalong with every time i get the chance. picrel, seeing their process, what shapes they use to construct with, etc is really helpful

i would say if you want convincing kemo style stuff, put a lot of points into line confidence and studying the shapes your favorite artists use; pay particular attention to proportion. accuracy is key - which is something a lot of art regimens, like bargue, impress early on. id watch that one krenz lecture too, which i can link later if you want.

if youre obsessed with kemono and copy it faithfully snd critically, youll come to understand how its drawn. its not magic. trace if you have to, just to build up confidence in the fact that your hands are capable of doing it. i believe in you, anon

>>7163926
l-l-l-lewd!
>>7164557
fighting game chad.

>>7163956
Anthros would be awful cooks. Getting their fur into all the food. Just disgusting.

>>7164752
the hairy italian dude that makes me pizzas has some hair falling in sometimes
it adds more flavor i have found
so anthros would be great cooks, more fur = more flavor

>>7164752
tfw you have to insist yourfurry wife wears a full-body hair net when she cooks
tfw it's kind of hot...

>>7164302
are you me?
I've been at this since 2009, about to end it all soon

>>7164765
Post your work. I wanna see!

>>7164778
I already whined in this thread
>>7163827

>>7164302
>latinx appealfagslop
>better than every single artist here
You're blind, baby. You're blind from the facts on who you are 'cause you're watchin' that garbage.

>>7164557
Thanks for the leeway. I’ll follow it to the letter. Bless you
[quote]I’ll retrace every step down to your FGC history. What games did you compete in?[/quote]

>>7164820
I’m white. Is it bad to focus on stylistic appeal above the technical side or is that referring to something else?
I’ve seen beginners with minimal technical skill who still gain a lot of attention for their art just being stylistically soulful. Most of them are Japanese or Brazillian, usually in little obscure corners of Pixiv and Newgrounds

>>7164846
I played Guilty gear Xrd and Blazblue mostly. I still do gesture practice with those games' keyposes. Gl

this has been sitting in my wips folder for a month, i have 0 dedication. i have a shameful wip collage i update every month to remind me that i cannot commit to my art. it's not even that i'm unsatisfied with what i draw, i just can't finish anything. i actually really like this one.

i will never take commissions because of this, despite people constantly asking.

how do i stop this? every time i draw, i just get another idea and immediately drop what i was drawing previously.

>>7164797
>>7163827
Personally, I see nothing wrong with your works. I think it's fine. Granted, I don't like the way the boobs work there, but that's just me.
But your discouragement might come from seeing other's work and feeling you've on the wrong path. With that mindset, I'd suggest finding your favorite artists work and try to fanart it as best as possible. Naoki Saito has a video on this. In short; just try your best to Mimic your favorite artists (only one artists), and upon your failing you'll tumble upon your own style that has more appeal because you were aiming towards your inspirations.

>>7164871
I appreciate it man, I really do. Sadly I don't know what artist I would even consider my favourite, the folder in which I collect art I like is so vastly diversified it's hard to find a common artstyle. I guss I would have to sift through it and find what I like most but I'm not sure where I would even start there.
As for boobs on that Loona, technically she is supposed to be leaning back so her boobs go sideways but I guess I didn't pronounce that enough.

>>7164887
>As for boobs on that Loona, technically she is supposed to be leaning back so her boobs go sideways but I guess I didn't pronounce that enough.
In that case, the lean back isn't clear in this image. But, it isn't because you failed to do the lean back properly. In 2D, you'll NEED to exaggerate the pose, and there will be times where in order to fix it, you just need to exaggerate it even more. Don't be afraid to break the anatomy, as an appealing pose can save a bad drawing.
>Sadly I don't know what artist I would even consider my favourite
Sounds like the problem is an overwhelming amount of choices. Thing is, if you jump around from all inspirations, you keep starting all over. You don't even have to pick up a pencil, this effects your Eye judgement just by seeing the artwork. This is why you may not see progress. It's ideal to select that One artists and follow their path in hopes to obtain Some of their style. Upon failing, when you do stumble upon your style, the beauty behind that is you'll have a more proficient knowledge on style, it'll then be easier to shift from one style to another.

>>7164904
>Thing is, if you jump around from all inspirations, you keep starting all over. You don't even have to pick up a pencil, this effects your Eye judgement just by seeing the artwork. This is why you may not see progress. It's ideal to select that One artists and follow their path in hopes to obtain Some of their style
that is going to be the hardest thing to do.... guess I have a lot of stuff to think about and to do. I should probably categorize it all by artists but with the amount of the pictures I have it's gonna be hard. Thank you for the new perspective on this though, I hope I can use it somehow, picking stuff and making decisions is my greatest failing I would say.

>>7162711
Don’t forget to hug your mum and tell her how much you appreciate her.

>>7164947
Really nice sagging breasts. Perfectly plump. Would treat her with plenty of cat food and marshmallows.

months in the making
https://files.catbox.moe/tym4ca.png

>>7164860
there is no easy answer to this, besides discipline
motivation is temporary, discipline is what helps you finish things

>>7164827
Cool lizard.

>>7164871
Okay but what if someone just wants THAT style? (IE >>7164848 )
Two artists can be equally good, but I’ve never seen a single westerner in my life other than him who can draw in a style that looks so convincingly eastern that I couldn’t discern him from Japanese artists.
No amount of hundreds of anime imitators have ever fooled me before except for this guy. It’s unreal

>>7164088
why am I being named dropped

Can a brother get feedback on the anatomy and drawing in general? Ended up not using ref for the pose and I feel like it's looking a bit awkward. Besides, thinking where to put 4 arms is becoming too difficult for me and it's getting harder to see the mistakes.

>>7165290
honestly theres really nothing "wrong" its just an execution lack rn. just keep drawing : )

>>7165282
>>7165334
Kemono nerds in swirly glasses are god-tier.
Blog?

>>7165334
i love your shape language

>>7165347
thank you !
>>7165345
i got one but I dont post much : )

does anybody know how to draw poppy playtime catnap?

>>7164340
The colors looking a lot better, good work

>>7165270
I’ve been thinking about making a thread on this if the question doesn’t have an easy answer, but even taking the mediocre ones into account, what is it about Japanese art styles that makes them so distinct?

I’ve been watching a lot of TukaretaINU and it’s trying to go for a humorously ugly Adult Swim-esc style while still clearly looking natively Japanese.

Even professional western artists like in shows like Teen Titans and Avatar have something in the artstyle that looks just off enough to tell that it’s not really Japanese while a lot of Asian kids just starting out with MS Paint scribbles still draw Pokemon in a way American adults can’t quite capture. Why is that?

My insecurity has always been that certain art is “Japan-coded”, like you can tell the cultural background of someone just based on something as seemingly small as linework.
I’ll dig around for more examples and post as I find them

>>7165282
>>7165334
Do you draw Gurler? It looks similar

>>7162468
how to anthro head?

>>7165473
howie
execute this anon

the whole "muh japanese art style" people are so tiresome
imagine if you put that autistic obsession into actually drawing, how much you could improve

>"I just copied and studied my fav jap artist"
>"wow but how did you get such a distincly eastern style?"
>"I told you, i just studied eastern artists"
>"Wow you must be naturally talented to be able to make art looking so japanese..."
>"Bro, I just studied japanese artists, its not magic"
>"But how do you do that?"
>*proceeds to explain study method*
>"Wow how can you even achieve that when other artists still look so western?"
its all so tiresome with these people

>>7165611
wrong thread kike

>>7165605
He actually drew something. Ergo, not howie.

>>7165619
go back to pol

>>7165620
a howie isnt about not drawing, its about asking endless questions avoiding obvious answers even when given directly

>>7165624
>asked a single question
>posted his work directly related to the question
>did not avoid answers (on the account of not being given any but still)
not howie

>>7165611
Why do white artists alway fuck up copying it though?
Out of the hundreds of westoids copying anime I see every day on social media and art sites, only one made work that authentically looks like it was made by a mangaka and could convince me he was east Asian.
Everything else either looks like an out of touch How2Draw Manga book, Class of 09, or a MikeyMegaMega tutorial. Sure the latter is technically skilled but he lacks the eastern talent for his “anime girls” to actually look like real anime

>>7165627
Because westoids are brought up on westoid media that leaves irreparable damage.

>>7165627
stop this east vs west shitposting right the fuck now

>>7165270
>but I’ve never seen a single westerner in my life other than him who can draw in a style that looks so convincingly eastern that I couldn’t discern him from Japanese artists.
Sounds like you've never seen anime before nor understand how Anime is developed. Because of this, it's hard to break down how exactly you should approach this cause you come off sounding like a complete beg. Finish Loomis, then we can talk.

>>7165282
>why am I being named dropped
cause you a nerd

>>7165611
Agreed. This idea is majorly stupid. I studied one master and used to draw very similarly to him, but have since deviated and grown. Wow, who would have guessed? I chose not to study eastern art because I dont want to be random eastern artist #5747838573838 with no variation in my style to distinguish me from the rest ((here's your answer >>7165627)
which, any creative variation you make, since you aren't genetically asian, would get you called westoid). If someone wants to create unique drawings, they should not be flamed for it.

Another example is realism obsession. The exact same problem: you arent a real artist unless you can become a camera and do nothing fun with art ever (these people completely ignoring the fact that art creation is about expression).

This whole eastern/western artist drama is bell curve behavioir. "I'll draw what I want!"-> "Nooooo eastern artist waifus I need to draw eastern"->I'll draw what I want!" Just draw and stop obsessing with perfectly mimicking your style to fit the cookie cutter "eastern" mold.

>>7165696
>This whole eastern/western artist drama is bell curve behavioir. "I'll draw what I want!"-> "Nooooo eastern artist waifus I need to draw eastern"->I'll draw what I want!" Just draw and stop obsessing with perfectly mimicking your style to fit the cookie cutter "eastern" mold.
nailed it

>>7165473
Like this bro

Drew a buddies croc OC

>>7165456
what is that

any tips for female torso and hips? I get filtered.

>>7165334
Glad that there's not a big mistake in the drawing. Thanks anon!

>>7165473
use this site;'

https://x6ud.github.io/#/

>>7165473
>>7165796
I’ll be honest, I like the original sketch more than the redline

>>7166426
Probably because it looks closer to being Japanese than the diet Disneyslop

>>7165678
The problem is that I’ve seen too many anime. All the little intricacies, angles, lines, sketchwork, etc that Japanese concept artists use are familiar enough to me that non-asians trying to replicate it is extremely obvious to me.
Yuto >>7162512 is the only one I’ve seen crack the code and make it work, which is why I’m hung up on his art specifically, especially from how far he got in a short amount of time

western>eastern by far in the case of furry art, generally. Don't know what you're all on about. Kemono usually feels counterfeit in comparison. That redline is better without doubt.

Drew this on a whim today

latest rita fuckage https://files.catbox.moe/exa14g.jpg

also i don't really know how to feel about someone with 75k followers posting the pic on their twitter. sure they credited me, but didn't link anywhere. i just started using twitter myself and could've used the 1k likes they got on my pic...
(clout clout yada yada)

>>7166589
good job Kettu. Yeah it sucks when someone does this but honestly I wouldn't know what to do, never happened to me. I have never got 1k likes since I started my own lmao

>>7166599
thanks. also looks like it's just someone posting almost anything from e621 popular pages.

>>7166515
>sexual harassment
Heh

>>7165796
Thanks, this helps a lot.

>>7165250
thank u

>>7166515
After seeing the absolute insanity with some furfags on the net, I think "sexual harassment" applies to BOTH

>>7166487
>realism

Gross. The only good western anthro art is when it’s heavily stylized. It’s only good when there’s toon appeal and it’s still extremely difficult to make work

>>7165825
>forgot the CROCS

>>7165054
Usually, do you manually make the blending by color picking, or do you prefer to use a blender?

>>7166672
But then you wouldn't see her cute little toes.

>>7166938
>bird enthusiast
>implying he's into plantigrade feet

>>7166662
Lol it's true. but this makes me think, and I really don't want people to think that I'm sexual harassment. Because I actually am against sex and the such.

>>7166967
>I actually am against sex and the such.
you are against seggx?
why?

>>7166984
Sorry, I meant against drawing it.

How do I draw an anthro seal?

>>7167000
you could do it like how people draw anthro sharks: make the bottom flippers into a tail and give normal humanoid characteristics for basically everything else

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=anthro+shark&t=brave&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images

>>7166589
i love you mister foxe

>>7167000
I think you're applying too much human anatomy to it. The picture on the right looks more like a human wearing one of those mermaid suits with how the "legs" bend.
Here is the skeleton of a seal which as you can see the legs are much shorter and yeah I think it speeks for itself

>>7167011
>I think you're applying too much human anatomy to it.
>anthro seal

I haven't been feeling too creatively inspired lately. I may start trying to sketch with gouache soon

>>7167137
You wanna get clocked or some shit?

>>7166715
depends. usually manual because i feel i have more control over it, but sometimes a blender is just easier. i want to stop blending so much desu

>>7167215
nigga... this btfos most of the people already with the quality

just finished practicing today

>>7167247
Thanks! I'm not satisfied yet with what I'm drawing with skill wise, but who is?

>>7167215
i haven't been involved in the threads a lot lately so sorry if you have before, but you got social links to post? You're legit.

>>7167002
>>7167011
Thanks! Def gonna try to make her legs a bit shorter.

TOTAL FURRY DEATH

>>7167225
after you
>>7167363
and return of two the doomers here on this thread.
>>7167271
blog please

>>7167382
Get lost bro, you're bitching and you weren't even the one receiving the suggestion.

>>7167363
born for catgirls
forced to furfag

More Braixen!

>>7166589
that one anon is not gonna like this

>>7167382
twitter.com/doIdraw
although i barely upload stuff, might just start doing it

WIP Aztec lizard queen

>>7167481
the one who thinks this thread is SFW by choice?

>>7166589
LifeIsBeautiful-esque

>>7167573
>>7166589
Oh yeah, and I forgot to mention, it's breaking the "Unite Comrades!" Complex.

>>7167551
she cute, very good

>>7167573
>>7167574
im not following

Lemur gal commission

>>7162773
and part 2!

>>7167551
I love her

>>7167363
Go to the anime thread or something then. What are you even doing? You just want "generic anime girl" face plus cute cat ears which isn't remotely in the spirit of furry and imo looks aesthetically wrong.

>>7167551
need we state this thread’s opinions on lizards
leave

>>7168050
whats the problem with lizards?
did a muscle lizard futa cuck you and now youre mad?

>>7168050
nta, but dumbest take I've seen in awhile. I'll assume this is big brain reverse psychology and you actually want more scalies posted. I'll draw one just for you next time.

>>7168186
You think you're so smart. If you were so smart you wouldn't draw a fat goblin ass, because you're so smart. Also I hate goblins, I never want to see goblins in these threads ever. Do NOT draw goblins.

>>7168201
oh, yeah, punk? guess what? Now I'm gonna draw a ton of thicc, wet, sloppy shortstack scalies and goblin girls for my next piece! you'll get what you(we) deserve!

>>7167363

>>7168220
give the goblin a dick

>>7168186
please draw me a lizard im begging
at night i dream of my lizard wife loving me

>>7168272
Why are you so mad at lizards, anon? I don't think you should be mad at lizards.

What’s in your sketchbook lately anons? You DO keep a sketchbook, right?

>>7168278
I do but there's nothing as cute as that in it it's mostly just old dudes and ladies posing in the nude because I gotta grind.

>>7168278
I only draw digital

hey /fag/, hope you've all been keeping at it. haven't posted much personal art as of late, but here's a WIP

>>7168278
insanely cute

>>7168341
Wanna hang out with this badger.

>>7168278
Not a physical one.
Anime heads filter me SO hard bros. My brain is TOO SMOOTH for Loomis.

>>7168346
That's a fine lookin' gobbo

>>7168346
very nice gobbo

>>7168348
>>7168349
Thank you! That means a lot because I really struggled with her lmao.
I copied all the gobbos from this, and this pic was the result of my training.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii0BiZIykh0

I want to see everyone's gobbos.

are trolls invading the gen again?

>>7168346
Sorry but Goblins aren't furry, you have to go.

>>7168392
They're furry adjacent, and I'm going to give her a tail and claws before she's done.

>>7168341
eternally mogged. this is amazing!

>>7168404
you're ain't foolin' everybody!

>>7166589
I love your style but I am not a fan of fortune cookies. That's the main reason I stopped looking at SmittyG's art but I know it's a matter of preference. Keep up the good work

>>7168432
ESL-anon, nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

>>7168034
um listen here h*man: she is covered in white fur and thus is by definition furry. also something something anime site (not that anyone thinks 4cuck has anything to do with anime these days)

>>7168278
I usually draw on a sketchbook when I can. Obviously this is digital. But when I use/find brushes, I always try to find a generic pen type brush since those are the types I mainly use when drawing on me lil tiny sketchbook filled with birds.

>>7168440
ELS-anon? Who that?

Good morning, my flock! The Channel is showing me a commercial of a woman's feet, and it says "free onlyfans". Should I bite? Also, here's my slop

>>7165825
Don't tell your friend that I said this, but I don't think that's a gator... Where's his big snout? Lol
>>7162773
>>7167980
Good morning, Cow-Anon! Wow, you must've made a Pretty Penny off of this one. Nicely done!
>>7168341
Good morning, Kino-Anon! Good to see that you're still in the /biz/!
>>7168346
Good morning, Bat-Anon! Unfortunately this isn't a furry so you can't post him here, but it looks good!
>>7168432
Good morning, ESL-Anon!
>>7168436
hello
>>7168446
Good morning, Racist-Anon! Very cute cat, but let's keep the chud rage to a minimum.
>>7168467
Good morning, Bird-Anon!

>>7168539
>this isn't a furry
https://e621.net/posts?tags=goblin+female+-male

Well well well. How the turn tables.
And she is very clearly a girl.

>>7168542
Oh, sorry! Sometimes I can't distinguish the difference between the pronouns "she" and "he" so I accidentally call things girls when they're boys. And vice versa.

decided i cant be bothered to fix the linework or the rights face. giving up

I bet some of you anons feel VERY silly right now.

>>7168567
If I take that mask off, will she die?

>>7168569
It would be very cute.

>>7168570
For you

>>7168278
How it started vs how it’s going.

>>7168595
The ears and hair are my faovrites.

>>7168567
>>7168432

>>7168436
>>7168539
These are funny n cute
>Captcha My Vuck!

>>7168703
>cunny

riot leaked a bunny girl character
bunny enjoyers, we gonna be eating good

>>7168793
We talking actual bnuuy, bnuuy monstergirl or girl in bnuuy outfit?

from a couple months ago. idk where i'm going with this

>>7168567
cute beak

>>7168539
>>7168427
>>7168344
many thanks anons, i really appreciate it

>>7168800
she looks like that redhead with glasses form persona but half human half bunny
basically Xaya with bunny instead of bird

>>7168866
wont stop me from making her full rabbit instead of 50/50 tho

>>7168278
>You DO keep a sketchbook, right?
I don't, I escaped to digital since traditional was inconvenient

I give up, goodbye anons. Hope you guys make it.

>>7168910
Don't give up anon

>>7168910
Cya tomorow anon!

>>7168910
pyw, anon. something that shows what you don't like and need help on. and why do you want to give up?

>>7168845
#ILoveYouDontLeaveJustYetBruh...

I feel as though my third eye was opened yesterday. Apologies for not posting anything. I had a theory for a few months and it wasn't until I spoke to an artist I've admired for many years, someone who I respect a lot that confirmed my suspicion into fact.

Construction drawing, details ect. Don't really matter, none of that matters. Drawing methods are gimmicky these days, they served their purpose to train students or apprentices but we're way past that era, we have so much information now that I don't think one specific drawing style is a good approach, it's better to learn all of them to remain situational but I'm digressing.

Silhouette is the only thing that actually matters , people call this "Shape Language" but that's only part of it. If you want to capture a good likeness of someone when you're doing a portrait make sure the silhouette is on point. Meaning you include the entire contour (hat, hair, neck, collar) as one shape. You break these into silhouettes within silhouettes but the major all encompassing one has to look like that subject or no amount of detail fixing will matter. It's turd polish at best.

You've probably seen sinix videos talk about how he's anti constructionist and I've slowly become this way over the years. Many years ago when I used to watch artists like Sunibee paint, they would draw a huge silhouette dark then paint inside it and they'd nail it immediately. I was amazed and wish I recorded these but i remember that tidbit vividly and now I understand why.

Marco Bucci mentions something similar but i think he doesn't emphasize it's importance enough. It's not just important it's vital to making your work look good. If it doesn't look like the character as a contour shape you still have a ways to go to understand it within your minds eye.

not reading all that

>>7169148
Good post. it sounds retarded but "feel" is much more important in creating a compelling image- if you stick too rigidly to the academic method rather than focusing on what you want to communicate, your process can become sorta wooden.

>>7169259
Wouldn't that be a good thing though if you wanted to draw wood?

>>7169290
>he thinks wood can't have character
ngmi

>>7169148
i've been thinking about this recently too. its like, you have to learn construction and gesture and perspective and all that stuff, the fundies to get yourself out of beg-core, but then you almost have to go backwards in a way to rediscover "appeal" once you learn how to draw. its like now that you have some informed drawing ability, you rebuild your symbolic representations with that to create something that is actually nice to look at.

>>7169299
Or in other words, you have to learn the rules in order to break them effectively.

>>7169259
Feel is a very ambiguous term but I understand what you mean by it. Feeling a form, feeling a shape or space. The idea is basically the same. You're feeling out a silhouette. This is essentially what children are trying to do when they first learn how to draw and honestly it's the right intuition. Construction is a very long winded way to get to that point, it makes sense for a specific type of consistency but you quickly become stuck in a rut.

>>7169299
Yeah exactly you essentially have to learn all this stuff to know what to throw out. It's wild how much I've done construction just to not need to do it.

>>7168824
He's a cool dude who doesn't afraid of anything.

I like his uniform. Is it inspired by Naked Snake? Maybe draw him sneaking around in a jungle or wading through a shallow river.

>>7168824
Super noice, blog??

>>7164340

>>7169426

>>7169428
>>7162493

>>7169297
>wood is a character
Draw wood sucking my dick and we'll call it even.

>>7169426
>>7169428
coom apart, the plot of this comic is pretty cute

>>7162512
What was that Krenz lecture you mentioned?
I need some hope injected directly into my spine.
I threw up from sheer stress and insecurity looking at your art. It’s going to be a long road

Also
>>7169148
Which anon is saying this?
Do I have to ignore construction to be Yuta? It was worded like one of his last replies

>>7169564
FagAnon here, I said it.

>>7169567
Anon, we're all fags here...

>>7169564
You don't ignore construction, it's a tool to help you see how to build forms in space. Once you're very comfortable you should know the outlines of those forms without needing any construction. The idea is to internalize stuff.

>>7169430
Hot.

>>7168539
>let's keep the chud rage to a minimum.
NOO TOTAL FURRY DEATH!!! TOTAL CHUD VICTORY!!! TFDTFDTFDTFDTFDTFD

>>7169567
Okay I can ignore your advice but I highly appreciate your honesty.

I’m afraid of taking advice from the wrong people and ending up with an ugly westoid style from either ignoring something important or paying attention to something useless

>>7169602
I don't really think the west or eastern styles are better then one another. If it wasn't for Disney anime wouldn't really exist. There are things I dislike heavily about eastern styles and a lot about western styles. Just take what's good from everywhere..

>>7169615
Why should I settle for your mediocre examples when Koreans exist?

>>7169622
Draw the way YOU want. Whatever makes you happy. I like Korean artists. I practice a lot of techniques. Rock He Kim for example I do a lot of my figure practice from invention that way.

>>7169626
What if only one style would make me happy?
Is it possible not to settle for anything else?

>>7169148
U shouldn't have posted this, now people will know the truth. But for real though, construction (boxes and shit) is by far the biggest trap ever made. Take the blobpill /beg/anons, before your brain goes full constructoid

>>7169672
I antiquate doing construction similar to working out. Drawing box people or gestures, things of that nature is akin to running, doing push ups. You're just training your spatial intelligence. You wouldn't really want to sketch or draw that way its too restrictive. Like you do all that exercise but eventually you want to get in the ring if you want to box.

>>7169676
>if you want to "box"
hehe

>>7169672
>>7169676
You should probably post your work to go with claims like these.
If highbreeds can flex their output without the thing every school and tutorial tells you to use, you better have the results to back it up.
At least 90% of this board is suicidal over Loomis. I don’t want uncertainty when that could be all for nothing

>>7169686
God I fucking hate Loomis.

>>7169686
>>7169654

>>7169691
https://youtu.be/emaouqAnoKs?si=64Yw5_4WyFtIlFfB

>>7169691
this isnt me but hes right for the most part.

>>7169654
What did she mean by this?
Captcha: XDDJ

>>7169148
>Meaning you include the entire contour (hat, hair, neck, collar) as one shape. You break these into silhouettes within silhouettes but the major all encompassing one has to look like that subject or no amount of detail fixing will matter. It's turd polish at best.
Turbo beg here, what resources/videos that can help with learning shape language or "silhouette" thing you're talking about?
I'm honestly torn on construction, but many anons say that as long as you get the shapes "right" it'll get your point across in a drawing more than anything.

I'm just confused.

>>7169711
Not the same anon but I was introduced to the concept through this video: https://youtu.be/8wm9ti-gzLM

I’m still waiting for genuinely good art to back up the claim of construction and rules being bad.
There’s a thing that I forgot the word for, “illusion of freedom” or something like that, that choices become harder the more options you have, that more limitations and rules ironically make you more creative

>>7168435
Thanks! Yea i get it.

look at my fursona

>>7170018
ignore text, just showing my animation

>>7170021

Hi, any critique or advice ?

>>7170075
Face looks a little stiff, but I like it. Would love to see it coloured.

>>7167215
Very nice ! What did you practice to get these kinds of results ? Figure drawing and anatomy ?

>>7170083
Any idea how I could improve that ?

>>7167215
lovely work

>>7170110
I draw a lot from imagination. The idea is to try and force myself to invent poses out of my head. I use these forms to try and understand spatial relationships. It's not a way or "system" of drawing. Drawing systems are IMO a scam people use to sucker others out of their money.

>>7169686
I doodle pretty much straight on, I don't construct much. The shapes matter more then anything.

>>7170207
nta, but /beg/ nonetheless and very curious. are you just visualizing the forms when putting the lines to paper and if so, does having a base understanding of construction help you get to that skill level easier? One of my inspirational artists uses silhouettes when sketching/drafting (but not all the time since they can just put lines to paper and make amazing figures) and I've been having a really hard time understanding how to practice that, myself.

>>7162468
I'm trying to nail down the shadows but something feels off about them, specially in the boobs, what I'm doing wrong?

>>7170230
Yes, I see the forms in my head before I put pen to paper. I still have a ways to go myself but It's taken a lot of mileage of drawing tons of filled sketch book pages of playing around with constructed shapes. I think the misnomer is using construction to get from Point A to Point B. When it's easier to just get so comfortable seeing those things in your head you can skip most of those in between steps.

If you go and watch some old KJG videos, he says, "I wish you could see the lines I'm seeing" He sees the lines in his head but you didn't see the 20 years prior of him practicing those lines to get to that point.

>>7170237
Looks like the torso is mixing perspectives. Her shoulders suggest a slightly tilted front-facing view, but her hips and breasts suggest her torso is far more twisted to her right.

>>7170237
i suggest you catbox that pic
i like it tho

>>7170243
>but you didn't see the 20 years prior of him practicing those lines to get to that point.
The most important bit, I feel. A lot of people miss this about art, or any skill, really. For every thing produced of worth, there are hundreds if not thousands if not tens of thousands of hours put into it.

>>7170237
I think it's because you don't have any dark, hard shadows, so it comes off a bit flat. there should be much darker areas in places completely blocked off from the light sources direction

>>7170245
Sorry, I forgot the no NSFW rule

Hi, new to board; trying my hardest to improve in fur. Would like some opinions and where to start looking for books/ methods and such

>>7170291
blog please

>>7170250
The best anon here got there in less than three years. Time investment is irrelevant to talent

The sketchbook anon is great at form but the plugged details and faces are awkward as hell

>>7170320
>Time investment is irrelevant to talent
Stupidest thing I've ever read.

>>7170311
Sure buddy

Bluesky:
https://bsky.app/profile/doodlehog.bsky.social

Twitter:
https://x.com/Just_Hog

but I'm not posting a lot on twitter, i'm just taking this more like a hobby. I'll try to be active here tho.

>>7170204
What do you mean by "drawing system" ?

>>7170320
>best anon here
Who? I wanna see their art

>>7170291
>>7170331
Cute pig.
A for fur, it depends. I don't think your style would work with something ultra-realistic, and for more cartoony for it's really just a matter of building up texture on top of well-defined forms. What sort of style do you want to go for?

>>7170341
Me, obvs. :^)

>>7170346
N-no anon it's me, right?

>>7170347
Of course.
You are me, after all, and we're the best.

>>7170243
Playing around with constructed shapes ?

>>7170346
>What sort of style do you want to go for?
I took inspiration from CyanCapsule mostly, really admire the rendering he does.

For style i think the Carles Dalmau style is one of my favourites

>>7170320
I'd argue time investment is pretty relevant to getting to even the baseline level of "making it", but it depends on the speed at which someone can make observations about their work and make incremental improvements, how much they study and whether or not if they know how to efficiently funnel that knowledge into their drawing.
KJG's mastery was a result of a lifetime of dedicated pursuit. Art is a continuous, never-ending process of learning

>>7170383
*KGJ, fug

>>7169564
>>7169686
I use construction and underdrawing though. Left is just the sketch layer for the right. Good stylistic symbol drawing is just imposing cool abstractions and shape language and lines on top of the 3d anatomy you've studied and laid out. If you want to make anything that has 3 dimensions, including stylized kemono/anthro, you should at least study how they turn in space.

>>7169148
I hope this isn’t true I fucking love boxes

>>7170516
Anon you can do whatever you want to do to make art. That's the real secret. If boxes help you, I wish you all the boxes you could ever imagine.

>>7170250
Exactly, I can't be angry towards myself or feel inadequate. I didn't put in the time to earn the right to complain.

>>7170320
Some people have more of a natural ability then others, but they still put in the time. They're either drawing more then you or putting in way more work. I feel as though this idea comes from inadequacy and at the end of the day it's just an excuse to cope with not putting in enough time.

>>7170338
Like the "loomis" method or the "Reilly" method. These are just weird gimmicks, I've never seen many artists pragmatically use these, or they used them briefly and quickly got past it.

>>7170383
100 percent

>>7170516
Draw those boxes!

>>7170502
I didn't argue against that, you study construction until it becomes very intuitive, then you're not spending so much time doing so much construction. In the same vain as learning anatomy, you learn it to know what to leave out. I feel knowing what to NOT show is almost as important as what to show.

>>7170542
>I didn't put in the time to earn the right to complain.
No, that's not the point I was trying to make. You absolutely have a right to complain, or rather, to vent. Art is a hard process that can feel very difficult, and often hopeless, but it never is if you're willing to put in the work, and you're going to have to put in a LOT of work. The more cognizant you can be of the lows, the better you can weather them and aim for the highs.
Learning to deal with frustration and anger in a healthy manner (because those are all things we feel, and shouldn't feel bad for feeling) is just as important a skill to learn as drawing itself, and it, too, takes a lifetime of learning.

Just be easy on yourselves, anons.

>>7170552
Art, especially drawing, is a selfish act. We're trying to either earn reputation, a living, or likes from randomers on a social media platform. With any skill there comes lows and disappointments. A lot of the information is esoteric and very cryptic. However there are things surrounding the abstract that can be taught pretty straightforward (Anatomy, perspective)

Even still there are no guarantees for success, there is more to art then just skill and tying your personality or happiness to your ability to do art is not a good mindset. This advice goes for everyone doing art esp INT.

Make art for yourself, express yourself with the skills you possess right now. Enjoy the act and joy of being able to create. The dopamine you receive will make you naturally more curious, more receptive and certainly better over time.

>>7170502
Oh thank god and thank you.
Holy fuck your studies are beautiful. I still can’t believe you’re white. Even the best kemomangaka can’t do this.
My heart bleeds for soulful faces and exaggerated forearms on sleek, soft shaded linework. Every atom of it is perfect

>>7170615
>I still can’t believe you’re white.
Kek.

>>7170858
I had some guy assuming me to be from spain for no other reason than him liking the gardevoir I drew once. And on his profile he was ranting about how "Latinx" -people or whatever are just generally better at art and that it is senseless for him to draw because he will never be as good. Apparently these people are a thing.

>>7165437
What if I told you the character designer for Teen Titans was asian

>>7165627
Cause westoids except for Italians are soulless

>>7169441
>my reaction to this information

New thread: >>7171087

They just discovered blackmail on you.