/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

drew this today

the secret to massive gains is to draw anime girls with big titties

>>7126558
Henloo

>>7126558
i think theres something wrong with my gestures

ill post my work

>>7126581
I think at your stage, the most important thing to practice and perfect is finding the center of parts perspective wise, to not make it look flat. For the over exaggerated, I am asuming it's stylized so not commenting, except for the right arm, which looks broken in that position

Ahahah, to once think that drawing was a skill closely linked to problem-solving, theories, insight: what a fool I was! It's all about visual memory, visual clarity, visual sense; an 'artistic instinct'. In other words, talent. The good artist doesn't think: the images come to him, almost entirely clear, the lines too, just as good melodies come to the good composer or improviser!

Something looks off on her neck to me here, besides that, any critique please?

>>7126613
>It's all about visual memory, visual clarity, visual sense;
True, and literally all are honed by continuous practice. You are just lazy.

I will not contribute to this thread because I do not draw anymore.

>>7126615
Her spine is the biggest problem imo
Should be more to the left

Thread challenge: Draw a really old man

>>7126635

>>7126635
You finally gave them hands... er one...
Now give her another one

>>7126615
It is an attempt, not a fix:]

or will they keep themself apart I dunno :D

>>7126635
>>7126647
Big potential, blog?

>>7126615
I like your attempt at coom, the tits have potential
the neck seems to be too thick tho

>>7126716
Hi, redline anon
Can you take a look at this?

>the usual crappy beg porn
>the usual intards try to redline it
*Yawn*

>the usual no work posted crab

been awhile since ive posted here, but heres a wip

I think I got it :D

These threads are so fucking funny.

>>7126756
I think the part between the ribcage and the hips is too narrow, and the empty space due to the arm interferes with the silhouette a little.
It would be interesting to add variation in the angles of the ribcage, pelvis and head, this adds more dynamism to the pose

>>7126572
NICE GLASSES POINDEXTER HAHAHA

Tried drawing something related to the eclipse.

>>7126816
Thanks booba anon.
Appreciate the feedback.

>>7126703
>Big potential
>draws low effort sameface anime torsos in void for months, only attempts to study anything else once a couple months
>Big potential
kek

> working on a finished piece "i am cooking rn"
> view finished piece the next day "i was NOT cooking"
> spend a week studying the things you failed
> view the piece a week later, "its not too bad actually"

is this a universal experience?

this is stupid :D
>>7126846
most unboring "void torsos" at that. he is great :]

>>7126846
I've noticed that most people in this general only draw the same things for months without really branching out, like the 2 boobas anons, the guy who draws smooth lines girls on grey paper with highlights,the anon who overpaints other people's anime girls and this anon who draws scribble girls

>>7126854
Because girls are great. Name 5 things you drew in a month :)

>>7126858
>Name 5 things you drew in a month :)
They’re too abstract and complex to be described by written language

>>7126859
then show :D

>>7126765

>>7126860
Fried my hard drive the last time I tried to transfer images of my art. Regardless, the experience could never be accurately conveyed with a mere 2D digital representation.

>>7126858
pawell's been drawing the same figgies for years, just saying...

>>7126653
Be patient with me anon
>>7126703
Eridhaaa333
>>7126846
This anon has the mouth full of reason, I'm gonna study loomis once and for all >:(

>>7126863
You'll do anything but pyw

>>7126863
In other words, you are a resident nodraw :/

KYS :P

>>7126854
They found a set of appealing symbol the like and now they are afraid to draw anything but. They'll cope and rationalise it, but they are scared shitless of leaving comfort zone and producing a drawing they won't like.
They blocked themselves out of any improvement.

day 63

I have now developed a passion for drawing for some reason I thought it was a hobby but now I understand why it means to be an artist

>>7126846
Pyw then

>>7126887
sadly this is the only time I'll get to draw tho as I have work. I'm saving up for a big backpack so I could sketch and draw in the bus

I wonder if doing this sort of thing, copying photos, is an effective way of learning?
Is it better to try to make it as nice as possible, or rather do more uglier ones?
Should I grind eyes, then noses, then mouths, then hair, then faces etc until I can draw any animu girl I want?

>>7126898
um I'm a beginner but people have sent this in this thread so try this.

>>7126898
You should reference, but try to not symbol draw. Eyes are the first thing to fall to symbol drawing
Tell you what
Try practicing drawing eyes upside down, then flip it upside down.

Not strictly a drawing question, but drawing's my latest interest so might as well ask here.
Where do you get the drive to aspire to do something, and to keep going even as you fail over and over again? I was mostly content just working a job and consuming media in my free time but living like this feels increasingly more and more empty. Is it something that must be inherently present (like the "talent" thing, I think that's what it really means), or can it be built up from nothing (and if so, how)? I think one of the biggest obstacles for me is not really having a clear goal in mind, there's no story I absolutely have to tell or anything else I would absolutely have to share with the world. I just want to draw some fan art or whatever both just for myself and to share with like-minded people on the internet. It doesn't get any more vague than that, probably.

>>7126861

>>7126907
Whatever some might say, drawing is CONTROL. Controlling where your hand goes, making it go where your mind wants it to go. It also includes knowledge, knowing where it should go.

Drawing is not that different from calligraphy, knowing the letters is the knowledge part, and controlling where the lines go is the control part. It's literally you improving your cognitive skills and psychomotor ability.
Plus, as you said, fun. But people completely ignore the implications of perfecting you basically mocing your hand and fingers in compliance with the brain.

>>7126907
>keep going even as you fail over and over again?
It kind of depends on how you define the fail state :/

>>7126909
I have no idea how this is relevant, but thank you for your input.
>>7126915
Let me expand a bit then: fail to produce a drawing (or anything else if we're talking other hobbies) of acceptable quality over and over.

>>7126922
>Doing the equivalent of learning how to grasp an object
>"I have no idea how this is relevant"

>>7126907
You should have a "checkpoint" set goal
>>7126922
You shouldn't strive to go the last stair instantly. Post your work so I can have a better idea

>>7126854
Low ints cling to /beg/ for confidence boosts and quick dopamine bursts. They don't want to leave comfort zone, because then their work may look like run-of-the-mill beg.
I have much more respect for Pawell, even though his art is ugly and unappealing, he's always studying and learning something new. On the other hand there's anime torso in void #624 gang, who draw the same shit over and over again with no improvement whatsoever for months and months on end.

>>7126907
Failing over and ovrr has kept me from making meaningful progress even though i've been interested in the craft for yesrs.
It's just that any time i sit down to draw the output is just shit and i don't want to repeat it so i just give up

>>7126937
He's been drawing useful redlines and giving good advices, and evidently draws appealing things
What the fuck had this pawell nigger done other than prove he's the next chrischan?? His "advice" is even worthless

>>7126854
my personal excuse is i've mostly been drawing geometrics and non-anime girls for 2 months and i'm still shit at them, trying to branch out into animals or costumes or architecture whilst still being a beg feels like it'd only slow me down
>>7126937
as much as i hate anime girl torso in void gang
>he's always studying and learning
i still think he's an int or something e-rping a gigabeg to get off, but even if you don't believe that whatever he's doing definitely isn't learning

How do I draw better, more appealing backgrounds?

Draw this.

>>7126989
well what scene are you trying to put the character in? just google some reference like a cafe, a dormitory or i dunno a castle then sketch out something completely from reference and then draw the character in, most people who draw backgrounds from "imagination" do so by combining references or just draw something very simple

>>7126999
>>7126989
also to add most of the appeal of background is related to the overall composition of the image.

>>7126989
Please have the fruitseller milf get fucked by a rich milf-chasing adventurer

>>7126581
I dated a girl once who used Henloo as a greting and she also drew

>>7126925
>a "checkpoint" set goal
I've been thinking in that direction, but I'm still struggling to define it as clear, actionable and achievable.
>You shouldn't strive to go the last stair instantly
While I do agree, it's hard to do so with creative endeavors. It's not like you can just set a lower standard, like setting a lower weight at the gym.
>Post your work
I don't have any finished work, I think this is the last sketch I've started. It's some extreme pre-beg stuff, so it won't tell you anything about me you don't know already.

>>7127010
>It's some extreme pre-beg stuff,
Uh not really. It actually doesn't look that bad.
I think you should focus on simpler stuff for now.
What is something you like to draw fanart for?

>>7127010
Crabs are hard dude
Also, it doesnt look that bad, just start slowly,

>>7127010
How do people get so fucking good fuck.
I'm still stuck on symbol face kinsergarten lvl bullshit i should genuinely fucking rope holy shit .

>>7127027
pyw

>>7127028
None because i barely draw.
I mean i have this thing but it's a literal 20min nothinburger and i havent done ANYTHING since last week

>>7127027
>How do people get so fucking good fuck
>None because i barely draw.
rope yourself
draw more
in that order

>>7127032
>>7127010

Why do so many begs go straight for the realism style? It will never look good unless you know perspective, rendering and anatomy well.

>>7127037
I wasnt going for a style. I don't know any fucking styles brother.
This is just how i draw. I copy the lines i see as accurately as i can. That's it. I can't do it in any other way but it isn't a deliberate attempt at a "style"

>>7127033
I would but rope has such a high percentage of survivors it's kinda scary.
As to drawing more: I wish i could. I'm a lazy retard slob and i do nothing despite having easily 10+ hours of free time st any given day

>>7127042
Then you need to hone on inherent drawing skills. Lightly sketch some simple sketch like left, and then over it draw whatever you feel like, any simple style, but use imagination, don't look at anything.

>>7127046
Alrightz i'll go add that to the to-do list.
I think i should focus on the technical ability first though because it's non-existent so far

You know is it okay to draw 4 times a week instead of everyday? I don't wanna burn out, I saw a progress thread and someone's been drawing for like 4 years but they had a burnout and it didn't look like they were drawing for 4 years

>>7127061
I don't think you need to stop drawing. Its just that in days when you dont feel like it, draw fun or dumb little stuff, like those schoolbook doodles

>>7127015
>It actually doesn't look that bad
Thanks! Wish I could see it in the same light. Though the more time passes between drawing it and looking at it, the better it's starting to seem.
>focus on simpler stuff
I've been drawing simple shapes for a while, if that's what you mean. Maybe I've skipped a few steps going from boxes and cylinders straight for marine life, but this is the simplest subject that is still at least somewhat interesting to me.
>What is something you like to draw fanart for?
Video games, mostly. But drawing game characters in any sort of action scenes is a pipe dream for now.
>>7127019
>Crabs are hard
Their shells? You mean their shells, right?
>it doesnt look that bad
Thanks!
>just start slowly
Speaking of going slowly, I feel like I'm drawing way slower than I probably should. Most of that time is spent on measuring - I've figured out a pretty neat (or so I think) system to translate landmark points' relative positions onto the page and build the shapes using those points, but it takes ages to mark everything.
>>7127027
>How do people get so fucking good fuck.
If you ever find out, do tell me as well. If it makes it any better, I think I suck, so your stuff is probably way better than you give yourself credit for.
>>7127032
Looks like I was right. Especially for 20 minutes that's pretty nice, my crab took me over an hour.
>>7127037
It's not that I intentionally go for realism specifically, I do want to go for something a lot more cartoony and simplistic eventually. But before I start to simplify and stylize, I should learn how to draw what I see first. At least that's what everyone seems to be saying.

>>7127061
you need to induce schizophrenia and pathological OCD to make it as an artist, i'm sorry
if you're not scribbling in blood on your own skin in lieu of any other medium you've already lost

Just getting back into non-3d art, struggling a bit

>>7126852
yes

I feel like I suddenly forgot how to draw, went from int to like low-beg
Did anyone ever have that happen to them?

>>7127107
you could be burnt out. how often are you drawing?

>>7127107
same happened to me but i've just realized that if it did, i never got out of pre/beg/ in the first place

>>7127110
daily

>>7127113
its probably burn out then. you should take a couple days off and come back to it and see how you feel. you wont lose any serious progress by taking a short break.

>>7127114
>you wont lose any serious progress by taking a short break
Unless that short break somehow turns into a very long break (that can happen)

I feel like something is wrong with the eyes but can't pinpoint. And for the hair, how do I make those detailing strands minimal but believable?

never getting out of pre/beg/

>>7127006
Literally me (i am a man)

>>7127122
Hair is fine but for eyes the trick is to not use a uniform line. Try making it the too lid thicker and the bottom very thin.
Also starting with a whole circle and drawing the lids over it can help.

>>7127145
I think i'll need more practice on the symmetry. To add salt to the wound I am using a mouse because I only learned recently that you need a pen tablet to draw digitallly and don't know where to get one

>>7127160
>inb4 e-bay

I am a third worldcel. Plus it's gonna be hard to find good tablets in local electronics store, i blame china for plaguing us with cheaply made counterfeits for everything.

>>7127122
I think you just need to watch out where you place the features, like the eyes seem to be where the eyebrows are supposed to be?

>>7127162
Anon you made him look like he has downs syndrome

>>7127163
it took me like 2 seconds on paint what did you expect? i do think its an improvement tho
How would you do it?

>>7127165
Looking at it again I think it was a good decision to bring the eyes lower. Maybe a little less lower than how much you did. Thanks anon.

>>7127160
Ya that makes things harder. I used to to only have a mouse as well and I would go back over my lines with a soft eraser to get some weight variations.

Finally i think it's finished

>>7127174
maybe, i mostly draw girls, either way it was too high
>>7127160
pencil and paper is all you need

To draw for today
>Booba
>Hand
>Still life with 2 objects
I should be able to do everything but the tit(i have never seen any. Pls help me out art hoe anons)

>>7127178
>homosuck
dear lord now there's something i didn't expect to see ever again

>>7127125
you n me both bro

>>7127207
>>7127125
Sorry guys, you've already left all pre/beg/s in the dust far, far behind.

Can I get some feedback on my style and coloring?
I try to keep a slight resemblance to Dragon Ball while also trying to find my own style.

>>7127213

>>7127186
>pencil and paper is all you need.

I know sirs. I wanted to do digital art because I wanna color and can't afford 500 copic markers.

>>7127214

>>7127213
>>7127214
>>7127216
These are my main OCs

>>7127186
>I mostly draw girls
>Not having adhd and ocd and trying to master every aspect of art

NGMI

>>7127218
Wonderful Anon. These are giving me 90s thundercats vibes.

>>7127220
Oh I actually loved thundercats as a kid, but I didn't have that in mind when I made these.
I kinda see it tho.

This pic is some of the art I did during 2023, some personal some commissions.

>>7127125
she'd be getting my dick in her mouth tho dats fo sho

>>7127222
I kneel at your above average art int chad.

>>7126816
MUH DYNAMISM..seriously growing tired of this concept being thrown around, its almost a buzzword now. I agree with middle though, since 1 doesnt make quite a lot of sense position wise, unless she has chimp arms that allow her to reach all the way down to the pussy, but you lost me with the dynamism thing, whats even the goal with it? we all end up with birdseye/worms eye, 2-3 point perspective coomer art for ..what exactly? flexing your status as an art scholar?

AND no, Im not posting my hard earned gains for your redlining art fetish, or for any of these undeserving crabs to look at. So in b4 PYW, no art crab calling, and all that jazz, get this through your thick skulls nimwits, you do not share your art with the filth users that populate /ic/..ever, you wouldnt share your bank account details with some bum off the street, now would you?

Got that? well then fuck off back to your scrolling, I hope you spontaneously combust and die screaming.

>>7127219
yo wtf y this shit so relatable I dead ass wanna draw like everything I see so dats y im doing those observation books

These threads are basically the blind leading the blind. Bye fuckers

If I want a paper texture to my drawing's background it's as easy as just putting a high quality PNG in the backround right?

>>7127188
Oh you're there. I posted my still life on the previous thread, it's the 2 cat decorations featured in the OP >>7126508 (thanks thread creating anon).

>>7127230
Thank you, I still see myself as /beg/ tho, by the end of 2023 I saw that my coloring style was a bit too ''something'' I don't know what it was but was too much, so I've been trying to simplify the coloring, my 4 OCs I posted are some of the first attempts at it and here is another one.

>>7127222
Is that ultimate muscle
Based

>>7127245
Actually it's Kinnikuman, this was for a redraw challenge.

>>7127236
see you tomorrow

>>7127249
This was the original

>>7127243
Ok I took a closer look and I think you MIGHT have skipped some steps on anatomy in your art. That bicep is kinda off. When drawing ripped characters, accurate musculature is so damn important.

>>7127257
It looks like balloon right? Yeah I got issues with a lot of anatomy stuff, I think it's because I grew up drawing Dragon Ball stuff.

>>7127259
Your watermark placement is very obnoxious

>>7127261
It's all over the place because I haven't found a way to make it look good.

I need to improve my Caligraphy asap.
Any resources on that?

>>7127263
BOOM
1000x times less obnoxious
Doesn't make you look extremely insecure about your "art being stolen"

>>7126901
>Eyes are the first thing to fall to symbol drawing
Yeah I've practicing and no matter what they still look off.

>>7127281
copy other artists and try to remember how they do things

>>7126558

I have decent line control doing straights but not curves. back to basics again.

How the hell do you study using a book, like if I was trying to learn anatomy, should you try to draw what is on every page, not like mindless copying but while trying to understand it?

>>7127345
yeah you just copy what's in the book and try to figure out the thought process behind it

does anyone else get mad or depressed when they notice a mistake in their older work?

Is there a program that lets me pose a 3D model easily just for reference use? Just mainly interested what body parts/poses look in different perspectives

>>7127340
>doing straights
hell yeah bro, me too, high five!

The more i try to fix it the muddier it gets.

Is it worth pursuing art if this is the best i cna output?
It's p old because i'm lazy. Havent drawn in half a year or so.

>>7127410
no

>>7127392
literally the OP of every thread
if this is the extent of your investigative abilities you are not cut out for a productive hobby like drawing

>>7127410
Nah.

>>7127413
:(

>>7127433
yep

>>7127442
Your characters need to have rib cages, obliques and shoulders added to them.

>>7127453
Fair enough.
I can't remember that damn anatomy to save my life.

>>7127216
>>7127218
Stats seem unbalanced

>>7127456
https://www.scott-eaton.com/outgoing/books/George-Bridgman-Constructive-Anatomy.pdf

>>7127410
You'd need to be really disciplined with training to compete with AI.

>>7127459
Thanks!

>>7127460
I don't really wish to compete with the bots.
I'd just like to get slightly good and make cool images.
I tried AI but it's kind of a garbage for anything that's not a generic anime waifu

I feel like I have been slacking in defining figures. I drew up a fat ass hoss looming over a smaller chubby cow. Is there any way I can get back up again?

>>7127410
If you like drawing, then it is.

could you guys critique this figure drawing of mine? ill dump the reference below. 120s of drawing

https://quickposes.com/assets/poses/d0d8b0a5a0ff4aa32456358076b3f511.jpg

>>7127486
How do i know if i like it or not.
I'm not really good at introspection and such.

>>7127493
>How do i know if i like it or not.
you dont, dont draw.

>>7127493
There's no way a mf needs that much spoon-feeding. Maybe the anons that told you "no" are right.

>>7127490
You need to chill, measure (observe) more, don't use more lines than necessary.
Read Keys to drawing.

>>7127486
What if I like drawing itself but get too frustrated at results not meeting my expectations?

Howie changed tactics, anons.

>>7127509
>Maybe the anons that told you "no" are right
:(
Sorry

>>7127508
I think i do. Not sure though.
I'd like to give it a go again at least.

I doodled a cat today
I also don't know how to gitgud at drawing

>>7127475
There's a book about fat people in the Morpho collection that actually covers the morbidly obese instead of stopping at slightly chubby women, that might be what you want.

>>7127523
same, im being bashful on a few drawthreads but i'm actually forcing myself to try. first day has to lead to improvement right?

i'll post what i am trying hopefully roots you on

>>7126604
Thanks for the feedback, ill keep the center thing in mind
And yeah the hand was pretty broken lol

>>7127474
If you don't have lots of discipline give up. I've been drawing off and on for years without discipline and have nothing to show.

>>7127549
Question
Not that anon bht
Does discipline count if every day i draw some sketches but not like studies or learn something new
I suffer from that i am willing to draw but too lazy to learn other stuff

Sketched Cassie from Bounty Hamster for the /co/ thread. She's not impressed with my artistic skills.

>>7127552
*But
Random co shitpost i did today

>>7127530
I need to review that. But I am more or less talking about animal heads. Thanks anyways

back to morphos mostly today, the shoulder section feels like he half-assed it and there's barely anything useful to learn in it so i skimmed it as well, hopefully it's just one bad chapter and the rest of the book is good still
tried copying BlueTurtle's animation style for a couple of faces too, if i ever try a web comic or anything i'd want it to be in that style i think
i wish i had an art friend so i could leave these "should i start drawing if i don't like to draw" shitpost threads

>>7127549
I could have it if i really seeply wanted to.
I could do it.
Shouldn i, though ...
Hmgnmmm

>>7126908

>>7126937
>he's always studying and learning something new.
Should have started with this so others could've disregarded your post sooner.

>>7127593
Very cute

>>7127522
Anon, im the first replier. I think that you actually like to draw but there is something in your process or approach to art ("mindset") that is entering in conflict with you. At least it was like that for me
There is anything bothering you when you're drawing?

In my case, i was stucked in a confort zone and afraid to try new things. Two factors changed this:
1) I met IC's Big Sticky in general and also read a page that talked about my own situation (stucked in anatomy studies without progressing)
2) The most important: i learned by talking to my teachers what partial success is: basically, embrace the attempt even if the result doesn't come out the way you desire. You are learning more and more just by practicing and, after that, reflecting, which ultimately results in learning. If you don't try new things you'll remain at the same place

Sorry for sharing too much personal talk here. Well, there is anything bothering you? I hope being able to help you

>>7127513
Know that i think, i agree with you. I've just started to read Color and Light today. I'll read that one as soons as i finish the current book

>>7127593
i really like this anon.

>>7127612
>There is anything bothering you when you're drawing
Pretty much just confidence issues and a huge dislike for bad output.

It sucks to fail at something you care about. Even moreso when it's anything creative because it's like the worth of your soul is being weighed since most of what you draw will be at some level personal.
It also feels bad to realize how much time i've wasted and how much i continue to waste each day. It just never feels like "the right moment"
Thanks for sharing your experience though, it is pretty synonymous so i'm glad you managed to get past all that.

Tldr. I'm just being a little bitch about it.

First time here. Haven’t drawn in like 10 years. Have a long way to go.

>>7127629
Cool. Keep having fun challenging yourself. Getting better at drawing is kind of like an rpg. But the rewards are tangible and respectable rather than meaningless ephemera.

>>7127629
Welcome.
Read keys to drawing.

>>7126558
Any tutorials or guides on how to paint stuff that looks like this?

>>7126558
>Deviantart recommended Pawell 2nd time
I am truely NGMI.

Sup beg, today i did "extreme" perspective. It looks beg.

>>7127580
why is it so blue? are you drawing in nightclub with the neon black lamps?
>>7127544
damn those child birthing hips
>>7127530
very cool. but what is she eating? her bottom swimsuit piece?
>>7127523
start with keys to drawing
>>7127475
you are held back by lack of anatomy: you wont learn it by imagination. USE REFERENCES
>>7127401
it looks promising
>>7127383
instead of depresso you should feel good that you leveled up since then so you can notice it
>>7127290
very nice
>>7127267
archive.org/details/letteringforscho00stee
archive.org/details/manuscriptwritin00educ
>>7127259
>>7127213
you made the black too dark. typically anons have issues with using only light and middle values, but you overdid it with the dark ones. yandex black cat and see how even black fur is never pure dark. otherwise there is nothing to crab, style is purely subjective
>>7127237
for decent results you want to use brushes which have built-in texture or app which allows you to set up canvas texture before start. But if you dont care it will look like ass, then just paper.jpg to grayscale and set its layer to multiply or similar
>>7127181
nice thot
>>7127178
she has broken spine
>>7126907
>where do you get the drive
it is called faustian spirit. most white and yellow people have it and by the looks of it, yours is finally awakening inside of you
>>7126898
drawing from reference is excellent practice for begs. but after a while you no longer struggle with it and thats when you have to level up. more details in keys to drawing
>>7126818
contrast too low, the piece is invisible on average displays
>>7126882
this is the most important post in this thread, sadly anons will not read it
>>7127672
my latest DA piece got like 25 likes, either i am getting ecred or DA is dying and i am last user who posts there

>>7127672
>see less like this

>>7127523
well you have a better understanding of perspective than some around here

>>7127669
You need to be able to draw like this fist.

link's pose is me each morning. Not much to say about this drawing, but i am enjoying sitting down and (trying) to draw each which is good. Hopefully i can keep this up so I can better

>>7127672
>>7127688
>25 likes
The site is filled to the brim with AI "artists" peddling their slops for 1-3 $ a pop. It's dead.

>>7127688
That kinda was the point tho, to have it barely visible as an extreme menace hidden on the eclipse.

>>7127726
Fuck. Shit. God damnit.

How do I make myself enjoy drawing?

>>7127792
You need people to give you attention for it.

>>7126898
If you want to draw anime girls then copy anime faces instead of realistic ones. The most important thing about realistic heads for an anime artist is the structure, not individual features, but you’re probably not ready for that yet if you’re drawing just eyes so copy anime faces instead.

>>7127799
This sounds like a way to become hardcapped artists #32345.

Why do so many people seem to dislike how Koreans draw anime characters?

I'm too weak and scared to draw hair or shade

is alright to post the same art between different generals?

>>7127824
Yes queen.

>>7127288
Honestly I'm slowly moving my learning method towards that. I'm having more fun copying anime girls and figuring out my mistakes through that then using KtD.

One question, does sucking at math and cooking will hamper or be counterproductive in my artistic skills?
I can't prove it but I guess there's a strong correlation between not being good at maths and cooking and being an eternal permaprebeg

>>7127831
other thread I'm in had mixed advice on tracing. but I think i'll try it sometime

I'll upload tomorrow cuties.

>>7127834
Nah I'm not tracing them, I'm drawing them from reference.

>>7127841
oh, nevermind I misunderstood heh

Thanks to the anons who helped me yesterday, I think I've managed to draw a cuter face, although she looks slightly anxious to me now. I can't quite tell what magic is lost from anon's picture on the right to my second attempt, although it was only posted in quite low res.
Am I messing it up by showing both rows of teeth? Would it be better to have the inside of the mouth just all one colour?
I think ultimately I'm biting off more than I can chew for my skill level, but I've committed to finishing this.

>>7127854
which vtuber is that?

>>7127857
It's Matoi Miia. I especially like her unusual eye colouration.
I just know I'm gonna spend another two hours tomorrow redrawing that mouth, this is awful

>>7127688
>Broken spine
Ok, does someone have ability to redline to see how should it look corrected
I've been fighting that spine but i still broke it in the end

>>7127882
I will not be doing the redline and do not know if it will help, but I will draw my understanding of how it works and what the issue is. :/

i had fun making this

i don't have time to draw on the weekdays. How do I make the most of 1 hour? I see e058 doodling for 10 hours and it makes me seethe so bad.

>>7127912
Don't wanna make it come across as some like demand
only asked if someone could/ wanted so i can go and redo drawing with the ref

What i'm getting is the pelvis can rotate only in limited angles?
I assume the red, yellow and red is how far is the rotation possible where red is maximum

>>7127964
Tried applying it by redlining it myself instead

>>7127178
>>7127964
>>7127966
The spine doesn't look broken to me. I just think the perspective is weird. This should make her fit into environment better

>Don't wanna make it come across as some like demand
No, I mean I can't - I can provide basic idea but it is too hard for me to advise on how to implement it.

Friendly reminder you don't need actual skill to "make it"

>>7127974
>>7127973
Holy shit thank you both either ways
>I mean i can't
Alright still thank you
I will later on do the drawing again and try to fix it using both. I just feel bad and obligated to let others efforts go to waste and also not make my drawings best i can
To this first anon who redlined this was the ref i used
I think i misstook it and made bend too much

>>7127979
im workin on it, just trying to get comfortable with the software at the moment

>>7127979
why do you keep posting this niggas art

>>7127983
to make a point

>>7127984
I deliberately avoid commissions and deleted X after reaching 3000 followers because I noticed i was stagnating. I don't care about "making it" with X likes, I care about making it by improving.

>>7127989
When?

>>7127992
About a year ago

>>7127994
did I ask

This is Howie's cousin, Dewey.
Dewey isn't totally certain, but he tries his best anyway.
Dewey does not fear failure, because he knows failure is an opportunity to grow.
Be like Dewey.

>>7127973
If it wasn't broken, why did you rotated ass away?:]

>>7127998
What a charming fellow

Hands are hard.

>>7128038
that's really nicely done anon

>>7128039
Thanks. Drawing this without any experience with anatomy was a pain for me.

>>7127998
You don't understand my pain Dewy. You don't get how hard it is

pewpew hallucination

>>7128110
Pay more attention to the ribcage, torso in general isn't angled correctly, measure the arms (her right especially) and legs again.

Stop doing your boring studies and draw something cool

>>7128120
You can't draw anything cool if you don't do your studies first, dummy.

>>7128121
Yes you can, you're just too self-serious

>>7127998
Make his chin bigger

>>7127810
Personally I'm just sick of the generic manhwa/webtoon art style. That weirdly glossy semi-realism. I appreciate that it tries to be a little more detailed than the average anime art, but more often than not, it goes about it in the completely wrong way. Blurry as hell.

That, and overexposure. Never underestimate how much vitriol that can cause.

>>7127980
Holy shit my soul was drained out just from this sketch how about now redlinenons?

>>7128182
If you have a phone camera you should try doing that pose in real life. At most you'd see her left side boob if you can see her butt, she can't turn that much, just like in the original drawing.

>>7128197
Ah thank you
I tried and based on pose i did irl i tried adjusting it

Where do you guys find your figure drawing references? Is there any place other than line of action?

:/

>>7127980
Mmmmm choco grill...

Draw big feet lady... unless you're scared

>be /beg/ for years
>extremely slow progress because I'm a shit teacher and learner
>got burnt out a few times
>finally get down to drawing nightly for 2 hours
>refer to my drawing time as unga bunga time
>enjoy drawing like never before
I still notice some good progress from my past drawings but I have some time before I leave /beg/ hell.

I’m still not drawing.

>>7128263

>>7128263
NIce try! no free coom for you.

>>7128305
No! You've seen through my ruse! <saves pic>

can you get good at observing simply by just doing it or am I missing something

>>7128263
>>7128305
faggots

>>7128341

>>7128341

>>7128371
make his hands bigger and give him longer fingers and you'll get peak yaoi protagonist physique

>>7128375
I suggest Korean Instagram pages for studying male anatomy. Very clear muscle groups and taseful poses.
Ex:
/kimkisung/

For the past few days I've been struggling to keep motivated with drawing. I feel tired and have been prone to headaches lately, I think it's just due to the weather getting more humid lately which I struggle to adjust to.

I did these Loomis head practice but I couldn't be arsed to spend much time on them and I was too tired to really learn how to do detailed faces, so they look awful.

Should I take a break for a few days? I really hate to not draw but I don't think I can do much for a few days until I get out of this funk. I can do basic motor skill practice stuff but more complex stuff I don't have it in me to really do at the moment.

>>7126558
Should i kill myself?

>>7128454
You have the opposite problem I have, can't draw heads but can at least draw bodies

Anybody have any good ideas on how to make the contrast between the hair skin and light pink clothing contrast and pop better. Looking at the image after finishing it I find it difficult/tiring to look at these areas and see the details within them. I guess doing dark outlines would work to an extent, but the pixel size here makes any lines really huge.

Any other comments or critiques are welcome.

>>7128454

>>7128463
that is not a well-drawn head, seek help

Do drawings of fried eggs that aren’t sunny side up exist? Like actually.

>>7128470
Like "over easy eggs"?

>>7128474
Yeah. I was hoping to find a BW image to see how to best show the blackened bits, cause I find it hard to transfer that from a photo to drawing, but it seems like practically no drawing of that kind exists.

>>7128467
I didn't say it was well drawn

>>7128413
copy art, not photos. seriously.

Spend more time on your copies. Like, 60 minutes for a portrait is very short.

Some v. quick sketches from reference photos after not drawing properly for 6 months. I understand they aren't great but trying to work on the anatomy and stuff. Critique welcomed

Is it possible to improve drawing if I do it every day but I don't enjoy doing it? I really want to draw well but I don't like it

>>7128540
yes of course retard, contrary to a popular belief

>>7128541
Thank God and thank you
Ok now I'm off to go practice

>>7128375
you dont know shit about yaoi, yaoi protagonists are string beans
>>7128389
this guys torso shape doesnt fit his body... but if he were less muscular he would look completely natural
It seems like extreme muscularity is unflattering for most people

>>7128540
>>7128545
you will like it the better you get

>>7126572
sovl

>>7128551
Well I do like when I make something and it doesn't look like ass

>>7128540
>Is it possible to improve drawing if I do it every day but I don't enjoy doing it?
no

>>7128541
>>7128551
>>7128562
why would you respond to him, what drives you people to feed this fucking retard every single day

>>7128564
when people ask for permission to draw on /ic/ i always tell them no

>>7128564
I don't post some whiney shit daily
I just wanted to know because every advice says to enjoy it but I really don't and I don't want to give up just because it's hard

Comfy watercolor practice

>>7128549
Tall people have weird proportion. Loo at Fromsoft boss models.
>extreme muscularity is unflattering for most people
Wrong.

>>7128549
roids alone will do that but you have to remember that in addition to the those he's also been getting the obligatory gook annual plastic surgery since he was a teenager and the picture itself looks edited on-top of that

>>7128586
retarded fitnigger

>>7128586
>Wrong
dont you have enough self-awarness to know that you're a barafag and most people dont share your opinion?

>>7128586
that head looks way too small for the body

>>7127812
cool reference

>>7128389
>I suggest deformed unnatural plastic creatures with 10 gigabytes of filters and photoshop on top of them for studying human male anatomy
Gotcha

>>7128637
you're right subtler forms are easier to learn than exaggerated ones

>>7128564
Bait recognition is worse on this website than it was 15 fucking years ago

>>7128637
Having a good time learning muscle anatomy through layers of adipose tissues and subtle female body landmarks.

>>7128526
Copy art? How come? I thought drawing from life would lead to better art (stylized/realistic etc.)?

>>7128657
Since this poster mentioned this, is it better for a beginner (I am definitely not a uber beginner but more like a level 15 out of 100? If I spend a lot of time on something I can make something half decent) to actually study from other artists rather than real life pictures?

I really dislike it when things like this aren't elaborated, but should I do this rather than study from life?

>>7128466
I'd throw some blue in her skin and reds in her dress, and maybe simplify her face since I'm assuming this image was originally 130*200 or so from the size of the squares you're using.

>>7128668
>level 15 out of 100
pyw

im having trouble making a feminine figure.
I seem to make the shoulders very man like.

Is the key to enjoying art simply copying pictures you like? I'm not good enough to draw the things I actually want to draw, but I've gotten burned out on drawing naked reference models.

For me it's just not drawing, ever.

>>7128836
in that case I'd recommend making the shoulders less man like

>>7128861
how

>>7128865
whenever you are thinking of how to draw the shoulders, do the opposite of whatever you think

>>7128305

how do I improve this?

>>7128891
where do i start

>>7128214
Simply erasing one boob is not going to cut it. You need to rotate the actual ribcage as well.

>>7128875
Very nice rendering on the back muscles and clothing folds!
also nice butt :>

I think when someone complements you on /ic/ its like having your drawing hanged up on the fridge

>>7128916
I always assume when someone compliments me it is in some way bad or back handed

>>7128919
i think it's more like "its shit but i see your effort in these select few places"

If I struggle with some basic shapes turning in my mind, like cylinders and boxes, perspective with them etc, what would be a good practice for that?

>>7128891
It's not that bad aside from the face

>>7128925
...turning them on a page?
Are you retarded? What the fuck else could it be?

>>7128933
someone who can't mentally rotate a box is probably literally retarded yes, spacial reasoning is a major part of every decent IQ test

>>7128940
Or aphantasia.

>>7128933
I don’t know, something less boring and more engaging than grinding rotating shapes. And I could have phrased it better. I don’t have much physical reference in real life, so I was wondering if there was any like easily accessible rotating/lighting program to use as reference. Though, I could just use a typical 3D program and do that I guess.

>>7128949
>aphantasia
a made-up term because in homo world it's considered impolite to call someone literally retarded

>>7128951
You’re on 4chan, in the beginner drawing thread, unable to give real advice. You're not far from a retard yourself.

>>7128949
I've heard that sculpting in stuff like blender helps. It's not that hard to learn but if you're having trouble with drawing consistently it might be too much of a bump in difficulty.

>>7128959
I might have to try that, at very least I can create shapes and have lighting on them for practice/adding lighting into the perspective practice. My drawing is far enough along that I’m having struggle with how boring it is to go back and grind to really get solid on perspective and rotating shapes. I was one of the dumbasses that didn’t stick with the fundamentals and I’ve kind of hit a wall with that.

>>7128952
exactly the kind of retort a literal retard who doesn't know where to start practicing to rotate a cube would think is witty

>>7128962
It’s not witty, it’s just true.

>>7128962
some of them is too bad desu:/

How do i improve my caligraphy quickly?
My penmanship is barely readable and i might fail out of finals just because they won't consider my writing legible.

Any books on that topic?

>Draw like this
>End up becoming a world-famous mangaka
Crabs and howies BTFO'd. No excuse, no nothing.
Get to drawing fags

>>7129003
except someone else drew the world-famous manga and nobody outside nipland cared about the webcomic

>>7128875
GMI

>>7129007
>except someone else drew the world-famous manga
Wouldn't have happened without the webcomic.
The author went on to illustrate and write Mob Psycho all by himself too.
Crab off, nigger.

>>7129012
Alright nevermind i downloaded the preview and as such lose the argument automatically.

>>7129013
thank you for your concession

>>7129010
why not just MI?

>>7128912
the butt was kinda scribbled on but youre the second person i showed it to that said that

>>7126762
Fine have the Anya I drew earlier.
I made her eyes too small.

>>7128110

pawelcore

>>7126558
This is my third sketch where I copied the reference image using a grid (not captured by Krita's recording docker for some reason) instead of tracing.

I think I can copy just about anything with this method, but I don't understand why copying is necessary for digital art.

What are the pros and cons of copying vs tracing in digital art? They both achieve the same result, but copying just takes longer than tracing.

Sup beg, its all beg.

>>7129077
you learn absolutely nothing if you trace
>>7129028
>>7129032
>>7128891
>>7128454
>>7128413
https://archive.org/details/Keys_to_Drawing
>>7129003
story and SOUL is all you need to make it. appealing art cannot save you if you lack the first two after all
>>7128925
draw them from reference first, then try again without ref?
>>7128575
pro beg tip: when using water colors, NEVER try to fully saturate area with pigment. simply dip the brush there and let the watercolor "magic" to create a pattern as it dries. it gives you free appeal gains. if it doesnt follow the form, just try to add pigments to 1 side to make the form
>>7128466
slap the image into KRITA and go filter>adjust>levels / color curves and play with it until it pops
>>7128231
literally read the OP
>>7128050
i like it, especially the lasers
>>7127833
instead of drawing and PYWing you ask silly questions. that is nodraw behavior: worse than a permabeg
>>7127810
internet is full of weebs. japan historically HATES korea (and china). so weebs hates korea by association, korea art style included
>>7127741
if your canvas looks like black nothing on 1st glance, nobody will give it 2nd glance. it is your drawers duty to make it look good!

Haven't drawn a full piece in 4 months but having a lot of fun with the process on this one :) Feels good to finally enjoy art again.

Something I've learned over the years is that the only reliable way to get over art block is to leave it and block all thoughts of art from your mind. Eventually the creativity will run back to you.

I got side tracked with adding accessories and still haven't done the flats for the left side yet. I really want to exaggerate the cluttered raver aesthetic since I love rave fashion and history. Hopefully by the end I wont get lazy and will actually end up filling the blank purple space with things.

I don't know what to draw

trying out opentoonz for the first time

>>7129126
>https://archive.org/details/Keys_to_Drawing
Legit question do you have any other books to recommend? Like, maybe something for figure drawing?

>>7129077
You won’t learn how to draw from imagination using either method. Grids encourage looking at small areas rather than the full image which is bad. People encourage copying not so you learn to be a xerox machine but so you learn to see more accurately and learn common shapes and the thought processes behind things.

>>7129062
>pawelcore
Nice try zzz

>>7129171
Thanks for letting me know. The grid did help me keep the proportions of the figures in my sketches on point.

At this point, should I just move on to learning how to draw from imagination?

there's definitely improvement here...r-right /beg/?

>>7129281
I like the first the most :D

>>7129309
don't say that...

>>7129313

>>7129313

>>7129313

>>7129171
fwiw copying piecemeal is what's recommended for the upside down igor stravinsky, blocking out is a good idea but if the lines are right the shape is right

>>7129242
A grid is a crutch but as a total beginner sometimes you need it. Artists of olde would hold up a string with a weight on the end to make a vertical line to compare to, and using other landmarks like the physical edges of a photograph and making your drawing within a rectangle the same shape are also fair game

>sometimes you need it
never.
To copy something it could help, to learn anything - not.

>>7126626
>>7126657
>>7126692
>>7126716
>>7126795
drawing lewd large boobs is surprisingly difficult

>>7127442
i like the idea, minus the dagger thingy

>>7126692
I appreciate you actually doing better redlines than ReiN, 1010zzz1010. Somehow he kept fucking up the neck in terms of volume and placement which was pretty funny :-)

>>7126853
>OMG GUYS BEWBS I FUCKING LOVE BEWWWBS OMG GUYS

>>7129126
I'd rather be nodraw than permabeg.

>>7127979
What's funny about this is that it's your typical deviant art lesbian capitalist coonsumer aesthetic but with the sovl of high functioning autism everybody else lost when they left high school.

>>7130037
>your typical deviant art lesbian capitalist coonsumer aesthetic
lemme punch this one into google for a moment...

>>7130504
Okay, we have a 'winner'...
https://www.deviantart.com/xxpoverheartsxx/gallery

dammit cant delete